Gen 4 OU is Beyond help. I quit.

[@jimothygaming]

Gary Xavier Edward sends his regards.

[@Lexi_TG]

Gary Xavier Edward spits on the grave of anthony horrible and sends no regards to anyone below 85%.

[@moyai5317]

Suspects ladders are meant to be hard so new ppl dont get to vote.

[@DanBlabbers]

@@moyai5317 very few people get to even vote so it doesn't seem fair. currently under 30. jimothy had 57/13 win rate and the GXE was impossible.

[@Sadahiko312]

Gary Oak smells you later.

[@usernametaken017]

Looking fowards for the gen 8 video

[@Reggin_ald]

99% of gamblers quit before they meet the requirements to vote in machamps ban

[@lydiazap7243]

Sad but true!

[@cocohyo9754]

This is like gambling your life savings to win a new pair of underwear when what you really want is a new car (jirachi ban)

[@vanesslifeygo]

lol there is a PS user in Gen VI who nicknames their Pokemon something like this.

[@pantsumonster]

W

[@lrodshrek6086]

this is what happens when a man is deprived of Muk Monday for a whole week

[@wolas321]

Very funny that he joined this tier to get machamp banned and Jirachi broke his spirit instead.

[@inazuma-fulgur]

Comments on that video were just right lmao Para is up there as the most broken status, simply because it didn't get the sleep treatment.

[@yourdagan]

Wow if only this tier had DUGTRIO to solve the same exact problems as it does in The Good Tier (TM). But no, we can't have that, because poor Heatran exists now.

[@zander2758]

​@@yourdagan dugtrio sadly wouldn't help, part of the reason is because dugtrio was just used to bolster the strength of stall teams instead of helping keep the metagame in check, it was quite miserable during its prime in gen 4 ou.

[@calliopehu1924]

It's Giving Up Monday

[@griffingeving9792]

They’re calling it “Christmascif” at my dinner table this evening. I cannot escape it.

[@jimothygaming]

Many are doing it

[@wobbieadam]

I just finished a nice game against "Gen4cif" on ladder

[@niknak8412]

​@@jimothygaming many such cases

[@iamnotjcook]

Like proper Americans, my family says Chrismannitar

[@mb778_]

Merry Christmannocif

[@orangeaurora]

In the first video he was hit by Machamp with DynamicPunch. He was trapped by his confusion for 5 turns, hurting himself in confusion 5 times, by making 5 more Gen 4 ladder videos. I'm glad he has finally Snapped Out of confusion, and is Switching Out to a better metagame.

[@orangeaurora]

gen 8's mythical steel type has a flinch move but its slow enough to be ok. justice for melmetal edit: the dpp ou main discussion thread on the smogon forums forbids you from talking about banning iron head and/or jirachi. literally 1984

[@romablumen1080]

@@orangeaurora i honest to god forgot DIB can flinch

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

in the words of Earl5000, gen 4 players take to long to make a desicion

[@jimothygaming]

Earl understood that.

[@kingspheal363]

They hated him for his truth

[@LuichoX203]

the philosophy of earl5000 really tells us that we should stop wasting our limited time playing such an imbalanced format

[@jimothygaming]

That's damn true

[@CMSonYT]

I mean....virtually every gen is really unbalanced vs gen 3

[@tarunyadav3567]

@@CMSonYT no way 2 6 7 and 8 are as asscheeks as gen 4

[@cliiiiiq8787]

​@@CMSonYTno gen is as terrible as 4 , all they needed to do was snipe rachi but NOOOO get machamp guys , everytime you switch in to check rachi your either getting para'd , flinched , burned , hes healing to full , another mon is healing to full , could also run rocks , heavens above rachi needs to go

[@peng7376]

Today is the day that Jimothy lost his Cool.

[@triviszla1536]

Renaming the channel to just Jimothy

[@RATMOGS]

@@triviszla1536 jimothy heated

[@maskofthedragon]

Jimothy Tepid

[@Cigmacica]

Jimothy is a dark type now, he is Jimocif

[@NightSkyNyx]

Jimothy Lukewarm

[@TheDrinkingFood]

To me, this is cathartic. It's the perfect epilogue to a great series. That series may have been a tragedy, but great nonetheless. And it's satisfying to see the main character come out of the series changed, having developed and grown. Not for the better, but changed nonetheless, and that is in fact what life is. This has been a microcosm of the real struggle of learning what it means to grow.

[@josephtripp1696]

Gen 4 deserves to have Jellicent inflicted on it. Water Absorb. Cursed Body. Headbutt Immunity. Scald. It wouldn't fix the metagame, but that stupid pringles ghost is the only thing that I think inflicts the necessary level of vengeance on the tier.

[@chrisdrums1910]

I’ve never thought about this. Honestly might fix the tier

[@literallyanidiot2880]

Gen 4 OU (And jellicent) sounds like a fun tier

[@opo33333]

Gen 4 OU and jellicent when

[@CabbageMuncher13]

Iron Head resistance, Body Slam and Dynamic Punch immunity. The perfect Gen 4 mon.

[@stridertakahashi4120]

Growing up is not only realizing Lavos was right but that unfortunate REALLY wasnt enough to describe it

[@Jfrost9101]

And the crazy part is that he wasn't even deaing with Machamp!

[@bunjeraa]

maturing is realizing that ur opponent is less than anything they can conceive, while you carry on, brimming with joy distilled from detachment.

[@senny-]

Childhood is when you idolize Finchinator. Adulthood is when you idolize Lavos.

[@danielearley8826]

Give this man a lum berry

[@GnomeChompskiGeso]

it only took a couple weeks of actually playing that horrible format to invalidate its ranking as the second best competitive gen from your other video. This is a sane decision

[@Wayte13]

"You know what, fuck it. Ya'll deserve perfectly accurate Dyanmic Punch"

[@Rumielle]

That Lavos guy was onto somethin'

[@glitchedoom]

And yet we laughed at him, shunned him for proclaiming the truth.

[@OMalleyTheMaggot]

He was never WRONG, he just presented correct information through seething rage

[@ryankeathley995]

@@OMalleyTheMaggot Exactly. Its pasta because we all know deep down he's right

[@Jvgl_2000]

Legit, the more I watch and play Pokémon, the more I'm like: "Hey, he's right! LOL", but he was like, THE one person ever to audibly speak about it that intensively.

[@GayPornEnthusiast]

Even the most deranged ancient Greek philsophers and storytellers couldn't have come up with a crueler concept than trying to climb a broken ladder to fix it from the top down, Smogon has exceeded expectations with this one, folks

[@cartoonhero8845]

And some say Jimothy’s sanity shrank three sizes that day

[@yvendous]

You have not triumphed over adversity, persevered, or reached the top of the mountain top and that's not what I thought would happen.

[@TheIndifferentGamer]

Step 5: Acceptance

[@glitchedoom]

Jimothy Cool has evolved into Jimothy Heated.

[@RichardBlaziken]

This appears, in fact, to be a regional form currently exclusive to Sinnoh. More research is required

[@xavierhorn9825]

Jimothy Melted

[@dbzloverxl]

Ah yes, I believe this is called a “skill issue.” As in, there is not a shred of skill in this competitive format.

[@c.j.richardson4314]

Unfortunate does not begin to describe Jim’s experience...

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

Wait, maybe Lavos is right all along

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

@@陳嘉宇-y4q Hes out there somewhere, brimming with joy distilled from detachment

[@Clooger-]

​@陳嘉宇-y4q He was. He was out of line with his reply, but he was absolutely on point about the randomness of the game. Pokemon is always gonna be like that though, there's no changing it.

[@empty5013]

randomness is a good and healthy part of the game, yes even 10% freeze chance, but this gen just has too much, every turn is a diceroll

[@triviszla1536]

@@empty5013randomness is not healthy

[@SlowRule]

I'm glad we found machamp to be the problem.

[@Crayvanitas]

I mean, it is a good part of it

[@formerlypie8781]

I mean, it is a good part of it

[@Snagavitch]

It’s a problem every game it’s in what are you on about 😂 one of the 13 guys who got reqs used that and machoke.

[@noahjohnson1364]

This sent me

[@triviszla1536]

Actually, it was the gxe requirement that was the problem

[@jake9107]

Oh how nice a Jimothy video on christmas eve i bet this will be relaxing 🖤

[@lektornese]

Evil Jim spawned from this Gen4 OU series

[@dVector13]

TimothyCold has arrived.

[@andre-8420]

I don't think Ive ever seen Jim this upset he's usually pretty stoic. This is surpricing

[@ArcRavine2605]

To be torn apart on Christmas Eve, to be so utterly removed from the human expirience to the point of becoming an empty husk made up of hatred and spite. Gen4 OU has taken everything from our friend, the bright light of his soul snuffed out by the growing Evil within, this is beggining of Jimothy's Uncool Arc.

[@adrianchavez4314]

Gen 4 OU players deserve Machamp in many ways. Refuse to do anything about Jirachi, sub 90 IQ Frosgl/Snow Cloak ban, the list goes on. Have a perfectly accurate Dynamic Punch 👊 from your local (100% natural btw) bodybuilder and make Muk have mercy on your soul.

[@manny0-10]

you were one new alt account away from greatness jim. if you had held out just a tiny bit longer you would have found the hidden joy of gen 4 OU.

[@empty5013]

99% of grinders quit one 40 match alt before they meet reqs

[@BladeRabbit]

Jimothy on the verge of tears talking about Clefable

[@DeckKnight]

If only there was a powerful meta Fighting type that had few reliable checks if it was SPAMming its Fighting move.

[@paulitics6931]

Can't believe Lavos has been vindicated

[@RATMOGS]

it's a Christmas miracle!

[@36thebluenote96]

This was some of your most enjoyable content to date because it was so honest and raw, not to say your content isn't genuine but there's a freedom in staring something in the face and coming to terms with how distorted it is in contrast to things we said and believed in the past. It was also very entertaining ! I always felt nostalgia and sentimentality got in the way of Smogon convos in regards to these OU gen topics. I don't think it's a coincidence that Gen 4 and Gen 3 were always held in high regard amongst players compared to things like Gen 8. It goes beyond what we perceive as being a good or bad format. And that's fine, it's a good thing to be connected to something you enjoy so much, something that brings so many good memories. But the consequence of this is that some formats were painted in better light than others, irrespective of how the formats are actually like. And the chunk of the playerbase let that warp their view on a lot of things. People talk about Gen 4 without playing it, people talk about Gen 6 without playing it, they form their thoughts based on the videos that they watched and the little they played. If the community were more willing to take a dive in these formats the same way you said you plan on doing, I feel like the perception on a lot of these OU formats would change drastically. Something like Gen 8 for example was bombarded while it was current, and that sentiment still lingers today. I always felt it was a reasonable, enjoyable, skillful format. A lot of the concepts that Gen introduced as far as how the game is played and how teams are built were controversial at the time (people wanted Boots banned for example), but now they are just concepts of singles, players just had to learn a new way to tackle the game. Most of those ideas are still present in Gen 9 and will continue to be present in future generations and nobody even thinks about it anymore. This newfound understanding of how Singles is played would lead a lot of people to view that format differently if they tried it again today. But also some players just don't care about any of this. Some players like fun. I like fun too, who doesn't, but to them "fun" is being uninteractive. They want Pokémon to be Solitaire. They like playing the game with no agency. It's more comfortable to have something to blame than it is to blame yourself when you lose, and they like winning without any effort. You probably saw a lot of comments that were byproducts of this way of thinking while making Gen 4 content. Bar the inherent RNG of the game, some of these OU formats won't bail you out of your mistakes. A lot of the time you gotta play around your opponent's team and what they are doing, and many get exposed when the game demands this from them. This too has negatively affected the perception on some of these formats, mainly the more recent ones since many players aren't as nostalgia-bound to them. It's a shame ! Things would be a lot different if everybody was more open-minded and honest, like you have been in this Gen 4 adventure. Hope you stick to your word, I would love to watch you tackle other OU formats with more intent.

[@Angel-L]

Imagine being a low elo gen 4 OU player and getting destroyed by Anthony Terrible, Video Victor and Funny Freddo all in an afternoon

[@robraf12]

How was Machamp ever an issue we barely saw any at all. Jirachi is the true devil get it now

[@empty5013]

apparently off camera he bullied jim a lot

[@triviszla1536]

Yeah off cam it had a major presence but on camera it was mysteriously absent

[@PorkpieJohnny]

get it twisted

[@HiddenDragon321]

This was easily the funniest saga ever

[@triviszla1536]

The rage clips were good as gold, as they say

[@doodlenaut]

literally peak Jimothy

[@orangeaurora]

after reading the forums heres a summary of why things are like this: it isnt the gen 4 councils fault apparently. they say that irrespective of their own feelings on jirachi, that they believe a suspect test for iron head/body slam on jirachi is warranted, but is "too complex", which, from the matches we've seen, i think theres an argument for implementing a complex ban here, but whoever it is higher than the council, those powers that be on the policy review forums, disagree. they also say that theres not enough support from high level gen 4 gamers for the simple option of a full jirachi ban, based on things like latias, clefable and machamp being too powerful without jirachi keeping them in check, and that it has good role compression outside of its problematic moves, or that itd shake things up in an older less-played gen too much. solutions to this are weird. seemingly the complex ban is out of the question (and discussing one in most popular gen 4 forum threads isnt allowed, since its "unproductive discussion", cool self-fulfilling prophecy there), so people need to advocate for a simple rachi ban- but as we've seen here gaining requirements to vote is very hard with the amount of hax jirachi enables. further, those with tournament results who earn reqs automatically will have an inherent amount of bias to vote for jirachi to stay in OU. the other solution is to not play gen 4 OU. maybe play some gen 4 UU or NU where rachi cant hurt you. maybe play some gen 4 ubers where you can obliterate rachi with fighting type farceus and groudon and ho-oh, or inflict your own cheesy statuses with darkrai. this accomplishes two things: one, you no longer have dpp jirachi in your life, which is enough of a plus on its own. but two is that a downturn in player numbers following Jimothys Jirachi Exposed Series Special could spark the powers that be in the policy review forums to act. tl;dr either fight to ban jirachi outright, or throw gen 4 OU to the birds

[@dee7352]

It would be a christmascif miracle if this series shakes things up enough for the jirachi criticism to be too apparent to ignore

[@JeffyLB]

You may have found the solution right here: Play Gen 4 Ubers instead

[@PumPK1inG]

Man Gen 4 UU was so fun when I played it, I wish more people were invested in it

[@alexanderthorstad7546]

Too complex? Banning two moves is too complex? That sounds like it is absolutely their fault. Total nonsense coming from these hacks.

[@Peter-wy1rg]

Would love to see you go through other OUs to get an opinion on them. I was so invested in the gen 4 climb despite how awful it was.

[@al77709]

Watching this series made me realize that maybe DPP players deserve Machamp. This metagame is a cesspit and the only way to improve it is to go full clown mode. Here's my proposal: Unban evasion and OHKO moves specifically for Gen 4 OU. Machamp lead against your Gliscor? Bring the Tyranocif Revolution to it. 100% accuracy Guillotine, baby.

[@rjante2236]

Just remember, they banned Froslass and not actual bullshit hax like Jirachi.

[@dVector13]

If only Jimothy had four arms and the ability No Guard. He could have scaled that mountain with perfect accuracy.

[@ShadowTasos]

Gen 4 OU has the most nostalgia-brained people of any of the metas I know. They effectively banned weather in Gen 5 OU for being overcentralizing, when weather was THE defining thing of gen 5. But bullshit Pokemon and strategies that overcentralize the meta with RNG nonsense in gen 4 have to stay because that's just how the meta is and we must preserve it!! As if people have warm fuzzy feelings over being paraflinched or losing the battle instantly because they lost the 50/50 guess on Gyarados' set. I honestly like that each Pokemon has 100 options with the physical / special split, I just don't think it's good for so many of the options to require a niche counter or be able to fuck your counters over with RNG. Machamp ban would be a good start but so many things have to go.

[@BellShinyHunts]

I must say that the misery i have seen this format cause over the last few days has truly been quite depressing. I hope whatever you do next shall be more fun. have a nice christmas Jim, and thanks for all the content

[@Nether2342]

Gen 4 could be so cool if it's stewardship was even slightly competent.

[@VerbalLearning]

Jim i think your next course of action is clear: in 2025 you must complete the OU Generational Gauntlet. 1 Week days worth of videos (so 5) of every generations OU format. 1-9. Then you redo your generational OU Tierlist video with your newfound knowledge.

[@Transcedant]

Unironically this would be a very good video that would perform well on the main channel.

[@lucienfelten8439]

I think what he's trying to say is that unfortunate doesn't begin to describe his experience.

[@LegendaryRQA]

Just allow Arena Trap Dugrio - Kills ‘rachi - Kills T-tar - Kills Heatran - Kills Bliss - Kills Clefable

[@AGuy565]

They hated him cause he told the truth

[@tecul1]

hm? dug does not kill clef afaik

[@cadetjones9205]

"Unfortunate" doesn't even begin to describe Jimothy's series, the Gen 4 OU meta game rewards blind luck and nothing else, he is beyond convinced at this point. After getting completely tooled by para-flinch strategies and confusion RNG, losing somehow felt worse than he had thought possible. His preparation was superior, his play was superior, but he lost, so he doesn't see any reason to continue engaging in an activity where what is within his control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not. He is done with Gen 4 OU and it won't get a fond farewell.

[@bayerbob5109]

I was going to post a lengthy counterargument but then I suddenly got flinched by Jirachi

[@kumquat4543]

Gen 3 beckons. Come home Jim, we have work to do.

[@tipsythreesixty]

jimothy has snapped out of confusion. with his vision obscured no longer, he is able to see the overused format of the fourth generation of pokémon for what it actually is. i'm afraid it's j'mover

[@viniciusbatista146]

Unfortunate doesn't begin to describe...

[@victorycry8849]

I feel this way about Gen 3 OU sometimes, so if the Gen 3 OU guy is complaining about this, i’m never touching Gen 4 OU.

[@nibblerdoo]

lmfaooo right jirachi is already annoying enough in Gen 3 OU haha pass on gen 4 ou

[@king_slimy8859]

Dug keeps so much stuff in Gen 3 from being unbearable. Total Blissey Death.

[@AGuy565]

@@king_slimy8859 Yes unban my ninja w/ arena trap from every tier

[@samusrules93]

He never figured it out. Every time he said 'sif', he lost 1% GXE. It was an anti-French scheme the whole time.

[@velyiaugilan5918]

With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed.

[@globalistgamer6418]

Ban Jirachi to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed meta you have created.

[@schzllnr]

It's a shame to hear how far Gen 4 OU has fallen after once being ranked the second best Pokemon Competitive Format. Tragic.

[@aldwych285]

Horse Council flinched and couldn't move!

[@shiruotakuno28]

This makes me wish Rapidash had Steadfast

[@netmonmatt]

You really can't get a sound opinion on something until you experience it yourself. Vibes really only get so far.

[@yosh9192]

It’s Truthnuke Tuesday

[@MegaUMU]

I think gen 4 used to be fun, but by the time you get back to this optimized meta game it became the opposite of what it used to be.

[@drluigi21]

I’m gonna be honest, it’s pretty funny watching you completely tilt, but only because you’re normally so chill. Hopefully you mesh with some of the other formats so you can leave this format behind and return to your chill ways

[@runeheal]

Jimothy is furious, beaten and bloodied, as he stumbles out of the hell that is the Gen 4 OU suspect ladder, and lets out a sigh of relief as he loads up a nice, calm relaxing match of ADV. He smiles as he feels the sand blowing through his hair. He closes his eyes, relishing in the feeling of pure joy as he gets up a layer. It is but a fleeting moment of joy in this world, as transient and ephemeral as a snowflake melting from the flames of an Aerodactyl.

[@maskofthedragon]

We are no longer gaming, folks!

[@triviszla1536]

Back to chess for a while

[@jhd303]

this is it folks. we have shed our humanity for gen 4 ou. big play here folks; this is huge

[@doodlenaut]

From the Vampires and Ghouls rant to the ‘Jirachi Store called’ thumbnail.. this has been your most prolific run yet. All while maintaining near daily uploads on main channel 🐐🐐

[@racg174]

jim quitting getting the suspect requirements is extremely relatable

[@triviszla1536]

85 gxe was just way too much

[@adnel3173]

We won't live to see a gen 4 Muk monday folks, this a true disaster.

[@JumbaJumby]

Yeah it's pretty insane the amount people have dogged on things like sleep in the generations since, and talk up the greatness of gen 4, when Jirachi Paraflinch is honestly one the least competitive least fun things the game has seen.

[@salvador6182]

im crying he actually crashed out

[@ENSIBDumb]

It's ok, JIm. This series has seemingly made you increasingly irritated, and I'd prefer to not see you stress yourself out like this. Happy to just see you play for fun. Always have been.

[@mayac69]

The difference between Gen 3 and 4 is that Gen 3 has been polished to a mirror shine, its the best its ever been. Gen 4 in contrast has rusted away but everyone has gotten used to smaking it until it works, ignorant of what they could have if they put in the work and fix it.

[@fahad468]

DPP is the worst OU for sure. DPP mains will be at your throat for your words, but you're entirely right. There's a reason why ADV eclipses all the other early gens in player numbers. It's simply bc the other tiers suck in comparison

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

gen 2 is so much fun but thats because i overcooked myself on gen 3 and now i cant win

[@MrPatrickbuit]

I agree that DPP is in a terrible state right now, but I think ADV is more popular mostly because of Jim himself lol.

[@tecul1]

gen 1 is too weird for most people, it's pretty good tho gen 2 is for sure way too slow paced for most people, when hyper offense mirrors takes 60 turns to win

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

@@tecul1 maybe in high levels of play but on ladder i consistently get 40-50 turn games which is only slightly longer than ADV

[@Clooger-]

ldiots that try and use player count as an argument lose me very quickly. Make an actual argument, and we can talk about it slug.

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

Never despair Jimothy, Muk Monday will always be around the corner. Remember, good times will always return

[@danielribeiro7975]

This monologue is like the feverish ramblings of a man after gazing upon Lovecraftian horror.

[@sam3oq980]

FWIW Jimothy I think you'd actually really enjoy gen 8. It's similar to gen 3 in that it's got a very balanced metagame in which basically every team style is viable. Without gimmicks like mega, Z-moves, or cheese moves like Hidden Power and Pursuit, no offensive threat is without checks and balances and you have to rely on skillful positioning to dent holes in the opponent's team. The tier also allows for a ton of creativity in terms of viable lower tier mons, making the building process interactive and fun. Some games do turn into a pivoting quagmire but otherwise the tier's amazing IMO.

[@xaropevic7918]

"No cheese moves like pursuit" - This propaganda was posted by the Dragapult gang

[@orangeaurora]

pursuits a LITTLE cheesy you gotta admit. i say this as obscure cheese strat enjoyer, i felt my soul become heavy when i heard acupressure got banned in BW, but pursuit is not Obscure cheese. its trapping with extra steps

[@azeria1]

"one can lose the forest for the trees". Even if machamp is banned one less rotten tree will not save gen 4 ou

[@kylerstrickler1750]

The prophet. When the world needed him most, earls 5000th alt provided the sacred text.

[@Lmjacks]

i respect your decision jimothy. i was very confused when you rated this gen so highly in your ranking video some time ago. best of luck recovering from this blight

[@sora4440]

Folks this is insane, I think we've officially broken our Dear friend Jimothy. Like this comment and subscribe to the channel or else Jimothy won't ever recover from this, thank you...

[@cookiemonster-ky9ru]

Jim have you considered using your hidden ability frisk to figure out your opponent’s items?

[@TheNikKon]

Jimothy slowly realizing competitive pokemon is just gambling on RNG outcomes with extra steps, and that Gen 3 just minimizes that more than all the other formats.

[@crazycoolkids00]

Spoken like a true gen 1 player

[@joaoartur19]

That's not true at all lmao. Gen 4 is the outlier, but in basically every other meta betting on hax is *not* a consistent strategy

[@empty5013]

factoring in rng is good play but that's about hedging bets and making good calcs for the path to victory that doesn't work in a format with a coin flip every second turn, you can't hedge on a 50/50

[@empty5013]

plus being flinchlocked is just not fun gameplay period, even if the skilled player always won it sucks

[@Nether2342]

Sometimes letting go is the real triumph, Mr.Cool

[@mondooowada3537]

Jimothy is going to the birds.

[@peculiar.pancake]

Jimothy birds.

[@Searqq]

I used to remember gen4 fondly but after your ladder sessions it looks like suffering

[@stevenfoley2712]

Looking forward to deep dives into other metagames! While frustrating, this was a very compelling Jimothy arc

[@Berto-76]

A follow-up video to the OU tier list, after trying each format again, would be the best video of all time.

[@steveo_80]

No fault to him, but Pokeaim had everyone hyped about DPP for years. But I agree, DPP sucks now and always sucked. Going from Adv to DDP at the time was awful.

[@tecul1]

think it was solely bc it's how his channel blew up

[@baconultimate6045]

A simple ban the ability serene grace and the move dynamic punch would make this meta rather fun I think.

[@splitsee2526]

that would mean jirachi would be banned, you sure thats ok?

[@empty5013]

in other gens we have banned mons for one garbage annoying set, jirachi can go. "ohh it helps centre the metagame" who cares, figure out the new meta, if it still sucks ban something else

[@baconultimate6045]

@@splitsee2526 that would be beautiful. I've played smaller tournaments without it and it's bliss.

[@liamrobert2460]

Was thrilled to see gen4 OU, I'm sorry it came at such a cost. May machamp and jirachi pay for their schemes, Iron Mugulis must surely be behind this attack on Jim's psyche

[@wilsonian6082]

I would simply switch clefable into the para 20 times and forfeit if I end up in a clef mirror

[@ceumadorgas9407]

I really would enjoy more series like this where you try the OU formats of all gens (but only when a suspect is happening, so you can check the more competitive level of the format)

[@me2121211]

0:15 You have my full support for this decision. I know you will be outstanding in them.

[@schmooder3]

The Jimothy OU Tour has begun, he will introduce muk to every region and town alike.

[@SkulEditzYT]

This is truly a Lavos moment of all time

[@mistergrool3941]

I would encourage everyone to check out the smogon machamp suspect thread, wherein the pro-ban side is currently throwing a temper tantrum because veteran players are making arguments against the ban and demanding a jirachi suspect

[@Vuosta]

We need more suspect tests in old gens to get more Jimothy cool old gen retrospectives. This is fantastic content.

[@VanRukh]

You either die playing gen3 OU. Or live long enough to play gen4 OU. And then you'll wish you were dead

[@kylerstrickler1750]

Merry Christmas Jim. I know it’s been a tough one but we appreciate the content.

[@frogtopia8624]

The torment of hell was unbearable. But I still respect your perseverance Mr. J. Cool! :)

[@uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh]

would it be accurate to say worst parts of gen 1, 5 and 7 ou cross over? hax + matchup fish + everything already might be vanilla over the top

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