Which of the Ancient Star Wars Factions was the Biggest THREAT To the Galaxy?

[@geetslys]

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[@lewisthisisjames6632]

How can you comment four days ago?

[@geetslys]

The same way Palpatine came back.

[@lewisthisisjames6632]

The comment is the senate

[@orbitalranger5360]

i think he is a sith lord

[@lewisthisisjames6632]

@@orbitalranger5360 also

[@namelesssomebody2557]

Rakatans were the greatest threat. They actually suceeded.

[@thekhans2823]

Yeah and their only downfalls was themselves

[@geetslys]

It b like that

[@frost1262]

Agree but I’m pretty sure the empire would put up a fight in modern times before they go down though.

[@darkwolf4434]

The rakatans are pretty similar to the Goa'uld in Stargate, pretty cool to think about.

[@briannguyen6055]

@@thekhans2823 and the big sick

[@netrolancer1061]

The Rakatan Empire if it still survived could even rival and possibly defeat the Vong and do it while going on the offensive.

[@barnabassebesteny1490]

So could the true Sith if vitiate wasn't there, then again they wouldn't save much

[@huntclanhunt9697]

I think the dance could be said for most of these factions. One of the biggest advantages of the Vong was that the galaxy was divided among comparatively weak factions.

[@themanyouwanttobe]

The Rakatan Infinite Empire was on a whole other level

[@rainhymas277]

Honestly I think the Rakata would win with droid numbers as it's the only star wars faction that could produce armies as large as the GAR in a day or two, admittedly with weaker shields and weapons, but it's just the numbers and wave offensives, they could defeat anyone, but their down fall will always be themselves as they'll always seek to fight eachother.

[@Mephilis78]

Have you seen Kyle?

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Sith are a relatively new threat to the Galaxy, but they have caused so much death and destruction for nearly five thousand years. The Sith of Korriban, to the True Sith Empire, Revan Sith Empire, the New Sith Empire, the Brotherhood of Darkness, Bane Rule of Two, the Galactic Empire, and the One Sith have caused so much suffering and death that the Galaxy will never forget the Sith effects on the populace. The other factions of the Galaxy only had the advantages like technological weapons and ethereal abilities early in the conquest of the Galaxy, but the Sith will and has fought the Galaxy with similar advantages and disadvantages like the Galaxy. They will literally burn the Galaxy to cinders to win against their enemies and rivals.

[@thekhans2823]

Yep

[@Rensune]

Read up on the Rakatans. The Sith can't even Begin to touch that level of Destruction.

[@boneybaron2508]

Does Revan really count as a sith? In the end he wasn't after power just the destruction of the true sith and seeking power for powers sake is pretty much rule 1 of being a sith a criteria Revan doesn't really meet

[@davidk2023]

@@boneybaron2508 That wasn't really confirmed. It was the original idea of the kotor staff, but it never matured into anything. Anyway, that wasn't his primary reason for seeking power, it seemed like more of a subconscious reason for seeking power and dominating the republic. If you look at all the knowledge he left in his holocrons, you would easily see that he was seeking power for powers sake. In swtor, he became obsessed with the emperor only after the emperor mentally tortured him for 300 years.

[@boneybaron2508]

@@davidk2023 I trust that you have more knowledge however I still hold hope that I am right thanks for the clarification

[@thekhans2823]

The Rakatans at the height of their power, unstoppable

[@ironwolf2244]

Until they died..

[@TheLateOreo]

@@8bittChess the Star Forge is why they succeeded and also their final failure occured

[@leifster_cheifster]

@@TheLateOreo Where can I find the source for most of the Rakatan story and lore, as well as the eternal empire (I read the Revan book and am intrigued on more)

[@twisted_tales_fishing9348]

Then what stopped them..... Rey ????

[@white_will_smith]

@@leifster_cheifsterKnight's of the old republic one and two, the Revan book is agreed to be terrible amongst kotor fans

[@an0rangutan]

Wasn't the Rakatan Empire essentially terraforming slave owners but in a galaxy wide scale? They certainly had the power to destroy the Galaxy, but really they just wanted to subjugate it. Besides, without them we wouldn't have Kashyyk or countless other planets.

[@scheroxon7589]

True

[@simonsays5193]

They created Kashyyk?

[@an0rangutan]

@@simonsays5193 Yeah, well...no? They didn't create the planet itself if I recall, they just terraformed it to become a lush, resource rich planet that they could harvest from. They essentially turned it into the Kashyyk we know which made way for the evolution of the Wookies. And the was just 1 planet they terraformed, they terraformed many and were the "creators" of many planets and subsequent species that came from those planets.

[@WASDLeftClick]

It’s even rumored that they created humans right? One of if not THE most dominant species in the galaxy was potentially just their engineered slave race.

[@an0rangutan]

@@WASDLeftClick Yeah, pretty much. It's been awhile since I read up on a lot of this stuff, but like Duros for example I think are one of the only species that existed before the intervention of the Rakata, but essentially, without the Rakata, we wouldn't have the Star Wars Galaxy, it's because of them that the Galaxy is so vibrant, lush and diverse.

[@JaelaOrdo]

What was the most dangerous threat to the galaxy? I think I know Sand. It’s coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.

[@geetslys]

NOT LIKE ON NABOOOOOOO

[@niedersachse155]

I thought it were the wrist rockets, you just gotta watch those

[@stephenkenney8290]

Try spinning, that's a good trick!

[@m05513]

But sir, Tatooine was only a sandy wasteland because the rakatan's glassed the planet. Therefore, the Rakatan's have weaponized sand, making them the most dangerous threat

[@le_bandito]

I HATE THEM (sand)

[@GalaktischerHirnsauger]

1. Rakatan infinite empire 2. eternal empire 3. true sith empire 4. mandalorian neo crusaders

[@egzabiheryemsgen4982]

I say eternal empire, true sith, neo crusaders and then rakatas.

[@egzabiheryemsgen4982]

@@Gelph because they only conquered about 500 worlds, so they weren’t a threat to the wider galaxy, only immensely force rich worlds.

[@TheAETHER22]

"Star wars films lack source material." There is no lore! -Kathleen Kennedy 2019

[@dreademperor2094]

She's a lier

[@leviosdraekion6993]

And this is one of many reasons why people want her gone.

[@TheAETHER22]

@@leviosdraekion6993 It kinda pisses me off when i see her name in the mandalorian end credits with huge letters:) she doesn't deserve the credit for anything

[@gagida1829]

@@TheAETHER22 she deserved to get fired lmaoo

[@Bazerk101]

She single handedly destroyed a franchise

[@aryandey3012]

Isn't Disney the most dangerous Faction in the galaxy.

[@Saiyijon]

Good point. The power of Kathleen Kennedy to reach back through space time to retcon the history of an entire galaxy and ruin Star Wars is far more terrifying.

[@herrscherofisaf5592]

@@Saiyijon that’s a bruh moment. I mean a recton theory thanks for watching 😉

[@judaegekikamen4223]

She's even more terrifying than the sith, Rakata, yuzhan vong combined

[@demolition3612]

@@judaegekikamen4223 she is worse than abaloth

[@herrscherofisaf5592]

@@demolition3612 bruh 😂

[@Rensune]

Rakatans. Not only did they use the Dark side, they did so Recklessly. Unlike Valkorion.

[@thekhans2823]

Yes

[@Reoh0z]

Not only were they a foul taint on the galaxy, but they were a foul taint for over 10,000 years. You've got to rack up a lot of evil points over a period like that.

[@thekhans2823]

@ @Guardian Spirit . Yes

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Still, I think the Rakata were benign compared to Valkorion and his followers.

[@thekhans2823]

@ @@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge , the Rakatans would have beaten them, so

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate is the biggest threat.

[@boneybaron2508]

So Palpatine?

[@oliveragag8576]

@@boneybaron2508 Yeah cause for a while he won

[@le_bandito]

The senate was defeated easily in ep 6

[@nightstrikessds9027]

Probably the Eternal Empire, their fleet easily destroys Sith and Republic ships, but honestly it's the superweapon on Iokath which wipes out all life in the galaxy.

[@elisabethb.7088]

The superweapon was never under valkorions controll

[@davidk2023]

@@elisabethb.7088 If he is talking about zildrog, yes it was. Vitiate used it on nathema to wipe out all life, after which he devoured their essence with his ritual.

[@matthewtuckman4447]

@@davidk2023 yes in SWTOR but in Legends Canon/Old Canon Darth Vitiate took control of the Sith lords minds and made them perform a complex ritual, a dark side bomb, Vitiate devoured them every man, women, child and living thing on Nathima died that day that was the day Vitiate consumed all live on the planet of Nathema

[@davidk2023]

@@matthewtuckman4447 Yeah, that was retconned. The 8000 sith lords who's minds he dominated helped him set up the ritual to devour the force essense of every living thing when it died instead of allowing it to return to the force. Zildrog wiped out all life on nathema and vitiate used the ritual to devour them after they died and became immortal.

[@matthewtuckman4447]

@@davidk2023 i know thats pretty much what i said

[@elmaster48]

The thing about the eternal empire is that its fleet, the eternal fleet was is automated, completely controlled by the person who is in the eternal throne, when valyin (the last empress of the eternal empire) died the fleet entered a command of “attack” so they attacked every planet in sight, including the capital worlds of the republica and sith. Valkorion claims that if nobody takes control of the fleet then it would destroy all civilizations of the galaxy. Yeah sounds like bad desing, well it has mostly to do that the eternal fleet was created by the species known as iokath. One of their creations went wrong and caused their destruction. Valkorion found the ruins of their world and took the fleet, completely aware of the danger the fleet represent to the galaxy.

[@lnowne2352]

ah I see ur another swtor gamer

[@phoenixx913]

Honestly as far as Empires go the Rakatans were the most powerful. But as far as soldiers go. As far as soldiers go the Mandalorians are top of the food chain. And specialized in killing, war and what made them so terrifying was that they could fight on par with jedi and sith in spite of not having force powers. I mean what other culture in star wars do you know of that trains from childhood to become warriors, are equipped with the best and most powerful weapons in the galaxy, wear nearly indestructible armor, are capable of fighting on par with force users and ride around in giant sentient war droids that they ride from space onto the surface of a planet and turn them into virtual one man armies?

[@gooinitku5069]

Clones

[@josephseymour5386]

@@gooinitku5069 clones armour were not as strong as beskar mandalorian armour. Mandalorian armour is the only armour that actually works in star wars apparently.

[@garretth8224]

That indestructible armor is a rarity.

[@Watcher-in-the-Dark]

@@garretth8224 It wasn't so much a rarity at the height of their power.

[@levitschetter5288]

As I say, imagine Sparta and Prussia had a baby, and that baby turned around and called its parents pacifists. That's the Mandalorians

[@akechiv1855]

Peak Rakatans (Star Forge in their possession) would be a big pick I think. In terms of dark and scary.

[@blackshogun272]

Akechi V and amongst their dark empire reigned smaller ones with armies and rulers just as fearsome, cruel, and powerful as The Rakata. Though, in later years upon the upcoming doom of the Infinite Empire, these other horrid alien empires would crumble or "mysteriously" be destroyed...

[@spoomftheimmortal4960]

@@blackshogun272 no... not just as cruel. The rakatan ate their slaves and made them eat one another out of boredom or to break them. In starwars quite frankly nothing out competes the rakatans for cruel and unusual. All sentient life is food to them and slave. They would even eat one another. Cruel barbaric uncompromising refusing to negotiate and unyeilding. Enslaving consuming and slaughtering everything in their path for not being rakatan.

[@blackshogun272]

@@spoomftheimmortal4960 oh we'll see if they stay that high on the cruelty list after the extended edition of Supernatural Encounters drops...

[@spoomftheimmortal4960]

@@blackshogun272 unless they intend to make mothers eat their children you'll be hard pressed to top it 🤣😂🤣😂

[@TheRevanchrist]

I say when Vitiate was Emperor, the Sith empire was at its most threatening. While the Sith Ideology itself was still a threat after the Hero of Tython defeated him, Vitiate's plan was to use his empire as a catalyst to consume the living force entirely, a feat that only Darth Nihilus once threatened before with the difference was that Nihilus did so out of instinctive self preservation. After his death, the ensuing power struggles that followed allowed the Empire to diminish as a threat as they became not too different from Palpatine's Galactic Empire with the only threat they pose was possibly creating wounds in the force with their war of vengeance against the jedi and an expansion of their borders.

[@darth_dan8886]

For me, the Rakatan Infinite Empire is certainly a scarier threat than the True Sith. When at war, nobody asks the question, "What happens if the enemy wins." The only question that matters, is "How do we win?". With the Sith, they can be defeated. They have fleets that can be destroyed, key planets you can take... With the Rakata, it is this unstoppable, unending force that comes down from the unknown regions of space and seems to be absolutely everywhere... A wave of power that cannot be stopped, no matter what you throw at them. You will only stall their advance at best. That prospect is far, far scarier to me.

[@blackshogun272]

The Celestials themselves did not lose the cosmic war they waged against the Rakata and their allies but rather their sentient creations: the Firstborn, along with their very own offspring races. The Celestials refused to condone or assist their creations in warfare and chaos; anything tied to violence and destruction was despised by them and would immediately have them depart from the galaxy/realspace dimension. Had the Celestials (like Wutzek and Horliss-Horliss) been free to do as they wish against the enemies of The Firstborn and their offspring races, The Infinite Empire and a many other powerful, cruel, and ancient empires would have been erased from existence in a matter of moments. But permitted they were not, and so they would leave the galaxy and pass on to different realms. At some time during The Cosmic Wars, Wutzek would be trapped by The Cult of Five with an nigh-unstoppable Angle-Trap and eventually be freed by Luke and his companions thousands of years later after they too were abducted by the insidious cult in the mysterious zone of the Expansion Region called The Hellhoop. That was little too long. Anyways, The nigh-omnipotent Celestials and their entire species are literally the 2nd most powerful beings in the Star Wars mythos/multiverse. The only thing that stands above them in unrivaled power and influence is their Creator. The Force itself and the boundaries of the universes were shaped by this being and it itself has existed long before time ever began its natural flow towards eternity and before The Celestials were ever created.

[@SuperGoose42]

This "creator" sounds like the Christian God

[@blackshogun272]

Super Goose the creation of this being was definitely somewhat inspired by it. There's a very well crafted fanfic story called "The Godform Assumption of StarCrow the Wise" where the story is basically a what-if scenario, what if there was a Jesus-like figure in Star Wars history? It's a long, well-written, and nebulously constructed epic poem that takes references from many other ones; mostly religious.

[@williampaulsinghharika2627]

The Rakata wiped out the Celestials. In Panik the Celestials put up barriers to keep the Rakata away, they crushed every barrier, every defense, even the most powerful ceelstials where able to create.

[@blackshogun272]

@@williampaulsinghharika2627 did you read my comment I made months ago? Maybe I did include this, but all but 2 Celestials could actually participate in The Cosmic Wars due to their familiarity with the forces ravaging the ancient galaxy. The Rakata were an evil biological fusion of Gungan and Ongree created by the dark architect and Bedlam Spirit, Cold Dande Sine. Though the devotion of The Rakata as a species went more towards his sister Tilotny due to her more personal involvement with the myriad of abominations he made. Even though the Infinite Empire wasn't the only interstellar monarchy roaming the stars of during the late Cosmic Wars, they by far had the most streamline society and advanced technology. For the very Star Forge they used was originally devised by Tilotny, Cold Dande Sine, and Splendid Ap. A common misconception fans get wrong with how powerful The Infinite Empire is is about their true numbers. Though their technology was unbelievably advanced for the time they existed in, their numbers as an intergalactic species was very low and the worlds they theoretically had absolute dominion over ranged between 300 to 500+. But that low estimate increases drastically if their hyperdrive capabilities didn't solely work on just Force-rich worlds. If they were able to "safely" traverse the void towards planets with average life signs then the number of worlds they conquered could be around 8,000+ easily.

[@saj2392]

Oh come on guys, the True Sith Empire is clearly the most powerful. After all, all the fashion designers fell to the Dark Side, and they got some killer outfits.

[@DevilDude912]

I dunno, I think the best look to come out of swtor was actually the armored Jedi design. It's timeless.

[@sharity3289]

Rakatans... but the Ssi-Ruuk's entechment was pretty darn scary...

[@ProphetsCrusade]

The Eternal Empire also had the Eternal Fleet which was pretty much unstoppable without a very specific ship and they also had access to Iokath with all of thier tech. However you are right it kinda was all dependent on Valkorian being there and when he wasnt it did fall apart

[@bradmalmer9385]

Gotta love it when the sith just casually become the most horrific threat in the galaxy for the umpteenth time, you know?

[@thekhans2823]

Yeah

[@donjon5442]

Well there’s a simple explanation for that, because they are...

[@lewisthisisjames6632]

First comment Edit: The biggest threat is the clanker emipre, we had the most powerful being in star wars: THE GONK DROID!!!!

[@geetslys]

GONK GONK GONK

[@lewisthisisjames6632]

Thanks for replying to me geetsly.Your my favorite you tuber great vid.

[@thekhans2823]

@ @@lewisthisisjames6632 , you bad

[@NobleS1236]

@@geetslys *G O N K*

[@aronnemeth1813]

The Gonk droid is the biggest threat to the whole univers if they unlished thear power

[@ericrivas4106]

Arcann and Thexan were indeed strong, but then there was Vaylin.

[@mlgsty8880]

Eternal Empire wasnt backup plan, it was Vitiates main focus since Jedi civil war as Vitiate had grown tired of the treachery and pettiness of Sith. Also its not confirmed if he actually wanted to eat whole galaxy. Completely forgot Vaylin who wielded even greater power than Arcann or Thexann. Also another thing forgotten was that Vitiate stopped ruling it before they subdued both Republic and Sith as it was ruled by Arcann and after him Vaylin. You seem to gone over this quite hastily as this was really poor research on Eternal Empires part. And even worse is you deciding to say that it wasnt interesting faction when you didnt even research it properly bruh. I could go on and on about how interesting they actually are.

[@xeronix9774]

He said in the light side ending of the jk storyline that he would consume the galaxy and every living being in it

[@pepperedash4424]

The First Order sounds suspiciously similar to Geetsly's description of the Eternal Empire. Just like how Darth Sidious' Sith Eternal from ROS sounds like the above mentioned Eternal Empire, they both even used cults to prop themselves up.

[@Mobysimo]

Honestly I get the feeling he just doesn't care about the Eternal Empire or Valkorion.

[@1qplayer626]

@@Mobysimo yes He cares about valkorion because He said He was terrifying. But the eternal empire was just stupid. Even though its fleet was very bis it was too autimated. And did you see how easily darth marr killed Those zakuulan knights in the throne room? That are supposed to be the warriors who are better than jedi and sith? And one sith just clapped 5 of them and would have killed all of them if He wasn't killed by valkorion? And after the death of valkorion's body, arcann took over who was also incompetent just like Kylo ren and was Split between light and dark? His rule was unstable as his own psyche and in the end He was defeated and turned to the Light side and helped the outlander bring down zakuul. Even vaylin was defeated easily by the outlander and then valkorion was killed by the outlander in his head and ZING: the eternal empire ceased to exist after one year the outlander was freed from carbonite. An empire that falls within one year? Jow pathetic. The eternal empire should have been something like a true sith death cult empire and not this rubbish. The eternal empire was valkorion's Biggest mistake and it lead to his downfall. His sith empire survived far longer even after the Fall of zakuul. So valkorion should have been disappointed and not proud.

[@1qplayer626]

They Lasted only one year after the outlander was freed From carbonite. Their troops were Weak and were kilmed by darth marr, arcann was a whiney kylo ren, vaylin couldn't Use her Potential and valkorion was killed in the head of the outlander. After that the eternal empire ceased to exist! After one fucking year! Do you call that interesting?

[@user-mw3uf3ku3k]

I agree with this list despite the Eternal empire being my favourite star wars faction in history. Overall the empire of zakuul wasn't as terrifying as the Sith or the rakata and was what Vitiate created after her saw the sith as beneath him. Vitiate thought he had surpassed the fact of being a simple sith but saw himself as a God. He didn't care anymore about the dark or light for he really just used it as a tool. He saw himself as the power in the galaxy that rose to take control of the force. The empire of zakuul was the idea of him getting out of the ideology of the sith. Creating his own thing, and it wasn't necessarily and evil empire. He saw that when he would kill every living being in the galaxy, there wouldn't be sith , nor jedi, there would be him and his new empire to which he would literally be a god. I recommend Dudu film's video about valkorion he goes really infepth

[@nkosig4995]

Rakkatans beat THE CELESTIALS. what's vitiate going to do. "I shall devower your planets and your life forc- what's that" -small droid locks him in a alternate dimension-

[@davidk2023]

Well, don't forget, a small strike team was able to defeat Soa and he ruled 1000 planets as one of the rakata warlords. Although, I guess he wasn't at full power then ...

[@nkosig4995]

I mean, the force powered the machines and ablilites. Without it literally all they had was their fists and that's litteraly it.

[@davidk2023]

@@nkosig4995 What does that have to do with Soa getting beaten by a small strike team?

[@G59forlife.]

Sounds familiar... Vitiate is basically Nihilus but looks weirder and unfortunately more powerful

[@Saiyijon]

It's clearly the Rakatans. They weren't defeated by an army that out smarted or out gunned them. Had they not lost their connection to the force, they would probably still have the galaxy enslaved.

[@gabrielcarrasco8414]

Even scarier is that eventually the force restores balance. It took nearly 35000 years to do so.

[@eeurr1306]

After that logic dying of Corona virus would make me unstoppable. If the rakatan had to face the starwars galaxy at the time of the true sith empire they wouldve lost eventually

[@johnmoshos2435]

People are really underestimating the Rakatans. Didn't they create almost every superweapon in the series? Infinite resources and ships, exploding stars, making planets collide with each other, instant teleportation both on and off planet, prisons that transcend time and space. Also, technology is not a factor here, because their knowledge was lost after their fall, and the rest of the galaxy rediscovered it. They may have been even more advanced than Palpatine's Empire.

[@theoscott5266]

The Jedi. Religious zealots can justify anything (like stealing children) because they think they have good on their side.

[@pepperedash4424]

They don't steal children, it's legally mandated by the Republic for them to collect children. They will even ask for permission to do so, even if doing so isn't required. What non force sensitive parent would be stupid enough to raise a force sensitive child anyway? A force sensitive child's temper tantrums have the potential to maim or kill atop of causing nearby collateral damage. This whole Jedi stealing children claim needs to die.

[@theoscott5266]

@@pepperedash4424 See ^^ justify anything :P

[@pepperedash4424]

@@theoscott5266 How is it "justifying" when everything I said is true lore wise. They were given legal permission by by the Republic that needed to maintain a stable population of Jedi to kee. Jedi would go out of their to ask permission and would leave a family alone if they were turned down. Who would teach them about the dangers of the dark side? Their parents? Unchecked emotions lead to the dark side and child are unable to maintain that. This video is indicative of what the dark side can do; if the Jedi didn't intervene there would dark side imbued gangs with a lord of the flies mentality sprouting wherever a sapient population would reside.

[@DevilDude912]

I think Zakule and the Eternal Empire deserve the top spot, sure they crumbled after their leader died but the same can be said of most of the others too. The thing that makes Zakule so scary is how easily they defeated everyone else, remember they had the true sith empire AND the republic to contend with and stomped them both at the same time without really even breaking a sweat. Think about that, to hyper-militarized galactic scale superpowers and one planet just crushes them. And don't forget the scariest thing about the true sith wasn't their tech or their people it was Vitiate, and he abandoned them as a failed experiment. He also apparently managed to make Valkorian's body physically immortal somehow.

[@Bluntermocha]

Personally I think that a lot of people vastly understate the power of the eternal empire. Think about it. No other empire save the rakatan infinite empire conquered the whole of the known galaxy. Except the difference between them and the rakatans is that they did it in 5 years. Not thousands of years. And they basically did it on a whim.

[@aronnemeth1813]

They was the first empire and they ruled the galaxy before they can make another big faction that have the power to defend them in the time of the rakata every favtion only have one planet

[@sgtfoley7192]

I think it’s the Eternal Empire, simply their fleet was massive I mean it literally spanned a solar system with a small portion of it. Should Valkorian had survived I think it could have still been a presence in modern Star Wars, they’d simply in all sense of the phrase could overwhelm you with their raw power.

[@kodiakcalkins7883]

Let's face the facts. We all know Darth Binks and the Gungans could go toe to toe with any of these so called "empires" even on their worst days.

[@therealfreshswobo6443]

True words, my friend 😄👍

[@jaxxonad619]

an expanded universe channel... i feel like i'm finally home

[@historydude6022]

As much as I would like to say mandalorian I would have to say rakata. Their teraforming tech was amazing with things like star forge. They only lost after they lost the forve

[@violentscorl697]

agree

[@ether2275]

How well would they have faired against the eternal fleet?

[@historydude6022]

@@ether2275 good question. Maybe they rakata will win maybe the enternal I can't tell

[@wojciechandrzejczak2386]

@@ether2275 probably the rakatans would win. "Oh boohoo one of my ships was destroyed, let me wipe my tears with the 5 new ones i created in the star forge."

[@eeurr1306]

@@wojciechandrzejczak2386 They couldve destroyed the star forge though

[@ledanoir1239]

lol, I found really interesting the eternal empire :c gived me OT vibes while still a new aesthetic

[@Raeinok]

Imperial Guardsman would see fighting any of these empires as a vacation.

[@rokmun680]

True

[@Kevc00]

None of their weapons can compare to the humble lasgun and the Emperor's blessing

[@nobleman9393]

The infection spreads

[@comradekenobi6908]

lol the True Sith Empire is literally Khorne cultilts lol, "Chaos" "Infinte War"

[@therac197]

@@comradekenobi6908 Cultist, but they have no access to daemons

[@hiddenleafshinobi2608]

The rakatans were easily the biggest threat. If they hadn't lost the force they'd still rule the galaxy.

[@TheSuperRatt]

I low-key believe it was the Force itself that unleashed the plague that stripped them of their powers. Eventually, the Infinite Empire would have corrupted the entire galaxy irreversibly to the Dark Side, and since no one was capable of opposing them, the Force had to step in. A plague that strips the infected of their connection to the Force, against a civilization dependent on the Force? Way too convenient to be anything else. Only other option would be Rakatan dissidents. They'd be the only ones who could possibly gather the infrastructure and manpower necessary to engineer such a pathogen.

[@hiddenleafshinobi2608]

@@TheSuperRatt I agree

[@blackshogun272]

TheSuperRatt sometimes The Force (or it's Whills) will lash out in retaliation to great pain and evils. The results have been seen multiple times during: The Cremlevian War (Yuuzhan Vong), the Fall of the Infinite Empire, and during the Plagueis and Sidious's advanced midichlorian experiment.

[@gagida1829]

You missed a faction called "Disney"

[@gagida1829]

@@dartheverstar9564 this guy clearly doesn't know what Disney did to Star Wars

[@jedichandler13]

Are we just forgetting Valin? She’s scarier than everyone on this list. She’s just mega evil plain and simple

[@anastasiab9506]

she was not mega evil. She was a young girl who was tortured for years because her father was shitlessly scared of her.

[@xylogram4168]

@@anastasiab9506 A reason why she's quite evil, and scary for that matter.

[@leviosdraekion6993]

Wait. The race that opened the Rakatans to the force had stargates?! That is screaming of a possible Stargate crossover.

[@jaingskirata4276]

Easily the mandalorians imo. They are cold blooded killers also they look hella cool. Fight me Edit: I’m well aware I was wrong

[@thekhans2823]

No

[@someone-pz4dg]

This is the way

[@misterkirikou]

The eternal empire and the sith empire would obliterate them

[@nkosig4995]

Rakkatans would lock them all up in a alternate dimension and erase their memories while driving them insane if their advance droids (even the small ones can kill jedi) don't just yeet the planet

[@thekhans2823]

@ @@misterkirikou , and the rakatans would absolutely obliterate the eternal and sith empires

[@AncestorEmpire1]

Sand and the lack of patience to wait for an opening

[@joshuapowell2675]

The Rakata are for sure the scariest and most powerful. I mean they defeated the Celestials, the literal gods of the Star Wars universe. We saw how powerful just 3 of them were (the Father, Son, and Daughter) in the Clone Wars animated series. Anakin, Ashoka, and Obi-Wan didn't really stand a chance toe-to-toe. So any empire that could wipe out thousands or more of them is easily the most powerful

[@lordferbus2970]

Didn't Anakin fold the Son and Daughter

[@joshuapowell2675]

@@lordferbus2970 Kind of. It took the Father forcing him to do it and the children were kind of passively set up for Anakin to control. The Son ends up killing the Daughter, the Father kills himself which distracts the Son so Anakin can kill him. All of the real fighting shows the Jedi being totally overwhelmed

[@lordferbus2970]

@@joshuapowell2675 ah Fair enough

[@joshuapowell2675]

@@lordferbus2970 But I do want to say that you brought up an excellent point that I had to go back and watch to make sure I wasn't remembering wrong. It's only a brief moment where Anakin (the chosen one) has real power. And that's just 3 celestials (we don't know their power in relation to others). Imagine thousands of them

[@nategraham6946]

Well, the eternal empire conquered both the republic and the sith empire, without Valkorion.

[@aronnemeth1813]

But they can hold it if Valkorion was still the ruler

[@johnault4425]

Mandos definitely

[@geetslys]

Queue the awesome horn music.

[@MultiSplitsecond]

I mean they were super soldiers wearing tank armor and it took a jedi doing a maximum Jihad move to stop them and the republic just barely won at that

[@mcstriker]

@@MultiSplitsecond Revan do be op, need nerf

[@zexalbrony4799]

Well damn. I had heard of the Rrakata and the New Crusaders because of your previous video but those Sith ones were new and quite horrifying to me. Great video like always. Not only is your work constantly entertaining, but some of it is also helpful for my Star Wars fanfics, such as the Clone ranking system, how many troops are in each unit from Squads to Legions, or even locations of sectors of space when I'm thinking about where to put a planet from another series in a crossover, since I don't like to be lazy and just put the planet in the Unknown Regions like most others I want to have an actual purpose and place for it like in the rim somewhere. So thanks for both entertaining me and constantly helping me increase my Star Wars knowledge. I can't wait for your next video tomorrow on the next new episode of The Mandalorian which I'm also looking forward to.

[@Nikoli492]

Try looking up some star wars old republic gameplay if you want to know more about the sith/ eternal empire.

[@kit4104]

A good rpg/film setting place during the true sith empire would be such a blessing. I know swtor but Im talking about a full on, story driven (open world?), RPG.

[@jonahstirbis3408]

Vitate was scary as hell!

[@davidk2023]

you saw the scene of him singing as well, huh.

[@jonahstirbis3408]

@@davidk2023 no he scared me when he could still devour force energy from someone even if he is a ghost and he also was in the outlanders body when he/she was in carbonite!

[@davidk2023]

@@jonahstirbis3408 ah I see. I was surprised when as a ghost he ragdolled the outlander, forced him to bow, controlled his mind forcing him to submit and then easily knocked him out.

[@jonahstirbis3408]

@@davidk2023 exactly

[@lowqualityproductions4740]

Hello there

[@calebcustombricks2631]

General Kenobi

[@magnustherad3291]

You are a bold one

[@geetslys]

Kill him!

[@kmk5626]

Back away! I will deal with this jedi slime, myself.

[@lewisthisisjames6632]

@@kmk5626 imposter

[@needtoknow6423]

1. The Eternal Empire 2. The Rakatan Empire 3. The Sith Empire 4. The Mandalorian Neo Crusaders The reason why I choose the Eternal Empire as the greatest threat to the Galaxy, is it's perfect design. The Sith Empire (until Emperess Acina/Emperor Vowrawn) destroyed itself. The constant infighting was the main reason why they were not able to win the war. And this is the main reason, why Vitiates plan failed. The Mandalorians didn't have the power of the force and even if they had won against the republic, they would've been defeated by the Sith Empire. The Infinite Empire on the other hand focused to much on the Force. Yes, they defeated the Celestials, but they weren't intellectual enough to create a Empire which could outlive the Force. Strip away the Force from the Rakatans and they are nothing. Strip away the Force from the Eternal Empire and you still have the largest fleet in galactic history and a massive droid army against you. The Eternal Empire was a perfectly created Empire. Valkorion ruled not through fear, which means that there's no obvious reason to rebel against it. And than there's the Eternal Fleet. And it's an absolutely terrifying enemy for any military Commander. In my opinion, the Alliance could've never defeated it without Valkorion. And it's the only Empire in galactic history that conquered nearly the entire galaxy by force. And it was Emperor Arcann who conquered the galaxy, not Valkorion. So it didn't fall apart when Valkorion died. It's time as the dominant power in the galaxy ended, when the Eternal Fleet was destroyed. And even then the Eternal Alliance (which was the Eternal Empire with an other name in my opinion) was still a major force in galaxy. These are the reason, why it's the greatest threat in galactic history in my opinion.

[@Mobysimo]

Honestly I don't Geetsly ever finished Knights of Eternal Throne. Or played it for more than five minutes Zakuul didn't collapse because their emperor fell. It's army and navy were taken by the Allience and used as a peacekeeping tool until the Eternal Fleet's destrcution

[@steffent.6477]

I don't really understand Vitiates plan to eat the life in the whole galaxy. He was very proud of the eternal empire and wanted it to last forever but how does that work with his bigger plan to become godlike?

[@mlgsty8880]

It was never actually confirmed if his endgoal was to eat everything up. He after all said he saw light when he fully commited to Zakuul after destruction of Ziost. And by his own words he wished to spread Eternity and be God which he already achieved by being Emperor of Zakuul.

[@steffent.6477]

@@mlgsty8880 But Zakuul was much smaller compared to his earlier goals. And he wasn't really interested in the conquest of the Sith empire and Republic done by his sons. I can't believe he would just be sitting on the eternal throne doing nothing for eternity.

[@davidk2023]

his goal wasn't to eat everything, it was to make sure he would never die. He wanted to live forever and try many different roles in life. A farmer, an artist, a simple man, a father, a husband, an alliance commander. His long life taught him that the most important thing in life was not power, or empires, or death; the most important thing was life itself. Living as long as possible and having as many experiences as possible (even if they seem foolish to us). This is one aspect of him people have trouble understanding. This is why he was not a sith. A true sith chases power only for the sake of power. They want to become more power only for the sake of becoming more powerful, and when they become the most powerful ... they want to become even more powerful than that. Sith do no fear anything because they believe in their power. Valkorion clearly feared death more than anything, so he chased power so he could live as long as possible and experience as many different aspects of life as possible. He didn't fear death because he was afraid to lose power however, he feared death because it would rob him of a chance at experiencing life. Hope I was able to explain it well. He is a very complex and multidimensional character.

[@steffent.6477]

@@davidk2023 Very good explanation. But that wasn't his goal befor Ziost.He was very hungry and I think he said himself that he would eat everything. Maybe getting killed twice in short time (or loosing 2 voices) changed him but the change between Valkorion and Vitiate is like they are 2 completly different persons.

[@aronnemeth1813]

@@steffent.6477 that not that easy, yes he said that to the outlander in there dream but we know from Koth that Valkorion was very different from Vititate, he not want to consume the whole galaxy truly just enough planet to make him enough powerful to have control over life itself, he want to live to experience evry aspect of life, from God to peasant

[@TheAntiburglar]

The REAL scariest faction of all.....the Ewoks. Yub nub!

[@AironSmieciowy-di3qy]

Great video!

[@Necro-s]

You kinda went harsh on the Eternal empire. The Eternal fleet, a technology from iokath was probably one of the greatest fleets in the history of the galaxy. Normal troops, - skyptroopers, weren't in fact too bad. The knights, who possessed a unique vision of the Force and neither Jedi no Sith could defeat them consistently. Also Sions (later went in exile), who could see the future (mostly). And ofc Valkorion and his children. The Eternal empire was no joke, Imo you kinda underrated them in this video.

[@Mobysimo]

To be harsh you need to talk about them in details He barely talked about them, ignoring Vaylin, the Skytroopers, the Scions and just mentioned the Knights of Zakuul. And he talked more about Valkorion who spends most of the time helping you against the Eternal Empire because he wants to take over your body and be the Outlander

[@Necro-s]

@@Mobysimo Yeah, but those events are what led to its end (Valkorion being a bad dad). But objectively, Eternal Empire is OP

[@garretth8224]

If only the Yuuzahn Vong were still canon.

[@shawnabraham7740]

I think they might be retconned in Disney canon, if ya read Thrawn, at the end he warns Emperor Palpatine about an unknown threat.

[@goldsaber4398]

How do you not have at least one million subs now

[@kevind3974]

The Rakatans are back in canon. We got one of the strongest factions back. Can’t wait to see how they are in canon

[@samrizzardi2213]

So the rakata were basically the star wars equivalents of babylon 5's shadows?

[@Mephilis78]

I love legends. I like hearing about the real Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade. I used to love the wellspring of novels that popped up around the prequel, including my favorite aliens Zabraks and Sith, but nothing beats the lore that Bioware came up. As far as I am concerned this is canon. I have problem with erasing Disney's bs, just like I have problem erasing the Kelvin timeline and every other NuTrek creation. JJ Abrams is the destroyer of franchises.

[@Vityaz1917]

I think the only thing preventing the Eternal Empire from dominating the galaxy is that while extremely deadly, they weren’t dangerous, until Arcann took over, the Empire didn’t have the aggression to conquer the galaxy

[@thegreatjohnjohnson4016]

I can never hear the music in the background

[@Shadeem]

The Gungans

[@jaredbanister369]

To me I think that the Empire was the most dangerous because: ruled by evil sith, created unbelievably horrible weapons, and often times enslaved those they considered their enemies(ex: wookiee), plus they conquered more of the galaxy then anyone else.

[@jaredbanister369]

They enslaved like the rakata, where ruled by darksiders like vitiate empire, and used terrible weapons like the neo crusadors. This makes the Empire the combined evil of all the other empires mentioned.

[@jaredbanister369]

Plus did genocide by killing geonosian.

[@aronnemeth1813]

The Eternal Empire conquered the whole galaxy with fight in one year they have a super weapon that can destroy the whole galaxy on Iokath and Valkorion easly kill Sidius while laughing at him

[@maudika3892]

I'd give one more point to the Eternal Empire for it's fleet. A fully automated fleet of warships that could jump in, devastate an area, and then leave quickly was probably the most terrifying thing about the Empire after Valkorion.

[@aronnemeth1813]

I think the Eternal Empire easly the biggest threat while Valkorion rule it but Arcan not was enough powerful to rule such a big empire

[@alecro03]

Didn't Valkorion have the might of the eternal fleet?

[@parthiaball]

Great video! Should have added in the Yuuzhan Vong

[@JennyfaninSweden]

“-…Revan’s tactical genius” Creed: “-A worthy chess opponent at last”

[@davidh8367]

Before watching, I’m going with the banking clan. Common theme of them profiteering from both sides of every war points towards their involvement with the galaxy being in continuous upheaval.

[@TheGoodGman95]

honestly the old republic has some serious dune vibes to it and i friggin love it you can think of dromund kaas as the planet of the elite warriors of the empire in dune the Sardaukar. You cant tell me that famous blood ritual from the new movie doesn't scream sith also lets just face it Mandalorians are just intergalactic space vikings. They plunder for loot and they view the heat of battle as a sacred honor to die in combat is the greatest thing. thats a friggin viking

[@chengzhou8711]

“I knew of the infinite empire from a few committed scholars that I met. I found a couple of their artifacts while we were exploring some desolate planet because the chancellor was interested in the planet for some reason. Definitely not a common topic nor a frequent destination.. From what I can tell, they succumbed to their immense hatred. The galaxy has a very long history, but we sure bore a decent brunt of it.” CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion

[@jesusrodriguez256]

The Rakata-Infinite Empire and The True Sith should be tied if you ask me but other than that I agree with your ranking

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

I believe the sith empire & the Eternal empire were equals at were the number one threat of the galaxy and number 2 is the Rakata empire ....the mandalorians is last

[@Engifarting456]

4:50 I AM GOING INSANE (look bottom right)

[@DrownInLysergic]

I really want the Rakatans to come back. They're already canon in the Disney new canon but not everything about them is canon. In Legends, a bunch of them fled to the unknown regions so there were the ones on Rakata Prime during the time of Revan and a bunch in the unknown regions attempting to rediscover their connection to the force. If the ones on Rakata Prime eventually went extinct, I really hope the ones in the Unknown Regions were at least somewhat successful and they can appear somewhere in the new canon.

[@couldntfindaname966]

As always, the sith rule supreme

[@Omnipulsar]

The rakatans were such a threat to the galaxy the force itself needed to make a plague to get rid of them

[@AquaAura-yd2vr]

I would LOVE to see a Darth Revan film

[@grandmasteryoda8919]

The Infinite Empire vs The Eternal Empire

[@davidk2023]

Eternal empire had stronger force users and a MUCH stronger fleet. But the infinite empires numbers were literally infinite, so in the end I would think the infinite empire slowly wins by attrition unless Valkorion takes control of the star forge-in which case eternal empire STOMPS.

[@eeurr1306]

@@davidk2023 Or they just destroy the star forge with weapons of mass destruction

[@diegoprodriguez]

As much as I like TOR era and the Republic/Empire conflict, I think I do agree with Bane that there should only be two Sith.

[@Kenneth_A_H]

I'd say the eternal Empire was more effective but less Horrifying than the manolorians. All it took for the EE to quickly fall apart is the death of one man then maybe it wasn't good enough to be above the Mandalorians. I would say that the mandalorians casual genocide and planet destruction was more horrifying than the bread and butter conquering of the EE. My overall ranking would be Rakatan Empire, the true sith, the Manolorians and the the EE.

[@SLAMATTAXFAN]

Do a what if the rakata fought the vong

[@scheroxon7589]

I think they should just chill and smoke some of yodas hairs

[@geetslys]

Dude, what are YOU smoking?

[@scheroxon7589]

Idk man... but it‘s Good

[@aronnemeth1813]

death stick

[@benkenobi5128]

In The first 20 seconds he told me the republic was peaceful and the empire was vicious, this is incorrect for two reasons. 1. The republic started the clone wars. 2. The Galactic Empire fought off terrorists.

[@elliot5203]

The RAKATAN empire is one of my favorite empires they did everything right just like the British Soldier like mandalorians , technology far superior for their time, and determined fighters

[@LonnieBrewster]

Initially an evil empire, eventually a nice cheese.

[@HamanKarn567]

I hated the rakata. Always kill them no matter if I'm light side or dark side.

[@geetslys]

Don't you have to kill one of them no matter what path you take?

[@white_will_smith]

@@geetslys Yep but there is the true rakata and the warriors

[@steffent.6477]

The true Sith empire seems so different in swtor when you play as Sith or Imperial. Sure they are scary and mostly evil but nothing as big as what you descibe here.

[@DaddyHensei]

A lot of the true sith are so evil it’s comedic even in swtor.

[@aronnemeth1813]

in swtor the eternal empire conquere the whole galaxy and defeat the true sith empire and the republic in one year

[@keithkahler1327]

to be fair, the Jedi did not necessarily follow the will of the force either, and I found it rather hilarious to expose their hypocrisy regarding certain aspects of the force

[@shadowpack7484]

Imagine a mandalorian sith

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

It would be a bitch trying to kill them, the armor would pretty much make a lightsaber or blaster useless in a fight. If the Mandalorians were by and large force sensitive like the other factions in the video the Republic would've been fucked.

[@zerggedxh1054]

Favorite SWTOR class, go.

[@daniel_njf]

rakatans were basically forerunners of star wars galaxy or forerunners were rakatans of halo univers🙄

[@betterlatethannever4529]

Rakata vs The Usan Vong

[@julianG1212]

6:49 sounds like aoc

[@zeuxconors2185]

Bruh the eternal empire is lit af idk wat u mean. And the eternal empire is def more of a threat than the sith they litterally ran through the sith and republic at their heighst

[@elisabethb.7088]

The sith empire wasn't at it"s height but agreed the eternal empire is stronger

[@malikthemadman]

The Hutts they are the best.

[@merakimelodies8931]

Everyone forgot Darth Mause, formerly known as Micky. 😂 *Be sure to grab a brochure and join the darkside sing-along from the Death-Star’s observation-deck during scheduled planetary-obliterations.* Ok, actually, on second thought, Darth Mause should be canon. 😂