How Often were the "Environmental" Clone Troops Actually Used?

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YOU REALLY OUT HERE WITH THE DRIP TROOPER IN THE THUMBNAIL

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The driptrooper is the biggest conspiracy the Republic has ever seen, at the break of the clone wars hundreds of driptroopers paraded around the core worlds to prove the might of the new Grand Army of the Republic in outfitting all of its troops in fresh drip. However, the driptrooper was no more than a front, less than 800 of them were produced and the Republic launched the largest propaganda campaign in galactic history. The citizens of the Republic had faith that their mighty driptroopers would defend the Republic to the death, knowing little about the truth, that the driptrooper was nothing more than a ceremonial position given to failed cadets that weren’t terminated. Should the truth be revealed to the public wartime support would’ve collapsed at the outbreak of the Clone Wars, ending them in very short order. As a result propaganda campaigns detailing about the thousands of driptroopers fighting on the front lines were publicized and false records were instated in GAR data banks while in truth normal clone troopers were the true warriors. The CIS as well as Republican citizens attempted to expose the truth but it was suppressed as “enemy propaganda”. To this day little is known about the true nature of the driptrooper, as almost all information has been silenced or suppressed.

[@benjaminbrockway5998]

I imagine the specialists got integrated into the normal infantry as trainers and experts in their fields.

[@yagdtigercommander]

yah I pretty much agree with that.

[@JainZar1]

Or similar to real life armies, where either mountain divisions are used to enhance the capabilities of an army or corps or single brigades or companies are used to enhance the operational capability of divisions.

[@jaxofdeth1]

I imagine that it was similar to what happened to the Commandos in the first battle of Genosis, where they were used as conventional troops and suffered enough casualties that they were downsized to specialized platoons/ companies rather than entire legions or corps.

[@zachurich5046]

Wish it worked that way with real life army specialists :(

[@JainZar1]

@@zachurich5046 It is, you just have to look at specialized Divisions/Brigades. Not everyone in those Brigades will be an expert for the battlespace, but you have specialist that are able to safely lead troops atop a mountain, etc. To have a higher retention level those specialized skills are mostly found in the career NCO level.

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

The Drip Trooper was never reported to be used in battle because every time one was sent in, both sides would stop fighting to hype up that glorious Kaminoan Drip

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[@Ghost-go5eh]

Honestly seems like an effective way to win a battle if that was true hah

[@justineallandevelos6491]

Droid commander: hold it cease fire! Droid: but why sir? Droid commander: we can't just kill a clone if he's rocking that drip!? show some manners you metalhead!

[@anemicsilence]

😂😂👍

[@Hawk3s]

That one clone in the thumbnail has some drip. You know he is the most elite enviromental clone.

[@marielawrence468]

Which one lol

[@duncanmcgee13]

Imagine being in the last batch of a specialized trooper and never seeing combat because regs do your job now

[@liamgriffin218]

Sounds nice tbh

[@grimgrom3355]

Ngl... my lazy azs would love that

[@robertclark1669]

I would hate that bro

[@alzhanvoid]

Wow, a trooper who gets to live in relative peace and safety? Dream job right there.

[@murderouspillowgaming9001]

@@alzhanvoid not necessarily, there are consequences to psychologically conditioning someone to want to go to war, and then never giving them a war to fight. I recommend the movie “jar head”.

[@TheAusar]

Man, i never knew scuba troopers looked so potent.

[@geetslys]

YES!

[@marshalllatta2073]

Every special wise clone trooper have some of the coolest armor 😉

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I think so too☺

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[@kriegsmandeathrider3583]

Agreed

[@indianajones4321]

Wish we could have seen even more environmental troopers, especially desert warfare troopers (not in a battle led by Anakin due to his “history” with sand)

[@gameinsane4718]

Nah he’d lead a team of flame troopers to turn tatooine into the galaxy’s largest marble

[@robertagu5533]

@@gameinsane4718 Yeah... Starting by wiping out as many Tuskens as he could find.

[@devindalton4688]

In Star Wars Battlefront 2, (2017) there's an unlockable Clone Trooper skin that's a 212th Battalion ARF Trooper in desert camouflage, designed to blend into Geonosis.

[@Nitroblastgaming]

It's coarse, rough, and it gets everywhere

[@samueldimmock694]

What are you talking about? He'd be great for commanding desert troopers. He'd know all the dangers, especially the danger of equipment failure caused by sand getting everywhere. Moreover, he would be able to tell rocky plains from sand dunes from a mile away and guide them to the former, giving them a more advantageous position--you move slower on sand than on rock, and speed is important for combat, plus rock provides great cover from artillery fire and sand dunes do not.

[@toby1061]

They may not have been used that much, in the Clone War show, but we have to admit that when they were on screen they were the coolest clones around.

[@littlemongoose1745]

I find this stuff about clones, their types and ranks very interesting.

[@sprayk9821]

Same

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

Me too. Always loved the empire more than the rebellion as well

[@comradekenobi6908]

Yeah, it's called military organization Honestly many francise has these kinds of stuff, (like Halo for example) And I love just reading through the wiki or finding a video about them

[@littlemongoose1745]

@@zaab-yaoh9302 The only time I thought the rebellion was cool was in rogue one other than that THE EMPIRE is better.

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

@@littlemongoose1745 yeah I feel you on that, to be fair tho Rougue One was just beautiful all around, regardless of sides.

[@stratecal796]

That thumbnail gives me an endgame vibe, I’m waiting for Rex to say “clones...assemble”

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Ah modular, the favorite buzzword of militaries around the world... Er... Galaxy

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[@00yiggdrasill00]

Realistically you wouldn't need heaps of special terrain soldiers, just a small number of elite groups to act as trainers, recon and leadership.

[@beewitha50cal]

Interesting. I had always assumed that the specialist clones might have been used kinda like the Storm Troopers/Tempestus Scions in Warhammer 40k. Like they'd be trained in large units that were then broken up and deployed in smaller numbers as needed alongside regular clone units

[@felixluna4184]

Ya know that's probably it

[@timolo0411]

tbf i think thats the case. Even if a regs do the job just fine, it doesn't make sense to just ignore the specialized clones. Why the fuck would you neglect those that can do it much better just because the other can do it well enough. If you are that hellbent on not using them just discontinue them and let them fight their way to extinction.

[@ARC-wo4qr]

You can wear the armor, but we do not grant you the rank of specialized trooper.

[@randycheow4268]

Don’t forget the Galactic Marines since they wore specialized armor, helmets and mask that are designed to maximize their combat efficiency in harsh environments

[@Tredlex]

only to be stuck on Mygeeto the whole war

[@someguy7531]

Man I always loved the 41 Scout look.

[@federalbureauofinvestigati9177]

I had a lego set with 4 of those figures, 2 phasetwo and 2 with scout helmets

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@@federalbureauofinvestigati9177 yeah the Swamp speeder set Wonder why we never got to see the Phase 2 trooper on Kasshyykk though

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@@comradekenobi6908 yup, got it as a present for a distinction in school, those were the days man

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Oh . . . *Worse expletive

[@loneneotank.5687]

Wait a minute...

[@flightsimulatorlad6664]

Something kind of ironic when SCUBA troopers had to be deployed on water worlds when all clones were trained on a water planet

[@BolognaPonogna]

While watching Episode 3 for the 5th time this year? More like 5th time this month.

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[@artusdulmorr6510]

I'm glad you made a video on this because I've always wondered about this myself. However, I don't think it's entirely accurate that these clones are never used. I think this is because were assuming that the GAR only organizes its specialist troopers into niche units, rather than dispersing them among typical rank and file units. I think in the case of the GAR, environmentally specialized clones are dispersed to provide knowledge and expertise in the units they are embedded into. The 501st isn't a cold-weather assault unit, but because they might have a handful of clones that have attended the "cold weather" school, regular clones have access to peers that have received specialized training and knowledge, and can therefore perform better.

[@TCStink3]

That seems like the most logical explanation.

[@ClonedGamer001]

I always thought that the specialized clone types just referred to regs wearing the unique armor. Like 'Cold assault trooper' was just referring to a clone wearing snow gear.

[@schienennahverkehrDE]

Phase 2 Bombsquad Trooper in the Thumbnail but those Bombsquadtroopers were one of the few units, using the Phase One Armor from the Beginning to the End

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[@The_Popkorn]

Only the true SWRP Gmod players recognised all the models on the thumbnail.

[@PhileasLiebmann]

Interestingly the advent of the "crash-course pilot" troopers also coincides almost exactly with the phasing out of the V19 Torrent, i.e. the most complicated and unwieldy starfighter ever, in favour of the ARC-170, which was not just a lot more solid and simple designs over all being based partially on the Z-95, the easiest starfighter to pilot of all time, but whose primary weapons (the 3 laser cannons) were lifted almost directly from various ground attack vehicles such as the AT-TE and the Saber fighter tank, which those clones were probably already intimately familiar with. Leads me to believe that the coolest starfighter ever was probably a direct result of this development.

[@rafaelalodio5116]

I think environmental clone troopers were actually just circunstancial, not dedicated units, after all clones trained literally their whole life, so I think all of them had a well rounded training.

[@mudshrooze]

I love the color orange so if I was a clone I'd wanna be a bomb squad clone. Or any clone armor with orange

[@jordanbrown9086]

dreamcickle troops

[@G59forlife.]

212th Attack Battalion 🔥

[@kingofcali6057]

Everybody gangsta till the drip trooper shows up

[@biolegofilms8738]

Wrong,we still gangster

[@JR-tk4fn]

Glad to see my drip trooper is an excellent Environmental Clone Trooper!

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

Anyone noticed the Drip Clone from the Thumbnail?

[@geetslys]

Me

[@ComradeBobcat39]

Wait only watched Episode 3 5 times this year those are rookie numbers you need to bump those up

[@randomguywholikesstuff6536]

It's always nice to learn more about the Star Wars universe

[@googesowders8622]

This is so much like real world military because when everyone thinks Seals are only underwater combat group. The Army also has a awesome dive school & team .

[@bowenc24]

I bet trying to supply all these niche sets of equipment is a logistical nightmare!

[@ShadowFall334]

Everyone: Scuba Trooper's!! Me: heh, Shadow Trooper's

[@blitzkrieg8776]

I would say the specialists were probably transferred to training instructors for both the regulars and the non-clones after the initial period of the war. Just relying on the simulators would definitely lead to unnecessary casualties. They also could've been used as test beds for changing the training regime of the regular clones too.

[@masamune2984]

Not often enough, judging by those amazing armor designs, and cool descriptions.

[@EWLR89]

I'd also assume that specialized troopers would probably be attached to clone units and act as advisors and cadres.

[@user-ht5mh1ls9w]

when i saw the title, I thought it meant something like environmental friendly clone troopers lol

[@arftrooper2057]

I’ve always wanted to know what Neyo and the 91st recon troop’s helmets do. Never could find anything on it.

[@badideagenerator2315]

They have specialist modifications to their breath filters enabling them to breathe in the most menacing way possible.

[@gymbr0]

I mean one out of universe reason would be that the creator of the show knew we wanted to see the 501st and certain legions or characters and that it would be better for the overall plot if those characters and legions made more appearances. Consequently even when it may have been more appropriate to see a specialist unit, we saw the clones we know and love instead.

[@zexalbrony4799]

Well, there is one battle we know all the Environmentalists were used, the First Battle of Geonosis. Since Yoda took all the available Clones at the time to that battle, which would include all the Environmentalists. (Sarcastic tone): I'm sure those Scuba Troopers were very useful there. LOL. Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind a video about the First Battle of Geonosis, since a lot more was going on than we saw in Episode 2, such as what Grevious was up too, and all the stuff we saw in the original Battlefront games and Republic Commandos.

[@geetslys]

We have covered a bunch of aspects of the battle across various videos!

[@trippymbg4163]

I like the 41st and dark troopers and null arcs with a side of fordo

[@baddecisions4380]

That fucking trooper with the fucking drip in the had to do it to em pose had me fucking rolling

[@Shahmane666]

These guys are my favorites after the clone Captains and Commanders, because they have special issue armor that fits their environment of expertise, which always looks wayyyyyyy cooler than regular clone armor, and cause the colors vary so much

[@koriander9174]

05:10 that could really well be a sub-unit of the 501st and only Rex revived cold assault training during his arc trooper training

[@userofthisgreatpieceofhuma7652]

I am a huge Star Wars fan and I absolutely love your videos - thank you and keep up the good work mate!

[@HyperK7]

I agree with a lot of people here. The specialists were likely integrated into other units like the 501st. To compare to another universe, it seems like how the 1st Legion Dark Angels was structured during the Great Crusade and subsequent Heresy. Specialists like those of the Firewing were distributed to different units where they lent their expertise and formed into larger groups when necessary.

[@dantheswampman1747]

Don't mess with the drip trooper

[@jollygoodfukenshow7580]

What are the benefits of having drips in the GAR

[@marcasai_rex7760]

All of them

[@The9220]

Rex must've been busy trying all those suites😆

[@evanleeron3647]

May the drip be with you all

[@goodmind4940]

What planets from the galactic map that we've never visited in animation/live-action would you like to see on-screen?

[@zexalbrony4799]

Boz Pity, Jabiim, or New Plympto.

[@CHFafard]

Nar Shaddaa

[@giosukehigashgiovoanna2796]

DAMN... That one clone gots the DRIP

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Can you cover canon New Separatist Union and Confederacy of Corporate Systems? Also maybe cover Legends Corporate Sector Authority, Day 12

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Join his discord to suggest ._.

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[@Catullus_J_5]

The desert troopers deployed to the 2nd Battle of Geonosis were actually a separate unit. They were the 212th Recon Division. While they are under the 7th Sky Corps, but they seem to be there own separate unit.

[@donuts6689]

I appreciate the driptrooper in the thumbnail

[@milliebrockway4298]

Watching episode 3 for the fifth time this year? Those are rookie numbers. You got to bump those numbers up. I've watched it 10 times this year

[@bulbobaggins]

The Drip Troopers: specialized clone units designated to flex their drip. Originally a prototype by the Kaminoans, they proved to be brutal soldiers when it came to drip. Recent studies have shown that they flexed over Grievous's boney ass so hard he combusted. Deemed too unethical for warfare and were phased out by the Galactic Empire

[@jakesalisbury2068]

I still have a vast curiosity about Bacara and his Clone Marines because of how unique their equipment is. Is there any lore I over looked that tells their story?

[@Wrecktown7247]

yeah I really want to know more about the reinforced helmet shield bacara wear, would be so cool to see their gear issued out more in star wars media.

[@jaxl2983]

I got a concept art clone image and his Helmet is just like thae Scubas helmet minus the Comm spike

[@supercat4539]

That was a fresh clone trooper in the thumbnail

[@Uosh-en8nb]

Oh hey, thanks for using our Scuba Trooper model in your thumbnail!

[@jahck866]

THE FUCKING DRIP TROOPER!!! I am dead.

[@SnaggleTurd]

The drip trooper simply short circuited droids on sight

[@YoBoyNeptune]

Based only on what's in the show the helmets at 6:07 appear to enhance the wearer's hearing to better detect the bugs. They also appear in the episode with the stealth ship which appears to be the space equivalent to attack submarines with the sonar sound effects and use of torpedoes. These helmets may have been used there to help the pilots operate the space equivalent of sonar

[@prodarchangel]

2:12 why does scuba troopa sound so funny 😭

[@TheAverageNooob]

Maybe these unused specialist could have been given crash courses into low level officer positions. They then would be called in at these special environmental battles. Since they had officer training and knew the environment better than the regulars it might have been advantages.

[@methegamerx]

Lmfao I saw the Drip trooper in the thumbnail lmao

[@cob_capone1729]

I like the drip trooper in the back but the fact is they’re all drip troopers

[@nickshaffer80]

love that D R I P Trooper in the thumbnail

[@ascari6460]

Anybody else notice the drip trooper on the thumbnail? xD

[@TSFCaesar]

I'd love to hear more about the GRA's and CIS's Assassin Cores! The specially trained and breed Clones as well as the meticiulosly programed and crafted Droids! Would appreciate that greatly, thanks!

[@devindalton4688]

He actually does have a video on assassin clones already, just look up Geetsly assassin clones, you'll find it.

[@TSFCaesar]

@@devindalton4688 Thank you very much man ^^

[@devindalton4688]

@@TSFCaesar No problem. 👍

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

this can be summed up with 1 thing. Logistics. Ok i have ice troopers, they are currently working on hoth. its going to take a few days or even weeks to get them gathered up and onto landing ships. Then days or even weeks to get them to the target world, which JUST had an opening as its defense fleet ws pulled away... OR we can do a landing with regs we have and be able to make planet fall in 6 hours. What was going on was a very fluid ward. Lines and planets changing hands fast, often in just days. While others having sieges that lasted months. The truth is, specialiest troopers are better on defense. NOT offense as backwards as that may sound. The reason being, specialest troopers get better, the more time they have to prepare defenses, scout, and secure their enviroment. While having to move specialest units requires far more time, as they may not always be staged for a quick move, nor close enough to the lines of battle where they might be needed. Specialist troopers may have been far more common then we see, but used in garrison and defensive rolls instead of the front line rolls we see, and the film concentates on.

[@samueldimmock694]

That actually makes a lot of sense, maybe even more sense than the idea of having them be trainers or expert advisors for reg groups fighting in their special environment. Of course, no reason you can't do both, except possibly logistics, but I'd imagine most specialist troops were used in garrison roles even if some were loaned out to other divisions.

[@lonewolf5054]

Clones are basically the best soldiers that can handle any type of classes and special training that droids couldn't handle, meaning that's how the republic won the war and that they are better

[@rmansfield6]

Watching episode three for the fifth time this year? Those are rookie numbers!

[@chickenwing6748]

I really think a clone trooper can adapt to any situation really.

[@generaljim3283]

That one clone trooper in the thumbnail with the drip

[@punkydamonkey989]

I wish we could see the covert ops troopers in canon.

[@RFMatrix]

we may get a chance to see them in the upcoming star wars bad batch

[@seethenero2555]

May the drip be with that clone trooper indeed

[@apolly0xn8474]

The drip trooper in the thumbnail 😂

[@johnstuckey262]

It’s probably like our modern day army. The 10th mountain division is just a regular infantry division that has a legacy of mountaineering

[@burgundycommander7589]

It’s a light infantry division, not just a regular div.

[@lekoraxx5406]

There were also sand or desert troopers when Plo Koon was looking for Sypho Dias with the Wolfpack S6

[@haleyjoarcher82]

Gotta love that drip trooper in the thumbnail

[@joey6800]

The cold assault troopers give me an uncanny vibe, like make up your mind. Be a clone Or a snow trooper, where’s the marine helmets? Idk it just looks weird.

[@AYEcorolla]

As a star wars nerd and a military nerd as well... I think in a lot of ways, they got carried away with this and the 50 million different forms of "special operations" troop types that existed. Realistically, it be reasonable to assume clone training would be general enough to cover most environments and that a fairly generalized environmental protection system would exist- negating the need for training specialists for stuff like the desert, forests, etc. specifically.

[@RaynmanPlays]

It would make more sense to me to say that there just wouldn't have been adequate time to respond for these specialist troopers. Whatever clones were in the area would have to do 90% of the time, which would mean that the specialist troopers would largely be designated to defending key worlds that were within their specialty.

[@mixymaxox]

We all know the most specialized and skilled was that drip trooper

[@CT-zr6yg]

Big fan of the desert troop armour

[@geetslys]

Desert 212th or Wolfpack?

[@jimthompson8792]

I'd really like to hear more about the clone Shadow Troopers and Covert Ops Troopers

[@azareloropeza3261]

I'm such a HUGE 2003 Clone Wars so I went an got me a Scuba Trooper Action figure 🔥

[@ohioanbutt_ticklingbandit]

That one dude in the thumbnail: *respect the drip*

[@benjaminlieberman3932]

I assume clone specialist units were deployed in extreme environments beyond normal, like a cold environment with -100 F where even beyond the standard cold assault armor had to be worn and made fighting the cold just as hard as fighting the droids. I assume the 501st with so many ARC troopers was asked to adapt more than many reg units while on a campaign trail as it would take time to call up specialist units from the reserves and deploy them on the frontlines, time which the 7th Sky Corps and 501st legion would want to seize the upperhand.

[@mixedchannelgameproduction901]

2:12 Commander 'Monke'

[@yagdtigercommander]

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me that the GAR would have a more all rounder type of army simply because the CIS was vastly larger. Allowing to have more specialized , droids, tanks, droid tanks and droid air vehicles. But it was both a strength and weakness for the CIS because each type of unit and warship was built to support each other effectively. But the down side if any one of those weapons systems gets destroyed or disabled the CIS units were lose their advantage and effectiveness on the battlefield. Unless your B1 battle droid your sole purpose is basically to be cannon fodder and one massive meat shield for supporting units to distract and ware down the already outnumbered and stretched thin GAR forces. But the GAR have the advantage of having some really powerful weapon systems that are just packed with all kind of weapons to handle any threat. While each clone better trained and more versatile than the CIS. Meaning the clone troopers can still perform very well even when shit has hit the fan for the republic forces. Basically the CIS army was meant to have quick victories steam rolling over republic forces and other enemies a like. Simply because whenever the CIS fail to break through the defensive lines of the GAR. Most Battle droids or Droid commanders seem to be kind of clueless or so now what due to a lack of a back up plan. Or in the case of General Kalani on Onderon was Order by Count Dooku to leave because the fight against the republic backed rebels was reaching a stalemate dragging on too much. Dooku also said that it wasting valuable droid forces that could be put to better use on other fronts. So the CIS although numerous preferred to avoid overly lengthy operations due to tying up forces and resources that could be used more effectively across the galactic battlefield. Or B1 Battle Droids tend to have this every droid for himself mentality when the going gets tough hehe. It was pretty effective early on against the GAR but the clones learned and adapted well often fighting to last breath. And even when retreats did happen it was in a calm effective organized manner usual with a strong rear guard hold off the CIS long enough for a successful retreat. The GAR whether they knew it from the onset or not proved that all though smaller in number were stronger in both abilities and military zeal that allowed to really fight for long haul. Becoming the masters of endurance as it see clone troopers holding the line on the defense or charging battle droids head on defiance of meeting their maker even if one died basically by trying to punch a b1 in the movie during the first battle of Crystophsis. Although CIS had out layers like Admiral Trench. I think that endurance mentality of clones all helped contribute to their ability and willingness to learn more environmental /survival training that may have been taught by some of the commanders and squad leaders of the specialized forces. As I suspect having the specialist train their rank and file brethren would have played a big role in the training at least regardless if they used the specialized gear or not since they would be the experts.

[@TheYungjay82]

i honestly thought the clones had different armors depending upon where they were going 😂i just learned something new