The Shaggs Philosophy of the World REVIEW - Worst Album Ever Made?

[@JonnyInfinite]

This album is as bad as the camera focus in this video..

[@Giggens]

I remember seeing Neutral Milk Hotel one time, and there was an opening band. The whole time, I was like "this sounds like the Shaggs". Turns out it was Dot's solo project, and they closed with Foot Foot. It was mindblowing haha

[@Michael_Sangworth]

Wow it’s giggens!

[@DeadKoby]

The Dot Wiggin Band.......... who finally released Banana Bike...........the Shaggs song that didn't get recorded.

[@weeblewooom]

sounds like a once in a lifetime experience holy shit

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

Honestly, the Shaggs doesn't seem out of place with Neutral Milk Hotel.

[@sashwap]

that’s hilarious! i actually bought dot’s album when it came out, it’s pretty good 👍

[@duchovny2]

Realize they re-recorded a song because they had “messed up”....and the engineer was like, “how could you tell?”.

[@jmdavison62]

The engineer wasn't paying attention. Apart from the drums, which were often in their own world, the songs on _Philosophy of the World_ had obvious structure, and it would have been easy for an attentive engineer to pick out mistakes. The "messed up" anecdote says more about the engineer than it does about the Shaggs. It makes for a fun story, as do the exaggerated stories (which Garrett swallows with no trace of skepticism) of Austin Wiggin's treatment of the Wiggin sisters. The reality is that the Shaggs' first album is fascinating, distinctive, and well worth repeated listening.

[@austinkash]

I un-ironically love that the camera is never focused on you and you can hear wind on your microphone at all times. It’s a raw review of a raw album

[@GlaceonStudios]

I feel like "Who Are Parents" may have been written not in Stockholm Syndrome, but as a subtle "fuck you Dad." Either that or their dad wrote it for them.

[@droptherapy2085]

Yeah it seems like foot foot was kept on the album solely because they didn't care.

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

I keep hearing this, it's a The Shaggs conspiracy theory. This album was not a revenge towards their father. They lack musical talent and they play off beat in a rather twisted and continuous way. There is flow, even if it's off beat, much like it were a baby sister to Trout Mask Replica. To actually think that they went out of their way to play bad and include sarcasm and irony towards their father in spite, is nothing short of ridiculous.

[@curly_wyn]

Yeah, the dad probably wrote all of their dumb lyrics.

[@elc1960]

"...In the words of Sylvia Plath: Fuck you Daddy."

[@amxoppl7589]

I don’t think you know what Stockholm syndrome means it it would mean they actually believe it, which is probably true, and that’s makes it sader.

[@NaniteCity]

'my pal foot foot' has a lot of raw emotion, i'll give it that

[@grizzlystation]

Also check out The Shaggs Own Thing. They recorded it after actually learning how to play and it sounds pretty good!

[@kcbasketballstars]

Featuring a cover of The Carpenters Yesterday Once More

[@DEADRABBIT8]

Also my pal foot foot re-recorded , and it actually sounds like a real song

[@grizzlystation]

@@DEADRABBIT8 I actually bought that record yesterday! Super good

[@DEADRABBIT8]

@@grizzlystation yeah pretty cool to see there progression maybe that's how the first record would've sounded like if the dad bother to actually get them some sort of lessons on how to play

[@DEADRABBIT8]

@@kcbasketballstars an LA band called redd kross does a really great cover of yesterday once more you should check it out

[@claudiasolomon1123]

They wrote a song about a person who was nice to them, then suddenly started being mean to them?? GEE, I WONDER WHO THAT SONG IS ABOUT????

[@goincoconuts1978]

Am I the only one who noticed his ears are bleeding around halfway through the video.

[@harrigourneyfeavord458]

Jesus they ARE !

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

What did you expect?

[@kadenwilcox7625]

i thought it was just me

[@cornsyruptrucker]

No lol

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

I was just watching this video and read your comment. Looked up, and they are! I didn't notice it until now. 😂

[@SlyHikari03]

I love how the drums still stay just as chaotic through the album. Also, there’s a video of the members of Meshuggah head banging to a song from this album. Taken from a meshuggah documentary/recording session clip.

[@seanreynolds1843]

“They’re not restrained by the limitations of a tempo” 🤣 gold

[@EvilSkeptic]

It's important to understand that The Shaggs weren't exposed to music because of their repressive father, so they literally invented the music they played without any musical influences at all. Imagine having to invent music! Some of The Shaggs history in this video is just wrong.

[@curly_wyn]

Doesn’t matter, because what they “invented” is not good at all. The only interesting thing about this album is the fact that it even got produced, released, and attempted to sell in the first place. It’s fucking dreadful. Nothing musical about it.

[@EvilSkeptic]

@@curly_wyn So I'm going to have to assume that you know enough about music to say that there's "nothing musical about it." That's a pretty bold statement, but okay then. Clearly, there is nothing about The Shaggs that floats your boat. And that's fine. Just know that there are some musicians and critics of note who disagree with your total condemnation of The Shaggs.

[@joufaxerxes7966]

@@curly_wyn The critically acclaimed classical music composer Moritz Eggert loves The Shaggs, just like Frank Zappa did. He explained that there's a difference between just singing random shit with random notes and erratic rhythms - that's just bad and effortless - and music that is very exactly written, exactly performed (and thus extreeemly hard to reproduce), actually has a lot of clusters (not random at all) and just sounds strange due to being polyrhythmic etc. It's even somewhat avant-garde outsider-art.

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

​@@joufaxerxes7966Don't forget Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain who ranked Philosophy of the World as his 5th favorite album.

[@johnthecloud]

I like the album. There's something about it that makes you come back to it. It got me into outsider music. It's a good antidote to the mass produced drab popular music. It's music that makes you say "WTF", and any music that does that is not entirely bad.

[@GlaceonStudios]

The Shaggs were banned from listening to any music while they were locked in the basement for five years. They had a routine of homeschool by day, calisthenics before bed, and music practice everywhere in between. So "My Companion" couldn't have been about music.

[@nozecone]

Huh? She says very plainly that 'her companion' is her radio.

[@MazusChannel]

@@nozecone radio can mean walkie talkie

[@Open_for_business]

​@@MazusChannelSewerslvt pfp detected (2nd one today!!)

[@toshiyapangaier7059]

An accidental masterpiece..no wonder..the great Kurt Cobain name's thi album his favourite and most influential of all time

[@thenamelessghuleh]

Same with Tobias Forge of Ghost.

[@curly_wyn]

WHO. CARES. Kurt liking it doesn’t make it good. Even big name people have a right to like this “music”.

[@elio1787]

@@curly_wyn they never said that lol. Calm down buddy

[@RichardThomas-o2k]

Hate it when famous names cite rubbish acts as being brilliant.

[@Hastenforthedawm]

​@@RichardThomas-o2kCobain is rubbish, the Shaggs aren't

[@alaskaguyd963]

The guitar on parents is mesmerizing. There used to be a youtube video of a live performance at the Fremont town hall with no sound. It seems to have been taken off on the last couple of month as I can't find it anymore but playing over the video they have a version of Parents with no lyrics. I couldn't stop listening to it.

[@gooberhellgod]

Hey, I just want to say I appreciate all of the work and effort and thought put into your vids, I know I certainly couldn’t sit through this album 15 times. Great job man!

[@eddievilla1584]

The Shaggs, album is like a fine bottle of wine that was left out in a hot car over the summer and has turned to vinegar, and all I am left to say is, MY EARS, MY FRICKEN EARS!

[@buzzthruwith3413]

I had just watched a documentary on British Prog Rock before the proverbial Rabbit Hole led me to this site. Between the pomposity and mind-numbing twee-ness of the 70's English Prog genre and the sounds from a New England basement, the Shaggs are supremely entertaining! I find this recording so endearing. I would rather listen to the title track than endure an interminable (and unbearably humorless) drum solo at a Grateful Dead liturgy (er. concert). As for those who dislike their music, well, as the song says, "You can never p'ease, anybahhdeee in dis world..."

[@loghorn-feghorn]

Spotify keeps forcing me to listen to 'My Pal Foot Foot' and I’m not sure what to do about it

[@CactusMalpractice]

Give in

[@spinynormanbest6410]

Sue!!

[@popkoala12]

Love your review!!!! So detailed, entertaining and funny (the subtle way I noticed blood around your ears was hilarious 😂) Also do I have to mention the effort that you did to hear 15 times the album? Like that took some dedication dude!!! Keep doing videos. I'd love to see more 😊

[@CactusMalpractice]

Thank you Lixin! New one should be coming soon I hope!

[@wohlhabendermanager]

Frank Zappa called The Shaggs "like The Beatles, but better". That's all I need to know.

[@curly_wyn]

Yeah, fuck Zappa.

[@Hastenforthedawm]

Dude knew what was up

[@johnchurchillmusicart]

Just discovered this channel. I love so-called bad music and I make what some call bad music. Your videos are right up my alley. Great job and subscribed.

[@Mutatedordinary]

I’m scared to hear the songs that were cut from the album!

[@Malkmusianful]

they, in their intended (i.e. written) form, are on Dot Wiggin's first solo outing Ready Get Go. rough around the edges, but fun music. - also, if you tune the guitars to standard - Betty and Dot's guitars sound like they're a hair off-tune in a bad way - these songs actually can be played with open and barre chords. and if you tweak the timings just a bit and not try to consider Helen Wiggin's drumming as a reference, you'll realize that these songs are just Herman's Hermits songs played like a garage rock band starting out. - also, there's evidence, according to the Light in the Attic reissue of the album, that this album was recorded in 1967 - at least the basic tracks (what you hear most of the time). the 1969 date commonly cited on the Internet is the recording date for Rachel's bass parts (one of which got transferred) and some alternate tries at the guitar parts for the album. some of the Shaggs' Own Thing tracks that show them playing competently date to 1969, so how would they sound this shambolic when just a month later, they'd do a nice version of "Wheels"? The answer: Austin wanted to get them "while they were hot" back in 1967, hence the initial recording sessions. He tried to fix the album in 1969 when they made enough money from the Fremont Town Hall shows - he'd been in discussions with local musicians about sweetening up the tracks with orchestral arrangements. The guys pressing the album used the 1969 session dates on the tape box as the day the album was recorded.

[@madahad9]

This is such a sad and bizarre story that it sounds like a Tim Burton film in the vein of Ed Wood.

[@jons.105]

Their version of The Pipkins' "Gimme Dat Ding" is actually very good.

[@McSpongeCartoons]

The shaggs! Brought to you by Guantanamo Bay

[@taylorjones3083]

I remember the first time I heard about this album was in a random video about "things so bad they're good". Afterwards I listened to it while making dinner. My wife entered the kitchen and asked me "are you listening to music?" Like, she legitimately did not comprehend that this noise was supposed to be a song. I answered that I didn't know.

[@ethanisfancy]

I like the idea that you took someone on a ride and forced them to listen to the entirety of Philosophy of the World

[@marionroller6969]

The Shaggs sound like Captain Beefheart without the talent.

[@crescentfreshbret]

I think the most telling thing about The Shaggs is that they broke up the day Austin Wiggin died. If that’s not the clearest possible indication that the sisters did NOT want to do this at ALL and were completely forced to by their father, I don’t know what is.

[@faultyold3600]

that little sports car best song >:[ (Rocks out ) (Shivers in fear) Also... What a sad back story D:

[@jonathanst.thomas31]

The songs of The Shaggs, Philosophy of The World, belongs in children's shows like Barney & Friends, and Dora The Explora. It's not an album for people who are fans of progressive rock music.

[@dar3mor6]

9:23 WHAT A PRICELESS EXPRESSION!!!

[@ZERONETWORK0]

I found this band in High School, thought it was funny for years and found out, as you discuss, that's it's basically a product of abuse, not innocence or naivety as I thought. Makes it slightly less funny. I also wanna say, I love your videos, they're hilarious and you've covered some of the weirdest stuff ever recorded. I suggest you try Disgrace to the Corpse of Sid by Sore Throat, classic noisecore and weird as hell. Idk if it could be as annoying as Hello Kitty Suicide Club, but it's pretty annoying. Keep up the good work.

[@cornsyruptrucker]

Your ears bleeding around midway thru the review was a nice touch

[@TheMightyPika]

This is gold. I'm loving this channel. I love how you never let us forget the abusive household that spawned this album.

[@farrellmcnulty909]

Philosophy of the World sounds a bit like a Bjork out take.

[@chyrrry]

5:45 I am once again commenting that this sounds like it's out of a horror game. This song specifically reminds me of the game devotion.

[@teptime]

I think it's fair to say that this is possibly the most unpolished album ever released, though that very distinction imbues it with a sort of touching honesty that's lacking in most commercial music. Too, it's comparable to little else, and how many albums can you really say that about? Certainly not enjoyable to all tastes, but it's revered by a small but enthusiastic minority for very legitimate reasons, and has even influenced highly regarded artists.

[@gingeraleisgoated]

Hope it’s not just me that noticed his ear is actually “bleeding”

[@HotFuss-gd9qr]

Awesome video. My only nitpick is that you should have acknowledged how other famous musicians actually praised them. Frank Zappa stated they were "better than the Beatles" and Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain ranked Philosophy of the World as his 5th favorite album. Overall, great video. Also, personally I don't think the Shaggs and Philosophy of the World are that bad. They're not great but far from the worst. They're plenty other albums that are far worse. I actually kinda like their music, it's very endearing. The Shaggs are pretty ahead of their time. I think they might've predated noise rock or the underground alternative music scene in the late 80s and 90s.

[@Geospasmic]

I've gone from knowing nothing about this to being desperate to know the inside story. What were those five years like??

[@corybritton1966]

I challenge anyone to find a band with worse tuning, worse timing, worse singing, worse harmonizing, worse playing, worse writing, it can't be done!!;! The ONLY thing that makes the whole thing worse is the knowledge that they were acquainted with their instruments for five years prior to the recording!!!! It begs the question, what did year one sound like?? YIKES!!!!!!!

[@shwanf]

i cant even tolerate the my pal foot foot slander

[@rogerwilco8146]

Some of these songs remind me of what a Dead Milkmen cover band would sound like on first days practice.

[@DokkaChapman]

I just read that Kurt Cobain listed this as his 5th favourite album of all time and has since been listed as Garage rock... I mean they were close lol.

[@spinynormanbest6410]

I agree , lock it away in a garage

[@Adam7054]

You, my friend, are a genius. Keep doing what you're doing

[@gordonteats298]

LIVE AT THE HAWLEYWOULD BOWL by BREAKFAST WITH AMY a great band, this CD was recorded in a bowling alley,try this one/WE ARE NOT ASHAMED by LUST CONTROL a great CD, but LUST CONTROL was voted the worst band ever, try this one also

[@jliz6435]

Great 3 piece bands : Rush, ZZ Top, Nirvana, Green Day, The Shaggs❤️🔥

[@BenDowdy]

Motörhead, the Roches, and....the Shaggs

[@zeusmanlord1602]

Jesus! I feel sorry for the way they were treated but I feel sorrier for you for endured listening to this more than once!

[@tmamone83]

No lie, "Philosophy of the World" is one of my favorite albums, along with "Trout Mask Replica!"

[@neolbioldey]

Fun fact: Their dad actually released My Pal Foot Foot as a single

[@wesleyhunt7599]

Actually the second prediction was he would have two SONS upon his mother's passing...which he did. The daughters in the rock band counted as one reading.

[@stephaniechochotte434]

Since it sounds different and it doesn't conform to any normal standards of what people think or are taught and what is marketed to them, then that makes it bad, right? Hearing any unfamiliar music can sometimes take several times of listening to it before becoming accustomed to it. There's a scene in a British TV documentary about Capetian Beefheart, titled “The Artist Formerly Known As Capetian Beefheart” where Matt Groening (Simpsons creator) is talking about when he first bought the Trout Mask Replica album. He bought it because of the picture on the cover and he had no idea what to expect. He couldn't listen to it after the first few seconds, stopped the record player and thought it was the worst music he'd ever heard. But then, gave it a second and then a third listen. By the fourth or fifth listen, he said that he thought it was the greatest album of all time ever. I guess one might say it's an acquired listen. There has always been outside musicians and composers, who've always broken conventional “rules”. But music can either be classified as art or a commercial marketing product. If it is designed for mass marketing and sales, then it usually falls into a cookie cutter form a music where everything has to fit in to a certain mold. But if music is an art then it can be unique and individual to the expression of the creator. Art is an expression of life, and life isn't always pretty. Adolph Hitler deemed certain works of art, literature and music to be “degenerate” and ordered it to be destroyed. When the Shaggs record was first released, Frank Zappa is to have said that the Shaggs were better than the Beatles. And while they were short lived and only having one album, one of the sisters, Dot Wiggin continued making music forming the Dot Wiggin Band which I believe is still active today. If you like reviewing the worst music records and and bands check out the Frank Zappa produced GTOs album. Or in my opinion, the worst album of all time ever made is “An Evening With Wild Man Fischer” by Wild Man Fischer and was produced by Zappa. Other ones to check out in my opinion would be the Flying Lizards. and don't forger The Residents.

[@curly_wyn]

What a meaningless novel of a comment you just wrote.

[@cornsyruptrucker]

"this does not.... sound too well." 😆 I like the kid in the back seat's takes too.

[@tschak909]

I put "My Pal Foot Foot" as my phone's wake-up alarm... ...I now wake up 5 minutes early.

[@NorthFlaMan]

How does this reviewer not burst out laughing? I laughed so much I cried!

[@gordonteats298]

WE HAVE A SAVIOR by THE SHAGGS a great song about Jesus, we all need Jesus

[@cosmicbreakfast]

They actually did a reunion show once decades later... and they played exactly as they did on the record! The way the rhythms go in-and-out of sync was completely intentional - possibly the first math-rock record??? And considering the lyrics, personally I kind of feel like they were purposely making music that would be off-putting just to spite their father

[@grizzlystation]

Oh my god, I never thought I'd see you talk about The Shaggs. Awesome. Please keep reviewing terrible music.

[@CactusMalpractice]

; )

[@CactusMalpractice]

In between projects I will hop around this series but no joke I already know what I want to do next and snagged a physical copy before it was lost to time! But yeah this series is really fun to do I just have to be picky with who I pick to review cause copyright is a bitch I don't mind if I don't make any money from this series ever in my life I just don't want a strike or takedown. If I ever did a justin beiber album I would have to cover the songs myself most likely

[@grizzlystation]

@@CactusMalpractice Dude... If you want help covering that Justin Beiber album tho...

[@CactusMalpractice]

Remind me to do this for April fools 2020

[@grizzlystation]

@@CactusMalpractice Definitely will

[@amoureux6502]

One of my favorite music memories was showing this album to my dad in the car, there was a pipe wrench in the back laying on top of a tire iron so periodically through the album we'd hit a bump in the road and we'd get a loud *ring* from the back seat, really punctuated the music like nothing else

[@staberdearth3130]

You can threaten your kids with this album. SEE! You’ll sound like this if you don’t practice! Now you don’t want that, do you?

[@YouTube-Grifter]

I've listened to this album twice now in its entirety and I honestly struggle to tell any of the songs apart... It's just one long song to me ...

[@kevin2400]

My pal foot foot is their born to run

[@tueferbenz7492]

My Pal Foot Foot is one of the all-time classic noise/underground/whatever songs. I usually don't listen to noise except for Boredoms sometimes, but this is great.

[@Brinnmations]

12:18 lol

[@AugAug989]

The opening song is actually kinda a bop ngl

[@DougieJohnson-l5w]

Listening to your descriptions of their family relationships definitely made me piss myself from laughing so hard so much, also actually shit a little bit - I LOVE THIS ALBUM

[@JomasterTheSecond]

*Even Dracula will be there.*

[@Frank_42]

Someone on the internet had to mention that Foot Foot was a cat, which makes things quite a bit clearer. Before that I thought Foot Foot was her imaginary friend (in line with "My Companion") or maybe some neighbour's kid that she was stalking that was trying to avoid her at all costs. Some of their songs do seem to have a bit of a stalking vibe, like that Little Sports Car. And how should I know "My Companion" is a radio? Maybe it was god or a little ghost girl that was murdered by her parents in the same basement where they were forced to play. That said yes I did feel for them and want to give them a hug after hearing these songs.

[@elc1960]

I have one serious question for Garrett, if I may be so bold: If you had had no knowledge of The Shaggs' backstory and all their parental struggles and all the other shit they went through, would you still be inclined to give this album any high marks at all, or would you hate it just as much as that poor person you tortured in your car by playing this for them?

[@CactusMalpractice]

I do think the backstory goes hand in hand with enjoying the shaggs. I think it did have a huge impact with me enjoying this album. So yeah I probably wouldn't have liked it as much

[@elc1960]

@@CactusMalpractice Fair enough man. Thanks!

[@kiranbrown5309]

Very informative thank you

[@jonathanst.thomas31]

You can compare the Shaggs to the bands that I have mentioned in my other posts

[@Bambino_60]

Dude said “the real trenches of the album “ with Charlie Chaplin body language 😂 I died

[@cynthiacrawford6673]

9:09 my last brain cell after hearing this album

[@cornsyruptrucker]

“This does not ___ so well” is a phrase I try to use daily since first watching this

[@Redconservative]

Do songs I should have pitched by Nick Nittoli

[@echo1174]

Why do I find this album and these girls so endearing. Captain BeefHeart is great, Gto's are great, I like this stuff. Honest tu Poooh!

[@stupendoushorrendous8258]

Sweet Thing genuinely makes my eyes well up with tears.

[@gotozerobassman]

Trout Mask Replica is absolute genius. It's free jazz in a rock band setting. The difference between these 2 albums is that Trout Mask is intentional played by supurb musicians, while the Shaggs couldn't play.

[@shaunminahan9921]

I've read a lot now about the Wiggins sisters. What a complete bastard their father was. Sad stories.

[@jonathanst.thomas31]

The Shaggs also reminds of the band Sleater Kinney. For more information go to kzbin.info?search_query=Sleater+Kinney+Dig+Me+Out+Full+Album

[@curly_wyn]

They sound nothing alike. How dare you compare The Shaggs to the best band of the 2000s.

[@jonathanst.thomas31]

@@curly_wyn Understood. You and I know that Sleater Kinney is much better than The Shaggs ever was but many music fans still don't know that Sleater Kinney even exists so i took the time to spread the word.

[@stephenwyatt88]

15:31 That part of the song is rather cute.

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

Haha, just yesterday I was obsessing over that part

[@l.salisbury1253]

The Shaggs were genuinely awful! They were also genuinely 10 years ahead of their time! Listen to "Philosophy of the World" again (or at least snippets of each song)- then listen to these School-of-79 UK bands: the Raincoats, Delta 5, Essential Logic, the Slits, Young Marble Giants, plus the Swiss band Kleenex (aka Liliput). These bands took what the Shaggs (and the Velvet Underground) started and took it to the Euro Top 40 in 79-80 (as-well-as developing small-but-loyal Yank cult followings).

[@curly_wyn]

Well at least you’re willing to admit that it sucks. Also, this album sounds NOTHING like any of the bands that you mentioned.

[@magictransistorradio4933]

How about The Beach Boys 15 Big Ones. I am a die hard Beach Boys fan. But I hate that album. Brian Wilson was forced into the studio and half heartedly covered a bunch of oldies and a couple of 'new' songs that weren't very good. The best new song on the album was written by Mike Love. So that should tell you how bad it is. Al Jardine's Susie Cincinnati might be the best original, but it was recorded 6 years earlier.

[@KrooTon]

Loved the increasing blood from the ears as it goes on... 😂

[@wazz35]

This album feels like Rock and Roll haunted house music

[@bobsoldrecords1503]

Foot Foot is my favourite song on the album. It's brilliant. Frank Zappa said this was better than the Beatles. I think that song was the one that prompted that opinion

[@incumbentvinyl9291]

10:43 - Music that makes your ears bleed. Next up, Mr. Cactus watches a shit movie until his eyes bleed.

[@GrinninPig]

"yo brother! Pick up the sticks! Or maybe pop in the 95 bash at the beach into the vcr here" - the hulkster behind you

[@danielmartin7505]

I was a teacher, and one year I tried to get the kids to vote for Foot Foot as a prom theme. It was going up against Stairway to Heaven. Stairyway won needless to say,but the Shaggs song got like 200 votes. It was a glorious failure.

[@jonathanst.thomas31]

My take is The Shaggs music belongs on children’s tv shows like Barney & Friends, and Dora The Explorer

[@rebewtinydino2572]

I like the song my pal foot foot because about cat the sisters really loved

[@the_most_ever_company]

listen to their song "My Cutie" off their second album it' is one of the most beautiful things

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

actually they rerecorded many of these songs in later years. the rerecordings aren't nearly as bad as the original 1969 album. but at this point in time i can't tell the "good" versions from the "bad" ones. there was once a band called "the chocolate-watch band" who recorded and released three albums at the height of the psychedelic era 1967-68. although they appeared in a movie "riot on the sunset strip" in 1967 they were destined to be but a forgotten footnote in r&r history. their last album was so chaotic the producer finished the album with a different singer and an entirely different band on some tracks because he couldn't find the band to finish the album. but he still credited every song to "the chocolate-watch band." in the 70s collectors rediscovered the band's three albums which originally sold very little and their albums became sought after and VERY EXPENSIVE collectors items. the value of these original albums were nearly equal to original elvis and beatles albums. the difference between "the chocolate-watch band" and "the shaggs" is that the former were actually VERY, VERY GOOD! they're one of my favorite bands today. the point i'm making is... there's no telling what the future will bring. recognition, good or bad, can come at any time.

[@markus2021]

I think Philosophy of the world Is the most ghoulish album ever

[@curly_wyn]

It’s sinister, how bad it is!

[@amj.composer]

The modulations, polyrhythms, polymeters, metric modulations and microtonalities are beyond y'all plebs.

[@BenDowdy]

Yes.

[@Apathist1408]

Okay yeah but it isn’t like trout mask replica where it was done on purpose. That being said, they can play these songs exactly as adults today, and that is pretty impressive.

[@dannydamnmendez]

You'll Cowards Don't Even Play Offbeat

[@SprocketWatchclock]

You know, the prediction actually was right. They are popular just specifically popular among a niche category. Their weirdness has brought their music a lot of attention, enough to get a reissue of the album, a follow up album composed of unreleased material, and another follow up of previously unrecorded material with a new lineup under the name the Dot Wiggin Band. That's not nothing.

[@rogerwilco8146]

I feel like i can kinda hear what they are trying for sometimes.. I think they coulda been a great punk band

[@thomasmcconnell8507]

After hearing My Pal Foot Foot and My Companion, I took a set of hedge clippers, opened them up, duct taped them to my dinner table (with one of the blades pointing up) and was proceeding to plunge my open mouth-hole into the blade; luckily my daughter stopped me just before I committed skull hari-kari. Thanks, Pumpkin... The whole album is a soundtrack to kill to. ☠☠☠ Play it at Guantanamo for full effect.