I am grateful there are still humans on this earth.
@m1265228 күн бұрын
Its just a shame so many of them vote and do as they're told.... very disappointing species. Its time we stopped deluding our selves, being human is not a mark of "humanity", calling these doctors human is insulting given it's the human race that keeps facilitating these abominations... Free Palestine, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Africa, Asia, South America from zionism and american "democracy"... free the world 🍉🇵🇸🏴
@AuditivDJ28 күн бұрын
Thank you 🇮🇱❤
@m1265228 күн бұрын
@@jaredno shame they're mostly voters and support genocide by proxy 🙄
@toydigger27 күн бұрын
Still, many zionist, especially zionist Christians are making all kind of excuses to say what happens in Gaza is good
@13Berzerker26 күн бұрын
@@AuditivDJ Thanking Israel for Occupation Apartheid & Genocide ?
@alexanderschweiger588229 күн бұрын
As an ID specialist further specialized in Infection Prevention I can‘t understand how simple things like clean water, food, disinfectants, antibiotics, sterile goods or at least enough energy to sterilize by themselves are blocked by Israel. These simple things may save more lives than a lot of other material and is not dual use. IMHO this is a crime against humanity.
@GazaHolocaust29 күн бұрын
It's not just an opinion. This is what it is. The US will happily continue anyway
@LiseWrigley29 күн бұрын
That is why they won't let aid in. They want Palestinians to suffer as much as possible. Israel is very very very sick in the head.
@sarahpengelly843929 күн бұрын
It's obvious to you as a medical professional but everyone else can now see this too. Blocking all these essentials is absolutely intentional. Yet our Western governments remain silent. Please spread the message & encourage others to look at independent news channels. The real story is not being told by our main stream media at all.
@kipkak8027 күн бұрын
it's in GAZA at every border crossing (at least, with Israel. eeuh Egypt?...gonna aid those civilians any time soon?), but not picked up by aid organisations/ hamas steals it from trucks
@alexanderschweiger588227 күн бұрын
@@kipkak80 Are you talking about these 30-50 trucks entering Gaza as > 500 were needed? Or those which are blocked by Israeli settlers on their way to Gaza. These are verified numbers, in contrast to the claims that Hamas steals everything… that is primarily Hasbara.
@Reina.NijinskyАй бұрын
Ty to MSF and all the brave doctors & nurses 🙏🏼
@JDshao29 күн бұрын
So done with the injustice. We’ve screamed, cried, mobilised, and they’re not listening to us. But we’re not giving up. Until my dying breath I’ll use my voice on this.
@donnavorce885629 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@LiseWrigley29 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@jaynfontain663528 күн бұрын
you use your voice while they use their fists
@shawnbarron245524 күн бұрын
Your voice does nothing, your side is losing badly.
@JDshao24 күн бұрын
@@shawnbarron2455 Fantastic input Shawn, thanks for gloating about massacre. Get lost.
@andypitt2848Ай бұрын
Thank you MSF 🕊️
@ahmadali-pu5qnАй бұрын
Thank you for your bravery and dedication to humanity Karin
@karlscher517028 күн бұрын
Can you take her in your country?
@13Berzerker26 күн бұрын
@@karlscher5170 Hasbara paid We stand with Palestine ♥
@lawrencemullin2643Ай бұрын
Thank you to Doctors without Borders (You do God's work- the work of love).
@wheatthicksАй бұрын
Utterly gut wrenching.
@ابولفضلجهانی-ص2و29 күн бұрын
😢🎉😢
@azalia42321 күн бұрын
The depravity of the colonizers and their supporters is unfathomable.
@malgosianowak23 күн бұрын
This is absolutely heartbreaking. Thank you for all your sacrifice. I pray for this suffering Nation.
@amethystgenerallyАй бұрын
Thank you Doctors Without Borders for all the important humanitarian and life-saving work that you do. I cannot comprehend how these international crimes against humanity and war crimes are able to continue on with support from some countries. It is against human rights and international law for all of this to be continuing. This must stop and more people should stand in solidarity with the Palestinian people. Save Gaza! Save the Children!
@helmutzeitlbergerАй бұрын
Save the HOSTAGES!
@mtracy24429 күн бұрын
@@helmutzeitlberger my comment has been deleted. I am anti-genocide, maybe that's why. ...
@Badgerbeard20 күн бұрын
@@helmutzeitlberger ..........from Netenyahu!
@UmmWalad29 күн бұрын
Thank you Nurse Huster and all MSF staff for your humanity
@ayaeed109427 күн бұрын
People like this make me restore faith in humanity
@michellenorris847129 күн бұрын
My daughter's best friend, a Nurse who specialises in midwifery, will join 'Doctors Without Borders' in January 2025 to help in the war effort in Sudan. Thank you for your bravery & hard work.
@shalahuddinumar338624 күн бұрын
Please Give her many thanks, I pray she and all the medical volunteers gets back home safe and sound
@michellenorris847123 күн бұрын
@@shalahuddinumar3386 Thank you, I will speak to them tomorrow morning & I will relay your admirable work & message.
@hussanaful5 күн бұрын
It takes a certain type of person to do this... Sending love
@aye367829 күн бұрын
Pure evil. I can't imagine what kind of human being can sleep at night after commiting such heinous crimes. Thank you for speaking out.
@namiral-mashta226829 күн бұрын
Can not find proper words to describe my gratitude for this saint women❤ Doctor Karin thank you so much for your work, for your courage, for your humanity!
@Lovewins035629 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤ 🇵🇸 Gaza is still bleeding 😢
@WildAmbo29 күн бұрын
You are a great lady Karin, you have been so brave and it must have been a hopeless situation for all those that are treating the Palestinians.
@rocksrule1729 күн бұрын
Thank you for your kind service.
@wiosna10229 күн бұрын
The enslaved,terribly oppressed ,suffering for over 76 years Palestinian people are completely alone and abandoned to be devoured by one of the greatest,cruelest barbarian in the history of mankind. Anyone who is a slave has the right to fight to regain freedom,peace,justice,equality, security,human rights and stolen land and the whole world should help them to achieve these goals. Only a few,extraordinary people tell the truth about their endless,terrifying tragedy and bravely,constantly stand up for them. I admire and thank you for your attitude in defense of terribly suffering Palestinian people and the highest values. You are an incredibly brave , extraordinary person with the most valuable qualities.
@yurinator638027 күн бұрын
Not entirely true. Israelis are open to a two state-solution but Palestinians still want one-state solution what only brings pain to themselfes
@wiosna10227 күн бұрын
@ I recommend the best lessons of Norman Finkelstein, Ilan Pappe, John Mearsheimer,Jeffrey Sachs,Chris Hedges ,Max Bloomenthal and few others
@yurinator638027 күн бұрын
@@wiosna102 I recommend you to visit Israelis and Palestinians and ask the people that have to live under constant fear
@suezen58625 күн бұрын
Well said . ❤ free palestine 🇵🇸
@DaylightFactory21 күн бұрын
@@yurinator6380the Israelis passed a resolution in the Knesset in July 2024 calling the establishment of a Palestinian state an “existential threat” so it doesn’t seem like they are as open to the idea as you claim.
@melissabruhn142927 күн бұрын
Thank you DWB/ MSF workers for all you do!!! Thank you for soeaking up in these even more dire times. Please try to get published ...we need record.and you are an important firsthand witness. 💔
@katewilson31929 күн бұрын
I don't know what would be adequate to say.....but thank you and to all the others who offer help and humanity in this horror.
@MomoBar9129 күн бұрын
My country Germany denies the evacuation of children to Germany with an adult/ guardian. Several organisations provided the money, would have taken care of everything but the government says it is a security risk if the child is accompanied by a relative, they expect small children to come to Germany alone without a person they know and who could be helpful in their recovery. It´s just inhumane. As a nurse myself I´m really disgusted by my governments stands. I know how important it is for the recovery that patients and especially traumatized children have a good support system. And these are the same politicians who ignore the reports of MSF or every doctor/ medical group from germany that was in G.
@myrinesee237629 күн бұрын
Our goverment wants these children to die bc theyre in support of israels genocide in Gaza
@LiseWrigley29 күн бұрын
Sadly Germany always seems to be on the wrong side of history.
@inessachse891629 күн бұрын
Ich bin genauso entsetzt wie Sie! Ich schäme mich für unsere Regierung!!! @@LiseWrigley
@sarahpengelly843929 күн бұрын
Indeed Germany has lost its bearings. It seems to be very toxic now. I know a Palestinian living there whose family is stuck in Gaza & he is desperate to go & live elsewhere now. And who would blame him?
@sarahpengelly843929 күн бұрын
All Western nations are beginning to put pressure on the protests. Here in NL three were arrested for wearing a kuffiyeh the other day!! And no doubt you've heard about the 'antisemitic' attacks on the vile & violent Israel football fans in Amsterdam recently? The entire incident was wrongly reported by main stream outlets initially. But they were extremely slow to correct their coverage. This continual deference to Israel despite its genocidal intent & actions blows my mind!!!
@karincarl453529 күн бұрын
Thankyou for everything you could do with such bravery & care. You will always be appreciated.❤🎉
@joeb969829 күн бұрын
I have never seen such as this in my lifetime. My country is supporting it directly with money and weapons. These doctors and aid workers and very notably Palestinian journalists are heroes. As for the USA We have lost all credibility we had worldwide. Thank you Doctors Without Borders for what you do!
@GazaHolocaust29 күн бұрын
💯
@azalia42321 күн бұрын
The z 's are in the process of destroying the US.
@maezzologymedia1420 күн бұрын
oooh... So YOU are the genius here, who will just swing by the commentsection and come up with at plan for peace in the middle east? I doubt that ! As long as these two cultures / people live side by side, there will be no peace ever. The only solution is to have one of them not be there, but, the other surrounding countries, who shares the culture of gaza, they will not take in a single one? Why? This could all be resolved if they would take the people, Isreal can become a safe place to live, and then we just need all these countries to stop attacking other nations. But that will never happen, will it?
@vanessac196529 күн бұрын
Every day my heart is broken again seeing this holocaust. Bless you angels of mercy.
@annaeveline881417 күн бұрын
You should use your brain. "Palestinian" leader Amin Husseini & MANY others had a STRONG bond to Nazi-Germany from 1933. As Islamo-fascists he & hundreds others were 1941-45 in Germany busy going after Jews. It was NEVER about land or a state, ALL these Islamo-fascists want (->ALL charters of "Palestinians" and Iranian proxis) is the death of ALL 1) Jews 2)infidels in the ENTIRE world. Israel has the FAR LOWEST civilian : combattant casualty figure ever in any war ever ! ALL deaths in this conflict are the blame of Hemes !
@ourallabrador4023Ай бұрын
Thank you ❤❤❤
@teresavarghese117727 күн бұрын
Thank you doctor for the help you rendered to those who were in need and especially for the little two year old child.
@fredsimmons279322 күн бұрын
Your brave testimony Karin and the work you and Doctors without Borders do will someday help bring Israel to justice.
@BonnieM-y4p29 күн бұрын
God bless you and your work, doctor. A spark of Light in this darkness. 🙏
@fitzroyburnett613929 күн бұрын
You are all selfless, Heroes risking your lives to save others. Nothing is greater or more noble. Thank you all, God bless you all .
@ismaileplays7136Ай бұрын
Real heros are the ones who are saving the lives of Palestinians. Thankyou for your service
@annaeveline881429 күн бұрын
The casualty numbers are MUCH MUCH HIGHER in Yemen. Same in Sudan. All the nutters here DON'T care. HIM IS is responsible for EACH DEATH in this conflict ANT THE MAJORITY of Gazans, which support them.
@holistichealernewsblog28 күн бұрын
saving the lives of Arabs? there are two billion of them, only 5 million Israelis Jews, Don't mess with God chosen people , the Jews are the Palestine the Arabs are the colonizers learn history
@sparklemotion837726 күн бұрын
The Palestinians who risk their lives and stay behind. These Western doctors are just using Gaza like the IOF, for training.
@Myriam-n2k26 күн бұрын
Les ukrainiens sont des anges Obama l’état profond gauchiste islamiste à détruit l’Ukraine 🇺🇦 les palestiniens ne sont pas tous des anges 😇 une ex apostat musulmane Free Free France 🇫🇷
@rigellion471919 күн бұрын
You are the problem of this world
@kenniamd213627 күн бұрын
The medical workers who help patients in gaza are rrue heores, including you Karin , respect
@GoodByePorkPie-e7wАй бұрын
It’s unbelievable that the disgusting truth of this genocide is ignored by world leaders. They are cowards not standing up to US and Israel. And she’s a hero❣️🇵🇸🕊️
@MAK10pАй бұрын
Every human beeing cries withnessing such horror 😢
@annadedorson6322Ай бұрын
Sadly- What we see is the crimes against human beings being stripped of all humn rights and status as human beings. Perpetrated by people who lost theirs in hate.Those numb and passive: Are guilty.
@alpinwolf175229 күн бұрын
Not IDF members, singing in Amsterdam and violating human rights law....
@MAK10p29 күн бұрын
@@alpinwolf1752 I don't see the error in my statement. Could you please show me?
@ChrisAlbertH4729 күн бұрын
Except Izraelis
@alpinwolf175228 күн бұрын
@MAK10p ..don't understand even your own commemt?
@Carmuska7229 күн бұрын
Gracias¡ Formáis parte de lo mejor del mundo y ayudaís a mantener la esperanza cuando todo cae alrededor ❤
@hintermwaldbauer29 күн бұрын
Alle Menschen die diese Rettungsarbeit tun sind die größten Held/inn/en in Gaza.
@mosaomer4100Ай бұрын
Thanks for msf me psychologist from Sudan (west Darfur) EG 🇸🇩🇸🇩🇸🇩🇸🇩gaz and Sudan the are past war and I hope and ask allah to stop 🛑 war as soon as possible in shallah 🤲🇸🇩
@mariabagnoli86828 күн бұрын
This wonderful woman should be on the headline news telling us what's happening.
@karlscher517028 күн бұрын
You and her should emigrate to lslamic countries.
@Kipod200027 күн бұрын
She is a liar.
@bpeters275628 күн бұрын
thanks for standing up for the people! Your bravery is a huge inspiration to me!🙏
@ebobby876929 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for this detailed statement, the world must know the truth of these crimes. Thank you for your courage and never giving up on being human and sensitive to people who are suffering extremely. I no longer understand the world and that there are people who can act in such inhumane ways and have no respect for human life. It's despairing.
@ChooseCompassion28 күн бұрын
I witness every day and I cry every day and I scream every day. I’m so grateful for all the people from around the world that were able to come and help as long as they could and pray for those families who lost their loved ones who were just trying to be helpful.
@fatmakaradag3011Ай бұрын
Ohhh is am glad, i came across to this channel. ❤🥰
@debraone29 күн бұрын
And it is still going on....absolutely inhumane
@ShiningStarsOfficial7718 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your true words with the World
@user-xv7eg27 күн бұрын
It's so sad, that I have no words instead of leaving a commets for KZbin algorithm, so more people can see this and probably get an idea of what is happening there. Thank you!
@jw-ru7nz22 күн бұрын
Thank you also for letting people post in support of Palestinians here, millions around the world support you 🇺🇸 ❤️
@yhamilajojo884729 күн бұрын
What can we do with Israel??? We have been crying since we were 3 and so... Our lives had been under this aggressive culture, so unhearted.. Thank you for telling the world... Thank you beloved
@pinaagostino900329 күн бұрын
The cruelty!!!!!! Unhuman
@louisjeandin197029 күн бұрын
Just commenting for the algorithm with some more content... Really sad testimony
@erikpeterson2526 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.....it takes incredible strength to witness the atrocities while at the same time doing their best to help the victims....heros without guns
@deniseashton699429 күн бұрын
These dr's, nurse's humanitarian workers as well as the children 😢are earth angels 😇 😢 Please God save them all 🙏🙏💌🇦🇺🫂💔 and free Palestine 🇵🇸 🙏 it's homicidal genocide on a massive scale not seen in my lifetime that needs to STOP!!!!! and its heartbreaking, demoralising, no dignity the list goes on and on. Human beings that are complicit are in my eyes and heart are truly evil. Thank you for the many, many supporters of the Palestinian people we won't give up
@NadiaNaji-h1e20 күн бұрын
Truly heart breaking 😢
@kautharali701827 күн бұрын
Thank you for your courage and service and compassion. May God protect and bless you and your colleagues. You are the frontline witnesses.
You are the real heroes of this inhumane world! Thank you for everything you have done for these people. May god protect you and your family ♥️♥️
@Athome45229 күн бұрын
The world has failed humanity😭😭😭, the world must stop the criminal state.
@daisylovett28 күн бұрын
Bless you❤️
@7mkhan928 күн бұрын
May god bless you and protect you , Thank you for your bravery and dedication to humanity Karin I am grateful there are still humans on this earth.
@susantunbridge461227 күн бұрын
Praise for this heroic woman who is trying to cope with the horrendous death toll. The children suffer most, aged 5 to 9 in particular. I can’t understand such inhumanity.
@theobserver848529 күн бұрын
PLEASE STOP HELL ON EARTH. Where are, US, EU , & The world??😢😢💔💔
@salam-sl9ob26 күн бұрын
😢
@saraimare211528 күн бұрын
Ihr seid Zeitzeugen dieses Horrors. Ihr Mut ist beispiellos . Meine grenzenlose Hochachtung an das ganze Team und Licht der Hoffnung für die Menschen in Gaza. Alle Ehre 🌹
@hoppechr26 күн бұрын
Nein, sie lässt sich ohne Not vor den Karren einer der brutalsten und korruptesten Terrororganisationen spannen. Sie versteht gar nichts. Hat Ärzte ohne Grenzen versucht, die Geiseln zu versorgen, die von der Hamas seit über einem Jahr in Tunneln gehalten werden? Nein! Die Hamas hat am 07.10.2023 einen Krieg gegen die israelische Zivilbevölkerung begonnen. Man kann nicht einen Krieg beginnen und die Gegenwehr dann als Kriegsverbrechen anprangern. Israel hat jedes Recht sich zu verteidigen. Und es tut sehr viel mehr zum Schutz und zur Unterstützung der Zivilbevölkerung als es müsste. Dies (!) kostet Israel an jedem verdamnten Tag 1-2 Soldaten/-innen, viele von ihnen
@adventurersclub1Ай бұрын
Why doesn't anyone give Netanyahu a "united healthcare" treatment?
@emiliennebarret615015 күн бұрын
Commençons par mettre très rapidement ce monstre hors d'état de nuire !!!
@A.A-e9u29 күн бұрын
You are a hero ❤
@mideastgirl892629 күн бұрын
watching this evil actions nonstop changed the world. everybody who tries to justify this is guilty too.
@AlessandraMinardi-v9xАй бұрын
❤🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@myrazga289829 күн бұрын
Ça fait froid dans le dos. Quel monde de fous !
@marguerX29 күн бұрын
Thank you deeply for your service, and sharing the horror.
@sene840629 күн бұрын
❤ Thank u
@joeb969829 күн бұрын
An immediate multinational humanitarian airlift is what’s needed. It was done in Berlin after the war it can be done in Gaza. The US Military has the capability and authority and obligation to do this. We can set up an airstrip almost anywhere and easily provide the needed security to evenly distribute supplies and provide medical attention. The children must be evacuated! Why are they just doing occasional airdrops over the sea!!!! If this was Europe we would bring all our resources to help. It’s disgraceful. I’m ashamed of my country. Thank you to Doctors Without Borders for doing what they can
@barbarawilletts763Ай бұрын
I meant the Israel's I'm a donor to MSF I support them and the Palestinians people
@angelasingh155427 күн бұрын
Thank you MSF for your work. Thank you to this amazing human for dedicating your life to helping the most vulnerable. (You are taking a big risk just being there as Israel has targeted medical facilities and medics). I've been a monthly donor of MSF for 15 years and I encourage others to give what they can to help sustain this lifesaving work.
@nooshinmotalebi29 күн бұрын
"ايها الحزن الم تؤلمك ركبتيك من اجثو فوق صدورنا؟"
@AzizaSayed-n5l29 күн бұрын
Thx for information standing up against injustice from South Africa 🙏
@margaritayuste4377Ай бұрын
😔
@brehgankage624227 күн бұрын
Thank you for your service and for speaking the truth.
@cherylsibson252926 күн бұрын
Thankyou for your bravery, do take care of yourself!
@JEX-w5h29 күн бұрын
This is painful to listen to let alone live through. This doctor and all the doctors, medical staff, ambulance drivers and truck drivers are the bravest souls. I have made several donations to Doctors w/out borders but will make another tomorrow. Please donate! Please!
@noursamar850829 күн бұрын
Karin, vous êtes lumineuse ❤️
@maurarodrigues134829 күн бұрын
Obrigada,you are my hero,
@barbarawilletts763Ай бұрын
They have no soul
@Haqeeqi-azadi-hh8xiАй бұрын
My friend please be specific while commenting, otherwise zionist will portray that "they" is pointing to Palestinians or MSF, while i am sure you described Israel/Israelis
@NIV-55-u4t29 күн бұрын
Can you explain why Hamas didn't release all the hostages after a week...a month...two months just to stop the war? Why does it continue to hold them when so many children are being killed in Gaza?
@gavinkalaher731429 күн бұрын
@@NIV-55-u4tjust to clarify, Hamas offered to release all of the civilian hostages on 9th October 2023, but Netanyahu declined. As published in the Times of Israel 26 April 2024 "‘No doubt’ N--------u preventing hostage deal, charges ex-spokesman of Families Forum."
@mtracy24429 күн бұрын
@@NIV-55-u4t.... can you explain why plstn was forced to live under oppressive torture for so many deck aids?! ... ... Vicious
@GazaHolocaust29 күн бұрын
Yes & US...
@karimanoorstani39329 күн бұрын
Ya Allah gave my brothers and sisters of فلستین Freedom my heart is broken 😢for them 💔
@mouna379527 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying the truth
@ابولفضلجهانی-ص2و29 күн бұрын
😢
@CharlieWho-q8l28 күн бұрын
Bless you ❤❤ I think so many of us feel the same
@angelikakhalyfa28 күн бұрын
Ich habe großen Respekt vor eurer Arbeit. Vielen Dank! Möge der allmächtige Gott euch reichlich dafür belohnen.
@0804787026 күн бұрын
thank you for reporting
@User2024-dx6eh27 күн бұрын
You & alike are unsung heroes! Thank you for helping Palestinians 🙏🏻♥️
@je.sy.29 күн бұрын
So heartbroken 😭😭😭😭😭
@animalunit29 күн бұрын
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@cometmoon448528 күн бұрын
Huge respect for you.
@kimwood274622 күн бұрын
Absolutely hart breaking there's no justification for such evil. Every life is precious I wish there was another way
@lmarchand852616 күн бұрын
Thank you Nurse Huster, thank you MSF, you have always been there, since I was a kid. The whole thing is absurdly horrific, but not letting patients leave when there is an offer of foreign help, for me, really clinches the proof that I--el is lying about its true objective.
@moniquevaillant216825 күн бұрын
We cry whit you 😢
@mahfouzahmadi15326 күн бұрын
❤ merci ❤. Madame
@prinsespluis24 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this testimony. We're easily inclined to turn our heads from misery, in order to avoid harm. But with regards to current affairs many of us are willing to carry a small portion of this burden in order to firm our opinion and witness to testify. There is no" wir haben es nicht gewußt" Justice will prevail And no to divide& conquer 1 for ❤ 1 in solidarity 1 for peace and humanity
@vorname87927 күн бұрын
I have no words…
@donnavorce885629 күн бұрын
.Expropriation was always the plan. Herzl wrote about it clear back in 1895 It was never a secret. Their leaders reiterate it constantly.
@adrianabotello991129 күн бұрын
Israel has yet to offer a real 2-state solution, but as you say, never was the plan to do so.
@SuperDafnou28 күн бұрын
you are lying
@adrianabotello991128 күн бұрын
@@SuperDafnou@SuperDafnou Nope, the Suez Canal has been part of the plan since the beginning. Colonization.
@IIst-or4mt29 күн бұрын
How can this happen? Save the Palestinians now!!!!
@annaeveline881429 күн бұрын
That's a FAKE identity made up in 1964 by EGYPTIAN Arafat. Arabs belong to the Arab peninsula. The Jews are INDIGENOUS to JUDÄA/ALL Israel.
@jhegre28 күн бұрын
@@annaeveline8814 BS, most "israelis" are from western europe and the USA. Stop lying.