The REAL SIZE of STAR TREK SHIPS Pt 2 Non-Federation Vessels

[@colehansen9918]

I love how he is like startrek stole everything from starwars. when star trek is almost 11 years older.

[@ldgaming4213]

Ikr

[@abandonedaccount6701]

So true!

[@DogsRNice]

Congratulations you got the joke

[@nbee4981]

Well, not exactly. Most of the elements in question derive from STNG and later, which began in 1987, 4 years after the end of the trilogy... LOLZ. Not lending credence to the claim as though it were serious.

[@ognyanstrelkov3773]

TOS is, not Star Trek: Nemesis

[@benwillems8584]

Actually, he quoted Shakespeare in the original Klingon. Movie developers just had the universal translator on

[@honka586]

No, Shakespeare was actually a Klingon! lol FERSHIZZLE!

[@vxrdrummer]

I thought exactly the same as soon as he said it!!!

[@mintydog06]

Great video :) I love your descriptions. And that scene at 3:12, where Tomalok is so smug at catching the Enterprise, then gets compeltely out manoeuvred is one of the best scenes in Star trek.

[@fluphybunny930]

Romulan Warbird for me still the best visualised space ship on screen. Just looks so menacing.

[@Blynat]

Agreed. Even when the those Rouge Warbirds from that off-shoot of the Romulan Empire (Tal'shi'ar? Or something) go to attack the Founders home world in DS9 they send over 100 dominion ships to deal with like 5 Warbirds iirc. They didnt want to take any chances and they wanted to annihilate them with little losses so they sent a fucking massive fleet to deal with a small amount of Warbirds with a few Klingon ships backing them up. Warbirds are menacing.

[@chrisbingley]

I prefer the updated version from Nemesis that come to help the Enterprise. Probably one of the only enjoyable things about that movie. They've got the same aesthetic, but with a leaner more aggressive look.

[@RunnerX13]

Chris Bingley those were great successors, but still love the OGs too

[@3Rayfire]

What do you guys think about the original concept by Drexler? The wings were originally supposed to be vertical, making it look like a B or a figure 8 when viewed from the front.

[@michaellepore105]

Nope! That be the Vengeance!

[@wrongway1100]

"Picard does all the ramming around here" BOW CHICKA BOW WOW!

[@sigmacademy]

Of course, at one point he had the biggest ship ... ;)

[@kjodleken8810]

Picard is here to clean your pool and deliver some pizza

[@a.morphous66]

I think Kirk does a bit more of that.

[@quarterstogether2005]

In part 1, can you seriously imagine the Vengeance vs an Imperial Star Destroyer......what about a Sovereign class starship Vs a Prometheus class starship (Star Trek)

[@lordoffishtown4455]

Jean Luc Jeremy, brother of Ron.

[@lavaentity9621]

borg can’t land on a planet? CBS: Watch me.

[@dsgowo]

I wouldn't call that a landing. . .

[@Tommy-pv1vh]

@@dsgowo did anyone get stabed by a fork? No? Then it was a perfect landing

[@dsgowo]

@@Tommy-pv1vh I think the Romulan Zhat Vash lady got stabbed with one of her knives

[@nerdhobbies5865]

Lol it wasnt willingly

[@XentorAntarix]

You forgot the most powerfull ship in Star Trek Universe The Krenium Timeship.

[@aiosquadron]

Yep. They could Ctrl-Alt-Del everything.

[@GerardKean]

"picard does all the ramming around here" I thought that was riker

[@Rick_Cleland]

My life has been a complete and total misery ever since Bigfoot stole my precious girlfriend in the middle of the night.😒 He even took all her clothes and the T.V.

[@rickbuttman5669]

But you have to say that Trek is waaay more realistic than Star Wars

[@Benrob0329]

Star Trek: Fake Science Star Wars: Fake Fake-Science

[@sashingopaul3111]

They published technical manuals and those are cited as canon.

[@idkidk3378]

This is sci fi, you won’t expect it to be realistic

[@Gabriel26963]

@@Benrob0329 star wars its not about science at all... take out the ships and "tech" and you get a less porno GOT

[@Gabriel26963]

@@idkidk3378 science fiction... star wars is centered around fantasy, not the technical shit, star trek is mor centered to the tech and is about fiction, not fantasy, there is a difference, fiction and fantasy are not the same shit

[@mikes.4811]

".....operated by Green-Peace saving a couple of whales from poachers." LOL I found this...funny. ;)

[@3Rayfire]

Honestly that was brilliant.

[@I_am_Diogenes]

You say "The Gorn" , I say "Jar Jar Binks" yes we all have that embarrassing uncle .

[@quuaaarrrk8056]

and " The Gorn " was in the 1960s and Star Trek was a new Franchise, Jar Jar Binks was in 2000s while Star Wars already was hyped.

[@catjudo1]

Gorn = miniature Godzilla

[@ClaudeBulgarelli]

That's because Trek was story driven and StarWars effect driven. But I like them both.

[@nerdhobbies5865]

Im dead💀

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

The Gorn are fucking badasses.

[@MikeZ8709]

I just had the hardest laugh I've had in literally YEARS over the line at 2:08 "the interior of these ships was the usual Klingon sewer/prison chic". That description is valid for nearly every enemy ship in SciFi history.

[@NP-zt6hy]

Ignore the star wars dogmatists. Freedom of religion is encourged in the nerdverse.

[@Ryukuro]

Nicholas Pace you have great wisdom

[@zombielizard218]

Nicholas Pace Smells like Heresy. . .

[@AvroBellow]

@Zombie - I find your lack of faith most disturrrrbing.

[@CobraRedstone]

Fuck off

[@andyb1653]

NO Fuck ON!

[@purefoldnz3070]

The worst things in Star Trek are still better than Star Killer base lol

[@enorris768]

earl gαy since when is STO alpha canon?

[@caffeinedelusions]

STO isn't canon so much as it is 'canon consistent'. Essentially, it's one branch of Expanded Universe; a branch that conflicts with the Relaunch Novels. Granted, I like it better than the Nutrek movies, so I'd LIKE it to be Canon, and it's the branch of Expanded Universe that is interesting to me... but I'm reasonably certain that the studios that decide what is and is not canon wouldn't be able to agree on whether or not to include it.

[@caffeinedelusions]

I think, Earl, that as a fan of STO, I am quite sorrowful that it isn't the fans who decide what's canon in the franchise. That right falling to squabbling studio and television executives has been a major detriment to the franchise as a whole.

[@Po3oB]

Purefoldnz, how can you even think of comparing such a piece of shit as SW VII with such a jewel, as oll of Star Trek before Jar-Jar Abrams?

[@LeakyTrees]

@Shea Alice Ivy can starwars instantly teleport someone onto another planet from orbit?

[@catjudo1]

Honestly, I thought Riker did most of the ramming on the Enterprise. Rumor has it he rammed a couple of times while stationed on that Klingon ship. "One, or both?" Heh, proton torpedoes away...

[@jayhom5385]

Protein torpedoes.

[@carldeithorn3450]

Riker, might have the "right stuff", but I've heard, Data, is a "MACHINE"! 😂😂😂 🤖🔧👀 🍻✌

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

the scimitars super weapon is very different in the Death Star superlaser scimitar main weapon could just disintegrate every human on the face of the Earth and then you would have a valuable planet all the natural resources and infrastructure instead of blowing it up

[@Starjumper2821]

No, plants and valuable microbes would die of too. In the end you have a big rock that can be convinced to support life once more in a few years. The infrastructure would remain intact, but the sudden dissapearance of any life might lead some powerplants to blow or other damage to occur. Though I concur the Scimitar is very different to the deathstar.

[@BlackOmegaWorks]

Still better to have something minable instead of blowing the entire planet up like a barbarian. As a side note, Species 8472 blew up a planet with 9 small ships in less time than the slow hulking death star lol

[@PeterKnagge]

They also forgot that Star Trek is way older than Star Wars, and the "Doomsday Machine" from the STOS is arguably the inspiration for the Death Star in the first place. I hate this channel, why do a video on Star Trek ships if you're just going to take the piss? This guy is such a dick!

[@lovipoekimo176]

Actually it kills all BIOLOGICAL life, so plants and animals and microbes will also be killed.

[@cliffstamp5885]

Agreed. Smirking idiot with a non-existent knowledge of the history of sci-fi....I love both universes, but Star Trek didn't rip off the Death Star's main weapon.

[@christianperezlindo8628]

I always was a follower of star wars but also saw a few of Star Trek, love the design of several ships of the franchise. I don´t care if s.trek and wars fans fights all the time, i love both. Slowly i am watching more and more of Star Trek but still my favorite ship is the oldie Klingon Bird of Prey. Thank you for make this video, because i had no idea about the size of this ships!

[@wario666]

Star Trek: Science Fiction. Will probably happen. Star Wars: Science Fantasy. Nothing wrong with fantasy.

[@chrisowl6910]

star wars is more a fairy tale. nothing with science. dark knight. princesses to be rescued. poor peasentguy who is a prince...magic stuff. and so on

[@Holy_Wraith]

Believe it or not, engineers recently developed transparent aluminum so at least that's one thing from fantasy to reality.

[@maartenc6099]

Like all good fantasies, it started a long time ago in galaxy far far away.

[@DOHC2L]

@@Holy_Wraith That's the ticket Laddie!

[@DocWolph]

V'Ger. The Doomsday Machine. Dominion Dreadnaught. Dyson Sphere.

[@gregramoundos6784]

You're leaving out a lot of ships especially ones from the original series the original D7 click on cruiser the regional Romulan bird of prey and what about the enterprise original series

[@hyzenthlay7151]

Enterprise-J Son'a collector Xindi final weapon

[@DocWolph]

The D7 Klingon Battleship is barely any larger then K'tinga. Not a practically large ship. The TOS Romulan BoP is an utterly tiny ship, barely anymore massive the TOS Enterprise's own saucer section alone. Generation Tech is looking for the BIGGEST ships in TREK, not the smaller ships. But the Negh'Var, so far teh largest Klingon warship in Canon, should be on the list. But the way I made my first comment was to enthuse people to add to the list.

[@TalesOfWar]

Size is also a bit of a funny thing in Trek too. It's always been about high tech, compact size for the most part. Compared to other franchises the ships are tiny, but they could absolutely annihilate most other franchise ships too with ease. The Defiant could smash pretty much anything it went up against 1 on 1, even outnumbered. The Dreadnaught's of TOS were also not much bigger than a Connie, just with heavier armour and more weapons. Voyager was also kicking the shit out of Borg left and right and that ship was barely bigger than the Constitution class, a pretty tiny ship for the time period where things like the Galaxy and Nebula class were running around. Hell, even the ancient Excelsiors dwarf the Intrepid class and they were like 100 years old by the time Voyager was launched.

[@Son37Lumiere]

+TalesOfWar Voyager was largely helpless for much of the series except for two or three times they got special upgrades, they really only kicked Borg ass when alternate timeline Janeway gave them the means to make their shields and torpedoes 1000 times more powerful.

[@PaxTorumin]

The two superweapons are actually pretty different. The Death Star's superlaser blasts a planet into vapor via brute force or perhaps some kind of destructive reaction with the planet's mass. The Scimitar's thalaron weapon irradiates the surface of a planet, killing everything alive, but without knocking over a single brick... or 24th century equivalent. Of course if you really want to compare weapons of mass destruction, both of these examples are laughably immense indulgences of megalomania and opulence. A single torpedo loaded with the right mix of trilithium and other compounds can cause a star to collapse in a most peculiar manner, generating a powerful shockwave that can obliterate Earth sized planets in seconds. It also probably leaves the region dangerously radioactive for quite some time as well. I think even Emperor Palpatine would impressed by a such a weapon. Small enough to be hidden in a cargo container, but powerful enough to remove a point of light from the star charts.

[@GenerationTech]

+Pax Torumin yeah you're right, but they are both green. I'm a simple man....

[@Nowhereman10]

Actually, it's been pretty well established in the new canon, especially in Rebels and now Rogue One that the Death Stars use kyber crystals to do their work.

[@PaxTorumin]

I don't recall saying the Death Star _didn't_ use kyber crystals, so what's the significance?

[@lonnievang6081]

Pax Torumin don't forget the Doomsday machine in the original series

[@danyeo]

Big difference between Trek and Wars is, in Star Wars they have to fly unshield small attack ships into the Death Star, avoiding what seems like useless surface cannons that can't hit the side of a mountain, and Unshield Tie fighters piloted by semi competent clones. Trek......ahh screw it let's just beam a torpedo into their engineering section and sip our Earl Grey Tea while watching the fireworks. Our course Warf would rather have a Cellular Peptide cake with Mint frosting.

[@alexanderbirch7612]

Could you cover some Dominion, Cardassian and Breen ships?

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Yeah was going to say the same. They aren't really very big, but they would still be interesting to see. EDIT: Besides the dreadnought obviously.

[@lsamaknight]

Yeah. I mean if you're talking about counterparts to Federation vessels you really need to include the Cardassian Galor-class along with the Vor'cha and D'deridex classes

[@greenmachine949]

For the next one with the largest ships, how about: 1) the Voth city ship 2) the Xindi Aquatic ship 3) the Kazon predator ship 4) the Dominion Dreadnaught 5) the Regent Flagship (from the mirror universe) 6) the Doomsday Machine planet killer 7) and the First Federation's Fesarius.

[@corssecurity]

The doomsday machine was a prototype. The race that built it had made several ful size, but the Borg attacked before they could activate them. Btw they inhabited the computer core. Becoming the weapon. Parked on the outer rim of the galaxy. TNG novel Vengeance.

[@caffeinedelusions]

Slight detail error; Vor'cha class attack cruisers were developed using Federation aid. Check the Nacelles; those are of a distinctly Federation design. Most preceding Klingon ships (like the variations on the Bird of Prey) included winglike 'warp foils' instead of nacelles. It's far more likely that the Vor'cha was designed to counter Romulans, because by the time it entered development the Federation and Klingons had an established functional alliance. There's also a hard distinction between Star Wars hyperdrives and Star Trek Transwarp. Specifically, Hyperdrives are THEORETICALLY omnidirectional, but require the use of a navigation computer to travel on safe precharted hyperspace routes. Transwarp drives are an unstable propulsion technology UNLESS you have established a Transwarp Network of actual stabilized corridors through transwarp space. Essentially, Hyperspace you're launching yourself with a catapult, so you'd better HOPE the guy firing the thing did the proper calculations for you to land in the right place, and that there's not an inconvenient helicopter on route, while Transwarp you're taking the freeway (which someone hopefully actually BUILT before you got on the onramp, otherwise you're gonna drop right off the ramp).

[@thomaslord2819]

The best comparison ever made

[@LadyLiluna]

Well, I'm a bit late to the game, but Star Trek Voyager has some very impressive ships featured.The Voth City Ship, The Generation Ship and that hellishly dangerous Kremin Temoral Weapon Ship are the biggest I can think of at the top of my head in ST VOY.

[@novoeduardoac1248]

I would like you talk about Cardassian cruisers, Husnock warship, and the Dominion Battleship of the episode "the Valiant".

[@seanwebb605]

Finally. Someone on KZbin who can articulate their thoughts and produce a coherent video.

[@doch1228]

Question: Which is more deadly ? The Borg or the Replicators from Stargate SG1.

[@Son37Lumiere]

Neither, the Ori are the most deadly/powerful of pretty much any race in any of these sci fi universes, except for the Ancients and the god like beings like Q.

[@lilaclizard4504]

I agree with Son37, but back on Borg v Replicators, good question! I don't know in the fictional universes, but both are actually potential realities for earth's future & in that setting I say the Borg is MUCH more sinister. Replicators we'd spot & have the resourses to destroy fairly early on in their development (particularly with a virus or inbuilt killswitch when we designed them). Borg are more like that stargate species that give vaccinations to double life expectancy but also cause infertility - they assimilate us in innocent looking ways, with facebook & youtube & twitter, we choose to use constant apps, will choose to wear glasses with screens embedded & then choose an ocular implant & auto-status update/twitter comment from our thoughts instead of writing, add electronic braces to limbs & exoskeletons to increase strength, first in the military & then extending into workplaces then everyday life & so on. At what point do we say "we are Borg" & force assimilation on others? - bosses already view anyone without an online profile as suspicious in job interviews & reject them

[@RobertTapia]

Lilac Lizard resistance is futile

[@NathanChisholm041]

Replicators are a invasive tech so i think they would be more devastating! Even the asguards couldn't get rid off them.

[@90lancaster]

+2:06 For those of you wondering what the hell a Qang Class (Chancellor Class) Starship is - it's a variant of the Vor'Cha Class with some slight cosmetic changes to the spec and to the shape of the upper hull - and there is 12 of them named after historical Klingon Chancellors like the IKS Gorkon for example. - they are not a TV canon ship though but have been featured in several novels beginning with Star Trek : The Next Generation "Diplomatic Implausibility". The ship type if closely resembles (The Vor'Cha) is often seen on Ds9 and the odd episode of TNG and can be seen momentarily in this video too.

[@lee-johndonald1836]

obviously the biggest ship in star trek must be on next weeks list. V'ger. but we need more obvious sized things to compare them too please.

[@JamesShipman]

Lee-john Donald I think v'ger was 1 AU or there abouts.

[@Novusod]

The Dyson Sphere was bigger than V'ger.

[@lee-johndonald1836]

1 au?

[@DrewLSsix]

James Shipman. only if you count the energy field, thw ship its self was a couple kilometers long.

[@Templeboyviii]

i know right, vger is 80 to 100 km long, its so much bigger than the star destroyer from star wars 5 which was around 20 km

[@Kref3]

3:05 That moment, when you do not look at the screen and then suddenly you get pulled back because you hear the one and only G‘Kar, last member of the Kha‘Ri and Knight of the Round Table and you realize ‚Oh, yes, Commander Tomalak was quite cool, too.‘

[@David-vz3ez]

could you compare the size of Star Wars ans Star Trek ships?

[@nathanberrigan9839]

Until he does a video, here is a chart of most sci-fi ships: dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-Spaceships-398790051

[@a.morphous66]

As a comparison, the Galaxy-class is about 642 meters long. The Imperial-class Star Destroyer is 1.6 kilometers long. Just to give you an idea.

[@sashingopaul3111]

The question is: has Star Wars provided any dimensions of their ships.

[@richardmarqua5668]

As a 71 year old Treki,, a retired pilot and military Officer, I will give you an update on the Orville, a star ship featured on the Star Trek 2017 Comedy series which actually supports today's most advanced active service space craft. Other than a unique streamlined vessel I am sure has interstellar capability. Its power and military defense were nuclear and may still be. The tail of the Orville is split into three sections, the center circular section which is the anti gravity drive is flanked by two other sections which serve as mostly additional armament protecting the anti gravity drive. If you search the internet you will find the TR3b. The circle section at the base of the craft is the Mercury Plasma Gravitational Drive, like the Orville. The Tr3b is a Nuclear Driven copy of the Zeta War Craft anti-matter powered craft from the Zeta Reticuli System, 35 light years distant. (Today's Romulans which are 4 foot tall grays) This information must be 20 years old at least. I am sure by now we probably have anti-matter drive which makes us on par with other craft from other civilizations. We can take ET home. The ore needed for anti-matter comes from a non oxygenated, non solar originated satellite, Like the Moon. Which, as I understand, is being mined for this and other rare earths by another civilization which told us to stay away. . While Star Trek is a glimpse of a future that we will one day see, the new Trek comedy, which is a good action series, is closer to today. Space is the black water Navy. We sail it's seas.

[@olivera-s3926]

stop comparing trek to star wars lol its annoying

[@DenverStarkey]

agreed , every time he does it I want to punch him , not because i'm sided to either franchise .. but just cos he looks like an asshole when he does it with that smarmy smirk on his face , and because I like both franchises for what they do. also he is just trying fuel nerd arguments in the comments.

[@Kidozy]

@@DenverStarkey Star wars ships would lose a 1v1 with a star trek ship.

[@tameturner1516]

@@Kidozy 😂😂😂

[@starleighpersonal]

@@Kidozy please specify what ships cause I think the first enterprise will loose to the Death Star

[@Kidozy]

@@starleighpersonal i said ships, not space stations

[@Eurasian_Australian]

Thank you for posting this requested video, Ben! I was so stoked to see all the ships, including the D'deridex and Borg cube. Also I loved the Steve Irwin reference!

[@ONYXRADX]

Expect next episode Borg Pyramid and Borg Octahedron

[@YoungBuck7912]

@Earl Jedi AbuganNot dull, just efficient. They don't need it to look any certain way, they just need it to move from point A to point B carrying as many drones as possible.

[@cmdrtianyilin8107]

Borg queen ship is tetrahedron shaped.

[@thegreatcornholio80]

The Pyramid was on Stargate though.

[@BobJones-rs3wy]

Borg Tesseract. 4 dimensions of fun.

[@nerdhobbies5865]

Borg onky had the cubes, spheres, a probe that was a 3 dementional rectangle and the queens ship which was a diamond shape

[@darthmeow1370]

Has anyone ever noticed that Romulan ships tend to be "bigger than they actually are"? Look at the D'dederix for a prime example. The only truly solid piece is the front head/beak looking structure, and it is tall and relatively narrow and its length is but a fraction of the total vessel length. The majority of the remainder is those two large clamshell pieces that aren't very thick enclosing a hollow space large enough to hold the entirety of the Galaxy class Enterprise-D. Its mass is spread thin over a large space with a lot of empty volume --there's not nearly as much ship there as its raw measurements imply. If you were to take the same amount of mass and functional space and compact it into a design that isn't spread out, it might very well be smaller than the Galaxy class but it's poofed up to be much larger. Other designs like the Scimitar and Mo'Gai accomplish a similar "greater size for the same or less materials and usable space" effect by way of a relatively small core ship with huge wings attached that spread the ship's mass over a wide space. Again, if you compact that mass / usable space down to not be spread out the total size would be no more and in fact probably less than other ships of their class. One could argue it's that way because their ships are designed to be evocative of hunting birds, and that's how birds are structured, but I think there's another reason. Romulans, if you think about it, are projecting bigger than they are on almost every level and their ships are a reflection of that. They call themselves a Star Empire, but they're an offshoot of Vulcans and thus much younger than any other major race in the region outside of humanity. The Federation got to be the size and power it is by combining forces of several major races, with humanity only the glue holding the alliance together, the Romulans are much younger than most Federation members yet we are expected to believe they are a match for the multi-species Federation and ancient Klingon empire. We don't know how many ships they have, or how many worlds in their "Star Empire". We don't know the size of the territory they actually control. For all we know, the Romulan Neutral Zone may encompass an area they are spread thinly through at best with the majority of their forces concentrated on the border. Hollow and inflated, like their ships. But very intimidating! Their ships operate under cloak, we don't know how many there are only how many we see at any given time. They could well be shuffling the same ships around to appear in different places and make it seem like their fleet is larger than it is. When they show themselves, though, boy is it dramatic. They almost always outnumber the enemy when they reveal themselves, and those ships look HUGE and thus so very menacing. It's smoke and mirrors though, to at least some degree. Their ships are probably the most advanced in the region next to those of Starfleet, and are formidable yes but not so much as they appear. They rarely attack, even though they seem to have superior numbers and power, they instead warn, threaten, and intimidate. They only fight when they have to and run from confrontations that aren't heavily in their favor. This is in contrast to the Klingons, whose tech level is less advanced than their rivals but they truly do have big numbers and throw three times the number of ships their enemies do at any problem. They fight at the drop of a hat, and shrug off losses as no big deal. They can replace them. I don't think the Romulans can, and their size and numbers are exaggerated. By being mysterious, with a well-crafted intimidating image, they keep others from probing too deeply and finding out the truth about the real Romulan numbers and resources. That frightening image, plus a very pro-active covert action and intelligence game, keeps them at least seemingly competitive with rivals that both vastly outnumber, outman, and outpower them. It's fascinating.

[@denniselliott27]

Do the Voth Fortress ship.

[@GenerationTech]

it's coming!...

[@oddish2253]

i second that.

[@Nowhereman10]

Correction: It's a City Ship, not a Fortress Ship.

[@EpicNerd]

I checked in STO, it's about 500 kilometer long, which whould make it about 200 kilometers tall and 100-150 km wide.

[@EpicNerd]

saddly the pve mission where you attack it is removed. it it was my favorite so I remembered these specs.

[@GooberVapes]

idk if it was mentioned before but wasnt the borg seen in enterprise show?

[@KOZINSIDE]

and where are the Ferengi Vessels?

[@studinthemaking]

Do Romulans & Klingon still need to turn off there shields to use there cloak?

[@snonsig2688]

studinthemaking yup

[@andrewthorne3570]

"Of course the ship probably couldn't land on a planet surface" are you gonna tell the Borg what they can and can't do because I'm not?

[@GenerationTech]

+Andrew Thorne ha, they will adapt, resistance is futile!

[@ravenvince2]

Starfleet first introduced to the Borg in a 2 part TNG episode called Best of Both Worlds. The Borg is located in the Delta Quandrant to far for Star Fleet to reach. That's why Voyager ran in them a lot.

[@ravenvince2]

Starfleet Captain Oh yeah I forgot about that Episode.

[@seanallen4966]

Am I the only one who noticed that at 4:40 there was Ben from Parks and Rec.

[@jameslawhorn6096]

to the one who made the klingon bird of prey! dude this awsome for some reason I find myself always going back to watch the short video, don't know what i'm expecting find but I think the work you've done this clip is premo!

[@zardox78]

Of course, the Borg plan might've worked out a little better if they'd taken the obvious option of travelling into the past far, far away and THEN travelling to Earth. Maybe those smaller sphere's don't have the super-duper trans-warp drive for some reason, but they never tell us if that's an issue. It also might've been prudent to back a few hundred years earlier. Like before nukes and repeating firearms etc. But then we wouldn't have gotten the whole Federation history lesson.

[@joeridestrijcker445]

did the guy in the vid say that the sphere is 700m diameter.... and in the film you see the sphere launching/firing dozens of torpedoes/charges that seem to do little more than make drunk people trip or cyclists fall down; I'd think a ship that size from the 24th century and tech from hundreds or species at their disposal, would be able to shoot much more formidable weapons to destroy a small and defenseless camping site; heck, one 'old fashioned' nuke would have done the trick; or in extremis, transport a handful of drones to the surface... or even kamikaze-crash the sphere itself! just PIS here ;)

[@XentorAntarix]

Or simple send perhaps MORE THAN ONE CUBE. :-)

[@Nowhereman10]

You forget that the Borg's goal is assimilation. They only destroy those that try to resist assimilation too much.

[@joeridestrijcker445]

the others were just in the shop to have their transwarp coils rotated?

[@joeridestrijcker445]

that raises the question why they want Earth in the first place; they know about terran tech and terran people (the Hansens, Picard/Enterprise, other colonies) so they should have an idea about the tech level... in all of their encounters they must have realised that terran tech is relatively weak and they have nothing 'new' to be assimilated; so, going to Earth is a grudge match? If one cube can cruise all the way to sector 001, why bother going to the past and sabotage first contact? I loved the film but never understood why they tried that time travel; also... if the cube hadn't been destroyed at all, would they still have done the 'sphere to the past' thing, or just transported a few 1000 drones to the surface?

[@Emanon...]

Star trek is sci-fi. Star wars is epic fantasy in a space setting.

[@oddish2253]

Imagine if Worf managed to ram the Borg Cube and the starfeet officers under his command ended up is Stovakor xD.

[@sigmacademy]

Kahless would be turning in his grave... :P

[@lasamisalagne7377]

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[@VladislavGoranov]

The first encounter with the Borg is in the ENT era. When some of the drones are found and investigated. They regenerate and assimilate a cargo vessel. After that they are being pursuied by Archer with the NX-01.

[@paulwand5391]

Great clip and I am 68 years young!

[@fornamnefternamn3123]

Star Trek is better than star wars if you arent that average movie watcher who watches with your family. There is so much that you can explore and learn in depth.

Go back in time,then fly to Earth.Job done!

[@flidrl]

6:58 I was wondering where I've seen that face before. Hey there, Damien Darhk.

[@Verdigo76]

This guy looks like a romulan. Kinda like the guy in Picard.

[@emren2432]

Wait 0:51 what movie or series is that? Never seen this before...

[@MrWardonis]

do babylon 5 after startrek

[@lilaclizard4504]

also stargate and Battlestar Galactica (ok not many in the last one, but it would be interesting to see a comparison of all the different scifi shows, including ST & SW in one video. I'd love to see the pyramids next to the borg cubes)

[@THEARDUOUSMOTH]

@Generation Tech can you do a full video on the Enterprise J please, and the other Enterprises, like the Enterprise H and so on!!

[@Razorkeyboard]

How about the V'ger from Memory Alpha orthe Dyson Sphere from Relics?

[@Templeboyviii]

dysons sphere because that is 2 million km long, bigger than anything in star wars

[@headrockbeats]

"V'ger from Memory Alpha"? Are you sure you don't mean V'ger from Star Trek: The Motionless Picture?

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Oh dear god that movie... sooo slow. Though the 2nd was awesome so it evened out in that respect at least.

[@rich1051414]

A dyson sphere is not a ship. It cannot move, and is locked gravitationally with it's captured star.

[@Intrepid17011]

And the Dyson Sphere is not 2km long, its 150 000 000 km in Radius.

[@Draeandor]

The Delta Quadrant housed the largest of all Star Trek ships! For instance, the Voth City Ship and the Krenim Time Weapon Ship! Also, I think the Dominion Super Dreadnought would be worth a look... and maybe, just maybe the quasi canon Odyssee class Enterprise-F from the game Star Trek Online? Oh and the one thing that is as big as an entire star system of course! V'Ger from the first Star Trek Movie! I hope one of those makes it into your next video! :D Stay classy!!

[@Dragonsecho3]

Do the Fesarius from the Corbomite manouver

[@sammya6469]

Question who made the actual first encounter was it the USS Raven or The USS Enterprise when Q sent the Enterprise to sector J-25?

[@alexandersonmei]

Wheres Nero's ship?

[@XentorAntarix]

That wa snot Star Trek that was JJ Trak. Only a slight name copmbaility but that is all. Not more than the Mirroruniverse a worthless parallel Timeline.

[@Nowhereman10]

The Narada come from the Prime Timeline, specifically 2387.

[@sigmacademy]

Having the Mirrorverse would actually be a pretty decent TV series - showing how and where things went wrong and ended up the way we see in various ST episodes. Or at the very least, where things have been going since the established TV series. Most of the actors are still around?

[@EvilFookaire]

Regular Kira AND a darker Kira? Two Kira's. Also, Nana Visitor times two. Worthless timeline my ass. Oh, and goatee-Spock with an attitude. VICTORY!

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

But it was JJs prime timeline, so in short: Not the real timeline.

[@stevenfrasier5718]

William Shakespeare was a Klingon with plastic surgery undercover in Elizabethan times, but was "stuck" there. Yet he made the best of his stay. This is actually subtext to Canon. A Klingon said, "You should hear it in it's ORIGINAL Klingon" when referring to WS. I did not make this up.

[@tsmaathearchivist5997]

Bring out the Both City ship! thing is a monster. rivaling borg cubes!

[@tsmaathearchivist5997]

Voth* damn you autocorrect!

[@Ryukuro]

Zach Carpenter I like both better

[@EvilFookaire]

I hear Orion women go voth ways...

[@danarseti]

Heh, heh

[@KOZINSIDE]

and where are the vulcan, maqui, bajor, dominion vessels?

[@stargazeronesixseven]

STAR TREK is for those who like to follow certain Conformality , while STARWARS is for those who love to feel the Force of the Universe within themselves & helping the like minded to do so ... May the Good Force be with You & Prosper! 🖖♥️🌷🕯

[@cookiecookies2870]

What I think is so annoying is people think that Star Trek steals from Star Wars even though the original tv show came out 11 years before Star Wars

[@lildev8117]

no jem hadar fighter, how could you :(

[@jimbojackson2]

lil dev maybe next time.

[@lildev8117]

Hope so l, but it's only 90 metres long so probably won't be included

[@Nowhereman10]

The Jem'Hadar attack ship was bigger than that. It is only stated in the episode "The Ship" to be buried in 90 meters deep of rock. That would make the ship at least 100 meters long given how much was still exposed to view. Either way, he covered the 110 meter long Klingon Bird of Prey, so why not a 100 meter attack ship?

[@lildev8117]

Nowhereman10 I was referring to the next episode, when he said he would cover large ships

[@DeathIncarnateFromOuterSpace]

Is that Romulan at 3:10 the same actor who played G'Kar in Babylon 5?

[@utterdespair2136]

Yes, that was Andreas Katsulas, RIP.

[@witchofengineering]

Galactic Empire VS Federation!!!!!

[@Starjumper2821]

That fight could be so onesided lul. Depends on how Star Wars deflectors impact Trek transporters (just beam a bit of Anti-Matter?) and how Trek shields react to Star Wars "turbolasers" (the shields are capable of redirecting most electromagnetic waves with hardly any effort).

[@Lukos0036]

Coffee vs Tea!

[@NathansWargames]

Federation would win I doubt Q would let his toys to be played with. and theres nothing in the wars universe that could stop Q.

[@Moped-Andy]

Laser have no effect on star trek ships. One ship is enough for the complete empire.

[@Starjumper2821]

Yeah, but that is a frequent topic of discussion. Since the weapons fired don't actually act like lasers, many people think it's a translator error from a time long ago and they're actually firing plasma which DOES have an effect on Trek shields. Also the *radiation from a leaking reactor or a star has frequently provided problems for crews all around the galaxy. So it seems certain parts of the electromagnetic spectrum once again are not a trivial thing for Trek shields. Of course I doubt anything but the Deathstar can put out a meaningful radiation compared to a star, but still.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Love your commentary, not just informative, but highly entertaining !

[@qifuhyue3568]

Can you do part 3 about the Star Trek rebooted

[@EpicNerd]

that is not cannon

[@edchambers8383]

Epic Nerd What's not cannon?

[@NashmanNash]

The JJVerse Star Trek

[@edchambers8383]

J.J verse is cannon

[@a.morphous66]

It is part of a different timeline. Not necessarily canon, but still there nonetheless.

[@Bounty_Hunter84]

Apprecciate the fact your a Star Wars fan giving time to Star Trek i love both.

[@nategg481]

1:16 one of the funniest things I've seen on KZbin

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Nathan Gilmour-Gunn just about!

[@defel1]

Star Trek, Star Wars, I love 'em both. Thanks for the video.

[@thinthest6832]

it's more like the star wars is a copy of star trek

[@thefreedomguyuk]

BlerStar95 No, SW is indeed a severe case of plagiarism, but of Valerian!

[@cyberfennek]

No Star wars is just a family Drama that span over 6 movies then turned to shit !

[@antonmortolovan4891]

What about the Romulan Bird of prey and the Klingon D-7, and D-9 Battle cruisers?

[@Scitch87]

Those videos would be really great if not for this horrible, horrible jokes in them.....

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Scitch87 The puns are actually very funny. "Decomissioned ships manned by terrorists", priceless!

[@JohnBasedowYoda]

Scitch87 I agree

[@michaeldiekmann6494]

Are you a Muslim?

[@CanuckGod]

To be honest, that was the best part of the video ;D

[@brandonn6099]

>borg >massive civilization >can traverse the galaxy in days >probably millions of ships >sends one ship to fight humanity and they resort to time travel to do it Honestly, it's like the Borg feel like they have to defeat us with only one ship at a time.

[@rowanthomas3354]

Can everyone stop getting their panties in a twist a realise that both have their merits and failures

[@That80sGuy1972]

Since the destruction of Romulus and now half of Romulan interests are Federation friendly, I believe Romulan ale is no longer contraband except for Star Fleet military personnel. If I am wrong, please correct me.

[@rickjones871]

Dude. I know you don't like Star Trek. But this is supposed to be an informative and interesting video. You can leave your little pokes and opinions to yourself.

[@microphonixvirtualstudio1634]

Thank you for giving the feet for us who can not relate to meters. By the way there are three meters in a yard, do you know what they are?

[@bobbert1997]

Dad?

[@Datch99]

Im NOT your Father!!

[@rcheek207]

Darth Vader wow

[@AndreasA.S.]

the results are in, and YOU ARE THE FATHER!

[@frankfuller975]

The thing about the Bird of Prey from Star Trek VI was that the new cloak that could be fired from was an experimental model. That's why it was commanded by the General himself. Likely no one else in the Klingon military was authorized to fly it. Also, if you can pronounce D'deridex, you can prounce Kang, and just look at Way of the Warrior to hear how Negh'var is pronounced. ^_^ RIP Steve Irwin, he is and will be missed.

[@mysticranger6894]

The usage of 'terrorist' and then dubbing "Allahuakbar" creates a problematic psychological link.

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Otaku Sempai Where exactly is the problem ?

[@ussbased-a7074]

Otaku Sempai ok libtard

[@anthonylivesay9339]

"Bunch of Pussies." You cracked me up with that.

[@kevz2474]

That Allaha Ackbar was hilarious

[@JohnBasedowYoda]

Kevin No it wasn’t. Turned a pretty cool video in shite

[@badlandskid]

Shiite.

[@tozmom615]

Was too realistic. As a European I broke out in a cold sweat and clutched my diversity beads. I’ve been culturally enriched enough recently.

[@badlandskid]

Tozmo M now that is funny.

[@hunglikeahorse120]

Paused at 4:05 to type this. To me, the JJ reboot is kind of like the prequels for Star Wars. Ill let you do what you will with that.

[@TyberiusDe]

Correction, Borg Transwarp Drives are not hyper drives. They are "super warp drives" that allow a ship to pass warp 10 without it's negative effects.

[@lennox_nzl4607]

0:18 I’m not a star treck fan so when this happens I was like wtf?

[@johnnyb.5281]

Quick question, when did the Borg Cube become a Starship?

[@krisguntner4805]

When less then 30 star trek ships can destroy 1/3 of a planets surface in their first 5 second attack you know they'd own star wars ships in battle.

[@antonmortolovan4891]

What about the Klingon D7, D9, D11, and Romulan Bird of Prey??

[@PierreaSweedieCat]

Am I the only one whose favourite is a D7 Klingon Kirk Era Cruiser? Need info on that puppy.

[@Sammy-iw9en]

At 5:52 the Federation's first encounter with the Borg cube is in TNG episode "Q Who" in an uncharted part of the galaxy. Data said "The nearest starbase is over two years away at maximum warp". Unless the episode is wrong, and if I'm not wrong TNG is parallel to Star Trek Voyager, they are exploring different parts of space at the same time. Picard makes appearances with Catherine jane way, and o Brian makes appearances with both

[@AtomicSneeze1]

In that episode, the Borg cube was a scout ship in the neighboring Beta quadrant which is only a few years away at conventional warp speeds. Q just sent them to the nearest Borg ship. Voyager on the other hand was sent to the Delta quadrant which was 70 years away at conventional warp speeds and is the "Home" territory of the Borg. Picard and O'Brian only make an appearance during the pilot episode of Voyager while Voyager is visiting DS9 for a briefing on the Maquis.

[@AtomicSneeze1]

Forgot to mention that the episode that Q introduced the Enterprise to the Borg was just the first time a Federation ship met the Borg and escaped. So this is the first time the info got back to the Federation at large. However, seven of nine's (or Anika Hanson's) parents met the Borg long before. They were just assimilated so they couldn't tell anyone. Also Guinan's people had encountered the Borg back sometime between the 19th century and Kirk's time and many of her people came to live in the Federation so the info was there even if they didn't know it.

[@Sammy-iw9en]

@@AtomicSneeze1 thanks mark, I watched alot of tng, and star trek movies, and recently the original series, but I missed some dialogue and also never watched the rest of the star trek shows like Voyager or deep space nine, except bits and pieces. Now I will try to start watching watching the other shows. Thanks a bunch.

[@mwwhatever]

how many ships are larger than a borg cube? I mean there was the Saurian ship that beamed Voyager into it, but other than that?

[@ravoniesravenshir3926]

Soooo.... what is the difference between, Slipstream and Trans-warp?

[@aeonjoey3d]

loving that you are a fan of both franchises and gleefully hovering over this imaginary line between pissing off fans of either, cum ba ya! love trek and wars, love your channel!, subscribed!

[@gordonhotchkiss5753]

Actually the first human contact with the borg was in 2063. Lily Sloane was from that time period in "Star Trek First Contact". She encountered the Borg whilst on the enterprise.

[@eyeofbast]

The Borg Sphere was an attempted assimilation by the Nexus Queen from Unimatrix 01 (Krige's character) of a temporal ship used by the Sphere Builders featured in Enterprise. Story arc was expanded on in novels and video games. The connection was intended to be revealed in later seasons of Enterprise following the Romulan-Earth War planned for seasons 4,5 & 6.