GARY PAYTON EXPOSES HIS MICHAEL JORDAN HATE IN GOAT DEBATE!

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[@christopherlouisecheng690]

No doubt his son thinks he can him in his prime..

[@APOCALYPSE_X-MEN]

@@terrencefields5265 And my opinions will live rent free in your head for the rest of yours.

[@fromthej]

I see Payton is still butthurt about losing in the Finals to Jordan 🤣

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

No lies told.

[@rollandcurtisoffExpoInThe30s]

I think that he's upset that Michael Jordan laughed at him in the Last Dance documentary. That moment where Michael Jordan laughed at Gary Payton became a viral and very popular GIF.

[@HardWorkENT23]

Hated on by his elders, peers, teammates & the younger generation…MJ is truly the GOAT!!!!

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Man y'all act like Mike a saint. Dude was caught hating on Walt Frazier according to Phil Jackson, Tex Winter, and George Gervin.

[@HardWorkENT23]

@ ok &? …… who da fuq said Mike was a Saint???? Facts still remains to what u were responding to…. Everybody aiming at Tha Bul everybody aiming at the 🐐

[@Westlyn80]

This is Gary capping cause Mike kind of downplayed the glove on the last dance by saying I HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE GLOVE.

[@3912James]

Even before the Last Dance I read that Gary Payton viewed John Stockton a bigger threat than Jordan. He and a few other players were slow or reluctant to give Jordan props.

[@j.m.flemmingii]

Facts!

[@DEYLINER]

Funny how ALL these HAS-BEEN guys wanna talk 💩 about JORDAN…..They will do ANYTHING….and I MEAN “ANYTHING” for a CHECK FROM CLUTCH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lamargettens2370]

@@3912JamesI can see why he said that John played in Utah Gary played them more then bulls that was the hump Gary had to get over to win the west

[@ricardolozano5356]

jordan laughed at him when he said that he stopped him in the finals

[@danycjones1325]

Did he just say letrash is a better ball handler than MJ??😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lucianodadon7822]

LeBron can’t chain together 2 or more moves without traveling to china or fumbling the ball into the first row😂

[@17thN.O]

​@@lucianodadon7822That's a fact. Remember the "crab dribble" travel move he did earlier in his career.

[@danycjones1325]

@lucianodadon7822 yea letrash carrys Palms the ball takes 5 steps stiff arms bulldozes them looks to refs for a foul

[@TMD-g8o]

The turnover king is a better ball handler?

[@ricardolozano5356]

6000 turnovers

[@freemind8227]

Gary a fake tough guy let me get Vernon Maxwell on the phone to straighten Gary out

[@bobbymoore2076]

Lol!!!😅😅 right!

[@fromthej]

Xavier McDaniel too

[@steezefly3441]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelgill5135]

Gary getting paid now

[@jaydot4956]

Gary gave his honest opinion, cry about it.

[@rudeea2162]

Some of the worst takes about NBA basketball comes from NBA players🤦🏽‍♂️🙄🙄

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

I agree.

[@dnice4145]

For real.

[@kfabwrestling3862]

That’s why fans gotta be careful in terms of how much to value what a player says. I say this all the time, nba players are fans just like us and some of them are fanboys and any fanboy is dangerous

[@MG53v8]

Butt hurt effect

[@steezefly3441]

Facts 😂

[@leogolive]

All the dudes who got cooked by MJ hate him. They all know who the GOAT is 😂😂😂

[@jaycastro5044]

Same way for Kobe...

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

​@jaycastro50. I. Agree.44

[@jaycastro5044]

@@RandallGay-qx1uc It's why ESPN is not only a Lebron network, but also an anti MJ and Kobe network.

[@leogolive]

@@jaycastro5044 💯💪🏾

[@edwardtatum6136]

What championship did he win in college or any level?

[@leogolive]

Lebron doesn’t exhaust himself huh? That’s because he had to reserve his energy for the Diddy parties😂

[@JayLove-zk7pj]

😂😂😂😂

[@EthanDansereau2000]

Kobe also went to Diddy's birthday party.

[@JayLove-zk7pj]

@ I guess you were also at the Diddy party with your boyfriend to witness it

[@EthanDansereau2000]

@ All I know is that nobody is good except Jesus Christ.

[@JayLove-zk7pj]

@ Ok but i thought LeBron James is your God and savior

[@atlien1988]

By far better all-around? LeBron is a better basketball player? If that's the case, then why do they allow so many damn excuses?

[@Michael-mt6yb]

Because he needs more help

[@ricardolozano5356]

bad free throw shooter and plays no defense

[@ricardolozano5356]

lehelp James

[@jaydot4956]

@@ricardolozano5356Lebron is one of the best two players ever.

[@ricardolozano5356]

@@jaydot4956 you're grandma can score on him

[@andrecarter1590]

Gp basically explained what makes mj better and still said that dumb sh*t😂

[@kirbyaugustine761]

Exactly. All MJ’s positives have to be reinterpreted into negatives while all LeBron’s negatives have to be reinterpreted into positives in order to elevate him over MJ.

[@markishayes1888]

Exactly!!!

[@PLAYBOY60644]

Lebron never played a full season but everything about him is elite, Gary never liked MJ, he felt he had locked down defense on MJ and MJ laughed him off

[@Jaymoe-lh6rl]

MJ cooked Gary Payton in the finals...😂😂

[@o751106]

2Raw speaking nothing but truth!

[@grand5528]

End that's makes MJ the GOAT. Because he never responds, but other people do. That all makes Him MJ the GOAT

[@CensorTube84]

Ignoring these dudes like gnats

[@ahamarwahli5856]

Facts & he would never constantly put an imaginary crown on his head in public

[@robertwilson9528]

​@@ahamarwahli5856LeBron is the most insecure superstar ever

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

I agree Jordan is not paying these clowns any attention.​@@CensorTube84

[@rollandcurtisoffExpoInThe30s]

I think that he's still upset that Michael Jordan laughed at him in the Last Dance documentary. That moment where Michael Jordan laughed at Gary Payton became a viral and very popular GIF.

[@fromthej]

TWO GUYS I AM SO SICK OF & CANT FOR THEM TO DISAPPEAR, LEBRON & TRUMP!!!

[@andrecarter1590]

At least Trump is entertaining

[@ilyakats54]

Too bad, you have Trump for FOUR MORE YEARS. 😂

[@victormartin3539]

I agree😂

[@Artlife0831]

Michael Jordan's point guard (PG) stats include: Points per game (PPG): 33.6 Rebounds per game (RPG): 11.4 Assists per game (APG): 10.8 Steals per game (SPG): 2.9 Blocks per game (BPG): 0.8 Shooting percentage: 51% Triple-doubles: 10 in 11 games The glove must not know. Jordan was a monster

[@1D4ever]

Gary Payton always throws shade at Mike like alley oops to Kemp, he is just Mad about getting laughed at in the Last Dance. That's the most nonsense answer yet, he got a check

[@MultiSimonchan]

Micheal Jordan :"I had no problem with the glove." Is all you need to debunk it.😂😂😂

[@Westlyn80]

Hey,Gary!!!! That makes no sense !!!!

[@WizzyWayy]

Theo, that’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my LIFE!!!!!

[@Qoordis]

When MJ played the same role as lebron he had better stats

[@jaydot4956]

Negative

[@mj23goat3]

@@jaydot4956 Sounds like someone needs to look up what happened when MJ moved over to point back in '89.

[@robertwilson9528]

@@mj23goat3 they don't want the truth

[@ericperry27]

I mean basically a trip dub... Imagine if he stayed at that position.... Smh a triple double CAREER!? 😂 That'd be crazy

[@hardart-]

Man. I was on youtube watching 1991 Finals Game 2 this a.m. GOAT!

[@robertwilson9528]

Hell yeah or the entire 93 finals. Superhuman

[@TyrroneHinton]

Damn! The Glove is on the take along with the rest of the zesty jelly-backs 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ashtonjackfanny]

Gary mad AF at Mike for laughing at his defense on the last dance, as he should he can't stop Mike. LeBron stats has him with a losing record in the finals so how much does his skill set lead to winning I'll wait

[@BBallGOAT]

I would be too when the guy who is laughing shot 36% while being guarded by you

[@mannyperry4170]

​What was Gary's field goal percentage against Jordan's defense? I'll wait. The actual fact is Jordan outscored Gary and Hershey Hawkins. shot way better than both of them from the field combined. Infact Jordan outscored the entire Sonic's team. That's why the bulls won the series. Gary couldn't hold Jordan to a lower point total than what he scored plus he shot worst. You dudes don't know nothing about stats stop it

[@timwise6462]

Notice Gary Paton came right after Scottie to say this. Klutch got to him.

[@VincentSmith-fg3ri]

He don't really believe this BS 👄😂

[@robertwilson9528]

He definitely doesn't

[@JJ_5289]

No way, hes just looking to stir the pot.

[@88rkinlaw]

So Bron is better because he doesn't want to compete? MJ being competitive makes him a lesser player??! Just stop talking GP. That may be the worst sports take I've ever heard.

[@robertwilson9528]

Agreed

[@terrygross5740]

MJ has never claim to be the GOAT. This is a media driven topic. MJ has even said that he would have not won six(6) championships without Scottie Pippen. Has Lebron James ever given Kyrie Irving credit for hitting that big shot in the 2016 championship series. Has he ever given Ray Allen credit for hitting that big shot with the Miami Heat. Lebron has never given anyone else credit other than himself. No matter how MJ got it done, at the end of the day he still WON.

[@fromthej]

FACTZ!!

[@cycleoflife565]

He’s given credit to himself for 2016 saying that made him the GOAT. He is comical example of someone being embarrassingly delusional and everyone around him and the mainstream media just going along with it.

[@richardmanningjr2637]

Terry gross You have just made the best case for LeBron NOT to be called the Goat.

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

Michael Jordan said in 1996 championship, he answered a reporter and said. "I feel I'm the greatest ever" Wilt and Oscar Robertson lit him. A new one.

[@pboyRadio]

I think Adam silver is paying him to combat those terrible ratings

[@kingellis2007]

The Klutch check cleared!!

[@alejandrobarrionuevo9957]

"tiring himself out from playing defense" HAS GOT TO BE THE DUMBEST SHIT ever said

[@Dinojong]

I think they do not like Mr.Jordan because he does not engage with any of this. He is aloof and very standoffish. He NEVER responds to any of this nonsense.

[@robertwilson9528]

Payton should now be called "the mitten" with that dumb ass take

[@mj23goat3]

Comment section WINNER!

[@robertwilson9528]

@mj23goat3 lol

[@MiQuelSimmons]

Gary is a part of the long list of players who were whipped on by Jordan.

[@jamalrahmaan9804]

LeBron is not an elite rebounder and he definitely not an elite passer😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@305slick]

You cooking 2Raw 🔥

[@ivanviera4773]

Stupid GOAT debate. In the 1996 Finals you could see MJ guarding Gary full court even with the Wizards MJ gives you way better defense than Lebron. So now playing defense its not good. 🤣🤣

[@RandallGay-qx1uc]

All of these players like pippen . Isiah payton that is always hating on jordan saying that lebron is the goat over jordan must be funny to jordan because he have not and will not respond back to these clowns.

[@aloominknottyheadtap900]

GP openly refused to learn the triangle offense the one year he was with Phil Jackson in L.A. as STARTING POINT GUARD

[@wendylee0618]

Lakers are struggling because of lack of defense but he is talking about passing

[@kirbyaugustine761]

The media has overinflated LeBron’s overall ability for his entire career. When he makes an occasional clever pass they overinflate the narrative into he’s a great passer, like Magic. When he occasionally guards an opposing player for a possession or two they overinflate the narrative into he can guard 1 thru 5. All the things they lie about Lebron being great at he wasn’t even elite at in his athletic prime. He was mad about not getting DPOY over Marc Gasol but he had 21 more seasons to prove he deserved it and didn’t get one for the rest of his career.

[@theresak2024]

🎯

[@DarkWolf-407]

Funny how the 6'9" 260lbs "Small Forward" couldn't get DPOY but the average height and weight Shooting Gaurd did.

[@DarkWolf-407]

Definitely not as a SF. They're supposed to be great at offense and defense. Lechoke was at best in his peak only good but never great.

[@gmailgmail6234]

@@DarkWolf-407fake dpoy fake stats buddy

[@Dubtownking88]

💯 no lies told

[@ericperry27]

I thought the Ferrari story was about jamal Crawford? Or somebody else

[@JudahTribe-lt3ur]

LeBron and killer doesn’t belong in the same sentence! Wow Gary

[@robertwilson9528]

Say it louder for the people in the back please

[@JudahTribe-lt3ur]

@@robertwilson9528 👏🏽👏🏽

[@TheBINIBALL]

I hope you talk about Elon cutting Vivek from DOGE soon. Bro didn’t even get to serve for a day 😂😂😂

[@jabroni_z2686]

Give Josh Hart his credit too. He’s 6’4 guard and averages 9.6 boards per game! 💪🏾

[@alejandrobarrionuevo9957]

OMG, if LeBron is such an 'elite' passer, then why does he LEAD NBA HISTORY IN TURNOVERS???

[@gmailgmail6234]

John stocken is number 4 on turnovers is he a bad passer?

[@ninocrown3247]

GP must be sipping that cognac. Lebron should have broke the triple double record long before Russ, based on his height, strength, athleticism and control of the offense. Lebron has underperformed as a rebounder historically,

[@PerfectJelly-b7k]

Salute 2RAW, I went and watched the video and I couldn't shake how much it felt like a completely backhanded compliment it looked, at least to me. It's like Klutch can pay them whatever, the truth is always shining through.

[@fredrickprice2037]

How can the NBA give credit to somebody that constantly stack teams regularly ,just be in the playoffs ,at some point, they are cheating the game, period...

[@jrob830]

It's always difficult to explain bs. Nothing they come up with makes sense lol

[@1D4ever]

I think that's the worst answer I have ever heard

[@jrob830]

@1D4ever man! Lol

[@ronque23]

These players get in their feelings cuz sometimes Mike is too honest about never regarding any of them as a real threat to him. They want him to be more humble. Mike is humble with his teammates, coaching staff and the fans and that’s it.

[@anthonyclark9441]

Thought GP was a Stand Up Dude. I see I was SADLY mistaken. I get it, he's mad that Mike laughed at him saying that he gave Mike "problems" in the 96 Finals.

[@MrCorner21]

Gary mad cause of that MJ laptop meme laughing at his ass 😂

[@AshMarieG]

Gary Payton is just hating on MJ because he beat him

[@Subzero3639live]

Mj is the 2nd greatest rebounding shooting guard ever!! Lebron is not top 5 as a small forward!!!

[@FirstBallot7]

OMG, Unklutch done got to GP too... They paying EVERYBODY ! ! !

[@sameliopoulos1647]

Congrats to Gary, the worst goat take of all time. 😂

[@eromanjr43]

Gary Gripe Payton is just another sour hater because MJ denied him a ring so he had to go to a stacked miami heat team with shaq, mourning, wade and a bunch of young guys. At 37 yrs old he only played 28 min yet Jordan at 40 played 37. Jealousy is a mind killer.

[@Sloan-n9q]

Payton is just another bitter ninja just like Scottie and Isiah.

[@dantenewyork7380]

But he doesnt rebound at an elite level and he doesnt rise to tue occasion

[@brendawilliams61]

I've lost all respect for my Bay Area brotha.

[@PizzaTime727]

Total opposite of his last interview. Must have needed the $$$

[@robertwilson9528]

Damn! True!

[@raingeart1]

Payton is a big-time liar James gets more assists and a few more REB Jordan won more shot better his game was smoother his footwork and fundamentals more sound James is ball sloppy free-throw shooting is not even close is his defense better James load-manages on D Jordan at 40 on a bad leg was better Payton has no shame

[@johnricks5045]

That’s because he never won a Championship.

[@TheBamaPrinceable]

He did but as a past his prime near retirement veteran role player with the Heat long after the Jordan era.

[@DarkWolf-407]

​@@TheBamaPrinceablehe was a bus rider. His only chance was against the Bulls and he might as well have not played because no way in hell was he beating Mike.

[@TheBamaPrinceable]

​@@DarkWolf-407 I know what he said is BS but I hope you're not seriously calling prime Payton a bus rider

[@DarkWolf-407]

@@TheBamaPrinceable hear payton. Well past his prime.

[@terryboy3579]

Gary is talking stupid...its a reason Jordan is 6-0,LeBron 4-6& Gary 1-3 in the finals..dude just stop it..M.J is the GOAT!!..& Im a Tim Duncan fan

[@brendawilliams61]

He's on the payroll

[@munoken]

The CAP 🧢 is on an ALL-TIME HIGH 😂 🤣 😅 😆 🤡 🤭 😀 😁 🤹‍♂️ 🎪

[@ericperry27]

That ending 😂😂

[@handsomeahkbar3875]

Well how many other players really feel like that since he kept half the NBA from winning a championship

[@chicityvetIckes079]

MJ in they minds rent free....he playing it smart by not responding he made impact in the NBA if youre old enough to witness his career you know he wasnt perfect but he never sat out games just willingly win or loss and just happen to be part of a 3peat twice with the Bulls in the 90s.

[@vudujl83]

Gary, think your “glove”’is on too tight and is cutting off the circulation to your brain…

[@MelloMood1]

All Time Leader in Turnovers, All Time Leader in Missed Shots, 4-6 Finals record, 22-33 overall Finals record. Disappears in the 4th Qtr is the far better player than Michael Jeffrey Jordan (The Real GOAT)? OK, GP.....LOL. Someone is still bitter over that '96 Finals lost to MJ23.

[@robertwilson9528]

Don't forget fifth in missed free throws and third in missed threes

[@ilyakats54]

What Payton said is one of most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in his rambling, incoherent quote was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the comment section is now dumber for having heard it.

[@DarkWolf-407]

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul, gary.

[@ilyakats54]

@ indeed

[@richardadams4029]

GARY Peyton should know better than to say something so stupid and if that's the case then what does that make Peyton ok I get it these guys are just jealous of Michael Jordan and that statement confirmed my suspicion

[@clarencebetts5239]

Gary Payton and Isiah Thomas are two brothers from different mothers.

[@BronxBomber1105]

Did not know there was so much hate for MJ. Gary who? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DarkWolf-407]

GP2 dad. That's all I know him as. As far as I'm concerned Young Glove > old glove.

[@mrmaxxx94]

Gary bought and paid for. Jordan aint tripping on Gary at all. Gary trying to get a gig on one of these big networks. If Lebron was all that then how come Anthony Davis is happy as a puppet? If Bron was all then how come his teammates aren't better? Bron don't scare folks like Steph or Kwahi Leonard and thats the dude we have missed in the past 5 years imo

[@robertwilson9528]

No i know y we call him GP. Stands for "got paid" by klutch

[@jeremyjoseph1867]

I thought Gary say Wilt was his goat a couple years ago…

[@25vegita]

Lequeen james???? Gary Payton??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Still mad over 1996 ??? Championships?

[@harlemfire]

GP logic sound so crazy, it sounds like a back handed compliment, or like he's being sarcastic when talking about lebron

[@JayCity10]

Wilt is really Gary Payton's GOAT. He has never been a fan of Micheal Jordan. I think part of that, is Jordan's Last Dance reaction to Gary Payton's ability and talent. He chose LeBron, as a de-facto pick. Dr. J has said something similar, about both LeBron and Jordan. However, his GOAT is Kareem.

[@chill6789]

the lemedia hires these goofballs to host these sports shows then they invite ex nba players on the show and pay them to say ledinosaur is better than MJ

[@robertwilson9528]

Anyone notice everytime a lebron fan start to state lebrons goat case they start with and stay on longevity? They know they cant say shit about winning and titles and accolades and impact on the game. They just focus on individual stats and he played for 60 years and oh he got his bum son playing in the league lol

[@MrKurtykurt]

MJ has the most defensive rebounds per game by a shooting guard all time, Lebron is 3rd all time among small forwards. Then for total rebounds per game, MJ is 3rd all time at his position while Lebron falls down to 13th. And that’s bc MJ was also top 10 in per game offensive rebounds while Lebron is out of the top 50. (He might not even be top 100 but most likely he’s somewhere between 100-50) But the LeVisionist Historians have mastered the art of sans-context, so regardless of the fact there is a significant and relevant difference between offensive and defensive rebounds, we can lump them together and see a bigger number of “Total rebounds” next to Lebron’s name and crown him the better rebounder. Lebron is a 6’9” forward who plays closer to the rim. So why anyone expects the 6’6” guard to have more defensive rebounds is questionable. But it’s very questionable to automatically call the 6’9” forward a better rebounder when the 6’6” shooting guard is significantly better on the end of the floor where position doesn’t matter and you actually have work for it. And what’s more insidious is they then use this logically flawed rebounding analysis as evidence Lebron is the “better all around player,” which, what tf does that even mean? He’s not close to MJ defensively but 2 more assists and defensive rebounds make him the guy who “do it all!” But I’ve rambled long enough, I’ll save their all time rankings by position to show the “best overall player” for another day

[@Betec876]

Just remember this dude got his head handed to him.... gp is 🗑

[@ChristopherNealBUSHIDO49ERS]

These dudes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dionbernard3033]

Gary" the hater of Jordan" Payton.

[@alejandrobarrionuevo9957]

(i LOST ALL RESPECT i 'had' for Gary Payton)

[@extremex9387]

GP just mad because Mj made him take that glove off. And miss me with that LeBron is a killer BS.

[@roncollymore1330]

This all round misleading shenanigans but he's the all time turnovers

[@michaelairjordan23GOAT24]

Lebron james is not Michael Jordan level Kobe Bryant

[@aliasname602]

I bet Lebron wrote that script, and paid off Payton's Kia for getting him to say that. Only Lebron could think of that.

[@leighwright3450]

LeBron don't do 💩 at an ELITE level other than FLOP lol 😆

[@perfectibilist]

Wait.... didn't LeBron stans say that Jordan didn't guard the other team's best player and that it was always Pippen who did that? 🤔

[@aloominknottyheadtap900]

Yes

[@claytonphillips85]

This is getting real tiring at this point, these older players are talking this nonsense because they're probably getting paid behind the scenes.

[@frantzkenol6720]

you said everything I wanted to say 2RAW. it's a joke

[@buckeyesovereverything]

LeBron is a major underachiever when it comes to rebounding. Idk why he gets compared to guards when it comes to that, he is a forward, he is a big, to never average double digit rebounds, not even 9 should be a major knock to an “all around player” with his size & athleticism but somehow it isn’t