The 9 BEST Mapi Rivers in Victoria 3 & Evaluating Resources

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@numnumcat969 7 ай бұрын

"Children belong in the mines" -Generalist 2024 Cancelled by the vroom vroom car outside.

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

I'm only speaking the truth of the yearnings!

@BNRmatt 7 ай бұрын

25:54 "You just crank wood until you collapse."

@photinodecay 7 ай бұрын

"Build wood in other peoples' stuff."

@StrumpanzerFuhrer 7 ай бұрын

He did it. The people voted and the ABSOLUTE MADMAN did it..

@Bloise49 7 ай бұрын

The problem I have with MAPI is the fact that nobody 'profits' from it, thats a good mechanic to simulate the reality that you have to try to produce stuff locally to atend the market, but there is no 'trader' pop to transport the goods. Maybe they should bring some sort of 'economy' like this, the trade centers just profit from internacional trade, but they should profit from states trade also, maybe beeing part of the city levels, so when you have more buildings, the urban center grows and people work there profit from logistics. Ports should work to improve MAPI, giving coastal states a cheaper acess to trading goods. I mean, this is a nice mechanic, but needs a lot of improvement.

@SarlaccJohannson6445 7 ай бұрын

I wondered about this, but if MAPI price differences are absorbed as profits by a trader pop/corp it essentially makes low MAPI a good thing for the trader, and that trader gets less profitable as the game goes on. Historically I'd say generally railroads profited with more goods and more need for transportation as industry developed and specialized in different places. Maybe it would make sense for the local "real" price to reflect buy orders "travelling" just 1x state over vs many states away--and there can be kind of degrees to which MAPI affects buy/sell order multiple states away.

@Bloise49 7 ай бұрын

@@SarlaccJohannson6445 I initially though about this because some countries (the western powers) profited outrageous amounts of money by transporting the goods produced by the undeveloped world. Maybe they could place the goods produced inside the 'owner' state rather than the building itself, but that needs to create some king of need for transportation, you know?

@AdventurerPrimefire 7 ай бұрын

The problem is that many reworks to local prices will require more intensive calculations and would probably crush performance.

@nnjb3258 7 ай бұрын

> So this state evaluation is based on how _rushable_ the state is, since if youre playing well, eventually you'll get all of them anyway

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

Re time - I mean I don't think that's the right way to look at it. Snowballing is a part of the game. A lot of these states you wouldn't rush though because they cost too much infamy for what you're getting.

@wesfathauer5229 7 ай бұрын

@29:15 have you tried exporting oil to china in the early game? I've found that, if you can get the ball rolling, China will eat the demand for all whale oil. You will have ~+40% price with every US whaling station on clippers in the early game. It's finicky whether or not they want to advance to level 2 and snowball the demand, since China starts with no oil in their market.

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

I generally do that, but it's not enough to max out oil exploitation

@AdventurerPrimefire 7 ай бұрын

I like the whales too. It works well if you can get a treaty port in the opium war.

@pinstripes3333 7 ай бұрын

All questions regarding Victoria 3 strategy can be answered by saying “take South African gold provinces”

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

Really hard to underemphasize this, yeah. Also just that small things snowball. It feels small. It's not

@bargiona 7 ай бұрын

Have you ever read Ronald Coase? If not, I suggest "The Firm, The Markets, and the Law" (1988). It could spark interesting discussions and even ideas for analyzing the game; or maybe just a generalist ideas video. If such video already exists, I couldn't find it.

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

I'll check it out, but honestly my book backlog is HUGE rn

@shamneo23 7 ай бұрын

an hour video just about top 9 rivers.. lemme get my popcorn. im all in..

@154Kilroy 7 ай бұрын

I think Wallchia is my favorite of these states. At least to play as the country it is at the start, rather than to conquer. Its got a good balance of pretty much everything critical and is in a recognized country at the start. Plus forming Romania is fun. Also, I like how this was broken down into river regions with their individual states and just generally set up in a logical manner. Not the typical S through F tier thing.

@wilsonw13 5 ай бұрын

I kind of love how for a game about the age of industrialization, coal is naturally the benchmark in your sheet. Feels like the game got that write then.

@pelayla 7 ай бұрын

very interesting video, even though i disagree with some of the rankings

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

Watching speed: 5,000%

@faldziarzpintowski6685 7 ай бұрын

Literaly Literary

@hakonandreasolaussen1949 7 ай бұрын

I’ve watched the first 5 seconds of this video and can confirm I don’t agree with anything at all in this video

@superdark336 7 ай бұрын

I wonder how strategic regions hold up in a ranking like this

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

Top 5 would probably be among N./S. China, N. India, Pacific Coast and S. India. N. Germany and Persia (w/ like 200 oil) would also probably score pretty well.

@superdark336 7 ай бұрын

Id wager Poland could hold up pretty well with a good spread of resources and a lot of oil

@equilintogo5378 7 ай бұрын

Sichuan also has 15% (iirc) bonus for plantations along with opium Also q without u in Chinese is pronounced like ch, so Chongqing is pronounced "Chong-ching"

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

I believe that's included in there. Honestly that's how I thought I pronounced it, but that also sounds like how you'd pronounce it if you were trying to make fun of how it sounds lol

@ritabuba4831 7 ай бұрын

Lübeck all rivers conquest any% when?

@JimStorrie-v3s 7 ай бұрын

the nine sacred waters!

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

Ten, if you count the tears

@EmperorValentine 7 ай бұрын

One thing, 31:22; Punjab doesn't actually have opium, as a Sikh enjoyer this saddens me greatly. :( #GivePunjabOpium

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

ah, sadge, mb

@basileusfang811 5 ай бұрын

small thing, it's Jiangxi not Jianxi shown in the spreadsheets. Great job as always😎

@basileusfang811 5 ай бұрын

and Yunnan instead of Yunan, which all mean different places in China actually

@lazykatie42069 7 ай бұрын

hypothetically if I've already researched all the MAPI techs and incorporated the states (and am ofc not on traditionalism but who's on traditionalism still by the time they're getting tier 5 techs lol) I could just build whatever I want in states with these rivers right?

@generalistgaming 7 ай бұрын

For the most part, yeah. In theory you'd want to build the inverse of what is good to build in your non 100% MAPI states to give those states better building opportunities, or stuff in particular that is reliant on foreign imports for inputs or exports to create buy orders, as states w/ 95% mapi don't benefit from trade as much as the river states. Practically speaking at that point in the game you have 5-15k construction and MAPI is probably less worth focusing on as a guiding light than throughput and pushing buildings to 51.