Gear Talk: Forgotten Weapons, Finnish Brutality Edition

[@arctic_shrew_87]

Went to Iraq with fully enclosed, issued, mag pouches and never had issues. Went to Afghanistan a few years later and it was all the rage to have open top pouches. One, the mags were scrapped up and my rifle was scratched to hell by the mags. Two, since i had issued mags, dust, sand, and moisture would get in the hole in the floor plate and turned the inside of my mags into a muddy sludge. Competition shooting loadouts and the desire of the average soldier to want to pretend they are an operator has been detrimental to soldiers understanding how their kit should actually be arranged.

[@509Gman]

PMAGs fix both of those issues.

[@MichaelROC]

As a Taiwanese, some friends of mine are preparing for the possible upcoming invasion, whether in military or other fields. I also got my self some basic rifleman gear in case my country need me to be in one. I decided to stick with more conventional gears instead of high-end ones, still better than army-issued-older-than-my-dad gears of course. Because it’s very unlikely that a reserve like me would need to do CQB or something. Making sure oneself can stay in combat is more important than looking cool.

[@roundrock63]

This is a great interview with Ian. It’s nice to hear him say he isn’t the person to have an opinion on the optimal kit setup. For someone in his area of expertise, His opinion and advice are based in reality.

[@Stand_de_tir]

thx for this great video !

[@notyetidentified9720]

Yeah, what Ian talks about dust and open holsters and pouches - funny thing, when the open pouches became the most popular thing (I think good 10 years ago), it was the airsoft that taught me I really need flaps and full cover holster, because once you start crawling with open holster/pouches you quickly learn it all goes to shit :D

[@lukecantwell4513]

That was an awesome analysis. Good on both of you.

[@paanikki]

Next year you should have a stage were competitors must hit a target with an old muzzleloader black powder gun.

[@ali-3837]

this would be really cool they should consider some sort of cannon or artillery

[@BratacOfChulak]

Too much RNG

[@hiltonian_1260]

It’s called “primitive biathlon” and we do it in the winter in Vermont.

[@roundrock63]

And thank you for putting this series together. Looking forward to watching everyone with each of the KZbin participants.

[@IamOutOfNames]

Purely from a marketing perspective, is it a good idea to have Ian say "don't buy stuff you don't need" on your stores YT account? Who am I kidding, we'll still buy it.

[@ninja393]

This is part of Leka's marketing scheme. Honest business is best for business.

[@matkahenkilo8554]

It is, if you sell stuff that people need 😉

[@GlidingChiller]

Varusteleka takes a pretty strong anti comsumerism and mindless buying stance themselves on their website so I think its just fine.

[@DriveCarToBar]

The MAS-36 is also a rear lug action and they are very accurate. The receiver on them is a big hefty forging, which is different from others that are just machined round bar stock. The magazine well and receiver are all one piece. The bolt is a big thick chunk of steel. A seriously good rifle.

[@_Art.Vandelay]

Would you guys ever make a flap holster like what you described? It’s a little hard to find flap holster options especially for handguns with lights and optics.

[@MrLM002]

I couldn't agree more!

[@lucasmcculla1283]

Radio pouch or sacrifice a mag pouch..

[@nicksanza109]

The American M12 can comfortably fit glock 19s with optics, just not lights

[@christopherreed4723]

I would love to see either a full holster design for large (Glock 17/SIG320) or compact (Glock 19) pistols with a light, or a protective flap that could be added onto an existing holster (a Safariland for example).

[@jimmothy3012]

I think if a company designed a cover that could go over hard holsters that has a flap that can either be used over the pistol for general use or fold up somewhere for CQB that company could make millions

[@teddy2guns404]

Snake from Metal Gear Solid use a flap holster enough said

[@RedBranchBushcraft]

Nice

[@teddy2guns404]

And I really want to do a Metal Gear Solid Snake gear build OD green and Alice

[@paulelledge8977]

Any idea what med pouch that is?

[@ravingbadger]

will there be a psr gear talk as well?

[@varusteleka]

Maybe! ;)

[@Gungnir762]

I’ll take an RK…

[@Gungnir762]

I’ll trade New England Maple syrup for one. :P

[@nicksanza109]

The american M12 holster can comfortably fit a Glock 19 with a red dot and still have full retention with the flap closed

[@christiangrantz6906]

Quick draw holsters are more for police than military

[@varusteleka]

it's nice keep your pistol with you

[@jamesbussey2911]

Ian, the main use of the pistol in war is to provide a souvenir for the other side. It's likely the last time anyone came close to being either engaged with or killed by a pistol in combat would have been in the days of heavy cavalry and muzzle loaders. 🤔

[@kevinoliver3083]

There were at least two cases in Afghanistan were British soldiers saved their lives using pistols. One had his vehicle knocked with an IED. He baled out without his rifle and defended himself from the ambushers with his pistol until other troops could reach him. The other was a sniper, moving along the narrow alleys of a compound with his rifle slung and his HP in hand. He came face to face with an AKM armed Taliban. And fired first.

[@somuchnope2]

This is a bad take and I hope it is sarcastic. Yea pistols are not the most important wsapon and that's why most soldiers historically did not have one, but there are tons and tons of anecdotes if their situational usefulness you could find easily

[@jamesbussey2911]

​@@kevinoliver3083 Blimey! I stand corrected. In both cases a PDW, rather than a pistol would have been a better weapon to use, had one magically appeared in their hands. There are many such machine-pistols on the market: Skorpian, AKMSU, Ingram Mac 10, Mini-Uzi, FN P90, H&K 53, Sterling Mk 9, Enfield L22 etc. Pistols are purely 'get yourself out of the sh1t if you can' weapons, and should never be used offensively outside of a video game. Most armed forces don't train with them or fire them enough for any soldier to be any good: there's barely enough training time to be proficient with primary weapons. I learnt the 9mm Browning at the back of a range in about quarter of an hour when I was in the British Army before I first fired it for the relatively few times I ever got any range time firing pistols at all. Another use of pistols is to arm instructors training locally recruited forces: 'Green on Blue' attacks have been with us since the days of the Raj. I'd be interested in the stats and circumstances of those if you've got any anecdotes. Sadly, there were far too many such stories like your first example coming out of the disastrous British deployment in Afghanistan - lots of bravery awards for saving people under fire and defending isolated strongpoints, rather than offensive action to dominate the ground. In Northern Ireland, there were never less than 10,000 soldiers in theatre, sometimes well over 20,000. In Afghanistan, there were never more than 10,000. The Army never followed any of the Principles of War, either, particularly the first and most important: Selection and Maintenance of the Aim. 🤔

[@jamesbussey2911]

​@@somuchnope2It's not sarcastic, Cody: the first thing many soldiers do after overrunning and securing an enemy position is to scarf up the available booty. Pistols are one of the most sought after items, 'coz they're a cool thing to have, and easy to carry. Hence why many are found in attics after one's grandfather's go to the Final Rendezvous. If pistols were so good, governments would equip their soldiers with them instead of rifles and machine guns for offensive operations, purely on economic grounds. 🤪

[@trioptimum9027]

Actually, pistols had a very important role in close combat up until the advent of the submachinegun. Even after that, if you couldn't get a submachinegun or needed to carry a rifle,* they retained some utility until the assault rifle really took over. Now, you're absolutely right about the relative utility today. But the days when a pistol could be a real military weapon (albeit a secondary, specialized one) lasted well into the 20th Century. IIRC Orwell, fighting in the Spanish Civil War, talks about how, after he was wounded, he made sure his revolver made it back to his unit: the only issued weapons they had were bolt-action rifles, and he wanted to make sure they didn't have to go on trench raids or clear houses without the compact firepower of the revolver. And that was the late '30s, not even a hundred years ago. *Because look, you can't lug around a K98, an MP40, and ammo for both. Not happening. So if you need a full-sized rifle, your options when it came time to take a door really were carrying a pistol, or just doing the job with your Lee-Enfield or whatever.

[@xxxlonewolf49]

:)

[@somefool4625]

It's harder to understand finglish, than Ian.😂