They Lied to You about the ATAT Walker

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@Brickmovestudio
@Brickmovestudio 4 ай бұрын
The thumbnail looks like the picture your dad sends you from his trip to see the sights of famous historical battles.
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 ай бұрын
“Dear sarge, kicking ass in outer space wish you were here”
@RNemy509
@RNemy509 4 ай бұрын
This comment 😂😂😂
@EthanKironus8067
@EthanKironus8067 4 ай бұрын
Are you leaving comments like this on every video 😂
@Brickmovestudio
@Brickmovestudio 4 ай бұрын
@@EthanKironus8067 as many as possible
@OatesRR
@OatesRR 4 ай бұрын
Ikr
@Crimethoughtfull
@Crimethoughtfull 4 ай бұрын
"I still remember in 3369BBY..." ok old man 🤣🤣
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 4 ай бұрын
😂
@robertalix8147
@robertalix8147 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 4 ай бұрын
@@GenerationTech BRUH!
@oldmanjim2376
@oldmanjim2376 4 ай бұрын
Alan's been in stasis a bit, lol
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 4 ай бұрын
I think they were the space version of Hannibal and his elephant cavalry. I mean they used elephants as models for the AT-AT's in filming.
@isaackim7675
@isaackim7675 4 ай бұрын
The Empire should’ve added catwalks at the belly of the AT-AT with Trooper detachments to prevent those pesky Rebels from planting a detonator
@beejay7665
@beejay7665 4 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you. Echoes of Battle of Britain in the space-dogfights, Hannibal in the space-trench warfare. It they looked terrifying the first time they came out of the snowstorm on the silver screen
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
@@isaackim7675 Or just any armor at all.
@ghillieguy52
@ghillieguy52 4 ай бұрын
basically an elephant dressing up as an A7V lol
@Ryecrash617
@Ryecrash617 4 ай бұрын
LOL. The timing of an ad just took this video from interesting and entertaining to funny: Alan said "As one of the wisest men in Star Was said" then an ad with Gordan Ramsey came on with "How can a stainless steel pan be nonstick?" The timing was perfect.
@johnnelson4880
@johnnelson4880 4 ай бұрын
Mine was an NFL ad. So perfect timing. "Football is back!"
@Ryecrash617
@Ryecrash617 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnelson4880 Apparently the ad can actually add something to the video.
@scottthesmartape9151
@scottthesmartape9151 4 ай бұрын
And thus a friendship hath bloomed
@tedrex8959
@tedrex8959 4 ай бұрын
I believe that the First Order solved "The cable round the legs" problem by the highly technical solution of adding sharp blades to the shins of their Gorilla walker!
@skeleguna.k.adefinitelynot4656
@skeleguna.k.adefinitelynot4656 4 ай бұрын
in legends there actualy was a superior version of the atat that had this
@alejandronieto4212
@alejandronieto4212 4 ай бұрын
They also had them not skip leg day. Thicc legs take more than cables to be taken down.
@jdreyes3745
@jdreyes3745 4 ай бұрын
​@@alejandronieto4212Not to mention in the event they *do* get destroyed or otherwise mission-killed, they won't just topple over, making it easier to just salvage them later and maybe make them useable again.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 4 ай бұрын
Simple solutions lol
@azuresstuff
@azuresstuff 4 ай бұрын
iirc the late variants of ATAT had cable cutting blades on the legs too
@PK-Radio
@PK-Radio 4 ай бұрын
The empire made ATATs thinking their enemies would be horrified and demoralized as they saw hulking walking machines slowly lumbering towards them The actual reaction from their enemies was something along the lines of “why are a bunch of robot camels walking towards us” And or “I just had a really funny idea, you guys ever tied your friends’ shoes together in elementary school?”
@Mr2010forgeben
@Mr2010forgeben 4 ай бұрын
I can't tell if you're referencing the infamous British march, but if you are, then that's hysterical Edit: Battle of the Somme River, July 1st 1916
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 4 ай бұрын
The AT-AT is a walking fortress. Not supposed to let the enemy get under them. It's not about being powerful, it's about projecting power. Just like how castles used to work. They are the rook piece. The AT-AT was under imagined and underutilized. Almost all of its blind spots could be covered by a single junk gun. 😊 It even has room to store some magnetic, catwalks and ladders. No need for railings. The Emperor had OSHA dealt with. Then you can use them as literal guard towers.
@PatrickComley-1973
@PatrickComley-1973 4 ай бұрын
Did you know a storm trooper in the books about Star Wars cantina characters realized the weakness from the air. He was training to pilot a ATAT. During training when he noticed a fighter coming down on him he kneeled his ATAT to protect the walker. He was punished and sent to Tatooine and was the trooper who found the piece of metal and said ' look sir, Droids '.
@Adelina-293
@Adelina-293 4 ай бұрын
It's a flawed design as it's easily seen. A vehicle with a lower silhouette would be much better. In real armor vs. armor fights it's usually the first vehicle spotted which loses.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 4 ай бұрын
@@PatrickComley-1973 And he should have been punished. He should have sat the butt down, to get elevation with the guns. The biggest problem with Star Wars strategy and tactics is it's almost always written by people who are good at neither. So each side is kind of retarded.
@jaredwalsh9215
@jaredwalsh9215 4 ай бұрын
The AT-TE mounting the tank was to funny
@JonarusDraconius
@JonarusDraconius 4 ай бұрын
AND a perfect represtantion of 'rule34' in practise - If it exists, there IS porn of it! :P
@arturoherrera1386
@arturoherrera1386 4 ай бұрын
What would you get if an AT-TE that humped a Challenger II tank? What would the baby look like?
@Gen_ShadowCompany_203
@Gen_ShadowCompany_203 4 ай бұрын
​@@JonarusDraconius It would've been so much worse if it was Rule 34
@JonarusDraconius
@JonarusDraconius 4 ай бұрын
@@Gen_ShadowCompany_203 THe rule only states that "If it exists, there is porn of it" - The 'porn' doesn't have to be GOOD porn in order to count. Any crude depiction qualifies.
@BugRib
@BugRib 4 ай бұрын
@@JonarusDraconius - “Rule 34”. Gonna have to remember that one! 😂
@ericbouchard7547
@ericbouchard7547 4 ай бұрын
“AT-TE in a swamp.” Man, I do not want to be part of the recovery crew sent to retrieve it if it bogs-and you think getting one boot stuck in the mud is bad.
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
You would have to drop in and pump out a caissons just to free the foot, and you would probably have to build a bunch of caissons all the way from the water's edge to the walker, sink some pillars into those caissons and build a platform all the way out to the AT-AT. You might even need a dredging barge to do that. So, basically, to get the AT-AT out of the water you're basically building a bridge.
@titanium_viper0990
@titanium_viper0990 3 ай бұрын
@@iivin4233 Or... you know. Call in a modified LAAT to airlift it away...
@Unbr0k3nL0rd49
@Unbr0k3nL0rd49 4 ай бұрын
I always saw the ATAT walker as a mobile command battle station over an assault vehicle. Used better for tactical purposes rather than aggressive combat.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt 4 ай бұрын
Indeed, it's a shame it didn't "follow" in the AT-TE footsteps and carry an artillery piece... Hell, Artillery Walkers would be a nightmare to fight! Too bad we only have that Kenner Prototype and the First Order Compensating-for-something Gorilla Walker...
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 4 ай бұрын
The original first order walker seen only in the force awakens was basically a giant gun with legs.
@oldmanjim2376
@oldmanjim2376 4 ай бұрын
After watching Clone Wars, I'd have put the AT-AT as a C2 (Command and Control) platform with AT-TEs as the main fighting force with, of course, AT-STs as scouts. So, 1 AT-AT, 8 AT-TEs (new versions with better armor and armored turret) and 4 AT-STs per unit. Maybe modify the AT-AT design to add AA turrets on the top, and have TIE support
@Jeikobu
@Jeikobu 4 ай бұрын
@@oldmanjim2376 I've always thought of it in this situation too! I personally was so focused on the command and control it could provide, I didn't think about AA turrets on it too, that is a great idea!
@oldmanjim2376
@oldmanjim2376 4 ай бұрын
@Jeikobu thought about the air defense aspect while watching the video. One or two automated turrets or manned turrets would work
@gregleuze6657
@gregleuze6657 4 ай бұрын
The AT-AT was my favorite vehicle as a child and still is a favorite today. In regards to a ground army, there needs to be boots on the ground to hold whatever you take.
@M32Mirach
@M32Mirach 4 ай бұрын
I was not prepared for topless Tarkin
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 4 ай бұрын
That comic is hilarious
@isaackim7675
@isaackim7675 4 ай бұрын
It was Casual Friday, but Tarkin took that a bit too far
@Crimethoughtfull
@Crimethoughtfull 4 ай бұрын
Looked way too much like RFK Jr, tbh...HILARIOUS!
@charliedulin
@charliedulin 4 ай бұрын
​@@isaackim7675and no one argued with him over it. No one would dare.
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 4 ай бұрын
@@isaackim7675I mean dude gets in to a fantasy knife fight with a subordinate while day dreaming… he’s got issues
@ai-aniverse
@ai-aniverse 4 ай бұрын
But... But... the empire would NEVER lie to me!
@chrislaurent1137
@chrislaurent1137 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought so too until I learned the hard way about Operation Cinder
@ai-aniverse
@ai-aniverse 4 ай бұрын
@@chrislaurent1137 wish I could heart this lol
@johnathanjarrett63
@johnathanjarrett63 4 ай бұрын
They told me they had cookies... They didn't.
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 4 ай бұрын
Of course the empire would never lie to you this is merely anti imperial propaganda please report to your nearest imperial facility for reconditioning!
@Monkchelle_Kongbama
@Monkchelle_Kongbama 4 ай бұрын
inb4 watching, eh?
@luisemoralesfalcon4716
@luisemoralesfalcon4716 4 ай бұрын
Man, the way they looked with the moss in Fallen Order was amazing.
@SpottedHares
@SpottedHares 4 ай бұрын
The ATAT remind me a lot of war elephants. Yes, you can endlessly argue how objectively impractical they may be, But that doesn’t count for the real life horror factor seeing one of these things charging at you with range attack coming down on you from on high.
@dewdew80
@dewdew80 4 ай бұрын
Tracked vehicles struggle in forests, walker tanks are a solution that uses armored legs instead of vulnerable thrusters. More efficient than thrusters too. Also most IEDs that hit Humvees were found to lose something like 80 percent of their destructive power after 3 feet. So a walker tank that elevates the main hull above that height actually make sense when fighting separatists on remote planets that lack a highway infrastructure.
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 4 ай бұрын
- Mecha - Efficient Choose one.
@dewdew80
@dewdew80 4 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 I said it was more efficient than hovering, learn to read.
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 4 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 Hovercraft might have higher speed but waste ungodly amount of fuel when just hovering in place, that is why mecha and tracked/wheeled vehicles are much cheaper to operate, making them more efficient. And yes, while the joints in the legs might be weak points the foot itself is a very thick slab of armor so most land mines will never reach the vulnerable parts of that leg. Likely to actually threaten a mech with a mine you would need naval mines, and if you had those to spare the enemy fleet would not have landed walkers on your planet in the first place...
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 4 ай бұрын
@@dewdew80 It isn't more efficient, no. Mecha, as a whole, isn't actually 'efficient' at anything. It is an inherently broken concept when applying even the slightest degree of physics, vehicular design, and basic common sense.
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 4 ай бұрын
@@AnalystPrime I have no idea what you mean by hovercraft 'wasting ungodly amounts of fuel'. Assuming we are discussing SW, then no, they factually don't, lul. Repulsorlifts are some of THE most energy efficient devices in the franchise, to a degree that borders on comical. This isn't an actual argument; Mines that are sufficient to damage or destroy a normal, equally armored tank are always going to be just aa or more efficient at doing the same to walkers. Losing a track is every bit as much of a death sentence as losing function in a leg, except likely worse in some ways (an AT-AT losing a leg, for example, results in the entire walker topping over seconds later).
@Fimbulvinter19
@Fimbulvinter19 4 ай бұрын
I've always viewed the AT-AT as a modern take an a siege tower. It's not meant to be involved in direct fighting where the lack of side or under mounted weapons would be a problem. It's supposed to blast away from max ranged using its height to fire over obstacles, or over other forces like the AT-ST or Juggernaut.
@Zenithx622
@Zenithx622 4 ай бұрын
If i remmber from teh battle of hoth there was a scene of some AtSt's walking int eh back ground so makes sence, the ATAT is a siege weapon and deploys teh troops for teh main assault with ATST support.
@Alpha_Digamma
@Alpha_Digamma 4 ай бұрын
Growing up on the OT stuff, I never disliked the All Terrain Armored Transport.
@andreykuzmin4317
@andreykuzmin4317 4 ай бұрын
Rebels were thinking they are winning the battle of Ord Vaug. They sure felt proud of themselves - they dug up on a planet right at the Core's gates. Fortified it, too - surface-to orbit ion cannons, shields over every major city, tanks and guns from looted Imperial armories. Orbital bombardment would take years, and repulsorlift assault, likewise, was impossible. They were winning, alright... until we deployed AT-AT walkers. They went right through the shields, shrugging off blaster fire and stepping on armored cars and war droids. After 6 hours vaughian royalty and their rebel friends capitulated. The Force and "hope" can only do so much against Kuati durasteel".
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 4 ай бұрын
That is an important point, aircraft and hover vehicles are apparently incapable of passing through shields while walkers and tracked vehicles can, and for some reason Empire and other SW powers never developed huge tanks like Ogres or Bolos so SW walkers actually have thicker armor and shields than tanks.
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
@@AnalystPrime You're onto something, except, repulsor vehicles can get through shields. They always could and this is a rare case where I can say something about Star Wars definitively. To get a repulsor vehicle through shields all you have to do is drive towards the shield, shut off the vehicle for a second, and then turn it back on again once it's through the shield. Nothing more than a disposable toboggan would be necessary to ensure any repulsor vehicle could perform this trick. There's also the underrated technology of normal winged flight if you want to deliver things to the surface of planets that have an atmosphere, or just dropping big things that explode if you want to skip a step.
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 4 ай бұрын
@@iivin4233 Shields that allow fast objects to pass would not have any effect on bombs and artillery making them useless as shields(the air barriers seen in hangars being the sole exception) so we can safely assume if a defender has a shield then enemy aircraft and speeders would simply splat against it as ineffectively as their shots, otherwise the defender would not bother wasting resources. But even though there has to be a way for enemy to push through a shield so we can have a dramatic battle, it clearly slows them down which is bad news for lightweight hovercraft that rely on dodging to survive. As to why nobody uses heavily armored repulsorcraft, either the cost would get so high only something like Palpatine's World Eater superweapons would even try as a working military needs cheaply mass produced weapons not rare expensive hangar queens, or this is a case of how cars, steam locomotives and rockets all have "engines": the repulsors on a starship and a speeder are not actually comparable despite using the same name.
@BatMan-sg9kh
@BatMan-sg9kh Ай бұрын
​​@@iivin4233I'd imagine that if word ever got out that a force was using toboggans to slide heavy repulsar craft through shields, you'd see a lot of moats dug everywhere to just completely disable that method of entry.
@scp2539
@scp2539 4 ай бұрын
In the game Empire at War, the ATAT makes assaulting planets easy. I didn't think much of it because of the movies but this game actually changed my opinion on it. I still don't understand or like the gorilla fists the new ones have but it's a decent tank/transport when you're not up against an equal strength military.
@jeanmichael2002
@jeanmichael2002 4 ай бұрын
Man invading planets with just two AT-ATs, AT-STs as escort, the anti air tanks and some artillery units is so fun. Who needs an endless legion of stormtroopers and mass wave attacks when u can surgically strike a rebel base with the walkers and their own trooper complement
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 4 ай бұрын
​@@jeanmichael2002 Agreed. My only complaint is that their crawl is so slow that it takes them ages to move to the enemy victory point. This makes me think, its no wonder the Rebels were able to evacuate most of their people off Hoth by the time Veers and Blizzard squad made it to Echo Base's shield generator and took it out.
@karlvongazenberg8398
@karlvongazenberg8398 4 ай бұрын
10:10 Also on Hoth it was mentioned that the speeders had problems with the cold. Even when the Rebels by that point spent some time on the planet.
@oldmanjim2376
@oldmanjim2376 4 ай бұрын
It's mentioned in Legends that a convoy carrying all their equipment to adapt to cold was ambushed by the Empire and destroyed.
@johnpaulsanchez3517
@johnpaulsanchez3517 4 ай бұрын
That Black Parade reference at the end was gold
@davidponseigo8811
@davidponseigo8811 4 ай бұрын
When I was in the Gulf out in the desert defending oil wells and platforms ( I was a combat security contractor for oil companies ) if we couldn't get our guys positioned up high a helio hovering overhead would do the job but if we had a oil platform I or one other guy with a high power rifle would also work.
@viperson9818
@viperson9818 4 ай бұрын
The weakness exploited in ESB you could say is hard to exploit. A snow speeder only has one tow cable before it needs to replenish it plus it takes a seriously skilled pilot to consistently wrap around the at-at and hope the tow cable doesn’t just randomly get stuck then you’ll be flying out of control and crash.
@BabyKnxckz
@BabyKnxckz 4 ай бұрын
Armoring the legs also is alot harder than smth else break one leg and that thing is useless
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 4 ай бұрын
@@BabyKnxckz While the joints are weak points, the rest of the leg is basically just slabs of battleship grade armor. A typical tank has few inches of armor on the sides, about a foot on the front, and getting hit even if it does not penetrate the other side of the armor can send fragments that kill the crew and damage the internal components. To destroy a mech leg you need to hit one spot with enough firepower to completely remove at least few cubic feet of material, possibly cubic yards for big mech like ATAT. We can see in ESB that the ATAT foot is thicker than Luke is tall, and a land mine would not do anything just penetrating that unless it still has enough power to annihilate the ankle behind all that armor, or alternatively just remove the foot pad itself. And all that would just stop the mech from moving unless you get lucky and it falls over, which actually isn't so dangerous for a vehicle that has inertial compensators.
@uhohspaghettios821
@uhohspaghettios821 3 ай бұрын
@@LiamN4321 "while the joints are weak points" he's just talking about the non joint leg parts, nothing to do with the total viability of the weapon in a near-peer conflict. The whole point of all this is to show its kinda okay against losers who don't have access to cutting edge weapons like the empire does.
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 3 ай бұрын
@@LiamN4321 You realize there is now a shortage of space wizards who can run across the battlefield dodging fire and jump ten meters to cut that joint with their magic swords? Even in a more realistic universe you aren't going to hit a small fast swinging target with a heavy slow firing cannon without lot of luck, especially as it will be behind all the trees, buildings and whatever other cover there is when battles happen in natural terrain instead of the table they do stop motion animation on. If you can see the legs you are either on a flat plain where every enemy can also see you or got so close that you are an obvious target, neither of which is a situation where you want to stop to aim for a difficult trick shot. And even if you do hit it, that joint is still armored so to have any chance of doing anything you must use a proper antitank weapon, meaning you should be using it to destroy heavy vehicles instead of wasting time and ammo trying to be fancy. The joints are certainly a weak spot but in a regular battle enemies will just try to shoot the body because it is easier to hit and will give more immediate results.
@AnalystPrime
@AnalystPrime 3 ай бұрын
@@uhohspaghettios821 The Force probably loves the idea of plucky heroes ambushing and boarding a walker like in RotJ, but realistically just like IRL tanks there should be infantry around to deal with any "peasant with a knife sneaking on the knight in plate armor"-scenarios. Such ambushes would rarely work twice. In a full on battle the ATAT is not alone and if everyone focuses fire on it they are not shooting at the rest of the army. Not that a transport vehicle belongs on the front line, but if it is stupid and works it is not stupid.
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen 4 ай бұрын
has to be said, the change in doctrine to not risk armoured vehicles in urban environments makes sense... why send in a walker for patrol duties when probe droids will do the same job?
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
A dark joke would be to point out that these days they don't need to send a drone or a droid. They just send a bomb. But your point is correct for situations where armies don't want to do that. That's one reason why CIS is and has always been, by complete accident, the smartest military in Star Wars. It only makes sense that both Star Wars and fans alike would buy into their role as buffoons..
@charliedulin
@charliedulin 4 ай бұрын
I remember reading at some point that the height was so they could literally peak their weapons over the terrain/foliage/buildings to clear the way while keep the troops protected
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
What you want in a vehicle that's meant to observe over terrain and protect soldiers is for it to not be able to look to the sides or behind itself without walking in a circle very slowly.
@charliedulin
@charliedulin 4 ай бұрын
@@iivin4233 because they dont have cameras and sensors or walk in a pack.
@therealbobafett
@therealbobafett 4 ай бұрын
3:35 can we just admire that Rex is shooting at an AT-AT walker with pistols
@BabyKnxckz
@BabyKnxckz 4 ай бұрын
XD why was he even shooting makes him seem extreamly stupid
@westcoastodinsson5347
@westcoastodinsson5347 3 ай бұрын
I would to if I was THE GOAT!
@GenerationTech
@GenerationTech 4 ай бұрын
why do people hate the cybertruck so much... im not a huge fans of evs but I see stainless steel, "dangerous for pedestrians" and i think ultimate zombie crushing truck
@jjfordingpoursoulstudios8581
@jjfordingpoursoulstudios8581 4 ай бұрын
In a word.....F.U.G.L.Y.
@nervon2393
@nervon2393 4 ай бұрын
The zombie blood would begin to oxidise the outer frame, so it's not really the best option
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 4 ай бұрын
​@@nervon2393 The real advantage is you can weld anything you want to it.
@nervon2393
@nervon2393 4 ай бұрын
@jtjames79 true, I mean the thing looks like it hasn't finished rendering or is one of those starter items in an pay to win freemuim game , though would probably be still a pain to maintain and clean
@Constance_tinople
@Constance_tinople 4 ай бұрын
Because they’re dangerous to their drivers and civilians alike (aka stinky)
@moonunit7417
@moonunit7417 4 ай бұрын
You mentioned about 3 minutes in that the Empire wouldn't have to be concerned with land mines because they were the only faction fielding a large conventional army, and that they would be the only faction laying mines. If you look at the history of modern asymmetrical warfare, land mines have been an effectively used by guerilla forces, especially against armor. The use of both professionally manufactured and improvised landmines against armored convoys during the USSR's occupation of Afghanistan in the '80s especially comes to mind. In the Empire's situation it's very reasonable for them to consider weapons like mines to be more of a threat than enemy armor or heavy weapons. It's far more likely that an insurgent cell can hide a pit full of explosives on a road than build and maintain hover-tanks capable of stranding up to a galaxy-spanning space faring civilization.
@papapalps2415
@papapalps2415 4 ай бұрын
"They wouldn't need to be worried about landmines, because they are the only conventional land army anyways!" Holy fu+king shit, lmfao. God, these people are comedy gold. Who's going to tell them, about the last...what, 20 years in the Middle East?
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
@@papapalps2415 To be fair, he does mention IEDs. That should have been his first clue.
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 3 ай бұрын
Not the same thing. Small guerilla forces do not have factories producing land mines in quantity. And unlike Earth, with communists supplying armament to the guerilla, in SW they would fix that rapidly by blowing up the guilty planet. 'What does it say on the land mine's tag? Made on Alderaan? Yeah, We'll solve the problem in a minute.'
@BugRib
@BugRib 4 ай бұрын
13:44 to 13:57 Top tier Generation Tech. God bless you, Carl.
@spacebees86
@spacebees86 4 ай бұрын
Hannibal used elephants to get through mountains for a reason. Beaches, swamps, thick forests, rocky broken terrain, tundra, deep snow, hills and trenches are where large walkers make sense. Anywhere wheels or tracks can't go.
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 4 ай бұрын
Might also be because he didn't really have an alternative. Wheeled and tracked vehicles didn't exist. It's like saying swords and spears are superior weapons to guns because the Roman legions used them.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt 4 ай бұрын
Indeed, people really put down Legged locomotion in combat because, "Joints are so vulnerable!" but hard to traverse terrain is hard to traverse for a reason! You need an adaptable means of locomotion, which is going to complex no matter how you do it.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt 4 ай бұрын
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Wheels existed in the time of Hannibal! But Wheels don't like uneven terrain, like what you'd find on a MOUNTAIN, preferring Infrastructure like level roads, or at the very least clear paths. Tracks don't fair much better and are far more complex.
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem 4 ай бұрын
@@DonaldWWitt Wheels did, but not vehicles, unless you want to count an animal or person pulling a wheeled platform, at which point you're using the elephant or other animal anyway.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt 4 ай бұрын
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I don't know what to tell you if you think Wagons and carts aren't vehicles...
@Lafuerza_V
@Lafuerza_V 4 ай бұрын
KZbin I did not know I needed to know this, but you make a darn good argument sir
@nickcody7257
@nickcody7257 4 ай бұрын
My thought was repulser lifts require being on the outside of armor making them more vulnerable to even small arms for a mobility kill. The other issue is a repulser is an energy based field and can be detected further away. The Walkers in this way are "stealthier" since when the stop they emit zero energy. These would be the two reasons the CIS used them when others didn't, they used huge armies so stealth was out, and if one of their 1000 hover tanks got immobilized who cared, it could keep firing from that location.
@Wintermute909
@Wintermute909 4 ай бұрын
@ 16:02 that's a much nicer way of saying "bloody minded contrarian". I think I'll start using that myself!
@TheRealTlaiLaxu
@TheRealTlaiLaxu 4 ай бұрын
If i remember correctly, some planets had disruptive effects on repulsor engines and some bases had a repulsorlift jammer making the use of small and medium sized hover craft impossible. And with difficult terrain that hampers wheeled and tracked vehicles, a walker is a good choice
@Psub950
@Psub950 4 ай бұрын
200 First Order Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers please
@RandomMercenary1
@RandomMercenary1 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jasondismuke4837
@jasondismuke4837 4 ай бұрын
My money is on the clones. Instead of being enlisted like stormtroopers, the clones are literally bred for battle.
@Psub950
@Psub950 4 ай бұрын
@@jasondismuke4837 the First Order stormtrooper have the same training and better equipment, i think it would be interesting
@jasondismuke4837
@jasondismuke4837 4 ай бұрын
@Psub950 it would definitely be close. I totally agree that it would definitely be interesting. Specialized troops, or just basic infantry vs infantry?
@butcherpete2286
@butcherpete2286 4 ай бұрын
Why? Why send mere babes into the slaughter of Normandy Beach?
@Icewolfcommand
@Icewolfcommand 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Battletech player. So yeah walker vehicles are awesome! Even though battlemechs are mostly two legs, there are some quad designs. But definitely a fan of walkers. 😁
@agravemisunderstanding9668
@agravemisunderstanding9668 3 ай бұрын
The reason the star fortress thing was so easily destroyed is that unlike in SW, altitude played a significant part in air combat, bombers weren't just heavily armed and armoured they flew higher and faster than most fighters (ideally). If a b17 attacked a German city at low altitude like they did in that SW scene the result would've been pretty similar
@MrFlyingaddict
@MrFlyingaddict 4 ай бұрын
I subscribed to you because of your detailed explanations of stuff. Please remind people that these vehicles were NOT designed for practicality, they were designed by looks and that is it. No reality in SW, just fantasy, but enough reality to make it almost believable.
@detritus23
@detritus23 4 ай бұрын
The bigger problem is "ground pressure". The mass of the walker would cause it to bog down and trip on anything other than rock or impacted soil.
@Laz7481
@Laz7481 4 ай бұрын
Physics in stat wars doesn't work the same way as in real life. If it looks cool it is probably possible.
@iivin4233
@iivin4233 4 ай бұрын
Glad you said it so I don't have to. Maybe AT-ATs use repulsors to keep themselves up. Gen Tech is screwed either way. If repulsors work the way he supposes in water then ground pressure is a thing and his AT-ATs will sink. If it doesn't, then repulsors are a much more powerful asset that would outclass any legs.
@detritus23
@detritus23 4 ай бұрын
@@iivin4233 The problem with repulsors or any sort of force beam support is that the ground still feels the mass of the vehicle. If the beam spreads, then the mass will be more evenly distributed, but the vehicle will be more unstable as the energy dissipates by the square of distance. The other problem is the fact that steering an essentially frictionless vehicle is difficult (see maneuvering a GEV, for example). The best answer to the repulsor-problem, in my opinion, is the "gravity -polarizer" found in Larry Niven's Universe. The device simply reverses the local effect of gravity on the containing object, but it uses huge amounts of energy. In that instance, ground pressure is negated by the operation of the device. However ....
@jordanasiegel2099
@jordanasiegel2099 4 ай бұрын
I am really liking this series. please break down more Star wars misconceptions. I also liked the pairing with the VS videos.
@benkenobi6626
@benkenobi6626 3 ай бұрын
That cybertruck comment was awesome. Love this channel!
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 4 ай бұрын
Walker is best walker. ~some Imperial, probably.
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 4 ай бұрын
Another bonus to the height of the ATAT is that it can more easily engage enemy forces hidden in high rises. During the invasion of Chechnya by the Russian Army in the 90s and 2000s, a large amount of vehicles, especially BMP-2s, were lost because they lacked the elevation angles to engage rebel forces. This directly resulted in the development of the BMP Terminator, with extreme angles of elevation, while being built on the T-72 chassis, providing plenty of armor to engage infantry.
@metroidhunter965
@metroidhunter965 4 ай бұрын
The AT-AT was at such a ridiculous size for its imposing frame. If you can see it coming over the horizon (not unlike how they did on Hoth), you can’t tell me that put the fear of Palpatine in unruly populaces.
@Etzelsschizo
@Etzelsschizo 4 ай бұрын
The height has a use, it's essentially mobile artillery because it can overlook the whole battlefield
@janklobener435
@janklobener435 4 ай бұрын
10:42 I call bullshit on that 55 kph limit for the AAT, it's clearly faster. That lore needs to get updated.
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 4 ай бұрын
The 55 kph is probably the combat speed. When the tank is running around for logistics it has to be way faster.
@ToaDrakua
@ToaDrakua 4 ай бұрын
The kind of terrain that'd arguably be a huge weakness for walkers: soft/hollow ground. Enemy sets a trap over a hollow space beneath the surface of an area, as soon as the walker sets foot over that area, they'll be liable to fall right in and incur severe damage to their limbs.
@nosbigdamus9665
@nosbigdamus9665 4 ай бұрын
I totally understand where you're coming from I love this vehicle as I'm making/building my own AT-AT to carry my figures.
@Dies1r4e
@Dies1r4e 4 ай бұрын
I agree on most things, accept that a repulsor with 8 foot of clearance NOT preforming insanely better off-road then a tracked vehicle. Ground clearance alone that is insane. repulsors also work on water.
@nathanhall4156
@nathanhall4156 4 ай бұрын
The parody of the "death of the tank" argument, which has been happening since September of 1916, and recently regained traction (pun very much intended) is appreciated.
@StrappedSnowMexican
@StrappedSnowMexican 4 ай бұрын
13:40 wtf did you just do to my eyes?
@rasputinloveroftherussianq1985
@rasputinloveroftherussianq1985 4 ай бұрын
That last line, "the savior of the broken the beaten and the damned" gave my tinitus a distinct g-flat tone xD
@averywyatt-luth1642
@averywyatt-luth1642 2 ай бұрын
that NYPD walker picture you showed is, I think, an art project >.>
@victoriannordmann4333
@victoriannordmann4333 4 ай бұрын
In all the games were you can add them to your army. I found 3 ATAT, 6 ATST, 4 ATAA plus 2 rear units. Keep the apart until they get in range of the base. One will be lost, but that's war. ATAT are good for cover fire, transport, and assault.
@historicflame972
@historicflame972 4 ай бұрын
Just so you know, the Sith Empire didn't use the Manka class, they used a long tank with treads simply called the Crawler Tank
@vic5015
@vic5015 4 ай бұрын
Channeling Jack O'Neil: both the ISD and the AT-AT are weapons of terror, not weapons of war. Also, the Imperial military is more of a civil guard, not really a fighting force.
@Adelina-293
@Adelina-293 4 ай бұрын
Could be worse, they could be a planetary defense force from Warhammer 40k.
@angelic_disappointment7889
@angelic_disappointment7889 4 ай бұрын
The ISD and AT-AT were literally designed to fight the battles of the clone wars and you think they’re only intimidation tools 😂😂 so foolish
@jamesh2321
@jamesh2321 4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of an RPG campaign I was a part of some years back where a strike team was sent to either sabotage or steal the production plans for a newer, better armed and more stable version of the AT-AT that would have made anyone fielding it all but invulnerable in ground combat. Among other things, it had bubble turrets on the side and the legs were a bit offset, angled outward from the central body making it easier to "squat" instead of "kneel" when disembarking troopers. It also had the AT-AA's Pod on the top and even small repulsors under the belly that could push away mines, small charges, solid rockets, and cutting blades around the knees to prevent the tow cable trick. Even the "neck joint" was up-armored. It was a beast based on the AT-TE, and the MT-AT, with the LAAT bubble turrets and the AT-AA leg shape and A-Pod smashed in. Transport capacity suffered due to the increased armor and armament, but this was a front line heavy assault version rather than the standard "bring our troops and speeders to the front" version. Properly designed and utilized, it would be a beast, but much like the vaunted TIE Defender, it was VERY expensive so your random imperial governor would wince at those per unit costs when he could just build some cheaper units and siphon the rest off to his personal pleasure palace... TL:DR: Good video, makes many points also encountered by my gaming group long long ago.
@andrewobrien8325
@andrewobrien8325 4 ай бұрын
13:50 gee thanks for that mental image…..I really needed to imagine a Star Wars tank acting like my mum’s dog.
@Zenithx622
@Zenithx622 4 ай бұрын
Seeing you talk about teh manka walker is cool, I noticed the republic walkers had a similer feel to one f the drop ships with teh cargo hold space.
@DrDoohickie
@DrDoohickie 4 ай бұрын
Great content, per usual. Do you have any content on Kylo’s Command Shuttle? Probably my favorite Star Wars craft.
@charliedulin
@charliedulin 4 ай бұрын
Who?
@imnotthatcreative6894
@imnotthatcreative6894 4 ай бұрын
Hard for the AT AT to keep going if there’s no maintenance bay in the field or if you experience any minor or major mechanical issues.
@ramonalfaro3252
@ramonalfaro3252 4 ай бұрын
Alan and his awesome content! Love this channel!!!
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 3 ай бұрын
Great episode great points and I love the thumbnail and in universe touchs!
@Vistico93
@Vistico93 4 ай бұрын
I like how the spacefaring history of the Star Wars universe is so long that they have to design ships/walkers/etc. that are still way more advanced than anything we could come up with but still have to look outdated in terms of late BBY/early ABY period tech
@BRK5813
@BRK5813 4 ай бұрын
as a former maintenance guy, I just don't like all those high maintenance moving parts. tracks and wheels are one thing, legs are a whole other story
@paulbirkner2104
@paulbirkner2104 2 ай бұрын
5:33 "help" lol there just isn't gonna be a crowd left after these things go "pew pew"
@razorback10
@razorback10 4 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the AT-DP and their role with patrolling cities / urban environments and small towns and what not? I think it's really underrated and hopefully we see it in live action. I know it has flaws, but that's exactly what I want you to point out.
@nathanguice2417
@nathanguice2417 4 ай бұрын
Some other thought processes that crossed my mind on this that I don't have enough lore to answer: What are the logistics at the Empire's disposal for a far-out rim world like Hoth? Maybe the AT-AT wasn't the perfect fit for the ice world invasion, but it may be all that Vader's fleet had on-hand and they had to "make due" to jump on the opportunity provided by the probe droid's discovery. And, as brought up in this video, they didn't do that bad in the battle for Hoth. Heck, if the driver of the vehicle that got wrapped in tow cables just halted his advance, the thing would never have toppled over. AND the speeders were dropping like flies when they tried to make their passes. Even Luke got shot down shortly after his victory, and he was covered in P.L.O.T. armor.
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 4 ай бұрын
The ATAT is smartly designed for the Empire. You don’t know what threats you will need to clash with, so you build a vehicle that can be a tank, IFF, artillery, general cargo transport and a mobile observation post.
@barbiquearea
@barbiquearea 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the AT-AT should of had some anti-air capabilities. Its certainly big enough to fit an arsenal of homing missiles to take out airborne hostiles. It surprises me that Veers didn't think of that, for he should have at gotten some AT-AAs to accompany Blizzard force to take out those snow speeders.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt 4 ай бұрын
I love me some Legged Mechs Allen, but the AT-AT was designed for looks both in and out of universe. Even Kenner made a prototype AT-AT that replaced the transport space with a big gun.
@TheGoddamnBacon
@TheGoddamnBacon 4 ай бұрын
To throw in something I remember from the 8th X-Wing book (Isard's Revenge if I remember rightly), it was noted by Corran Horn that, unlike the relative lumbering g performance of the AT-AT in the snowscape of Hoth, on the more solid ground of the planet they were deployed on, they were surprisingly, even scarily fast for their size. Do with that what you will.
@johannesbowers7467
@johannesbowers7467 4 ай бұрын
One of the things nobody really remembers about supereffective weapons like the explosively formed penetrator IED Is they actually have an Effective range of 100 m from the cannister source... If they are aimed properly they do not have to be in contact with or even next to their targets to slice right through them. Properly concealed and positioned they can represent a 360° threat to any armored target on every axis. You can't max armor everything: front, back, sides, above, and below.
@andrewhosuer3846
@andrewhosuer3846 4 ай бұрын
Not so. You’d need a very big EFP to penetrate a car at 100m. To the scale that it would be immobile and inefficient against armored targets.
@Jonathan-fy4cx
@Jonathan-fy4cx 4 ай бұрын
This dude deserves more than 835 thousand subs
@FullLengthInterstates
@FullLengthInterstates 4 ай бұрын
walkers and their real life analogs - ROBODOGS - can carry heavier payloads than flying drones, and excel at loitering! Though the narrow terrain niche of being too bad for wheels vs being too bad for all ground vehicles probably requires some really good geology intel
@cybersmith_videos
@cybersmith_videos 4 ай бұрын
Something notable is that because of the extreme height, it's side armour is all sloped armour, functionally thicker than if it were closer to the ground.
@AdventureUntamed23
@AdventureUntamed23 4 ай бұрын
A new favorite episode!
@majortwitched
@majortwitched 4 ай бұрын
Mentioned this on the other video, but ground pressure is going to be on biggest issues for these things. Crossing rivers (unless its pure bedrock) and swamps is the last thing you would want to do with a walker. Just read about the battle of Agincourt, lots of weight on legs is a bad idea. About the only place where walkers are good is urban environments where you only have surface structures. Legs are great for climbing and dealing with very uneven surfaces, no as great when you are now knee deep in the sewer and subway system. Also if it was meant to be an urban suppression platform why was the underside not as well armored as the top or have belly lasers to clear targets and cables from the legs?
@8-bitsarda747
@8-bitsarda747 4 ай бұрын
Forgot the most important part of the ATAT. The fact that it's the most overpowered unit in Empire at War
@DucNguyen-bd5ir
@DucNguyen-bd5ir 4 ай бұрын
Toyoda providing weapons platforms and transport since the 80's.
@hadeshades2365
@hadeshades2365 4 ай бұрын
8:09 rubble has explosives in it? You can’t convince me that a charge able to take out a tank can’t take out this things leg. It has to step over. The ap-mine argument is also not to good, mines will destroy those feet.
@no-one-o1o1
@no-one-o1o1 4 ай бұрын
Great use of that My Chemical Romance line 👍
@5stardave
@5stardave 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the battle elephants bearing down on Gondor.
@Random_Dragon_Furry
@Random_Dragon_Furry 3 ай бұрын
I love it when people stop thinking of walkers as tanks and start thinking of them more. As their own thing cause there are situations where walking vehicles can be practical. Once you get past the technological hurdles of making them.
@ghillieguy52
@ghillieguy52 4 ай бұрын
one potential advantage of a walking vehicle is using the legs to oscillate the hull for improved gun depression much like the swedish stridsvagn
@Canuovea
@Canuovea 4 ай бұрын
Change your mind about walkers? Fine. Play Total Annihilation! Oh no, wait, that might backfire...
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 4 ай бұрын
ATAT's seem more like internal security vehicles like MRAP's than a Bradley
@lychiadventures8231
@lychiadventures8231 4 ай бұрын
i would really want to drive one if it ever exists..it's one of the coolest and iconic transport in sci-fi.
@MRptwrench
@MRptwrench 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see Allen has abandoned his lofty ambition of living with the high born up on the surface of Coruscant. You're one of us, Xie. You belong down here.
@hennaikimono
@hennaikimono 4 ай бұрын
Walkers are cool. Just look at the games Command & Conquer 2 and 3 of the Tibirium series. The GDI had walkers as the their tanks, including the Mammoth Tank Mk2, in the 2nd game. In the 3rd game, I think all the faction's super vehicles were walkers.
@campbellcarr5393
@campbellcarr5393 4 ай бұрын
what do you think about the dc-15c vs the E-11
@brockgundich
@brockgundich 4 ай бұрын
E-11 is better in every category except for being a slightly less effective against droids
@Etzelsschizo
@Etzelsschizo 4 ай бұрын
DC 15 is better, but E 11 is still a decent rifle and easier to mass produce which makes it much more suitable for a galactic scale army
@bigjake360t
@bigjake360t 4 ай бұрын
My favorite type of walking tank from science fiction is the RicDom from Gundam. It has all the advantages of bipedal motion plus the ability to hover. A close second would be the Tochcoma from Ghost in the Shell.
@Castor586
@Castor586 4 ай бұрын
What I'd like to add regarding the height of the AT-AT: insurgent forces would be less likely to bring them down in an urban environment. For starters, most of them would need heavy firepower from a starship to accomplish this, but the Empire would have their own countermeasures. Secondly, an AT-AT crashing in the streets would cause severe damage to the immediate infrastructure; buildings, roads, and underground sewers, gas lines or power lines.
@melman2047
@melman2047 4 ай бұрын
Good to see you moving on from acolyte.
@benparker1822
@benparker1822 4 ай бұрын
I'm completely with you on the walkers, thing. And, they could be much scarier. With an extensive enough sensor suite, they could detect potential incoming fire and predicted angles of that fire, and then either move out of the way at the anticipated moment of firing, or present a glancing face of armor so that the hit is shrugged off. You can't get that with wet-ware programming.
@yagdtigercommander
@yagdtigercommander 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Allen for giving the AT-AT the respect it deserves while in some aspects its height can be a disadvantage in some situations. It can very much be a benefit in others. Athough its a legs can be considered weak spot they are immensly durable for most types of threats. Thought the rebels have had some success with tripping it with tow cables it really wasn't standard practice and a sign of a desperate enemy of the empire trying anything that could potentially bring down one of these armoured behemoths. Sure they are vulnerable to ion disruptiors and ion based weapons but the thing is Ion based weapons don't appear to a common thing for rebel infantry to get their hands on. The flexible neck is vulnerable yes but its smaller and hard to target to hit. The cockpit was armoured one of its predecessors the AT-TE doesn't have an armoured cocket and its more vulnerable to anti- armour weapons and mines. Even a cargo auxilary variant of the AT -AT can with stand a shoulder fire rocket to its head. Yes luke brought one down with a bomb and grapping hook but thats luke I force sensitive and Jedi in the making easier for him to perform such bold stunt. AT-ATs were designed a part of the Tarkin Doctrine to scare the shit out those who resist the empire. Many people say oh just get close to it plant a bomb on its leg or fire a bazooka at it or just have x-wings or y -wings bomb it. One most rebel soliders are going to flee in terror of something like anyone would seeing a Mech the Size of High Rise Lumbering on 4 legs towards you while the very ground you stand on shakes from the massive weight of its feet stomping on the ground. X-wings can damage it with proton torpedos but it would require several unless they were lucky enough to hit a weak point. Y wings could do it but they are kind of on the slower side and its pretty safe to assume AT-ATs are going to into battle with out support. I am sure an ISD unleashed a swarm of tie fighters that could easily intercept the y-wings or possible have some mobile ground based flak like an AT-AA. The AT-AT can with stand direct hits from standard Anti_vehicle Cannons while its own heavy chin mounted laser cannons can turn anything into molten slag with impunity almost. By all means the AT-AT is not a perfect design no design is and its something that is probably overkill for most of the operations empire conducted against rebels. And yes being slow can be a disadvantage in some ways but it can also help with conserving resources needed to keep such vehicle to operate effectively. Also people say it can be more effectient to blast fortifications like walls and other barricades. But The AT-AT doesn't need to do that it is capable stomping to said barricades under its own feet which I think is a more cost effective way of resources. While equally providing strong pyschological warfare against your enemy. Your enemy expects to you to waste time clearing barricades with combat engineers and or blasting through the fortified walls of their base buying them more time to reatreat from battle or whatever it maybe. nonone expects 22.5 meter Tall Walker to just kick down the enemies front door essentially walking in while hordes of support units flood in from the breach in your defenses it created just by kicking it over or stomping it to a pancake which is pretty cool I think. But thats just my opinion of this vehicle is it seen absurd and impractical at times yes. But if you want to send the ultimate message to those that choose to screw with and want them to stop then this is your war machine friends XD.
@TFASplbtttt
@TFASplbtttt Ай бұрын
Don't know if it's cannon, but in Empire at War, repulsor lifts certainly do float above H2O
@ai-aniverse
@ai-aniverse 4 ай бұрын
The walker is such an impractical terror tool lol.
@KeithSkates
@KeithSkates 4 ай бұрын
PORTABLE HIGH GROUND!!!!!
@regentmad1037
@regentmad1037 4 ай бұрын
good stuff as always bud.
@solaireofastora5999
@solaireofastora5999 4 ай бұрын
AT-ST i get becUse it's a all terrain scout vehicle meant for scouting and can be equipped with heavy weaponry like grenade launchers to function as a assault vehicle. The AT-AT, i always see it as a All terrain Troop trasnport or All terrain Artillery Platform. It's useful for urban combat but when out in the open like Hoth then it's somewhat useless
@GoranXII
@GoranXII 4 ай бұрын
One issue with Jeddah, that tank passed under several arches. Unless the AT-AT could step over them, it wouldn't be going anywhere there. Also, it would be pretty awkward in a city, as it would struggle to turn corners in a confined space. Also, I'm willing to bet that a fighter with proton torpedoes would take down a few walkers plenty easily. With the AT-AT that would involve hitting it anywhere rearwards of perhaps 60° off the front centre-line. With the AT-TE, that would be a far more difficult affair, given that their turrets can rotate a full 360°.
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 4 ай бұрын
My personal take (hot or not?): Helldivers 2 Factory Strider > AT-AT
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