Gene Simmons Of KISS Sure Loves To Lie About Ace Frehley & Peter Criss.

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[@sarcastanaut]

If I had to be around Gene and Paul I'd be on ALL the drugs ALL the time.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Nonsense. They didn't HAVE to be with Gene and Paul. They were not married 🤣.

[@sarcastanaut]

@@HappyMachorino-bd8no Did you seriously just say "nonsense" to my comment? Clearly, you've never been in a band before.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

@@sarcastanaut Peter was 27 when he came to KISS. A married man. And all of a sudden he starts 🥃+💉, because of a 20 years old boy👶Paul? If it's not nonsense, than it's totally absurd 🤣. Paul had not much to say, Sean Delaney was the man! And when Gene made fun of Peter (illiterate), was it difficult to ask Lydia to teach him to read and write? Lydia said in an interview with NYRocks: "I told him, Peter, you're an idiot!". His wife knew him better. Peter took his stuff🥃💉 because he was an idiot! I'm not in a band. But at work I have two front officers and a team leader. They expect everyone to "improve". To have discipline etc.: "Gene and Paul"!🤣

[@sarcastanaut]

@HappyMachorino-bd8no sounds like if I worked in your office I'd have to be on ALL the drugs ALL the time.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

No problem. We have a so called health management. They can help. ​@@sarcastanaut

[@eddiecatflap3838]

I am amazed in 50 odd years nobody has beaten Simmons to a pulp

[@andrewwolczyk5777]

Bodyguards. Believe me, many guys wanted to. Gene is an asshole.

[@muziktrkr]

@@eddiecatflap3838 Paul thought Gene was obnoxious the first time they met. Gene got into scraps growing up in Jackson Heights with a heavy accent.

[@eddiecatflap3838]

@@muziktrkr I bet Gene has never gotten into a single physical fight in his life.The only fight he has had is fighting to keep that gopher pelt glued to his head.

[@lynsmith8947]

@@eddiecatflap3838 I laughed way too hard at the part about his hair LOL

[@andrewwolczyk5777]

“Nobody is funny when they are drunk” Tom Snyder would disagree.

[@mikewilson3581]

"Tell me about it!" Ha! Ha!

[@lynsmith8947]

I know I sure as hell disagree! That interview is comedy gold. Ace was absolutely flexing on Gene and Paul, showing them up, and their fragile little manchild egos couldn't take it. It's rich to hear both Gene and Paul constantly bringing up Ace and Peter's drug/alcohol use, like they both committed the ultimate sin, yet every KISS fan with half a brain knows they both went around fucking everything with a pair of tits and a pussy -- and documenting it, in Gene's case.

[@zevongrie1402]

Ace plays the trout. Hahahaha

[@ivanthecheese9119]

That is a classic interview

[@hipstereagle6050]

And in Peter’s book he recalls Paul telling him in 2004 that “corporate” wants to go in a different direction when it was really Gene and Paul who were ready to move on

[@mr.brenman2132]

By other direction they meant a cheaper yes man.

[@acorn-yy1gi]

@@mr.brenman2132 Or, better performance.

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@acorn-yy1gi Peter was playing close to the best drums of his career in 2003. Better performance? Do you think yes is Rush or something? 😆🤣 The fans want to see Peter. They owned the makeup so they tried to fool the fans with an imposter.

[@brianloftis8284]

Paul and Gene ARE Corporate!

[@Karl_Burton]

@@brianloftis8284 At the time, yes

[@bailey___zm]

Another lie I'm tired of is the "peter criss played like shit on the dynasty tour". Every bootleg recorded on the tour proves otherwise

[@acorn-yy1gi]

I saw them twice in 1979. Peter was inconsistent.

[@mr.blackwell5423]

@@acorn-yy1gi BS! Peter was STILL GOOD in 1979! But he WAS unprofessional at times. He, himself, admitted to it. Paul, the infantile whiner, on the other hand, was WAY MORE inconsistent & sloppy on the Dynasty tour. And sober, no less! Everybody mentions 1973-78 as the ultimate KISS years. I'd actually add 1979 as well. The 1979 Dynasty tour was the ultimate PEAK for KISS. The show was a BEAST! And the set list was RAD!

[@shandonsahm3343]

​@@mr.blackwell5423I agree

[@jamesmcaulay4656]

@@bailey___zm I seen the Dynasty tour on August 4 1979 in Toronto at Maple leaf gardens and they just smoked . Peter was killing it . I think gene Simmons and Paul Stanley just quietly disliked the rebels in the band . Ace was the one that endured the people because of his laid back attitude.

[@michaelseay9783]

Gene should be made to walk around with The Elder costume on for the rest of his life 😂

[@DevilFish69]

🙂

[@kevinschoenfeld6294]

Every Gene Simmons interview: "I invented this and that, go to kissonline, Ace and Peter were drug addicts,I wear make up more then your mommy, we wanted to be the band we never saw in stage!" And my favorite, "It's all about the fans." Rinse and repeat!!

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

And it really pisses me off when Gene says bands like AC/DC, Iron Maiden, RUSH, and others became popular only because they opened for KISS. I mean really. Watching the Iron Maiden video concert Live After Death, that show would destroy anything KISS would have thrown at the audience. Lots of bands have always put on better shows than anything KISS could have ever dreamed of.

[@LB00146]

​@@stanlee-eq7luI agree

[@Sabundy]

You know.......for how useless and worthless Ace and peter were .....Gene and Paul sure never stop talking about them. Its like that guy that never stops talking about an ex.

[@paulosicne8498]

"My sh*t don't stink" Hahaha!!

[@c.d.scalemodels9198]

Hey Ralph Chris here….. I’m a huge KISS fan since ‘77 and I’m 52 years old now. All due respect but Gene has been playing this card for sooooo long that it’s beyond tired & has been for a long time. There are no secrets about Ace & Peter’s chemical dependencies….. it’s well documented & they have moved on from it. Gene NEVER brings that up though, the good should be discussed as well as the bad but it’s easier to bring up the bad because most people will remember the bad. Everyone has a flaw of some kind & Gene’s flaw is greed & power. Maybe he doesn’t consider that a flaw because he’s not hurting himself but him thinking he’s better than everyone is a flaw……. He’s shallow & selfish….. move on Gene…… you’re no better or worse……. You’re just sober but you’re flawed too…… you leave a bad taste in my mouth and this comes from a lifelong fan too!!!!!!

[@flazjsg]

I love those photos, especially Rush with Peter Criss.

[@seagullpoet]

Tremendous photos.

[@LarryFleetwood8675]

Funny to see how badly the make-up was applied on in the early days, back when they still did it themselves.

[@kevinchandler179]

Well, God rest his soul, Neil Pert loved Peter Criss and was very good friends!!!

[@michaelmckenzie6311]

Ace is the cool Uncle in the family!

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

As pertaining to Gene, we had a slogan in high school for bs artists - Wipe your ass, your breath smells.

[@Karl_Burton]

He called us not jabbed enemies. Never to be forgotten

[@josephhartman3880]

We don't deserve to walk among them!!!👎

[@DoktorRotwang]

Further lies: In his own autobio, Gene tells a story of accidentally eating some magic brownies and yelling at a diner waitress. There are also pics of Gene BITD drunk off his ass. Point two: Ace was more interesting drunk than Gene has ever been sober... ask Tom Snyder about that.

[@funnyuniverse1]

Magic Brownies 😂

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

It's not a lie. Gene was not high. He was psychotic. As far as I remember, he was quite small in this trip. He didn't enjoy it! On the contrary. It frightened him. Not everyone gets "high" on drugs. Indeed Ace was more interesting than Gene. The "mystique" he has was fascinating. And I felt his despair. It was not his humour. It was the unhappyness BEHIND the comic. His (hysterical) comic was his mask🎭. It looks like he personally wanted to be Tom Snyder's darling. Not KISS! Ace PERSONALLY wanted to be Tom's "one and only". Very homoerotic. But not "normal". Ace is funny. But you feel: there is somethjng wrong BEHIND THE MASK 🎭. But you don't know what! Which childhood tragedy? Does he feel like an Indian? Is it German "Weltschmerz"? Absolutely interesting.

[@retarteddwarf2182]

Chaim Witz is a true putz.

[@gatotenango]

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@Daviscole-ym7jb]

Brilliant statement are you a rich putz? You're welcome ❤

[@retarteddwarf2182]

@@Daviscole-ym7jb No, but Chaim Witz is. Economic status does NOT determine one's putzness. A school marm in a demon outfit does. PUTZ. Just ask Totie Fields. lol...

[@mr.brenman2132]

Didn't Gene tell a story that he accidentally ate a bunch of pot brownies at a party once? Never been high? Another lie.

[@muziktrkr]

On Family Jewels, Shannon had him drinking, so the “never had a drop of alcohol in his life” claim is BS.

[@DoktorRotwang]

Yeah, it was in his autobiography.

[@purodude93]

His wedding he had champagne ​@@muziktrkr

[@Daviscole-ym7jb]

He didn't know they were pot brownies, knock it off! Get your facts straight dude.

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@Daviscole-ym7jb He's said he's never been high once. Learn how to listen and read!

[@Mr.Timwell]

I knew about them selling Kiss branded alcohol, but Kiss branded WEED? That i find hilarious

[@stanleybroniszewsky8538]

I'm surprised Gene didn't create a few CDs of himself talking and sell it on the official KISS merchandise website.

[@moparsnguitars]

I grew up like many during the whole kiss Era way back. Ace was NEVER FIRED..Peter was voted out by 80 yeah they did..ace never was fired..In fact kiss had just signed to polygram with a 20 million dollar contract and ace then was quitting they ended up begging ace to stay in band because they lost I believe 8 million from label as result of ace quitting...everyone or most know Paul even went to ace house trying to get him to stay in band....ace was only in bang 73 to 82 .and as part of contract they reached in 82 ace did promo tour overseas for creatures tour..then he was out....ace left again from 96 till end of farewell tour...that ended I believe 2002 and that was it ace was never in band since...but gene n Paul love to downplay the real truth

[@topjimmy7996]

Meanwhile it’s happy hour at the Rock & Brews restaurant.

[@pablox5408]

Gene and Paul went to a hospital to tell Eric Carr, who was literally dying, that he was going to be replaced. That's the kind of people we're talking about. They just care about money.

[@acorn-yy1gi]

Tours are booked well in advance, and hundreds of people's paychecks depend on the tours and albums going forward. Would it have been that they write Eric Carr a letter?

[@stanlee-eq7lu]

What pisses me off about Gene and Paul is the fact when they did the video God Gave Rock N Roll To You with Eric Carr, they never used that version for Revenge, but re-recorded it with Eric Singer. They did that so not a single royalty went to Eric's family.

[@lynsmith8947]

@@stanlee-eq7lu Exactly this. Yet, in Paul's book, the guy has the balls to act like he didn't know why Eric's family was giving him and Gene the cold shoulder during Carr's funeral, yet appreciated Ace and Peter. And probably the biggest fucking lie in Paul's book was when he claims that Peter HATED Eric Carr - yes, HATED - because Eric had replaced him in the band, yet he had the gall to show up at Eric's funeral. As if his book wasn't a big enough smearfest, that part was when I'd had enough and stopped reading it. Just couldn't take the shit anymore.

[@JeffTullock-yx1hd]

It was so classy of Pete to show up for family solidarity. The Kiss Family.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

​​​​​​@@lynsmith8947 It's not "the biggest lie". There is a Swedish interview from the 80s. Paul said: Is Eric going to SURVIVE PETER'S WRATH? Eric looked nice, he didn't contradict or something. Otherwise he would have said: We are friends! They were talking about "Beth". Peter must have been very furious at Eric. He probably also hated Paul, because he "gave" his "Beth" to Eric. Then they continued making fun. This interview confirmes Paul's statement! Eric was talking more than Bruce. But he obviously agreed with Paul. Most likely Paul is right. He had to negotiate with Peter. And to experience his wrath too. There also are HEAR and SAY stories how Peter was shooting all over the place when Eric appeared with a companion (she was black). Did Peter hate Eric? Or did he lose control because the girl was black? It's more likely that he hated Eric. Two ex-mates of Ace claim, Ace told them this story. It's "hear and say", but it's plausible. Bill Aucoin described Peter as "paranoid". Vinnie Vincent, he said, was "very paranoid. But a different manifestation than Peter's"(Interview on KZbin). I don't say Paul is 💯% right. But everyone confirmes his version. Even Mark St.John's former manager. Mark and Peter worked together. Then, it must have been Peter who spread rumors about Mark's alleged interest in child porn. Peter's wrath? Why did he hate Mark? Most likely because of money. The manager avoided to accuse Peter directly. Peter and his mate Stan Penridge were divided and sued each other before Stan died. I don't want to disrespect Peter. But to call Paul a "liar" is really unrealistic. And information is always better than idolisation.

[@TranceMasterJack]

Hey buddy. I was hoping everything was ok with you when I noticed you hadn't posted today. Stay strong bro.

[@grindhousecartoons6896]

I THINK GENE IS OBSESSED WITH HIS SPECKLE!

[@feliciagallo9832]

I think you mean "shmeckel".

[@zandig666]

1st comment stay heavy !!!! Listen to Black Sabbath !!!! Not scab kiss !!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@agoogleuser992]

Kiss Rules

[@zandig666]

@@agoogleuser992 I think the band death blows them soo far out of the water they would be obliterated

[@agoogleuser992]

​@@zandig666uhh, like I said Kiss rules, if it wasn't for Kiss, most bands would have never existed , because they influenced most bands, like it or not

[@Scottocaster6668]

And as gene would say..: "Shmecklemagob!"

[@zandig666]

@@Scottocaster6668 🤣🤣🤣🤟🤟

[@hotboxxxexxxpress1509]

Peter Chris is probably the best dude out of the bunch.

[@rideon77]

Absolutely

[@acorn-yy1gi]

The guy that KISS roadies called the "Ayatollah Crisscoula?"

[@martymckinney8563]

Ever heard the rehearsal tape where Peter's being a turd? Nah- ask Doc how he liked working with dear o Pete...

[@DoktorRotwang]

He is. I met him and Ace on the Reunion tour. Peter honestly wanted to make sure I had a good time. I told him it was a dream come true for me and almost broke my hand shaking it.

[@Mrhasbarafree]

Peter seems to be at peace. Nothing bad to say about anyone these days. He's moved on and is enjoying life. Good for him. Letting go of 40 year old resentments is something Paul Stanley sure can't do. Life's short people. Being at peace matters.

[@grego7345]

I've always admired Gene's humility. 🤡

[@mr.brenman2132]

Ace didn't actually quit the second time. When he finished the actual farewell tour he just didn't come back. They of course begged him. Then Paul made up a story about how a mechanic inspired him to restart the band without Ace and Peter.

[@ajjy1110]

no he quit

[@almosthuman56]

it was a car washer than made Paul start KISS again. hahaha. Anyone that believes that is an imbecile.

[@renatamalvern670]

YOU ARE SO SO RIGHT, my friend, Ive been saying the same thing for years, Id love to tell Gene to shove a sock in it. Maybe you could do it for me !! 🇦🇺 Great job mate

[@kevinchandler179]

As a die hard Peter Criss, he really never got fired, because he wanted out in early 78, and they did the solo albums and the ridiculous Phantom of the Park movie, and then Dynasty, which Peter and Ace wanted out anyway!!!!@

[@SamuelKhan]

Who's the photobomb at 5:51? Pete Rose's stunt double?

[@KurtSmith-ks3zn]

Good job! Excellent perspicacity to cut thru the BS.

[@almosthuman56]

Much appreciated!

[@thebluesrockers]

Ralph, Ace Frehley is back on the sauce.. He says some shit that's way out there on this show. I know it's a rough watch but you need to see this one. If you can't get through the tunes then skip to the end of the songs. Because he does a lot of shit talking on this one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSzlnqkj9OJnqM This concert is going to be talked about all over the internet.

[@almosthuman56]

That show is the biggest trainwreck i have seen so far. I am not sure if Ace is drinking again. He may be on other stuff. No way that guy is sober.

[@thebluesrockers]

@@almosthuman56 I totally agree. I sure don't blame Lara for leaving him. Especially if he's actually hanging out with the "Hells Angels" I bet that would feel like you were hanging out with people off the "Jerry Springer" show. hahaha Poor women. You should do a video on this one while it's fresh & new. It would probably gather a lot of views & subs. Glad you watched it. Take good care Ralph. Peace.. Joe

[@jamesmcaulay4656]

In regards to people being funny when their drunk Ace was hysterical on the Tom Snyder show . Much to the chagrin of Gene as you could see his disappointment or disapproval because he has at times a stick up his arse .

[@jimmypage9198]

Amen Ralph 😀🤘

[@chrisrusso5427]

No not Gene!! Sounds like he wants to play with them again.

[@NickB283]

I think this entire thing is making a mountain out of a molehill, and I mean that regarding what Gene said and people reacting to it. Sure, I've known funny drunks, but that's almost always from a "social gathering" perspective. If you have to deal with an alcoholic that's drunk every day even the funny ones stop seeming funny because it's the same situation again and again and again. Not at all fun when you have no escape from it and you're trying to get some work done. I could be wrong, but Gene might just mean "I wish I'd have drawn the line early on with their behavior". Everyone that's ever dealt with addicts feels this way after the fact (both for their own sakes, and the sake of the addict). Don't get me wrong, sometimes Gene says really dumb stuff, but I think analyzing his every word literally might mean missing his overall point (which is true of everyone). As for "fired three times"... yeah, he's incorrect (primarily about Ace), but there were three "original member" stints and they all ended pretty chaotically, with Peter fired twice and utterly melting down the other time. Ace, by his own admission, was a wreck too. They definitely wanted him out, they just wanted to finish the tours first. I don't really expect Gene to go into the full details about every lineup change every time he speaks. While we're at it, Ace and Peter always talk about other people wearing their makeup and how disrespectful it is. It's funny though, neither of them minded when they were still in the band (Ace played with Eric and Peter played with Tommy). All four of the original members have said some stupid stuff. Eric and Tommy were hired guns and they knew it. We'd all have loved it if there was more of a fairy tale ending to the band, but oh well. We should just enjoy the songs and performances we like, skip what we don't (I never went to see them once Ace and Peter left but I don't complain about them being gone) and not hang on every word these guys say like they're coming down from Heaven.

[@D33670]

i think gene was honest but he went along with what paul wanted

[@victorblack6995]

With ACE on the tour they sell more tickets. Drugs or no drugs. But arguably MUCH better without. Leave the Rock N Roll to the SPACE ACE and leave the Drugs to the Kiss Army!

[@DevilFish69]

1:11 I love the look on Ace's face.

[@Hawiianlion67]

As a young man I’m wondering why a video about kiss news exists when this happened 40 some years ago

[@DrTomoculus]

Of course he's going to lie, because he lies to himself that sex and money aren't addictions.

[@ericmalone3213]

"Nobody is funny when they're drunk"? Hhhmmm. I seem to vaguely recall Peter O'Toole, John Barrymore, Judy Garland, Oliver Reed, Keith Moon, Ringo Starr, Harry Nilsson, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor, Sam Kinison, Barry Fitzgerald, Robert Mitchum, Lemmy Kilmister, Ozzy Osbourne, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, Graham Chapman, Vivian Stanshall, Eric Idle, Buster Keaton, Jackie Gleason... Just to name a few nobodies, who, when you think about it, weren't really very funny. Gene & Paul have been repeating the same tired out talking points for decades now. Considering they have access to powerful publicists, you'd reckon they'd have fresh sparkling new one-liner talking points to feed interviewers every single time they had to do press. But year after year, it's "Ace and Peter..."Peter and Ace... Ace and Peter..." "We have Kiss condoms and Kiss coffins, we get you coming and going." "We wanted to be the band we never saw." (Paul recently trotted that one out yet again, in a recent Gibson Collectors interview) OY!

[@ericcurry-pitcher5493]

I saw the tour with Aerosmith and they were way better than the reunion tour next tour, the farewell tour. The competition and money, made them try and it was the best tour since alive.

[@beatlehmann3424]

Didn‘t Peter had a Car Crash in 1978 - that’s why he didn’t played full Drums on his Solo LP & Dynasty ! Then finally he leave in 1980 because he had enough from touring & KISS goes Disco !

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Peter went "disco" too. With Stan Penridge. "Dirty Livin'" is quite disco influenced. And "I Was Made For Lovin' You" is unique. Desmond Child said, Paul brought Motown-like elements into the song. No disco song sounds like "YWMFLY". However, it's not the real reason why Peter left. Lydia left him plus his addiction etc.

[@scottamacker4481]

Gene is one of those people - and we all know one of these people - who can talk for a half hour and say NOTHING. And he says he's never one found a drunk person witty? Look at the interview Kiss did in Australia where they were introducing Eric Carr as their new drummer. When Ace points to the camera and says "Look! It's rock and roll!" both Gene and Paul almost fall down laughing.

[@thefinisher2010]

Hey mate, not wanting to be disrespectful, but you sound different , you ok ?

[@almosthuman56]

Not really. My Father passed away.

[@thefinisher2010]

@almosthuman56 sorry to hear that, please accept my sincere condolences

[@Misfitnz8]

Yes I was thinking he is just like Sammy then you said it. Yes I think so to.

[@DrumHeadBanger666]

''The Great $immons (Wheel Of Lie)''... The day he shuts his mouth about the past, he’ll show the world that he’s finally become a mature man! Till then, his song will be ''The Great Mandella (The Wheel Of Life)'' by Peter, Paul and Mary.

[@brianloftis8284]

The Ace was F’ed UP just the other night!!!🎉

[@toms4442]

It's Cold Gin time again!

[@seagullpoet]

Creatures - was a trick - for sure.

[@Coffeaddictedcinephile87]

Gene is worse than Blackie Lawless. That guy erases ex members after they're gone like bassist Rik Fox who actually came up with the name WASP. He also denies he was ever in NY Dolls when he did in fact play on their final shows for Johnny Thunders who was strung out on heroin. No matter how much Gene and Paul disparage Ace and Peter they will never erase their legacy from the band.

[@RoryCoop-vb1un]

Well I'll tell you the sober Ace was clearly fucked up at the concert here in Orlando Florida

[@Geraldo-ro9rc]

Peter was only fired once really.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

The discussion whether Peter and Ace were fired or not is not necessary. Because Gene only said: they were "in and out" or were "let go". He didn't say, they were fired. Ace could have died in the band. You think they didn't care? Ace could have died of his own self-destructive personality. As a member of Led Zeppelin he could have died too. There is nothing Gene and Paul could have done. Some addicts treat even their family members as enemies when they don't "support" their addiction. ACE BLAMES GENE AND PAUL ONLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT HIS ADDICTION. Paul mentioned in his book Ace's paranoid tendencies. That's realistic. Family members of drinkers know, when they try to help they become enemies, traitors etc. and experience physical and psychological threatening and violence. Therefore Paul and Gene couldn't help him. Ace needed professional help. Once he admitted: "I was my own worst enemy". So, whatever Gene may say now, he is NOT the scapegoat. Critisize Ace. He was the real "Destroyer" in KISS.

[@almosthuman56]

Let Go means Fired.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Gene didn't say "fired". "Let go" is respectful. As Gene would say: "gymnasium".

[@brianlundy3315]

I got unsubscribed from your channel again. This is the third or fourth time now.

[@DaveE-he1tm]

Peter is the only original member who has retired with class and style. Peter may have had his issues back in the day but he has really seemed to turned out happy. I love the original line up but the constant bashing each other is really stupid.

[@BeliaLastes]

Sorry but Gene & Paul don't know shit from shinola when it comes to Ace & Peter, sorry but KI⚡⚡ isn't KI⚡⚡ without Ace & Peter in the band 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@g-man-uz3gx]

He lied about the vaccine too🤡🤡🤡

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Next time ask a doctor. Not a bassist.

[@g-man-uz3gx]

@@HappyMachorino-bd8no or…. A bassist shouldn’t act like a know it all - and try to tell people what they should or shouldn’t do!

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

@@g-man-uz3gx They all tried to teach him: A Demon doesn't talk! In his recent interview Paul said: "Gene says many controversial things. I take it with a grain of salt".

[@jayjaytee9944]

R.I.P Gene Simmons August 25 1949 - sometime in 2001 = credibility well and truly shot for over 20 years now lol. Nobody is funny when they are drunk???? So sorry Gene but Ace on Countdown Australia and Tom Snyder was damn right hilarious!!!

[@BeauWorldWinnipeg]

Yes, you are correct. Only Peter was fired three times. Ace has NEVER been fired from Kiss. He quit twice. So why does Gene continue his narrative? I think I figured it out. Because if he confirms what Ace said, that Paul (who runs the band) never wanted to kick Ace out of the band, so Ace had to quit, that ruins the interviews about the End Of The Road tour, where interviewers said, "What about the Farewell Tour you did in 2000?" and Paul & Gene said they wanted to say farewell to Ace and Peter. If Paul wanted Ace to stay, and Peter did come back to the band for the Kiss Symphony and the tour with Aerosmith, then the "farewell to Ace and Peter" thing makes no sense. So we come back to this: Why did Kiss keep going, with Eric (after Peter's third firing) and Tommy, after the Farewell Tour? I read somewhere it's because Paul was getting divorced from his first wife and needed big money for alimony.

[@funnyuniverse1]

Gene is such a Goon 💀

[@robertangotti6014]

Funny part about KISS they are not and were not great business people. They also were never innovative. If managed correctly they would have been bigger than anyone. Sad, is the best description for them now.

[@philipholmes5884]

Anyone up for a good laugh ?... watch Ace live Orlando...6-21-24...😐...oh sorry 😂...I love the guy too...but please stop it...get some help ❤

[@theblueoctopus4494]

9:26 Is Paul wearing pantyhose?

[@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124]

Peter got sober in 1984 and he went into depth about going to an institution to quit drinking and drugs and quit smoking in his book. Peter explained that his old drug buddy went to visit him in rehab and Peter gave the cartons of cigarettes to the inmates because he didn’t need them anymore and kicked nicotine. He talked with Eddie Trunk about his sobriety in 2012 promoting the said book and said Ace was out of control on the reunion and also Paul and Gene were paying Ace more money than Peter and nearly quit the reunion until Ace decided to give Peter some money so that they would get paid the same amount of money. Plus Peter is a devout Catholic and a Christian and answers to God while Paul and Gene pray to the almighty dollar.

[@mr.brenman2132]

I know. It's completely nonsense. Peter had no substance problems during the reunion. They don't like anyone questioning them.

[@acorn-yy1gi]

Peters sobriety is 100% believable. 🙃 It was none of Peter's business what Ace got paid. Envy is ugly and wrong.

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@acorn-yy1gi If I remember correctly Peter said in his book that Paul had more pills in his bag then a pharmacist. He doctor shopped for those so it's different right? Ace told Peter what he was getting paid.

[@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124]

@@acorn-yy1gi Ace didn’t tell Peter that he was being paid more money than him until Ace called Peter to his room and told him upfront that Paul and Gene were paying Ace more money than Peter and to hide that from his closest friend in the band and practically a best friend is worse than BS it was dumb.

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 Uh so Ace told Peter like I said? If Paul and Gene did an equal split for the tour that never would have been a problem. Ace and Peter were there to be used up.

[@manolokonosko2868]

Gene has a point there, but he fails to realize that he and his boss Paula hired Peter Criss who was an even bigger disaster and should have never been admitted to the band. What KISS needed was a killer drummer like Eric Carr, not some old fart swinging the drum kit and pretending to be Frank Sinatra. His drumming skills were at best, pedestrian. By the time Gene and Paul found him, Peter was already old, broke, and about to find himself a job as the music career had tanked. When he was fired from the KISS, no other band rushed to hire him. That's how bad and unreliable he was. Ace had problems but not as bad as Peter's and brought to the band much more than Peter ever did..

[@ivanthecheese9119]

Seriously, I love all four members of this band but please stop pissing on Ace and Peter… Ace will stand his ground and he should, Peter is such a good guy he lets it roll of his back. The two are sober and in good spirits, maybe it’s best they did go to the last tour, their legacy is in tact. Gene and Paul they look like the fools in the end.

[@michaelloftin4799]

What about gene's sex addition?

[@TommyFlett]

Genes ego is bigger then Texas. Ive been a KISS fan since 75, and ive always hated Gene. And, IMO, Genes bass solos absolutely suck.

[@deathmetalrob5563]

Gene Simmons can't stand that Peter Criss has the biggest song Beth Ace Frehley sold more solo albums they're very jealous. Paul and Jean are greedy J's.

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Jealous or not, Paul and Gene were professional enough to control their emotions. And "Beth" was #7 with "Detroit Rock City". So Peter and Paul were together #7.

[@ronbroadfoot279]

Gene didn’t drink probably because he thought it would break his dear late mother’s heart. Who’s to say she didn’t drink? I drink beer, and so does my mom. We’ve never broken each other’s hearts.

[@CarnaLite120]

I would say there is a good reason to be drinking if you listen someone like gene whining

[@michaelbrock3262]

Gene needs to listen to born again & sabotage and quit talking.

[@alonzogallabon8629]

Gene has a long, out of control lying tongue.

[@robertbenotti]

Peter and Ace made their bed - twice. Ace - the same thing both times. He was a drunk, and his playing was mediocre the second time by the end. Peter - the first time he ended up a mess. The second time he couldn’t play (listen for what is missing folks) and became a headache. I’ve said it before. The lineup would have been Ace with Eric Singer with Aerosmith if Ace had stayed. They didn’t want Peter, but needed 3 original members.

[@antonioarroyo2347]

Gene and Paul has always been about them that's why I don't like kiss but there fan's think there awesome but that's why there still here don't get me wrong I like there music but Paul and Gene are asshole. Crue 4LIFE

[@waderogers9399]

Hey Gene Jim Morrison wrote better songs then Gene Simmons even if Gene lived 3 times and he was high as $#@^.🤘

[@HappyMachorino-bd8no]

Gene wrote "Deuce" and "Watchin' You" and the bridge for Ace's "Cold Gin" etc. Without 🥃+💉. And he became famous too.

[@alfonsoazcorra]

All I can Say Is .., pity All This Is happening, Gene Should speak less, Every Band member deserve respect, Like It or not ..

[@dr.roberts4508]

Gene attention starved

[@andyandrew7557]

Im getting sick of Gene putting down Ace and Peter. If it wasnt for Ace and Peter,Gene & Paul wouldn't have become Multi millionaire's in the first place.

[@luciferdzhugashvili]

Worst band in rock music.

[@tyeedwrds]

While he has the right to his own opinion and perceptions are personal, reality sometimes isn't in agreement. Ace and Peter drank and partied even before they joined the band. It shouldn't have been a surprise! While Gene and Paul were making money, they overlooked the issues. When their producer Bob Ezrin was coked out during recording sessions, they allowed it! I agree something should have been done, if for no other reason to keep them alive! If they had stayed in the band, there's no guarantee the band would have become as iconic as it has. A change was needed. It would have been great to see what Ace could have done in his prime and drug free! It would also be great to see what Gene and Paul could have been if they weren't greed mongers!

[@lancecrocket2391]

Ralph!! If this don't sound like gene missing his old band mates I don't know what would. Such a vapid skin sniffeler. 😅 stay safe my good jb. 👍