GEAR CHECK // 2023 Intelligentsia Cup

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NorCal Cycling

NorCal Cycling

11 ай бұрын

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@tewaewae
@tewaewae 11 ай бұрын
Teams are like bands, they are fluid. Doesn't mean the musicians aren't good or not friends, they're just doing different things. Jeff and EJ, thanks to both of you. Best of luck and I hope we get to see you both working with each other in some way in the future. Rubber side down.
@ferrisdurden2741
@ferrisdurden2741 11 ай бұрын
EJ is young, it’s time to try new things and see where it takes him. He seems like a good dude and I’m sure most will wish him the best. As an older rider, I don’t have an interest in watching his clips as my time is limited and I honestly can’t relate and have little interest in watching his training which is very different than mine. I watch this channel to get race tactics and a better understanding of how to be successful in a crit, what are winning strategies and when to jump when an opportunity opens up. I’ve enjoyed seeing EJ flourish, and hope they can make amends. It would be a bad look for them to have a falling out. EJ will fade away quickly if it’s truly a falling out and he starts popping off so I hope he plays it smarter. Jeff is a good man and seems humble so I’m sure they will figure it out and be collab’ing from time to time which will be great to see. I am glad to see the direction of the channel staying true to its purpose, I was starting to get bored at times with the gee golly content, let’s see more race analysis’s and deep dives, no one is better.
@ProximaC-tl5sj
@ProximaC-tl5sj 11 ай бұрын
+1
@AntonioGGATX
@AntonioGGATX 11 ай бұрын
+1
@julianpaulaseneta6104
@julianpaulaseneta6104 11 ай бұрын
which part in the video does jeff hinted about a fallout? what's the sauce?
@ProximaC-tl5sj
@ProximaC-tl5sj 11 ай бұрын
@@julianpaulaseneta6104 he didn't, EJ made a video mentioning it on his new channel
@michaelgraycycling
@michaelgraycycling 11 ай бұрын
Bummed to hear of the split between you and EJ. But… You both rock and looking forward to seeing how you do at Intelligentsia
@CRBenham20
@CRBenham20 11 ай бұрын
sad to hear EJ wont be at intelligentsia, i was really looking forward to racing with him in the Cat 3 races. Still stoked to watch the p/1/2 races in the evenings and get to see jeff race in person after watching the channel for years and learning so much from it!
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
COME SAY HI!!!
@Masterrex
@Masterrex 11 ай бұрын
Man it seems like you (@Jeff) were trending toward an NCC team. I had been hoping y'all would get it done, hoping that wasn't the visionary split difference. I think y'all should make amends, accept that EJ should roll his own channel/content, but come back to the NCC mothership as a partner/member. I've seen so many great YT partnerships die likely due to financial differences. Don't let it be so! The Scotty Cranmer channel and Jujimufu were both centered around iconic characters but had supporting roles (Big Boy, Tom, respectively) that left major gaps after each split. In this case, I think NCC will do wonderfully even post-split, and I think EJ may make it on his own too - however we (the 'royal we') would benefit from seeing collaborative content in the future. I was hoping yall would be rocking NCC jerseys and taking a shot at being the next Legion.
@Djalmatec91
@Djalmatec91 11 ай бұрын
Congrats for all the partners! Rock that baby now!
@jisbellfootball
@jisbellfootball 11 ай бұрын
You and EJ are both producing great content. I'm sure that will continue for you. Keep taking the high road.
@ConnorFrench
@ConnorFrench 11 ай бұрын
Shame to see you guys have split. At least it seems amicable and looking forward to seeing what you both put out in the future!
@RodrigoOliveira-go1nf
@RodrigoOliveira-go1nf 11 ай бұрын
they split?
@tewaewae
@tewaewae 11 ай бұрын
@@RodrigoOliveira-go1nf Yep, Creative differences I'd imagine, which happens. Both good ppl so can only wish them both the best.
@jamese4729
@jamese4729 11 ай бұрын
@@tewaewae Where is this information coming from? Weird to see the comments with the same time stamp as this video which doesn't seem to mention it. What am I missing?
@Mybrother53
@Mybrother53 11 ай бұрын
​@jamese4729 It is on EJs new KZbin channel. I had to do some digging to find it...sounds like it is much more training focused and reality TV oriented versus racing tactics focused. From EJs mouth it definitely wasn't a clean break...but when finances and creative control is concerned it's always going to be more awkward
@jeremysweeten2792
@jeremysweeten2792 11 ай бұрын
@@Mybrother53#TeamJeff
@bradpeterson6894
@bradpeterson6894 11 ай бұрын
Bummed to see EJ go, but I also understand and see your two brands/styles were diverging. Hopefully we the viewers just end up with two great channels to watch! :) Enjoy the channel and looking forward to see your Intelligencia Cup races!
@JohnsBikingPlaylists-ms6uj
@JohnsBikingPlaylists-ms6uj 11 ай бұрын
Good luck! I'll be watching the Lake Bluff race
@MTYNER503
@MTYNER503 11 ай бұрын
Bummed to hear about the split with EJ. Props to you two for keeping the love and respect there and not bashing one another. Best of luck to both of you. Looking forward to following along on both of your journeys and watching both of your content!
@calkotz3728
@calkotz3728 11 ай бұрын
Your description of the road feel reminds me a lot of the CAAD12, which was reviewed as having a “braille-like” road feel (it is still a rocket ship but I can confirm this is accurate). Also sorry to see the split, but you guys told a great story with a beginning, middle, and natural conclusion. You both should be proud of that work and I look forward to seeing your respective creative/riding futures.
@proximityroars5149
@proximityroars5149 11 ай бұрын
That Scott looks absolutely amazing
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
looks like a rocketship, races like one too
@allenjay896
@allenjay896 11 ай бұрын
Congrats for you guys! you guys should be thankfull that scott was able to do this for tou! Goodluck!
@airman8368
@airman8368 11 ай бұрын
Bada$$ bikes and kit. Good luck out in Chi-town.
@ppham
@ppham 11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@312cycling
@312cycling 11 ай бұрын
A chinese fan here who also be racing the intelli cup this year! So excited to finally say hi to you in person!!
@dennismurray00
@dennismurray00 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful bike.
@crackerbarreIkid55
@crackerbarreIkid55 11 ай бұрын
Sick gear!
@ee-dt6oe
@ee-dt6oe 11 ай бұрын
Really hyped by some potential tech review of all those new kit 🙌
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
i'll be talking about it throughout intelligentsia so check out my IG for content through the series, and of course youtube for content after i get back!!
@ryanrsingh18
@ryanrsingh18 11 ай бұрын
Sooooo that RC30 Scott Foil is up for grabs?
@aydanleffel6941
@aydanleffel6941 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing you at the Brookfield Race!
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
🤘
@blingn007
@blingn007 11 ай бұрын
You should note that the rc pro is the 2nd from the top. The highest tier foil is the premium which is the only bike to use a different frame carbon layup.
@Ni1zz
@Ni1zz 11 ай бұрын
I would also agree to use such bike and a suit. Great video😂
@JimUe1
@JimUe1 11 ай бұрын
Was interested in a Scott Foil, but out of stock everywhere locally
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 11 ай бұрын
Get this man a @rule28 man bra 😜 Proven racing winning technology
@rule28Clothing
@rule28Clothing 11 ай бұрын
They’ve got them 😎
@whatsuphonkycat
@whatsuphonkycat 11 ай бұрын
the world of alviso fan fiction just exploded... upgrade ej! this rivalry finna be lit. this is like episode three, at the end... if EJ joins legion his turn to the darkside will be complete! jeff......... "the boy you trained, gone he is." 😞
@m.ncycles
@m.ncycles 11 ай бұрын
“Cattywampus” wow man I haven’t heard this word used in context at this level of eloquence in over a decade. Most underrated piece of this vid!!
@asmodean8987
@asmodean8987 11 ай бұрын
Yay bont shoes! I love mine. They're actually shaped like a real foot
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
i think they're shaped exactly like my foot lol. the new last design is so perfect for me i don't even need to heat mold anymore
@Pratalax
@Pratalax 11 ай бұрын
"we'll see you in chicago" RIP xD looks like a fun opportunity!
@proximityroars5149
@proximityroars5149 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking for aero socks and some gloves, those new ones look amazing. I’m thinking of those ones haha
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
They are!
@joshuamonteith6901
@joshuamonteith6901 11 ай бұрын
the Scott Foil has my heart...
@nigelmcclean4166
@nigelmcclean4166 11 ай бұрын
Looks like EJ already saw the split in this vid!!!
@ProximaC-tl5sj
@ProximaC-tl5sj 11 ай бұрын
Although unnecessary but I wanted to comment this: I think what EJ did was a bit childish, I'm not saying he shouldn't have done what he did, but the approach really puts things in perspective and shows things for the way they are. I won't list logical reasons here, but that's my understanding. "EJ's training camp" channel was (probably) a surprise to even Jeff, I'd believe. But of course, I don't know either of them personally.. just speculations. I am fine with the really rare BTS videos, but I mainly want to see content that's helpful to me and is to the point - which is the definition of Norcal cycling channel for us veiwers.
@rivasyoung
@rivasyoung 11 ай бұрын
I do wish I was a position like you guys to get a good bike , I’m a athlete in my country and I’m currently suffering from back pains and sore muscles because I have a smaller bike 😔but I’m Happy for your guys keep up the good work and all the best 🙏🏽
@stephen_101
@stephen_101 11 ай бұрын
I ❤ Scott bikes too! If they can survive the punishment SAFA Brian puts them through, they should be plenty rugged for a race.
@matthiasmoder9119
@matthiasmoder9119 6 ай бұрын
What are your body measurement and the foil frame sizes? How is the size compared to others?
@simple.visuals
@simple.visuals 11 ай бұрын
Norcal and cade media sponsored by scott. They're getting the new bike influencers
@Martin-ls9bz
@Martin-ls9bz 11 ай бұрын
Those foils look amazing. Hopefully giant/Mike's can give you one of the new Propels to compare against later on
@adaml5473
@adaml5473 11 ай бұрын
They ride cervelo now
@Martin-ls9bz
@Martin-ls9bz 11 ай бұрын
@@adaml5473 true I forgot! Maybe an S5 then
@peterm.7497
@peterm.7497 11 ай бұрын
To those complaining, why would you expect Jeff to reshoot the video b/c the split occurred after the filming? It tells you how fast things can change -- that's life, that's youtube. The video has a story within the story. Can't wait to see the new recruit for the next couch to crit!
@peteross4587
@peteross4587 11 ай бұрын
I'd love to be that dude! Unfortunately I'm in the UK, and middle age.
@nationsnumber1chump
@nationsnumber1chump 11 ай бұрын
Well got damn! Legion finally paid out! 😂
@JwallzMTB
@JwallzMTB 11 ай бұрын
im the same, my feet dont agree with specialized shoes but bontrager shoes i can wear all day
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 11 ай бұрын
See you soon Jeff!
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
Look forward to seeing you again, maybe spend more time this year!!
@jimmyduffer9769
@jimmyduffer9769 11 ай бұрын
Those new Bonts are the best Ive owned.
@miggydiggyy
@miggydiggyy 11 ай бұрын
You know it’s real when you don’t hear the EJ laugh once in this video 🥺
@Dustydayzz
@Dustydayzz 11 ай бұрын
​@Ejstrainingcamp you seemed absent minded to me. It's like you were thinking of other things other than the video itself. Plus u looked upset but trying to be civil😢
@Nahhnope
@Nahhnope 11 ай бұрын
​@Ejstrainingcamp weird comments here man.
@WillLewisVincent
@WillLewisVincent 11 ай бұрын
@@Ejstrainingcamp I think he was confirming the vibe was off. The fun you and Jeff had in the first 6+ months making content was awesome to see (always laughing vs not in this one). It is tuff when friends see different paths. Hope you two can work together again in the future. Seems like cycling is your passion, have followed your skills from the golf world and as soon as you did the daily vlog I knew cycling was it.
@tewaewae
@tewaewae 11 ай бұрын
05:54 Jeff is a great ventriloquist too. Dude has mad skills, i didn't evne see him slip his hand up EJ's rear end and move his mouth.
@gmen1305
@gmen1305 11 ай бұрын
@@Ejstrainingcamp By your demeanor It appears like you were planning to make this split before you shot this video, yet you waited, possible days, to tell Jeff......
@michastradowski6336
@michastradowski6336 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jeff you need another trainee (padawan). Would really love to see progress and growth of anither person that you coach.
@oskarleijon
@oskarleijon 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to see EJ go but felt like it was coming. Good time to bring back Glen again, we need some "dutch muscle"! What happened to him?
@devintom4346
@devintom4346 11 ай бұрын
What size frames??
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 11 ай бұрын
I preferred it when the Winfield course went another block to the west before turning south, but what can you do?
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
just ride off course, race your race 😂
@juanfernandojimenezosorio7475
@juanfernandojimenezosorio7475 9 ай бұрын
That Foil frame Vs SL7 SW. how does it feel like ? Which one is your favorite?
@cbb3062
@cbb3062 11 ай бұрын
Poc helmets for the win!
@jeffstucky6010
@jeffstucky6010 11 ай бұрын
Curious if you run any special footbed in your Bonts?
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
I was on solestars but switched to bonts new insoles, they’re great and lighter than solestar. I wear blue (high arch) by the way
@bopis123
@bopis123 11 ай бұрын
kinda sad this plan didnt push through for EJ!
@Tara_Masika
@Tara_Masika 11 ай бұрын
1:21 Is that... SPIDERMAN?! 😮❤
@ciw8688
@ciw8688 11 ай бұрын
I hope you make a video review and compares this bike to the ones you have ridden
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
good idea!
@matthewcarey5952
@matthewcarey5952 11 ай бұрын
@@NorCalCycling eagerly waiting on a tarmac vs Scott foil comparison
@morrisizing
@morrisizing 5 ай бұрын
Do you not find the Vaypour S's a better crit shoe?
@vincentlevalois
@vincentlevalois 11 ай бұрын
EJ, Where'd you get that computer mount on the stem at 3:07??
@Ejstrainingcamp
@Ejstrainingcamp 11 ай бұрын
It comes with Garmins that you order! But got it from my local shop.
@vincentlevalois
@vincentlevalois 11 ай бұрын
@@Ejstrainingcamp Thanks! Need something light like that to mount a GoPro :D
@yovino4862
@yovino4862 11 ай бұрын
I just got a pair of BONT shoes took me 7 yrs
@nclsv
@nclsv 11 ай бұрын
A in depth review of the bike would be nice
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
Should have a really good idea after intelli 👍
@ericquiat1285
@ericquiat1285 11 ай бұрын
Love my new Foil RC10. How's the 3 piece seatpost working for you? Mine keeps creaking a few days after servicing (silicone lubricant) which is pretty annoying. asked Scott about this but they haven't replied. 1 piece post looks like the wtg but out of stock, as are their stems.
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
It freaks me out when I take the accessory cover off 😆 like not much material holding me up. Mine has been fine maybe I’m lucky I didn’t add anything but a little carbon grip might help, good luck
@Florian_SL
@Florian_SL 11 ай бұрын
Did you add the little rubber thingy behind the accessory cover?
@ericquiat1285
@ericquiat1285 11 ай бұрын
@@Florian_SL you mean where the light can go? i got the light there now.
@Florian_SL
@Florian_SL 11 ай бұрын
@@ericquiat1285 exactly. Scott issued a "Service Action" called "MY23 Foil RC Seatpost Correction" and provided a rubber seal to a friend of mine, who has a Foil RC. I can send you a picture of the seal and service action "manual", if you'd like.
@jackliang6061
@jackliang6061 11 ай бұрын
I had the same. Use some carbon paste and its gone
@Clauds43
@Clauds43 11 ай бұрын
What's with EJ posting the split and NC posting they're jolly with each other??
@jbaillie
@jbaillie 11 ай бұрын
Where did EJ post? I don't see anything on YT and his Insta is gone
@jonathanwise47
@jonathanwise47 11 ай бұрын
I would imagine this was recorded before.
@Clauds43
@Clauds43 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathanwise47 EJ just posted today in his new channel. Feels weird to still post this despite that.
@jonathanwise47
@jonathanwise47 11 ай бұрын
@@Clauds43 I saw he posted yesterday
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
Jonathan is right, this was recorded before and unfortunately I was just too busy to reshoot and re-edit in a single day before heading to chicago. so apologies for the kind of weird intro.
@maikdc91
@maikdc91 11 ай бұрын
EJ with the blind side attack, he hungry for that youtube money
@shepshape2585
@shepshape2585 11 ай бұрын
Just to confirm, it's never the bike unless you have a mechanical. The guy who wins a race would have won it (and may have won it) on an entry level bike with a 105 mechanical group set. All the money in the world isn't buying you a win. It's always been the motor, it'll always be the motor. So while I ride a Scott, and I love Scott bikes, if you don't have the legs, that beautiful bike isn't going to make one iota of difference.
@JBmadera
@JBmadera 11 ай бұрын
Looks so freakin" fast.......but way too stiff for a senior citizen such as myself. best of luck at IC.
@tedfordshire89
@tedfordshire89 11 ай бұрын
Di2 definitely a game changer when you run out of battery 😀
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
can't forget to charge those batteries lol, but as long is it's charged the shifting is quick, crisp and reliable, even under load. hard to beat that in crit racing.
@Carftymk
@Carftymk 11 ай бұрын
lol you baited people so good with the split anouncement
@mathias8013
@mathias8013 11 ай бұрын
That wasn’t a bait, I’m sure that’s real. He said EJ isn’t going after all?
@thatWASdum328
@thatWASdum328 11 ай бұрын
solid vid
@aleisaqui
@aleisaqui 11 ай бұрын
sad to see y’all split! i wish EJ well! can’t wait to meet you jeff tho! 🫡
@cbb3062
@cbb3062 11 ай бұрын
I like scott bikes, dont like there geometry though or there prices but they make nice bikes. I would buy one if there geometry fit me despite there crazy price.
@scottelectronic
@scottelectronic 7 ай бұрын
their
@TheLanorth
@TheLanorth 11 ай бұрын
I don't get it, why is it news that your are not on one team for a race?
@razupaltuff504
@razupaltuff504 11 ай бұрын
Love these bikes, they look awesome, but i disagree with you in the good price of the foil RC30. With other brands you get much more than aluminium wheels and a 105 di2, thats not a good choice. The RC Pro Bike is compared to it as a high value bike better between the competing brands in the price point
@jbaillie
@jbaillie 11 ай бұрын
0:07 sorry what am I missing with the zoom on the van?
@oculusquest6703
@oculusquest6703 11 ай бұрын
Ice cream
@jbaillie
@jbaillie 11 ай бұрын
@@oculusquest6703 🤦‍♂of course
@fraserherman8754
@fraserherman8754 11 ай бұрын
A bit strange putting this vid up after EJ announced he's not going and you guys broke up😮
@LuffLab
@LuffLab 11 ай бұрын
Not too interested in the details, happy to support both you and EJ in whatever way that looks like
@d_charles
@d_charles 11 ай бұрын
The Foil can be a bit of an ass hatchet, but can fit 32s, which I find helps take the edge off.
@pauldyerdyer2731
@pauldyerdyer2731 11 ай бұрын
Love Bont and Kask but never worn a skin suit?
@ironore8677
@ironore8677 11 ай бұрын
No more soloist?
@MarkCox11
@MarkCox11 11 ай бұрын
so are you guys cool or not?
@jkotsche7035
@jkotsche7035 11 ай бұрын
E.J. and Jeff, what level of carbon? 12r for Jeff's E.J.,'s ?
@rodcosta2345
@rodcosta2345 11 ай бұрын
TCR gang is sad... 😞 Sick Scott though!
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
TCR was the inexpensive jack of all trades. scott foil is the road performance specialist
@auricschiller
@auricschiller 11 ай бұрын
Why didn't linder just toss this video and re-shoot? So strange.
@NorCalCycling
@NorCalCycling 11 ай бұрын
scrapping this would require a reshoot and re-edit turnaround in 1 day, I just had too much going on to make that possible
@Nahhnope
@Nahhnope 11 ай бұрын
@Ejstrainingcamp similar to my other reply in on this video, why leave a comment like this? You said you guys were amicably going your own ways, but your bumping around the comment section on Jeff's newest video leaving weird comments like this. Either let it go, or spill it for everyone to see. This weird in between is lame.
@Ejstrainingcamp
@Ejstrainingcamp 11 ай бұрын
@@NahhnopeYeah that’s a fair take. I was just trying to be civil in my video but it just feels a bit strange to put this video out is all and to only have a little cut away saying I’m not coming with making it seem like it was me who pulled out (which wasn’t really the case) just felt a bit disrespectful. I probably shouldn’t be petty in the comments though. You’re right. I apologize.
@Nahhnope
@Nahhnope 11 ай бұрын
@@Ejstrainingcamp respect for that. For what it's worth, I'll def be following whatever you do next.
@Ejstrainingcamp
@Ejstrainingcamp 11 ай бұрын
@@NahhnopeI appreciate the call out though. Thank you for the support.
@Niggoification
@Niggoification 11 ай бұрын
So are you split now or not!?
@peterm.7497
@peterm.7497 11 ай бұрын
Novice cyclists being pulled from obscurity now need agents and unions.
@gmen1305
@gmen1305 11 ай бұрын
The split doesn't surprise me, EJ always came across to me as one who was always going to do what he wanted to do and not listen to others advice - EJ - love him or not but I was never a fan of his old channel & won't be of his new one
@zoomtruth1013
@zoomtruth1013 11 ай бұрын
EJ did you DIRTY!! He glomed your subs and has no idea how much you kickstarted his ass.
@konigsegg_1to1
@konigsegg_1to1 11 ай бұрын
Shut up
@ItzDeejay712
@ItzDeejay712 11 ай бұрын
To me it seemed like EJ was excited about all the new stuff he was getting to do in cycling and wanted to share it. Obviously Jeff didn't want that kind of content and EJ shouldn't be putting that much effort into someone else's channel anyways. I don't think anyone is getting rich off of these channels so feeling shouldn't be too hurt.
@zoomtruth1013
@zoomtruth1013 11 ай бұрын
@@ItzDeejay712 Jeff making a living with 172k subs 100%
@gmen1305
@gmen1305 11 ай бұрын
@@ItzDeejay712 The last couple of videos from EJ on NC2 were more about him talking & joking around and less about actually riding & commentary of his racing.....I won't miss his laughing at every little thing - that's what's up
@gcanzano36
@gcanzano36 11 ай бұрын
Classic grasshopper syndrome. Sad to see…
@ItzDeejay712
@ItzDeejay712 11 ай бұрын
Jeff must be really salty bc hes pretending the elephant in the room doesn't exist. Its all good boys. EJ should have had his own channel for a while, now he does. You can each do what you want to do.
@itsP0rky
@itsP0rky 11 ай бұрын
What a weird take. Maybe he just didn't' want to talk about it because they agreed not to? In any case, EJ would be a nobody if not for Jeff.
@wbuchmueller
@wbuchmueller 11 ай бұрын
couldnt be bothered to clean your drivetrain when showing off your bike ?!?
@chrisscanlon3717
@chrisscanlon3717 11 ай бұрын
No different than the sl7 it's all overpriced disc brake marketing hype. 12,000 dollar bikes that are worth 3 grand exactly one year later 🤣
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