Gen.G vs. China Situation Explained

[@Ryscu]

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[@wtf.is.this.new.alias.system]

as soon as i heard the words taiwan and china, i knew what was going on. The same situation happens all the time.

[@KhanhNguyen-dg9rl]

Yeah, 2 vtuber only show a glimpse of the word "Taiwan" in a analytics and the West Taiwan gone insane. Harass the 2 of them for 2 years straight, and even anybody who collaborate with them.

[@ruitakanashixD]

​@@KhanhNguyen-dg9rlah are you a fellow vtubers watcher too?

[@KhanhNguyen-dg9rl]

@@ruitakanashixD why yes indeed

[@ChoB1den]

Thats one of the reasons why i deeply dislike chinas government and the contrys world view.

[@ruitakanashixD]

@@KhanhNguyen-dg9rl lets go another fellow watcher. any favorite vtubers?

[@gabriell5164]

As soon as I heard Taiwan I knew exactly what this was gonna be about lol. The funniest thing about this to me is that if you ask anyone if Taiwan is a country, they'll probably say yes, but almost no countries recognise it as one

[@shadowllght]

Almost every country has some sort of diplomatic relations with Taiwan even though they aren't a country per se. It's basically just "We can't call you a country else we will miss out on the biggest market in the world so we can't call you one but we still lowkey recognize you as a country behind the scenes."

[@chihaotran1568]

@@shadowllght True this is correct lol Posting a marketing pic saying sensitive things like that are entirely GenG marketing team fault alredy lol

[@AshBlossomWorshiper]

Pretty much errybody treats them as one except just doesnt call them "a country" to avoid angering big daddy china

[@horizonblack8351]

@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_ Suree, tell that to all the men failed to marry because of the women's family bet for marriage is too high so they have to spend money for foreign women. And that's only the least problem i was mentioned about.

[@MatsYoo]

Nobody wants a war with china thats why

[@dangdanhtruongnguyen6208]

K thanks mate been searching for why anti-GenG sentiment has suddenly skyrocketed over here.

[@MrMango331]

Not "here". Only in the east.

[@calvax5534]

imagine this would have been a Blizzard game and a team had to take actions like this🙃

[@Neonradss]

I bet Blitzchung hasn't forgotten

[@boywundercoma6526]

Wdym, Blizzard literally quit china, they don't give a fk

[@invader2867]

The cancel culture was just waiting for a "moral" reason to do their thing. Since that guy "Challanged" the public with the phones in the diablo presentation everyone was after them. Think Riot had worse fk ups than Blizzard by the same or worse reason and barely get the attention from the public because they're not under the sights of a witch hunt.

[@ian77444]

@@boywundercoma6526 china let go of blizzard only to release a wow mobile cheap game a year later, not the same as blizzard deciding to leave

[@Anthony-vh6ef]

I don't get this comment at all, blizzard esports is a complete failure. League still has a heartbeat.

[@SilencePandaa]

Reminds me of when Tzuyu (TWICE Member) raised the Taiwanese flag to pay respects to HER HOMETOWN which flared up the anger of Chinese netizens and demanded her to apologise. She later uploaded a video of her apologising and you can tell that it's fucked up

[@hieunguyenang8663]

That poor media manager guy gonna have a bad weekend://

[@femboy-alex117]

what media manager? nothing happened in Tian- I mean in the GenG account

[@danielwutfisho]

Xi jinping coming for him

[@benistcreative]

I understand that they were basically forced to apologize without any other options but damn do I hate that. They're being forced to support a dictators crazy worldview just to keep their jobs.

[@minhocho5487]

Welcome to capitalism

[@haydenw.9809]

Welcome to modern day slavery. We are just getting started and our children will be the real victims if we let this shit slide

[@BlideTH]

Soooo just like with BLM in USA?

[@kennykim9811]

​@minhocho5487 I must have missed something. How is that capitalism?

[@minhocho5487]

@kennykim9811 The only single reason they did this was because of the Chinese league market. There is a reason why Blizzard and Riot suck China off because it is one of their biggest source of money. Same with Gen.G it was their sponsor even.

[@VariantGhoul]

It is incredibly based of these pro-players to visit Incheon for Volunteer work, but it sucks that all of this happened due to the 'controversial' Chinese governmental rule. I hope nothing severe happens to Gen.G, but I hope that people understand the position they were in when they made the post and why they had to redact it to keep their credibility.

[@Sal-do8mc]

Let me see if i get this right. People in KR are mad at GenG for deleting their post and following what china says about taiwan not being a country. And gen g had to do this because of marketing reasons. So my question is... Is everyone siding with Gen G's decision to delete their post because we all "understand" they had to do it cus of marketing? Or is everyone mad at Gen G for sucking china off. Basically, im wondering whats the general, public opinion on this

[@adamrozsa9923]

The ccp terrorist regime will stop at nothing to fuck over the people, dont let this make you forget about the concentration camps in Xinjiang

[@abouttime2569]

You clearly missed the point why GenG is hated by Koreans. It is not because they wrote an apology letter. It is because GenG said they support China's territorial integrity. That is going way beyond an ordinary apology letter.

[@mandy11254]

@@abouttime2569 Yup. It's because GenG is basically just submitting to a bully and abandoning their Taiwanese fans. Knew this was coming the moment Riot Games became Chinese asset.

[@abouttime2569]

@@mandy11254 What GenG said was not just abandoning Taiwan. It is abandoning all other countries that have territorial disputes with China. Including Korea. If I remember correctly, there are like 5 or 6 countries that are having territorial disputes with China.

[@MadCityVL]

Im glad to see people understanding the messed up situation that Gen.G were in instead of going straight to hateing to them.

[@abouttime2569]

You clearly missed the point why GenG is hated by Koreans. It is not because they wrote an apology letter. It is because GenG said they support China's territorial integrity. That is going way beyond an ordinary apology letter. It is justified hate.

[@shinydragon69]

This is something that was going to happen eventually once Riot got obtained by Tencent. Things like this are why people disliked the acquisition. This really isn't much the fault of GENG, as this was the only way out of situation. Otherwise, the entire organization is liable to getting Thanos snapped. IMO there is no one to blame apart from Riot for selling themselves to Tencent, fully knowing that something like this was likely to happen in the future. It's a shame that GENG were the ones that got caught in the crossfire of Riot's greedy decisions.

[@ollebrorsson5748]

they could have just not called chinese taipei a country

[@CunnyConnoisseur69]

@@ollebrorsson5748 except it basically is its own country

[@MrMango331]

This is 100% Riots fault. An American company selling out to fascist dictatorships never does anyone good.

[@danielwutfisho]

China... numba one... 😢

[@valmiro4164]

You do realize Riot has always been partly owned by China since League was first released, right? And that they could never have operated in China, their biggest playerbase by a huge margin, if they had never partnered with a Chinese company?

[@kellyl2226]

if i had a nickel for every time gen g/ a gen g affilited org got in trouble with china, i'd have 2 nickels. which isnt a lot, but its weird that it's happened twice, right? if you dont know what im talking about, gen g own(ed) an overwatch league team named the seoul dynasty. one of their players, saebyeolbe, talked on a twitch stream on how he wasn't allowed to say taiwan or hong kong aren't a part of china, which made the chinese teams so mad that they threatened to not play/scrim with them. and then blizzard told them nope you've gotta play.

[@nguyenduc4255]

I just feel bad for the players, they didn't do anything, but when they walk on stage, they're gonna get booed at

[@KenKaneki_Kibutsuji]

Winnie the pooh and his paper tiger army at it again.

[@NyangisKhan]

The famed 50 cent army.

[@cat-vv9xb]

Xinnie the Poo*

[@Guar-sama]

Hey, "Only u" is my perfect gym vibe. Keep up the good work!

[@callmeandoru2627]

GenG did absolutely nothing wrong here. The literally just want and meet and greet event for their fans

[@abouttime2569]

You missed the point why GenG is hated by Koreans. It is not because they wrote an apology letter. It is because GenG said they support China's territorial integrity. That is going way beyond an ordinary apology letter. Inform yourself before you blame others in the future.

[@brianjuice]

@@abouttime2569 Gen G is scared of being snapped out of existence by Tencent. They will say anything to keep their spot in LoL esports. But whoever is managing their social media team needs to get fired ASAP.

[@abouttime2569]

@@brianjuice Yea that is why a lot of Koreans would have understood if they just apologized in an ordinary manner. That usually gets you off the hook from Chinese fans to a degree. But GenG went out full on their knees and lick their boots.

[@riceycakezz]

Taiwan is a beautiful country, and I wish it never experience any 'forceful' unification.

[@kayosb25]

Taiwan isnt a country

[@Fasmoo]

Thank you Don't worry about it, China has been saying that they will take over Taiwan since I have memory, now I am almost university graduated, and they still didn't do anything lol

[@robertwide6592]

we could say the same about ukraine, and yet russia did something at some point@@Fasmoo

[@Klawzor]

@@Fasmoo They might. Russia invading Ukraine basically shows how utterly useless the UN is. They have nukes. If they inavde Taiwan, no one is going to war to save them.

[@BueorrFalhen]

its hellish in the summer though, humid af. You just start sweating the second you leave your house

[@Heightren]

"See you next time" while casually one-shotting an adc

[@FilKouvhs]

The previous video might be your best video yet, you really should be proud. Keep up the good work

[@geneseizeseize8623]

Ohh shit another john cena situation all over again

[@EarlHare]

This has happened to thousands of people. Most recent one I remember is Simu Liu who managed to get the movie that Disney made FOR the chinese market to be banned in china by referring to Taiwan as a country in an interview earlier in his career.

[@francesco8000]

I wish someone really important like Faker said "i can't wait to go on a holiday on the beautiful independent country of Taiwan". Tencent may own league (and all major companies in china are deeply connected with the CCP) but it's harder to punish major names without creating a bigger issue.

[@fearme4630]

A big part of faker success is that he is politically neutral, or at least he doesnt express his political beliefs. Not every celebrity has to take a stance

[@chihaotran1568]

Stop dreaming lol. Leave Faker alone. Don't drag him into this mess

[@Sky-rv3to]

Faker is literally brand-friendly and is part of the reason why he gets so much sponsors and ads

[@anhnguyenhoang210]

How to say you don't know anything about the man without saying so. Faker is one of the most politically neutral and scandal-free pro gamer in the world, not just League. He'll never touch this crap.

[@kennykim9811]

Hence why OP said "... I wish ..."

[@reybee9577]

does this correlate to valorant? 2024 masters shanghai global event was a library everytime gen g started winning

[@hana-rv6ru]

yes

[@Insanityltself]

Blitzchung: ''First time?''

[@corbis7765]

I don’t think ANYONE would support china in this situation

[@kayosb25]

china is one

[@mikyas392]

so which china? the the Republic of China or People's Republic of China? they are both china.

[@declaringpond2276]

​@@mikyas392Taiwan isn't china, imagine Texas split in a civil war and claimed to be America. Taiwan is a country, and the culture is similar to China, but it's not china

[@Archive-w5s]

@@declaringpond2276 yeah that's the thing, the US won't let texas split in a civil war. in fact that has already been tried and the US used violence to protect its sovereignty

[@mikyas392]

@@declaringpond2276 first just google Taiwan. 2nd it is not similar just "texas splitting" . it is akin to if joe Biden loses a civil war and go to Texas to hide.

[@mehmetalisahin2804]

Just wanted to let you know i'm enjoying your new track a lot, quite a good one!

[@nTu4Ka]

You are missing bigger picture - polarized world. USA were investing huge amounts of money and are highly dependent on Taiwan semiconductor factories. South Korea is USA friendly country. So it's just pure politics and global interests. USA wants to maintain control over Taiwan and are fueling informational war. China interested into having full control over Taiwan to increase its influence.

[@swe872]

fr, Idk why people think USA supports taiwan independencie as an "act of good faith" China is such a shitty country, as USA also is, both couldnt care shit about taiwan wellness, they are just interested in power

[@derspeedy5019]

i love Tencent (pls release my family)

[@AkumuDesu]

Thats why i dont support any LPL teams. Not the Team fault yes but no reason for me to give china a bigger market.

[@dieselgoinham]

Racist fk

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@dieselgoinham Not liking facism is racists nowadays...

[@QuantizedAxiom]

@@GameBreaker1055 i mean facism isn't communism but ok

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@QuantizedAxiom They are indeed exlusive things, but china happens to be both... Well, they claim to be communists, but russia also claims to be a democracy

[@AkumuDesu]

@@dieselgoinham better then supporting that regime

[@12mulesandy]

I guess there might be 5 lpl team in worlds for 2024

[@MastaMozed]

Thank you for putting a timestamp to skip the sponsor.

[@Over-mh3wr]

It only lasted like 20 seconds or something. I could understand you so badly wanting to skip it if it was like 2+ minutes long. But here by the time you even think to skip it's over already.

[@ziommis]

I feel sorry for them having to deal with this stupidity

[@thedaboink9202]

That's why selling to Tencent was such a shit idea

[@ModusGetachew]

Gen.G throwing as per usual.

[@minimeatball253]

We can all name ourselves TaiwanIsACountry and just have different #’s in the end lmao

[@Night_Hawk_475]

Honestly sad to see that even a korean team is bending the knee to china's politics :1 I wish GenG had the balls to stand by their original statement.

[@rhodesailant9728]

Almost all asian has some teritorial problem with mainland China. Even my country has problem with them over some teritorial area. Even internationally we has that sea area "right", but their military ship n even civilian boat always tresspassing too many times their military even almost have shot out with our patrol ship saying that we are the one tresspassing 😁, they kinda unstable imo

[@meow-meow-beans]

Nobody likes mainland china

[@HamsterPants522]

This is funny to me because the word "country" refers to an abstract concept. There is no actual observable thing that can be pointed to and called a country.

[@gpuwu]

a 4 minute video doesn't need a 30s sponsor

[@Chill_Phil_]

Reminds me of the Kiryu Coco incident

[@justv7536]

Let me guess, Taiwan? Edit: Taiwan.

[@Ypxfrd]

Imo Taiwan should sue them

[@Danny-zw7sw]

Lol calling Taiwan a country is defending them, China oppress their country.

[@bingusworshipper]

They can't, they aren't a real country XD

[@basic7593]

​@@bingusworshipper They are

[@KURTEDWARDAUNZO]

100+ social credit points

[@QuantizedAxiom]

@@basic7593 Dude I get why u think it is but by the literal definition according to the UN and the world, no Taiwan isn't. Don't just listen to the media and look at the facts.

[@starchysocks1820]

ryscu's song sounds better than what most artists put out, LETS GOOOO!

[@Mr_CyberCookie]

They do what they have to do to survive and keep playing. It's not like them supporting either side is gonna change anything except for not being able to play

[@chriswilliams3203]

In my opinion, as everyone is wondering what I think, Gen G may have had no choice in making their apology but maaaan what a political position to be in now, pissing off multiple countries 😂

[@abouttime2569]

You missed the point why GenG is hated by Koreans. It is not because they wrote an apology letter. It is because GenG said they support China's territorial integrity. That is going way beyond an ordinary apology letter.

[@karsonkammerzell6955]

"...in Taiwan..." Oh. I see where we're going here.

[@flam381]

it's happening again :)

[@ithadtobeaname7327]

Thank you for not looking the way when it gets political. While i understand that GenG mby doesnt want to piss off China (and kind of the owner of their game).... What an dumb idea is it to backpaddle like this? So either u support One China and deserve to be hated and hopefully disbanded along the way... Or you accept that mistake but stay on the...own? Korean side to have some fans in the back if Tencent takes action. I can't imagin that they would kick the team over this because that . GenG is a big player in one of the biggest leagues, thats not an Team from Russia that goes 0-24 and no one cared. If they ban teams for political reason who would want to invest into a game, that can ruin all your investment in a sec. Even if its short term, look at what happend to Blizz after Blitzchung.

[@strikerguitarist5555]

Imagine being so butthurt by someone saying an apple blossom is not an apple and then cancelling their event and making them apologize for saying that, and making them lose tons of profits for essentially misspeaking. That is so fucking pathetic. I know some people will misunderstand the apple blossom sentence was just an analogy for the situation. I just think it’s hilarious how stupid people in government positions can be sometimes. They could have left it alone and literally no one would have had a problem with it, maybe some Chinese players would point it out but who cares. But it’s China so they need to keep everything in a perfect single line.

[@danielwutfisho]

Nobody talk about tiananmen square 😂

[@lamapaloosa6121]

Based Nintendogs soundtrack in the background

[@justaverage7610]

Geng knew what they were doing. Honestly, they could have just stayed out of politics and not say anything.

[@chozer1]

Maybe korean league should kick gen g out then they can move to the country they love do much china

[@maxx_xero]

agree

[@DesperatePotato]

Between 2 swords because they wanted to make an event in Taiwan, GG. Korean fans mad but you can play. China mad you can't play.

[@ken-pm5ic]

Bro what are you even trying to say ?😅

[@Elias-ix7wf]

The amount of power China has is just scary.

[@Torchlava100]

Its more like how much we have allowed china to have power. And how much our current governmental affairs rather keep the current peaceful quota rather than breaking new grounds.

[@wedmunds]

Nothing compared to the amount of power the US has

[@twentysevenhateyou6993]

​@@Torchlava100 delusional

[@JD-cs4ee]

@@wedmunds when it comes to military US has more ofc, but economic power China may be stronger

[@wedmunds]

@@JD-cs4ee You're saying that when the literal international trade currency is the US dollar.

[@amtra1778]

damn West Taiwan is tweakin

[@TheJerbol]

SURELY there's a better way to support that village than delivering _coal_

[@bol0921]

now riot will have to pump out double the chinoid looking skins

[@croec]

West Taiwan is such a silly Territory.

[@RyanDownie]

Anything that upsets Winnie the Pooh is a win

[@randomuser8627]

China do be petty as hell

[@andrewm.8772]

Started governing in 1949? Why is that? What happened?

[@Trickzters]

Not listneing with music in the background cmon

[@hexcraftgaming]

Remember China and Taiwan are both the territories of Taiwan and the Chinese government just wants everyone to know :^)

[@TheBlymp]

Based Gen.G

[@trailfork7815]

TDLR doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, capitalism will triumph over everything

[@devilkingaming4619]

No one should be acknowledging the wishes of the CCP.

[@絶句-法律]

china overlords strike yet again lmao

[@kamaniek-o-d-d2524]

Taiwan is an independent country that should rule china. Wouldn't have all the tofu construction and poisoned food.

[@argotoss]

I feel sorry for them. They said the truth and got under pressure from the chinese because they own riot, and now they are under pressure from their own folks because they sent an apology letter

[@abouttime2569]

You clearly missed the point why GenG is hated by Koreans. It is not because they wrote an apology letter. It is because GenG said they support China's territorial integrity. That is going way beyond an ordinary apology letter. Inform yourself before you blame others in the future.

[@argotoss]

@@abouttime2569 Excuse me but supporting someone's integrity actually does not imply supporting their potential invasion into another sovereign country or anything of the sort

[@abouttime2569]

@@argotoss Just as I assumed. You have no clue what you are talking about regarding East Asia's history and the meaning and usage behind ''territorial integrity'' in Asia. If you actually studied East Asian history and contemporary politics of China and neighboring countries, GenG's statement literally means that they support all territorial disputes that China is involved. China is in territorial disputes with 5 or 6 countries at this moment and GenG just stated that all of those territory should be belonging to China. You are just uneducated in this matter.

[@abouttime2569]

@@argotoss Too many westerners these days act like they know what they are talking about without informing themselves with basic knowledge regarding Asia. They always think in terms of western backgrounds and concepts and apply it to Asia lol. Can't be more ignorant than that.

[@argotoss]

@@abouttime2569 It has nothing to do with Asia. You can interpret the word "territorial integrity" the way you said, but you can also interpret it in a way that you support the country in its current borders. So excuse me, but your conceited comment is not applicable. Because from your definition, you can't support territorial integrity of almost any neighbouring countries, because they usually have at least some grievances towards their neighbor's area. With what I imply with that word, you can say that you support all countries' territorial integrity and that statement will be fine for everyone. It is possible that there was more context in the letter and/or the translation is incomplete or anything of the sort - I didn't read the full original letter. I assumed that Gen.G meant it in the way I described, just to apologize, not to turn back on against Taiwan. Maybe it's not the case, but you then better show it, rather than arguing here about two words' definition and trying to randomly mock my supposedly absent knowledge about the subject

[@MadeUnavailable]

Kiryu Coco~

[@joetri10]

Imagine getting upset that Taiwan is a county

[@xSkwintz]

Taiwan is a country tho. Independent island colonized by China, eventually annexed by Japan, which gave control of it to the Nationalist Chinese who fled from the mainland. It was Japan’s and China needs to grow up and accept that 😂

[@incandescent3424]

-100 social credits bros

[@chohsena627]

The entire team has the same haircut and it somehow doesn't look good on any of them. The why must be fascinating.

[@bigbilly29]

Based early upload

[@minglin2814]

HELL YEAH CHINA#1

[@piepie1231]

gen.G is based

[@hjc12]

As expected from the most sensitive government in the world

[@jhkrev3]

시디즈 넛츠 언제까지 중국정부 비위 맞춰주면서 사나 타이완 남바 완

[@hana-rv6ru]

시디즈 넛츠 ?? see these nuts?😂

[@WanderingPatata]

So Riot is owned by a Chinese company. Idk if I can still support it. But I love watching LOL pro games.😢

[@StarkCoyotEspada1]

IF tencent thanos snapped GenG there would be MASSSSSSSSSIVE backlash from people and govts that could even in extreme cases get the platform removed

[@ImJustSage]

hi 🙂

[@naemiaya]

Should have called them east roc. Or when visiting the wumao, west taiwan

[@ken-pm5ic]

Bro needs to get off Reddit and touch grass

[@lilpiper5847]

0:53 sooooo are the bowl cuts a thing they do as a team??? Or is that legit a coincidence that they all have the same hair style? I cant help but laugh.

[@GatoPachanga]

Crazy

[@kaneko5864]

When u see what happened to Uruha Rushia on the Hollolive thingy for saying Taiwan was a country u can easily see why its a huge problem for GenG

[@hsquare5380]

That’s a different person you are talking about.

[@swe872]

it was coco, not rushia

[@0973david]

Respect for Gen G went down when they apologized

[@TheJerbol]

It was that or probably have the entire org dissolved and everyone blacklisted lol

[@rikisan8319]

China is a country?? I thought that was west Taiwan

[@maxx_xero]

saame China is not a country idk what they talking about free West Taiwan!

[@rikisan8319]

#FreeWestTaiwan2023@@maxx_xero

[@arcanefan]

Lol china isn't a country?well i guess we have to redefine what a country is or the premise of it😂

[@Carlos-qg2me]

Based China as always.

[@improprioo1]

Taipei will return to china, its just a matter of time. Lets not forget that what caused everything was a political meme between communists and "democracy", and also the intervention of USA.

[@sick_motion8973]

Taiwan is my favourite country

[@NeedHealer]

Poor Taiwan

[@SzefAdonis]

this is sad for Taiwan fans it is kinda like they throw them in to the bus lol

[@gaoquake]

listen, i love u. mouths gotta go man

[@AkuFexin]

The first half made me like gen g. The second half made me dislike GenG. Lmao

[@gespy796]

ah yes the taiwan is a country backlash

[@GraveXSensei]

But Taiwan is a country just like this channel said ~ 😂😂😂

[@OutshineUwU]

Wtf is a China? I only know Taiwai and their province West Taiwan

[@WANCHAN_123]

Just ignore both China and Taiwan altogether

[@starcobra2]

Thank you China