The REAL SIZE of STAR TREK SHIPS: Pt 1, Federation Vessels

Ever wondered how big the Enterprise was? Or if Star Trek has any ships that could compare in size with a Star Wars Imperial Star Destroyer? Watch and find out...
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[@DaGahbageMan]

Converted measurements: Runabout: 75.4 ft Defiant: 557.7 ft Voyager: 1,125.3 ft Enterprise: 977.6 ft Enterprise D: 2,106.3 ft Enterprise E: 2,247.3 ft JJ Enterprise: 2,493 ft Vengeance: 4,921.2 ft

[@GenerationTech]

Thanks, we pinned your comment to the top for people's reference.

[@John-rh3dh]

Kind of unrelated. The Star Trek Online game has an Enterprise F at 1000m or 3,280ft.

[@oddish2253]

Theres the ridiculous size of Voth Fortress ships

[@imtoostonedtocomeupwithaus5976]

I don't know shit about Star Trek.

[@JeanLucCaptain]

put them nest to an eldar craftworld and see who is bigger!

[@TPRQnet]

Me: "I'm not a Star Trek nerd." Me: Stops the video to examine every diagram of the ships.

[@AvianSavara]

USS Voyager could theoretically land squarely in a small park that's near my appartment. I could have a Federation ship in my own neighbourhood!

[@bomberdomme7308]

[@musicalhistory4392]

Do you so happen to live in L.A.? If you do according to "Future's End" Voyager supposedly did at least do a flyby of your house back in the 90s.

[@soljafon]

@Dominic Ankai your house must be massive

[@notrackscntfndme6156]

Theoretically, sure I got you, wink wink nod say no more....

[@CRXnick]

Federation: we don't build battle ships Borg: we are the Borg, surrende- Federation: BUILD BATTLESHIPS NOW!!

[@davidtuttle7556]

The New Jersey was a dreadnought. The Borg toasted her.

[@curseofgladstone4981]

To be fair even then their ships maintain a multipurpose role. Yes they are as heavily armed as they can get but they still carry science's labs and such. And of course with the borg you either give it all you have or die in an instant.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

But definately still don't call them battleships... Then it's not as bad.

[@Official.ORIENTCAVALIER]

Another example of battleship: USS Vengeance

[@Mattfromthepast]

Not so much the Federation arguing for battleships as it was Sisko and no one argues with Sisko and lives so he got his battleship and since he designed it of course it was made to bitchslap anything that got in his way.

[@martyg8137]

Star Trek: Convincing semi-fictional science Star Wars: No science at all

[@gordendavis3585]

Star wars science is valid.. The society is 1000s of years more advanced than startrek. Hyper drivers travel inside subspace is plausible.

[@Ironfangzu]

@@gordendavis3585 meh..Star Wars tech has sidearms that fire death rays, except the bolts fired from these ray guns are so slow that most people can dodge them easily, even casually. Also, they seem to have an internal program that makes them hit nowhere near where they are aimed. Come on, how advanced can Star Wars tech be if their weapons are less useful than a gun-powder revolver? Also, they build moon-sized, planet destroying space stations, and they they put some kind of weird ignition point right near the surface, where one stray bolt of energy hits it, and..kaboom! the entire death star blows up. Star Trek tech was designed for adult audiences. The science is not real, but always plausible. Star Wars tech was aimed at guys the age of Annakin when we first meet him. Impressive as hell if you're about 6, but stupid to think about as an adult.

[@adriannavarro2536]

Ironfangzu Swahili

[@pmadood6970]

@@Ironfangzu Well, that's one way to tell the stormtroopers aim joke.

[@TheRenProject]

Star Wars... a long long time ago, yet somehow, in the future.

[@rhelyk7893]

"Voyager has the ability to land on the surface of a planet, which sets it apart from other Federation ships" Enterprise D - "Hold my beer"

[@bernhardg6187]

Just had a flashback in my head ,😂

[@MikeIsCannonFodder]

It's a bit generous to call that "landing."

[@Dragonwing5036]

Without sounding like a traitor to the Enterprise. I LOVE Voyager!!!

[@SiY11]

I mean, it did "land" sooooooo.

[@benjaminrobledo5466]

Same with the Vengeance and JJEnterprise? 😂

[@juanelorriaga2840]

Dude what’s with NX-01??? No love for Captain Archers ship

[@josephperkins4080]

Naww he just didn't wanna mess with a glorified rowboat 😆

[@davepastern]

@@josephperkins4080 Earth's first warp 5 ship...how dare you call it a glorified rowboat!

[@tjeerdtrekkie1030]

We don't talk about Star Trek Enterprise...

[@davepastern]

@@tjeerdtrekkie1030 snob.

[@tjeerdtrekkie1030]

@@davepastern 😂😂

[@flatheadgg2443]

Missing ones: USS reliant USS excelsior NX 01 Enterprise For non federation lists: Klingon/romulan ships Dominion/cardassian/breen ships Borg ships Star Wars is making Star Trek how awesome is that!!!

[@12a-l1z]

Flathead Gg244 the reliant is in there

[@xesior]

The Nova Class ships are missing. For example the USS Equinox or the retrofitted model USS Rhode Island. Incredible ship that could be considered a successor to the Defiant class ship if they were to be fitted as one. (Approximately same size, but faster)

[@confusedflourbeetle4734]

Do the borg vessels (spheres, unimatrix one, cube, probes and pyramids).

[@oddish2253]

and Voth Fortress ships

[@Plasmacore_V]

IIRC the cubes are 1 km squared per side. So for comparison, its not as long as a Imperial class SD but much more massive.

[@confusedflourbeetle4734]

Plasmacore V The cubes are 13*13*13Km.

[@Plasmacore_V]

ah we're both wrong. They're 3040m x 3040m x 3040 m.

[@lilaclizard4504]

Clearly we need a video on this! It gets my vote! I'd like to see some of the other species ships too, Klingon etc & the aerodynamics of some of them, especially the Borg cubes!

[@MarlonSardini]

"These go to eleven" haha

[@raizin4908]

That's one louder!

[@RSTI191]

I wonder if they serve miniature bread in the galley...

[@mrMankx]

Omg lol

[@ssdravidian]

after that long awkward pause LOL !

[@cristsan4171]

Yes sure, 11 inches longer than 11 meters.

[@lazerguy253]

The Defiant class wasn't the only warship, just the only warship pre-Dominion War, During and after the Dominion War there were many warships designed and produced. Some examples are: Akira class, Sovereign class, Prometheus Class, and more. The Prometheus class was so powerful that in a Voyager episode (I don't remember which one) the Romulans captured it while it was on a testing cruise. It had a skeleton crew, otherwise they couldn't have captured it, but if the Romulans, who had very powerful warships anyway, wanted it's tech and firepower, then they know it was powerful. In order to capture and escort it back to Romulan space, they sent three D'deridex class warships, which are powerful enough to 1v1 a Galaxy class, and made Picard try and avoid confrontation at all costs with them in Next Generation (mostly). To recapture the Prometheus, Starfleet sent two Defiant class vessels and one Akira. Keep in mind that this is in the middle of the Dominion war, so Starfleet wouldn't send three of their most powerful ships to take it back unless it were important and very dangerous. One thing that made the Prometheus so powerful was that it had state of the art torpedoes, phasers, shielding, and could split itself into 3 pieces that could work together and each had significant firepower on their own. They were each basically a mini deployable warship. Sorry about the rambling, but I'm just trying to prove that Starfleet had more than one kind of warship.

[@tinamoul]

How dare you, the original Enterprise is a beauty. She is a master class in ship design, that thing is beautiful from every angle.

[@devmin_dot_exe6551]

thereign it's only a liked design because it's iconic.

[@tinamoul]

@@devmin_dot_exe6551 Nope, It's just beautiful, the Enterprise D is iconic too, and it's not a beautiful ship.

[@sashawaxman807]

It's a bit of an ugly goose. Too elementary in its geometry without any compound curves. But amazing for the time and for all time now.

[@danarseti]

You tell 'em, thereign. The original Connie is the best looking starship in the entire franchise, viewed from any angle. All of the others are variations and copies, some looking pretty decent, but not one of the remakes and variations all look good from any angle. In fact, some of them from certain angles look butt-ugly. That's not just my opinion, but I'm sticking by it.

[@Ambaryerno]

Nah, I have to go with the refit from the TOS movies. The JJ-Prise, however is the WORST. There isn't a single angle from which that monstrosity looks good.

[@wesleycurrier13]

having star trek and star wars aspects together made me laugh xD.

[@aperson673]

Wesley Currier this is why they should be kept away from each other! (I’m a fan of both) (But Star Wars was better until, um, DISNEY)

[@oscarfoley511]

Only a sith deals in absolutes!! Wait isn't that an absolute?

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

UltraBrick studios finally someone who agrees

[@gong1616]

It all about midichlorians, ya?

[@JeanLucCaptain]

no, it's a logic paradox!

[@yeenmachine206]

I keep asking that myself

[@expliteronboom3075]

UltraBrick studios Yea, just like when an evolutionist says to me, "There are no absolutes, so I can believe what I want and you can believe what you want."

[@sivaschuh4396]

Star Trek is my first love, so I appreciated this vid. Also love Star Wars, so I'm onboard with your channel. Thanks!

[@guillaumekaas6505]

Aaaah JJTrek ... " Imma make a bigger, sexier, tougher, meaner Star Trek ! " :D

[@cainsolo1]

And slap da sh!t outta EVERY Star Trek fan in the last 50 years!!! FU jjabrams

[@3Rayfire]

"Sexier" Kirk's Reputation: Am I a joke to you?

[@jayhom5385]

@@3Rayfire Jerk: Let's beam down to the planet so I can find a sexy alien woman and take her to bed. Schlock: You always do, Captain Jerk: Yeah, aint I something? ---ST Parody from the 70's I heard on a radio show, Dr. Demento.

[@danielberwick]

I like both, I prefer Star Trek. We all have our favourite, and neither choice is wrong. There's room for both in all of our lives.

[@jonaskromwell4464]

There's no more room for Star Wars in my life since Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams ruined the legacy.

[@A5traTheSuccubus]

Sure but if we all want our own Runabout wheres the X-Wing gonna go?

[@MuzzCat05]

5:04 . Honestly, perfect opportunity to put something in

[@miner1611]

Thank you, your one of the only people i have seen that like both star wars and star trek......Why can't they just get along?

[@The_Irish_Fox]

I like both franchises

[@phoenixone568]

Jaycewan Thomas I have the mind to like star Trex but I found it boring after 30 episodes

[@redshirt0479]

I like both, and Earl put it the best.

[@2MeterLP]

because the Enterprise is 90% weak points and looks stupid. Seriously though, they may be both sci fi, but they are vastly diffrent genres. The whole writing philosophy is diffrent.

[@redshirt0479]

"Enterprise is 90% weak points " Except she isn't. If you bothered to investigate, you'd know that along with the why the designs are a certain way. Plus, people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. "looks stupid." Or you can't appreciate a good design when the hull isn't covered in greebles. "Seriously though, they may be both sci fi, but they are vastly diffrent genres. The whole writing philosophy is different." I can only partially agree with that. Star Wars isn't science fiction, it's science fantasy.

[@AndrewJamesWilliams]

What about the Odyssey-class ships featured in Star Trek Online which is kind of an official future tie in to the Next Generation/DS9/Voyager era. Those are 1021 meters long with the newest being the Enterprise-F after the Enterprise-E was destroyed by the Undine a.k.a Species 8472.

[@stargazeronesixseven]

USS Entreprise with her Disc front & twin exotic energy engine pods trailing on her rear , is one of the iconic ship in the SciFi movie genre ... May All Be Well & Prosper! 🖖♥️🌷🕯

[@miguelarivera]

I love it, now I know the true size of these nonexistent space.props, sweet!

[@nunyabiznez6381]

The true size runs from about three feet to about fifteen feet. They are also mostly made of plastic and plywood.

[@val13c59]

This is awesome. My imagination is like traveling at warp speed. Thank you.

[@WhatALoadOfTosca]

For a star wars channel your trek videos are entertaining and engaging. Really nice job. If have no interest in star wars but love these videos. Some of the best trek videos about :)

[@jjtint]

You had me at ‘Enterprise’ 😍

[@MysteriousMiddleEast]

The Enterprise E is also a warship, built for the same reason as the Defiant: Borg and the Dominion.

[@David-nu8lg]

midgetydeath But it was firstly build to face the Borg. That was the main idea of it.

[@61881N5]

Sovereign Class was first "true battleship" dedicated to combat Borg. Defiant, Akira, Steamrunner, etc (to name just few) were attack frigs and fire support.

[@curseofgladstone4981]

@@61881N5 If we want to be even more technical I'd call the E a fast battleship. As yes it's combat ready but it's also pretty fast depending on which statistic for its warp you go for.

[@Intolerance404]

I must admit, I'm glad someone did this video and put it up on here. I am so tired of having to try and explain this stuff to family and friends. Thank you!

[@andrewgardiner1077]

I would love to have seen the Akira and Excelsior class vessels as well. Hell, in the original series films, Excelsior was like the deuteragonist vessel to the Enterprise's protagonist.

[@Kaynos]

According to a few sources, warp 8 is around 1000 times the speed of light. That ship goes 3 times that fast. So it gives something like that : 1000 time the speed of light = Warp 8 3000 time the speed of light = Warp 9.90 8500 time the speed of light = Warp 9.99

[@mrprimor227]

Save yourself the trouble there are Cochranes for each warp factor which allows measuring of how fast a ship is moving.

[@8698gil]

Kaynos I always assumed that warp speed correlated with light speed. Like warp 6 was 6 x the speed of light.

[@mrprimor227]

@@8698gil it's an exponential scale.

[@8698gil]

unknown user I didn’t say I was right. I happen to suck at math and anything technical. Just showing my ignorance.

[@alekszen92]

@@8698gil I may be wrong, but I think warp 1 is equivalent to lightspeed. But from there its an exponential scale as stated above. It wouldn't make much sense for warp 5 be lightspeed x5. Think about it. Vulcan is 16 lightyears away. That mean light has to travel for 16 years to reach that far. With warp 5 it would still take 8 years... And Vulcan is in the neighbourhood.

[@HazySkies]

5:04 "You know what else is approximately that size~" With that tone I was expecting a dirty euphemism, but the actual reference was probably even funnier xD

[@billlumburg7594]

“These go to eleven” 🤣

[@papa_xan]

How about the Excelsior? Or the Enterprise -C? Also, a video on the non-federation ships would be great,.

[@kjk7611]

Papa Xan Or RELIANT & GRISSOM?

[@dragonfly492]

Excelsior is 467m/ Enterprise C is 526m

[@BleakVision]

The hell, I love the USS Pasteur!

[@alguemaleatorio8713]

but is so... Ugly...

[@raphaeldemo9966]

Speak geek to me any day. STNG lover here. Thanks for the post.

[@Jycatgc6282]

Thank you for making your video in captions. A deaf person can greatly appreciate a Star Trek issues in captions. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽

[@Ambaryerno]

You forgot the Excelsior and Miranda-classes. Both workhorse starships that still saw extensive use in the 24th century despite being nearly a century old.

[@eternalbastion7454]

if you know the story of the real USS enterprise (CVN-6), you'll be surpriseed to find out it's much more awesome than that of the movies. She's the most decorated ship of the US navy.

[@MikhaelAhava]

Heaven's Shepherd Yes, it was full of bloodshed! The Lucky E, one moment you're the last carrier in the Pacific, the next moment you're being replaced and scrapped.

[@eternalbastion7454]

MiguelPmpM it's not her fate that made her a legend, it was what she had accomplished, like you said, she once had became the last carrier in the Pacific theater, but has keep the US Pacific Fleet afloat for months. She became the greatest threat to the Japanese Army and Fleet despite having very serious damages, her amazing crew has kept her surviving that she was dubbed the "Grey Ghost". It was Enterprise vs the Empire of Japan. It was sad though that the US navy had to scrap her.... 😢😢😢😢

[@BeardsleyMark]

Yeah, for a couple months the Pacific fleet was down to just one carrier, the Enterprise after losing 4 carriers (Lexington, Yorktown, Wasp and Hornet) and the USS Langley (kind of a carrier) in the first 11 months of the war. I think the Essex entered the Pacific in January or February of 1943. So at the beginning of 1943 it was just the Grey Ghost. But by August of 1945 there were 97 carriers in the Pacific fleet if you count the escort and light carriers. And that doesn't include the Brits or the Australians who had a sizable fleet of carriers as well! 20 of the US carriers were fleet carriers and 77 were light or escort carriers. The US had 725 destroyers... Amazing!

[@a.morphous66]

And don't forget CVN-63 and the planned supercarrier that hasn't yet been built that both share its name!

[@65olsen]

recently bought 1/350th merit kit of enterprise CV-6 to go with Tamiya's enterprise CVN-65 kit and polar lights TOS enterprise and Refit enterprise all in 1/350th. TOS enterprise is 34 inches long Refit is 36 inches long carrier CVN-65 is 38 inches long and WWII Yorktown class enterprise is about 27 inches long.

[@AaronCMounts]

Now, consider these sizes and volumes of the ships' hulls and compare them to their crew complements. You'll find star ships are very sparsely populated for their size and available floor-space, even with exceptionally generous crew quarters taken into account.

[@michaelfajardo1795]

You guys should do the Star Wars invasion of the Star Trek universe. For example Federation, Borg, Klingon or alll vs Empire, Republic, or Separatists or alll.

[@bunzeebear2973]

Also would like to add in Andromeda, loaded with Nova Bombs and their nemesis the Mhgog and their world ship...just including everybody

[@colormedubious4747]

Who wouldn't shell out 20 bucks to see Vader single-handedly take out an entire Borg cube armed with nothing but his lightsaber? Just imagine the deep cyborg-vs-cyborg subtext! I'm in!

[@user2C47]

the United Federation of Planets would probably first try to discuss peaceful relations, until they are attacked, the Federation would win the war because they have photon torpedoes, transphasic torpedoes (maybe, 1 can destroy a Borg Cube), and phasers, which are more powerful than blasters (comparing hand phasers to blasters), and a greater quantity of vessels.

[@Island_Line_Rail_Productions]

and transporters....just beam a torpedo onto the enemy ship ...since they can't get rid of it ....bye bye

[@lilaclizard4504]

rofl@Paul! good one!

[@louisporcellini3756]

USS Prometheus is in my opinion the most bad ass ship. About the size of an intrepid but could split into multi vector assault mode splinting into 3 separate vessels that could all attack at the same time.

[@lilaclizard4504]

and the best part is after it accidentally did so, one more word & then there was no more need for any tactical input from 2 clueless holograms who couldn't even figure out how to use thrusters or impulse drive! Can't steer the ship or turn on coms but they can defeat an entire enemy fleet!

[@noahb-x6j]

The Prometheus was an impressive vessel, but it was still a prototype. And it also had some pretty pathetic shields. One shot from a D'Eridex lowered it 20%.

[@lil18thletterking77]

What happens if one of the vector piece of it is damaged?

[@animateddepression]

Remember how Enterprise-D could split? Remember how they stopped doing it because it made absolutely no goddamn sense? In reality, especially with a ship as large as the heavy cruisers, you have support craft. Fighters, supply vessels, runabouts like shuttles, etc. That's how you "multi vector" assault. Or just run with 3 Defiant-class escorts.

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

Star Wars and Star Trek are both great shows. Star Wars is more action, Star Trek more science stuff.

[@supertekkel1]

I mis captain Archers ship, the NX-01 Enterprise

[@noahb-x6j]

I love the Akira, an unspoken hero of Star Trek. s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/07/58/a5/0758a5045b842676f02039c0972cf53b.jpg

[@tythevirus7968]

Archer was the man

[@animateddepression]

Fucking non-cannon garbage....

[@AlbertoRodriguez-lt2tq]

There's a NX-02 ship on the 3rd new star trek movie, it looks so close to NX-01 it's reminiscent of NX-01.

[@Intolerance404]

USS Franklin? I also know that the Columbia NX-02 was shown in DS9. It was crashed on some planet in the Gamma Quadrant.

[@oninoni]

Woop woop star trek!

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

Johnny Delgado gtfo you trek trash

[@oninoni]

Clash Mine bro Studios why can't we like both? Trek and wars...

[@juandiegodrago4779]

Clash Mine bro Studios fuck you, peace of shit.

[@strangev]

Piece vs Peace, get your universal tranlator fixed !

[@Chris_Sokol]

The Akira Class will always remain one of my favorite ships of all time.

[@anwaraisling]

As with Star Wars, there are a lot of awesome ships in Star Trek. You should check out the TrekYards KZbin channel to see what I mean. Too many to mention here.

[@GenerationTech]

Thanks, will do

[@LeoInterVir]

Generation Tech if you have time on a different video can you talk about things the Federation worked on or researched that could have become weapons of planetary devastation as in the Omega molecule and Genesis Device.

[@colormedubious4747]

Activate the Omega-13!

[@dezstepz2427]

Colorme Dubious bahahaha

[@juandiegodrago4779]

Jui-Wei Yang Star Wars is more real ??? Your joking right ? Lol

[@helikopter4831]

Enterprise F: Glorious-looking Enterprise: Pretty decent Enterprise C: Kind of ew Enterprise J: OH GOD HELP MY RETINAS ARE BURNING

[@FURNACE_YGO]

Enterprise B for Beautifull

[@EvanG529]

Isn't it the E, not F?

[@peters1127]

"These go to 11" Love it! Thank you for an informative video, ready for part II.

[@DaveLennonCopeland]

I like both Star Trek (for the science fiction) and Star Wars (for the science fantasy), they are both good universes. I don't like the reboot (JJ Abrams) of Star Trek or the 3 prequels of Star Wars. The ships and tech of both, are just as good as one and other.

[@ggsimmonds1]

I like both franchises as well, and it is kinda funny. I'm not a fan of the JJ Trek because I felt like it went too deeply into Science fantasy, and the SW prequels dipped a little more into Science fiction (midichlorians).

[@DaveLennonCopeland]

ggsimmonds1 - Liking both and not liking JJ Trek is quite common among my peer group. Midichlorians, what a plot bodge that is! It makes the Force seem other than super natural, if you know what I mean.

[@MrMikellsof88]

I'm big on both universes as well. I did like the SW prequels though, but not TFA because it is a blatant remake of the original ANH. JJTrek is good sci fi ... but it's terrible Trek. If you're able to watch it and ignore everything Trek about it, it's somewhat entertaining (until you get to the part about a black hole being a means of A) Time Travel, B) Faster than warp travel, *and* C) a massive destructive force all in one.)

[@AvangionQ]

Comparing the ships technical specifications. Star Trek had better computing power, holodecks, sensors, shields, weapons guidance. Star Wars had droids & faster ships.

[@a.morphous66]

AvangionQ Where did you get shields from? I don’t see any real superiority considering that those things go down from so much as getting hit with a rock. Star Wars also has superior medical tech. Look up bacta.

[@fombocombo]

I'm never expecting Star Trek to be here, well because the gate is already opened. STAR WARS vs STAR TREK tbh.

[@omegaroguelp]

Neo-Nuclearcrazed no thatll bring that discussion to this channel

[@justafellowviewerhere.p6026]

Neo-Nuclearcrazed why can't we get along with each other

[@stevenrayshell5700]

Gotta add the Discovery, Deep Space nine, Romulan War Birds, and Klingon Battle Cruisers. Awesome video!

[@wirdoworld]

what about the Excalibur class star ship. or what about other "species" like Klingon ships or Borg.

[@GenerationTech]

We will do that as part two, probably next weekend. Klingon ships, Romulan, Ferengi, Borg Cube etc...

[@omegaroguelp]

Generation Tech there are way more borg ships than the borg cube

[@snonsig2688]

Generation Tech pleaaase do the scitmar class war bird! if you don't know what i mean it's the romulan ship of the antagonist in star trek nemesis that big one with the big wings and stuff

[@wirdoworld]

OmegaRogueLP yeah I think I remember at least twelve

[@agenteggboy9526]

Do a "How old would prequel characters be in the sequel trilogy"

[@Fektthis]

who needs battleships when your science exploration vessels have enough firepower to level a planet? it's like taking GreenPeace's Rainbow Warrior and giving it 5-inch 62-caliber Mk 45 cannons and some nuclear torpedos...

[@alex_inside]

And they still get messed up by smaller more primitive ships.

[@huyphucmai2661]

It depends. Before the Dominion war, Starfleet's vessels couldn't compete with Dominion or Borg vessels, and sometimes even smaller, more primitive vessels.

[@Hateious]

I think as much as they could orbital bomb a planet they had a prime directive and guessing would not look good on the federation being conqourers lol

[@chrisbrown1241]

Okay, my name is Chris Brown (really) and I watched this explanation of Star Trek ships. I did like the easy reference to actual US ships. Plus you did a great job! Excellent! Two thumbs up!

[@DiscoveryNewsNow]

how is comparing the Enterprise D to iss supposed to tell us how big it is? Most people haven't been to iss in years

[@GenerationTech]

+Lisa Adler yrag come to think of it, last time I went was about 5 years ago

[@itsmetheherpes1750]

the earth is flat

[@Astraeus..]

This comment just made my entire week :D

[@jayknowles2146]

More like ever in their lifetime

[@jayoleary968]

"This is the Bridge, please hail Sanitation Engineering"

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

This guy has to remember that the warp scale was revised in the Star Trek universe after the commissioning of the Excelsior Class with the launching of the U.S.S. Excelsior NX/NCC-2000 which was originally being used as a prototype for Starfleet's TransWarp drive but after the failure of the prototype the Excelsior was refitted with conventional warp drive but because of her success and the ships design continued on into the 24th century and it was the reason why the warp scale was redefined by the late 2290's.

[@RebSike]

Did you just use "adjust pitch angle" as an example of nonsense technobabble? lmao

[@DCMutE27]

Is that sarcasm?

[@SM_zzz]

@@DCMutE27 is that ironically rhetorical?

[@DCMutE27]

@@SM_zzz Yes..?

[@markbehiter523]

Definitely not technobabble....

[@3Rayfire]

I caught that too.

[@thegreyghost5846]

Technologically star trek owns star wars

[@optillian4182]

You spelled techno babble wrong.

[@justafellowviewerhere.p6026]

Zach Jones wow

[@Oblivisci........]

So true. I love Star Wars for the lore and whole "galactic civil war" plot, but I loved Star Trek first and will always love it just a bit more. The serie's plot is further explained because it is a show lasting for years, character's development is apparent rather than just mysteriously thrown at you through the new movie (like star wars), and the technology is explainable through present day theory. The only thing that I dont like is the serious lack of realistic violence and how it portrays everything as being jolly when in reality things like the holocaust the Cardassians bring about in DS9 would be very dark and subversive.

[@FlameMammoth]

No it doesn't. Let me know when the Federation can build a moon sized space station that can fly from one side of the Galaxy to the other within a few days and then convert a planet into an expanding asteroid field. Hell, even a fringe organization (First Order) can build what's basically a Dyson Sphere; you know the thing that Picard and company were in utter awe over the sight of?

[@retroprime9216]

I guess you've never heard of the Genesis Device...

[@daveco3217]

My boi credit shifu just appeared on my recommendation to talk about trek stuff. You the best like omg I didn’t know you did this!

[@zachary1176]

Star Trek Came FIRST!!!

[@agentrabbit186]

Panera is there a show not a movie get it right

[@CandelaZ]

but these go to 11...

[@tubebility]

CandelaZ Technically... there is no such thing as warp 11, because after the warp 10 ceiling, then comes transwarp.

[@Elemiriel]

tubebility thanks Data :)

[@tinbarbeque6778]

Calvin Hart wrong. Star trek TOS was 1966-1969. First movie (ST TMP) Came out in 1979.

[@josephperkins4080]

THEIR fake science gave us a lot of stuff like touch screne tech which was amazing to even seen on a tv show back when I was a teen in the 80s when this show

[@Graymenn]

fake science can not give you anything but misinformation, your logic is flawed.

[@josephperkins4080]

@@Graymenn there was no touch screen technologies until after star trek next generation came out and inspired it...so Ur logic us flawed not mine

[@josephperkins4080]

@@Graymenn you just cant admit that some of today's tech was inspired by a tv can you? Hell everyone admits the original show inspired the creation of the cell phone! So just give up your argument

[@Graymenn]

@@josephperkins4080 i think radios inspired cell phones infinitely more than Gene did

[@Graymenn]

@@josephperkins4080 tard

[@oliversmith9200]

Great work-play. Thanks. Note: The Olympic class hospital ship derived from one of the original Enterprise concepts. Its now much later appearance as hospital ship can be appreciated as a tribute to the concept work of the early '60's. :)

[@johnbockelie3899]

Then in the mirror universe, the I.S.S. Enterprise is the most evil ship in the fleet. No one compares to it.

[@Mister__Jey]

Warp 8 is 1024c. And 3 Times faster would bei 3072c which is warp 9.90417

[@connorhorman]

Is that TNG Scale or Original Scale?

[@Mister__Jey]

@@connorhorman the one from Michael okuda

[@DavidLopez-op4zb]

Right, It was said in one chapter that there can be no warp 10 because it means that is in everywhere at the same time. But what can a Star Wars fan know? you have to consider that not only travel faster than light speed but make calculations to fit timeline witch is the bigger problem

[@amehak1922]

Everyone knows Star trek is better than Star wars

[@djmace9029]

Everyone knows you are wrong

[@rorolonglegs4594]

@@Sebi20070 completely agree

[@jameshughen3507]

I liked this video. I gave a great size comparison to real things we see. Great job.

[@sporkeh90]

Star Trek is Science fiction, Star Wars is Science fantasy, I hate it when people say "Star wars" when I say I love science fiction...

[@anonb4632]

Julian R There are a few bits of science fiction in it. It falls into the space opera category

[@anonb4632]

Steve Bergman A bit unfair... SW is far more geared towards children who don't know better.

[@anonb4632]

Steve Bergman 😁 Some are, but plenty are genuinely very young. I will watch some of the SW films but they appeal more to my inner child too! Trek appeals to me more as an adult. There are aspects of both which annoy me, but for characterisation, plot & concept Trek wins hands down. Except DS9, but let's not talk about DS9.

[@a.morphous66]

I would attack you for your blatant disregard of Star Wars, but I won’t because I’m not a basement-dwelling degenerate. Long live the Galactic Empire.

[@vonfaustien3957]

seeing as space opera which star wars falls under is a sub genra of scifi and all scifi falls under fantasy the whole its not real scifi thing rings kind of hollow particularly given they kind of asinine bullshit trek passes off as science. sure star wars writers know jack shit about science but they dont pretend to as opposed to trek which is full of nonsensical science sounding buzzwords in technobabble explanations that would make anyone with even a high school science course roll there eyes at the misuse of the terms. which is worse to tell the story you want and not bother with explaining the tech or bogging down the story with a butchered bastardization of science terms tossed in randomly to try and sound smart? star trek is at its best when its a character driven show exploring themes of humanity, philosophy and exploration not when its misusing science words to sound smart. oh and if you want to act superior about liking real scifi try reading some actual hard scifi and not pushing trek as being scientific.

[@chrisn4315]

Other missing ship classes are: --- Akira Class --- Ambassador Class --- Nebula Class --- Steamrunner Class --- Norway Class --- Miranda Class --- Constellation Class (e.g. Picard's "Stargazer") --- Delta Flyer (from Star Trek Voyager) --- Nova Class (from Star Trek Voyager: Episode: "Equinox") --- NX Class (from Star Trek "Enterprise") ---- Scout Ship (from Star Trek IX "Insurrection" = Datas Ship) ...can't think of any more right now...

[@Sgt_Glory]

Norway class was so under used, but one of my faves. I really like the Steamrunner too, supposedly the replacement for the Miranda.

[@alanbarker0901]

Can't believe the Excelsior class doesn't get a mention!

[@moustrout1299]

"arizona"

[@killz0ne215]

Ohhhh hell nahhh...... You didn't just forget about arguably the coolest ship in series. The USS Prometheus!! While not as large as others it was (at the time of Voyager) the fastest ship in the fleet. It's probably one of the sexiest looking ships produced as well.

[@thomasleemullins4372]

Both really cool and really nerdy. I like it.

[@claudeblue2281]

the NX class, NX1-enterprise my favorite

[@hwgusn]

"The original Enterprise"... [shows NCC-1701] It's ok, it's a Star Wars channel.

[@Valrokius]

well, that statement is correct.

[@hwgusn]

Jacob Thompson except for XCV-330 and NX-01, sure.

[@Valrokius]

@@hwgusn only when it comes to in universe chronology.

[@thebighurt2495]

@@hwgusn Isn't the XCV-330 Beta canon?

[@MrPhinn1]

At 4:34. I was aboard the Harmony of the Seas. Sukka was huge! I could only imagine the size in perspective of the Enterprise E.

[@megatroniker]

"These going to eleven" XD

[@nadohawk]

Nebula, Nova, Excellsior, Miranda, Prometheus....where are those?

[@Intolerance404]

Enterprise J too? It was massive.

[@trublgrl]

The "goofy looking" nature of the first enterprise is one of the things I like about it. There's zero factoring in of terrestrial flight design. It is a SPACE ship, it doesn't need to be aerodynamic in any way, it's never going to be in an atmosphere. That's where science fiction uses science to challenge our expectations.

[@0079Matthew]

You forgot the Enterprise J: Enterprise-J briefly seen in the episode "Azati Prime". It's described as being "almost 2 miles" in length

[@cainsolo1]

Uhmm, if a starship is 2 miles long, doesn't that make it a space station? What practical use is a 2 mile long ship?? Voth city ships notwithstanding.

[@curseofgladstone4981]

@@cainsolo1 Funny you say that. It's purpose was to essentially be a mobile space station used for extremely long distance voyages. I believe its size had several other advantages like housing a super weapon which if we consider star trek online Canon was used to destroy the sphere builders... Spheres. In one shot. Probobly a handful of other advantages too

[@cainsolo1]

@@curseofgladstone4981 you've given me an idea. I write star trek fan fiction. Written BY a fan FOR fans. The notion of SUPERSHIPS belongs to star wars not star trek. Star Trek had enough problems powering a 40 meter long ship. How the hell do you power a 4000 meter long behemoth? My stories will basically have a size limit on alien starships.

[@admiralsquatbar127]

Nobody wants to see that horrific thing again.

[@kiwivanman9035]

I built a star trek themed camping van, I love it. great vid mate. William

[@aaronlewicki8000]

All this good info, and then you fail to properly pronounce “wessel” at the end. Disappointing!

[@Crundibbler]

Voyagers top speed is not Warp 9.975, that is its maximum sustained cruising velocity

[@JesusAlphaAndOmega]

Crundibbler correct

[@davepastern]

@Crundibbler no, that was it's top speed. it's cruise speed (sustainable) was something like warp 9.7...

[@Data-sk9ev]

Awesome video. One tiny ting you forgot. The Prometheus and nebula classes. They both have a large presence in Star Trek (especially the Nebula class)

[@megafajnygosc]

Star trek 4 ever

[@obi-wankenobi8406]

SquareShox well I then I will see you in hell!

[@megafajnygosc]

You are not much for my photon torpedoes, gentlemens !!

[@a.morphous66]

Um, guys, I hate to say this, but... I like both. But I like SW more.

[@jaxmoreno9282]

Star Trek is superior in every aspect. Star Trek > Star Wars Star Trek FTW

[@user2C47]

the death star or any other vessel in Star Wars could be destroyed by a few transphasic torpedoes.

[@QuincyPoaches]

well duhh. Of course we want non-federation ships covered. Klingon BOP, for example. Borg Cube, etc. #dumbquestion.

[@a3justice637]

The D'deridex, the Negh'Var, etc.

[@BleakVision]

Yeah Bird of prey sizes could fill a whole video, they are all over the place.

[@ESP1138]

4:01 298 meters long. WRONG! The classic Enterprise was 289 meters long.

[@4seeableTV]

Stupid nerd. You act like he thing was REAL. It was a number scribbled into a screenplay. That's it.

[@charlieford3285]

What about the NX - 01 ENTERPRISE

[@miguelardin3295]

Yes you have forgotten the very first one !!!!!

[@stevenweaver3386]

Enterprise NX-01 Length 225m (738ft) Width 131.5m (431ft) Height 34m (111.5ft) 7 decks

[@joeadm3771]

its been a long road

[@johnwolf2349]

Technically it existed before the Federation, so not a Fed ship ;)

[@greebo7857]

@@joeadm3771 That was a TERRIBLE song.

[@kaylamarie8309]

I love both universes, Star Wars and Star Trek. You should definitely make a video of the Vengeance vs. an Imperial Star Destroyer!

[@lucideandre]

You did leave out the Enterprise NX-01

[@Judicial78]

It's small, like 200 meters.

[@thebighurt2495]

AH, but it's not a FEDERATION vessel, which is the focus of the video.

[@spudzillah_6175]

Enterprise J also first

[@omegaroguelp]

Spudzillah _ lol

[@brokenursa9986]

There wasn't much info given on J. We hardly know what it looks like in its entirety, with only an isometric view to go by.

[@redshirt0479]

Well Drexler did release detail drawings and behind the scenes information on the Universe class Enterprise J. And yes, that is the name he used for the Enterprise J's class.

[@MedionSinger]

No. We know full well what the Universe Class Enterprise-J looks like now as there is an ongoing magazine collection complete with models of all the ships. The USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J was issue 89 so we at least now know fully what the ship looks like.

[@denniselliott27]

The Enterprise J is an available ship in STO. I know, I play it regularly. It's kind of ugly, tbh. The saucer is wider than it is long, basically shaped like Voyager's saucer, only rotated 90 degrees.

[@jamiermathlin]

three times the speed of warp 8 (1024x Speed of light) is warp 9.91 (3072x Speed of Light), Warp 9.975 is 6395x Speed of light which is approximately 6 times faster than warp 8. according to the Michael Okuda scale. warp 9.9999 is 199,516x the speed of light, which is 195 times warp 8, and so on. warp 10 is infinite velocity.

[@musicalhistory4392]

He was referring to the old scale when the Enterprise (when temporarily upgraded by aliens), could go up to the speed of Warp 11.

[@data129]

@@musicalhistory4392 But I thought at warp 10 you are occupying all points. So there couldn't be a warp 11?

[@musicalhistory4392]

David Gorden TOS(and TAS, Enterprise) used the simple 1 interval in 10 times faster like the Richter scale does for power in Earthquakes. At some between then and TNG (possibly the invention of the Transwarp drive), it was changed to 10 in Transwarp Velocity, AKA everywhere at once, which meant they were using faster intervals as well.

[@Lensman864]

Errrr ... "pitch angle"?!Technobabble?It's the pitch angle of the ship!!! What next? Something mysterious called 'temperature'? Not very impressive presentation.

[@Janoha17]

Because we have no real world comparison for interstellar travel and space combat, we use tactics and terminology from seafaring and air travel. (In Deep Space Nine, most ships bank like fighters in atmosphere) In reality, the closest analogue to space combat would be submarine warfare.

[@kev3d]

Pitch Angle relative to what?

[@brianthorn2270]

The stardrive section was re-docking to the saucer section after having separated earlier in the episode.

[@thevoyager7207]

you missed the USS ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-J

[@PureSquall]

Yep, would like to know a lot more about the J, she seems like a behemoth.

[@Trunker21]

I like both franchises honestly. I liked this one (I’ve not seen a video of yours that I really disliked I admit) but it adds a little more variety. Plus it hits on one of my other absolute favorite franchises

[@happybunny1986]

nx enterprise, the best one!

[@wybacz]

Waiter, Second part please.

[@williamabbott9413]

HAHA THE OLYMPIC CLASS. I love this video. Thanks for keeping Both Fan groups satisfied.

[@ScientistCat]

"NO STAR TREK YOU TRAITOR! I ONLY WANT STAR WARS CONTENT!" Then don't click on one of the rare videos whose title spells Star Trek in the most painfully blatantly clear manner. The channel name is Generation Tech, not Generation Popular Meme And Merchandise Bait Franchise. For the record, I don't particularly hate or love SW, but the behavior of the fandom has been cancerous and self-entitled for quite a while.

[@YonderYoshi]

Agreed. I was never a fan of Star Wars as it never was never interested me. I just saw it as another "Micheal Bay space battle hybrid". I never hated SW, I was just never interested and still not interested, especially since (as you said) the fans are acting. Can't people be neutral?

[@justafellowviewerhere.p6026]

ScientistCat this is why we can't have nice things

[@lawrencedoliveiro9104]

1:34 But could it do the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs?

[@dragonfly492]

A parsec is distance in space "NOT TIME". A fuck-up by Star Wars writer's.

[@PreciselyTuned]

@@dragonfly492 It's a joke now just leave it

[@TndX]

@@PreciselyTuned So "joke" that they go and do a movie about it. Anyways, we all know that Lucas is perfect, and he didn't make a blunder, no, it was on purpose... he is so grear, i tell you.

[@jamesobrian1643]

The "Solo" movie covers that . Nice tie-in with the rest of the stories :)

[@Ertwin123]

@@dragonfly492 It was actually Han talking out of his ass to dupe a bunch of rubes. You can even see Obi Wan roll his eyes at the boast. Even the novelization made that clear. Star Wars nerds just took it literally, and the rest is history.

[@NEMISES1701]

More science in one sentence on trek and more real science than all star wars combined.

[@Bruce-vq7ni]

This guy really needs to get out more.

[@conza1989]

So a lot of rudimentary mathematics and casual Star Trek bashing, nice...

[@pepperVenge]

The idea of bringing kids on a starship is so that the crew isn't separated from their families for too long. The deeper you go exploring into space, the longer you'll be away from home. Its inevitable that families will one day go along with the crew.