Hochland Very Long Rifles

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

Regular brain : use artillery's range to take out ranged infantry Galaxy brain : use ranged infantry to take out artillery

[@phantomthunder203]

Exactly

[@Kalidoscope1230]

Clearly, the wood elves were onto something.

[@kjmunson1]

"What is the range on this gun?" "Yes."

[@jerryyberryy]

Legend just leaked 40k total war gameplay, this man cannot be stopped.

[@dmitriyk.2890]

typical Tau or eldari tactics )

[@pablonunalvares5391]

@@dmitriyk.2890 Vindicare Assassin doomstack

[@hrabtamas]

Blackguard chapter FTW

[@mihaokorn3682]

Actual gameplay or just pictures?

[@MoaRider]

@@mihaokorn3682 It was a joke, my man. He was saying that this video was a 40k Total War leak. Because the long rifles have scifi range.

[@BlacK40k]

Love how he named some of his Engineers after famous WW2 Snipers

[@phantomthunder203]

Wasn't just from WW2 but yeah XD

[@birdofgrey6542]

2 from WW2, 3 if you count the winter war. 1 from Iraq, 1 from WW1 and 1 from vietnam

[@ChaenD3rpCompany]

Name of the engineer at 13:10 - "Simo Hayha the White Death". Perfection

[@Manslayer-eo1nh]

The trees are speaking Finnish

[@Pwnarbullen]

Another was called Chris Kyle

[@Manslayer-eo1nh]

@@Pwnarbullen based

[@EmilWestrum]

Simo Häyhä.

[@phantomthunder203]

he got that scary range man XD

[@Smooth836]

sniping's a good job mate, Lot of work, outta doors, i guaranty you wont go hungry

[@Smooth836]

I got no idea how to write garanty

[@harrishaid7528]

Fixtf2

[@TheErtagon15]

@@Smooth836You'll learn, I guarantee

[@cornecloete69]

You have no idea how to speak or type in english in general ​@Smooth836 I blame your parents

[@KrytoRift]

Wut?

[@inductivegrunt94]

Average TF2 2Fort server with all the snipers and engineers.

[@rebelfriend1818]

average TF2 server full of sniper bots

[@hugo3627]

And it gets countered by stalking eshin spies!

[@phantomthunder203]

@@hugo3627 the eshin units in that army didnt do much XD

[@gorxela8982]

Nuln said "It's leakin' time!" and leaked all over the place with their very long rifles.

[@TheMagicalPinata]

Every painter always spills their Nuln Oil

[@doggerthedog6744]

Leaky long rifles leaking bullets

[@comediccomrade5716]

I love how Wissenland VS Clan Skrye can just be a 40k battle with all the shit going on

[@EkL149]

I like how CA is decides to NERF the Wood Elves range perks meanwhile with the Empire they're just like "this is fine."

[@kapixniecapix3869]

They will nerf empire as well. First enought people need to buy dlc.

[@Weberkooks]

Yeah that was back when they thought multiplayer would become an E sport

[@joshwalton25]

​@@Weberkooks😂 did they really? I only started playing about a year ago, but the idea of this ever becoming an e-sport is hilarious

[@micahreid5553]

@@joshwalton25 The multiplayer is really set up to try to be an e-sport with you building an army with very specific costs and limits on it then fight 1v1 on a map. Very boring IMO and hardly scratches the depth of the battles as I don't think there is anything with equipment or levels for heroes or anything like that

[@blargminton]

Before wood elves was the dwarves first 'rework' which removed their stacking range buffs too

[@phantomthunder203]

This was my army. While a lot of the siege battles I did with this were against ogres I was able to shoot over the walls of siege maps where there is some elevation near the edge of the map and shooting through gaps or going up on the walls when nothing of the enemy units could do it did take longer than a regular battle it still performed well enough. These guys have snipe so while trees will block shots they actually shoot very well from inside trees. Yeah I gave the heroes names of famous snipers XD the lord's is based on a story about Hochland going up against nurgle. He has defeat traits that I farmed by loading him into different Empire campaigns, ended up recruiting him at level 10 but worth it.

[@bonquiquihgii6836]

what were the other traits to boost up the range for the heroes? how to replicate

[@thomasnewton2935]

Awesome job!

[@largamau]

How do you increase the range mine is only 250

[@axyramariel7557]

Apparently, the empire has its own “secret laboratories” in which a human clone of Ikit-claw was bred. Now we are waiting for a legendary lord who can use the “ambush attack” mechanic.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

Ambush attack? Beastmen. Alith Anar. One of Tamurkhan chieftain gives this ability too.

[@axyramariel7557]

@@shmekelfreckles8157 I thought it was obvious that I was referring to the legendary lord for the Empire.

[@Zebo12345678]

Honestly Markus should have that stance. Guerilla empire man should be able to ambush attack.

[@TheIceman15783]

I think you can get ambush attack on empire now with one of the gelt magic college rites

[@thetowndrunk4617]

I think Gelt can use that stance on a cooldown due to his new school of magic actions.

[@mikavituhandle]

this kind of an army would be living nightmare on most of the desert maps

[@candlestyx8517]

Especially if its against a slow and heavily armored army; like dwarves or chaos warriors

[@hvymtal8566]

That moment when you thought you were playing Total War Warhammer but the other player is actually playing Empire

[@hvymtal8566]

I didn't even have this pun on my mind when I started writing. It literally wrote itself lol

[@черепахаестклубничку]

So that's an accurate depiction of: "you came to a shootout with the knife"

[@papazoulou9326]

Ikit indeed leaked the musk of fear

[@Fujikawa42]

I love how the engineer heroes always have enough scopes for every infantryman but somehow they never have one for themselves.

[@phantomthunder203]

well when you have everyone with scopes 3 feet long then theres barely enough for yourself I guess

[@Fatalitix3]

Warhammer 40k Imperial Guard gameplay leak

[@jurajsintaj6644]

Wouldn't it be the tau rather? Range is their entire schtick. If anything, the imperium of man are the skaven equivalent.

[@peregrinemiles7936]

Definetly tau, imp guard are probably closer to skaven-cheap troops guarding heavy artillery.

[@Fatalitix3]

@@jurajsintaj6644 My anti-Tau bias froce me to periodically forget about their existence, but yeah You're right

[@im_flat]

@@Fatalitix3why do people do this hating Tau doesn’t make you unique or funny

[@theovoldjopus4272]

@@im_flatbecause literally every other faction is more interesting?

[@jackdaw6795]

Ikit at 7:33 be like: Eager -> Confident -> Wavering -> Broken -> Dead Man has all the stages of battle grief in like 15 seconds

[@Zimmaster]

Range so far the projectiles dont render

[@KamikazeCommie501]

Lmao that expensive new GPU legend got seems to be just as effective at rendering this game as my gtx970

[@phantomthunder203]

​@@KamikazeCommie501 I thought he was still on a 1080

[@petrox859]

range so long they can see the leaks out of bounds

[@WhatsleftofTom]

Out Ikit-ing Ikit!

[@EpicRenegade777]

i like how youtube is offering to translate what you wrote into english

[@icaropinheiro9064]

This unstopable machine of a man! Leak, on, mate.

[@what3verfloatsurgoat391]

Compensating for something, Nuln?

[@lucifenxarthos625]

Let's just say, the magnifying scope on the rifle is there for a reason

[@revpembroke3082]

Weak allies

[@Meh-i6b]

It just might be an 8/10 doomstack but still annoyed that CA removed Wood Elves' range trait stacking for heroes but allows Empire to have range trait stacking for their heroes.

[@astartesfanboy5294]

Fair, but unlike wood elves the empire ranged troops won’t win in melee against whoever is chasing them lol

[@Meh-i6b]

​@@astartesfanboy5294 Gladeguard, Deepwood Scouts, and Waywatchers are terrible at melee. Your mistaking WE for HE and DE who have hybrid units in SoA/Shades respectively.

[@astartesfanboy5294]

@@Meh-i6b yeah, yeah I did. Oops

[@trowachess]

Leak of Lead today!

[@dagdamor1]

Gate JSDF Total War looks fantastic, ngl

[@gabrielmontenegro9476]

Riflin' a good job mate. Challengin' work. Outta doors.

[@quint3ssent1a]

> very terrain-dependent > can wreck shit at range but folds like paper when the enemy makes contact with your lines Yep, that's basically a skaven weapon team army... Deployed AGAINST skaven!

[@TheNubaHS]

God damnit, due to title and thumbnail I clicked this super fast thinking it was a Tariff video

[@666MIHI]

same XD

[@r30413]

Maybe the real longrifles are the friends we made on the way...

[@synka5922]

people: 40k total war is impossible, it could never be fu!!! reeee me:

[@florianstraub72]

Wissenland and Nuln, makes a doomstack out of every empire gunpowder unit.

[@Payythakidd]

Or if you got ambushed you’d get obliterated

[@xiii0722]

Yep, the classic ranged infantry/artillery problem

[@hooktraining3966]

the AI probably wont make use of the ambush and still put their troops on the other side of the map

[@botep5529]

As would most ordertide armies

[@Back_Goblin]

Steam Tank and heroes would carry then but u wont get ambushed in first place

[@phantomthunder203]

The AI had some opportunities to ambush it but they were so scared I had to besiege a settlement after I let them take it just to get that many armies in one place and not run away..

[@spocky7305]

Nuln Sniper Corps Engineer Lord: Corporal, do you see those units on the next map over? I don't want to.

[@angun703]

This doomstack makes me leak

[@Ratzo123ify]

Those are some strange looking Tosa Riflemen

[@clone4211]

It’s not a doomstack per say, but the army composition I’ve settled on in my Nuln campaign is as follows: 1 lord and 4 engineers with hochland scopes, 4 outriders with grenade launchers, 4 rocket batteries, 6 nuln Ironsides, and 1 hochland longrifle unit. It was only recently I’ve discovered that the outriders can aim their shots just like a mortar or archer unit during siege battles to fire over the walls.

[@GentlemanBystander]

"The couldn't hit-hit a hellpit abomination at this dist-" -Ikit Claw, probably

[@Sebatticus]

** "myself and other Cheesers" sounds like a very exclusive club 😅

[@aquelehiru3179]

I imagine them with comical large rifles

[@derigel7662]

Like the bounty hubter from Trigun

[@sinh7765]

if only maps in this game were good and big enough to actually utilize such range on gunpowder units because overwhelming majority of the maps are "competitive" tiny arenas which scream designed for pvp.

[@Raulikien]

WIth tree acne

[@kapixniecapix3869]

​@@RaulikienThat dots of trees are annoying. Is there a mod to fix that? Devs doesnt give a shit about it.

[@sinuosalice-1434]

I like gccm mod. It change most of the maps with custom ones. Imo they are way better compared to the Ca maps (also less 45% deployment zone)

[@kapixniecapix3869]

@@sinuosalice-1434 Yeah I heard about GCCM and unique maps for capitol citties. It was same author if I remember correctly. I am worried only about performance, my PC is on the edge in that game. I just look a simple eddition mod thad modify old maps by redesigning forrests. I gues that mod doesn't exist yet.

[@pablonunalvares5391]

Well, if you got this bunch on a gate, the enemies won't be able to even TRY assladders

[@nyechapple5332]

Hochland fully automatic Howitzer rifles reporting for duty.

[@thewrothestcampflipper]

legendofToPutThingsInPerspective here

[@HappyBacon777]

Well shit, this just scratched my itch to play Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai for the 20th time...

[@thomasmedveddubois4566]

That a Old world documentary at that point The Eagle prey on the Vermine

[@john_wack]

you should try doing like a doomstack vs doomstack video. could be fun to see the result of the best of the best

[@unmeclambda5837]

He usually mentions the armies that the current doomstack may struggle against, and for most of the 10/10 doomstacks, only another doomstack could hope to beat them but as he says, the AI never really builds doomstacks and never uses them correctly if they get one by chance

[@MrConanman]

“All I am surrounded by is fear and dead men”

[@Cris88G]

I just heard a skaven say “a shamfurr display” like he was in shogun 2.

[@windowstaskmanager5349]

Rifles so long they're always shooting in point-blank range

[@jajsem1109]

I could not find ONE engineer with this trait in my game. Not a single one. Not a hero, not a lord, no one.

[@caelestigladii]

I got two. And I’ve been trying pretty much every turn. Turn 117 now.

[@clone4211]

I’ve only had the trait spawn on heroes for me. In order to satisfy my urge for unstoppable armies across the world, I’ve had to resort to copying and pasting lords with the save character system.

[@sinuosalice-1434]

Are you recruit and disbanding the one with the trait that you don't want? Otherwise they get refreshed every 5 turn or something

[@jajsem1109]

@@sinuosalice-1434 I did everything I could. No luck... And I wanted that outrider snipers so much.. (Well, even "regular" outrider stack is broken in a very fun way, but still)

[@raysor9589]

Have u ever thought about making a repsoitory with all the save file for your community (as long the author is ok with that) i would love to check some of the disasters and doomstacks

[@JRedcorn]

Fine.. ill resub and redownload TWW3, literally stopped watching so id stop wanting to play it an yet here you are being Legend again.

[@Vandelberger]

When every unit is full of "The End" level snipers from Metal Dear Solid: Snake Eater.

[@FearMastaZ]

Makes me think of that saying "never mess with a man that can end your life from another Zip code"

[@candlestyx8517]

Damn, this is giving me the urge to play the Empire, which i rarely do.

[@nizofox8881]

i really hope this won't get "fixed"

[@maxpower3990]

It will. The Wood Elves used to be able to do this with their own trait. That got nerfed from affecting the whole army and stacking to just affecting the hero. And you could get a range increase trait on a hero with no range attack. Like getting the Determined trait on a Slayer.

[@ilari90]

@@maxpower3990 I think they have embraced more of the fun side of stacking traits with these patches, and there's a lot of these kinds of overpowered stuff already, so I don't believe they'll do that. Maybe at WH 2 times, or did this WE patch come at at wh3 era?

[@h4xorzist]

I really hope they simply allow all traits to stack for 3-5x times. That will make it fun again if they absolutely must.

[@theStamax]

Unless microed to an unachievable degree high difficulty does make a pretty significant difference by virtue of leadership alone. Because unis route a lot later, fire at will will end up shooting into nearly dead units, meaning healthier units behind will get extra movement in before being peppered.

[@Someguy4321]

Also works to this or that degree with pretty much any ranged unit in empire's roster. Skirmish cav, hunters, whatever. Talon of Kurnous was a busted trait, and so is this.

[@guffi00]

The closer target to unit's max range the lower change to hit it, so additional range would put a unit at, say 300 range to a relative closer position and thus better chance to hit.

[@LordNerfherder]

Forest battles, poor elevation maps etc makes this doomstack 5/10 tops. Fantastic on good maps 10/10.

[@0786RICARDO]

It doesn't help how confused the AI is at this stage

[@shugunoth4300]

There is a mod on the Steam workshop that adds the Hochland Scopes trait to the Skaven and a few other factions, in case anyone wanted to mess around with that. (More "Scopes" Trait)

[@void-creature]

Really good, but if Vietnam has taught us anything, I wouldn't use it against the wood elves

[@person4436]

They have like ballistic computers built into their heads to shoot that far

[@eternalwind08]

That was hilarious to watch. Makes me imagine that these guys are packing something like Interventions or Barretts rather than their normal rifles. hahaha

[@nogsan195]

That's not sniping, that's small arms artillery!

[@mikurusagawa6897]

When I played my first campaign as Espeth I accidentally recruited full gunline of Long Rifles instead of Ironsides, let's just say I did not regret that

[@tomsonlarrson3318]

They gave jezzails to the empire

[@Kasigil0]

its the hochlong looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong rifle

[@arthurgranja6795]

bruh, the "another leak" gag at intro. genius

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

Somebody help me out here. This is the second time Legend has mentioned dwarf cannons getting the "Dig In!" ability, but I have no idea how he does that. The only "Dig In!" ability for the Dwarves that I'm aware of is the ability for organ guns that you can get fron Malakai's adventures. Is there a tech I'm missing or something?

[@sleepy68]

This can be a really powerful reinforcement army as well. They don't really need to run for too long to get in range as they can shoot halfway across the map

[@l.m.srensen4559]

I guess this would shred even the Thunderbarge stack, as long as terrain s favorable. (Easier to hit barges as they’re in the air, so less obstructions). Don’t know why you’d attack the the Stunties though except if you’re trying to get world domination…

[@MagnificentXXBastard]

No way can you kill enough thunderbarges with 70% missile resistance and fast regen before they get on top of you. This is not even close to thunderbarge doomstack.

[@clone4211]

Nuln Ironsides have better dps than the longrifle unit, and with the same amount of heroes as depicted in the video 350m range is nothing to sneeze at.

[@luigibiava]

i liked that you quote Zerck with the "three acne" XD You two are my best option to follow the Warhammer total war Series

[@MrMatklug]

the rat saying "shame shame display", brings back memories

[@secret0fsecrets739]

WELCOME TO ESTALIA GENTLEMEN!

[@ТаникДэдлайт]

Have anyone noticed, that after the last patch, ai started just to stand still, while getting shot and charged? I've got the feeling that they used to go and fight, when attacked by missle. Even when they were defenders.

[@tmo_117]

Playing as the skaven is hard enough without all the long range rifles coming at you

[@forgottenbow]

I love having a few of these in my Empire armies, but this seems like overkill. Sure, when it functions its insane, but there are going to be too many scenarios where this doesn't feel great to use. I like a more well-rounded black powder army that has various tools for various situations. I only play Empire black powder armies these days and this looks hella frustrating to play with. @Legend, these actually are quite useful when attacking cities. Once you breach the walls and can start an entry point (more easily done with covering artillery fire or leading tanks) throwing a few of these on the walls can help lock down your position and give you a secured location from which to take locations throughout the city by providing covering fire to keep the defenders pushed back. I will usually follow up with more standard rifles to lock down streets and push further and further in until the city is taken. I've done a TON of sieges with black powder-only armies and haven't lost in ages since leaning into this combined arms approach.

[@tenchimuyo69]

Always good to see some more FOTS gameplay! lol

[@h4xorzist]

So sad they removed that same staking from the Skaven, they should totally reintroduce most trait stacks or limit it to like 3-5 (you could literally include this knowledge in the tooltip).

[@kperson4560]

When your rounds accidently get replaced with bolter rounds

[@benlzicar7628]

Queen Bess has 450 base range which can easily be temp buffed to near 800 with a Gunnery Wight ability.

[@unmeclambda5837]

I wonder if a few Nuln Ironsides could be a nice addition to add a bit of failsafe for melee dangers, with their improved melee capabilities and pretty nice firepower, I'd say 3 of them could help a fair bit while not loosing that much damage output since they'll also benefit from the long scopes

[@lasikreiser561]

I think Little grom with 2 just technologies gets to 563m. But not sure if you can extend it further.

[@ChristopherBrown-bj4zl]

2:11 the unit yells "Hand gunners" while rocking a .50cal sniper rifle... I appreciate the misdirection

[@rexncaksz4506]

The range ... hot damn

[@joaogabrieldiniz3299]

That Daniel teleport stance ambush in his Malakai stream might have traumatized Legend 😂

[@The_Nei]

Could this take out a thunderbarge doomstack before it arrives?

[@xiii0722]

Yes, for sure. They have very high dmg. Even if the target has decent resistance

[@markus_gold]

Walled sieges are easy with any missile units, if you get read of towers, which can be handled with 1-2 artillery

[@SWtaervdesn]

I saw this video upload after seeing the thumbnail of "Motivations of a Leaker" and cracked up >w

[@Lockerus]

When you want to reach out and touch someone.

[@Cynndora]

i fear no army, but that hill.... it scares me.

[@bordo899]

This long-shootafack broke the game like dwarfs flying bottle

[@PeripheriAe]

How do you focus the camera like in 3:57? I've been playing these games since TWW1 and didnt know you could do that lmao

[@KamikazeCommie501]

I knew you could do it but I never learned how lol It's probably listed in the controls

[@Tomezilla514]

N to zoom like that. K to remove the UI. Edit: might as well add that you can press "insert" to follow a unit from its POV and using "insert" on some artillery pieces will actually allow you to manually aim and fire them yourself.

[@Srrrgp]

can you do the same with jezails?

[@nathanstruble2177]

Sadly no, only Empire can stack range buffs now. That I'm sure will be removed soon, because CA doesn't like fun

[@alistairperry811]

legend of control groups

[@AvengerAtIlipa]

Aw Ikit brought some jezzails. That's cute.

[@clockmonkey]

I know the emphasis is on effectiveness but there's a lot to be said for designing and crafting your own Doom Stack even if its not all that.