Figured out a really cheesy way to get a tier 5 - CA Pls dont fix / battlesey #warhammer3 #warhammer #totalwar Set up of cheese: 0:00 The cheese starts 2:42
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@mikurusagawa6897Ай бұрын
I love the fact that game gave you Heroic Victory in Grunburg, but the moment you've added the mage into the army it gave you Pyrric Victory instead
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
It factors your losses. An added wizard that lost 2/3rds of its health made the win less "heroic". Its dumb byt you can sorta figure out why it works the way it does
@NotAHologramАй бұрын
I'm pretty sure heroic victory means your army has way less value than the enemy but still wins. The value added by the wizard is enough to tip it into pyrrhic
@jakubs.5966Ай бұрын
Since they changed how 'victories' work, it's just flavour. I constantly get 'close victory', losing 0 units, smashing the siege with my flying lords and wizards, because I used half of all my ammo. Makes no sense at all, but that's how maths of 'balance of power' works behind the scenes - so that's how it is calculated.
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
@jakubs.5966 I mean it does make sense to an extent. Why on earth should balance of power be equal if I have 19 melee units with better stats be the same value as 19 of your ranged units that have little to no ammo left?
@Zettern96Ай бұрын
@@jakubs.5966 You get a close victory if you should have gotten a heroic victory, but your army is too strong compared to the enemy.
@UngaMyBunga417Ай бұрын
Gelt literally turned into Julis Caesar here! Won a great campaign in a foreign land, checked Had a triumphant parade back in the capital, checked Performed a Coup d'état, checked Get stabbed thrity something times... check?
@stolos2418Ай бұрын
If Mannfred ever shoes up in the Empire again, sure.
@UngaMyBunga417Ай бұрын
@@stolos2418 HA! Damn how did I miss this opportunity for a Mannlet von Carstein backstab joke! :
@vallar5720 күн бұрын
@@UngaMyBunga417 You subconsiously expunged all memories of the so-called "end times"
@UngaMyBunga41720 күн бұрын
@@vallar57 Might as well be, yeah xD Wouldn't want that in my memory bank for sure
@nicky640Ай бұрын
Ways to improve this: - more lords that actually have been recruiting before homecoming - sack more in Cathay - sack last settlement in Cathay (and take with single lord) to have movement in the turn you arrive. - because of a second decent lord you might get a second province also within those ten turns. Also... Gelt suddenly likes jungle climate. Completely unrelated.
@draconomegaАй бұрын
He does?! 👀 Those cheeky bois at CA are teasing us man!
@draconomegaАй бұрын
And now that I think about it. They said that they were reserving the elite infantry unit spot on Cathay for the Monkey King, and seing how he is a key player in the defences against Kuresh and Ind invasions he might come with them! might even be a FLC!
@nicky640Ай бұрын
Could be the next expansion! Now that GW alienated its 40k crowd, they can focus on us 😂
@hannayapelekai1628Ай бұрын
@@nicky640 "alienated its 40k crowd" lmao, is it about the female custodians?
@draconomegaАй бұрын
@@hannayapelekai1628 Yeah... Kinda of weird seeing both 40k AoS suddenly be the ones on the other end of the stick doesn't it?
@Warstaff_NPRАй бұрын
Gelt learn how to transmute nothing into humans, cathay expedition seems to have ended quite well
@skavenslave4570Ай бұрын
I don't know man, feels wrong to attack Franz. I'll definitely go for Vampire, Drycha, or Chaos
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
you're missing something very important. MARIENBURG. it's close by and you can easily get it to tier 5 thanks to this and you'll have a great fully built port and are in a prime location to assist middenland and Nordland as well as repel norscan threats if needed. this will allow franz ai to focus on the east and deal with the vampires
@simonnachreiner838022 күн бұрын
@zacharyjackson1829 marienburg in the lore is also formally independent from the empire. There's actually treaties stating that the land is formally recognized as rebel holdings of nordland. Gelt returning from Cathay with Richie's before seizing the richest port in the old world is VERY in character for the master of metal.
@77LUCKYNUMBER7710 күн бұрын
@@zacharyjackson1829 Blessings of the Empire upon you!
@THEKratosirvingАй бұрын
I do get the feeling that this will be fixed to be only 'once per settlement' by the time the rest of us get access to this on release, but a fun find for sure. :D
@eviem5658Ай бұрын
Going to have to negotiate mutual benefits just for My Alchemical Romance I think
@dreamaboutcoffee4967Ай бұрын
Auto resolve is funny thing. Was auto resolving a battle in ogre campaign. Close victory. Feeding some meat to my boys should improve the odds right? (More charge,speed and unit mass.) When i added 1-2 meat the result hasnt changed. If i give them 3-4 it dropped to pyrrhic victory........ At 5 it went back to close again. I spend a whole minute staring at my screen, trying to find any semblance of logic to this. Think i heard Tzeench laughing in the background.
@JenoSnetremАй бұрын
You should compare the actual result of said auto resolve (how much damage you took, units killed and the same for the enemy) - instead of the "close / pyrrhic" descriptor. It's not always the best indicator.
@dreamaboutcoffee4967Ай бұрын
@@JenoSnetrem Good point. Couldnt find the old save to check sadly. The autoresolve overall is woking mostly okay. But it feels to me, that the background system that calculates battle results randomly decides to go against logic. Its one of those many little things that makes the game annoying to deal with. Especially in late game. Rogue army attacked my unwalled, imperial minor tier 2 settlement. Fullstack of goblins, archers, spider riders and 2 bastilladons. The game calculated close victory for me. And then there are battles which i can win no problem with minimal casualties, but if i went with auto resolve, it wipes some of my units. Even when it gives me decisive victory. Just why.....
@MrParaduxАй бұрын
Would it be cheaper to build up the second army as much as possible? More units should reduce the cost of colonization and you have -100% upkeep during that period anyway.
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
i have over 1600 hours in warhammer and my dumb self just connected the dots on the fact that army size and cost for colonization is linked
@hhhhakhaАй бұрын
You kept your word, thx! =)
@Someguy4321Ай бұрын
Very powerful. Does loses the +Potency building, tho, which is very powerful.
@Pyromaniac7777724 күн бұрын
Looks fun tbh, can’t wait to try it
@ZyryZ0920 күн бұрын
Tri-Um-Fant awesome cheese, can't wait to try it!
@jackharbor334716 күн бұрын
It still works?
@ZyryZ0916 күн бұрын
@@jackharbor3347 Yes it does
@Mile2357Ай бұрын
Do you know if any of the new building have ability to increase lord recruitment rank? I see that they removed Imperial Academy, which was great to boost levels in the later stages of the game
@ascendedbro1828Ай бұрын
Each faction has one so there should be
@Mile235729 күн бұрын
@@ascendedbro1828 there isn’t one, I just tested it. You can only increase it via technology and landmarks
@sapatanque588121 күн бұрын
The imperial palace in altdorf at lvl 5 as far as I know. +2 lord recruit rank . Didn't know imperial accent was removed I need to check
@BarneyTheDinosaur99Ай бұрын
I never knew that i need smiling gelt at the thumbnail in my life
@dzengrinderАй бұрын
Do you need a beta code to access that right now? Or is this in game already?
@nicky640Ай бұрын
It's only for selected partners, so far. We have to wait until the 30th for Gelt's cheese, hunting Tamurkan for his defeat trait and enacting the age of reckoning.
@KosPepeHands19 күн бұрын
So if there's a full stack in altdorf when I come back am I just fucked and I should restart and hope for better rng?
@Battleseyttv19 күн бұрын
Either take out Boris's settlements or aye I'd suggest starting again up to you bud. Weirdly in all of my play tests he didn't sit in altdorf once.
@JizzMasterTheZerothАй бұрын
Gelt starts in Cathay now?? Bollocks!
@HuskyTheAirBreatherАй бұрын
I'm thinking if playing let's say as Franz, the AI gelt comes back to empire or stays in Cathay?
@Laucron12 күн бұрын
Pretty sure he stays
@seniorslaphead8336Ай бұрын
Last time I smelled cheese this bad I didn't have to throw it out... it just crawled out of the fridge and left of its own accord. 👍
@sapatanque588121 күн бұрын
Still works! May 2024
@James-wp2yj28 күн бұрын
I think this shouldn't even be patched since it's like 1 time use
@necrometicsonofthelionАй бұрын
Triumphant homecoming should have beend a confed with Franz and some boni. Having to fight another elector count in 10 turns and take their territory doesnt work from a roleplay perspective. Triumphant homecoming. Slaughter of a whoke county xD
@cossack9991Ай бұрын
Game is called total war not total diplomacy.
@ThaLoserАй бұрын
eh I don't mind, Imma enjoy throwing everything at marienburg without leaving anything vulnerable
@jbboland7498Ай бұрын
The plural of bonus is not boni. This is almost as bad as that person who was talking about chorf blunderbi
@Rowant-sh7vmАй бұрын
i mean i think the idea is that you fight festus and begin in a razed empire province
@thelonecookie3592Ай бұрын
@@cossack9991 So you don't use trade agreements, confederations, alliances, and non-aggression pacts, then? You surely just attack, and do nothing else? Muppet.
@evoknzАй бұрын
Isnt balthasar gelt starting in the empire area anymore ? I don't get it
@cathulionetharn5139Ай бұрын
nope, he starts in cathay now academic exchange
@sebastianstru444828 күн бұрын
Im so happy to start in cathay, why on earth should I go back to fcking Altdorf xD I didnt even knew this is possible and I will never do that shit.
@TheWujuStyleАй бұрын
I'm gonna try this with Marienburg I think
@andacesgel9462Ай бұрын
attacking Altdorf was heresy
@northernleigonare25 күн бұрын
Recruits a lord Disiplined "Dosent matter which lord" Cri
@hyprxninja1094Ай бұрын
if you had a few noble lords saved, the construction would be done much quicker allowing you to do this before turn 17 no?
@alistairbolden6340Ай бұрын
You can infact do it with Marienburg and Middenheim at the same time if your willing to go into negative gold for a while. You need 4 lords to really manage to get 2 different provinces to 5 but its very possible. You will be at like -2000 gold per turn by that can maintain that loss for the 10 turns that you need to.
@Keln02Ай бұрын
Giving straight up pop points in opposition to growth is incredibly broken.
@MadManchouАй бұрын
It's broken if you want to cheese it. For any normal person who doesn't care for breaking the game on purpose, it is quite fine.
@xanman2003Ай бұрын
@@MadManchou literally. For a lot of these "game breaking updates" you have to do things in such a specific and silly manner that you're only gonna get there if you specifically aim for it. This means that the only people that encoiunter it are people already cheesing
@Keln02Ай бұрын
@@MadManchou Look at Papa Karl's +2pop decree. Doesn't cost much, can bump you from 3 to 5 instantly. And that's an intended mechanic (unlike the cheese above)
@nielsa1747Ай бұрын
Gotta try it with marienburg
@G26_10Ай бұрын
Probably a little harder with them since they are more spread out
@dylanvh946519 күн бұрын
How does one find this, im amazed once again :P
@Battleseyttv19 күн бұрын
My brain works in a weird way sometimes!
@XtecHubbleАй бұрын
Dear cheese god
@Grimmnight16Ай бұрын
Add that word to most over used list 2024. “Broken”
@p1553d0fАй бұрын
Zhao Ming will remember this…
@pascaldifolco4611Ай бұрын
That's Imperial Cheese !!
@adrienwaradАй бұрын
do the blazing sun still need talabeim landmark ?
@olafthemoose9413Ай бұрын
No, they just get big buffs from it
@reithough28 күн бұрын
You dont have to get a gold mage to transmute, gelt suffice for this.
@caleblang8026Ай бұрын
Queue the Fortunate Son, its Gelt time
@samscopeproductionzАй бұрын
They sent Gelt to Vietnam
@Rogue_TigerАй бұрын
Have you heard of the skaven?
@sinfinity383Ай бұрын
I like cheese
@andysims24Ай бұрын
Oh that is glorious!!!😂
@kapixniecapix3869Ай бұрын
Just wander if you can get landmark from cathay and come back to empire by occupying your starting settlement that you abbandon before you leave. You are going to give back all cathay settlements to zhao BUT maybe you can keep some settlements taken from ghorst... CA please do not patch that.
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
this wont work. yes you can abandon before you give zhao your lands but ALL of your armies teleport back to the empire with you. unless you're just hoping nobody colonizes the settlement before you take the 12-15 turn journey back with a single lord to take it which is unlikely going to work
@kapixniecapix3869Ай бұрын
@@zacharyjackson1829 I wanted to take settlement outside of cathay and tought zhao will not take it back. Then recriut lord next turn and colonize settlement with landmark. I dont know it will work, it depends on how this mechanic was programmed.
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
@kapixniecapix3869 that could work but it would require you to declare war on someone in the area and they won't accept peace and you'd have to make sure that settlement is well garrisoned. The coding could actually be a bit of a lie and it will just assume ALL the territories you've captured so far is in Cathay and give all of them to Zhao but who knows til we see for ourselves
@CryoCareАй бұрын
Conolise
@cmasonwАй бұрын
She was great in Blood Diamond!
@Kolonite_Ай бұрын
I don't see this making it to release
@yeetusdeletus10823 күн бұрын
It did
@wiltednebula8841Ай бұрын
Well this will now get patched
@jakubs.5966Ай бұрын
It won't happen too soon. Unless Legend will make a video about it ^^
@nicky640Ай бұрын
Yeah we'll get to play with it for some months most likely
@nicky640Ай бұрын
Just like you can still do lord steal from other races. If the borrowed army dies from attrition, with the lord and last units dying at the same time... then you actually get that lord
@wiltednebula8841Ай бұрын
Here's hoping. Most likely they will remove the growth point when colonizing.
@zacharyjackson1829Ай бұрын
@@jakubs.5966 they dont watch Legend's videos or look at reports from him. they literally have him blacklisted and a folder of his suggestions that might as well just be named "trash" at this point
@DigitwardАй бұрын
Gelt broken? Just take a glance in Malakais direction
@Luukebaas25 күн бұрын
Are you aware that you're saying conolise instead of colonise?
@KevalaniumАй бұрын
1. Enjoy the game 2. Dont mid max lol
@andygreen7314Ай бұрын
Appreciate the video but personally I hate playing cheese.
@CptOriginalАй бұрын
Dont do this. Just dont fking do this.
@humantwist-offcap9514Ай бұрын
100% going to get patched lol but this is hilarious
@xlifeisstrangexАй бұрын
Ah I see, the plenty of balanced new features as usual. Gotta love CA haha
@carterbarnett4734Ай бұрын
I'm loving everything about the new Thrones of Decay DLC so far. It seems like they're really pulling off the gloves in allowing you to become OP, and I love it.
@PenguinWithInternetAccessАй бұрын
The game isn't balanced before thrones anyway and it probably never will be, I'd rather they make fun mechanics that can be used in a way of breaking the game, if you want challenge you can use mods or extra rules
@tomsamcon201826 күн бұрын
Terrishit guide
@gabbagandalf993719 күн бұрын
lol omg wtf :D
@TheArakan94Ай бұрын
If you're going to use something like this, why not just use the console mod and cheat yourself the population? It's effectively the same except it's more immersive and lore-friendly (let's say Gelt brings bunch of people with him from Cathay)..
@shogunarki1139Ай бұрын
a mod can potentially crash your game while playing normally reduce that risk and a mod will tempt you to do even more cheating
@sapatanque588122 күн бұрын
The devs could made the bonus a growth bonus. Or possibility to confederate. But This is playing the game EXACTLY as the devs intended. A perfectly balanced game. *sips Yorkshire tea