Genesis 2: SLF, Mango vs Taj

Mango (P1) vs Taj (P4)
Genesis 2
Singles Losers Final
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[@billygowhoop]

"Unplug your controller!" "Hey but give it up for Taj though." I love how they have to do that after roasting Taj.

[@TheAlexC]

"We ain't gonna do my boy Taj like that, he's still in, he's still fighting." 5 seconds later "Not gonna lie Taj is looking free as fuck right now"

[@NotAManYouCanMend]

I mean taj was playing great that tournament

[@pozkodeth]

@@NotAManYouCanMend do you people ALWAYS have to start your sentences with "i mean"? can't you just type normally? what value do you think putting "i mean" added to your comment? let's compare the two: "I mean taj was playing great that tournament" vs "taj was playing great that tournament" which one makes you sound more like a snarky redditor?

[@Michael-hc2hp]

​@@pozkodeth I mean, nothing makes you sound more like a snarky redditor than getting so worked up about people starting a sentence with, "I mean." I mean, what's more pathetic than that? I mean, something that makes no difference to anyone else, yet you're so pissed about it. I mean, get better things to get worked up about

[@JealousBishop]

"Mango gave this nigga the corporation." Something about that line makes me giggle.

[@wolfmanjack8402]

JealousBishop made no sense but was hilarious

[@Jubbazar]

It means he gave him "the business" but in extreme fashion

[@RDowney3]

Corporation also has the Latin root for body. Mango bodied him.

[@Astrosimi]

Well, you just blew my goddamn mind.

[@mkwstar]

HMW is THE commentary god

[@jmcieslak0]

he was so obviously biased toward mango lol

[@tenza1988]

Jacques L you’re acting like him being 6’7 helped him be better at the game, dude got destroyed and felt humiliated so he rage quit the match. You sound like you don’t get out much tbh.

[@jacquesl9972]

@@tenza1988 He did get destroyed and humiliated, but no other player would've given up like that. If he forfeited it wasn't because the crowd or announcers made him. It's because he would've gotten 4 stocked again game 3.

[@sareaper69]

@@jacquesl9972 if you read into it. Taj beat Mang0's Falco 3-0 in the winners bracket. So Mango pulled out Fox and 2-0'd him in a set to three for good measure. Taj knew what was going on and wasn't about to be the butt of the crowd with his whole community watching. Forfeit, unplug your controller, dawg.

[@Michael-hc2hp]

@@sareaper69 Taj actually beat Mango's Falco 3-2 in Winners Semis. Then this set was supposed to be a best of 5 but Taj just knew he was gonna get bodied again so he just quit after game 2.

[@mach1alex19]

that funny screaming you hear in the middle of second match was me hahahaha

[@n4riko]

mach1alex19 holy shit

[@mrm64]

match1alex19 lmao you're a part of history, for sure, man! XD

[@cerebrialfreedom]

absolutely adorable and wholesome haha

[@SillySelah]

You have no idea how much me and my friends say "UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG, UNPLUG YA CONTROLLER!" thanks to this video. Thanks HMW.

[@bolshevikY2K]

3:40 the disrespect of the century

[@DPSalt64]

blame the guy who said "Hit him with the laser."

[@TingSing]

ChaosDT08 No one said that. It sounded like the announcer calling for mew2king.

[@DPSalt64]

Alex Botkin The laser part came after the announcer called m2k. You can hear someone saying laser

[@pipsounds]

+Hawkboy1080 the best part of that is the "ooh"

[@bolshevikY2K]

you're kidding, right?

[@IntroSpecktive]

4:31-6:31 true combo

[@JoeGess]

+IntroSpecktive Love that part when he hit that up smash ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@splatbot8091]

+IntroSpecktive ayy lamo

[@jonahdunstan6514]

unplug ya controller dawg forfeit my nigga

[@aaron373]

IntroSpecktive im late as shit but ayyee

[@DowntownWithBrown]

Jonah Dunstan HE FORFEITS! HE FORFEITS!

[@twomad]

HE FORFEITS

[@biscui1o]

twomad >comments after downloading the video for meme material

[@Peakyy1]

ayy twomad

[@n4riko]

lmaoo

[@flopolol]

twodad

[@limj2880]

hi twomad

[@starfox300]

at 3:38 you can hear someone say "Use the laser!" and Mango does it just to style on him

[@charlesdangelo7675]

People always say this but I think it's just a TO calling matches. He says something about Brawl finals between Mew2king and Ally right before that.

[@LeonisYT]

Charles D'Angelo If you listen slightly behind the TO in the audio, you can here someone in the background with a completely different tone of voice than the TO, saying "use the laser!" after someone say "you ain't even good!"

[@bluaurax]

Was fucking hilarious

[@MyTopo14]

FORFEITS MA NIGGA , HE FORFEITS!

[@KikonSketches]

MyTopo14 mango handed this nigga the corporation

[@DrAlphatier]

LOL @ "Taj is lookin' free as fuck, man."

[@Albomxnista]

ngl

[@lambmaster27]

Gave him the corporation.

[@jmentone]

I always shit my pants when he says that

[@kaldo_kaldo]

@@jmentone I hope you don't watch this video very often then

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

@@kaldo_kaldo he watches it every day. it's a good way to ensure he doesn't have to go at an inopportune time, like a business meeting or a date or such.

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

he gave that N word the corporation

[@ace8656]

i miss old melee commentary

[@YumiSax]

What name commentary? Im sorry not speak english...

[@squid-ink2628]

@@YumiSax HomeMadeWaffles is the name

[@DJSALTYNUTZ]

we used to be a country

[@SARCOM3R3]

SCAR is the best commentator. He is funny but doesn't disrespect the players like this video did

[@cartermilan]

@@SARCOM3R3 watch m2k vs mango at ROM 1 from the same year as this, scar was just as out of pocket

[@titostacos128]

3:41 - Mango pulls out his laser and slaps Taj in the face

[@catherinedurette645]

Ok. everyone sees the Lazer. but nobody saw that mango used the Firefox attack. HE LANDED FIREFOX!

[@euclidismybro1451]

nice meme

[@splatbot8091]

+Colby Durette Anyone can do that. I'm garbage and I land it all the time.

[@catherinedurette645]

BronzeCylinder In a pro game.

[@splatbot8091]

Colby Durette A friend of mine , Doctor X, mains fox. He plays it professionally. but using firefox offensively leaves you open to hard punishes against some characters. So he doesn't use it often. Look Him up sometime, He's pretty good.

[@fairtodair1990]

+BronzeCylinder I've never heard of Doctor x but taj knocked mango into losers that same tourney, so for mango to do something like that is a serious mindgame.

[@woodstock4089]

The babies who cry about how "toxic" the old melee community was must've missed 4:23 huge respect for the dude that said that

[@meltenvy]

+waifu-king pretty sure that was hmw

[@christiansells120]

Nah, it was petty

[@JohnBosson]

"give it up for taj, tho"

[@FirstNameLastName-zp1wq]

The old Melee community was pretty toxic, I'm glad it's no longer like that.

[@GaryOaksmash]

no it wasn't, don't confuse playful banter with toxic behavior

[@RandomOrdinary_Girl_6123]

"Mango gave this n**** the corporation" I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but that's funny as hell

[@GhostbusterPalu]

Instead of saying "he gave him the business" (win something over someone in style), he's giving him something a lot bigger. What's bigger than a business? A corporation!

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

@@GhostbusterPalu LOL you're the guy from the other video explaining the same thing!

[@wettuna1769]

i started checkin out competitive smash when ultimate came out, found last stock legends and this set. Hearing the crowd absolutely lose their shit over seein a fox move crazier than they ever seen and waffs classic commentary gave me huge chills i rewatched this set so many times. Been playing melee every day for 3 years now because of this

[@zachsteiner]

That’s so awesome. I feel you though, when I discovered this set it really influenced me too when I got into competitive smash.

[@elim9054]

Christ, when Mango shines Taj off the stage at 3:00. That entire, like, second and a half of movement was so smooth and doing a single input wrong could have left Mango helplessly falling to his death.

[@elim9054]

*attempts to shine. He missed the shine spike, but that was still insane.

[@Wakeee]

why did you point that out

[@elim9054]

Wake Because I wanted to lol

[@bigidiotdumbstupidguy9329]

I think it's all the little leadups. Like how M2K says "aiming behind" and "firing early" y'know? So starting at like 235 he starts with nair-shine/drill shine strings and the movement just throws Taj off to the point where he has to play so defensively that he's predictable. It's a great tactic. It's why Falco/Fox/Marth are the best characters in the game.

[@st4155]

To be fair he did miss like three wavedashes in there lol

[@queercandy1]

i come back and watch this video at least once a month. an absolute classic

[@asup759]

the dude doesn't actually say "use your laser" it's the brawl doubles bracket announcer saying "mew2king and ally vs gnes and ultimaterazer" holy fuck

[@xaviermcknight1510]

I love when the world throws out crazy moments like this

[@Viddaric]

Hands down the greatest disrespect in Smash history.

[@Plernatious]

+Viddaric mango's jab on hbox tho

[@keirontravis]

+Plernatious That one was disrespectful to everyone.

[@aaron5319]

What about UltimaScout getting kneed?

[@JosephStardust]

What about that time Ganondorf down-b'd Sheik when she couldn't recover?

[@marcusberryman9276]

+Joseph Stardust DISRESPECT EVERYBODY, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE NOW SEEN

[@Protnomc]

He said afterward on Smashboards that he considered it, but decided he wasn't going to take three games off of Mango with Mewtwo and didn't want to slow down Mango's play at all. In effect he sacrificed his last game in the hope of giving us all the most amazing Grand Finals we could have. Pretty cool! Though I'd liked to have seen it too. I really hope Taj enters singles at some big thing at least one more time. Couldn't believe the show he put on here.

[@benjaminmedranda331]

And this year taj is playing mewtwo at gensis 9, beautiful

[@jabr0nicus]

game 2 of this set is the Muhammad Ali vs Cleveland Williams of melee

[@highlyeducational4162]

^

[@Jackjack-kr1cz]

People forget how fucking fire Taj’s run was up to this point, it was actually out of nowhere how badly he was beaten here

[@inthexis2088]

3:40 *hurling noises*

[@lastofdafast]

And at the end "Give it up for Taj, though" - and people start clapping. Damn, I love the melee community.

[@sinic.]

Video starts at 4:32

[@geldjunge280]

UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG, UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER. FORFEIT MA NIGGA !

[@Elimbi1]

That was one hilarious commentator :D

[@dropthefreakinMOON]

anyone else watch this after watching mango vs. mew2king in losers finals at G4?

[@aguy3082]

Taj just beat Mang0 at Genesis 9 with Mewtwo. What a world we live in.

[@gnoogie]

uh it might be good to mention mango played doc lol. what a dishonest thing to leave out

[@aguy3082]

@@gnoogie cope and seethe, what's dishonest is pretending like that matters when doc is far better than Mewtwo. It's a lame thing to play a borderline viable character like doc or luigi and then john when you lose to a low-bottom tier as if all characters below Samus are in the same tier because your character "isn't viable."

[@gnoogie]

​@@aguy3082 No one ever johned lmao. Mango said he still tried his ass off with doc. He lost fair and square, but the fact you specified Taj playing mewtwo and left out Mango going doc is just intellectually dishonest as fuck. It's about you painting one player going his secondary vs another players main (mewtwo and marth are both tajs mains) as this unprecedented upset over mango as if he lost with one of his spacies. If you don't understand why this matters, that's fucking crazy homie. GTFO with your weird-ass tangent about tiers n shit.

[@mfdoom4358]

@@aguy3082 did you really just say cope and seethe lmaooo

[@aguy3082]

@@mfdoom4358 cringe

[@Lovage805]

I'll tell you one thing about watching these matches live, all the fox mains in the building were wet as fuck

[@ToshiRolls]

After Zain/Mang0 you had to come back here

[@Michael-hc2hp]

Yeah, looks like Mango's always been able to switch to Fox against Marth's and wreck them. The funny thing is that in Zain's video "Expert Breaks Down Famous Moments in Smash Bros. History" he says that Taj would've beaten Mango's Fox if he used stuff that Zain uses now. And then Zain gets beaten twice on FD and double eliminated by that same Fox just 10 years later

[@adriannngp2012]

Revenge is sweet

[@MeesterTweester]

Taj gets his revenge at Genesis 9

[@Orion-ve7kk]

I’m not gonna lie, for 2011 the level of play was already extremely advanced. Taj was literally reacting to fox side b with forward smash and mango was doing some crazy shit even for todays standards. This set continues to age incredibly

[@sareaper69]

Watching this set after watching Winners semis is insane. People had never seen this level before.

[@XLNC_YL]

What is "The Corporation"?

[@andrew9133]

Anthony B It's a play on "he gave him the business." Corporation > business

[@blandeanders7433]

Mah dick

[@NIDAK52]

TTN

[@Hulka10]

classic set. one of my all time favorites

[@xD1x]

[@DannyMeasho999]

Screw you d1

[@NoScrub]

All those M2KNairs.

[@cartercartercartercar]

lol what’s up everyone

[@HKip]

Hey

[@NDNxXG6Xx]

So today I played against taj I wanted to see what happens when I go orange fox w/ NEO! tag annnndd.... Got bodied I felt that he hated me very much lmao

[@corazonvibrante]

Taj Mewtwo?

[@pIayingwithmahwii]

LOOOL that is so funny.

[@NARKBALL]

Greatest fucking Lazer of all time. I could watch that clip over and over and over again and laugh my ass off

[@TheOnlyPersona]

That double shine to end the first match was amazing. Can you imagine how fast you have to move your hands to get that within the frames?

[@brownzangief]

Bro I hope you still follow melee because the wild shit you'll see today will give you second hand arthritis

[@TheOnlyPersona]

@@brownzangief a decade later and the gameplay is beyond anything we imagined back then 😭😂

[@ruka_7735]

@@TheOnlyPersona You're already here 10 years after OMG !

[@HKip]

​@@TheOnlyPersonaprops to you for not dying or losing your account

[@TheOnlyPersona]

@@HKip we still alive!

[@catandfishfc]

Taj finally got his revenge vs Doc Lee

[@DaN45623]

im gay

[@mrt8bit692]

Crazy to think that 11 years later Taj would beat him with what was once said the worst character

[@peashooter6628]

It was Doc vs mewtwo btw lol

[@mrt8bit692]

@@peashooter6628 Still though I mean mango was trying his hardest, also if you’ve seen any stream in the past 3 months that’s like all he plays

[@EM7575]

​@@mrt8bit692 I swear he said he was sandbagging at G9 tho. Might be johns after the fact idk

[@mrt8bit692]

@@EM7575 idk with mango you never really know, then again he did look pretty focused during the set

[@disgustingratsewer]

he plays marth so it dosent matter 💀

[@grasshopperrin133]

"I think we're all a little hard right now" ~ Mango

[@nsiderultimaseth]

HMW: "We ain't gonna do my boy Taj like that." Mango: *Does his boy Taj like that.*

[@lavezzi7197]

taj just beat mango at genesis 9, coming full circle.

[@xael-the-artist7708]

UNPLUG THE CONTROLLER DAWG

[@lavezzi7197]

@@xael-the-artist7708 taj is playing f*cking amazing, I really don't see mango beating him.

[@blayne7109]

I know somebody else already said it but I'm gonna do it anyway. Taj giving this nigga the corporation.

[@Seank7]

2:59 look at that fucking movement

[@fronkmanthey2399]

Taj the goat

[@sareaper69]

Literally iconic

[@free_playstation_2]

3:11 even the lead up to the clip is funny as hell lmao

[@HKip]

SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG

[@FrekyD]

3:40 get fucking styled on, lmao.

[@aaronb5065]

Mang0 hears the hoes callin his name, proceeds to unleash possibly the greatest set of all time.

[@xxEpiczGamingxx]

I love this video. The commentary and gameplay is perfect

[@17ness1]

"Well ain't gon do mah boy taj like that. He's still in. He's still fighting." Riiiiiight...

[@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion]

This is peak melee commentary. I wish there is two different entities that picked up the smash community, one for "professional" commentary and the other for raw uncensored commentary.

[@grasstypegabe3]

so crazy to hear these exact same screams at royal flush over 5 years later

[@idonnow2]

Man that crowd must have demoralized the shit out of Taj

[@smokemidnotmeth]

idonnow2 I know it's late but go to 4:24

[@infiniteV115]

@pesticide7 That's not what he said, he was calling out Brawl matches. He said "Mew2King and Ally, Gnes and Ultimaterazer"

[@adaml.2384]

AIGHT WE GOT MANGEEZY!

[@AAABattery24]

...ouch. So are these supposed to be best of fives? Because there were only two games and... wow, I feel kind of bad for Taj now. To think Mango showed him up because someone in the crowd said using the laser on that Marth.

[@Soundwves]

It was a best of 3(?).

[@KashiwaDaisuke]

ChilledQuartet It was a best of 5, Taj forfeited the last game

[@LunarySSF2]

KashiwaDaisuke Poor Taj.

[@linkkicksu]

That laser was just fucking beautiful. I miss watching old school Mango

[@lvkoolbeans]

the phrase "get your lunch money taken" was made for this

[@alexcreilson]

3:40 so disrespectful, i nearly peed. >that laugh in the background "AHHHAHHH HEHAHHEHAHHHHHHHH"

[@dsx9069]

Remember that video with SS and Taj...this is the Fox version of that video.

[@darksinji]

This is what happens when fox is on point.

[@OmegaRedEX]

That commentator was talking mad shit at the end... lol

[@Kukzzzz]

Am I the only one watching this like every second day since it's been uploaded?

[@user-hd4pj8yf9s]

this is one of the greatest moments of all time. The matrix is real

[@somedudethatdoesthings8057]

I never knew what "the corporation" was for years... Until I realised that's because he got "4 stocked."

[@darkkevindu6982]

3:40 best part

[@Swarm561]

"Unplug the controller dawg!"

[@gonfreak4951]

I knew it was over when Taj started trying to use counter

[@SchlimmShadySmash]

almost looks like Taj is supporting mango by letting himself get owned... to maybe intimidate Armada? I dunno

[@mexismug]

I want a crowd mic (or commentators in the crowd) for genesis 3.

[@Auddy07]

@ 1:00 HMW says something like "Barakbah!" in reference to Prog/D1. Does anyone know where the clip of Prog/D1 saying that is? I remembering them saying it after some crazy set a long time ago.

[@TheFoxmccloud12]

Refering to pressure, d1 says it all the time

[@rcdotjpeg]

He's saying "the pressure" but like "da presshah"

[@hughneutron5801]

1:46 Mang0 learned that double shine from Zuppy

[@abrown903]

2:18 "OH, shit!" -2 white guys

[@TishGames]

honestly mango played good but taj played REALLY badly

[@YUSoEpic]

***** Taj beat mango in winners tho XD

[@BrickNGames]

***** did he?

[@chis5050]

***** Beat winners mango. There's a difference

[@BrickNGames]

***** Mango lost to Hbox in losers at EVO lool

[@chis5050]

***** no shit?

[@ltdzinger]

I hate Fox but this is swag as hell.

[@LukeMM95]

+ltdzinger How can you hate Fox after watching this? This is the match that made me start playing Fox.

[@ltdzinger]

maybe because honestly imba characters are stupid?

[@LukeMM95]

ltdzinger imba?

[@ltdzinger]

imbalanced.

[@LukeMM95]

ltdzinger I honestly think Marth is more broken than Fox.

[@bdenhawk]

this might be the most amazing thing i have ever seen

[@MDBrookman]

"Mango gave this nigga the CORPORATION." Why is this comment not quoted and liked into oblivion??

[@nonduality1]

1:47 when he shine>wd>strong nair>double shine was the initial shine a bait for taj to go for a grab and mango knew taj would grab and he knew the strong nair would connect so he went for a double shine?

[@Tugnus]

@knihThink He even said at the tourney that if he had somehow won he would have let Mango go to GF because it would be a better set.

[@NaotaTakkun]

taj wasn't given the business, he was given the entire corporation.

[@17ness1]

3:17 is that Ken?

[@17ness1]

nvm. Probably Phil

[@scotchedtape]

idk you can hear phil come in before the "unplug ya controller" bit, his voice is higher than whoever that was

[@17ness1]

+Ratchet and Dank Yeah. That's what I was thinking.

[@sammyedw4978]

+17ness1 i think it may be lovage?

[@Azzucips]

Mango plays for the crowd man, too sick

[@MTKL17]

AND THIS... is when Mango isn't sandbaggin......

[@fistoz4671]

Sometimes when I get beaten, I think of that poor dude Taj during this set and I'm "oh well, could've been worse !" If I was one of his close friends, I'd message him this video every once in a while just for trolling :D

[@Frostbyte115]

I look back at this video and remember how people complained about the laser thing here but say nothing when he did it to an ice climber player not to long ago. They say nothing at that point.

[@abhisarma7249]

Greatest set of all time

[@Zinth]

@Gastogh My respect to Taj (especially as a friend of a friend), but Taj himself even acknowledges this.

[@sam-yau]

@NaotaTakkun You can, and you should when you can time it and pull it off. Timed grabs out of shield while being shield pressured is actually a pretty recent metagame that used to be frowned upon back in the day. Always gotta be careful of good spacing though, those are tricky.

[@takeover1806]

Mango is psychotic in this game.

[@yungleen1841]

this video is pure energy

[@zemc77]

It gets so hype after 4:31!