Gen Y Executive Hitch Review

Thoughts on my Gen-Y Executive Hitch after 2k miles.

[@GENYHITCH]

Thank you for sharing your experience! We appreciate it!

[@bradlinenberg5603]

Great video. I have a Mega cab SRW 3500 and was considering changing out my B&W slider. Your video has helped me to stay with the B&W. Thanks for the great content.

[@BenjaminMedlock]

New Subscriber! This video was straightforward, concise, and informative. Well done review and I look forward to future updates.

[@LoadedUpandTraveling]

Thank you for this review. We are choosing this hitch from the start and this helped to confirm our choice.

[@NordicNevs]

Great video!!!! A few things I noticed for my set up with the goosebox. You don’t have to drill for the Reese goosebox to mount the chains. Also the warranty is honored by Lippert with Reese so that’s a good thing as you mentioned and you’re right it’s a personal choice. My air bag holds air for months and usually only required about 10psi but that’s just me. I appreciate the honest review for the Gen Y. No doubt it’s a solid option.

[@cadexim]

Stayed objective and shared pros and cons. Nice video.

[@94ss06gxp]

About to purchase this exact hitch. Great review and video.

[@bobbyc9977]

I had the similar squeak on my Gen-y I sat in the bed while my wife moved slow down the road and listened, I found it coming from the ball, cause of powder coating inside, I added grease and went away

[@Captain-Awesome]

We have the same squeak and I thought maybe it was from the ball as well. I’ve got about 2300 miles on our hitch so there’s no doubt it’s broken. I plan on greasing the ball see if it goes away. I’m curious, if you see this post, do you have chucking on (Concrete) Road with yours? I still have it but it’s getting better. There are certain concrete roads roads it’s worse than others.

[@julianjohnson9850]

Thank you. This is exactly the type of review I was looking for.

[@roberthall696]

Great story. Covered everything that I needed to know.

[@jonathanearles2262]

Thanks for the reply I had a morryde pin box and a anderson ultimate hitch I was hoping to free up bed space and improve the ride. I guess I will find out we are heading from central Illinois to disney fort wilderness in March.

[@brettpeters2306]

If you are looking for better ride quality and less chucking get the goose box. The pivot point in the ball mount allows a forward back cushion with the air bag and not strictly up and down. I installed one on my 43ft 5th wheel and the ride quality was drastically improved

[@coolHandLuke5150]

I have a reese goose box gen 1 for 3 years. I did it space as well. But i did it from the start. It has holes to bolt safety chains, no drilling needed. My local hardware store did not stock strong enough chains or hooks I like the air ride. I have to get in the bed to hook up the chains. I just add air then. The ride is amazing. Zero chunking. I as adjust the right height on the fly. Say backing in to a steep driveway (my last house) dump bag, ass end pops up 2". No need to throw timber down to drive over. Iwould be suprized at all if you where exceeding the "Vertical load limit: 5,000 lbs" of the off set ball Been there done that "short bed problems" A tall ball or bolt the hitch in lower would be a better option if you are not worried about tagging the cab. Also "been there done that"

[@MrAllmotorB]

Just installed mine a month ago absolutely love it!

[@SmokeyBear2001]

It was pointed out to me in a RV thread that the user manual states the mounting bolts need to be re-torqued every 100 miles....i checked it out and it does state that. This seems insane to do???

[@jamesglenn520]

Probably for the first few tows because the powder coat is going to compress and a little torque is going to be lost.

[@mrkrause3]

Great information! Thanks for sharing!

[@darenm6124]

I just got a fifth wheel trailer and I have to be able to haul a slide in camper for different camping when not using the fifth wheel so I didn’t want to mess with the hitch that was going to be in the bed all the time I was going from camper to fifth wheel. When I saw the Gen Y on line I figured that I was the best way to go. I had the place I bought the fifth wheel install the Gen Y and the B & W gooseneck fron the start. I have only gone short trip so far but I think its going to work. I have notice there is some bouncing and heavy movement that I have not had before. When I am hauling the camper and are horse trailer at the same time I weigh 24,000 pounds. With this new fifth wheel trailer I am going to be pushing 26,000 if not more. All the trailers I have pulled so far have always been bumper pulls that have pushed 13,000 at the most. This fifth wheel weighs 16,000 dry weight so it’s the heaviest I have ever pulled. I did see on some reviews that there is a break in the Gen Y hitch is around 2000 miles so I am hoping that the ride will get better when it gets broke in.

[@cedwards874]

Thank you for a great review.

[@clyderanger]

Thanks!! I was considering it .For cost a very little improvement in RIDE & extra weight. I'll stay with what I have .

[@m1ll3r86]

I put one on my 5th wheel a few months ago. I have only towed with it twice. I had to do the b&w ball that set back 4 inches on mine because of how far forward my gooseneck ball was installed and I had a heavy duty rear bumper. I noticed my b&w ball sits a bit higher off the bed floor and actually let it move around some. Since then I have installed a different rear bumper and can actually use the original b&w ball. But I haven't had the chance to tow with it due to my truck having some issues. But I will say the little bit of towing I have done was a smoother ride than my Andersen hitch I had.

[@alanpetersen4497]

I also put the GEN-Y hitch on my 2020 GD Solitude 380fl 5th wheel. I also had to purchase the B&W 4" extension ball, to get the clearance from my cab. Unfortunately, today, I was backing up, and my rear wheels sank in a pot hole, and the RV hit the rear cab, and blew my rear window out. Now, I am thinking that et my height, I need to drop the GEN-Y hitch, by using only 4 bolts, instead of 6 bolts. The question is, Can I use 4 bolts to attach the GEN -Y to my RV, instead of 6 bolts? Thereby, dropping the GEN-Y down an inch, and thusly giving me added height to my RV.

[@chuckpoz1968]

Thank you for helping all of Us make better choices 😎 after this I’m going G-Y for my Ram 2500 Crew short bed 👍🏻

Dude! I have watched several videos that have raised plenty of questions BUT...none more than will it fit and clear my cab on turns in my Ram 3500 Short Bed Mega Cab ??? Well, I know now.... THANKS!!

[@dewaynehastings3191]

When I purchased mine it had been approved for the jayco Just installed mine this week for same reason doing side work I need the bed of my truck.

[@stevenlycans6571]

Thanks for the video!

[@situationaladventures]

Great info and review. Only thing I’d add is that Lippert now makes their own Gooseneck Connect that of course is approved for their frames, as is the Reese Goosebox.

[@whateverfits1978]

Thanks for the info. Didn't know that. I'll check it out!

[@jonathanearles2262]

It has no suspension and costs $855 no thanks

[@1StrangeAdventure]

I’ve been researching these hitches for our Grand Design Momentum 399. With such a big RV, we are looking for something that could improve our ride quality. Thanks for the info.

[@slinger3350]

I have the Reflection & just trying to save some bed space.

[@bigearn8782]

I'm not familiar with your RV, but I added Sumo Springs to my RV. Some others added shock absorbers. Besides air shocks on the truck, Sumo's on the RV was a worth while add-on for me as in ride quality.

[@roberthall696]

Get a Hensley air ride for improved ride.

[@campersnspokes4485]

Thanks. Great honest video.

[@patrickhoffman6340]

Great video, really appreciate the information. I currently have a similar setup as your old one ( 2019 MHC 379 RD & B&W companion sider) and have been considering switching the hitch to either the goosebox or the gen-y for two reasons: 1. The bed space & 2. I have to remove the hitch to pull my gooseneck equipment trailer. Definitely leaning towards the gen-y hitch after watching this video, just concerned about clearance (cap to cab) since I tow with a short box pickup. Any thoughts???

[@whateverfits1978]

After I bought the 4" gooseneck extender I don't worry about it much. The 4" gave me plenty of room. I still can't do 90 degree turns, but I've also never had a need to.

[@patrickhoffman6340]

Yeah and I have been experiencing the same thing. I have yet to need the slider on my companion hitch.

[@endurancechiro2607]

Thanks for your review, lots of good points here. I noticed you’ve got the short bed as well, before you put the B&w extension on it did you have any issues with the camper trying to come in contact with the cab of the truck when turning, especially backing up? Some of the campgrounds we go to are snug and require some tight turns and hard angles. I’d be coming from the non-sliding version of the companion, backing up gets tight on my cab, especially if I have to go up a small grade. On the road quality does your truck have the factory installed airbags? Mine doesn’t, and I get a lot of chucking with the B&W.

[@whateverfits1978]

I never came in contact with the bed, but my turning was inhibited. Honestly, I was a little scared to go full lock going forward. Backing up I always erred on the side of caution and was always able to get into spot(lots of backing up, going forward though). As far as the ride, I don't have airbags, but I did have lots of chucking with the BW. Sometimes when taking off you'd hear a loud clank that would scare everyone to death. I like that the goose ball doesn't do any of that.

[@BenjaminMedlock]

Do you have any 2 year updates? Still love the hitch?

[@stephencourson2504]

I just put one on my travel trailer I love it the paper work for the hitch said 1000 miles for the break in period

[@texasproud3332]

Good video I am glad you’re happy with you’re hitch I just think that having too it 4” higher at the pin seems like it would pitch it up too high also seems like it’s turn in too a bit of a hassle too work with and really not gain much bed space

[@whateverfits1978]

Well, when I say gaining bed space, I mean mostly when unloaded and I can just remove a ball and have a flat bed. With the slider hitch, it was so bulky that I never really wanted to take it out because it was just a hassle. But to your point, you do have more bed space when towing as well. The way the camper sits now is pretty level so the nose doesn't stick up or anything like that.

[@robertvillafane5308]

I like your truck

[@patriot8087]

Great review, With the added weight on the pin Box from the Gen Y being heavier causing frame issues or being sub in some way not able to deal with the added weight on the frame?

[@whateverfits1978]

I guess it is possible. With all the frame flex issues going on right now, I would be a little more leery of anything that could be construed as causing problems if you intend on utilizing any type of warranty. Only certain manufacturers allow pin box replacements without voiding your warranty. My rig was out of warranty so it wasn't an issue for me there. That begin said. I had my rig pretty loaded when we traveled and never had a frame issue.

[@weldong8698]

Chains are required for gooseneck trailers, at least in my state.

[@neilmac4730]

How about backing up enough for the chains to reach and connect before backing up to finish installation? Is that a viable solution? Cheers.

[@chuckpoz1968]

I would like info as to where to get the pin for the hitch you have in the bed it looks off set ? I also have a short bed and want to use my bed. Thank you inadvance also thanks for sharing that video 👍🏻

[@whateverfits1978]

No affilitiation with this company, but this is about the best price you'll find. www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8718&gclid=CjwKCAiA9vOABhBfEiwATCi7GNInj8_nBanEbBH6RFVwM1_Xrnu-EhDHXYz3qBJojfrdMpKr_mqdcRoCCW4QAvD_BwE

[@eddiebeaty8150]

The hitch may be good but I'd be worried about the torsional flex this will put on the framework of the trailer

[@timothymcclure3370]

What year is your truck? I have a 2020 Ram 3500 and I am having an issue with my stock DRV Elite Suite 5th wheel hitch and the ride height. Until recently you could not find a replacement option for heaven trailers 21,000-24,000 lbs ones but I am interested in Gen Y. I can not decide between the 5th wheel hookup or the gooseneck.

[@whateverfits1978]

2019 Ram 3500

[@DM-tf6mk]

Great video and informative. What type of degree turning radius did you have with the gen-y and your short bed, Ram? I recently upgraded from a 1500 back into an HD and its a Ram 2500 with the 6.4' bed. Thanks

[@whateverfits1978]

I never actually measured it, but I would guesss 70 . The short bed on the ram is definitely a downer. I've had Ford short beds (5-6" longer) and that extra room makes a lot of difference. I never had any issues turning going forward,. I could turn full lock and not hit the cab. However, backing up you definitely have to pay attention.

[@DM-tf6mk]

@whateverfits1978 Thank you so much for the reply. I appreciate it. Safe travels!

[@RWTT]

Great videos, thanks for the information! I am thinking of going with the Gen-Y as well so I don't have to remove my B&W hitch when I need the bed. We have an '18 Montana High Country. Do you think you could have used the lower holes to mount the hitch on the 5er to gain about an inch or so of clearance? I think you are saving some weight when you consider the weight of the slider hitch along with the pin box.

[@whateverfits1978]

Yes, I could have and would probably done it if I had to do over. Honestly, it was a pain to install that by myself. So, now that it's in there I'll leave it where it is. The Gen Y setup is a little lighter than the slider hitch, but hard to tell any difference there by the seat of the pants.

[@bigearn8782]

@@whateverfits1978 I was ready to ask the same Q as to use the lower holes. I believe the website says may have to use the lower because of the design. BUT, I think we all understand what you mean by a frustrating install and the thought of spending another 2+-hours....again to lower. I have an '18 RAM shorty. I saw another video where he didn't use an offset ball. So, with your great video, I think I'll go for the lower holes. Probably in March '22....and sell this Demco.

[@jeffcox9930]

Great review. I am considering replacing my Andersen. I was curious what bed length you have there. I presume with BW adapter there is no issue of cap making contact with the cab. A short vid with your rig 90 degrees and how much spacing there is would be nice.

[@whateverfits1978]

That's a 6'4" bed. Unfortunately, 90 degrees isn't possible with this set up. The adapter helps push it back some and it helps, but it still can't get to 90.

[@vickery1963]

@@whateverfits1978 70°, 80° ?

[@whateverfits1978]

@@vickery1963 never measured, but I would guess around 70.

[@keithmoulding6890]

Great show Will this hitch fit a 2021 Chevy with a standard bed to pull a 1998 Hithhicker without clearance problems

[@whateverfits1978]

I believe the Chevy and Ram both have about 21" of bed height from the bed floor to the top of the rails. So, that should be pretty close.. Don't know much about a '98 hitchhiker. You'd have to make sure Gen-y has a model to fit your camper.

[@jonathanearles2262]

I just installed the 4.5 K model 8055AL on my 2018 Jayco 377RLBH was not impressed with the ride initially will the ride improve after break in and how much does cold weather 26° affect the stiffness of the rubber bushings anythoughts thxs

[@whateverfits1978]

I wasn't impressed either initially. It took about 1k miles for it to get better for me. Not sure what you switched from, but my ride isn't better one way or the other from the BW setup I had. I actually loved the ride of the BW, but it took up the entire bed. The ride now, after about 3k miles or so, is much better than when I initially installed. I would imagine the cold weather does have an impact on the rubber bushings, but I have done much cold towing with it. I would think once they start moving and get warmed up they should be fine.

[@alstuart]

I recently replaced my Andersen hitch with the Gen-Y executive 5th wheel. It is a little harder to hook up the Gen-Y compared to the Anderson because the Anderson has a funnel that guides onto the ball. I am confident with more practice I will be able to get the ball under the Gen-Y on the first try. I have only driven about 600 miles with the Gen-Y. I noticed the exact same squeaking noise. Hopefully it gets better after the breakin period. I like the ride quality of the Gen-Y more than the Andersen. The main problem I have with the Gen-Y is the difficulty detaching. I have to pull the cable while my wife lifts the RV. How do you detach by yourself?

[@whateverfits1978]

My controls are on a door pretty close to the front of the camper. I think there is one shot in the video where you can see me raising the camper off the ball, maybe it's the first video I did of the install. Anyway, I can work the controls with my right hand and pull the cable with my left. It will definitely depend on where your RV controls are located. Mine just happen to be in a good position.

[@williameasley4660]

My Gen Y is on a 2021 Rogue Amored 371 and my auto leveling buttons are inside of one of my compartments. I'm not able to do both at the same time but my directions said to slightly lift the camper to take a little pressure off of the ball. Then pull the release cable and it will stay unlatched. Then you can continue to raise the camper the rest of the way...with only one person. This works perfectly for me and I hope it helps someone else.

[@MrErichonda30]

​@@williameasley4660tye a piece of rope on a carabiner to extend it.

[@motarded4214]

Are you able to get 90deg to the trailer with this setup? It looks like it might move the trailer back enough that cab interference isn't an issue

[@whateverfits1978]

No quite 90, but it will turn sharp enough for any spot I've tried to back into.

[@danielalva5362]

I know this is an old post, but wanted to know how your turning radius looked with the B&W 4” offset ball. I have a 3500 short bed single rear wheel mega cab and am considering moving to this set up from the sidewinder pin box since I already have the B&W turn over ball in the truck. Taking the 5th wheel hitch in and out of it when I need the bed has outworn it’s welcome. Thanks.

[@whateverfits1978]

I don't know the exact radius, but moving it back the 4" really helped. I never had any issues backing into spots with it. I don't think you would be disappointed with this setup.

[@danielalva5362]

@@whateverfits1978 would you be able to come close to a 90 degree turn with the setup?

[@whateverfits1978]

@@danielalva5362 I don't think so, but honestly, I've never needed to do a 90 degree turn.

[@tomb1734]

My concern is Lippert won't cover the warranty with the Gen Y and will with the Reese Goosebox so I'll keep the Reese.

[@bigearn8782]

Who told you this about Gen-Y voiding the warranty? I would like to see that, since I'm looking at Gen-Y. I've only read from Lippert/RV manufacturer that gooseneck adapters [convert a ball] will, but not the Gen-Y as a whole unit.

[@bugmanmech]

Difference in the ride height of the trailer? Does it ride level with the gen-y hitch as compared to the OEM pin box? Height of the fifth wheel hitch compared to the height of the goose ball? Trailer rides nose high with my B&W. Looking to lower the nose every thing else being okay. Flat bed truck so bed clearance not a concern.

[@whateverfits1978]

I think it depends on your camper. My camper had three sets of mounting holes, I put it in the lower setting. Plus, the extended hitch ball I got also sat a little higher. Where I set mine, with a stock ball, mine was about the same as the BW. I would definitely suggest measuring before installing. Once you get that Gen Y in there, you won't want to take it out to adjust; at least if your setup went like mine did.

[@lakecountyliprippers6311]

How was the Gen y on turning radius before adding the B&W extension? I just bought a camper and I'm getting this gooseneck installed on it... My truck has a 6.75' bed and I'm worried it might not turn as sharp as I need it to

[@whateverfits1978]

So mine is a 6’4” bed. And for me it got a little close to the cab.

[@AnthonyOrtiz247]

Does the extension give you the clearance you need?

[@darrenlife5144]

Thanks for the great video. I also have a Ram 3500 mega cab but with the factory puck system, are aware of an offset ball that works in Ram’s puck system? My GenY is on order but concerned with cab clearance.

[@whateverfits1978]

To my knowledge, there is no offset ball to work with the factory puck system.

[@davew9251]

@Darren: Did you ever find an offset ball for your RAM 3500 puck system ? I'm getting my setup/rig next week and am looking and can't find anything. I did call GenY and they are saying they are working on their own version of offset balls hopefully by beginning of 2022.

[@darrenlife5144]

@@davew9251 no, I still have the B&W ball that is a sturdy unit but not offset. Thank for letting me know that GenY is working on an offset, I’ll definitely look forward to this. I’ve thought of a design with the ball in its position with two stand off arms anchored in two of the empty chaining receivers to prevent the ball from spinning

[@davew9251]

@@darrenlife5144 I can't picture what you're getting at LOL ! But you're still using the same B&W ball in the Ram center puck hole for the goose ball ? Or you're somehow using the offset ball in the center hole and then trying to stabilize it with your arm design ?

[@darrenlife5144]

@@davew9251 still using the centre ball and being very careful when I back into a site 😀

[@ConcoursOne]

Trailer saver hitch rides better and much less stress on your trailer. Expansion joints now a non issue as far as ride goes. It does however not free up box space like the Gen Y

[@edsmercina7157]

Thanks

[@Marcosfamilyloft]

It’s a 2019, 3500, SW, with Ram boxes.

[@TIiBob1]

I have a flatbed with a sunken ball in a trap door. Do you think the torsion plates would make contact with my bed?

[@whateverfits1978]

Hard to say without know how far it is sunken, but it would have to be a pretty good drop for that to happen.

[@clrandolph23]

How did this effect your cab clearance? I currently have a pulltite auto slider that gives me just enough clearance on a 2021 keystone. I am curious how much it moved the camper back total from the companion in the forward position 🤔

[@whateverfits1978]

Gave me about 4" more space between the cab and the truck. I never liked how close it was with the slider and short bed. 4" doesn't sound like a lot, but it was noticeable.

[@jamesglenn520]

Can you go 90° and or beyond now with that short truck?

[@switz11]

@@jamesglenn520 I have the exact same truck in the video and had the same question.

[@shawnjohnson1310]

I have the exact same truck. How’s your cab clearance when making tight turns?

[@whateverfits1978]

It's tight, must be careful and swing wide...

[@switz11]

I have the exact same truck. Can you do at least a 90-degree turn with this setup? Thanks!

[@neilmac4730]

Read the Jeff Cox question. His answer is there for you. The answer is no but the answer is more detailed.

[@kourtnayogden3909]

Have you found a lock that will work for it? I would like to be able to lock mine up while being stored.

[@whateverfits1978]

I have not. Mine was in enclosed storage so I didn't really explore one.

[@davidsteig1775]

How does it do in tight turns. I want a gooseneck over my slider. However, the goosenecks I have tried cut off my turning radius. On sharp turns I run the risk of the tongue hitting the side of my box. I dont have to worry about that with my slider hitch. Is that something I have to worry about with the Gen Y. I have a 15 ram shortbed

[@whateverfits1978]

you may have more turning radius with a slider since it will most likely go back further.

[@rcheas4894]

You comment that the GenY pin box was heavier but how much weight did you take out with removing the B&W slider? What would be your total weight change overall?

[@whateverfits1978]

BW slider and Geny hitch probably weigh about the same. The noticeable difference was between the stock pin box and the Gen-y. Stock pin box was easy to lift by yourself; the Gen-y was almost impossible.

[@mediocrity9574]

The B&W Companion Slider weighs a total of 287lbs. The Rotoflex pin box weighs approx 116lbs.The Gen-Y weighs between 118lbs - 181lbs, depending on what model you need. So switching those out will shave 200lbs+

[@SmokeyBear2001]

Great video and I am nearly sold on this Gen Y versus the Goosebox. How is the auto latch system? Easy to hookup and disconnect?

[@whateverfits1978]

Very easy, just pull the cord to release it. It never binds. When hooking up, it just goes on and connects automatically. Nothing to it.

[@SmokeyBear2001]

@@whateverfits1978 sorry one more question...did the squeaking noise fully go away? This seems to be a rare issue and maybe it just needs "broken in" when it does occur.

[@whateverfits1978]

@@SmokeyBear2001 It has. After about 1k miles, I don't hear it anymore..

[@SmokeyBear2001]

@@whateverfits1978 I am ordering one. What is your GVWR on your camper and what model hitch did you go with? Our 5th wheel has a pin box weight of 2,090 and camper GVWR is 14,000 lbs. Gen Y recommended the 4.5k model gooseneck conversion

[@whateverfits1978]

@@SmokeyBear2001 my pin box weight is around 2500. I went with the next to highest model that has a max pin weight of 4500. Geny Y actually recommended the highest model with 5500 pin weight max, but I thought that was overkill for my setup. GVWR is 16,500.

[@PeeWeeHenson]

WHEN REMOVING THE 5TH WHEEL HITCH AND THE PIN BOX DOES THE GEN Y WEIGH LESS THEN THE 5TH WHEEL AND PIN BOX COMBINED?

[@whateverfits1978]

Yes, BW Slider hitch weighs 278 lbs. Pin box felt like 50 or or so. Gen - Y hitch was 155lbs.

[@roncooley5651]

Did the Gen Y void your camper warranty? I heard that reese goosebox is the only one that wont void warranty but thats just what i have heard.

[@whateverfits1978]

There was a section in the video about that. Honestly, I don't know. I haven't had any issues or needed to use the structural warranty. Camper is out of the normal warranty so unless I have issues with the frame, I doubt I will ever know.

[@Youmissedthejoke26]

@@whateverfits1978 Honestly, I think Lippert would have a tough time justifying voiding a warranty based on the use of this hitch. The Magnussen Moss act makes it the Manufacturer's responsibility to prove that the aftermarket modification specifically caused the damage. Given the similarity in design and function to the Reese Goosebox (which they have approved), I think they would have a hard time with that.

[@coolHandLuke5150]

Its leaverage. Goose adaptors have a ton of leavege over a standard pin box. LP did not engineer its frames to take those forces. If you look, you will find a few video where the reese goose box is being blamed for the frame failure

[@patbullard9276]

You mentioned the weight being more. Does that include the weight savings from the loss of the hitch in your bed? In other words, the weight of the pin box plus the hitch?

[@whateverfits1978]

The weight of the camper would be more since the pin box was heavier than stock, but overall it probably even out.

[@patbullard9276]

@@whateverfits1978 That’s what I thought, so it doesn’t significantly affect the combination weight and the weight over the truck axel should be about the same as well as the weight on the trailer axels. Thanks for responding.

[@whateverfits1978]

Yes. That’s correct!

[@jamesglenn520]

Having a rigg that short to tow with is probably part of the rough ride problem. 👍

[@witkr904]

Yeah, a Dually Shortbed? Gimme a break.

[@mediocrity9574]

@@witkr904 Totally agree about a short box dually. But, if one wants the Mega Cab, you can’t get it with a long box. There are several company’s throughout the US that can do a conversion to a long box.

[@BuggieChief]

Can you talk about rail clearance at higher degree turns and can you get 90 degrees?

[@whateverfits1978]

I have right at 7" of clearance all the way around. No 90 degree turns though. I know that's the "gold standard" for turns, but honestly I've logged a lot of towing miles and backing up in to tight spaces and never needed to turn that sharp. I realize that every situation is different and some people may need to turn that tight, but I just haven't so that wasn't really a concern for me. If so, I would have gotten the long bed. However, the interior room of the mega cab was more important to me than the bed length.

[@stevensegars4966]

@@whateverfits1978 and did u find the 7” clearance was good so camper doesnt bottom out on bed rails?

[@whateverfits1978]

@@stevensegars4966 Yes, I never hit the rails. Mostly hwy towing of course, but a few off camber turns and never any issues.

[@kourtnayogden3909]

So you have to continue to hold back the auto latch while pushing the button to lift your front RV stabilizers to come off of the ball?

[@whateverfits1978]

yes

[@buckwuk7984]

I feel like you could install a little clip or something somewhere to put the loop in to hold it open. Just a thought

[@whateverfits1978]

@@buckwuk7984 It's possible. It takes a little bit of force to pull the cable due to the way it is routed, but if you had a clip in just the right place it could probably work. I've got long arms so it's not too big of a concern based on where my auto level controls are placed.

[@alstuart]

I have the same Gen-Y hitch. I can't detach the RV by myself because I can't pull the cable and push the button to lift the RV. It takes 2 people. I like the idea of installing a hook to hold the cable in the open position.

[@williameasley4660]

My Gen Y is on a 2021 Rogue Amored 371 and my auto leveling buttons are inside of one of my compartments. I'm not able to do both at the same time but my directions said to slightly lift the camper to take a little pressure off of the ball. Then pull the release cable and it will stay unlatched. Then you can continue to raise the camper the rest of the way...with only one person. This works perfectly for me and I hope it helps someone else.

[@ronsanchez4710]

Now that you have had the Gen Y for a year, do you have any new comments/feedback? Thanks

[@whateverfits1978]

I have a new setup now. I got a newer camper and it has the Andersen hitch. I really like the Gen-Y for bed space, but if you're just concerned about the ride, I wouldn't buy it just for that.

[@jamesglenn520]

Check out all the information on those weak Anderson hitches Folding Up⚠️⚠️⚠️👎👎 The pictures are worth a thousand words 😲🥺

[@bryanmontgomery4050]

Gen Y needs to get approved by Lippert!! Their sales would go through the roof!!!

[@whateverfits1978]

Agreed

[@goneridingparts]

@@whateverfits1978 Sounds like a money racket to me, Goosebox probably paid for their approval, I would think the goosebox or gen y, would both put similar stresses on these campers. But that's just one of the billions of opinions on this internet.

[@whateverfits1978]

@@goneridingparts agreed. Seeing and feeling the heft of the Gen Y, you definitely feel like it's safe, especially compared to the stock pin box.

[@jaredfreeman8572]

Do you have airbags on your truck aswell?

[@whateverfits1978]

No airbags and completely sock suspension.

[@miguelsalinas2384]

How is it having the gen y hitch with a shortened truck?

[@whateverfits1978]

It works out better than a fifth wheel when you use an offset ball to push the camper back. My setup had a 4" offset so I could turn sharper than with the fifth wheel.

[@JTRM3]

With the new hitch and 4” offset how close to the cab can you get in degrees?

[@whateverfits1978]

still not as close as I'd like. Probably somewhere around 70

[@JTRM3]

@@whateverfits1978 Interesting, would’ve thought you would get more with the 4” offset ball.

[@bajamedic]

I don’t like Reese for the airbag reason too.

[@daviddavis6572]

How long is the bed of truck?

[@whateverfits1978]

6'4"

[@zane4795]

Did you notice any additional noise with using the 4” offset ball?

[@whateverfits1978]

no real noise difference. I could tell the ride was a little different with it being further back though.

[@zane4795]

@@whateverfits1978 good to know! Is your BW turnover ball location directly over the axle? Or is it pushed a little forward toward the cab like most I’ve seen?

[@whateverfits1978]

@@zane4795 It's a little forward of the axle.

[@paullutz457]

How come you just didn’t get a taller gooseneck ball?

[@whateverfits1978]

The combo of higher and further back worked well. I thought I just needed height, but the distance helped a lot as well.

[@scottadams8424]

Do you believe it eliminated or reduced bucking or chucking?

[@whateverfits1978]

Completely

[@bross824]

Does this hitch provide cab clearance for a short box pickup?

[@whateverfits1978]

You can't do a 90 degree turn, but it works well enough for me. Not really anything to do with the hitch imo. I think it's about the same as a fifth wheel pin box would be in a short bed truck.

[@bross824]

Thank you for reply!

[@Marcosfamilyloft]

Can you use this system with a Ram boxes?

[@mediocrity9574]

No, because the bed with is narrower.

[@TheDudeIndiana03]

Are those toolboxes attached to the back of your bed?!

[@whateverfits1978]

Nothing mounted permanently in the bed. Just two portable boxes in the bed.

[@Gopher7]

How about tight corners?

[@whateverfits1978]

Never found a situation (moving forward) that caused an issue.

[@kingranch8516]

My concern is the bushings when they start wearing will act like slingshot?

[@jamesglenn520]

What are you referring to? There are no rubber bands in the hitch. They are basically 4 independent torsion tubs. Nothing that is going to stretch and release energy.

[@kingranch8516]

@@jamesglenn520 really other blogs say different

[@jamesglenn520]

@@kingranch8516 there are videos showing how the hitch is made. There are no rubber parts that stretch. There is however rubber pieces that compress. That is how a torsion axel on trailers work.

[@jamesglenn520]

@@kingranch8516 The rubber pieces are replaceable and have a 5year warranty.

[@keithnorris8982]

Why didn't you want the air bag on the Reese. I'm learning right now

[@whateverfits1978]

I am sure it's a fine hitch, but I didn't want the added part of an airbag. It was an extra step to the hooking up process and possibly a failure point.

[@keithnorris8982]

@@whateverfits1978 Thanx for your reply. Actually, I like the review of Gen-Y, and by no means was I challenging your view. I need to purchase a hitch (the goose neck is already in the truck,) and a great job was done in installing it, so I thought it would be best to use it for my 31 foot Montana. I am completely new to R.V. world so I've spent at least 400 hours learning all the stuff folks like you are willing to post. Again, thank you very much:-) -keith norris

[@whateverfits1978]

@@keithnorris8982 sure thing! Best of luck with your purchase.

[@tomm_d]

As an owner of a Reese Goose Box, I can tell you that you don’t have to air up each time you use it. It holds air for months. And you can lift off the ball without airing down. Not sure where that myth started.

[@bigearn8782]

@@keithnorris8982 Just FYI, Gen-Y has different models, with different goosebox widths at the attaching point. I too, have a Montana with a 3,620 hitch weight on the CAT. I'm looking at the GY48FR 25K/4.5 (2.5 to 4.5 hitch weight), designed for the Lippert 1116/1716. Which means I need the spacer kit, too.

[@tommccoythomasm2505]

FYI the reason a goose neck requires safety chains and 5th wheels don't are lobbyist , the trucking industry uses 5th wheels so they have influenced government officials to not require safety chains in my opinion both should use safety chains.

[@rogergraves242]

U got A Short bed on U-R That ballot of U-R Problems is short bed 8Ft. Bed would smooth out U-R Ride.

[@christopherwilson7698]

I think people don’t understand that the more you use this hitch the Better it gets you have to break it in from new to about 500 miles to me there’s a Major difference the more miles and time you put on it the better smoother it performs break in is crucial.

[@jasonlovell3934]

I have never understood why the rv industry doesn’t just use a gooseneck hitch instead of the 5th wheel setup that uses up the entire bed.

[@rogergraves242]

Smoother Ride, It Takes Time,Bed Space yes.

[@witkr904]

Installed safety chains??? That is a Federal Law on Gooseneck Hitches!! Should have came from factory with them.

[@mpress60]

B & W ball has a 2" rise without having to move it back.

[@whateverfits1978]

The extender moves it back and up compared to the BW ball that comes with the hitch. So wherever it is with the stock ball, it's higher with the extender. Plus, I needed it to go back some too.

[@mpress60]

👍

[@michaelkonstantellis3075]

You want to get rid of that b&w companion?

[@whateverfits1978]

Already did😏

[@jessaryenterprises]

Good video. This made up my mind as to not purchase this hitch. The flexing I just don’t like. Thanks.

[@jamesglenn520]

It's absolutely no different than having torsion axels under your trailer. I absolutely wouldn't tow my large trailer Without it. It so simple and easy to use and the ride is very smooth.

[@craigwilliams1073]

Yep, space in the bed and a 2k increase in weight!

[@allenklingsporn6993]

All ball hitches are designed to have grease applied to them. You probably wore through the powder coating. You can avoid "break-in" noises by properly greasing your gooseball/gooseneck hitch.

[@wipatriot510]

While I cannot argue with the functionality of the hitch switch, there is on BIG downside... With the 5th wheel pin/plate system, the law allows passengers to ride in the towed object, albeit your camper, HOWEVER, by changing the hitch to a gooseneck/ball hitch, you lose that "ability"... Not that I would ever ride in the towed trailer, or allow anyone to ride in the towed trailer, but some do, so there is that...

[@whateverfits1978]

Yeah, I would never let anyone ride in there either.

[@jamesglenn520]

Never heard of anyone riding in a trailer. I actually thought it was Not Legal to do so 🤔

[@MrSteveKyle]

Misinfo about the Goosebox. No drilling required for chains.

[@BobBob-dx5jx]

Lipper will buy Gen-Y in a few years….

[@markhunt2808]

Your wrong the Reese goose box has holes to hook your chains in

[@NTM2009]

Safety chains are required for all gooseneck trailers. Also yours are in the wrong spot. Safety chains are required to be attached to the frame not the hitch or the pin box plates. Also even the goosebox voids warranty. All ball type hitches void the campers warranty

[@mediocrity9574]

Not true at all. The Reese Goosebox does NOT void the Lippert frame warranty. Reese paid for Lipperts approval/endorsement.

[@anthonymontoya1537]

Extenders and spacers from a math perspective just looks bad