What other riders have impressive TT positions? Let us know in the comments 👇
@Nerzyster3 жыл бұрын
Primož Roglić 💪💪
@OFFSHOREDOUG3 жыл бұрын
Most of the top ten. Because they have to have good position to put out the power required to push there cda along at a good enough rate to be in the top ten.
@yogatriathlete3 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Kienle
@chrisbaum9983 жыл бұрын
Aston Lambie - 4k IP World record holder(3:59.930) must do doing something right in body positioning.
@ahron_14443 жыл бұрын
dan bigham
@volkervoit3 жыл бұрын
Would be super interesting to compare some of the best Pro TT Cyclist positions to Pro Triathlon TT positions like Jan Frodeno.
@davekelambertus3 жыл бұрын
What about Campenaerts. The hour record holder, despite putting out way less watts than Sir Wiggings
@rob-c.3 жыл бұрын
Was that because of doing it at altitude though, rather than sea level - not to do with being more aerodynamic.
@davekelambertus3 жыл бұрын
@@rob-c. true, but it was the combination of all things, including being very aero
@zrsgamboa3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Bridgewood you seem to have missed these champions of the TT: • Victor Campenaerts • Tom Dumoulin • Rohan Dennis • Fabian Cancellara • Chris Froome • Bradley Wiggins • Dan Bigham (New British Hour Record!!!) • Ellen Van Dijk
@barristerh53793 жыл бұрын
Haha everyone on your list was who I wanted/expected to see compared. They each have their own small position compromises that might be interesting
@Mike03 жыл бұрын
This looks mostly like a list of people who have put out big power while aero, rather people who dont need to put out much power to do the same speed, because they're more aero. Ellen Van Dijk looked the least aero of the top 3 at worlds this year, due to being a taller heavier athlete.
@spencermcgehee36023 жыл бұрын
Bruh froome no way
@mariusbelisle34943 жыл бұрын
@@Mike0 Dan Bigham
@bobfoster6872 жыл бұрын
Lawson Craddock-- US TT Champion
@whatwelearned3 жыл бұрын
The fact Evenepoel can put out so many watts despite being bent like a paperclip and being 5'7 is close to a miracle in my book
@OFFSHOREDOUG3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he needs that much power. He is tiny on that bike. Wonder what his cda is.
@OFFSHOREDOUG3 жыл бұрын
@takotsubo thank you. I def would expect his cda to be near their. Wouldn’t like to judge his power. Def not got big power going by the euros but he can certainly hold it and power to weight seems pretty good too.😂
@homiertcw2 жыл бұрын
@@OFFSHOREDOUG around 0.17
@veganpotterthevegan8 ай бұрын
@@OFFSHOREDOUG he's extremely powerful😂
@afiqmuhammad20343 жыл бұрын
love to see Conor position on TT. Stallion as what Hank call.
@ConsciousBreaks3 жыл бұрын
3:53 "Don't worry about units-there aren't any." Cd"A": Am I joke to you?
@william61713 жыл бұрын
Yeah was thinking the same. Cd has no units. A most definitly has a unit, m^2. CdA's unit is m^2
@micomrkaic3 жыл бұрын
It is just another example of scientific ignorance spread by GCN.
@legrandempereurcosmique51423 жыл бұрын
@@micomrkaic that’s basically what vulgarisation is, not saying it is any good or bad, u just have to do the job urself if u want correct scientific informations
@micomrkaic3 жыл бұрын
@@legrandempereurcosmique5142 Nicely put, you are right.
@t1p1may03 жыл бұрын
How about Stefan Bissegger? I seem to remember hearing how good his CDA was
@chrislevick78372 жыл бұрын
This
@skyscraper59103 жыл бұрын
Remcos performances are a testament to how good he is. His position on the tt bike is a testament to his biology allowing his to be in that position and being able to put down power.
@Kimberlytheresam Жыл бұрын
I am not a Remco fan but his time trial is spectacular. When he passes other riders, he looks sooo aero!
@chrispyy6060606063 жыл бұрын
Love this TT content GCN keep it up! The UCI desperately needs to change the TT file rules, they are borderline unsafe and prevent a ton of triathletes from competing in UCI sanctioned events (which hurts participation in the discipline overall). Even adding +5cm to each of the measurements for extension length would help greatly and revert back to measuring from the axis of the shifter versus the tip. (The existing rule puts those with mechanical shifting at a disadvantage fit wise compared to electronic)
@tomrachellesfirstdance78433 жыл бұрын
You also forgot Remco rode straight into a barrier during a TT. You forgot Si Richardson as well, legend has it takes 4 riders + a pro doing a flat out chain gang to topple him. They had to get a pro as the last attempt someone got dropped within a few minutes 🤔
@landerdumoulin87253 жыл бұрын
In what race did Remco ride into a barrier?
@Mike03 жыл бұрын
Remco has been off the road a few times this year, but Rémi Cavagna is the only one I can remember riding into a barrier during a TT
@remcoevenepoel48723 жыл бұрын
Which barrier? 😂😂😂
@erikdekoster370518 күн бұрын
that was wout van aert.
@PaulTomblin3 жыл бұрын
The first person I remember with the high hands position was Floyd Landis. I remember him getting told to change his handle bar position moments before the start, and I guess they over torqued them or something because he broke his extensions moments after the start and had to get a bike swap.
@robbchastain30363 жыл бұрын
Nice work, Ollie, and for these time trials, I'd like to see a sort of anything goes, speedy racers in their wacky machines, low riders or fully faired or combos of everything. It'd be a great spectacle and circus and the UCI could kick back and say, hey, no rules, so don't crank about us no mo'.
@OFFSHOREDOUG3 жыл бұрын
We need to get all the GCN presenters in the wind tunnel to see their CDA.
@livinginsyn48143 жыл бұрын
Gcn vs GTN in the wind tunnel
@gs787983 жыл бұрын
:-D Connor, the greatest of them all, will have a free day with his family on wind tunnel day. Instead of Connor they just bring an oak tree and lean his bike against it. :-)
@leonbroekx3 жыл бұрын
Marlen Reusser has bizar high/long aerobars. The front-end of her bike has a unique look, but she won silver at the Olympic TT and again silver at the World Championship so it must be fast.
@pembrokeshiredan3 жыл бұрын
3:54 CdA does have units! Cd is unitless, but the "A" is for area. (Units dropped by Ollie?)
@JThelen10313 жыл бұрын
That's not a unit though; that's just the reference value. Cd is just a coefficient with no dimensions to measure.
@pembrokeshiredan3 жыл бұрын
@@JThelen1031 yes, Cd is unitless, but it's almost impossible to measure on its own so CdA is what's always quoted (as in the video). And A is for area, which has units.
@jasonleslie63663 жыл бұрын
Although this might be a relic of the past, I would still rate Chris Boardman’s position on the Lotus track bike as a benchmark in aero position. Would love to know his cDa.
@RudiDwiHartanto3 жыл бұрын
can tell ollie made this video from his passion and after consultation with certain dan bigham. Excellent content
@thatguy90513 жыл бұрын
Excellent Job Ollie!
@torbis752 жыл бұрын
You have to include Ashton Lambie....The pursuit. His Position I think is the most aero of them all ;-). Look when he rides with his team, the others seems like tall towers.
@md.moinulislam94672 жыл бұрын
Very good informative and innovative useful TT bike technology review....!
@ThisIsANameBruh3 жыл бұрын
The answer is easy. Evenepoel. The 60kg boy can TT on par with 85kg beasts. It's not even a question really, he is hands down the most aero on a TT bike.
@rob-c.3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what percentage of his aero gain is because he is simply smaller? You could theoretically have a mediocre position (if scaled up), but your small size makes up for it.
@dominicjames48483 жыл бұрын
@@rob-c. Emma Pooley did a good video on this for GCN a couple of years back. In short, no, small size doesn't make up for it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6HWn2hjm6yUZtU
@erikdekoster370518 күн бұрын
remco escaped in the 2023 vuelta with romain bardet. After the race bardet told reporters that he was not shielded from the wind when riding behind remco, implying remco catches incredibly little wind.
@xixo2k73 жыл бұрын
Jan Ullrich might have had both the most efficient and most elegant position on a TT bike out of all.
@fabiankraus88413 жыл бұрын
Word
@Matakoshi3 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious what your thoughts are on Chris Froome and Tom Dumoulin's positions are? Both have had excellent TT results in grand tours and Olympics (which I under stand doesn't necessarily mean they have a good TT position!).
@kstethespokes10513 жыл бұрын
Coffee not generally recommended for keeping your turtle head tucked in, quite the opposite in fact! 😂
@kakarot24303 жыл бұрын
lewd...
@yannbachelot51783 жыл бұрын
What about Jonathan castroviejo ? Incredible position
@ruanvanderwesthuizen38823 жыл бұрын
Best for last! The legend!!
@ptocknell7 ай бұрын
Tell your cohorts over at GTN to do a similar video for pro triathletes. Be interesting to compare positions when you have to get off and run.
@Henrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyy3 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: *which pro has the most severe neck pain* ?
@slyburner1233 жыл бұрын
Not a word about former world champion and olympic gold medalist Fabian Cancellara. Yes he retired in 2016, but he had huge success against the clock. Would have been interesting to compare his riding position with today's best time trialists.
@vrfonseca3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ollie, Cancellara had a espetacular position too!
@IsmailIsmail-hy3fx3 жыл бұрын
Turtle's head..😂, but fast though.
@pedrazza553711 ай бұрын
Best online cannel on earth. All is correct and i do a lot test also. Can you make a clip between some efforts in past vs. Today. Exemapel bordmann do also de hour record in the 56er km. Ganna also. But i compare of since aeroposition and bike bordmann will be the real monster. Mabe also rominger with 55km.
@Eomak3 жыл бұрын
would miguel indurain be a beast with today's bike's and clothing?
@Mjdssdfff3 жыл бұрын
Best intro music ever
@simoncoorevitsdesign63883 жыл бұрын
Cab you do this for the less restricted triathletes? Or do i hace to go to Gtn for this ;)
@qpae85033 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting. And also maybe analyse the differences between good road cyclists' and triathletes' tt positions.
@leeeeigh7963 жыл бұрын
There a feature UCI legal Vs non UCI legal at your local 10m time trial!
@fiddleronthebike6 ай бұрын
Jan Ulrich - despite being quite tall and strong he had an incredible position on the bike and his TT style probably was the most elegant of all riders
@fiddleronthebike6 ай бұрын
…and btw - he was never in a wind tunnel like the riders today…
@reubenbacon91563 жыл бұрын
You forgot bisseger, lowest cda in the pro peloton apparently
@kidShibuya3 жыл бұрын
The UCI limits how your your extension can be? Good thing I am not a pro.
@robertcatuara51183 жыл бұрын
I just realized Ganna and Alaphilippe both won back to back World's. Interesting.
@d00dEEE3 жыл бұрын
Joss Lowden is probably somewhere in here.
@EatMyPropwash3 жыл бұрын
Eeeeeasy Oliver…. You may make Heather and Mark at GTN jealous. LOL.
@mariusbelisle34943 жыл бұрын
It wouldve been cool to include Dan Bigham, THE aero guy.
@whfowler65153 жыл бұрын
not having ashton lambie on this list is crazy, he is quite possibly the most aerodynamic rider ever tested with a CdA around 0.16. I've heard he can do 30mph at 200 watts from some credible sources.
@19wjsa3 жыл бұрын
No analysis on Quintana? I am surprised...
@Altimis11 ай бұрын
My head refuse to go down so I look down, head go down. Just eye hard stare up. I felt wind pass through me like crazy.
@gauravgurav29533 жыл бұрын
What is CDA?
@gcntech3 жыл бұрын
It stands for coefficient of aerodynamic drag - basically just how aerodynamic a rider is!
@larrylem35823 жыл бұрын
@@gcntech Coefficient of aero drag times area.
@jeffreypeters19023 жыл бұрын
They are all starting to resemble the Floyd Landis "praying mantis" position IMHO.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Жыл бұрын
2 years later my comment but Floyd was defo ahead of his time with his TT position for sure
@jimmyhor783 жыл бұрын
Well Roglic still won the Olympics TT and both Vuelta TTs on that same helmet. So it can't be that bad.
@ezraholwerda15123 жыл бұрын
Also I gets aero tested al the time at s Dutch university. And the same helmet being used by the Dutch trackriders being quite successful.
@Yes-sc1pb3 жыл бұрын
He uncursed the cursed helmet 😂
@bertdebruijn71293 жыл бұрын
He usually has a visor. That doesn’t look as silly.
@enijland75623 жыл бұрын
Tom Dumoulin. Could have been mentioned.
@tommyschlebusch3 жыл бұрын
Victor Campenaerts
@benwhite4693 жыл бұрын
A talk about most aero positions but missing Dan Bigham Joss Lowden and Steffan Bissiger arguably the 3 lowest CDA in the world right now. I'm guessing this was filmed before Dan and Joss's hour records attempts
@jonathanzappala3 жыл бұрын
If you did all time and not at the moment, my guess is Emma Pooley.
@buffelfloh86233 жыл бұрын
Stefan Bisegger is also a big number for the future
@jameskinrade9613 жыл бұрын
Yo mush
@markrskinner3 жыл бұрын
For the oldies : Chris Boardman.
@danielpinto14173 жыл бұрын
You clearly missed two of the most aero (lowest CDA) out there.. first Dan Brigham and Stefan Bisseger...
@PrzemyslawSliwinski3 жыл бұрын
1. What about Manon's position? 2. What about a "mechanical doping" in a form of artificial chests and bellies some riders have used recently? PS I enjoy riding on a tandem with aerobars. Took a while to learn how to keep a balance on turns and less than perfect roads, but... ;)
@log_it82823 жыл бұрын
Yes, artificial... `:-S
@KotzmannWolfgang3 жыл бұрын
Remco or Küng with 2x 800ml breast implants, that would certainly look awesome. 🤩
@subi7o3 жыл бұрын
Dan Bigham
@carlosbarbozapadilla4293 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw Tony Martin and didn't know who he was I thought Cillian Murphy was a cyclist.
@Pratalax3 жыл бұрын
Vleuty, Van Der Breggen?
@hngldr3 жыл бұрын
Know what I really don't understand? Why do they have 2 aerobars when they could just have one and clasp one hand over the other? Mine broke once and I did that for months of training and it worked great. Seems like a waste of weight and aero to have 2. Obviously you need 2 pads, but you definitely only need 1 centered bar.
@ili47073 жыл бұрын
Jan Frodeno had a handle bar like that in the tri battle against Lionel Sanders. Did seem like a very good idea! I think/hope they will be implementing that on the road soon. Did look like a cock though...
@snailpower18903 жыл бұрын
campenaert is also an aero freak
@Eomak3 жыл бұрын
Fabian Cancellara?
@tobycolin62713 жыл бұрын
The best position is the one that wins the most events.
@mbal40523 жыл бұрын
The best position is the one that’s fastest with the fewest watts..
@tobycolin62713 жыл бұрын
@@mbal4052 not true it’s a balance between drag, power, comfort, confidence and most important fatigue. I have seen many extreme aero positions that where set up in the tunnel completely fall apart in a tt. What you can maintain in a tunnel for 4 to 5 minutes often doesn’t work when your out on the road buffeted by the wind.
@HHH-bi1xg3 жыл бұрын
Remco and campenaerts
@Neezabja3 жыл бұрын
Bradley Wiggins.
@MichaelWilliams-iv6dj3 жыл бұрын
Martin Toft Madsen and Dan Bigham are about as good as it gets for men. Joss Lowden has got super narrow shoulders that tuck in very nicely behind her Tempor.
@paulsolon62292 жыл бұрын
Cancellara needed Gcn talks about coffee a lot Addiction?
@fabian07053 жыл бұрын
jonathan castroviejo
@admirale30002 жыл бұрын
Yes
@paulsolon62292 жыл бұрын
You show team pursuit many times And we don’t know which of 4 is the rider you are talking about
@BigBrownMonke3 жыл бұрын
No Tadej Pogačar?
@prathvirajsinghrathore11622 жыл бұрын
Where is Ashton lambie, dan bigham ??
@franziskus03423 жыл бұрын
you missed olly bridgewood
@madsbertramkristensen27183 жыл бұрын
Jonas Vingegaard
@spencermcgehee36023 жыл бұрын
Bissegger Dumoulin Asgreen Dennis Plapp Bigham
@helmiwijaya73 жыл бұрын
Anna Van der Breggen
@DeveryAndrews3 жыл бұрын
FC
@4shl3y383 жыл бұрын
ollie has the best aero position in a tt bike
@4shl3y383 жыл бұрын
@@ds6914 😂 even if im 14 i think i can sure compete with mid level amateurs in a tt race 😂 just sayin😂😂
@lopey663 жыл бұрын
how about mentioning triathletes as they have maintain this for180km in ironman races, even Ultra 24 hour races
@chrispyy6060606063 жыл бұрын
They are lucky as they don’t have to deal with the UCI’s fit rules. Basically anything goes for them
@tommyrq1803 жыл бұрын
They have to consider running after the bike leg, thus have compromised TT positions.
@DomestiqueKoch3 жыл бұрын
Tom Dumoulin
@checktaschu44923 жыл бұрын
A tall guy like Ganna can never be as aero as someone like Lisa Klein or Evenepoel. He has other advantages that make him quick, but that’s not aerodynamics.
@aastadpalkhiwalla9442 жыл бұрын
Fabian
@clemme173 жыл бұрын
Kasper Asgren....?
@octaman42183 ай бұрын
You fail to mention Fabian cancellara who blew away Tony Martin and others in the 2016 men's individual time trials at the Olympics in Rio using what you called the traditional style. you're so called praying mantis position used by Tony Martin at the time and others was ineffective. and Tony Martin ended up 10th using the praying mantis style. in that same year Tony Martin switch back to the traditional style(the Fabian cancellara style because he said he wasn't getting the power he used to from that praying mantis position) and won the Qatar men's time trial finals hands down using the so-called traditional style(which he used till the end of his career)not your praying mantis style. Just because something works in a controlled environment such as wind tunnels and indoor velodromes doesn't necessarily mean it equals power in the real elements.
This is an incredibly ill informed video. CdA is the product of Cd = drag coefficient and A = area of cross section of the moving object. 1. The units of CdA are square meters. Ollie should know better, since he studied science! If you don't use the correct units for CdA, you don't get the right units for power from the air resistance formula. BTW, some people call CdA "drag area". Get it? Area! 2. More importantly, Ollie lumps together Cd, which depends on the shape of the moving object, and A, which depends on its size. So, Remco's CdA might be small, be he is also a small rider. If Ganna and Remco had the same shape and hence the same Cd (in the parlance of cyclists -- if they were equally "aero"), Ganna would still have a larger CdA, because he is a bigger rider! The fact that Ollie does not discuss this is inexcusable. 3. This is the third major scientific mistake I've found in GCN videos and I'm losing my patience with this sloppiness.
@bojansaksida36253 жыл бұрын
Realy???? the only picture of Roglič is from last years TT in the TDF???? with the TT helmet on a climbing bike in the midle of a climb??? the best climber in the world with so many TT wins...and the olimpic champion.... it's obvious you don't like him, but as a commentator you should be more objective
@mbal40523 жыл бұрын
He was talking about how poor his helmet was aerodynamically you know, not having a go at him..🙄
@bojansaksida36253 жыл бұрын
@@mbal4052 his helmet was good....for a TT bike in a TT position...no TT helmet has an aero gain siting upright on a climbing bike !
@bojansaksida36253 жыл бұрын
@@mbal4052 actualy the REAL experts say that he has the best TT position , because of how straight his back is, from all the years training ski jumbing inrun position as a kid
@trdi3 жыл бұрын
Come on, be serious, don't mix female and male cycling. Keep them separated so that viewers can choose what they want to watch.
@trdi3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes - maybe then you wouldn't have missed all those riders in Zrs' comment. Crazy.