Me too! I get a kick out of solving these problems in a creative and imaginative way and I love that first rain when I get to text the homeowner and see how things are working.
@dcwshoreline54163 жыл бұрын
Me aswell! Shawn gets the job done right with his crew!
@charlesviner15653 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@JoshMiller33 жыл бұрын
I watch these for the follow up at the end.
@TSBOFRLM2 жыл бұрын
Me too. They don’t make many like like him anymore unfortunately. He’s a rare breed.
@norcaltrav3 жыл бұрын
I like seeing the system actively draining after the install, a lot people don’t show that part.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
It's my favorite part!
@stephenbrian45913 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@mattc57913 жыл бұрын
I'm from the IT world, and my job can be very complex, but I enjoy seeing ANY problem solved by using a thoughtful, analytical approach... Shawn, your are clearly a professional who takes pride in his work, and solves some pretty nasty issues with 'smarts', very hard-work and what looks like a great crew. Everyone should aspire to do a job correctly the first time and to the satisfaction of the client. You do it every time...Congratulations!
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support Matt! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos! - Shawn
@gregsettle97253 жыл бұрын
Yes, being from IT myself I concur that these videos are a pleasure to watch!
@slip0n0fall3 жыл бұрын
Best part of your videos it the follow-ups. I'm always amazed at how much water you get under control - great to see it in action.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My customers say they are mesmerized by the outfalls during the rain and they look forward to rain again.
@abhizylo3 жыл бұрын
This channel along with post10... Makes em feel good. Always admire water flowing into gutters when it rains... Living in hilly areas in an urban setting but still like to see water going into drains .... Oddly satisfying.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! Thank you for watching! - Shawn
@charlesviner15653 жыл бұрын
I did waterproofing for 20 years and I like watching someone else do the same thing. Thanks and like 👍
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting Charles! - Shawn
@michaelroth34713 жыл бұрын
Love that you get back to check the effectiveness of your work, well done sir!
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It's my favorite part!
@gregsettle97253 жыл бұрын
I learn something from every one of these videos I watch on this channel! Well done!
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the channel!
@robert53 жыл бұрын
Just bought a house that has this drive way drain issue. It was called out by my home inspector so I put in a credit request to fix it and the seller agreed. I'll be putting in mine all the way across in front of the garage and also putting in a heat cable to unfreeze it in winter when it goes into freeze thaw mode and fills up with ice. Showing this video to my wife so she understands.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I hope she likes the video!
@politic173 жыл бұрын
As always, great job. PS: 10 months to post a video?!!, you are a very rare person on this earth, and I thank God that there are still people like you giving us so much hope and LOVE.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@seanobrien77513 жыл бұрын
i just finished my awesome new drainage system around my entire house thanks so much for all the knowledge! BTW as you see I'm still watching your vids LOL!
@ianwright65023 жыл бұрын
I always feel like it's a shame your piping has to be buried. It's like artwork the way you and your crew fit that all together.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
haha at least it can live on via youtube! And we know that pipe is working tirelessly moving water.
@tnt666tnt3 жыл бұрын
hahah I agree with you ian
@chrisurwin93103 жыл бұрын
Looks better buried. Pipes above ground looks fugly...tripping all over the place too. Wish the neighbour put in a little cash in to have a french drain on the property line.
@timlewis50963 жыл бұрын
really enjoy your solutions. Giving me plenty of ideas. I've learnt enough to become dangerous. Good thing I'm on first name basis with my plumber / landscaper You and yours, keep happy, healthy and coming up with innovative solutions
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim! Thanks for watching - Shawn
@Slugbunny2 жыл бұрын
Surprised by the lack of drainage on many lots. Looks like all the trouble spots got taken care of, nice work with what was available!
@revtmyers13 жыл бұрын
I've noticed a few times how there's soil on some of the videos all the way up to the brick. I'm assuming that they must do it differently in that area because usually there are weep holes at the base course to allow moisture to flow out from behind the brick as well as air to flow in and help dry it out.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
The weep holes are usually on the interior so that bugs don't clog them up.
@brucehobbs17342 жыл бұрын
Love this format!
@Stratos531003 жыл бұрын
Finally watching this one, That is a Huge amount of water going into that Basin. The customer could also use a Pavement spray cleaning to clean up those bricks on the back
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@chihweihuang34513 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I was asking what would you do to replace pop-up and you mentioned to use riprap. This video just shows me an example on your riprap work. Thank you !
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking about that! It's important to keep the pipe unimpeded so the debris blows out of it.
@paradise57933 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. You and your crew do great work. I’m a landscaper for 35 years and have done many drainage jobs like you and I have found using a rubber mallet works good to tap the fittings into the pipe well once you put glue on. Just my 2 cents:😀
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Good Idea! Thanks for watching, - Shawn
@rickjames69483 жыл бұрын
Another thing I would do. Paint the new guttering to MATCH the brick. You have white down spouts going down the siding, color matches there. Then then down spout goes over the red brick. No color match there. It will allow the down spouts to blend in and not be such an eye sore. That fresh virgin white on top of that red brick color LOL. As usual, another top quality job by GCFD.
@JosephQPublic3 жыл бұрын
Eh, not when the windows are also white. Not everything has to be color matched.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
The homeowners sometimes paint the piping to match the house or trim. Great comment.
@xavierhenriques11163 жыл бұрын
Yes! New GCF post! Thank you, Shawn Great work, per usual
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thanks for watching Xavier!
@falfield3 жыл бұрын
Good advice re gutter capacity. I also like very much the follow-ups after rain. But there is a puzzle: at 18:00 your 4in pipe (which is delivering the sum of the channel drain and 2 downpipes) is just a trickle, and less volume than we just saw going into the channel drain. So where has the balance gone - is there a leak higher which is contributing to the huge surface water flow?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
No that was the flow coming out of the system. Keep in mind that small amount of water with that much fall is moving very fast. So it's more a measure of speed than volume. We didn't have any pipe higher up either.
@falfield3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD Thanks for the clarification - I get it: twice the flow rate needs half the cross-sectional area. I suppose the thing that surprises me most (I'm from England, and so unused to your local weather/soil conditions) is the huge flows of surface water you seem to get on many of your job-sites after what appears to be pretty modest and non-cataclysmic rainfall. Of course I may have misapprehended, but if not, it must mean impervious surface soils are pretty widespread where you are. Which is great for your business, of course. And continuing high surface runoff will further wash out nutrients and further impoverish topsoil that wasn't great to start with. Do you ever recommend saw-tooth trenching around the contours to enhance soaking-in of surface water? It's commonly used on cultivated hillsides to conserve both topsoil and irrigation water in Mediterranean countries.
@galady86323 жыл бұрын
Well done indeed!
@timgarner67683 жыл бұрын
Where you put the outfall would be a perfect location for a rain garden!
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes!
@tuomasholo3 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised the neighbor doesn't mind the drain and deck water emptying in his yard.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
That water flows to the street and doesn’t cause any issues, fortunately!
@robertgregory26183 жыл бұрын
Just a thought. Wouldn't it be better to cut exactly to channel size and then caulk with special water proof flexible caulking to make water tight access to the grill. It seems the way it is now water is mostly falling into the crack between the concrete and the channel. I see some coming in but mostly at one point in the section. Another way would to be to leave a 1/2 inch on each side and then put in a special concrete caulking to hold everything tight and water proof. IMHO...Love your coming back to show results. Nobody else does much of that...
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert I think that would work too. You'd have to have one heck of an accurate saw to cut that close. I'm not that good so I'm stuck stuffing concrete into it. Keep in mind that crack doesn't go all the way through the concrete so it eventually fills in and water skips over it. Great comment!
@Mark.Watson3 жыл бұрын
Good that they took down the tree so it won't clog up the new gutters.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Haha I was wondering if anyone would notice! Ug, it took me so long to get back out there....
@mshilko3 жыл бұрын
Wish you guys were in Kansas City! I need some work done.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@hj8607 Жыл бұрын
If you have ever lived in the gutter you know quality is an unexpected luxury.
@steventhury83663 жыл бұрын
You should have cut a wider trench for the floor drain. The channel drain also needs concrete support underneath it
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Yet it's holding up just fine.
@robl.97583 жыл бұрын
So happy to see your channel grow! (I was one of your first 100 subscribers....yeah, I'm bragging) Your editing skill is definitely improving and the time and effort you are putting into your videos shows. Keep up the good work, and let me know if you ever open a location in Knoxville, I'll be your first customer.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob! Feel free to brag! I appreciate your support! I've been enjoying prioritizing the video production more when on the job and after. I'm glad to hear I'm improving.
@weekendhomeprojects3 жыл бұрын
I was admiring the Tulip poplar at @15:46, but noted it was too close to the house. Now @20:15 it's gone. RIP Tulip Tree
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
LOL I was wondering if anyone would notice that! I didn't notice while I was on site but did when making the video.
@jjime11753 жыл бұрын
If that sump pump line needs to discharge into that drain line it will cause a back up if there is water flowing in the drain line, it’s like a freeway if on ramps just dumped traffic into the main flow it will cause a back up and accidents that why freeways have long on ramps to blend the flow of traffic and drain lines need the same flow to not create resistance for other lines that drop into the main line.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We haven't seen that happening. I suspect the 4" line is more than enough to accommodate the discharge.
@david-breitenfeld3 жыл бұрын
also the sump pump causes a lot of pressure to force the water out at a high fast pace.
@david-breitenfeld3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD I would suggest using a 4 in. x 4 in. x 2 in. PVC DWV 45-Degree All Hub Wye instead of a 90, as i would use the force of the sump pump high water pressure force to help clean out the 4" main line. It is like having a small pressure "washer" for that long run.
@edttt44913 жыл бұрын
It's crazy seeing how much water there is in a yard
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too. Who would have guessed it?
@rickjames69483 жыл бұрын
What's with the hay drop after you back fill the trench? Do you add grass seed there? Nice job catching the guttering fail. That needs 4" down spouts and a lot of them LOL.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Yes we seed and straw all disturbed soil.
@joeshmoe77892 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you'll be back to run that last leader to the drain. That pipe dumping into the neighbor's yard can become an issue down the road.
@GCFD2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a possibility.
@williambradford64493 жыл бұрын
love your videos. Perhaps I missed it, do you recommend 3" or 4" piping for the in ground exiting of gutter wash?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We used only 4" for the increased volume for debris to flow out. 👍
@Duerke3 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@boaz20012 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@tnt666tnt3 жыл бұрын
Just rocking with uploads last few days! :) looks great.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Yea I need the rain for the after-footage! Usually I have a coupe videos that are ready and waiting for that rain footage.
@weejohnbb3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD just like your audience, ready and waiting for those rain shots.
@Landofmagic6783 жыл бұрын
You do such a good job! You're growing quick! just remember i was here before 1k lol
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I won't forget! Thanks for your support!
@chucksmith1553 жыл бұрын
Shawn how far into the ground do you need to run your pipe off the gutters
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
You need to run the outfall to a place where the water is completely gone from the equation.
@tucobenedicto1093 жыл бұрын
On the channel drain do you go down 9" or just enough to have some clearnace in the bottom. If you do the 9" do you use pavers as filler. Nice using the mortar! Have you used a 90 degree corner?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We use angular gravel under the channel and compact it with a sledge hammer. I try to avoid 90 degree elbows because they restrict the flow more than a smaller angle elbow. Thanks for the comment!
@tucobenedicto1093 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD a 90 degree NDS channel.
@shanesnouffer19773 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, you do really good work from what I can see. You also do a really good before and after shot. My only thing that I can say is when you tap into an existing drainage culvert that after your done working on that catch basin maybe take a broom and a shovel and clean the catch basin out of old mud,dirt,trash, ect. And also what ever mud,dirt,trash,ect that you or your employees knock into the catchbasin. Not a big deal but if your goal is to help standing water flow out and away from your customers house driveway or yard then it defeats the purpose if you leave dirt,mud,trash,ect to eventually clogg up the catch basins. Or pipes. Just a small Critique that's all, I mean no harm and am complimenting your work, you do awesome work and you know what your doing. And alittle bit of dirt or mud probably isn't that big adeal but why leave it to chance when it takes 2 minutes to ensure a very happy customer everytime. Best wishes great job love the content and channel keep it up buddy.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@JosephQPublic3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see any trash? Maybe some mud, but it’s outside in the elements - there’s bound to be mud and yard debris that flows into these drainage systems if they’re open...
@marccole83453 жыл бұрын
How far does your company travel? Southern Maine?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We don't quite make it to ME. Thanks for watching Marc!
@mattcollins9733 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Have a project similar but smaller scale to do. Any reason why the black flex pipe can’t be used instead of all PVC?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
No reason black slinky pipe can't be used: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5OwenWZfNGspas But it shouldn't be, in my opinion
@mattcollins9733 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD thanks. Well if it’s used there has to be a bed or rock underneath it. If that is used I would imagine it would be fine. Just trying to weigh pros and cons. Thanks again
@AW-yv9sq3 жыл бұрын
This would not fly where I am. We have cleanouts or basins at each downspout. Cant run runoff out to property lines. Most of the time we need a rock basin or water garden catch. The concrete finish would get complaints here too. Customers would not want those gutter changes most likely as well. Could step up to larger gutter size and pitch the large section to the right. That channel drain could easily clog because it’s so short in the fall with leaves. All just my observations. It looks like it works but everybody does it different.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! This system has solved the customer's flooded basement for almost a year now. All the debris flows out of the pipes since they are self-cleaning.
@truthseekerKJV3 жыл бұрын
The neighbor doesn't care that they're draining the water onto their property. That will last as long as the neighbor's foundation stays in one piece.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Luckily there is a good swale going to the street that keeps the water away from the neighbor's house.
@VaporheadATC3 жыл бұрын
Or when the neighbor sells the place and the new owners won't accept it.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
@@VaporheadATC that’s a possibility for sure
@toddburnette84173 жыл бұрын
What was the cost of this ?
@sammypollard64603 жыл бұрын
It looks like you got the bull by the bxxxs. Just keep doing what you do best.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sammy!
@dogerman113 жыл бұрын
What's the size of pipe you guys use to connect to gutters?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We use 4" schedule 40 PVC.
@craigh86023 жыл бұрын
So many foundation and basement water intrusion issues are a result of crappy gutters, improperly placed downspouts, and improperly sloped soil grades at the house. As a former Soil Conservationist and hydrologist I can attest how often it happened in construction even in the 1990s. Unbelievable.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting Craig! I try to use good techniques to give water a path of least resistance. I try to use hydrology to my advantage in drainage work.
@deadthem3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend PVC in places with harsh winters, Like New York?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. If it's sloped properly it shouldn't hold water, but you might have some heaving going on.
@weekendhomeprojects3 жыл бұрын
How do you find the gas line without shoveling into it?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We usually did easily and more horizontally than vertically, I'll make sure to show that technique on the next project.
@frenchapple14583 жыл бұрын
Sean: when setting a channel drain in a driveway do you just need to get it level (or to the grade you want) on top of gravel and then pour concrete around it?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Yes, You want it falling slightly and on a bed of gravel. Check my other channel drain videos for more info. Here's one to get you started: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooLUZaCsd7CmgZI We stake the channel drain down with rebar or 12" stakes and then concrete around it with high strength concrete. We make sure our pipe leaving the channel is falling at a full bubble to take whatever it collects away.
@frenchapple14583 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD thanks I want to install one in my driveway and I’m nervous. I’ll check out the video.
@danlux49543 жыл бұрын
What about tripping hazard?
@BrianB144713 жыл бұрын
@@danlux4954 it's flush on top. It's Not a tripping hazard.
@sku329563 жыл бұрын
Maybe put a clean out at each gutter leaves and shit will get in the line , the huge tree next to the house is your main issue need to cut back, the gutters are getting blocked by leaves over flowing at the down spouts ,put the owner on a regular gutter cleaning not twice a year but 6 maybe less /more .
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Yes having the gutters work correctly is a huge part of these systems. My gutter guy always installs gutter guard to help keep the debris out but regular cleaning is critical as well! I use two leaf blowers to clean the gutters. Takes maybe 5 minutes up on the roof.
@weekendhomeprojects3 жыл бұрын
Is calling 811 free? Or do they charge a fee to come out and mark the lines?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
811 is absolutely fantastic. It's free and they cover you. Often, the cable company doesn't bother marking and we cut those lines. They come out and fix for free since we called 811. I hit a gas line that wasn't marked and the gas people came out and fixed it for free (we helped) because he didn't mark it. We call on every project to protect the homeowner and to protect ourselves.
@weekendhomeprojects3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD Any risk of a gas line exploding if you hit it?
@evilevictorhd28633 жыл бұрын
just came across you videos and i like them keep them coming +1 sub
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
@Raffaelo088 ай бұрын
What is the cost for a job ?
@steverusie69863 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up as always! Do you have someone who checks for drainage easements before you start the project?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
No worried about easements here in NC. We're just redirecting rain water that's falling under gravity.
@travlangley13 жыл бұрын
You using a clear glue? Had me thinking you guys are only using primer and no glue
@travlangley13 жыл бұрын
Also, you can’t put San tees in the ground like that...use a wye instead
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We turned the sanitary tee into a combo wye with a street 45. Is what you're talking about?
@JSLEnterprises3 жыл бұрын
Why not keep it clean and not fracture the drainage basin and use a coring diamond bit?
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Because there was already a pipe in there so it wasn't too bad. We core into strong concrete.
@deanneaverth13773 жыл бұрын
that pipe going into the basin should have a flap gate on it so critters dont make a home in there.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I don't do that because I want debris to fall unrestricted from the pipe. The bright white and smooth inside of the pipe is unattractive to critters. Great comment Dean.
@MRM5J3 жыл бұрын
Do you work in Charlotte
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
No we don't travel that far out!
@g.p.38443 жыл бұрын
10:45 Those aren´t quality gutters, try aco powerdrain channel drains, they have iron gutters that will last 40+ years and don´t have to be screwed in.
@gmcjetpilot3 жыл бұрын
Good gosh that lady is anoying... DIY'ed this very job myself this summer. I put channel drain along the patio and two downspout drains all collecting and going to a sump that I installed. I did that along with 48 foot long French drain. The downspout and channel drain pipe run in the same ditch as French drain but are isolated. The two 4" pipes (French and drain) daylight in basin. A lot of work but worth it. Yard dries out quickly after heavy rain and does not get soft. I am dumping onto neighbors property between homes in area he does not use. I plan on extending the pipe about 90 ft to street later.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
That's my lady. She's having a good time on the job.
@johnwaynebrooks3 жыл бұрын
all those big tools and you didnt bury the downspout on the one corner? everything else looked good tho.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Our fall determines if we bury stuff or leave it high to achieve fall.
@johnwaynebrooks3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD I figured, I love how you guys core through the curb and bring pipe through. It's a beautiful detail and I wish I could do that in my local ordinance.
@CristianGonzalez-zn9hk3 жыл бұрын
Me and you together we can work in peace✌️
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
That's Miguel. I wish I had him on more jobs but he mainly works for the concrete guy.
@PuKoh3 жыл бұрын
still seems too short
@travisteeter50723 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the actually clean up their leaves...
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@ShadowLancer1283 жыл бұрын
That guy's gonna need an actual water pump for his drainage because his yard doesn't really grade like it should for a proper French drain.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We didn't install a FD with this system.
@icutepanda999i3 жыл бұрын
Poor ants
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
They flew that day.
@icutepanda999i3 жыл бұрын
@@GCFD 😂😂😂
@cybertroy23 жыл бұрын
That lady is rocking some big beautiful calves
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
I know!
@aaronclark15993 жыл бұрын
Poor neighbors.. 😂😅
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
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@Brian-dw8zg3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you are dumping on neighbors property...I'm sure you had to think on that one for a while...hopefully legal papers are signed in case they have a change of mind.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
No, great neighbors are not that uncommon. The water flows well to the street so no problems.
@MrSouthwestplumber3 жыл бұрын
core drill duh....
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We go back and forth If there's already a hole we often times hammer it. Plus chisels are a lot cheapter than 4.5" core bits.
@bigjock76913 жыл бұрын
I watched lots and thought you did good till i seen that.sad sad sad
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Until you saw what?
@anoopster3 жыл бұрын
Not cool dumping your water into your neighbor's yard. You should have convinced the homeowners to do the right thing.
@anoopster3 жыл бұрын
The neighbor tomorrow can choose to build a wall or berm on that side and all that water will end up in that brick area and dump back into their basement.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for great neighbors.
@thomasheller15262 жыл бұрын
A bit surprised you were ok dumping water on the neighbor. Not a real solution.
@georgemaze79263 жыл бұрын
All that free water going to waste not hervst not even a drop. ...shame.
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
We get over 50" of rainfall here. It does end up in reservoirs for drinking water, or out to sea at the coast.
@JosephQPublic3 жыл бұрын
Good thing there’s a water cycle. No water ever goes to waste.
@MikeZMonroe3 жыл бұрын
I’ll assume the woman in this video sticking out her tongue as a fifth grader on the playground is a relative. Got to say you guys do a great job but immature antics takes away from the serious hard work. In my opinion.....
@GCFD3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike - She's not a relative. She's a worker who is engaging in immature antics because she's happy and enjoying herself on the job. We all have a great time with these projects and enjoy the work. We take the work very seriously, but don't take ourselves too seriously. 👍
@edcannon63922 жыл бұрын
Who is the red haired woman? Some ones wife? Thanks