Genburten Calls Out Hal For Not Being Honest About Him

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[@d-snke]

Zer0s just tucked under his blanky somewhere counting his oil money

[@jr5296]

Zer0 remembered when they got 2nd and he came back to get trolled in his chat. All he did was bring up how much money he made. He must have ptsd.

[@joshuam8444]

@@jr5296 fr he was like "if i made more than your yearly in one LAN, you cant talk about the kraber shots"

[@evo4gplus]

Zer0 really hated Gen but was scared to compete against him 😂

[@XuXiao276]

this

[@Lethia277]

This

[@GetDownCrazy71]

This

[@Druidtwink]

Hal talks too much and Zer0 hides like a worm outside of yelling at his team during games

[@KanameDrogba]

ngl this childish drama is what’s keeping apex alive

[@MrSaproling]

I am loving it, and honestly Gen and Timmy on the same team if they make it work it’s gonna be great Apex, Falcon and waltzy won’t work for sure;

[@TheGiftRF]

The casual scene is keeping Apex alive at this point

[@soccerguy2433]

Not really

[@Atlas77]

facts its the only reason the game is still kicking

[@ChameleonDance]

You've got to be joking. You need a hobby if this is what you enjoy 😂

[@fanatxrona8329]

hal taking all the damage for zer0 decisions

[@indiexanna]

You sure this is not the oil barons playing them all?

[@kait2972]

I'm sure zero's gonna get his when he gets back on stream.

[@jerryking3216]

This is exactly what i tried to say to Hal's soldiers. 😂

[@humansnotbots-y8l]

Yep. I understand Hal could’ve went about things in a different way and been more considerate, but at the end of the day he wasn’t the one who teamed with Gen for 3 years… Zer0 screwed his teammate, end of story.

[@AxeAfrika242]

Hal is the same fucking rat as Zer0...

[@riohotlandmarpaung6015]

Zer0 is a coward

[@b3to653]

So is hal 😂

[@drdrio90]

​@@b3to653together

[@adamschroeder5842]

Hal leaving TSM is starting to look like a bad move.

[@rizzurpa6729]

it started when his teamates were happier as soon as he left and theyre only getting better

[@DopaMineConnor]

Verhulst and reps were sandbagging him at the end. Every time they accomplished anything towards the end, Hal did literally everything. He will be okay

[@ttvsphere_joe_1837]

I thought falcons would work out but I guess I was wrong.

[@lixi5070]

nearing the end of his tsm time, reps and verhulst were just lacking, leaving was no doubt the better choice back then.

[@rycycle413]

Leaving verhulst was his biggest mistake 💯

[@Hyzaa]

If Timmy didn't tell Gen, then how long were Zero & Hal going to wait to tell him. lol

[@sethhager4097]

They weren't going to say shit to him

[@aqilardi5266]

They werent. Zer0 most likely didnt want gen as a competitor

[@clifft2269]

Best comment possible.

[@AJ-iy4fo]

This is exactly my point

[@TurtleScopes]

praying on falcons downfall

[@harrycampbell1379]

we’re all with you

[@niceescanor2926]

Waiting impatiently for it ✌🏽

[@hawaiilacrosse44]

I mean they are currently holding a 20th place finish and immediately dropped Gen. Downfall is here brother

[@oneshot6650]

Man wxltzy was my fav player. Sucks that he joined falcons :(

[@viiali]

there's no where left to fall down to brother

[@brayanartalejo7912]

The fact that you could have messed it up worse by telling him a day before doesn't mean you didn't mess it up by telling him six days before, whether it was intentional or not.

[@RickGrimes807]

Except he didn't even tell him 6 days before. Timmy did.

[@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally]

@@RickGrimes807 Yeah so basically he's saying "I could have lied when Gen asked me to confirm what he was told". Which makes them look even worse

[@misterraider7212]

Fr, its such a non point like "it could be been really bad but instead it was just bad" makes no sense hal needs to stop deflecting for zero

[@aussieguy9070]

Exactly

[@Ralffy1]

Deadass

[@timhobbs2446]

The problem ppl are having w/ Hal is that the first time he brought this up, he said “zero” and “the team” but this last statement has a lot of “we” in it. Which then makes him be a part of it when he said in the first statement that he didn’t have much in it. Had an opinion but that’s it. Now it sounds like DM’s were going around for a week so that’s more than an opinion

[@christianryan9989]

EXACTLY. Zer0 might be the one largely responsible, but Hal constantly switching his story up and contradicting himself makes it seem like he’s complicit in this, knows Zer0 is wrong for it and is choosing to protect his team’s image instead of giving an apology or even an admission of guilt. Zer0 made his bed and Hal chose to lie with him because in his mind, you don’t matter unless you can help him win.

[@freebandz4332]

Zer0 assigned Hal to cover his ass.

[@Le0nard000000]

hes basically caught up in this, what else do you want him to do, not trying hard to stay clean in this? hes just kinda incoherent....like hes always been

[@HaasArrest]

Hope waltzy doesn't regret teaming up with these kids.

[@scole1448]

Sucks for waltzy, imo if it even matters I don’t think they’ll win champs or split 1 next year and they’ll split again. Something just doesn’t seem right

[@TevitaLolohea-n3z]

Nah trust waltzy and zeros bro mance should resonate

[@princekittipon6510]

@@TevitaLolohea-n3z fr waltzy a lil snake too

[@konosuba350]

Waltzy is zer0's friend closer than gen

[@willspark3242]

Zero and Waltz are really good friends. I think thats the real reason why they picked him, I got feeling they been talk to Waltz.

[@GerryLo5198]

Hal just speaking a bunch of unimportant bullshit. The crux of the issue is they were too scared to tell him up front, almost leaving him without a team. Literally, all they have to do is say “Gen, we screwed you over, we’re very sorry”. Hal is just blah, blah blah, visa this, visa that, just total bullshit.

[@youknowwhoiam6164]

Can’t take business personally 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@sabjee1734]

​@@youknowwhoiam6164 Id hope you're not D riding

[@solomonbacon8893]

its business dawg. get on Zer0s ass if anything. he owes gen the most, not half.

[@JayDzay]

Exactly. He couldve just owned up to this shit cause it does make sense on what decisions they did for their own benefit which also unfortunately resulted in screwing over Gen (also couldve told him straight up regardless if it was his birthday). It's just the way he was trying to explain to the people that he is a good guy and not villainize him.. like bro is trying so hard to protect whats left of his image after he left TSM.. At the end of the day its just business/career. I also have a feeling when Zero speaks on this he will just straight up say that they did screw Gen over cause that motherfucker doesn't care how people see him.

[@estfatul744]

@@solomonbacon8893 they why hal being his lil secretary bitch

[@Vncenzzo]

Hal and Zero have absolutely no accountability.

[@slylockfox85]

Stop talking like they are equally responsible. This is 80% Zero at the least.

[@Valarizator]

next kid mentality right there.

[@ElsePerson]

@@slylockfox85 They are equally responsible because Hal didn't do anything but cover for Zer0

[@jmorales6539]

Hal truly is the CEO. Crying Every Opportunity

[@sage3583]

Zer0 gotta be the one saying all this

[@Okdude445]

Notice the lack of apology

[@sleuwi]

I mean is anyone surprised? Zero with the worst personality in apex and hal is 140cm long with a ego so big he's almost normalsized

[@thuggwaffle8825]

Hal’s a great player but I can’t stand the dudes personality. He’s 25 but still acts like an iPad kid.

[@soccerguy2433]

He is an ipad kid

[@JaJaJonnn]

Look at his wrists.. beta

[@HelloMyFriend_]

That's the effect of being an iPad Kid

[@cliftonmurphy2885]

He looks 35 lmao

[@ethanstein7617]

Yup Hal completely snaked his friend and is now trying to use any excuse to save face 😬

[@iiZAPPx]

Verhulst new CEO

[@dronghar5751]

zer0 might be making hal doing the dirty job

[@lordmarkquad4470]

hal is glazing zer0

[@Lethia277]

I could see it 🤔

[@ajahharris2796]

Hal was lying to make himself look better . What a shocker

[@aldinonanda8404]

did you watch the whole video ? gen literally said that hal was just in the mixed of it, hes not the real issue. gen and hal was right, people who only watch and read rumors always think they know everything lmao

[@ajahharris2796]

@@aldinonanda8404 Hal said " gen was already looking for a team" ......genburten literally paused the video and said "that's a lie ".......he himself said Hal is lying lol

[@ErenYeager-w8m]

@@aldinonanda8404 yeah i heard the hal rant how he was talking about org and visa problems dude this mf could have told his friend informly that he was being dropped and that he should be prepared that what friends do so he was def trying to look himself better and he is a rat

[@CK321S]

@@ajahharris2796 JUST DRAMA DUMB

[@ohpeep3723]

​@@aldinonanda8404Hal is always like this, brother. No hate to him, but he always makes questionable excuses after doing something controversial.

[@claytongiron4541]

Zer0 was gens teammate for 2/3 years and is the one who made the decision, shouldn’t he be the one to let him know???

[@G0buckigaming]

Dude has some maturing to do

[@Bengyelly]

Which dude?

[@G0buckigaming]

@@Bengyelly Hal of course

[@youngrootv]

Most of them do. A LOT of them act like children

[@renzbay123]

definitely Hal

[@2georgre]

@@G0buckigamingyes! All of them 😂

[@aldinonanda8404]

Drama Legends Global Series you do what you gotta do when the game is dying i guess

[@KLBL-dp8mc]

Truth 😂 watching a bunch of people who don’t touch grass try to figure out how to navigate workplace communication just ends in teenage drama.

[@Spike-_-x4]

Yessir 😂😂🤣 Hal the pro of yapping

[@GorillaGuel]

Casual apex dying , esports not necessarily

[@MacheteYeti17]

@@GorillaGuel casual dying leads to esports dying no?

[@tyrellturner5602]

This game has been “ Dying” For like 2-3 years now🙄

[@flyinchancla3545]

Gen is gonna shit on them in champs. I’m here for it

[@lizhang9807]

you can still tell gent he was getting dropped without announcing it publicly....if it was for visa. what hal says makes no sense

[@CK321S]

no can't dumb

[@Wormboderpepe]

yeah, the whole situation is so snakey. and all the hal stans defending him "it´s zer0s fault.". it just shows they don´t have any experience in a comp setting. people/players talk to eachother all the time. especially teammates. nothing stopped hal to tell gen he´s getting dropped, so hecan look out for a new team in time. hearing this from an "enemy" is just the icing on the cake^^

[@maeonion]

@@Wormboderpepeits both hals and zeros fault

[@ryantylerMachete]

Nickmercs drove gents pro apex career into the ground

[@lizhang9807]

@@ryantylerMachete lolz. gentrified and genburton are two different person ...

[@Jorgenitales9999-z7x]

why is gen not talking more about zero, zero should have been the one to tell him being that he was gens long time teamate.

[@casull2041]

normally people don't want to talk about personal issues openly 😂

[@pikabiga]

He knows how Zero is. But he expected some respect, at least from Hal. Zero has done this before to Ram and their old coach. I think someone mentioned they did this to Xynew too. No responsibility or professionalism at all. Good luck to Gen

[@ryantylerMachete]

He addressed it for a second, basically said he doesn’t want to air it out publicly but they have had issues for a while

[@soccerguy2433]

SSG won LAN knowing they were breaking up after the event.

[@stuckwchuck]

Gen really seems like the most chill and real dude in this whole situation man. These guys call themselves men while snaking and lying their way to their next paycheck.

[@aussieguy9070]

Hal could have saved face by just saying “hey man, I’m really sorry for how this all went down. You’re a great player, a great team mate and unfortunately it was handled terribly. Hope we can maintain comms and I hope you have success in your apex career”

[@ferro1398]

Sounds corporate

[@anonapache]

because content

[@salvest3rr]

@@ferro1398 sounds honorable something hal will never experience

[@LeMimePug]

The sign on the back should be change to Snakes instead of Falcons.

[@aerozumi]

Justice for Knoqd 2.0

[@medoxnee5472]

Hal= ImperialSnake

[@DiegoSantos-yk9xv]

That's excactly what I wrote yesterday. They just could have done both.. Tell Gen but don't tell falcons. Stupid lie.

[@kurisuuu0]

I love watching Hal but this looks like a case of ego and lack of respect/accountability. Zero appears to be acting shady too.

[@rudy-b5h]

Hal fanboys are insane 😂 yeah ZERO is the main guy in the wrong but lets not act like hal is innocent either.. he knew and he could've told gen straight up about what was going on

[@b3to653]

facts 😂

[@zephrflux1673]

Hal and zero deserve eachother RIP wxltxy

[@SoggyyDoggyy]

It has nothing to do with Hal wanting to f**k over gen and everything to do with Hal showing no respect to his teammate and same for zero I think it's pretty messed up that they never told him

[@JustDeacon]

God, this is like Primary School antics.

[@bluyxx6482]

both hal and zero both needa go down, hals got a massive fuckin ego.

[@AmpedLab]

i can’t believe Hal is getting so much heat as if he didn’t come on as the 3rd & join them. Why is the “new guy” at the center and you aren’t talking to your oldest teammate 😭

[@svgarpaws]

because he himself put himself at the center.

[@DopaMineConnor]

Most of the people who pay attention to this stuff are 12 year olds with extreme bias. They wanna blame him

[@Apexskyborn]

6:43 might be the funniest part of the whole video 😂😂

[@flintburner6313]

Apex pros try to actually talk to their teammates Challenge: IMPOSSIBLE 99.99% Fail.

[@AxeAfrika242]

Hal really is the CEO... of RATS AND SNAKES!

[@renzbay123]

After all this, I dont understand why he still has fans.

[@SauceyBeans]

Bro Hal is new to the team lmao, This shit is 99% on Zero not Hal

[@AxeAfrika242]

@@SauceyBeans He said himself he was involved with the decision. He was talking with ZerO and Falcons behind Gens back instead of looking out for him. On top of that he left TSM for Oil money and money only...

[@SauceyBeans]

@@AxeAfrika242 Did you even watch the video? They had Hal handling a lot of the administrative stuff, likely due to Zero being on vacation and Hal having experience in leading a team and making those things happen with TSM. However, Gen literally says in this video that he knows Hal wasn't even the person behind wanting all of this to happen, and that he knows Hal felt bad because he went out of his way to check up on if he was able to find a team. Hal was brand new to the team, he isn't pulling any strings on his own, at one point Hal thought he would get dropped. You're just hating cause he left TSM🤣🤣 try to at least pretend to be unbiased lmao

[@SauceyBeans]

@@AxeAfrika242 Hal is literally getting all the smoke for all of this when it should be Zero but because Zero hasn't been on stream, Hal is the one catching all the heat. Hal was just doing what they asked him to do, it's that simple.

[@atSLASHY]

the fact that hal has to do damage control for zeros decision while he says nothing really says something

[@JaimeMartinez-se4jx]

Probably got paid to do it too lmao

[@freebandz4332]

Zer0 has his thumb up Hal's ass.

[@cameronjosemacleod2810]

i hope all the best for gen actually a good lad

[@JayRyanNYC_]

the irony in hal saying that when he’s legit put his opinion into situations that he himself was not a part of lol, this guy is a joke honestly his fans will continue to say he’s right he’s not wrong but he is he could have just open with gen from the start even if it was zer0s idea hal went along with it could have easily just told gen not to tell falcons i mean if gen had the vibe already wtf is the issue he has a vibe you guys are going to drop him so why worry about the team dynamic if it falls through he already had a feeling

[@AnderLouis]

Zero is probably having some kind of pill comedown.

[@petercruz1993]

I miss the old Hal that had never touched a woman & had a bowl haircut and a hunch back. That was peak apex when he was on M&K

[@igorferreira1997_]

that was really fucked, cuz as a friend you would at least give a heads up that was going to happen. Like it was probably not about wanting to fuck gen over, but it's like not giving a shit

[@MeMooshh]

Hal and Zer0 should’ve been transparent that they were even considering any change as a team. Hal knew they were and should’ve been honest and open with Zer0 from the start. Nobody here is innocent and that’s okay, you can still like them; but you can’t play the “good guy” card everytime for Hal. (And especially not for Zer0 after this)

[@Cokerz-d8i]

I think what’s important to remember is that while Genburten is correct in saying “They could have just come to me and told me their intentions, without letting Falcons know” one must remember that Hal did this with TSM Reps and Evan, he told them before Split 1 ALGS Champs “Yo boys, my contract is up and we need to perform or I might leave” It messes with the team dynamic when you put these things public. Gen needs to calm down, he’s not even watching the whole clip. Hal is correct here.

[@freebandz4332]

I get that, but when someone is BLATANTLY asking you what is going on you need to be truthful. Anything else is lying to their face. At best you can say Hal was withholding the truth or bluffing until the time was convenient for HIM and ZER0, not Gen. Hal lied to protect the "business" of his team, he probably thought it wasn't personal, but it's always personal.

[@Cokerz-d8i]

@@freebandz4332 This wasn’t Hal’s call to make, he’s been very open about that. It’s very childish of Zer0 to rely on Hal to be the one who tells Gen. Understand that Hal has been open about his mistakes with his previous teammates and probably didn’t want to repeat the same. Zer0 should have stepped up and been the leader of the team, like he’s supposed to be. Hal is always sure to follow things by the book, and when you’re making the kind of money that he makes.. can you blame him? No point in risking a multi-million dollar contract over some BS right?

[@freebandz4332]

@@Cokerz-d8i Highly doubt that contract is even up to 100k. But yes, if Hal was just his coworker then it makes sense why he'd make a cold business decision like that, but Gen clearly considers him friend and he just screwed him over like that. It's effed up.

[@Cokerz-d8i]

@@freebandz4332 No no, the contract is big. You’re thinking about yearly salary… That’s not how sports work, they sign a player to their organization for “X years for X dollars” in Hal’s case, Falcons is entitled to revenue from his stream (which pulls 10K plus viewers at any given time) i’m sure it’s in the millions. We will never know for sure, but it’s high, he’s the face of professional ESports right now and has been for some time.

[@Apexskyborn]

Imo this was zeros call and the fact that he hasnt come on stream(that i know of) and said anything about it really shows zeros character and his ability to be a true leader of the team. Hal isnt the head of this team he was brought in less then a year ago and now is taking the front of this hate for a team that isnt even his. Im not saying hal is a angel here but this was def Zeros call and he needs to take accountability for all of this drama

[@Da5hDa5h-wc9uc]

Imperialhal gaslighting like crazy

[@matthewfairchild3846]

Hal says to use your brain to believe him lmao that ain't how brains work He's always so unwilling to admit any culpability Way too old to be so immature

[@agentcodybanx8909]

Zer0 the fuckin snake. Thisnkinda stuff could be expected by ahal but for zero to play with gen for so long and not have enough respect for him to let him know whats going on

[@2kjuky]

All breaks up are the same lol “he said, I said, that’s not what happen, you don’t understand ” 🙃

[@SkyBlasterOG]

Hal living long enough to become the villain

[@attice_yt8448]

Why isn’t Zero saying anything?????? Also Hal ain’t explaining shit, they didn’t respect Gen, they considered their self interest first and almost fucked over Gen which is a fact. Man up lol

[@badassmexican9479]

This is the equivalent of being mad at a coworker instead of the boss for firing you lol

[@coryfalcone8373]

Hal goes through teams like Dellor goes through keyboards.

[@lordCarni]

Bro Hal taking all the heat for zeros decisions 💀

[@raulladislau427]

actually makes sense the first point, we all thought ALGS was going to be on november/december as always, and it s on february

[@rinz5027]

See? How hard is it to just come up and tell him and explain the context.

[@theBROWNbanditP]

6:55 This was the moment I wanted to hear. Did not disappoint.

[@PartOfTheGame]

5:22 that was my immediate first thought was why didn't they let him know but keep it on the down low until things they were worried about went through? Snakes dude. Snakes.

[@GaryColeman5640]

Imperialhal try not to burn bridges challenge: Impossible

[@ALLOFTHEBOOST]

Gen is so lucky he got a team. Imagine if he didn't. Wow.

[@khanhji4933]

Everyone has been hating on Hal for years when he's one of the most rational Apex players. . . . Praying on the W of Falcons

[@Criitty]

Gen new ceo

[@jm9762]

Man Gen is such a fucking dope dude. Bless up wish you the best

[@michael08269]

I felt so bad when Evan talked trash about Hal, but after seeing what he did to Gen. All i can say is Hal truly deserve it.

[@Bengyelly]

What do you people be talking about just wanting to hate.

[@brandondean5680]

You didn't watch it clearly. Hal got stuck in the middle of this, its between zero and gen😂

[@ErenYeager-w8m]

@@brandondean5680 yeah i heard the hal rant how he was talking about org and visa problems dude this mf could have told his friend informly that he was being dropped and that he should be prepared that what friends do so he was def trying to look himself better and he is a rat

[@youknowwhoiam6164]

@@brandondean5680makes too much sense, but don’t tell that to theses kids 😂

[@brandondean5680]

@@youknowwhoiam6164 The bronze kids see hals name automatically jump on the hate train. It's the only thing they can do since they can't get past bronze

[@y0gurt193]

We should all agree that some pros are just only good at the game, not necessarily good at being a person.

[@zentnium3801]

7:38 Yes Philip we absolutely do believe that

[@Ralffy1]

going out of your way to fuck someone over & fucking over someone by being negligent aren’t the same thing but very similar.

[@arctictropic1147]

Hal being a terrible person to Verhulst, and now a terrible person to Gen??? Guys, I'm starting to see a pattern here

[@LeMimePug]

Rly? Since the time with Mac and Snipe was the same behavior.

[@giovalladares1022]

@@LeMimePugSnipe has no issues with Hal and Mac said he was in the wrong. Hal is definitely partly responsible this time but Zero is the #1 problem

[@renzbay123]

Props to Reps for having nerves of steel but Verhulst not being able to handle Hal’s toxicity is totally understandable. I like TSM right now so healthy

[@allgood9912]

@@renzbay123did you just now start watching TSM play through yt shorts ? Verhulst was spitting fire back at him when he was acting like a little girl not even that long after joining ☠️

[@allgood9912]

@@LeMimePugdude is literally chill with both of them and evan what are we on about

[@frank10pez94]

I think Gen doesn’t understand what Hal meant by ALGS changing roster lock dates. I think he’s saying that because the lock was so early they weren’t going to drop Gen at all and it probably wasn’t even an option. However, when the date got extended that’s when they started exploring things. I do think they should’ve told him tho

[@ashen99]

At this point I don't even care who was in the wrong, the amount of drama and jeopardy this will bring to Champs will make it the most exciting competitive has been in a while

[@zodiackeeler9169]

So hal if timmy wasn't such a stand up guy and told him, then when was you two losers gonna tell him hmmmmm you literally was gonna wait til he couldn't get a team

[@goofeegem1422]

Damn and just like that can even fk with Hal & zero… great apex players, god awful teammates lol where’s the compassion & respect for their mate

[@biggiecheese2004]

Hal didn’t even fucking tell him. TIMMY DID

[@IKniveZI]

The fact that hal could have messed it up "worse" in that hypothetical situation by telling him a day before doesn't mean hal and zer0 didn't mess it up 6 days before, whether it was intentional or not. And it was timmy who told Gen 6 days before. So how can you take credit for THAT? What kind of flawed logic is hal trying to use here? That isn't going to work.

[@edz3592]

Dayumn, this is straight up high school drama, but in apex. Anyways, time to wait for the next episode of hal reacting to gen reacting to hal reacting to gen. 😂

[@AzzyXIII]

respect to gen for being mature about the whole thing, you don't see that too often in the apex scene lol

[@samwisegamgee233]

Falcons full blown bad guys arch

[@Intrepidusone]

the roster lock thing does make sense, if the lock was Earlier they'd have played champs with Gen then made the decision but because ALGS moved the Lock then Hal and Zer0 decided to make a Decision then, the whole thing Gen said about "come tell me you might Change me out" maybe they thought if it doesn't work out that they can change then Gen's mental might be chalked going into champs because he knows they don't want to play with him end of the day it was just a bad situation. how Hal explained it that they were trying to dot the i's and cross the t's in terms of orgs(Falcons and Moist) because of Contracts and Buyouts makes sense imo Yes Gen not having long to find a team sucks, but if the Business stuff Hal mentioned they were trying to cover their bases on took that time then they can't help that much the ending comments about "the Contracts for other champs teams were already locked in" also makes it sound like he's more salty to not be on an Org team with a Salary than actually getting dropped

[@xGamesMasterxHK]

To be honest, Hal can't explain here. The person who really should stand up and explain all this is pretending to be dead, so now it seems that the conflict is between Gen and Hal. Zero, who really did this, never said a word from beginning to end, and then asked Hal to bear the pressure of public opinion. Of course, Hal also did it.

[@obieswan]

this is gens hero arc story. we ready.

[@HAM_An1mA]

Ofc he got f*cked over, he doesnt have any leverage when teams know he got kicked. Specially when it happend last minute and teams have their roster locked.

[@Rice--0]

when zero start streaming i hope you guys have the same energy

[@rickyg8750]

I like Gen. dude knows he making boatloads of money and won his trophies he the only one chillin being a real one about everything

[@ninjabrenfeiro9584]

Damn, apparently they will be milking this drama till Champs

[@donoi2k22]

Gen is good but he died first A LOT in lan. Hal’s saying it’s not performance is actually just being kind to his former teammate and not fucking over his future. Waltzy is so fucking good and was clutching up a lot in Mst. I honestly think this super team will be super super.

[@salvest3rr]

super teams in video games are not real

[@f_qa9241]

Dude, they didn't wanna talk to gen because they thought that falcons where not gonna do gens Visa. But he also said that they had to ask falcon about dropping gen first. Didn't he just contradict himself or did falcons already got gen his visa at that time.

[@TheMidgetHarry]

Not really, the initial plan was to wait for visas before telling Gen, but the visas were taking too long. That forced their hand in just telling Falcons because roster lock was approaching

[@Tzofeh]

ALGS is slowly turning into WWE lmao

[@sherry-erial838]

To summarize Hal's argument, he had to get a visa before he could apply for a roster change with Falcons, and if Gen was removed, he might not be issued a visa, so they waited for the visa to be issued, but it took a long time. And since Falcons' headquarters is in the EU, there was a lag in communication. Also, if they were unable to acquire him, they planned to delay the announcement because they would have had a conflict if they had told Gen about the roster change. They were able to acquire him, and they tried to tell Gen, but his birthday was coming up, so they were reluctant to tell him, so they decided to delay it again, but Timmy told them. I think it's actually close to an excuse. But I'm a little worried about Gen only contacting Hal. He should have communicated more with Falcons and Zero. Maybe Zero and Falcons were trying not to contact Gen? In that case, it was right to contact Hal, but they should have told him that. Zero should also be more proactive in contacting the members.To summarize Hal's argument, he had to get a visa before he could apply for a roster change with Falcons, and if Gen was removed, he might not be issued a visa, so they waited for the visa to be issued, but it took a long time. And since Falcons' headquarters is in the EU, there was a lag in communication. Also, if they were unable to acquire him, they planned to delay the announcement because they would have had a conflict if they had told Gen about the roster change. They were able to acquire him, and they tried to tell Gen, but his birthday was coming up, so they were reluctant to tell him, so they decided to delay it again, but Timmy told them. I think it's actually close to an excuse. But I'm a little worried about Gen only contacting Hal. He should have communicated more with Falcons and Zero. Maybe Zero and Falcons were trying not to contact Gen? In that case, it was right to contact Hal, but they should have told him that. Zero should also be more proactive in contacting the members.

[@ItsIceyyy]

Imagine being on the most winningest team with the same guy for YEARS winning absolutely everything there is to win on the game together and making countless memories but when hard times happen and you want to swap him out for someone else you don't even have the decency in yourself to tell them about it upfront. Zer0 is a spineless coward

[@ryanlafferty5815]

ditching gen is gonna come back to haunt them

[@BoogalouJenkins]

When it comes to apex I don’t wanna hear no talk about superteam no more. Also lol when gen said what did he say??😮

[@lawlietriver8869]

This is on Zer0. He is being a shit leader. Hal is taking all the heat because he actually speaks on things, is more famous and frankly there are SO many that just need anything to hate him for. If this happened on TSM back when he was the one person everything was built around, then he would have been to blame. That person is Zer0 in this situation.

[@clifft2269]

Gen looking best in this situation no matter how you spin it. The biggest L is now Zero and Hal have even more pressure to win. Got rid of the "problem" right?