Why Stormtroopers were the last to surrender

[@Patch_5]

making stormtroopers terrifying and somewhat inhuman comparatively to other imperials is a really cool part of star wars lore. i mean, these were the elites of the empire, and significant threats.

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

Annoys me that disney made them incompetent. Takes the thrill out if they’re dumb for comedic effect

[@vinsonli302]

it sounds cool at the start, but doesn't that mean would-be rebels would dehumanize them to the rest of the galaxy far easier too?

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@vinsonli302 empire’s hole strategy was to make the populace too afraid to do anything

[@tapultanul97]

​@@Cthulhuwarlord Ewoks beat them, and Palps said they were his best legion. So they were always incompetent.

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@tapultanul97 clone troopers would’ve lost to them as well

[@TheWarmachine375]

Stormtroopers In-universe: *dangerous and formidable elite soldiers of the Empire* Stormtroopers In-Memes: *they suck and always miss their shots*

[@someguycalledCh0wdah]

They always miss their shots (against named characters)

[@brianmoyachiuz905]

Rebellion propaganda 😂

[@weldonwin]

Such is the results of over using plot-armour

[@nathansheldahl]

In universe they still suck against a properly run and trained force as being the “elite” force of the Imperial forces doesn’t say much. That’s saying they sucked the least or more accurately were the most loyal to the Emperor and would die a needless and stupid death for his (or his officers) stupid plans. They suffer from the same problems most military units in similar situations of being great and competent in the only thing that matters and that’s being fanatically loyal to the leader. Everything else didn’t matter and wasn’t important like actually running a proper and disciplined military force that could actually fight and win real battles when the enemy actually properly defended itself. The Stormtroopers Corp sucked balls as an actual military force and wouldn’t (and didn’t) last long against a proper and determined force. Just look at Ukraine for a current example of this.

[@floriantieger491]

​@@nathansheldahlIn Legends, Thrawn had New Republic ships boarded to add them to his fleet. Do you know how many were needed to board a corvette? Two. Two stormtroopers against a whole ship and they won. The stormtroopers overwhelmed the rebels on Tantiv IV with minimal casualties. Stormtroopers were good, really good, and even rebel heroes avoided contact with them. In the new cannon they are a joke.

[@OrionInSpace]

No joke something I actually would love to see Andor Season 2 take on is showing us what capturing a storm trooper actually looks like. Like the interrogation of one even with their helmet off, I want to see what that would look like through Andor levels of writing.

[@GenerationTech]

boogelit

[@snipingflute4346]

I recommend the Battlefront 2 novel by Christie Golden.

[@OrionInSpace]

@@snipingflute4346 I think I read that one a long time ago when the game came out and I honestly didn’t remember much

[@TheWarmachine375]

Gregor: "These new troopers, our replacements, come from all over the galaxy and swear loyalty to the Empire. They're not as skilled but there's endless supply of them." Hunter: "Numbers aren't everything."

[@snipingflute4346]

So, that’s why General Syndulla and her guards did not hesitate to aim their blasters at Ezra posing as a defecting stormtrooper when he landed into the hanger.

[@bennettbush3906]

Odds are they would’ve just shot him right there if they were hardened vets. If it was realistic.

[@Jac2587]

Lots of love and respect to Allen, but I feel like this Carl guy just really gets it. A real breath of fresh air for the channel.

[@jiffypoo5029]

I completely disagree with the Jango Clones being ideal for Palpatine's Stormtroopers. Jango's clones were trained to kill force users from infancy and were infamous for their willpower against force users. Sideous couldn't risk a million mandalorian battlemasters breaking free of their programming. Mandalorians hate the Sith more than they hate the Jedi.

[@jackykwan3241]

In addition, if clones realized what Palpatine did to them, they will hunt him down with all cost.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@jackykwan3241 the inhibitor chip was essential to Palp's plan

[@Virtual_Jester]

@@kdusel1991Most of the clone troopers had VERY STRONG moral compasses, and not only would have refused to kill the Jedi, but would never agree to oppressing civilians either. A lot of them were too pure without their inhibitor chip.

[@simoneichler7320]

They would never turn on a army level base against the chanclor. Clones are designed to be loyal, if he is a sith changes nothing. Hell, palpatine was allowed to be a sith from the religious freedom the republic guaranted

[@jiffypoo5029]

@@simoneichler7320 Once a few Jango Clones break free and remove their chip it would be their life's mission to free their brothers. It would take a few years but once a few thousand are free it would quickly ramp up to army level. Mandalorians don't care about religious freedom, they despise the Sith going back thousands of years.

[@Wintermute909]

When I was a kid I always thought stormtrooper armor was white because starship interiors were white so it worked as semi-camouflage. And that stormtroopers were mostly marines. (Mostly due to the opening scene in A New Hope)

[@viperson9818]

Funny enough with all the imperial regulation behind stormtroopers. Stormtroopers could still tell each other apart from their movement and such. Wished we had more stories about the imperial stormtrooper core. Imperial infantry stories were always my favorite since we always hear about the rebel perspective but rarely the troopers. Like reading Eli experience with Thrawn’s death troopers was a fun read.

[@013wolfwarrior]

Theres a fun series on youtobe, called: For the empire, its a bit of a comady but has awesome moments for stormtroopers

[@tucmakukla]

Kinda like the SS and similar "political" units. They sometimes did achieve the impossible simply because of the willingness to risk atrocious losses, but more often than not they achieved the same as regular units, but paid higher losses for that.

[@JakeFromYoutube]

0:03 "LIAR!"

[@elix901]

Love when he goofs up the intro

[@BRAVO0NETV]

Hahahaha yea ok Carl and I'm Rick Grimes 🤣

[@HolyknightVader999]

"Donning sleek, white armor, Stormtroopers are elite shock troops fanatically loyal to the Empire and impossible to sway from the Imperial cause." -Standard lore blurb about Stormtroopers on the box of a Stormtrooper action figure.

[@cybersmith_videos]

The kind of fanaticism needed for the fake rebel escape in Episode IV is pretty intense.

[@Vistico93]

Truly. I can't imagine what kind of mental conditioning is necessary to hear a "sacrifice yourself, but make it look good" order and then simply go through with it without hesitation. Like how do you convince someone that a ploy which will certainly result in your death is the same as a soldier jumping on a grenade to save his squad? The latter feels purposeful so you can understand where the impulse comes from but the other is merely accepting your role as a pawn

[@maryedmonds4350]

what are you doing here human pet guy

[@AAronFoxxs]

"My name is carl" really got me

[@colormefrankenteddy]

Isn't his name Allen or maybe he changed his name

[@AAronFoxxs]

@@colormefrankenteddy hmm yes mabye

[@ligerzero4782]

@@colormefrankenteddy He could just be his identical twin cousin, or a clone, or a human replica droid, or something

[@stratometal]

I feel like that is a joke tied to the subject.

[@AAronFoxxs]

@@stratometal mabye

[@dovafett145]

Ah, yes, the empire making sure people are uniform in size and shape but yet not making doorways to accommodate said size to keep them from hitting their heads.

[@rossh2386]

Just like communists

[@petergoge2072]

@@rossh2386you gotta be a bot

[@JohnBrown-tw2qi]

@@rossh2386nothin more communist than corporate-run planets and a thriving military industrial complex!

[@spacecatsftw]

@@petergoge2072 nah, the commies were horrid

[@twowheelcrusader8234]

That’s what happens when you hire the cheapest contractor. Without screening how loyal they are. I’d love to see a snippet, of a hired engineer, purposely making things a tiny bit uncomfortable to use, because they got press contracted to work for the empire. XD “These doors are an inch too short. That counter, half an inch too low. The toilet, an inch too tall. A war fought in inches, is a war nonetheless.”

[@BennyFromFalloutNewVegas]

Can you cover Star Wars: Bounty Hunter lore? It's pretty great that Jango's rival for becoming the Clone army template is voiced by Clancy Brown AKA Mr. Krabs. That would be crazy alternate universe theory.

[@JohnTorrington-ut4ev]

A Montross clone army would be terrifying considering how blood thirsty he was.

[@brianmoyachiuz905]

Ooooh, I love these what if scenarios

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

It’s great how different generations of fans see actors (voice or otherwise) as different characters they’ve portrayed- the OP here sees Clancy Brown and thinks “Mr.Crabs”, and I see him and my mind goes straight to The Kurgan. Both iconic characters!

[@JohnTorrington-ut4ev]

@@brianmoyachiuz905 right? Montross clones probably wouldn't even care about the Jedi General (Dexter Jetster species) that was throwing away clone lives since Montross was all about bad frontal assault tactics

[@JohnTorrington-ut4ev]

@@tunguskalumberjack9987 and there's Shawshank redemption. But I went with Mr Krabs because he's just more recognized worldwide. Also I didn't want to date myself too much. Haha

[@kalr7235]

I just came across your channel, with the dooku video, And you’ve quickly become one of my favorite channels. My the force be with you brother

[@markdietrichcochran2274]

Allan is a travelling man. Now he's in Blade Runner LA.

[@gamejunky3040]

Damn, thought he was visiting night city

[@Wintermute909]

@ 2:13 they probably shouldn't have made those spikes go *through* the helmets. It makes the armor look as strong as cardboard.

[@debelmeis2311]

Their fanaticism requires a rethink on your clone vs storm troopers video. Clones dig in and defend, the fanatical Storm trooper slowly die in kamikaze attacks

[@philjohnson1744]

Hey, Carl. Do you think the action at the Aldanii Suppository lead to more Imperial Defecation?

[@GenerationTech]

i see what you did there

[@BugRib]

Only if the Rebels utilized brown note tech. Pretty sure that only exists in the South Park universe, though.

[@JimmyMidnite]

Great info, and btw, I am LOVING the cyberpunk-style backgrounds.

[@TheHipsterGamer]

I’ve always wanted to know what the HUD in a stormtrooper helmet looked like.

[@frantictoast3741]

Google exists

[@TheHipsterGamer]

@@frantictoast3741 you won’t find it. Best you can find is clone commando helmet hud. Don’t be an ass.

[@frantictoast3741]

@@TheHipsterGamer that's hilarious because I found it. Critical thinking works wonders.

[@TheHipsterGamer]

@@frantictoast3741 if it’s the little diagram with those tiny green visors then no that’s not what I’m looking for. You’re seriously just being an ass.

[@Thomas-lq6pf]

​@@frantictoast3741 googled it and scrolled for 5 minutes. All there is is Clone HUDs. You can probably imagine it being similar its similar but whatever. Your just being a dickhead for the sport of it i suppose.

[@GGBlaster]

Say what you will about a Stormtrooper’s aim, skill, or tactical sense - they are fanatics, which is exactly what Palpatine wanted to create. Maybe they can’t figure their way around plot armor, but they sure as heck aren’t gonna stop trying, and they’ll die if it means destroying one more enemy of the Empire.

[@ktwei]

The only time they do, they get eaten.

[@LairdErnst]

What’s ironic about that clip of Del Meeko following Iden instead of Hask is he was a stormtrooper, and later a shoretrooper, before he joined Inferno Squad. By the standards that empire set Del should have been more committed to the empire than even imperial pilots like Hask and Iden. But then again, he always struck me as a very moral person even though he served the empire with dedication.

[@GenerationTech]

I think if you survive long enough you become wise to what’s important in life

[@Alexandragon1]

Thx for the video!

[@amarured]

12:40 I thought that role was specifically fulfilled by CompForce?

[@polarbear2697]

Little extra seemingly in the edit and messing with us on your name lol! Must have been having a good time! Wonderful perspective as always ❤.

[@floriantieger491]

Brutal and inhuman and at the same time terrifying and efficient. Believe it or not, sometimes the only way is forward. It's just a shame that Disney never shows any of this and often just portrays them as stupid.

[@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306]

Every faction seems incredibly stupid, like Lucas wasn't innocent the imperials in episode 6 were pretty hilariously incompetent but they weren't as bad as the post endor empire and new Republic in cannon. Especially the new Republic, they just immediately make the exact same mistakes of the old Republic. "Looks like the empire just kinda killed itself, tons of ships and high ranking officers are missing but disband the entire military again anyway"

[@ronjon7942]

Carl? Who TF is Carl?? Where’s Karl? If Troopers were so zealous, how come defection is such a thing with them? Ah, that opener with the Raider turned Corvus is so good. That must have been a huge engine mod, and it looks much better. Does Alan know you’re impersonating him?

[@nomercyinc6783]

in the theoretical reality of regular people becoming stormtroopers the likelyhood of desertion is WAY high. regular people conscripted into war arent ever going to be good at war. little to no training doesnt make anyone a good solider

[@MrSmithSAH]

Carl really knocked it out of the park with this video

[@michaelchristy506]

I still to this day don’t know why the stormtroopers have been called the elite of the empire. There is nothing elite about them, and you can’t make the “elite” of your empire the biggest part of it, otherwise it’s no longer elite but instead the norm. That and also the fact that they have zero aim and zero brains

[@Yacovo]

Thanks for the video.

[@Aberybc29]

Could you talk more about how these units or other units in the empire such as DTs Naval and army troopers approached problems (the rebels in some cases) and how they operated?

[@kdusel1991]

I'm surprised this hasn't really been explored in canon yet.

[@charlesw5919]

Because they're the loyal sons and daughters of the Empire. Long live the Empire!!!

[@billyholland5156]

its kind of funny. in legends, the Moffs continued to maintain territories and major military forces for decades afterward, whereas in new canon the empire folded quickly enough that what had in legends been an external enemy became an internal one. Also...its funny...the empire's cheapskate instincts warred with their desire to terrify everyone with bloated overly huge and expensive terror weapons

[@tatepatrick3095]

6:51 to be fair those people could’ve also been lying and brought in for an interrogation.

[@jacobleroux96]

The Observe and Report clip with the Streaker 😂😂😂😂😂

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Man, there are a lot of Saw Guerrera out there.

[@Palemagpie]

It never gets brought up. But stormtroopers are definitely a more moral army than the clones were. Not from like an individual soldier level. But as a concept. Stormtroopers were citizens of the empire. They were employed. They weren't accelerated aged brainwashed child soldiers. Sure, don't build a fascist army. That's a bad thing. No one should do that. But there were no control chips in the stormtroopers. They were people. Let's face it the republic kinda dropped the ball on what to do with this giant army they were constantly breeding into existence. The clones had to fight just to have names. There was no retirement or after the war scenario in place for them.

[@debbralehrman5957]

Thanks Alan/Carl 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Basebidet0]

13:23 who put Warhammer in my Star Wars

[@ShadowReaper-pu2hx]

_The Acolyte_ makes a Battlefront II cutscene seem like the pinacle of cinema (14:13).

[@codyfairbanks7P269]

Green screen? Or is that your actual location!!! Either way its awesome!!!

[@osirisatot19]

I love your content, but please don't use AI for your thumbnails. Pay an actual artist instead of stealing from them, use a stock image, or just do some intentionally shitty photoshop that is funny.

[@smartass0124]

The difference between political right left is those in power . It started with parliament . those who stold for status quo sat on the right thoze stold for change sat on the left

[@andersonic]

Garth Ennis' comic "Trooper" from Legends Star Wars Tales is an all time great depiction of a Stormtrooper's career from recruitment to death. Relentlessly violent so they're desensitized to committing atrocities and suicide tactics. The Empire has no shortage of bodies to put through the grinder, like the current Russian army under Putin.

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Doesn't Russia have population collapse since 90s...

[@kamotrof]

“Defecation” lol 😂 died laughing.

[@NarrowElm]

"Just as much as I want a monopoly over ewok cheeks" is wild

[@Jurassiccanonking]

Wait, I was just starting to understand, I thought he was Alan. Now he’s Carl??? Then he was Alan again.

[@jasonjacobson4990]

Thanks Carl. I still miss the clone troopers. They were the bestest

[@GraySkyBricks]

The thumbnail is so sick bro

[@Solly-Tom]

It wouldn't be difficult to separate the Stormtroopers from the rest of the Army. A chain of command is meant to be distinct, so a given unit would receive orders only from officers with authority to give orders to that unit. Simply establish a Stormtrooper chain of command that goes to Palpatine and doesn't include generals in the regular Army.

[@rypoleon6932]

These videos are dope. On a side note, is Observe and Report worth watching?

[@GenerationTech]

i would say that the clips on the internet highlight the best parts of the film. I remember watching in theaters and just thinking this was dark and just average,... but now that i'm older i get it. The movie is really about mental illness, broken dreams and the anger that surrounds it all.

[@rypoleon6932]

@@GenerationTech It sounds like it is pretty interesting, I'll have to give it a look, thanks for the response man!

[@rypoleon6932]

@GenerationTech I finally watched it. It was a good watch. It was really sad. The characters were believable. It probably doesn't seem like it to most folks, but that level of disfunction can and does exist. I got a lot out of watching it. Even though it wasn't the most technically well produced film, it struck a chord with me.

[@tommytwotacos8106]

The training focussed on following orders mirror the US military's doctrine rather tightly. Starting as as the most raw boot private on your first day, the NCOs begin acclimating you to following even the most inane and seemingly pointless orders, like moving a particular rock from here to over there, only later to order that you move that same rock back to the spot you'd found it originally. That way, when you're in battle and you squad leader orders to go straight up the middle of the main road and attack a fortified position head on, you're more likely to follow the order without stopping to ask why or think about the potential consequences.

[@johnshort5830]

Yoooo, 😂😂😂, what was that about ewok cheeks? 😅

[@davidsmith1310]

Did the Empire produce elite clone units to be Palpatine's personal army inside his personal army?

[@brandonholland929]

Man if you hear Carson Tevas without looking at the vid, he sounds exactly like Brad Pitt

[@Field_MarshalWithanENERGYS-p3m]

These guys would make a great guard regiment

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Mon Mothma's greatest flaw is her idealism. Idealists rarely understand the mentality of fanatics.

[@SplashOfOrange]

Disney totally needs to hire you to consult for them to help them write engaging stories with interestingly complex characters. Your content has made the Star Wars universe so much richer for me, outstanding!

[@otminealnamer1385]

Man I wish to some day get a game like Republic Commando, but as Imperials. Would even be really cool if in a sequel era to really demonstrate the confusion and frustration with a shattered chain of command, and the fear of an organization you've been indoctrinated into believing are barbaric terrorists suddenly arising to power. Would make a great narrative of brotherhood and a cause to live and die for vs a truth that threatens to break everything a soldier thought was right. I imagine a lot of stormtroopers knew that what they did wasn't "good", but overrode that reluctance with a genuine zealous belief that it was "right" - that it was the way things had to be, or should be, for fear of something worse.

[@TitusSmith-i6r]

I 🧡💛 Generation Tech

[@arbiter690]

If that's the case what of Stormtrooper defectors like the one guy at the Aldani heist? There are also others so based on this how and why did they break away?

[@Wedgekree]

Makes you wonder about those rare Stormtroopers that deserted or defected. What was it that drove them to do so during the era of the Empire?

[@Cobra-13769]

What is that clip yo 😂😂😂 naked dude gets shot

[@Vistico93]

A movie called "Observe and Report"

[@kenlantz4906]

"Lack of funding." Toooooo TRUE!

[@GazingTrandoshan]

Stormtroopers will always be such a funny enemy , schrodingers soldiers

[@iamtheJEST]

wasnt qorl a tie pilot in heirs to the force?

[@cpob2013]

Remember a japanese soldier held out in the jungle for 30 years

[@DesmondTroy420]

Without watching? Band of brothers. They stuck with each other.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

So basically Average WW2 Japanese in space

[@nomercyinc6783]

civilians who never served in any military have no idea what regular ass people storm troopers would do. they were not bad ass ruthless people. they were regular joes

[@casualsleepingdragon8501]

It'd be cool to see what's going on between a new hope and empire strikes back or empire and return of the jedi

[@cactus472]

Awesome thumbnail

[@russelstudios2187]

Your name is Carl now?

[@isaackim7675]

Is he under the influence of those dolphins?

[@debelmeis2311]

Always was

[@cedrickulacz8468]

Uhhhh, while the information in the essay was actually pretty good like always the use of "defecation" instead of "Defection" had me chuckling. So the Imperial forces were suffering the effects of pooping. XD

[@charleshixon3558]

Where did you get that Blade Runner Window?

[@TheGreyGhost873]

1:05 what is this from?

[@anextremlyobbisehoovy8254]

Mandalorian season 3

[@cal593]

Her name is Gina carano.

[@kamotrof]

@generationtech Is your name Carl or Allen? Or did you recently change your name? Lol

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Makes sense Stormtroopers were elites for a reason

[@Jacksonburch143]

Carl is carrying Star Wars rn

[@Sombra1418]

How do you do the backround screen?

[@Agentcproductionss]

Your name is Alan, carl

[@na3044]

They really remind me of the italian MVSN in WWII.

[@angryvaultguy]

The planet broke before the guard did Now get ready for The empire broke before the stormtroopers did

[@PELTIER5]

Makes sense to use citizenship instead of clones because who would you want to fight in a rebellion, some clone that you don't know and is different from you, or your neighbor who has a life, a family and passions.

[@carlkaczmarski3221]

You’re not Carl I’m Carl

[@GenerationTech]

we are carl

[@NovaDeb]

Your name is not Carl.😂 Your name is Alan. I was paying attention.

[@mw9688]

What is this background music?

[@21Downdog]

love it

[@SplashOfOrange]

Uh... "Carl"? What'd I miss?

[@BugRib]

Hi Carl. My name is Brahman. Nice to meet me.

[@PirateTitanOfficial]

These guys are tough bastards to fight in Battlefront.

[@juniorberns]

The Stormtroopers that would be the last to surrender would be the template for the first order assault troops. How much of a gap do you think between this point and the fall of the new Republic and the rise of the first order? The reason I ask is because of the importance I think of what was the Twilight squadron being the center of the rebels and its discipline, as well as the intelligence corps of the empire as well as its own discipline. Then how once they had become more frontline, the rest of the empire military became more fashionable independent on the lower admirals and generals that were already cheating the empire if I returning to the slave economics of the Old Republic. Which had been once again put under liberation by the empire. Also the rest of the empire military was still connected, but without leadership from either Old Republic rebellion or rebel alliance and imperial.

[@merikano2985]

Leeroy Jenkins!

[@monkofbob]

The Bens! The Bens! Where are the Bens Allan? I demand answers