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[@lordjcphoenix]

hey luke , if you're making videos comparing products , could you also include a shot where all results are displayed in 1 shot , it would have bin nice to see all the wooden pallets next to eachother and see the difference. other then that really interesting video , keep up the good work

[@therealDonMac]

I always have to where a mask when I static grass. Otherwise I choke myself on it. Don't get mad at me for saying this, but please use some PPE. You're a global treasure, and it would be awesome to keep you around for years to come.

[@kevinwebster7868]

Get your face out of your work.

[@RPArchiveOfficial]

Great job comparing these Luke, definitely a useful insight. These kind of videos I think are fantastic for helping people level up their crafting without worrying about buying the wrong, or at least not quite the bet, thing :)

[@chrisgoodier6825]

Definitely would love to see a video on modding the cheap applicator!

[@petercumiskey2746]

Me too

[@davidorf3921]

Me three LOL

[@Seelenschmiede]

Me four

[@robholton8153]

i got five on it !

[@gahbunk]

Can an ion generator be added to the first applicator? I bought one on Amazon for $100 CAD, so... kinda pissed lol

[@RealTerrainHobbies]

Great vid Luke. Nice overview of everything. I have the Woodland Scenics. Right from the beginning I had the same impression as you. It works, but I was expecting better. Build quality is great, but really thought it was going to do a better job. That RTS tho....😍

[@dragonknightadam]

@@GeekGamingScenics funny thing you keep saying that the woodland one needs more kick to it, I had a Noch applicator and that was pants in comparison to the Woodland Scenics one, the static king works best with proper 9V batteries [Duracell for example] or the wall power

[@adamstein5773]

Is “pants” good or bad?

[@TapCat]

@@adamstein5773 It's British slang for bad.

[@smoessmee]

I don't use static grass much, but it's good to know that if I plan to, it's better to not bother with the really cheap ones as it looks almost the same as a sieve.

[@garyjones6438]

Great video Luke, Personally if you havent £80 to spare or are basically skint , you can buy rolls of material they make teddy bears out of , like a fleece material, reasonably cheap from a fabric shop or even bought online And just glue it to a board ,can cover a massive area in no time, snip bits with scissors to make uneven and touch up with watered down paints, can get like a rough moorland effect This is what I have used for 1/32 scale models ,cheap,effective and quick for massive areas Take care Luke , Gary

[@stallebrass]

I'm in the market for a SGA... was gonna go for a cheapo off eBay. You've probably just saved me from a heap of buyers remorse. I'm in the £50-£100 bracket si I think its between the WWS Micro at £55 or the Green Scene at £80. Anything more is a bit too spendy for me. As you've saved me £25 on buying crap cheapo I should get the Green Scene!

[@GrimmJD]

You buy it? How you like it?

[@MSPaints]

That scrunch seems to really naturalise the flat grass, that's just blown me tiny brain.

[@pauldausmann4706]

Hi Luke. I'm an avid 1/72 WW2 scale modeler & wargaming enthusiast from Texas (for the last . 50 years). I've been watching your videos for the last several weeks and have learned a lot and enjoyed them immensely. You ain't no noob mate! And you're entertaining. ! I will be visiting your website soon and buying some products. Thanks!

[@InobuZ]

I don't get it. The negative lead is suppose to make contact with the glue to complete the circuit.

[@topspoke]

That's what I thought. However, apparently not. I recently watched the WWS video on their layering system and Martyn explained why the probe doesn't need to be in contact with the base. For best results it only needs to be near to the mesh. Recently I've been doing this and it does seem to work great.

[@zippy5131]

I bought the WWS larger version and the reason was it came with three different sized meshes, bonus.. Green scene are a great little cottage industry and always at the model shows, well when we were allowed to have them that is..

[@thegreatskinkpriest8104]

I’m in the beginning stages (planning, deciding on materials) of building my first ever terrain board for Star Wars legion and middle earth strategy battle game, so this video was super helpful. I’m super excited to use everything I’ve learned to use, and some new stuff like a grass applicator.

[@davinci3259]

Initially I made 1 from a sieve and bug zapper. I found a Static King for $66 usd, I ended up getting the plug for it as well, and having it plugged in, instead of battery powered is a lot better. Homemade 1 worked a little, but actually getting a well made product that works, saves on headaches and allows for a much better experience.

[@ScaleTrainStation]

Love Hate on this one - I LOVE that you actually compared a bunch of different applicators and rank them instead of the "they sent me this one and it's pretty neat" reviews everyone else does, I HATE that all the good ones are form the UK or EU and I need one today! Lesson learned, I will pick up a Woodland Scenics today, and order a Green Scene one too. Thanks!

[@themightyd6674]

I had literally never heard of static grass applicator until now . I watch warhammer 40K painting videos so it must have connected those two. Good video, subscribed🙂

[@BroadswordWargaming]

Love this video man! Makes me want to get an applicator. That £80 one looks like good value. 😀

[@NatesMiniatures]

What a fantastic test mate, I did just buy a static grass applicator myself and I am glad that I paid a little more money for one now. The only annoying thing about my version is the applicator is in two parts so I have to hold the handle with the batteries in it and hold down the button. and then the hopper is the second part I have to hold onto and shake for the static grass. And to ground it I would clip it to a nail into the terrain piece. A bit fiddly but it will have to do. Thanks for the vid Luke ^_^.

[@temesembetio6286]

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[@temesembetio6286]

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[@mikebuick2332]

Great video and the end of it looks like an Ann Summers Party!! 🤣🤣🤣 Joking aside Luke, John’s Green Scenes Applicator is an amazing piece of kit for £80, and coming from a railway modelling background, I’m always pushing this product because it’s great at what it does. Have to agree with you regarding the physical size of it - it’s not the most ergonomic design, but if you can put up with cramp, then it’ll be more than most average modellers need. 👍

[@Phoenixknight79]

That take cover applicator, looks like what most model railroads build themselves by using a electric fly swatter and just putting a metal strainer on the end of it..

[@Wa11breaker]

A DiY tutorial about that would be awesome, considering those aplicators, even on Aliexpress are like 4x more expensive than any eletric fly swatter I can find in local stores :(.

[@patrickkeller2193]

Yeah, the kitchen sieve glued to the lock & lock really sells the DIY look. Or DIWhy if mom finds it. "Honey that's not yours"

[@davep7223]

Bought your some of your basing products thank you for saving me literally HOURS of work you's da best!

[@BeardClipper]

Great video; I have the WWS Pro (SN0013 from batch 1) and I've always found it struggled with 6mm however of course this is such an early model (and they even gave me a free upgrade service at one point) that maybe it's now a lot stronger. Mine excels at the lengths I normally work with, up to about 4mm, and gives a great result so I'm very happy with it of course. This does make me want to see the 35KV against the monster, that could tempt me to upgrade. And also, like someone else said, the scrunching of the grass while it's still wet made me wince and cower but daayam it makes the result better so that's a technique I'll be testing out as well. Cheers buddy

[@sirjezzumz]

Excellent video. I've no plan on buying static grass applicators in the immediate future but I'm just a fan of well put comparisons. Good stuff mate.

[@lukenoble3319]

I've got the woodland scenics static king and at first ran it on a 9v battery and it was rubbish compared to when I bought a wall power transformer for it! It does provide much more power and I love how easy it is to change the mesh too. With the transformer it does put it into the £120 price bracket tho.

[@mai2015]

I just bought a pack of green crystals from Luke's brand and they are awesome!! I can't wait to play with them, great vid as per Luke!

[@tsinapah]

Really amazing video Mr Luke. This comparisons are really useful for all that we are beginning in this hobby. Thanks

[@martinhinsley6198]

Brilliant comparison video Luke.. loved it...Currently using WWS Micro applicator with YOUR static grasses and they look awesome. Well done Kiddo

[@pricefamilymemories6342]

Did you ever get a chance to review the RTSS 35kv static grass applicator? Would love to see it at work and a review. Im looking at that one would like to more about it prior to purchase. I also have been looking for a list of the Applicators and their KV ratings for each one. cant seem to find that. Love the Video by the way. Great revies of shose you tried. Thanks

[@leilacentral1883]

Do I need another static grass applicator. Yes...Yes I do.

[@gkess7106]

I’ve seen several times where you don’t have the ground touching your work! How does that work?

[@davedogge2280]

Always interested. I have the Flock Box (my personal favourite for small round bases) and the white WWS one. It's very messy and the fibers travel for miles and strangely end up in other rooms on my minis which I paint

[@maxbrandt6]

Such devices are uncommon here in the US but I'd love even a basic one, anything to step-up my terrain modeling!

[@cdjhyoung]

Being in a model train club, I've had the chance to use three of these applicators and have built my own from an electronic fly swatter. The Woodland Scenics is my favorite and I seem to get my best results in grasses up to 6mm with it. The cheap one he references that he is going to modify to make work better is a total dud in my mind. It will apply 2 mm grass reasonably well, but struggles with 4 mm and is useless for anything longer. The Noch is the best I've used for the longest grasses I've tried, the 12 mm stuff. Not a lot of use for that length in HO, but it does stand it up nicely. I find the way he waves the ground lead around a bit disturbing. The Noch and the WS work doing it this way, but I feel it degrades the application. I like to firmly have the ground in the surface of the area I'm applying the grass to. You do need to move that ground wire frequently to keep up with your work area. As for my home made applicator, it suffers from one of the problems he describes: the smaller the holes in the screen, the poorer the applicator works. Mine uses a sieve and only can handle 2 mm grass, and poorly at that. I've purchased some rug hooking plastic mesh that I'm going to rebuild that home made unit with to see if I can make it handle longer grasses. One other point here, the applicators that have a closed container for the static grass are generally easier to use because aren't left with the risk of dumping un-intended grass on your work area like the open top ones do. For me. working in HO, I prefer the Woodland Scenics model with the Noch a close second.

[@FrostandFists]

Really great video, Luke! This demonstration will be really helpful if I decide to pick one up in the future! ~ Wolfbrother Methos

[@edgoz2war133]

Had our greenscenes applicator for a number of years and still can’t fault it.

[@saltykrug]

Great video. I bought the static king but I'm still excited about it. I got it with the power adaptor with it. I've read it doesn't perform to the best with a battery. None work like we want with batteries so I've heard

[@ScaleHangar182]

You can get the £25 one for around £15 on ebay, i use it for couple years now, but i think im gonna upgrade to £50 one after watching this. Thanks for this video Luke.

[@itsio7188]

Liked and shared. I'll be checking out your shop

[@lexzbuddy]

Designed/modelled and 3D printing one of my own at the moment :)

[@TheDarkplace]

I'm interested in the technique you use here. I thought the wire had to be connected to the damp glue for the static field to work? I notice you chase the generator around the surface with the cable instead. How do the two methods differ in result?

[@Manlima]

Thank you so much for this super complete comparative. We will buy one under your recommendations not for Tabletop Games but for one of our next costumes. Nice video by the way 💕

[@johnwyldbore73]

Watched this video to late, as I’d already purchased a really cheap one which is absolutely crap!! Have just bought the Green Scene one and I’m waiting for it to be delivered any day now! Great video by the way. 😀👍🏻

[@paulhennessy5627]

Luke Applicator 1- the live wire is not in contact with the mesh- I have one and as long as they are in contact the result is prefectly acceptable.

[@paulhennessy5627]

@@GeekGamingScenics I stand very much corrected. Just tried it with some longer SG(10mm I think)... And it is pretty awful.

[@wckdtrb]

Has anyone had luck recently ordering the Flockit? Wife and I ordered one from Green Scene, now owned by Squire's Tools, and in 2 weeks we haven't gotten a tracking number or any responses to our multiple emails. I'm asking if we are an outlier or if others have had this issue. Thanks to this review that Flockit seems amazing, and thanks for the great work Luke!

[@robholton8153]

Haven’t watched it yet I just got pinged as I sat down in the cinema! Anyway I bought your last recommendation . You cost me a fortune dude, keep the videos coming 😜

[@robholton8153]

OK nice one Luke, I have the WWS based on your last video, so no probs. Great video as always.

[@rononel8046]

Aren't you supposed to put a nail into the board & attach the electrode to that for best results?

[@STONEDCLOWN1]

Good to see you back

[@stevewaites8631]

Now you do this video! After watching your video on basing the Railway Tunnel, I knew I needed to buy an applicator. I looked carefully and decided to buy my new WWS Pro Grass micro which arrived yesterday. Then I find this vid, Fortunately my applicator fared pretty well, and as I'm only using it on mini bases I reckon I'll get away with it. Luke another brilliant video as always, thanks for the tips and info.

[@GryphonArmorer]

I have one similar to the cheap one (take cover). It left me wanting, so I’m developing one that will knock your socks off.

[@TheAnikasis]

I was wondering which one to get, so thank you for making this video, it helps so much! Cheers.

[@robglenn4844]

I just went to Green Scene's website. They have a link to this video right on their homepage labelled "An independant review of Static Applicators."

[@robglenn4844]

@@GeekGamingScenics Nice! They've got some smart cookies on their team then. They're not wrong, this video is the reason I was there to begin with lol.

[@watermelonhelmet6854]

Super late to the party, but if you're using a cheaper applicator, it really helps to put a pin in the crocodile clip instead of just touching the clip to the work, and then apply the grass in small areas directly over wherever the pin is touching The clip grounds the work, the mesh gives the grass a static charge. Cheaper applicators don't give the grass quite as strong a charge, so the closer they are to the grounding wire, the better the effect is...and you can ground your work more effectively if you push a pin a little way into it rather than just resting the clip on top.

[@JollywoodJoel]

How does the *RTS Green Keeper* have an output of 55,000 Volts? As it says on their website.

[@dom1310df]

I bought a really cheap one and couldn't get it to work. I think that like yours it lacked an ion generator. I am tempted to get the WWS micro and revisit flocking, as I was put off when I couldn't get it to work before.

[@polito96]

Hope you are well mate. Still miss your content on here.

[@CharlieStalk]

I was just now looking online at buying a applicator!! Freaky timing mate :)

[@das-se4xl]

I know it may sound a bit of a crazy question but do you varnish it again after the last part of the process or would the static grass be able to hold 15mm napoleonic with a base or would it be too heavy? I have not really used it before so a but unsure. Sorry if it was a daft question.

[@thetrainrev5483]

Always love your videos, Luke! In this one you refer to the spray can as being "varnish". Can you please explain what that is? Here in the States is that the same as spray adhesive? I'm trying to build up the length of my grass and having difficulty getting it to "stand" using the Noch applicator with their glue base. Thanks

[@jmc7034]

I see a need to visit your shop again 😉 great vid 💓

[@nicmcconchie2199]

Another really useful video. Thank you man! Awesome tats btw.

[@Barbarossamodels]

Great video Luke..👏👏, been looking into getting one of these for a while, but obviously with all the varying quality & prices available, it can be difficult to be happy you’ve got the right one 🤞A few reviews & KZbin videos on the numerous ones available, but obviously this helps ALOT.... Decision made (probably😕?), nicely done, thank you!!🙂👍

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

The cheap grass looks just like the football pitch I played on as a kid. Very realistic for South East England Council estate grass.

[@lupo1982andrea]

So, what is the best?

[@faaroncarthy680]

I'd like to see the grass app modification video. What about a grass applicator with a built in oscillator to help apply it😁 a push button off centred motor, vibrations the Mrs would be proud of 💚🇮🇪

[@steelwitness]

thank you very much. I am american and static flocking isnt a very common thing to hear about. most people use a nonstatic flocker and call it a day. I wanted a flocker for my car and this video helped. went with War World

[@michaelkiehn9254]

Thanks for making this, it was really useful to me.

[@WelderART]

and glue must have more thick consistency like a gel ( wood glue) because fibers need some texture to stick , glue in spray its not a good option ( maybe for further layering)

[@reillymcclellan2329]

As an artist, the Green Scene, "wow. That one's good," made me tear up. I love hearing your expertise and the care you put into your work. an artist being impressed is such an awesome feeling.

[@chriswright7608]

Hi thanks for the great video! I’m new to this. Do these all work on a battery or do you have to purchase a power source separately? Thanks !

[@alvinmarcus5780]

Great stuff Luke. Wanted to ask, have you ever thought about making a video of how you got into everything ? Think it would be interesting to see your journey. Just a thought.

[@RyanClarky]

Thank you for this video. I ended up getting the WWS Pro. :)

[@adamstein5773]

Luke what are you spraying for the second and third layers? Thanks for this vid.

[@lnrmodels]

Great video- thanks for sharing Luke

[@jogonyachickennugget4911]

What does the spray varnish do? Is it like the same as spray pva? Or spray glue?

[@davidweale9621]

Would be great to see a video pimping the second applicator.

[@johnkelley9877]

Thanks for this review, it was a big help!

[@jaanikaapa6925]

Luke, ever think of getting one for your brand? Also how would you make something like grain fields, wheat, rye and so on... Maybe even corn?

[@Dog_with_thumbs]

@4:27 I have this exact model and aside form the basing glue ( i have mod podge because i cant get basing glue) I cannot achieve results anywhere as close to yours. im using a mix of 2/4 mm fibers and they aren't standing up what so ever, fresh 9v battery and all, the only physical difference is that i still have my clip, and i see you do not. ideas?

[@bright3633]

Cheers Luke, gonna go with the £80 Greenscene, for that price can't go wrong, can I ask what type of varnish your using? I'm not based in UK so can't get my hands on proper layering spray.

[@tomekhekin914]

Perfect timing I was just to buy one. Thank you

[@donlloyd1297]

I bought a WWS micro and after waiting 2 months for it to ship, when I went to use it, it turned out to have a loose connection somewhere so it mostly functions the same as a dollar-store sieve.

[@jinenjuce]

I have a free method: 1) Put on a pair of socks 2) Do the Charleston dance on your carpet or rug 3) Sprinkle grass on your base

[@aldiroca1]

hello greetings from Spain!! I am new to electrostatic grass. Why do you sometimes put the applicator clamp touching the ground and other times without touching it?

[@babylittleguy]

What is probe for and how do u use it. I see there is a nail or more in some of the pictures I've seen, and I don't know what they are for.

[@leisureshoot]

I would have liked to see you try the Woodland Scenics applicator with the electric transformer, to see if there is any difference

[@MyklCarlton]

Why do you 'float' the contact lead over the piece instead of putting it in contact with the glue? I have one of those cheap applicators and, fine mesh limit aside, it works fine, but I put the contact clip in contact with the glue.

[@MyklCarlton]

@@GeekGamingScenics The contact lead is the high voltage line. The material collects a charge as it passes through the mesh which is repelled by the voltage at the base, which is why it stands up. An example - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWm0c4eYeJp9f8U

[@MyklCarlton]

@@GeekGamingScenics Sorry, I made a silly mistake in my first comment - the connection with the probe or clip on a wire is the ground lead for the ion generator. The high voltage lead charges the mesh, which gives the material the static charge as it passes through. I'm not sure why someone would tell you stuff about magnetic fields - it's just static electrical charges (the 'grass' is a type of plastic, not affected by magnetism). So when you're making a batch of tufts, for instance, you can simply attach the ground lead to a metal tray that your base layer (I use baking paper) sits on. On terrain pieces, they're usually more of an insulator than baking paper so it's easier to just use the liquid glue for grounding the circuit. So - why do the charged grass pieces seem to want to climb to the probe/clip? Because the charge is trying to reach that ground. It's similar to what you see with those plasma balls - the current is 'attracted' to the path to ground that your fingers (or other body part - I don't judge ;)) offer. Why do the pieces of grass stand upright? This may be where the confusion arises. Like charges repel each other, just as like poles repel each other in magnetism. I'm sure you've seen pictures of people with their hair sticking out at all directions when they're connected to a static power source. Their hair stand up because each individual hair is carrying the same charge as the others and they push each other away. You see the same thing with iron filings on a magnet - the piece are attracted to the magnet but push each other away and so stand upright. Sorry for the wall of text, static electricity and magnetism have been interests for over 40 years. Hope the pandemic isn't interfering with your supply chain, you do great products.

[@chrisridd9423]

I thought you had to touch the electrode to the glue surface to get the little fibres to stick vertically - but you were waving it around mid air! Am I wrong?

[@xaxuelx7987]

50 pound applicator... how do you hold it with one hand?... :P

[@NathanielKempson]

I have one of the first Green Scene aplicators that were released to market (i think) Greene Scene Grass Tech 2.

[@newfenrisrailroad621]

Well mate great video and I’m just getting back into terrain and trains plus 40k war gaming and was wondering how the WWS aplacator was to the Woodlands scenic one and I’m sold to the WWS one now and will probably be getting one. Tks again mate for another great video to get me inspired to terrain work.

[@KeanesCove]

I use Woodlands Scenics static king on mains and it is awesome- much better than the battery

[@vmhntrd]

After watching this video I order the green-scene Flockit from the UK to the US and I wonder if your friend performed any modifications on his. Maybe my static grassing needs more practice but I was a little underwhelmed with how slanted most of my grass stood before vacuuming. Maybe a name-brand battery instead of the one that shipped with it would help. The information that came with the device says there is a power adapter but I can't find it on their site.

[@vmhntrd]

@@GeekGamingScenics Thanks for your reply. I only noticed it so late because I came back to this video to review again. I've been using Woodland Scenics static grass so far. I found that 4mm works really well if I work very close to my surface

[@richardlionheart3935]

Great timing Luke. I will be in the market for one of these in the very near future. Although I suspect most of them may not be available here in Australia. Cheers.

[@Seelenschmiede]

At least woodland scenics is from down under as far as I know

[@richardlionheart3935]

@@Seelenschmiede I wish. :) I just checked and it seems they are an American company based in Missouri. Fortunately though their products seem to be easy to get here.

[@Condottiero_Magno]

The Woodland Scenics FS639 Static King comes with 3 different sized sieves. Which one did you use and did you try the other two? I need a SGA for flocking gaming bases and was going to go with the Take Cover Terrain one, but the exchange rate and shipping to the US, it's around $60, so $20 less than the WS at ~$80 and free shipping from some places. The Green Scene Flockit looks great, but it's £87.50 or ~$120 + shipping. 🙁

[@nicholasvinkler1635]

Sweet! Great review

[@nicholasvinkler1635]

Thanks Luke. I still enjoy watching you. After these years

[@steveford5763]

Just about to order applicator. I will go with the RTS Monster..... I am sure it will handle 12mm for 1/35. Thanks Luke

[@steveford5763]

@@GeekGamingScenics will do. Where to purchase it. Thanks, steve

[@steveford5763]

@@GeekGamingScenics ok, appreciate it...

[@Seelenschmiede]

@@steveford5763 if you need help with german, tell me, I will happily help :)

[@steveford5763]

@@Seelenschmiede that would surely help. I think the 35KV would be ok for me. I wrote them and no response back. I asked total include shipping to houston texas USA. I could always go with WW Senics pro.....steve

[@Seelenschmiede]

@@steveford5763 atm shipping to the US is on a halt for most of europe because of the decisions the white house made. Sorry for that.

[@wg1948]

Hi, first thank you for your uploads , what is the ideal size hole for a mesh so the grass will ''stand uppish''.I need it for 10-15cm boards. Thank you.

[@HappyGnoux]

thank you for this very helpful video!

[@briandunning2974]

Excellent video. You’ve got a new subscriber.

[@chriscalver9878]

Hi yeah Luke, when would you be contemplating doing the conversion?