3D Printer Problem: do you know How to Fix Z-Wobble?

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@andyt1313
@andyt1313 11 ай бұрын
New to 3D printing. Oh dear god what did I get myself into.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, you got yourself in a delicious tortuous path of maddening learning 🤣❤️ Enjoy, my friend. Highly addictive for tinkerers.
@Cope_93
@Cope_93 5 ай бұрын
​@@GeekDetour sounds lovely to me. Im getting into it in like 1-2 months (just a money thing) to get a p1s. After looking around alot it seems to be the best choice for mid-high 3d Printers but as i know from experience : nothing is perfect! Those problems could appear there aswell.
@venom_ftw9316
@venom_ftw9316 4 ай бұрын
Sameeeeee, I regret it for like 3 hours a day
@NetoNogueiraCaligrafia
@NetoNogueiraCaligrafia 3 ай бұрын
Same here! "inclusive, exclusive, middle, seam, z hop, temperature, damnnnn". [edit: I am loving it, hehe]
@onomatopoeidia
@onomatopoeidia 3 ай бұрын
Nah it’s brilliant fun and rewarding. I’ve had very few issues in years and my work has paid for the printer many times over. The best $250 (actually $500 after mods..) I’ve ever spent on a tool
@KnarbMakes
@KnarbMakes 11 ай бұрын
The journey of finding this problem mimics a lot of my experience with FDM printers. You start getting a bit crazy after a while, bordering into the realm of superstition. Great job engaging us all the way through, I love a good problem to try and noodle on. Happy Holidays
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Absolutely - printers got so much better recently, but even so: from time to time you get at least very puzzling models that refuse to print the way you hoped. I enjoy the mastery of the hobby (when you are not running against the clock). Happy holidays for you and your loved ones 🎄❤️
@4thfrom7
@4thfrom7 11 ай бұрын
"Bordering on the realm of superstition" is soooo true about this hobby. 😂
@deltav1984
@deltav1984 11 ай бұрын
​@@4thfrom7I was going to say the exact same. 👌 They nailed it with that description. I then proceeded with my ritualistic chanting around my Z axis in prayer as i begin my next print 😅😅 (I think I should see someone about this habit LOL)
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 11 ай бұрын
Remember to recite your daily canticles.
@ElijahRhyne
@ElijahRhyne 11 ай бұрын
All hail the omnissiah
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 8 ай бұрын
Ran a 100 Ender 3 farm at one point. The problem you're experiencing is due to debris inside the threads of the brass Z-Rod guide. You have to disassemble and remove the rod to clean the brass threads inside the guide. Cleaning and lubricating the rod without disassembly can move the debris out of the threads in the brass, but eventually the debris will build up again and cause the issue. As you can imagine the issue can present itself more often in a dusty environment . Also, sometimes the rods are over greased from the factory and debri sticks to the grease and gunks up the brass guide.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I loved your advice: hard to beat the experience of running a Big printing farm 👍 Do you have a favorite way of cleaning the Rods?
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 8 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour hot water, Dawn detergent, and a bristle brush. Dry the rod (and brass guide) completely with a super absorbent car-wash microfiber towel that leaves no lint behind and then LIGHTLY spray one THIN coat of Corrosion X Lubricant. She'll glide smooth and need little maintenance after that.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Oh, you really take the rods off and treat them good! I only did that twice in one printer. I want to try POM nuts, it seems they should run dry.
@craigjoe8691
@craigjoe8691 8 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour never tried the POM nuts, but if they work, they work. Now I'm curious about them again. I may order a set. Sigh, the tinkering never ends 😅
@martcroft111
@martcroft111 7 ай бұрын
Did this solve the problem?
@mantassidabras2921
@mantassidabras2921 11 ай бұрын
I really like how you engage and solve the problem, makes me feel like a participant. Usually people just go straight into the problem and give some generic solution with little depth. Also I appreciate the book recommendation, goes immediately into my shopping basket. ❤
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you! I am happy you enjoyed the storytelling of the process! I had to reenact some of it - the only thing I had REALLY recorded well at the time was the parts that were getting out of the printer, and not much more.
@elisonfss
@elisonfss 11 ай бұрын
My big brother is a Great teacher!!! Teaching using questions and making everyone start thinking with him! Perfect storytelling!!!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
🤭 Bro… you are selling me too well 😂
@remotepinecone
@remotepinecone 2 ай бұрын
I don't like how its not in the manual and its not something the printer can understand on its own do they have any sensors at all or is that only on expensive ones..?
@YALE70
@YALE70 10 ай бұрын
Yep, you nailed it. I spent the better part of a year trying to pinpoint this issue on my S1 and even went to the extreme of installing oldham couplers and anti-backlash nuts on the printer - neither of which made an appreciable difference and if anything, those parts (or at least the way I installed them) contributed more to the rods binding than they did to resolve anything. I retained the oldham couplers but loosened the screws on the gantry as you said, and also removed the anti-backlash nuts, assuming the additional thread and spring pressure were adding friction to the rods. Immediate improvement to the part surface. My thanks for your fantastic troubleshooting!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
You have no idea how much I loved reading your comment! Thanks! Very often, when I am working on a video, I overthink things… and imagine: “geeez, isn’t this super boring, or trivial?!” 🤣 Crazy how adding parts, even when they are designed to improve, can actually make it worse. I am happy for you!
@alteredworks
@alteredworks 11 ай бұрын
Lead screw binding typically manifests as a regular repeating pattern that matches the lead distance of the screw. One thing not mentioned is that debris in the extruder can cause this as it will change the flow rate while printing.
@weissefabrik
@weissefabrik 11 ай бұрын
omffffffffffffffg thx so much...im an expert, but am the biggest newbie at the same time, seing this.
@jpeero
@jpeero 11 ай бұрын
just came back to say that i had this problem, although not as severe, and took your advice and loosened the screws. made a massive difference right off the hope. printing so much better now. thank you for making this video.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
That’s so nice to know! Thanks for sharing it with me ❤️Merry Christmas 🎄
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 11 ай бұрын
Oh the book author is Sean the "3D Print General" who has been banned from KZbin for intransparent and likely bogus reasons, big machinery gone wrong. I'm sure he'll appreciate the support.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’ve been following his drama and it scares the B-Jesus out of me! I hope it helps a bit 👍🍀
@johnbeima6413
@johnbeima6413 11 ай бұрын
It was not in-transparent. It was because he had discussed printing firearms on his channel.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 11 ай бұрын
@@johnbeima6413 That's not against the rules. Major channels like Vox have also shown 3D printed guns.
@johnbeima6413
@johnbeima6413 11 ай бұрын
@@SianaGearz Actually it is. :) Read the new terms. He even mentioned he had been warned about it before.
@aoife8415
@aoife8415 11 ай бұрын
he had already previously deleted his firearm related videos months ago to hedge his bets and make sure, and tried unsuccessfully to communicate with youtube directly to ensure he was in compliance. none of that mattered and they still banned him without cause. i dont know why youre so invested in caping for a huge tech company without even getting paid for it@@johnbeima6413
@trajedy-inspiredbyspiff148
@trajedy-inspiredbyspiff148 8 ай бұрын
I just got my copy of Sean's book today and after flipping through just a few pages it became obvious why this is a must have item for any 3D printer user. Thank you so much for recommending it. I am using an Elegoo Neptune 4 Max. Fortunately it's a newer revision so several of the issues that were being reported seem to have been mostly fixed. I am experiencing some minor quality issues with my prints but at least I know about Z-binding now and am hopeful that some lubrication on the rods will clear it up before it gets any worse. Great work!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
I am glad you liked Sean’s book - I bought mine in July last year and I really thought it deserved more exposure. But I had to wait for the right video to show it. 🤗
@trajedy-inspiredbyspiff148
@trajedy-inspiredbyspiff148 8 ай бұрын
Hi again. I finally got a print I'm happy with and just need to sort out some minor Z-binding. I was wondering if there is a specific type and / or brand of lubricant you recommend? I am fairly certain all that is happening is minor Z-binding but until I grease the rods I won't really know lol.@@GeekDetour
@ArcheusXII
@ArcheusXII Ай бұрын
As someone trying to get into 3D Printing I love this guy's approach of explaining why something can cause the same issue, how it causes the issue, and a clear explanation on how to fix it even if it didn't fix the problem.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour Ай бұрын
Oh, thank you! I got a few comments saying: “why wasting our time! Go straight to the issue!” Or “you didn’t really discover anything, you could not reproduce the problem!” 😂 It’s impossible to make everybody happy. Your comment made my day ❤️
@rudycandu1633
@rudycandu1633 11 ай бұрын
Your problem trying to reproduce the binding issue reminded me of something I discovered as a beta tester for a camera flash wireless trigger. I'm not saying that you are having the same problem, just that it was a problem that appeared under very specific conditions. The design had a slide in battery tray. The tray had a arrow like shape at the end of the tray. In combination with the internal latch allowed of the battery tray to be locked in place when you pushed the tray into the cavity. Pushing again on the tray would release the latch and a spring would push out the tray a few centimetres. It was a satisfying mechanism to use. When I unboxed it it worked properly. But after a few days it stopped working. It would unlatch and release the battery tray. But when putting the battery tray back in it would not lock in anymore. All the radios had the same problem. What I determined was that it was a humidity problem. If I would blow into the battery compartment, after a minute, the latch would work properly again. Wait a couple of hours and the problem would return. I received the radios in January, in winter. Winters are cold and dry here. At the time I measured the indoor humidity to be about 10% relative humidity. What was happening was the plastic was drying out and that affected the operation of the latching mechanism. The manufacture had not experienced anything like this in their development. They were in Hong Kong and they never experience such dry conditions there. They did a slight design change and their second beta units, and later production, never experience the same failure.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Amazing story! Thank you so much for taking the time to write it down and share it with me/us all ❤️ I enjoy troubleshooting - and product development seems SO COOL. Unless everybody is with a tight deadline 😬
@TechieSewing
@TechieSewing 11 ай бұрын
Your storytelling is impeccable, love it!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
That is very kind, thank you! Welcome to the channel and have a lovely Christmas 🤶🎄🎁🎉🎊🥂
@nx6062
@nx6062 6 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you so much! This is the second time you've saved my prints. I encountered the mysterious blobs issue a while back and after seeing your video, reformatted the SD card I use and got smooth prints again (I now assume memory fragmentation made it slow, as it had been used for astrophotography with many write/erase/rewrite cycles). Now, I had a slight layer shift issue, so slight that I couldn't tell if it was Z binding or actual layer shift. I adjusted the bolts on my rods like you did out of despair after trying everything, and it now prints good as new! Thank you so much for making these videos. They are treasures of information, so well explained and documented, so useful!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 6 ай бұрын
Wow 🤩 I read your comment two days ago - only had time to answer now. THANK YOU! You made my day. Each video takes A LOT of time… and sometimes you wonder if it is really worth the effort. Messages like yours give me strength to go on❤️
@SFzip
@SFzip 5 ай бұрын
This reminds me of why the technician charged $10,000 to get the factory machine running again. The technician said, "Turning the screw only takes 10 seconds and it's free, but the $10,000 is for knowing which screw to turn."
@orlovsskibet
@orlovsskibet 3 ай бұрын
I've always hated this story. All the hours (or the vast majority of them) he spent learning which screws to turn, he was getting paid by someone.
@defdaz
@defdaz 2 ай бұрын
@@orlovsskibet Very odd statement. Who says he's self-employed at the time? He could be working for the same company and so it's reaping the rewards. And besides, why does it matter how his expertise has been gained? It's utterly irrelevant. You're paying for his ability to fix the issue quickly, that's it.
@simonr23
@simonr23 2 ай бұрын
@@orlovsskibet but thats the capitalism system that society wants. you charge what you can. people dont want any modern versions of communism or socialism (well, except for corporations - they love to socialise losses).
@orlovsskibet
@orlovsskibet 2 ай бұрын
@@simonr23 I have zero clue what you are talking about.
@WhiteWolfos
@WhiteWolfos 2 ай бұрын
​​@@simonr23 so you'd like to see society charge 10$ rate for a doctor to save a life and 10$ for a factory worker to put a toy in a box and 10$ for a government run restaurant employee to flip a burger? In that case, why should a doctor/mechanic, or technician spend years to learn the knowledge and skills to earn 10$? Aside from pure totalitarian societies, even Communist societies don't work that way. They still pay better skilled and educated workers better than a common laborer. Only difference is communist regime has more control over your life blocking you from moving to a different region or working outside of a list you're given (unless you score high on education which gives you the ability to jump to a higher grade region). That's because the government controls supply and demand by force. If they need 500t of metal chairs they get 500T of metal chairs by forcing more people and businesses on that list to make them. It's more brute force which is worse for the environment because often times materials, equipment and buildings get abandoned or destroyed and such traffic for forcing supply often pollutes rivers and underground water and other resources more.
@Racecar564
@Racecar564 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this! My Ender 3 Neo not days ago started to have some nasty wobble, sometimes even a millimeter or two to the side! I was just as confused as you were! Sure enough, those screws you showed, I had tightened way too much. Per craigjoe's recommendation here, I scrubbed the Z-rod & brass fitting with dish soap & water, lubed them up, and put it back together, this time making sure the screws were loose enough to let the parts move a little. Presto, no more issue!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour Ай бұрын
Hey! That’s great! I am glad you could fix it! ❤️
@mirjalol.bahodirov
@mirjalol.bahodirov 8 ай бұрын
Hello Sir! Thanks for such a useful explanation. You acted like an actor, despite that fact you are engineer, respect! I have never seen such a guide which is recorded by heart! Just respect!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you so much! ❤️ If by heart you mean that I love it, that’s true: I am completely in love with 3D Printing since I got my first printer. Now, if “by heart” you mean “by memory”, here is the trick: when I try to memorize my points and speak them out, I basically freeze and I forget so much stuff… I write down the complete texts for my videos - when I record, I am actually reading. English is not my first language, so, I use a teleprompter 🤗
@mirjalol.bahodirov
@mirjalol.bahodirov 8 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour I meant overall work: 3D print engineering and also video recording. Keep it on! P.S. English is not my native language also. Hello from Uzbekistan 👋👋
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s… awesome! Cheers from Spain 🇪🇸 (I am actually from Brazil 🇧🇷, but we came to Spain 14 years ago).
@B0M0A0K
@B0M0A0K 11 ай бұрын
That was a great diagnostic video and a thoroughly logical approach to solving a 3D printer issue. You are so right when you say "if you don't like doing 3D diagnostics, you won't like 3D printing". I easily spend a lot of time in diagnostic mode with mine. Above all else though, I really liked your colour palets, it just made the whole thing that more enjoyable to watch. You must have spent days printing all these test parts.
@Lensman64
@Lensman64 Ай бұрын
Update: I bought the book "3D Printing Failures" as mentioned and it's certainly worth the price. It's pretty comprehensive and a good (technical) read but as mentioned in this video, it is not mentioned in the book. Almost everything else is. I'm still having the same issues and Creality just sent me new rods but I don't think that's it. To date I have a complete new hotbed and now new rods. This is a very useful video. Thank you! I am having the same exact issue with a slight difference: I can make two back to back prints, same file, same exact settings and one comes out (fairly) good and the other like crap! I tried every type of calibration, checked the hardware, rods are straight, and still get what you experienced but it's entirely random and not successive like yours. It's the most frustrating thing because I only have one printer and nothing to check it against. I thought that's how prints were supposed to look until I produced a silky smooth wall at random. I'm looking at a lithophane I printed and vertically one half of the print is smooth as can be and the other is jaggy as can be. How does one explain and troubleshoot that? I'm 100% convinced my printer is a lemon as it's been nothing but trouble from the start (now 9 months old). It's an Ender 3 V3 KE. I've been conversing wtih Creality for about 3 months with no solutions. In addition to the prints like yours, I can not get a respectable first layer no matter what I try, and I've tried everything. Frustrating to the max!
@thatguyfromca
@thatguyfromca 6 ай бұрын
You have the voice to read audio books.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 6 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks! ❤️ You made my day! I think I would love to do that - the challenge is that English is not my native language and I make many weird pronunciations - that I correct as much as possible… editing takes a lot of time 😅
@J.Christ807
@J.Christ807 5 ай бұрын
I agree. I was thinking the same thing.
@ValdoMarx
@ValdoMarx Ай бұрын
Awesome to come across this tutorial, when I assembled my CR-10 SE a couple of weeks ago, I felt the nuts were a bit loose, and so I tightened them... The prints were not bad, but I will loosen the nuts to the original "setting" and run a print again. Thanks for the sharing the knowledge, bet a lot of guys may have made the same mistake.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour Ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, A LOT of people post in forums “hey, look how loose this thing came from the factory!”
@FPV-Drones
@FPV-Drones 6 ай бұрын
No matter what happened to the printers... your voice IS so great!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much @FPV-Drones 🤗 You made my day!
@oscardiggs246
@oscardiggs246 20 күн бұрын
Just bought my first printer and I am glad I found this. A great video and a great comments section. I don’t have this problem, but if it arises I will have an idea where to start looking. Thanks for this.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 19 күн бұрын
Hi! I am happy you got more information to help you in your 3D Printing journey! Welcome to our maddening lovely hobby ❤️🤣
@CreativeSteve69
@CreativeSteve69 11 ай бұрын
I really loved how you tackled the problem you found yourself in. Also it's great to see another video upload from you again in such a long time as well. Wishing you a happy holidays Geek. :)
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! ❤️🎄🎊🎉
@marsgizmo
@marsgizmo 11 ай бұрын
excellent tutorial! 👏
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Adrian! Thanks man! ❤️ Merry Christmas for you and Mihai 🎄🎁
@misohlavati
@misohlavati 8 ай бұрын
When David Altenburg retires, you can take his place as a narrator. But to be fair, very, very detailed and well made video!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
My goodness! I wish! For me, a documentary only feels like a REAL documentary when it has Attenborough’s voice. He is awesome! Thanks ❤️
@TheThigoron
@TheThigoron 11 ай бұрын
It's crazy that this was uploaded so recently. I got this exact issue and was debugging it and then I found this. Also, excellent frikkin video my dude. Extremely useful and easy to digest information
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you! 🤗 I guess there will be always a lot of people debugging this problem 🤣 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@kongchho8547
@kongchho8547 11 ай бұрын
There's still a lot of people with machines like this so it's great that you address your problems with them.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, thanks! That’s true! And you know what? For a lot of people, the most satisfied machines are the ones you can actually mess with, add stuff, change parts… It is cool to have a machine that does great and you just hit print… but I wouldn’t be happy without having at least one machine that is always open in a constant state of change.
@mvelentzas
@mvelentzas 10 ай бұрын
I had this problem on a Ultimaker 2+ years ago and oddly I couldn't find any information about it online. But the dead giveaway was that the surface imperfections always happened at the same layer height. Thank you for taking the time to explain this!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, you are absolutely true: each Z-Lead Screws has an imperfection signature. We can make it less visible - but probably never really get 100% uniform and without ANY visible line when put under a harsh light. I’ve been thinking a lot about it… maybe I’LL come up with an idea to make it different.
@dirediredude
@dirediredude 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. FYI those lead screw nuts don't only need adjustments occasionally, but they are considered a consumable part as well so they will need to be replaced periodically depending on your use. They're soft brass so they wear down relatively quickly if you're printing frequently. All part of the process of owning and maintaining a printer 👍
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Hi Dude! Yeah man, so true! People are commenting I should try POM nuts - I’ll give it s shot. Merry Christmas my friend! 🎄🎁
@ДенисЗайцев-э1ф
@ДенисЗайцев-э1ф 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour Polyamide (PA) is a very durable material, I have often seen a polyamide gear wear out a hardened steel gear! This material only seems weak, but in fact it is one of the most wear-resistant polymers
@LampDoesVideogame
@LampDoesVideogame 11 ай бұрын
I've been using 3 of the same printers for over 3 years, they all have the exact same backlash nuts they came with. 6 months ago, I cleaned them for the first time. Still working perfectly.
@dirediredude
@dirediredude 11 ай бұрын
@@LampDoesVideogame that's awesome. Not sure how often you print or if you're just still within tolerance but I can assure you it's a wear part, that's how they're designed. They're made of soft brass.
@exen900
@exen900 9 ай бұрын
Had the exact same issue on my S1, leveld the Z-Gantry again, the Z-Nuts were extremely tight on one side, adjusted the V-Wheels again and it works like it should again. Thanks for the video getting me to the point of failure
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 11 ай бұрын
I actually love troubleshooting problems like this. Even though it can get rather frustrating, the satisfaction after you find the problem and come up with a solution is wonderful. I fought a stubborn over extrusion issue in my anycubic kobra 2 for months. I calibrated the esteps multiple times and they were dead on. Temp changes didn't help and it happened with every filament. It happened from brand new and out of the box. I was able to mitigate it with flow settings in cura but i constantly had to adjust them as no single flow rate resolved it. One printe might work great at 95% whereas another world be best at 70%. It was maddening. I went through 5 brand new nozzles so that couldn't be it... could it? I finally changed to standard volcano nozzles and low and behold flow is dead on now.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! The A-ha moment after a maddening chase… LOVE IT! Thanks for sharing!
@biggs85
@biggs85 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I’m having the same issue with my Kobra Plus that has a volcano. When you say standard volcano nozzles are you meaning like the genuine e3d nozzles fixed the problem or something else? Thanks!
@espi371
@espi371 11 ай бұрын
I am having this exact same problem, could i add you in discord or literally anything so I can send you pics and you can potentially confirm its the issues? New to FDM and have Kobra 2, everything was going fine but now I'm getting very frustrated.
@bwhog
@bwhog 11 ай бұрын
After your explanation, I agree, dirt is probably the greater culprit. Just goes to show that adding grease is not the only chore. You need to occasionally REMOVE the old grease in order to keep the rods free of grit.
@twanheijkoop6753
@twanheijkoop6753 11 ай бұрын
MirageC has some great videos on this type of artifact and what problems can cause them. Especially his wobbleX looks insane (although it requires a minimum weight that makes it useless for generic bedslingers) Also take a look at oldham couplers for the 3 printers shown in the video, if you buy them in bulk it might only be $20 for the 3 of them
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
I watched all of them - love it! And in my mind all the 3 printers would immediately show the wobbliness in their prints starting to when I tightened their nuts. To be clear: on a very close inspection, it happened - but it was SO DISCRETE that was impossible to see it clearly on camera. The prints were in essence “perfect” or perfectly acceptable and nobody would point the finger and say: “what happened here?”. I wanted to show a guaranteed disaster and… depending on the printer you have, it might run just fine even with coupled nuts. Makes sense? But I will definitely start modding these printers just for fun - didn’t have time to do it this year, but in 2024 I’ll hack them to my taste.
@twanheijkoop6753
@twanheijkoop6753 11 ай бұрын
​@@GeekDetour i went to Oldham couplers a month after buying my ender 3 S1 because the wobble was bad enough to impact tolerances on parts I was making. Prints look way cleaner although I still have some inconsistent layer stacking due to the extruder gears not being perfect. But i honestly didn't mind it as much until I got the vzhextrudort on my custom build which just made the sprite extruder look like shit in comparison. But I guess every print looks shit when you shine a harsh enough light from directly above.😅
@court2379
@court2379 11 ай бұрын
​@@twanheijkoop6753 You shouldn't need oldham couplers. They account for radial misalignment. A 3D printer shouldn't have significant radial misalignment as it uses the motor shaft and bearings as the support point. They do have angular misalignment because the screw isn't inline with the shaft and the printer isn't usually aligned to it either. But the flex coupling accounts for that. An oldham would require a bearing to hold the shaft as well. Another problem is if the printer supports the screw at both ends. It should only be supported at one end and by the nut, or the out of straightness will cause z-wobble. Optionally if both ends are supported, the nut must float free, only two points of radial constraint are allowed to not over constrain it and cause lateral forces. To minimize lateral forces the motor shaft should be parallel to the gantry frame (z). This could be measured by removing the coupler, mounting an indicator on the gantry, measuring the shaft, and moving it vertically. Turn the motor mounting in whichever direction eliminates the misalignment. Shims (paper would likely work fine) under the motor mounting may be needed. Then check the motor 90° to the first direction and align again, and then recheck the first direction. The motor being aligned will minimize bending of the flex coupling and side loading of the gantry as it flexes. Next straighten the lead screw as best you can. Roll it on a flat surface like float glass and gently bend it straight if it is pretty bad. Shim gauges under the middle can help you get it even straighter than you can see. Really this and runout of the coupling or motor shaft are the only things that should cause z-wobble. Misalignment will cause forces on the gantry, but they won't change as the shaft rotates, so won't cause wobble. The nut needs to be aligned to be centered with the motor shaft when they are as close together as you can get them. Loosen the nut screws and run the printer all the way to the bottom. Hang the nozzle off the edge of the bed if you can to get even closer. Then tighten the nut screws. I don't have any troubles with this on the cheapest E3 made. I didn't bother straightening the screw, and the free end wobbles visibly as it rotates. But that is OK as only two connections don't transfer loads.
@shadow368
@shadow368 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been struggling with my printer. I’ve upgraded what once was a Cr-10 V3 to now have a better hot end that can handle higher temperatures. E3D’s REVO Creality with the Obxidian nozzle. It has sadly been failing and like this video, I think I find the problem only for it to fail again. I’m still learning about this hobby and have only been in it for a couple of years now. I really appreciate this video. Whether it’s an answer to what could be wrong, I don’t know, but it’s full of a variety of things I’ve yet to check. I’ll also take a look at that book. Thank you! I love the way you explained things in the video. Very helpful.
@brentwheels
@brentwheels 11 ай бұрын
Once the z-axis lead screws are setup straight and rotate without wobble through the up/down gantry travel shouldn’t those z guide bolts be tightened? Otherwise wouldn’t you induce a little more slack in the z-axis? Great video, it seems indeed z-axis binding was the culprit.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 11 ай бұрын
You definitely don't want to leave them all loose, it will add significant uncertainty in Z height especially if you are using Z Hop (i.e. Z axis changes direction during printing)
@hamzabecerikli
@hamzabecerikli 11 ай бұрын
I had exactly such a problem. I was about to research this. And all the ways you tried came to my mind and I was going to try them. I've tried it before but I was going to test it again. After watching this video, I remembered that I saw that those screws were loose and tightened them. Thanks to you my guess was proven. Thank you for sharing this video, my friend. I subscribed and see you in your other videos.. 🙃☺
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
The screws on the LeadScrew Nut must be loosen. The nut must be able to move sideways.
@hamzabecerikli
@hamzabecerikli 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour Yes, but at the same time, my z eccentric nuts were also tight. When I loosened both of them, it was fixed. thanks a lot again
@Shul2751
@Shul2751 11 ай бұрын
I chased this demon exactly like you. I found it to be inconsistent extrusions between layers due to a deformed/off center extruder gear. Also sometimes certain colors show layers more than others
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh man, extruder issues are a whole category of demons! It really needs to be precise otherwise it is pure frustration.
@EverydayTJ
@EverydayTJ 10 ай бұрын
You are the first video i found that answered my problem. Thank you! There are so many videos that lead to a dead end. It's a relief to have an answer
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Tyler! A few people were not happy that I spent half of the video showing what was NOT the problem… but I think that’s valuable, because many “defects” look identical, but have very different roots… Showing just one ends up in a bunch of VERY specific videos. I am glad it helped you ❤️
@tekno_boy
@tekno_boy 11 ай бұрын
As an experienced user, I will say that most of the errors are related specifically to the controller board. These errors disappear after a long period of inactivity or other shamanism with a tambourine and dancing)
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
I loved “shamanism” It works. Of course 🤣 Merry Christmas my friend🎄🎁
@JackOfAllTrades-800
@JackOfAllTrades-800 10 күн бұрын
I’ve been having an issue almost exactly like this and I’ve been looking for a solution, this just randomly popped up on my feed. Maybe it won’t be so random and this’ll work. Thank you so much man 🙏
@ts_maker972
@ts_maker972 11 ай бұрын
00:03 Identifying and fixing 3D printer line issue 00:55 Identifying and fixing 3D printer printing issues 01:56 Maintain consistent temperature for better 3D printing 02:49 Loosened Lead Screw Nuts to fix Z-Wobble 03:47 Z-Binding is a common problem in 3D printers 04:41 Tightening the nuts resolved the 3D printer problem 05:37 Proper printer adjustment leads to quality prints 06:34 Troubleshoot 3D printer problems effectively
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 11 ай бұрын
4:40 He didn’t tighten the nuts. He LOOSENED them and made it clear they should be loose!
@ougonce
@ougonce 10 ай бұрын
This sounds like you fed the subtitles to ChatGPT and asked it to mark chapters
@dkmike2299
@dkmike2299 10 ай бұрын
You just wrote two different titles that contradict each other... "Loosened lead screw nuts to fix Z-Wobble" then "Tightening the nuts resolved the issue". Huh???? He didnt tighten the nuts to "resolve the issue" he was just trying to recreate it which helped him conclude the different factors that may have combined to cause the problem.
@karlgaspar9922
@karlgaspar9922 10 ай бұрын
This is super helpful! Just got into 3d printing 4 days ago, got myself a 2nd hand Ender 3 PRO. And golly I've had some print quality issues. I started with calibrating my e-steps, then bed leveling. With just those 2 things, the print quality improved but there are still imperfections in the printed product.... Will watch more of your videos hopefully to achieve better results. Thanks!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
I am so happy you enjoyed the video - and Welcome to 3D Printing!!! You probably already figured out how addictive this thing is… be careful: one printer becomes two… then 4… you risk getting a divorce or having to move to a bigger place 😄
@karlgaspar9922
@karlgaspar9922 10 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour woahhhh didnt expect a reply from you! It is very addicting. I doubt the divorce part since my wife is enjoying it more than I do. 2nd printer is on its way even tho I havent mastered this one yet lol. Greay channel and great vids! Looking forward to more of your content.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
That’s beautiful! 🫶 Enjoy the printers, my friend. And if you spend some time watching tutorials, learning Fusion 360 (you can create a free hobby account) is will 100% be worth your effort. It is such a satisfaction to design your very own functional parts and do nice fixes and improvements in your house. Have a beautiful 2024 🥂 More videos coming soon!
@pipdesignshop
@pipdesignshop 11 ай бұрын
That’s good to know, tightening everything isn’t the solution. Some things are meant to work loose. It emphasizes the importance of knowing how to troubleshoot your own printer. 👍
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s the take away here! Troubleshooting and maintenance 👍 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@MrDonGrinch
@MrDonGrinch 11 ай бұрын
I don't have a 3d printer, but this video is so well done, it is exciting to watch even for a non printing geek!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
I am so happy you enjoyed it even without having a 3D Printer. Please, stay far from the printers… you’ve been warned! Extremely addictive hobby 🤣
@Shika1son
@Shika1son 11 ай бұрын
Nice video! I think one thing you could infer is that there could be some debris that somehow got into the lead screw nuts themselves. I noticed you were using brass nuts and I had that on my Ender 5 Plus initially. I decided to go with the anti backlash POM nuts instead and they did wonderfully. POM is self lubricating and has low friction that shouldn't cause much z binding. Also, dual extruder gears could be an issue too as maybe the idler gear could be shifting side to side changing its effective extrusion rate. I know Mirage3D and some others did a video on that one. Hope this insight helps anyone and Happy Holidays! 😊
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely! MIRAGE3D videos are a MUST! Thanks for the POM suggestion, it will be in my list to try out!
@Shika1son
@Shika1son 11 ай бұрын
No prob! Hope they'll help you out. 😁
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, it has been printing nice since I recorded the incident. BUT I love to tinker
@Sevensup
@Sevensup 8 ай бұрын
Subscribed! I appreciate you showing your initial mistakes until finding the correct solution...thank you!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
So great that you liked it 🤗 Very often I get the opposite in some comments: “Hey man! Go straight to the point! Don’t tell us a story!”
@Hiltomatt
@Hiltomatt 11 ай бұрын
My Guess loose x y arms and also belts. So glad I watched this. Once my current print finishes, I'm going to check these as I had noticed some of this chatter too.
@pauliussernasracing6251
@pauliussernasracing6251 11 ай бұрын
This video has helped me to save quite a bunch of money and unnecessary parts replacing!
@workforth
@workforth Ай бұрын
Bought myself a 3d printer last week. it worked the first day then out of a sudden it stopped extruding filament mid-printing. I could not figure it out what went wrong for 3 hours then suddenly I realize maybe the tip is jammed. and sure enough it was. fixed it. now its running fine. A few hiccups here and there, other than that I am starting to love 3d printing. Long way to go!!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour Ай бұрын
The journey is the big reward here! Welcome to this amazingly maddening great hobby
@workforth
@workforth Ай бұрын
​​@@GeekDetourthe more I get to know this field the more I realize there's a lot more to learn. Great content BTW. Thanks.
@workforth
@workforth Ай бұрын
​@@BlondieHappyGuy ​ I did even tried extrude and retract, tried pulling the filament also. it was really stuck. I had to heatup the hotend then poke the nozzle with a fine needle (provided with printer) back and forth only then I was able to unclog the head. Working fine since then.
@workforth
@workforth 29 күн бұрын
@@BlondieHappyGuy Well, Thanks. I will keep this in mind. BTW do I really need a enlosure for 3D printer to print with PETG or TPU?
@workforth
@workforth 28 күн бұрын
​@@BlondieHappyGuy Thank you so much. I also placed spool on top a few days ago just to save some space, didn't knew that it will be helpful in printing as well. I will try to fiddle with settings for TPU. Also I am thinking of making a make shift enclose with some leftover 3mm MDF board I have. Will let you know how it goes. Thanks again. :)
@andrewut7ya511
@andrewut7ya511 11 ай бұрын
Remarkable timing. This just popped up as im in the middle of a massive job. 5 printers, 24/7 for 3 months ... just started noticing a bit of z binding but didnt know what it was, and them this video shows up... thanks ! Also i will be buying that book!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Hi Andre, Andrew? 🤗 Thanks man! I am glad it came for you in the right moment 👍 Please tell me later if it worked! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@indalecio21
@indalecio21 8 ай бұрын
Why dont you add more printers?
@andrewut7ya511
@andrewut7ya511 8 ай бұрын
@@indalecio21 the reason im limited to 5 printers is electricity and space. We keep them all in 1 office to regulate temperature and while we could fit more on the tabls there is only only enough circuits for 5 printers and a laser. We had plenty of time before prints are being used so rather than dedicate another office to printing im just playing the slow game lol. Also we normally dont do large volume printing so i dont want to be stuck with 8 machines that wont get used.
@galacticviper4453
@galacticviper4453 3 ай бұрын
I've been printing since 2017 when I got a Prusa Mk2. Have had 6 different printers since then, all of them Prusa. Never once has this issue.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 3 ай бұрын
Hi there! I believe YOU didn’t, but it happens also with Prusa owners: forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-xl-tool-changer-assembly-and-first-prints-troubleshooting/z-banding-or-z-wobble-do-we-have-a-solution-yet/?language=cs
@adriannp.
@adriannp. 8 ай бұрын
My first 3D prints were horrible. From bad calibration to bad PLA filaments, humidity, bad spare parts from factory, software config issues, my own 3d files not well done, etc. I solved those problems, and my ender 3 prints quite well, but too much hours spent on and no works done after all, thats why i quit and i only see videos, for entertain and learn more. PD: Absolutly amazing channel you have man, good job, and amazing book too, subscribed!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Than you Adrian! Oh man, I hope you can give it a new try again soon - there are amazing new printers that give you excellent results with little headaches. Bambu Lab sent me a P1S and it is such a great machine. Sure, everything needs maintenance to keep working fine. But their profiles are so well tuned… it is a breeze to print.
@adriannp.
@adriannp. 8 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour I think the ender 3 is still a smart choice to start in this world, but as you say (totally agreed) there are more new printers, with better results and less headbaches. Greetings from Spain!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 7 ай бұрын
Greetings from Guadalajara (Spain too 🇪🇸) 🤣
@Mikey4ever1s
@Mikey4ever1s 3 ай бұрын
Get a Bambu Lab p1s my friend, i do prints with just pressing a 1 fking button lol for real bro pls give u a new try pls !!
@DandaPanda420
@DandaPanda420 4 ай бұрын
This is real example of Murphy's Law😂
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 4 ай бұрын
Why? Just because I could not reproduce the problem months later? Nah… 🤣❤️
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video man. Lovely how those issues just creep up on you
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! What you mean man? It happens to you too! (ha ha ha, I hope) I just like to talk about them 🤣 Merry Christmas @UncleJessy Always nice to see you here 🎄🍾🥂
@lothianmcadam1
@lothianmcadam1 6 ай бұрын
Why couldn't you begin this video with the solution? instead, I had to click to the end and scroll backwards. Click to 3:15.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 6 ай бұрын
Well, my YT analytics are indicating that most people enjoy to learn all the possibilities that I discuss in the video. I cannot make everybody happy 🤷‍♂️
@carelhaasbroek1575
@carelhaasbroek1575 Ай бұрын
Because id like to understand the underlying mechanical issue so i can learn and diagnose better in the future
@rubenvandebelt8979
@rubenvandebelt8979 11 ай бұрын
writing this just after you said you checked everything, but what a lot of people forget to check is if the hot-end is still tight against the gantry. gave me a lot of trouble once before. dont know if that is the answer, but if you're saying you checked everything, that should be on the list.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Makes sense! Another person also commented he suffered from a nozzle that as not really tight - never happened to me but it will be in my checklist now ❤️
@xBenedictumx
@xBenedictumx 11 ай бұрын
dont ever use lithium grease for your z rods..... use dry teflon lube.
@nathangmail-user8860
@nathangmail-user8860 4 ай бұрын
Why?
@samueldiazrios6474
@samueldiazrios6474 Ай бұрын
Why tho?
@pro97200
@pro97200 Ай бұрын
Wow !! Easiest cheapest and fastest fix ever ! This fix solved my z-banding problem on my old cr20 v1 fully customized like XYZ linear railed & stuff (lot of) = now it prints like never before, for free ! Many thanks !!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 29 күн бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing ❤️ I am glad it helped! 3D Printing well depends on so many factors, right? You can have a machine full of great components, and yet printing less than ideal due to a single silliness 😄
@jonathanmora8208
@jonathanmora8208 8 ай бұрын
Ill save you all 7:28 min . Just tensor every belt correctly and thats it. Bye.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
I‘ll save you weeks of frustration: belts are just part of it. Besides correct tensioning, you need to keep rods and ZNuts lubricated.
@pbft.j
@pbft.j 11 ай бұрын
My initial guess, not having read any other comments, I'm 0:20 seconds in. Check your belt tension. That's my initial gut reaction. It could also be the tension of the bed screws (one coming loose) or the tension of the x axis. Something is loose, I believe. edit: HAHA! Nooooo. to be fair, it was based on ONLY the print. I didn't have any info other than the first 24 seconds or so. That was fun, actually. As someone that is constantly helping people fix their printers on reddit, that was fun. Subscribed.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!!! I am glad you enjoyed the game ❤️
@KROKODYLCZ
@KROKODYLCZ 4 ай бұрын
I discovered your channel today, with this video. Very pleasant conversation, a lot of information provided by a human being, like from a friend who sits at the table with me. Thank you, you have another follower and I can gain experience from. Good luck to you.
@dcpesses
@dcpesses 11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to try this when I get back from my vacation! I’ve had the same issue with my Neptune 3 Pro for a few months and couldn’t find a simple and easy way to troubleshoot. This should get me back on my game in no time!
@timhooglandyt
@timhooglandyt 11 ай бұрын
Your voice is so soothing to listen to. Great video.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh thank you so much! Specially about the voice 🥰 🤣 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁🥂🎊
@SimonKirkman-f8h
@SimonKirkman-f8h 11 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the video.. Appreciate the time taken.... Been printing for a number years and it’s always good to learn more...
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Great to hear that! Welcome to the channel and Merry Christmas!
@ryanbower000
@ryanbower000 9 ай бұрын
I spent months trying to figure it out. I gave up and a week later I see this, thank you so much
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 9 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! 😂 I am happy it helped you!
@bwines16
@bwines16 4 ай бұрын
Love that you couldn’t recreate the problem. It’s like when I ask for help with something and someone finally comes to my desk and the problem has completely resolved itself.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s why some software bugs are very hard to catch: there are corner cases that require specific factors that can be very circumstantial.
@bwines16
@bwines16 4 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour oh definitely. Mines usually an error when writing a function in excel. the format type is usually my most common error. So annoying. Haven’t had too many issues with my printer thankfully. I’m better at solving code problems than hardware.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 4 ай бұрын
Mechanical domains have a bigger set of uncontrollable variables 🤣 On a previous life I was a software developer too - so long ago most of what I used now is old fashion, ha ha.
@bwines16
@bwines16 4 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour one of my first college courses was an Access course, so I feel ya a bit!
@zahirbabun6663
@zahirbabun6663 11 ай бұрын
Your video really hooked me, i was really impressed with the quality of your video, keep it up man!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! It means a lot to me ❤️ Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones! 🎄🎊🎉
@musikmaker19
@musikmaker19 10 ай бұрын
This is a seriously well researched and executed video! Sincerely impressed.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you! That means a lot to me; because it is true: some videos get in the making for many months until I get the idea mature ❤️
@Reds3DPrinting
@Reds3DPrinting 11 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is like my ender 3 vs my a1 mini quality comparison. Thank you for the video Geek Detour!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! 🤣👍 Loved the comparison 🤣 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁 and welcome to my channel!
@exotixfaze1220
@exotixfaze1220 11 ай бұрын
I don't even have a 3d printer but these videos are so entertaining
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
That sounds crazy to me, ha ha ha. NOT! But I have a guess that, if you think it is interesting, there might be a 3D Printer in your future - a cautionary advice: it is super addictive 🤣 Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@HelperBot5000_
@HelperBot5000_ 7 ай бұрын
I had the same issue with my prints on an Ender 3. I lubricated the Z axis rods and tightened everything I could find. Of course it's the one thing that's supposed to be loose that was the issue, it probably was tight from binding up and I just secured it more. Thank you so much.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 7 ай бұрын
My pleasure man! Thanks for sharing!
@YH_1917
@YH_1917 9 ай бұрын
I love the way you say merry Christmas that was really good after problem solving
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 9 ай бұрын
When we are having a problem and someone helps us to fix it, feels like a Christmas Gift, doesn’t it? 😁 🎄🎅 🎁 Thanks!
@CodeByCradle
@CodeByCradle 19 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for demonstrating the troubleshooting procedure and attempting to replicate the problem. This is an excellent video for beginners like me!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 18 сағат бұрын
You're welcome! The important thing is the way to think, testing things separately until we discover what’s wrong ❤️ Thanks!
@HamHound
@HamHound 9 ай бұрын
i bought the book soon after buying my printer and it has saved my butt more times than i can count
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 9 ай бұрын
It is a very nice book! Sean surely put lots of time into it!
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 10 ай бұрын
Just my two cents... after years of tweaking my old ender 3 pro, it prints small parts nearly as clean as my Voron. What I found most useful for inconsistencies like this was polycarbonate wheels on the Z axis (not for X/Y) and POM anti-backlash nuts on both lead screws. Anti-backlash is optional but I can't recommend POM nuts enough. Seriously, you'll wish you tried them sooner. They are self lubricating but I use a dry lube as well, which keeps dirt from accumulating like grease and I've had no issues with wear. Before anything I strongly recommend people go through and get the frame and gantry as square as absolutely possible. This can make a huge difference. Stabilizing bars can help further if you print fast and can help keep the frame aligned. I'm not a fan of flexible Z motor couplers if you can avoid them and I personally have the top of my lead screws loosely secured with pillow bearings, primarily due to my dual-Z mod but this can make things worse if people aren't careful and/or if the screws are very warped. For some printers, flexible anti-backlash couplers are helpful but I think most people can avoid it with proper setup.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Very nice comment! I second everything you said. Well, the POM nuts I still need to try - lots of people talking wonders about them here in the comments. About squaring the frame and specially the Gantry: true! It was the first thing I did to my old Ender 3, the full “x gantry rework”.
@flasham4148
@flasham4148 11 ай бұрын
A very cool video! I like the way you explain things and walk the viewer through the video. Keep it up!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!!! I’ll keep doing it, yeah! I love making videos about 3D Printing and Arduinos (I am neglecting Arduinos, I have so many things in my list!)
@ValerioAmedei
@ValerioAmedei 11 ай бұрын
Owning a Neptune 4 Pro by a month and an half, couldn't figure out why it was reccommended not to tighten those screws (and and I was also mislead by others to tighten them) Aside the fact that it will work better in a state or the other, I wanted to know the reason behind it, needless to say I love your work!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words. MirageC has excellent videos explaining and demonstrating how the nuts work and why it is important to decouple lateral movement. They are EXCELLENT and here is one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6K2gputpritrMksi=X-eEC4E2SA49M_1q
@ValerioAmedei
@ValerioAmedei 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour now I hate you. Sooner or later I will need to build a couple of those even if I know I don't need them at all °°
@ValerioAmedei
@ValerioAmedei 11 ай бұрын
​ @GeekDetour By the way, my CNC journey started with building a CO2 Laser Cutter from scratch. At one point I needed custom parts and here I am in the 3D Printing world. I'm Happy to see your laser journey started too! Can't wait to new laser video too! ^^
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos. They are beautifully put together and your voice is so easy for me to focus on. It's smooth as silk. 😄
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, thank you! Very kind words!! I hope you had a beautiful Christmas 🎄🤗
@heavydutydavid5020
@heavydutydavid5020 9 ай бұрын
I find his voice annoying.
@Mister0String
@Mister0String 11 ай бұрын
Short yet comprehensive. Thanks for the book tip, never heard of it until now. 3D printing is such an inspiration yet so many moving parts plus the job of printing our inventions, it's a big ask. no wonder it goes wrong but when it's right 🎉
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, in the end, it is like a tiny factory.
@ZERONEINNOVATIONS
@ZERONEINNOVATIONS 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! When I assembled my CR10V3, those nuts were extremely loose. At the time, I was told by many KZbinrs to tighten every loose bolts on 3d printer so I did.....
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
The advice is correct, for structural things. The body of the printer should be as rigid as possible. But v-slow wheels have an ideal pressure: should just tight enough to not have wobbliness, but tighter than that is bad. The z-Nuts on the ideal world should be tight. But in most printers, having them a bit lose allowing free lateral movement is better than really tight. One thing is certain: lubrication is really important.
@pencilcore6457
@pencilcore6457 10 ай бұрын
You are my lifesaver! My ender3 is not only having this issue, it would stick at a certain point and not going up anymore, now this is also solved, thank you!!!❤❤
@pencilcore6457
@pencilcore6457 10 ай бұрын
Your video deserves more attention, all others says to get tighter, but you the opposite one.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Thank you VERY much for letting me know how it helped you! It makes me supper happy!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Oh, this video is getting traction very well - I think it will reach the attention it needs to change most of the (bad) advice people share around. It is not the first video telling that the nuts must be loosened - but it is already, by far, the most watched one in the topic. I cannot ask for more 🤗
@duller9430
@duller9430 11 ай бұрын
Return of the king
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha, thanks! King?! I wish!
@OPGuitarandGames
@OPGuitarandGames 10 ай бұрын
Superb video ! I have only been in the 3D printing wolrd for less than a month and this really helped me figure out some inconsistencies on my prints. Thanks for the book link also.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Hello! Happy 2024 🥂🎉 Oh, I am so happy my vídeo helped you in your journey! Thanks for letting me know! Welcome to the channel! I have lots of 3D Printing experiments on the go - they take time, but I am very optimistic because I finally have a much better space to work 🤗
@joeb6750
@joeb6750 6 ай бұрын
For anyone still lost or just curious Z binding can happen numerous ways. Your rods can be bent The rod(s) may not truly be perpendicular to the gantry (you may have a loose rod or improperly installed) Your gantry may be a little tight There may be physical obstruction within the threads that can cause minor friction thats hard to notice - this can be debris or some gnarled threads. Loosening the screws to a minor degree can potentially solve some minor tolerance issues but they should not be so loose that they float
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 6 ай бұрын
You are right! Many things can cause this problem. That’s why I started the video exploring different possibilities ❤️
@friendlyattack1181
@friendlyattack1181 11 ай бұрын
Love your work man, the one about the accordion player is just pure class
@boonhobo
@boonhobo 11 ай бұрын
As weird as it is, ambient temperature of the room causing the metal in the entire printer to expand-contract? I work in a factory that involves drilling holes into copper laden laminate. Different temperatures, especially between seasons can cause the copper to expand and contract ever so slightly, this is enough to cause misalignment between parts requiring the drill program to be rebuilt every time we attempt to remake and assemble the same product. It's very obvious between summer - winter. This could be mitigated by tightly temperature controlling the entire factory but this is impossible for the size of the space, so reprogramming where to drill it is. You mentioned it's been "months", I am not 100% sure but it made me think of that very problem in the factory. Perhaps the lead screw or even the entire gantry is more "straight" in different temperatures? Right now my Ender 3 is suffering from z-binding, few months ago during the summer, it was working just fine, it's winter now. Essentially, even if you "tighten" the z-nuts, because the lead screws / entire gantry are probably as straight as can be, you won't get binding.
@miikapuurunen8112
@miikapuurunen8112 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video! I had this issue since i installed direct drive mod on ender 3 v2 neo. I tried everything but this solution finally fixed those ugly lines 🙏
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh! So great it helped you! Thanks for telling me! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
@Cyberdactyl
@Cyberdactyl 11 ай бұрын
Weird because I have Creality CR-10 I purchased in early 2017, I did some initial lubricating, belt adjustment, leveling, etc in the first few months and have not done ANY maintenance other than dusting in almost six years and it still prints beautifully.
@johnson9195
@johnson9195 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I have had this same issues with my printer. I did all the checks u could find online and nothing fixed it. I will be checking this out.
@seanaranda8102
@seanaranda8102 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for shouting out my book! I really appreciate it!! Hopefully KZbin doesn't delete this account too haha.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Sean! Hey man! So good to see you here - by the way, if you take a look at your LinkedIn, you will see a connection request from me - I will be very happy if you consider accepting it 🤗 Yeah, I bought your book in July and it looked like people would have so much less frustration if they had such a guide in their hands. I just needed the right video to coincide with its idea - it finally happened. Happy Christmas, Sean! 🎄🎁🥂🍀🎉🎊
@seanaranda8102
@seanaranda8102 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekDetour Just logged into Linked In and replied! Merry Christmas indeed!
@HVACSUPERTECH
@HVACSUPERTECH 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! I have some informational videos on my channel. Almost every 3d printing video I have has comments like: “thank YOU! You have NO IDEA HOW LONG IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS” there’s situations in 3D printing that have never been an issue, and there is no instructions on those issues. Like for example, one of my videos are from freaking out when my Ender 5 plus kept moving up and slamming full throttle into my nozzle. It had turned out to be the silent board I installed, the BL touch wire plug went into a very specific location that is very hard to tell since the board is black, and the plug is black. 😅 I was freaking out the night I got the printer. No help ANYWHERE.
@pistolao_vr
@pistolao_vr 11 ай бұрын
I had one of my Ender 3's on vacation last month cause it had an issue i couldn't figure out. It has a Sprite Extruder, and it was having a couple failed lines, very random, but more common on taller pieces. After assembling and disassemblying pretty much the whole printer, i ended up switching the stepper motor and voilà, it worked perfectly! The issue with the motor was a single bearring that was rusty and loose, causing the metal rotor inside to catch on the steps and block the extrusion for a couple seconds! Luckly i had just bought a spare Sprite Extruder otherwise i wouldn't have had the chance to try another motor. Also, ótimo canal meu caro!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Cara que demais sua história. É fácil esquecer que dentro dos motores tem dois rolamentos - e tudo gasta cedo ou tarde! Obrigado demais por escrever e bem vindo ao canal!
@LaurentVanderdonck
@LaurentVanderdonck 11 ай бұрын
Great video, awesome voice, that's a hit for me. Instant subscription, wouldn't want to miss following videos :)
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh, thanks! 🤗 My voice is getting “older” quite fast - I am afraid I’ll sound like an old mafia boss that just whispers, quite soon. Enjoy my past videos - you can probably watch everything in one evening 🤣
@ret737
@ret737 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your thorough description of a problem with many possible variables. Thank you for the video. Subscribed!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Hey, my pleasure! This video is reassuring me that I am not a dumb guy making a video about something everybody already knows - or won’t care… I really appreciate the message! Welcome to the channel 👍❤️
@shanerogers3869
@shanerogers3869 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. This makes sense about the z axis needing to be loose. I was a bit worried this morning when unblocking the extruder gears and hotend in my BBL P1S and seeing that the z screws were visibly loose inside the top bearing bushes
@deucesoccer
@deucesoccer 11 ай бұрын
Was about to ask the same question to reddit. Super helpful!!!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Oh thanks! Merry Christmas 🎄🎁🤗
@comawhite5913
@comawhite5913 10 ай бұрын
Sir, you have another sub. Your video was both informational and entertaining. So much so I think I would have subbed if you were just reading a McDonald's drive through menu. Your accent combined with your voice is a perfect math. PLEASE do some books on tape.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanks 🤗 And welcome aboard! I think you will like these two weird videos I published some time ago - this is the first one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWbNhZp9oqlooNUsi=cacfMEXy0wgA-1Ms
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 10 ай бұрын
…and this is the second (that is far from 3D printing… but it has “the voice”, ha ha): kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGaxfZyVismKi7csi=Zcq_nuEETM-Ha6MD
@elisonfss
@elisonfss 11 ай бұрын
Looookkk at that INCRIDIBLE VINTAGE TOP 258 SUPERLUX MIC!!!!! SOOOO NICE!!!!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 ай бұрын
Yeah! Superlux Top 258 - legendary (yet cheap) Shure SM58 “clone”. How do you know that!? 🤣 Hi brother! Remember when we bought this mic? 20… maybe 25 years ago?! Still sounds great!
@jeabtanakitjeabtanakit6117
@jeabtanakitjeabtanakit6117 8 ай бұрын
That ‘s kinda deep research with insane solutions ,thank you!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Oh, I am happy you mention that - yeah, these videos take A LOT of time to be made 😅
@ArsonalTech
@ArsonalTech 8 ай бұрын
"chemically anchored" is the single best way I've heard someone say "glued"
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 8 ай бұрын
Hum… Sure, you are technically correct. It is glued. But saying “glued” conveys a simplistic feeling and most people would imagine it could fall, just like when you glue the wrong plastic with Superglue. In reality, when you use these glues, specially with the amount that I used (and it certainly crossed-invaded many internal ducts of the bricks on the ceiling), those Rods won’t go anywhere. I could probably hang a Piano 🎹 on them - the rods could break, the ceiling could fall down, but I doubt it will just slip from the epóxi. 🤣 Oh, have you used them? It was my first time - it’s spectacular! I specially love the mixer on the tip, with the twisting labyrinth.
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