Where SLAM Came From | DYING FETUS

[@Andrew_DC5]

Quite surprised he didn’t mention Suffocation and THAT riff!

[@arbitrare]

Liege of inveracity

[@Schizophrenic_Knowledge]

sepultura invented everything

[@Andrew_DC5]

@@Schizophrenic_Knowledge Sepultura had a huge impact on the metal scene back in those days. They deffo helped shape metal into what it is today. I dont think i have ever met anyone into heavy music in my nearly 40 years of existence that doesn’t love Cavalera era Sepultura.

[@justinalley3399]

Internal Bleeding Invented Slam

[@camdero3294]

@@justinalley3399 i was so looking for this

[@Cenyon]

It's crazy how Dying Fetus has managed to crank out awesome albums for literally decades at this point.

[@jnthxn_]

cool that he mentions coroner king diamond agnostic front and early megadeth. also john rocking a dokken tee?! badass!

[@mOnStErMACEO]

Stormtroopers of Death!!! They really don’t get enough recognition and respect!!! “Speak English or Die” is just monumental!!!!

[@jnthxn_]

fuck yeah!!!! and they’re better than anthrax.. their riffs are god tier SO FUCKING UNDERRATED

[@mOnStErMACEO]

@@jnthxn_ anthrax was made for the mainstream. SOD not so much AT ALL!!!! 😂

[@Killerklownsfromouterspace]

Seen em at a club called Mississippi Nights in St Louis in the 80’s and it was fucking absolutely insane! Exactly what you’d think it would be. Goddamn I miss those days. So many good shows back then.

[@mOnStErMACEO]

@@Killerklownsfromouterspace I’m 43 and I feel I’m a bit too young to fully comprehend it. But I for sure have listened many times!! They definitely kick ass, it’s Anthrax with extra balls and crunchier riffs!!!

[@Killerklownsfromouterspace]

@@mOnStErMACEO Pretty much. Other than Billy Milano it’s Anthrax. I just loved it back then cause you’d be at a show and look on the boards outside and you’d be at an S.O.D. show and then the next night it’d be Overkill. Then two days later King Diamond, Then the next night DRI. Then the next night Testament. It was so fuckin rad back then. Shows galore. I was fortunate enough to see Metallica, Wasp and Armored Saint at a bar called Reflections in St Louis as well. Metallica was on ride the Lightning. I still have my autographed ticket from James and Cliff. I don’t know if people really can comprehend how good of times those shows used to be and how easy it was to meet your hero’s. There’s still great shows don’t get me wrong but it’s definitely not the same.

[@medvidmaks]

I love when he goes "tadada dzh dzh ta dzh dzh". I felt that

[@d1ni1mueter]

yesss

[@Gorthaur-Bauglir]

Please have Undeath and Necrot on the show, thank you for exposing me to so many awesome bands like Vitriol, Cabal, and many more I'd never know about if it wasn't for your podcast!!! Long live Garza!!!

[@jbscornerstore]

25 Ta Life and Next Step Up, wow, great mentions, man!

[@Markus-z5u]

Thumb was Good too. And No innocent Victim .

[@ifgwelf]

I love how intuitive John is. Guys chill asf.

[@t045tSKT]

Thatttsss crazy. - Dude from suicide silence

[@Keepitsavage21]

Yup it’s cool to see other death. Metal musicians talk about their inspirations.

[@t045tSKT]

@Keepitsavage21 no, that was a commentary on how he says "that's crazy" or "that's sick" to almost anything anyone says because he has two braincells left.

[@Keepitsavage21]

@@t045tSKT what do you want the guy, moaning or something clearly you think too hard on his responses and not too much on the answers from the other interviewers.

[@t045tSKT]

@@Keepitsavage21 I want a good interviewer who has more quips

[@Keepitsavage21]

@@t045tSKT I mean, this interviewer is getting more out of these musicians then they get from the general public. I’ve learned so much about these OG death metal bands just from this podcast alone.

[@okaight7248]

I noticed a long time ago that there’s 100% a slam in At The Graves by King Diamond. It’s very archaic but the elements are there. Sleepless Nights is 100% a breakdown too.

[@RibeiroGames12]

Nuns have no fun has an awesome breakdown too

[@fredsmith5925]

Slam has been around since the early 1980s.

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

I thought slam came from Onyx

[@briang138]

let the boyz be boyz

[@sethputnamsghost]

Attack of the Ball headz!!😂

[@fredsmith5925]

Onyx was referring to slam in that song from 1994. Which was before IB started using it.

[@K-ORA]

Awesome interview 🤘🏽. Love all those bands. My professor and recording engineer, recorded Agnostic Front - John Smith! He still has the reel to reels on tape of some of the sessions. Crazy that it influenced them, such a small world 🖤🤘🏽

[@Ikebixcezare]

They're from New York hence NYHC lol

[@K-ORA]

@@Ikebixcezare They recorded in Chicago my Dude, I think late 80s. There edited*

[@theecuadorianxl2471]

Internal Bleeding, Pyrexia, and Suffocation started the slam style.

[@ScabPhag]

@@theecuadorianxl2471 don't forget devourment

[@useroftheskateboard]

don't forget Rezume

[@Keepitsavage21]

What about mortician? They have a lot of chugging riffs for 1990s zombie apocalypse, or the heck up for barbecue, have such groove 🤘🏽🔥

[@theecuadorianxl2471]

@@ScabPhag Devourment is highly influential for sure. Loved their demos

[@theecuadorianxl2471]

@@Keepitsavage21 Nothing is heavier and more brutal than Mortician. Chainsaw Dismemberment and Hacked Up For Barbecue still get blasted around my house.

[@holveragtz]

Awesome Dokken shirt! 🤘🤘

[@bryandennis9722]

I am so impressed they mentioned Next Step Up.

[@EMG81xTHRASHER]

well they did cover one of their songs.

[@jnero79]

Nice shout out to Internal Bleeding.. the Rodney Dangerfield of death metal never getting the respect they deserve

[@nick_kaamos]

Sweet Dokken shirt!!! Also the fist time I heard someone describe themselves as slam was Internal Bleeding in the demo days

[@StuartTurner582]

M.O.D Method of Destruction

[@daviddr115111]

That dokken shirt is sick also!

[@Izzy-r1s4c]

My cousin actually is behind the cameras! he posted on his insta story earlier! His name is Jerry

[@guillotinedeath]

Deathrow mention fuck yea!! True old school fan!

[@zenkijoe9022]

Yup. I just started listening to them again too. Some killer riffs there.

[@mark6302]

those guys are fucking awesome

[@takeshelter5313]

I invented slam

[@naturalianoss]

I invented black metal

[@takeshelter5313]

@@naturalianoss that's sad

[@TRENDKILL0]

​@@takeshelter5313lmfaoo

[@off6848]

Suffo had the first slam riff in 1992 with Liege but the first slamming full length were Disgorge(California) Cognitive Lust of Mutilation 1992 and Disgorged(NY) Thy Hideous Wake 1993. Those slam the whole way through.

[@fredsmith5925]

Suffocation didn’t have the first slam riff. Slam has been around under that name since the early 1980s. The album in question came out in 1991, not 1992. And the riff you’re talking about isn’t even Suffocation’s first slam part.

[@off6848]

@@fredsmith5925 okay then who I’m aware of the Demoncy demo that had slammy parts but not like what people mean there was also a band literally called Slam but again not what people are talking about I stand by my comment with the 1991 correction for Liege

[@fredsmith5925]

If Suffocation had the first slam part, how come when that album was released everyone immediately knew that it was a slam if it didn’t already exist? Now define slam….where the word comes from, and what it means as it relates to music….. Now define slam

[@off6848]

@@fredsmith5925 it wasn’t defined that way until Internal Bleeding put out the flyer it’s called retroactive observation in fact the Garza podcast literally just addressed this and he even mentions Demoncy like I did and says exactly that it wasn’t quite the same. I don’t care about one riff though to me slam is a genre and Disgorge Cognitive Lust of Mutilation is the first slam record through and through but I’d love to hear what you think it is

[@fredsmith5925]

Slam was around long before Internal Bleeding put the word on a flyer in 1994. Internal Bleeding know that which is why the guitar player in IB falsely claims he used the word in 1992. I knew these bands back then and I can tell you everyone was using the word slam before IB even formed, which was in 1992, not 1991 like they claim. Now define slam…where the word came from and what it means in this music.

[@WolfOfLosAngeles]

There’s tons of old school Metal bands that could have made are slam

[@nicocann]

Uncle Slam baby

[@brandonharris9160]

Liege of Inveracity by Suffocation is widely regarded as the first example of Slam

[@fredsmith5925]

Only on social media by people who weren’t around back then and don’t know any better.

[@joeyuzwa891]

Suffocation invented the slam riff, pyrexia and internal bleeding made it a genre unto itself

[@off6848]

After years of inquiry I've come to the conclusion that no it was the two Disgorge bands Disgorge and Disgorged that had the first full lengths of nothing but slam in 1992. Cognitive Lust of Mutilation and Thy Hideous Wake. The problem with early Internal Bleeding is that it was kind of technical and noodly at first. Go listen to Thy Hideous Wake there's no noodles only pounding riffs.

[@fredsmith5925]

Suffocation did no such thing. They will tell you that themselves. Now define slam…..where the word came from and what it means as it relates to music?

[@nemanacemu2024]

No one will ever really know……. Metal is world wide.

[@TheHeavyMetalSitdown]

There was one comment in here that pretty much nailed it. Pyrexia, internal bleeding and suffocation started slam

[@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd]

Heavily Influenced, Slam Devourment began Slam.

[@off6848]

@@Elijah-NUMetal-IsMyWife-Boyd Both wrong.

[@fredsmith5925]

No they didn’t.

[@dr.0995]

Internal Bleeding

[@R.Lennartz]

Dokken T shirt, nice

[@sethputnamsghost]

Suffocation, Internal Bleeding, Pyrexia.🤘

[@jessejordan4662]

Suff!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@justinalley3399]

Internal Bleeding Invented Slam

[@fredsmith5925]

No they didn’t.

[@henrydycha9379]

Dying fetus great live band

[@karlsilverone]

Chugs rule.

[@SEANOXXI]

25 Ta Life

[@StringsThatDoom]

Breakdown riff in Liege of Inveracity lol hello!!!

[@kingpriapatius5832]

Chuck Norris is the inventor.

[@rossfree796]

Ingested is the greatest SLAM band ever imo

[@IamMichaellucifer13]

Crushing riffs from Suffocation, were so bad ass and moshy, but the mix of speed and Doom were magical. But why slam, the word,it's moshing regardless, slam was more punk era, then any death metal, at least death pits there were rules and all to help each and be metal at the same time, bands like Pantara had some of the brutal pits many people got hurt, not much being injured at a show, and they were more slam then any death metal bands.

[@Markus-z5u]

Dorito death metal = slam Crunchy

[@NicKara-y2m]

Pantera's domination has the single greatest breakdown section of all time.

[@MossMachine]

@NicKara-y2m nah man, it's great and serves as a great entry point. Future breed machine by meshuggah is alot heavier.

[@mopsandmuscles7855]

@@MossMachine I saw Meshuggah open for Slayer when Future Breed Machine was their latest release. Blew my mind. I miss old Meshuggah. Contradictions Collapse, FBM, and Chaosphere are the albums I like best.

[@alexaltamirano5257]

@@mopsandmuscles7855 ? There's no FBM album. That's the 1st track from the Destroy Erase Improve album which came out in 95. I bought that album in 95' and had a sticker describing the sound as Swedish Power Metal. My favorite album of theirs to this day. Anyway, they toured with Slayer until 99' during the Chaosphere run.

[@mopsandmuscles7855]

@@alexaltamirano5257 embarrassing error for me since I’ve owned the album since 1998 or so 😂

[@Ikebixcezare]

This Love has a pretty sick breakdown too

[@tofusniper]

Internal bleeding

[@TheJordan75]

Didn't Suffocation played a big role? They incorporated NYHC/beatdown elements to death metal.

[@RibeiroGames12]

There wasnt any beatdown bands at that time. And they were inspired by the crossover thrash style like cro mags and agnostic front

[@TheJordan75]

@@RibeiroGames12 Damn you're right. I forgot Effigy of The Forgotten came out in '91

[@off6848]

@@RibeiroGames12 Brutal Truth was around 1990

[@copache]

i thought it just came from indonesia and pf because everyone in america was too pretentious to play anything that sounded good

[@Džejms_Bong]

For whom the bell tolls is the first slam DM riff. Prove me wrong.

[@TRENDKILL0]

LOL I've always loved that riff and never heard it like that, but now...

[@mordtefpv5896]

Baphomet !!

[@Durkhead]

I thought they were gona talk about slam metal?

[@okthisisepic6273]

they talked about its origins and influences

[@NewYorkDetective]

You could go back even further with bands like KISS and Sabbath

[@snakefinger]

How the fucKKK was this about king diamond ? CLICK BAIT !

[@RibeiroGames12]

because the band had some palm muted riffs and breakdowns

[@okthisisepic6273]

listen to Sleepless Nights at 2:50 its fucking heavy

[@pestilentdeath5814]

slam is one of the gayest subs of metal

[@Dieafreak]

No mention of New York/Jersey hardcore/ beatdown hardcore? Which came before slam and slam death metal bands draw influence from that because most of the slam bands were from Jersey and New York originally and were highly influenced by the hardcore and beatdown hardcore of their states. I mean most slam and early slam came outta beatdown hardcore/ hardcore punk scene or where part of that scene prior to the creation of slam.

[@juliom3552]

@@Dieafreak Agnostic Front and Madball are mentioned among others. SOD also.

[@Dieafreak]

@@juliom3552 Where? I don’t remember hearing them but then again, I was doing something while listening to this.

[@saltpepper7123]

Slams were originated in heavy metal and thrash metal and then got incorporated into death metal buy suffo and into hardcore but metalcore/beatdown bands