Gender, Journalism, & Justice | with Helen Joyce

[@morganghetti]

I was one of the people / men who wanted the support trans rights because I assumed it has no effect on me or anyone else. It's not something I really thought about. People like Posey Parker and Joyce explaining the impact on women from women's perspectives has really made me question my position on it. It's much more complex than I originally thought. These interviews are very much appreciated.

[@janrobson9247]

morgan ghetti Me too

[@j_freed]

For some, equality can only be reached when a select group has all the rights. Because that is a ludicrous goal they cloak it in fairness and kindness - while eg. falsifying information about suicides, other 'harm' that one is to blame for _if one does not unquestioningly support the ideology..._

[@montycantsin8861]

When Joyce mentions how, mathematically, if you make one false statement, everything afterwards is false, is one of my favorite ideas from logic: Ex Falso Quodlibet. It means, "From Falsehood, anything follows".

[@thebibosez7949]

Her grasp of philosophy does seem rather poor - she asserts that self-referential (circular) definitions are invalid, yet she seems oblivious that they play a major role in things like Godel's Incompleteness Theory.

[@private15]

Yes Monty. Don’t let others twist words to try to breakdown an important and true idea. DeepQ. Just because you say 3 things that contain the same 2-3 words does not make your statement have any meaning nor does it contain any argument worth thinking about. What a bunch of nonsense. The Bibo Sez. Just the fact that you mention a famous philosopher and a theory named “incomplete “ does not mean that circular arguments have any value in defining anything. You are leaving out a lot of important information from Godels incomplete theory. Don’t think that a reference like that can negate and hour of deep conversation.

[@thebibosez7949]

@@private15 Here are some other self-referential statements that you and Joyce contend are meaningless simply because they are self-referential: "I consent to sex." "I am hungry." "I want new shoes." "I am a wammin."

[@montycantsin8861]

@@deepqantas uh, no. That's an aristotelian syllogism, and you've made a valid argument, but your premises aren't sound. Besides, the moon is a globe. Nice, try though.

[@montycantsin8861]

@@thebibosez7949 yeah, from what I understand, that bugs some people in math and physics, but it's so complicated. We're still babies, Cosmologically speaking... there's so much we don't know.

[@cristop5]

This lady is one of your best guests to date. Engaged, sharp as a tack and with a maths background. I'll be looking out for her book.

[@Fee_V]

cristop5 ...yup! Agreed. Will be looking out for that book also. x

[@RonnieD1970]

I cant wait for her book. James Lindsey is also in Mathamatics! I am adding her to my favorites.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

FYI, I interviewed James early last summer: A Postmodern Postmortem | with James Lindsay kzbin.info/www/bejne/ineliKx5mNyNgZY

[@irisward417]

Are you texting during the interview? Please don’t, it’s distracting.

[@es8059]

I was also a mathematics major and had the same issues as she does. The illogic of the ideology is maddening.

[@rmbroadwell]

She's brilliant. Her point about circular definitions was so clear and obvious, and yet a point I haven't heard made in this issue. I'm always tempted to share conversations like this with my teenager, but I'm so averse to brainwashing kids that I hesitate to "brainwash" her against being brainwashed 😅

[@Alex-dj3yq]

Education isn't brainwashing, and if you don't get to her someone else will.

[@chandrakai2450]

@Rachael B. ...Teaching your daughter to think for herself using logic is the opposite of brainwashing. The only reason to avoid it is if you fear she will start recognizing fallacies in the belief system that you adhere to.

[@nanjones6947]

Get a grip ,just let her know there are two sides to every story,she won't like it ,teenagers never do do,but its important that she is getting your take on things,God knows how many other people are influencing her .

[@DonnaBrooks]

There's a difference between brainwashing and teaching your kids critical thinking skills! Part of the reason we are in this situation is that EVERY institution, except for maybe some religious institutions, has been captured by this ideology so that kids never hear anything else! There is so much pressure on these kids that they can't question the narrative and they hear no one else question it. Ask your kid to watch this with you and give you her opinion and tell you what she's heard in school and from peers. Parenting isn't brainwashing!

[@j_freed]

It's strange if you think all new information is brainwashing and propaganda. But it's good to have in life a critical mind and a grasp of epistemology, to dispel untruths and useless conjectures. Consider that entire 20th century societies have been controlled by propaganda… You must safeguard your mind to it.

[@PozoBlue]

What a fantastic discussion. Helen is so clear-minded and insightful... and delightful! Immensely looking forward to her book.

[@MartinBlack]

Excellent, one of your best videos Benjamin. Helen has such a clear, rational, compassionate voice.

[@Dr3Mc3Ninja]

This lady served up a fat plate of knowledge with a generous side of wisdom.

[@MandyJane123700]

Every once in a while I'll watch an interview and think "that's my favorite one" now here I am thinking it again. This was really really interesting. I would love to see more about how these once worthwhile organizations have become the opposite of what they used to stand for. I would love to hear more about the audience capture mentioned in regards to media and feminism. I also agree that there is a place in all this where the left and the right can come together. We don't have to agree about everything to agree that the health and safety of children is important and worth protecting. So often I see comments saying something like, "the feminists are getting what they asked for", but you know that young girl crying about having to change in a mixed sex locker room isn't getting what she asked for. She didn't cause this insanity, but it is people her age who are paying the price, no matter who is to blame for it. Mistakes have absolutely been made, and we have to work together to fix them. I hope you talk to Helen Joyce again someday.

[@youcantdiealonewithcats]

Agreed, I think the same thing almost every time I see a Benjamin Boyce video. Helen Joyce and Ben Boyce together is just an amazing combination of minds. Both seem very humble, balanced, capable of nuanced and critical thinking. And most importantly, curious. Their endless curiosity results in so much wisdom and intelligence, and their willingness to question everything is quite rare these days. This is a conversation we've been needing to have for some time now, on a public level. Collectively. And they are both fearlessly starting that discourse despite the risk of being labeled bigots and nazis, transphobes and terfs. And they ask the questions and have these conversations in such a kind and empathetic way. I also agree we all need to put our differences aside for the sake of children's well-being, if that is something trans activists care about. Personally I believe most do, are generally well-intended but also misguided, heavily biased, and too quick to say we can't talk about these risks and issues on the off chance it hurts someone's feelings, even if it means children will be harmed because of that silence and censorship. I too see lots of comments almost exclusively from men claiming "feminists are getting what they asked for". Which sounds like a typical victim-blaming mentality to me. Like they do to project blame onto girls and women for our own sexual assaults and harassment and abuse. Now, men are invading women's sports, shelters, prisons, bathrooms and changing rooms where our little daughters are most vulnerable....but somehow of course it isn't the fault of those males..it's the fault of women! Those damn feminists!! Yes, women fought for equality. But this modern gender ideology is *not* feminism, it is a perversion of feminism. Women wanted equal rights, protections, and opportunities as men. We never wanted to cease to exist, indivisible from men. Which is what gender ideology is trying to do. "Woman is indefinable, woman can be anything, an endless void". Yeah, definitely a male-centered definition of womanhood, there.

[@grahamejackson9445]

I’ve been watching BB for some time now. His interviewing technique is growing alongside the quality of his subjects...a talented man.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Kind words, Graham! 🤜🍻🤛

[@stevenstainbrook1064]

I have been too and I agree, it's been very pleasant watching him evolve. But I still like young Evergreen Benjamin and his hats. 🙂

[@grahamejackson9445]

I miss the hats...

[@dragontoro]

Rationality - what a concept! Thank you, Helen and Benjamin. Just loving listening to you discuss this issue.

[@emmiebl6605]

What a fantastic interview! Helen is amazing: so clear, articulate and humorous.

[@reallycoolguy121]

Listening to Helen gives me that pleasant feeling that things will get sorted out. What an asset it is to have such a sensible, well-spoken person on the side of truth and rationality. :)

[@katerwaller]

I cannot wait for her book to come out! A deeper analysis of this issue and how we got here is so needed at this time. The individual conversations around this are so difficult because of the orthodoxy and absolutism around what is progressive. Then add in the ignorance of so many to the details of gender ideology, the orthodoxy surrounding it, and how the activism is playing out. In my conversations I try to find common ground around issues of human rights. Then if that goes well, I bring up some troubling situations such as women being banned from Twitter for affirming the reality of biology vs. the non banning of trans activists who threaten physical violence toward women for not capitulating to their "trans women are women" mantra. I do it not to get agreement, but to make them think about their own assumptions. I guess you could say I am trying to provoke a peak trans moment, maybe not from what I say in the moment, but from what will result from them exploring this issue for themselves and conversations that ensue from that exploration. I think Helen Joyce's comment of the reaction people have to trans athletes as a "gross overreach" is spot on. What started as a human rights/human dignity campaign has gone completely off the beam, overboard. If you have her on again, I would love to hear her thoughts on the radfem emphasis on patriarchy and how she thinks that plays out in the oppression wars. Some people of color are starting to push back against this narrative of people of color having no power, no agency, and that is a really good thing. I think women need to do the same when it comes to how we define womanhood and how we feel about the issue of bullying and name calling and how we react to those two things. Anyway, great guest, great interview, I hope you have her on again - maybe after the book comes out!

[@DonnaBrooks]

What a woman! Articulate, brilliant, confident, compassionate, good w/ both math & language, able to understand people who are different from her, a keen observer of U.S. & UK politics, fearless, strong in her convictions w/o giving the slightest hint of being angry or combative or adhering to a predictable ideology. I'm very impressed. I watched your second interview with her and liked it enough to immediately come look for this one and this one was outstanding. Could you imagine how much better off the U.S. would be if it were filled w/ rational people like her instead of ideologues ruled by emotions, and hating their political opponents? I'll have to look for her book in our library system & if it's not there, I'll ask them to order it.

[@fluffymcdeath]

Figured I couldn't be the only one who noticed the circular definition - but so many people I've argued with seem to be able to hear it and wriggle around it while pretending they didn't hear me say it.

[@cynbaddavis2398]

This woman os my Hero. Thank you so much

[@sarawiseman6872]

Richard Dawkins did tweet about transgenderism once, a few years back. He posed the question "is a trans woman a woman?" He answered, in terms of chromosomes, no. But as a matter of courtesy, he would refer to a trans woman as a woman. He did receive backlash for this tweet. At the time, he was making more waves for being controversial and he had some health issues (a stroke?) which may have been attributed to stress. Since then, he has tried to stay out of controversy. I have heard that this decision was made consciously for his health.

[@markkavanagh7377]

Exactly, The Guardian is corrupted, I still miss it but you know, good riddance to the bad rubbish it has become.

[@albatross4920]

Joyce n' Boyce

[@PSTroise]

What an articulate, reasonable, compassionate person.

[@pezlover88888]

Benjamin Boyce I appreciate your interview skills and style.

[@Beansproutts]

I met her and attended her workshop! She is so lovely, as is her colleague Andrea.

[@manbearpig7521]

Is she Irish? She has a lovely lilt to her accent.

[@Beansproutts]

@@manbearpig7521 yes I believe she is.

[@user-ld7uj9pv8e]

A proper professor. With brains and logic. Great to see her talking. Only read her stuff to date. And want to get her new book.

[@helenspielbauer644]

I broke down and cried at about 45:40!

[@MartinBlack]

God, yes, a heart wrenching segment.

[@anarchist_parable]

The bathroom thing always get relegated to being unimportant but it's very vulnerable. Just the nature of how women even urinate, having to take their pants all the way to their ankles and expose half of their body, we can't just run off if we're attacked. I take my boy toddler into the women's a room with me because it's safer for both of us. If it's just me, my infant, and my toddler and a man tries to act out, there's really nothing that we can do about it.

[@lisao6928]

This is the first time I have heard anyone say "they're sterilizing gay kids."

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Hard to deny when you put it so bluntly

[@lisao6928]

@@BenjaminABoyce Yes! I'm so glad she put it that way. I can't wait for the book.

[@RonnieD1970]

Amazing guest! Omg Phd in Mathamatics! Incredible conversarion

[@carolinesmith1]

Love her!!

[@marcomac8824]

Fantastic interview! Subscribed and very keenly looking forward to more quality content.

[@georginawhitby1320]

This is brilliant. You are brilliant . Helen is brilliant. Thank you both .

[@kenhiett5266]

This is how well fed cats hunt. Half-heartedly

[@Stopfief]

Great interview, and reminder of that Twitter incident with Jolyon Maugham. What a massive let-down he turned out to be. Holy shit.

[@marketgarden22]

That was a brilliant interview - Helen is amazing. I am buoyed by her unbowed spirit, her intelligence and grace.

[@johnstlawrence5246]

I don’t know when I’ve seen Helen so giddy before! Can’t wait for the book!

[@EM-cg4iy]

You’re doing great work, Benjamin! Thank you for introducing me to this wonderful woman.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Thank you Elizabeth!

[@drmodestoesq]

Re: On this side of the gender spectrum we have people who like playing with trucks. Oh, like the Queen of England who was in the Auxiliary Territorial Service during WW2. And drove and wrenched on trucks?

[@Ao456kl]

Helen you are awesome. Loving this.

[@Jssssssssssssssssds]

Never heard the arguments put forward in such a clear way before. Such a great communicator. Looking forward to hearing her views on other topics

[@stevenstainbrook1064]

Great interview...thank you Helen, you have clearly articulated what a lot of us have been thinking, but not been able to concisely state.

[@jillturner8680]

Helen has articulated much of what I have been thinking. Superb interview. I look forward to her nook.

[@KillerBebe]

I never thought of it that way, to be an SJW is to throw reason out the window.

[@manawahinekorero9534]

...or even contribute to the Housework for goodness sakes. I find it telling that the men who say they 'feel like a woman' don't have an attack of wanting to mop, or run around after the kids, or prepare the family meals, or do the washing...ya know...what us women are simply expected to do every single day on account of our being actual women. *hard eyeroll*

[@pseudonamed]

You know a trans woman has AGP when she spends more time shopping for clothes than her wife and insists her children call her ‘Mom’ but doesn’t want to do any childcare related work. Her idea of ‘womanhood’ is just a pretty fantasy

[@ovenlovesyou]

It's been said many times in the comments, but I feel compelled to reiterate: fantastic discussion!

[@MrMurph73]

I'd love to see more talks with this lady

[@brigittelechner5318]

Neurobiologists say the Self is constructed from internal and external data and liken the process to controlled hallucination.

[@edoboleyn]

49:15 Sadly, there seem to be quite a lot of people who, in that cultish mindset, silence and shame detransitioners.

[@kerrinnaude2777]

"Part of sexuality is 'having everyone validated'" - totally nailed it.

[@kilroy1964]

Great interview! Amazing guest!

[@v.c.de-beaupre2855]

Helen Joyce answering Boyce's question about how does one re-conceptualize what it is to be female: '" We're doing that, but we're doing it outside of Gender Studies departments". Yes, it's less foggy outside of Gender departments ;)

[@j_freed]

24:00 - so in what way have Transgender people not got 'rights.' They just be themselves... it's not the right of activists to tell everyone else that isn't Trans that they can't also just be themselves, that they have to participate in all these acknowledgments and observances to 'support' a tiny minority population. It's so like the emperor's clothes, and for the intelligent public it has the opposite of the intended effect of creating respect. There's no emergency here the general populace is required to respond to _en masse._

[@chagal3299]

She's cool.

[@ienekevanhouten4559]

Great talk Ben. I can hardly wait for the book!

[@johnbrown4568]

I have no idea how I missed this interview...but, very happy I found it. Thank you Benjamin...

[@BenjaminABoyce]

This is our first of two-with one more to come!

[@dandiacal]

It sounds like she's in part writing a work of straight up analytic philosophy which would be most interesting if that is the case.

[@blackcrazydog]

Thank you both for this wonderful interview! I'm with Helen in her disappointment with the atheist/skeptic community and their silence on these issues. Any respect I had for people like Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins has gone down the drain. I think there are quite a few reasons why they won't address this clearly cultish and pseudoscientific ideology, that has infiltrated all levels of society including academia. The mildest one I can think of is cowardice.

[@pseudonamed]

blackcrazydog exactly! They don’t have the balls to actually admit what they really think cuz they know the consequences

[@EM-cg4iy]

I’m afraid they have waded into too many jungles and don’t want to touch this one for the blowback, or don’t worry about it since they are men. I’ve been disappointed too. I do love them.

[@innovati]

D-d-d-did you say ”Boyce of Reason”?!

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Thank @BretWeinstein for that one.

[@annamariposa6959]

I love this channel AND my favourite part of it is the the little cat at the beginning! Not always just sometimes.. keeps me clicking and excited if the kitten is there !! 🐈‍⬛

[@geraldiana]

At 1:03:00 she just summed everything up perfectly.

[@manbearpig7521]

How can the anti-psychiatry movement keep quiet about this travesty too?

[@thepontiacbandit7874]

Because they might lose their license. It’s simple self preservation.

[@manbearpig7521]

@@thepontiacbandit7874 jeez....the bullying is through the roof

[@thepontiacbandit7874]

@@manbearpig7521 It sure is.

[@playingwithdata]

45:20 - I'm sure Sam Harris has mentioned the free speech aspects of people being shut down/de-platformed for questioning aspects of gender identity ideology on a number of occasions. He hasn't made any lengthy position statements on the matter but I get the impression he's open to finding a productive line of conversation about it. That's not a simple thing to find though.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Does Sam ever have guests on his podcast? If so, why not ask him to invite Helen onto his show??

[@zootybeano]

Best yet on why we all have to have a gender identity, even kids. Validation.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Are you trolling or just stupid?

[@catrionanicthamhais]

This was great! Thanks.

[@TheBuggeroff]

look at that cats SHINY fur, those mice must eat nothing but caviar all day....

[@hamesparde9888]

What a beautiful cat!

[@DR_Neal_Rigger]

If you want an interesting read, check out an article by Marshall Kirk (called) "The Overhauling Of Straight America" (1983 I believe).. modern journalism at it's most distilled, but decades ahead..

[@DR_Neal_Rigger]

Oh, and try to find something that hasn't come true in it..

[@rustys6301]

Thanks! This is great!

[@katrinafitzpatrick8386]

Come to Ontario, Ben.

[@guusvandermeulen7210]

For non native English language people, she speaks very very fast.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I slow down playback to .75 🙂

[@purplenurple6202]

Hi, Guus. Helen is Irish. We are native English speakers, but notoriously fast ones!

[@farapipsqueek636]

That is so funny. I am a native New Yorker, and to me, she speaks at a perfect speed

[@DonnaBrooks]

@@purplenurple6202 I was traveling years ago & took a group trip into the bus with people from several different countries. One guy was British, and I could NOT understand him! And I'm a native English speaker. He just talked so FAST!! But I could understand her alright.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Click on the gear symbol in the lower right side of the screen and shoce a slower speed!

[@iunderscoream]

At 30:00 it reminded me of Trump: he won't date or marry anyone close to his own age, and he insists that the women around him alter their appearances to look younger. (Botox, surgery, makeup, etc.) As someone in my 30s, it's absolutely true that I worry that I will stop being useful/valuable to society after 65 years of age. I'll have gone through menopause and I'll (hopefully) be retired. What will I contribute? Will it be valued by the men around me?

[@sage271]

Wonderful. Thank you!

[@shadow.banned]

Substack. More than middleclass. Surely there's gotta be millionaire/billionaire funders backing their favorite journalists behind the scenes cause the numbers are incredible.

[@TealiaAida]

Fucking love Helen Joyce!

[@prestonpaulzubal4593]

Have nothing constructive to add. This was a great conversation! Just wanted to throw out sam Harris talks about this shit a fair amount. But it is curious that the whole crew isnt talking more about it

[@cynbaddavis2398]

Do you know Parker Posie? Hope so

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Posie Parker | No Country For Opinionated Women kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHaQpnp-icdooZo

[@cynbaddavis2398]

Posie parker. Lol. I mean

[@MegaGraceiscool]

1:06:30 there it is

[@liammccann8763]

I'm a middle aged Irishman. One key aspect of our Irish nature, is that we are not afraid to provoke debate while at the same time reminding you that we may be incorrect i.e we are not God. I agree with much of what Ms Joyce expresses and also disagree which many of her views. Nevertheless sooner or later the Truth emerges despite us and although it is possible to distinguish gender from sex, it is impossible to separate them. Ne Timeas.

[@j_freed]

Good intelligent interview, great information. She does step on Benjamin's last word quite a bit, I'm often replaying to decipher what was overlapped.

[@bott3849]

The future of journalism is podcasts. The future is nigh.

[@Don18376793]

Helen commented "why aren't the new atheists all over this" They were, back in 2012 when atheism plus tore apart the atheist community.

[@HarryBalzak]

Many people play the game of life one move at a time. Ideally, you should be looking as many moves ahead as possible, like chess. A simple move is never as simple as just that move. You must also take into account what that move will lead to and what that move will lead to, etc. If you do not look ahead you will think you are making the right moves even when you are making the worst moves.

[@TheMary0831]

Excellent interview.

[@bakermiaz]

I think she is right about so much but wrong about ."how did we get here" and that somehow feminism is the key to fighting against it. This all started with feminism and the "Gender is a social construct" BS

[@bakermiaz]

@Lisa Lightrider Yes of course sex is not the same as gender but feminist have been pushing the belief that there are no innate differences between the sexes except for the genitals for years now. It follows logically then that surgery to remove or change those genitals can transform you from one to the other. www.researchgate.net/publication/237118472_The_Socially_Constructed_Body_Insights_From_Feminist_Theory1 www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/15/girls-boys-think-same-way

[@Fee_V]

Hmmmm. Yes, but what started feminism.

[@johnstlawrence5246]

Gender as a social construct was coined by John Money. Meanwhile, feminists have been opposing this for over 40 years. #TheMoreYouKnow

[@johnstlawrence5246]

@@bakermiaz “ feminist have been pushing the belief that there are no innate differences between the sexes except for the genitals for years now.” No, that is not the argument of Equality Feminism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_feminism

[@bakermiaz]

@@johnstlawrence5246 I gave you link to the feminist theory paper plus the link on how it is all over the media as an accepted fact

[@davidring13]

Great podast/interview. I was surprised there was no mention of Douglas Murrays excellent recent book on the subject. These two need to talk, is he one of the 30 people she follows I wonder. It would be good if she could build on Murrays work but I hear that she wants to tell her story. It is very encouraging however to know that there are people like you guys doing this important work. Have you had Douglas on? I will check your other videos. the few I have watched are top class, thank you very much.

[@thebibosez7949]

21:00 Joyce assails the Christian Trinity because, she asserts, one can't have 3 in 1. Oddly, all baryonic (normal) matter is composed of 3 quarks in 1 nucleon.

[@drmodestoesq]

Newton was also anti-Trinity. But of course, he had to keep silent about it because it would have had a catastrophic effect on his life.

[@MrJasnotron]

Id, ego, superego. Body, soul, spirit. Its not even close to a 1984 style concept.

[@sameash3153]

Well, I think that depends on how you are conceptualizing it. Are you thinking of a nucleon as a set of 3 quarks, that is, the sum of its parts, or are you thinking of the nucleon itself as equivalent to each individual quark? I would imagine she would say that one set of three is not equivalent to all three entities being one thing; though, the difference is admittedly kind of a thin line, as surely each individual quark couldn't exist without the other. To be clear, I think even the wording of your initial comment displays that you also view it one set of three, acknowledging the difference between the one and the three.

[@thebibosez7949]

@@sameash3153 I am not sure I grasp the distinction you are positing. My point was that Joyce was irrational in her arbitrary dismissal of the Trinity since, she claims, it is ludicrous to have three-in-one. Every bit of visible matter in the universe contradicts this but then, women are not noted for their prowess with either science or religion. Had she said something from a female area of expertise, like, "it is ludicrous to wear a bra with a bikini" or "it is ludicrous to wear pumps and running shoes at the same time", then she might have made rational sense.

[@sameash3153]

@@thebibosez7949 The trinity is not a set of three smaller components. Your phrasing, "composed of 3 quarks" is not a trinitarian wording, but a modern set theory wording. The trinity is coequal, triunal; it is not father + son + spirit = God, it is father = God = son = God = spirit = God. So are the quarks in a nucleon separate entities or are they each the same entity? Are they a set of three or are they a set of one? I don't think you're going to sit here in a straight face and say here that one of the three quarks itself is the nucleon, in the way that Christ himself is God. My point is, I think you're being disingenuous thinking that she doesn't acknowledge that sets of three exist. What she obviously disagrees with the trinity about is the triunity. I think your further statements about women in science and theology also reflect poorly on you.

[@MrJasnotron]

I think if our problem is that definitions are unclear and being blurred that you can DIRECTLY tie it to the redefinition of marriage. Marriage as recognized in the west by law has been specific and geared towards securing an environment for children and their 2 parents. Redefining it legally has a direct impact on society. This isn't to say that I don't think everyone else isn't entitled to be protected by law and to have their assets and medical decisions extended to who they choose to partner with. I fully support those rights for all citizens. I personally think that marriage should have been completely separated from government and replaced with domestic contracts and marriage left to the church. Just my .02.

[@davidprince1138]

Let us perform a proof; Given x = 1 let x = y equalize both sides of the equation by multiplying both sides by y statement is represented as xy = y^2 equalize both sides of the equation by subtracting x^2 to both sides statement is represented as xy - x^2 = y^2 - x^2 simplify statement statement is represented as x*(y - x) = (y + x) * (y - x) remove the common denominator of (y - x) statement is represented as x = y + x substitute x with original give of -1 statement is represented as 1 = 1 + 1 statement solution us 1 = 2

[@Tina06019]

The murderers of Stephen Lawrence, who was killed in 1993, were finally brought to justice in 2011. The two men were convicted of the crime.

[@MrJasnotron]

Perhaps the new atheists aren't as rational as you previously thought ? I think the discussions between Harris and Peterson moderated by Murray/Weinstein helped show there are far deeper issues to explore than the 4 horsemen have addressed.

[@alexs6250]

This is a good interview AND there is a cat.

[@flyndutchmn]

I thought her shirt was Pac Man for a second!

[@bobobonobo759]

How did I not realize Ben is foremost a journalist?

[@BenjaminABoyce]

What did I appear to be before?

[@multitopic1908]

@@BenjaminABoyce Like Alan Whicker

[@blugreen99]

The next group is theMAPS community. They have their own flag and lobby.....ALLYN WALKER ,JUDITH BUTLER FOUCAULT CLIFIA ETC .

[@natei6524]

She looks like Meryl Streep.

[@Teddypally]

11:25 "we all know what it means to inhabit a social role". That's also a "circular definition". One cannot understand a fallacy by using the same fallacy to examine it. Also its called circular reasoning, it's nothing new to the human experience. Calling something that's free a new name to sell it isn't ethical. The realization that you are prone to circular reasoning isn't worth money to others.

[@gilchamame]

That's not a circular definition, and "circular definition" is not the same as "circular logic". Neither of these are strict terms but simply use "circular" as an adjective. You literally have no clue what you're typing.

[@Teddypally]

@@gilchamame I literally have no clue what you're typing. All I hear is: you're wrong and you're wrong because you're not right because an adjective is an adjective. That would be a circular argument. ps. have you considered whether 2 people can say the same thing but in different ways? Is it your belief saying the same thing in different ways makes what thing they say different?

[@katequinn9384]

Fair play to Ben at 32mins. Excellent question.👍

[@TFYFWYA]

You seem very skeptical of the concept of oppression in general. I wonder what you would call the power structure that allows males to force their way into female spaces, get women fired from their jobs, assault women without repercussion, compete against women in sports, and get them cancelled from speaking. It's not something that happens by coincidence or luck, and we certainly aren't doing it to ourselves. Who has the power to make it happen? Why are they making it happen? What IS this called? And in what other areas does this (whatever it is) manifest?

[@BenjaminABoyce]

I don’t think you can form a healthy worldview based on a single factor. But I got more interviews in the subject coming out.

[@TFYFWYA]

@@BenjaminABoyce it's not about world view. It's a question about this, specifically. I've read and watched tons about it, and am more than comfortable with my own analysis. I'm not looking to find my own opinion. I'm asking what you think :-)

[@BenjaminABoyce]

Allow me then to rephrase: I do not believe a group of people can form a healthy worldview by making oppression the single greatest factor of existence. Cf my Evergreen documentary for a story of a community that did just that.

[@TFYFWYA]

@@BenjaminABoyce but I'm not suggesting that oppression is the single greatest factor of existence. Not even sure where you got that. It was a pretty straight forward question. If you don't want to discuss it you could just say that.

[@BenjaminABoyce]

I shared my position on oppression twice. The first time you thought I was talking about you, so I rephrased it. The second time you again thought I was talking about you, but I’m not. I’m saying that I am skeptical about oppression because I have seen how an over emphasis on it causes unhealthy group and personal behaviors.

[@briansullivan8610]

Nice backdrop.

[@immortalsirens4644]

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[@MoonBurn13]

This whole issue is perfectly encapsulated in the logo(!) of the WoLF organization, which depicts the archetype of the Wolf of the Eclipse stretching its jaws from heaven to earth, as it begins to consume the sun - or the moon - or the earth, a World, in the darkness of the Female. Feminism has been consuming the world in the darkness of its “female future”, for decades. The Wolves of the Eclipse had a brother, the Cosmic Serpent (all children of a giantess whose smile brought dread upon all who beheld it). Just as the World Worm encircles the world of Men - it has nothing left to devour, and begins to swallow its own tail. So just as “WoLF” is about to utterly destroy the world of men and the light of civilization - it fetches up against the Alphabet mafia, child of its own making, its own excretions.