Nvidia Geforce RTX 5090 - What's the catch?

[@SL4PSH0CK]

ah here we see the fitting living room of someone who bought the 5090 at launch

[@dantekiwi7926]

philip is a strange guy

[@CLOYO]

He just doesn't have a gf ​@@dantekiwi7926

[@starc.]

@ why do you need a living room? The gaming room is my sleeping room too and there is no life in here lol

[@Exigentable]

@@dantekiwi7926 2scalpphilip

[@bauer9101]

Can’t wait for the RandomgaminginHD review in 8 years

[@ExoCalibra]

thats a very cultured joke

[@Sinbad1999]

"OEM 5090 Blower style card is a BEAST...and very hot"

[@CaelVK]

dont forget the iceberg tech video too

[@tomalexander4327]

"How does 2025's 5090 perform in a CEX ex-business machine?"

[@Gadtkaz]

@@Sinbad1999 8 slot blower card pulled right out of an alienware!

[@opperslang]

"I'm trying to be professional" he said in a bathrobe and pajama pants with a cat on his lap Thank you mr klikman, you are like no other

[@junyaiwase]

Excuse your fresh mouth, it doesnt get more professional than this.

[@UD503J]

No other channel is going to include a live cat during the graph slides

[@ZeroPM]

If a cat trusts you, she gives you a headbutt. If you trust a cat, you let her walk around GPUs worth $4000 on the edge of a table.

[@superbroleon]

That is *_the_* most gently cat. The way she danced around those GPU's..

[@freshfishonly]

that's not a real cat. it's a pillow that kind of looks like a cat...

[@TheLolilol321]

@@freshfishonly fooled me

[@Neon-Void]

@@freshfishonly 10:40 That is a very active pillow

[@alteito]

So you're saying I shouldn't have sold my 4090 for $50 on marketplace?

[@FahmiZFX]

Yeah, should've sold it for $5 and to me instead.

[@Nezzen-]

I'm not sending it back

[@xwaltranx]

do you have another one mate?

[@VanishedGlance]

I would like one like this

[@robbay8610]

You couldn't sell it for less than 2000 in todays market

[@kugi518]

Clicked your video instead of {insert tech youtuber here}.. love your down-to-earth takes on hardware

[@SL4PSH0CK]

Yea it doesnt felt like that infomercial format

[@Kamil_O]

what do you mean? This is tech youtuber.

[@InnuendoXP]

​@@Kamil_OPhilip is a tech youtuber the same way Red Dead Redemption is a horse grooming simulator - as-in, yes, sure, but he's a lot of other things as well & that's brought to bear in his style of review & how he measures the product in a wider context than the strict price:performance equation.

[@joeykeilholz925]

Let's go with LTT since they used an old cpu - nullifying any data.

[@kaitek666]

LTTs video was quite good, contained a lot of tests. even though some may complain about "old CPU", the performance delta is what's important here. I disliked the MrWhosetheboss' one, certainly too little research

[@Xarrant]

"Too hot, even for a cat" Wow that's hot!

[@kotprohorov]

That's a real benchmark

[@WayStedYou]

If I heats I yeets - cat probably

[@jme_eorde]

This might be your unintentionally funniest video yet in my opinion. The switch between all the unexpected Fluffykins appearancs, existential questions about why we still strive for more, and the genuine insight into how this generation of cards and technologies will affect gaming just warms my heart for some reason. (Also when are you going to release the RTX Fluffykins remaster?)

[@dantekiwi7926]

i might be crazy but philip's humor is very "David lynch" like, a mambo between raw sincerity and surrealist sillyness

[@joeykeilholz925]

God tier.

[@GmodArgentina]

Never stop making videos Phillip, you can make a video about any topic and it would be interesting. Big love from 🇦🇷

[@antoniomiranda1460]

My favourite cat channel on KZbin, you just have to put up with the guy talking about graphics cards

[@handlemonium]

Not Louis Rossmann's Mr. Clinton, Blackberry and Oreo?

[@fndjfgsdk]

None of Linus' employees lick his legs! That's why I come to 2kliksphilip for all my needs.

[@initial_kd]

they kiss his ass instead

[@skinnybuggo]

What

[@voidgivenfocus]

on camera*

[@beatyeah8840]

thank you for the catmera angles, and moving the graphs and footage out of the way. excellent work as always dont remember anything you said or showed but i prefer this.

[@sasu6094]

Shame that you get rude comments like that, I only found your channel in the last year or two but I greatly prefer your hardware reviews as they feel more... personal I guess. Any other channel is overly sanitized and... KZbin-y

[@2kliksphilip]

Thank you :) Yeah just part of the job of being shown online these days unfortunately. I get lots of nice comments too!

[@nekrovulpes]

It makes him feel more attainable. On some level I know the likes of Gamer'sNexusSteve are too good for me even as a parasocial friend. Klikphilip is someone who went on caravan holidays in the early 00s, just like me.

[@2kliksphilip]

Yeah Steve's too good for me too, I told him I wanted to be his dirty little tech slut and he never responded :(

[@vffa]

​@@2kliksphilip I mean. By all means, if someone wants Steve's attention you just have to push a big scam or be a hardware manufacturer doing shady business. Wouldn't that make for a great video? You could even cover -yourself- the totally unrelated KZbin named 3klicksphillip.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

The last year or two is precisely when Philip's content got bad as he got hyper focused on AI.

[@johnny5805]

Philip makes a good point in that many older cards cards (2 and 3 series) would benefit tremendously from MFG, yet they made it exclusive to the one series that DIDN'T need it !

[@Abby_Sciuto]

As someone using a 2080, the lack of frame generation without using a hack to get it working is kinda stupid really, like 20 series absolutely could benefit from FG and of course, MFG, but yeah sure let's give it to the way more powerful cards.

[@starbez]

Does not have optical flow.

[@wizzenberry]

@@starbez optical flow is just some matrix pipeline that accelerates by 0.17x, not needed

[@InHUM44n]

DLSS 4 no longer relies on Optical Flow, and an NVIDIA Engineer has stated that it's now a question of optimization to see if they can port FG to older hardware

[@keppycs]

But only with Reflex 2, otherwise the latency would still feel poor

[@BenFradella]

One thing to keep in mind with the low-latency async reprojection feature -- which you may have mentioned in your original video on it -- is that it _only_ affects movements! Firing a weapon or doing any other sort of "gameplay action" will still show the "true" latency. I could see this feeling really weird and disjointed as the latency grows higher.

[@2kliksphilip]

I cannot tell if the audio or visuals are out by 1/10 of a second, but CAN feel if there's even the slightest delay from my mouse inputs. I don't think the action on-screen being delayed will matter so long as my mouse adjustments feel instant.

[@somdudewillson]

I mean, a lot of games that really care about latency are already "reprojecting" a lot of gameplay actions - the CPU _can_ know you've done a thing before the GPU finishes rendering the next frame, after all.

[@RobloxianX]

We really took the 4090 for granted. That was a 70% uplift over the 3090. Now we have to deal with harsh reality, 30% uplift, 30% power draw increase. Exactly the same as the 2080 Ti to the 3090 was. I guess the 40 series wasn't that bad after all. At least, the 4090 wasnt

[@2kliksphilip]

4090 jumped several nodes. The 5090 not so much. Looks like they've focused on it's physical design and software features this generation

[@RazielXT]

40 series was Pascal level of evolution, it was just behind big price increase, unlike Pascal

[@hamzakhalil-gs7oc]

nah GPUs above 4070 are good, 70 class beating the old 3090 and just 4090 just miles away

[@RobloxianX]

@@hamzakhalil-gs7oc the 4070 matched a 3080 ti but it didn't beat a 3090 that's for sure, it was the 60 tier that ruined Ada, people were expecting the 4060 to be equal to a 3080 when the 4060 ti couldn't even get to a 3070

[@Myosos]

It's quite disappointing that no benchmark or review ever talks about VR. If you have a good quality headset you need to push rasterised games at crazy resolution and high framerate, and for that the 4090 was already limited and the 5090 might even be as well for upcoming headsets like the Pimax Crystal Super

[@theowainwright7406]

Does reflex 2 and mfg help in that regard?

[@Myosos]

@theowainwright7406 I seriously doubt it, relfex 2 looks close to what's done with motion reprojection, which gives the impression of higher framerate but with big visual artefacts, we'll have to see. Regarding frame gen, any upscaling or AI artefact is REALLY noticeable in VR, you basically have them right in front of your eyes. What does wonders is Dynamic Foveated Rendering but almost no game has native compatibility

[@sampic_]

​@@theowainwright7406 i feel like mfg would give massive motion sickness in VR. Your movements/inputs are still being put out at whatever fps the game is actually running at. VR needs to be responsive else you'll feel like your arms are in jell-o

[@Killswitch1411]

yeah we need more of these VR channels get involved with Benchmarking VR.

[@MnemonicHeadTrip]

VR is the one area where I feel like my 30 series card could really use an upgrade. I simply cannot render VR games at high resolutions before it gives up and the frames drop to single digits. 8GB of VRAM is also extremely limiting, it constantly maxes out when trying to push higher resolutions

[@Rafael96xD]

Cant wait to replace my PSU with a miniature nuclear reactor.

[@InnuendoXP]

The RTX6090 is gonna come with its own external power supply like the Xbox360's power brick.

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

@@InnuendoXP * (sold separately batteries not included)

[@Hugmir]

Your current presentation style is certainly Inspiring.

[@lau6438]

Warping interpolated frames to seem responsive would be an absolute game changer.

[@mactep1]

Game devs really need to start implementing asynchronous reprojection

[@mttrashcan-bg1ro]

Did you guys not hear about Reflex 2? It's exactly that, it's coming out I think with the 5090 launch, but won't be available for older RTX cards until later. It'll most likely get added to any game that already has Reflex 1 that still gets updates.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

>seem responsive You genuinely, wholeheartedly, actually fucking like the idea of being shown a facade of what you're playing?

[@MontySlython]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan You genuinely, wholeheartedly dont like the fucking idea of technology progressing? You sound moronic talking like that.

[@ShyMia]

​@@Mate_Antal_ZoltanGetting overly philosophical about it is useless. If you can't tell while playing and it offers a genuinely better experience, there's no reason not to use it. As long as the experience is the same, I couldn't care less whether or not it was achieved through raw bruteforced raster rendering or some other form of trickery. Raster rendering itself is full of hacks and trickery, it's always been, but I don't see people complaining about that. I don't get the double standard.

[@markusTegelane]

Took me a few seconds to realize that FE stands for "founder's edition" and not "fan edition"

[@crateer]

How drunk were you 😂

[@kaitek666]

funny edition

[@markusTegelane]

@@crateer i was sober unfortunately

[@unfa00]

Feline Edition

[@acrain7]

I love the casual presentation style you’ve gone with, it’s so entertaining

[@BKHD605]

Great review, Only thing I was kinda hoping you would cover is VR! VR is the only reason GPU's need to keep moving forward in raw raster power. The display port upgrade alone is going to drive the next 2-4 years of PCVR headsets. This GPU + A Headset that supports eye tracking will be insane for VR.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

The videogame industry itself is why cards need to keep getting more powerful rasterization. I highly doubt games will be stuck at the current level of graphical fidelity as they are now, not to mention higher resolution monitors getting more and more accessible.

[@LunarLaker]

the sponsorblock highlight just goes to caboosing that's golden

[@Flashv28]

Sponsorblock the goat

[@lukasg4807]

Wdym?

[@warvinn]

It always does :)

[@proCaylak]

@@lukasg4807 sponsorblock is an extension that works by someone from the community marking some sections of a video, usually sponsored segments, so that you can skip it automatically. in this case, they used it to skip some "annoying" parts.

[@noraonchair]

Why not it at fluffykin appearance 😺

[@tomalexander4327]

Love the lighting in this one, Phil. It's got a real early 2000s CIA black site vibe to it.

[@Ahmadabdal_]

10:41 phillips has turned into an old cat lady and i'm for it

[@PringleSn1ffer]

I suspect this card will be a good target for undervolting, just like the 4090 is. I would not expect that the full 600W is the sweet spot for power efficiency on this card.

[@swuspicious]

i love your perspective on tech so much more than dedicated hardware folks' often hivemind-ish views, please continue doing these!!!

[@neppy199]

thank you for the foot cam phil

[@imcarsick]

I'm not sure why, but this has become one of my favorite videos on youtube. I've rewatched it like six times.

[@keeganshulista1446]

Philip is the only youtuber that I watch every video from the day they are released. Hope you're having a good time Mr. Phillip

[@LeaderofThree]

Glad to see your uploading again Klikker man, Keep Going, Your voice is perfect for narration.

[@gameguy301]

The split between framerate and responsiveness happened even before frame generation thanks to Reflex. A little context, the render queue was a way to marginally improve performance by allowing the CPU to work ahead dumping instructions for the GPU to pick up so it never has to wait. The problem is that instructions sitting in the queue means the game state being rendered is stale. Reflex kills the render queue and enforces just in time draw call submission so draw calls are only generated right before the GPU is ready for them, this can slightly lower framerate especially in GPU bound scenarios but significantly improves responsiveness. Once upon a time Reflex was its own seperate SDK, a bit obscure it had a few e-sports titles using it. Being added to the requirements of DLSS3 was the best thing to ever happen to Reflex.

[@t1nkerium]

Thought I wasn't too interested in those "pure tech" videos after building a new PC; Congratz on proving me wrong. Truly captivating review.

[@nhentschelo]

Your camera angles were 11/10 in this review haha :D

[@mitsync]

I must say your review has made me appreciate the wide range of technologies the 50 series represents a lot more than I did based off of marketing and other reviews, in large part because it is very use-case focussed instead of numbers focussed. That in and of itself highlights the problem with these technologies though: there's no longer a good objective way to compare cards. FPS is easy, pacing and latency are doable, but the trade-off between smoothness, latency, and artefacts is nearly impossible to capture in a review and that ambiguity can be abused by marketing to push some very misleading figures. While I greatly respect the sheer scientific rigour of people like Gamers Nexus, this will be the review I'll share with others for this generation.

[@Brickfrog427]

Oh man, the face your cat makes at 11:33 is so wonderful. What a sassy looking cat.

[@skc-saturn]

Whenever Fluffy shows up I literally cannot focus on what you're saying. Great video, thanks Fluffy

[@WiLLiEx478]

man. its nice to see unfiltered. un-content-ed content about a piece of hardware i want to understand. if the efficiency is on the 4090. and im only playing reflexive games. hell. im better off getting a 3090/4090 anyday. as i never require. and even dislike the added features. i have a newer card. but i only need more compatiple reflex / frames outright. at an efficient rate. no need to upgrade my PSU. great coverage.

[@ReneHoffmann194]

I like your cozy way of presenting stuff

[@Ineedanaccountnow0]

Damn, I was really looking forward to you talking about reflex 2. I really think that's gonna change gaming forever

[@michaelg9121]

Very good video bro

[@Jusu]

Good analysis, have a nice day

[@prizrak-br3332]

The fact you don't have connections with other reviewers is a plus for me, it's harder for you to be swayed by their opinions.

[@wahidtrynaheghugh260]

I feel this is a rather optimistic view of this card, possibly unnecessarily. If it was released alongside the 40 series as a 4090 ti or Titan, it would make sense with the 1:1:1 price:power:performance increase. Instead, the 4090 is now discontinued and unobtanium, the 5080 will not outperform or match the 4090, and the 5080 does not have the comfortable 24G of vram one would expect for $1000. Also, it’s $2000. My rent is $2200. This is ridiculous.

[@UnePintade]

Well at least it's less than your rent

[@checker297]

i mean philip says it correctly, this is not for gamers - it is exclusively for people who want to brag about their gaming setup.

[@MontySlython]

Unnecessarily optimistic, wow, never thought I would hear the day where someone puts down new technology happening and someone being optimistic for the new direction things are going just to air out their grievances.

[@etmasikewo]

14:28 heck yes you did and I am so behind getting this in everything as a setting to toggle I adore the intentional lack of visual production quality while keeping your script to your own. The information matters so much more and I appreciate you presenting it the way it is

[@Hennannice]

Continuation of your 8k series when? :O

[@2kliksphilip]

I was like 'I've got a month before the 5000 series is released, plenty of time to finish it off!' then suddenly I didn't after my roof blew off, I attended an award show in Serbia, got hit HARD with covid or something and then suddenly found myself trying to test the 5090 in time before release lol. I'll get back to it, the 5090 actually makes the 8K topic more relevant

[@VelvetThunderB99]

​@2kliksphilip yes especially with the Samsung Odyssey G9 57 inch being 8K too

[@2kliksphilip]

7680x2160 isn't 8K- it's only half the number of pixels. It's the same as 2 4K screens

[@VelvetThunderB99]

@ Ah your right sorry. Was reading some comments on reddit comparing the 49 inch to the 57 inch and they were calling it 8K so was getting confused.

[@isaacweisberg3571]

I love the editing! You are way more casual and less strict that in the older videos! i hope it simplifies production!

[@Almondstash]

Just gotta say phil, I've been loving this new video format you're going with

[@tomallo99]

One of the best and most insightful reviews I've ever watched, thank you. What about VR though? Wouldn't the RTX 5090 overkill performance be actually useful and able to be utilized there? Especially with high resolution (4k-ish) per eye headsets incoming

[@second2noneonyt]

such a smart way to feature the mirror, graphs and STILL show your mouth moving!

[@Zigeuninja]

0:20 and increased price lol

[@KristianSandvikk]

also lineairlaidnly increased

[@outrowed]

25% price increase from $1,599... not counting the scalper prices

[@Zigeuninja]

@outrowed Yep, for a roughly 25% performance and power consumption increase lol. It's not even a generational upgrade, you're just paying more to get more.

[@JorisBax]

Nice review, thanks! And the cut to the mirror was just 👌👌.

[@Spealer]

Glad the 4090 is still looking like a good investment long term.

[@piggosalternateaccount4917]

I listem to your videos before bed, your narration is great. V good analysis!

[@evan-br]

Your diligence in these reviews are amazing. Every time I watch a video I think about commenting because of how good they are, but I usually just leave a like instead

[@SmileAndWave]

I'm enjoying the new formats of these videos!! Keep it up Phil:)

[@jaju123456]

Thanks for this chill style of video lol.. never change

[@Fury28356]

Glad you tried to give a nuanced approach. Great stuff cold man.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

This is the most original review so far, nobody approaches things quite like the Kliks man does

[@werstname]

its pretty nice to see such a nice review put so succinct with direct bench's and comedy forefront without fluff. i say this with an LTT review the immediate recommended video. I think LTT are fantastic, but there are many reasons why ive been subbed for these channels for over a decade.

[@dantekiwi7926]

your reviews are the best, im hoping to see the next benchmark if the reflex thingy :333

[@patépété]

I'm so excited about this, and I don't mind if some may qualify it as "too hot." Oh, and there's a graphics card too.

[@karti9117]

I don't think people give Phillip enough credit for his voice and cadence, I could listen to this man for hours. If 4kliksphillip ever become a thing, it should be a podcast channel.

[@Glibbers]

Can we also talk about idle power draw? It's not just when it's used, even idle it apparently already uses 40 watts doing barely anything! How high is the power draw, for example, when watching KZbin? The majority of people probably don't game all the time.

[@pctechloonie]

Yeah there's clearly something wrong there. If you read all the new Max-Q functionality this card has it shouldn't do this, it should draw way less power than the 4090. I guess NVIDIA forced all the power saving tech off because it wasn't ready for primetime. Hoping for some postlaunch fine wine power draw optimizations.

[@TotalNigelFargothDeath]

Wait a minute, my 7700xt uses 40 wats at idle... am I cooked chat?

[@Glibbers]

@@TotalNigelFargothDeath Yes.

[@TotalNigelFargothDeath]

@ darn!

[@ExoCalibra]

async reprojection shows us there is still improvements in graphics technologies. Imagine polishing and developing every published paper about better and faster render techniques. There is surely a better future.

[@Dribbleondo]

Fluffykins seems to be stuck at a lower LOD than usual.

[@GerritTime]

its official, the Kliksempire is turning into the Fluffykinsempire ALL HAIL FLUFFYKINS

[@junyaiwase]

Already one of the best reviews off 3:03 alone thank u

If in the future, models to predict and reconstruct frames become good and fast enough, it would theoretically be possible to generate and display a frame before the traditionally rasterized frame has finished rendering. This could be used to double the framerate while keeping the original latency, instead of increasing it espite having more frames, like DLSS and co does now.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

Do you actually play games?

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Could you rephrase your question? It makes it hard to see your intention and find out what you want to discuss. To answer your question. Yes. Why are you asking? Do you?

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

So you play games. What kind of games?

​@ All kind of games. Can you jump to the part you want to discuss? If any? Because asking for personal information in a context like this makes it feel like you just want to gather information to make a irrelevant and unfair argument against whatever you think I might have said, which is probably ripped out of context because of an missunderstanding. If that is not the case, would you please elaborate your intentions before asking for personal details? Also, answer my question please.

[@thedudely1]

Great review, Philip! Nuanced

[@espi742]

I'm extremely hyped to see your analysis of the new transformer DLSS model against the old CNN one.

[@cURLybOi]

i think you might be forgetting VR when considering the use case of this card. having seen some of the newer headsets, they have significantly higher resolution displays now and even basic raster rendering for two different 4K eyes might be challenging

[@wymanbartlett4648]

thanks for a thoughtful and nuanced exploration of the new hardware/software.

[@buriedbones-nh9xr]

I asked for longer video, i got a longer video Thank you Philip

[@herbertpocket8855]

way to come out swinging in the new year!

[@Forcy1989]

This is gives me Deja Vu. Back in 2003 there was another GeForce 5900 card that fried PSUs, it was very power hungry for it's day. The GeForce FX 5900. It required a molex connector and it had 60 wats TDP. At the time almost all PSUs were 300 wats rated, but we didn't had the 80+ standard and in reality they were mote like 150 wats.

[@tony3760758956]

"you don't need it, you don't need that either it's ridiculous" is the best argument I've heard to make me want one. I am at least saved by the fact I can't afford one though!

[@iliyalb]

Good fellow, I must say that's a cracking review, old chap. It's an exquisite critique, if I do say so myself. The depth and breadth of analysis is simply spiffing, a truly thorough and ripping assessment, if you will. One couldn't ask for a more jolly good review, indeed.

[@EthicalAllele]

That racing gameplay footage was really funny

[@l1nkenmus]

Wonderful video as always philip, but as a suggestion, please add exact numbers on top of each bar in your graphs. Your way shows "eyeball" difference well, but it's hard to read if I want to know the exact numbers.

[@TheRacePig]

You really deserve some compliments for your reviews in my opinion, I wouldn't listen to anyone saying you're a "nobody" or worry about what other tech reviewers might say. As much as I love the hardcore data driven stuff of outlets like Gamers Nexus, I find your reviews just as valuable because you provide more of a philosophical perspective on what the hardware actually MEANS to use in practice, rather than obsessing over say, like for like scenarios and stuff, which are useful don't get me wrong but not the only thing that matters. That and you test weird scenarios that you might never actually play games at just out of curiosity, which is pretty much entirely absent from what other reviewers do but I find myself doing the same sort of thing with new hardware. I just get curious about what it can do even if I'm not going to use it like that. Curiosity for the new when it comes to tech can provide some really valuable insight. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@therealwetwizard]

Good vid I dont like any upscaling or TAA, however the new frame gen and reflex features look very interesting I think out of other "tech reviewers" you have definitely done the best job of explaining it's future uses. 23:56 I also have a heavily relate to, benchmarking for the sake of benchmarking

[@MontySlython]

not liking upscaling is kind of crazy, currently dlss on quality mode is almost entirely without any artifacting and gets you a pretty decent performance uplift.

[@therealwetwizard]

@@MontySlython I just don't like the total Image blur using temporal techniques gives, in the lowered resolution is to noticeable for me.

[@MontySlython]

@therealwetwizard but generally speaking AI upscaling doesn't give much of a temporal blur at all, at least compared to a lot of UE5 games I've seen. TAA doesn't have to be on for some games with dlss on if I recall correctly

[@therealwetwizard]

@@MontySlython Most UE5 games require taa, so you're probably comparing taa with dlss. I realy like how native looks. Dlss is a temporal upscaler, you can't use both twice.

[@MontySlython]

@ I see, either way, the blur that comes from using DLSS while it can be annoying its not nearly as bad as the TAA most games are shipped with nowadays and if you dont have a gpu that can handle some games in native with graphics options at high, DLSS is an excellent way to meet graphical fidelity standards and still have a decent framerate, I am also one of those people thats very sensitive to blurring and artifacting so I understand your position though but more choices is always a good thing, especially for future proofing. Also what I meant initially was that DLSS while temporal simply isnt as bad as what TAA is currently doing to games and is generally completely optional unlike the TAA most games are being made with so comparing them is a little odd.

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

Yes those 8k numbers are impressive indeed and I like that someone has tested that, its a far better data point than I had considered in the context of this card, or others for that matter.

[@falloszxdd]

Would you be interested in making a video comparing DLSS 4 to Lossless Scaling? LS also has multi frame gen now and it works on any GPU in any game, I think it'd be interesting to compare nvidia's features to theirs. RTX 2-3000 didn't get frame-gen, and perhaps a 7$ software would be a neat upgrade without paying a ton!

[@TaelythTheCat]

What I like about frame gen, is that a lot of artifacts are visible when flicking the mouse around but the moment you plug in a controller and throw on something like vsync or gsync there is a lot less except for obvious things that still struggle around objects and the such. Also Lossless scaling on steam has a MFG setting that can go up to 20x before Nvidia even released the 5090 hahaha

[@k-nun]

Great video as always. It is cool to see the new dlss making super high resolutions playable and kind of gives me hope that they can plateau at this level and focus on power efficiency in the next generation, because while the idea of combining a space heater and PC is cool, maybe the carpet floors of my apartment might not take well to it.

[@gvastida]

Never change Mr Phillips

[@sumitupadhayay2270]

This guy knows how to keep people watching like the way he presents facts and just your cool nerdy neighbour explaining shit vibes kept me till the end. This is also a comprehensive review of the 5090 which gives me answers to the questions I didn’t even knew i have about the 5090’s price to performance( this actually made me believe the 5090 is a very powerful and efficient card in my mind). Great review.

[@jeffhyo1220]

about 30 minutes ago i decided to go to sleep. Now, i am going to sleep with more phillip wisdom in my noggin

[@trixualz219]

11:30 apparently the multi frame gen doesnt add much latency, maybe a few extra miliseconds i think its on gamernexus or optimums review

[@2kliksphilip]

Like I said, it comes with the added latency that standard FG already comes with. It is inherent for there to be some latency, given how it works- it would not be as low as if reflex were on and FG were off.

[@Yobleck]

17:22 this is a check-able setting. in the Nvidia control panel (on Linux, but it should be on Windows too) go to the PowerMizer tab and look for the "performance level". P5 is idle and P0 is maximum (sometimes it says 0-4 instead of 5-0). My rtx 4070 ti super idles at P5 ~30W and 30-40% gpu usage and P0 is ~290W 100% for Returnal epic settings 1440p. Like you said all video games normally run at P0 but CS2 could be so easy to run that it drops down to P1 or P2 which would throw off the percentage usage numbers.

[@stayawayfromthoseoranges]

11:34 Is this the new standard for commentary videos? Cuz Im here for it

[@casedistorted]

Of course he is in his robe.. 23:45 looking like the gaming Godfather with the cat on his lap 😅

[@Dinkoberton]

I like the presentation style couch video style

[@saymehname]

I like the perspective of the reviews you make. Most reviewers are more technical than realistic. This seems to ground this halo product

[@DOOM.Fi3nd]

It feels like you're the only reviewer who actually tries looking at their camera instead of so many others who stare at their teleprompter ending up looking cross-eyed.

[@TaelythTheCat]

I would like to formally Request a review of the MFG present in Lossless Scaling. It has a multiplier of how many frames are returned that can go up to 20x and is only 10$ as opposed to the 2000$ for the 5090. I am quite literally watching youtube and movies on netflix and the such at 240fps because it seemless integrates into ANY program or Game without injecting software.

[@jondoe6608]

Thanks for the video, I enjoy your honest takes. There is simply too much fake feeling hype and rage out there. Your point about MFG and lowend/portable hardware is really good, I wish something like my steamdeck could have MFG, it would be more impactful there then on a high end gpu in a desktop.

[@peetr1283]

This is definitely the most professional review of this card