Mango (P1) vs Taj (P4) Genesis 2 Singles Losers Final My videos: ajpanton.se/ssbm/
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@billygowhoop6 жыл бұрын
"Unplug your controller!" "Hey but give it up for Taj though." I love how they have to do that after roasting Taj.
@TheAlexC2 жыл бұрын
"We ain't gonna do my boy Taj like that, he's still in, he's still fighting." 5 seconds later "Not gonna lie Taj is looking free as fuck right now"
@NotAManYouCanMend2 жыл бұрын
I mean taj was playing great that tournament
@pozkodethАй бұрын
@@NotAManYouCanMend do you people ALWAYS have to start your sentences with "i mean"? can't you just type normally? what value do you think putting "i mean" added to your comment? let's compare the two: "I mean taj was playing great that tournament" vs "taj was playing great that tournament" which one makes you sound more like a snarky redditor?
@Michael-hc2hp27 күн бұрын
@@pozkodeth I mean, nothing makes you sound more like a snarky redditor than getting so worked up about people starting a sentence with, "I mean." I mean, what's more pathetic than that? I mean, something that makes no difference to anyone else, yet you're so pissed about it. I mean, get better things to get worked up about
@JealousBishop8 жыл бұрын
"Mango gave this nigga the corporation." Something about that line makes me giggle.
@wolfmanjack84027 жыл бұрын
JealousBishop made no sense but was hilarious
@Jubbazar7 жыл бұрын
It means he gave him "the business" but in extreme fashion
@RDowney37 жыл бұрын
Corporation also has the Latin root for body. Mango bodied him.
@Astrosimi6 жыл бұрын
Well, you just blew my goddamn mind.
@mkwstar8 жыл бұрын
HMW is THE commentary god
@jmcieslak05 жыл бұрын
he was so obviously biased toward mango lol
@tenza19884 жыл бұрын
Jacques L you’re acting like him being 6’7 helped him be better at the game, dude got destroyed and felt humiliated so he rage quit the match. You sound like you don’t get out much tbh.
@jacquesl99724 жыл бұрын
@@tenza1988 He did get destroyed and humiliated, but no other player would've given up like that. If he forfeited it wasn't because the crowd or announcers made him. It's because he would've gotten 4 stocked again game 3.
@sareaper693 жыл бұрын
@@jacquesl9972 if you read into it. Taj beat Mang0's Falco 3-0 in the winners bracket. So Mango pulled out Fox and 2-0'd him in a set to three for good measure. Taj knew what was going on and wasn't about to be the butt of the crowd with his whole community watching. Forfeit, unplug your controller, dawg.
@Michael-hc2hp3 жыл бұрын
@@sareaper69 Taj actually beat Mango's Falco 3-2 in Winners Semis. Then this set was supposed to be a best of 5 but Taj just knew he was gonna get bodied again so he just quit after game 2.
@mach1alex1913 жыл бұрын
that funny screaming you hear in the middle of second match was me hahahaha
@n4riko4 жыл бұрын
mach1alex19 holy shit
@mrm644 жыл бұрын
match1alex19 lmao you're a part of history, for sure, man! XD
@cerebrialfreedom Жыл бұрын
absolutely adorable and wholesome haha
@SillySelah9 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much me and my friends say "UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG, UNPLUG YA CONTROLLER!" thanks to this video. Thanks HMW.
@bolshevikY2K9 жыл бұрын
3:40 the disrespect of the century
@DPSalt649 жыл бұрын
blame the guy who said "Hit him with the laser."
@TingSing9 жыл бұрын
ChaosDT08 No one said that. It sounded like the announcer calling for mew2king.
@DPSalt649 жыл бұрын
Alex Botkin The laser part came after the announcer called m2k. You can hear someone saying laser
@pipsounds8 жыл бұрын
+Hawkboy1080 the best part of that is the "ooh"
@bolshevikY2K8 жыл бұрын
you're kidding, right?
@IntroSpecktive8 жыл бұрын
4:31-6:31 true combo
@JoeGess8 жыл бұрын
+IntroSpecktive Love that part when he hit that up smash ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@splatbot80918 жыл бұрын
+IntroSpecktive ayy lamo
@jonahdunstan65148 жыл бұрын
unplug ya controller dawg forfeit my nigga
@aaron3737 жыл бұрын
IntroSpecktive im late as shit but ayyee
@DowntownWithBrown7 жыл бұрын
Jonah Dunstan HE FORFEITS! HE FORFEITS!
@twomad8 жыл бұрын
HE FORFEITS
@biscui1o6 жыл бұрын
twomad >comments after downloading the video for meme material
@Peakyy14 жыл бұрын
ayy twomad
@n4riko3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo
@flopolol3 жыл бұрын
twodad
@limj28803 жыл бұрын
hi twomad
@starfox30010 жыл бұрын
at 3:38 you can hear someone say "Use the laser!" and Mango does it just to style on him
@charlesdangelo76759 жыл бұрын
People always say this but I think it's just a TO calling matches. He says something about Brawl finals between Mew2king and Ally right before that.
@LeonisYT9 жыл бұрын
Charles D'Angelo If you listen slightly behind the TO in the audio, you can here someone in the background with a completely different tone of voice than the TO, saying "use the laser!" after someone say "you ain't even good!"
@bluaurax2 ай бұрын
Was fucking hilarious
@MyTopo149 жыл бұрын
FORFEITS MA NIGGA , HE FORFEITS!
@KikonSketches7 жыл бұрын
MyTopo14 mango handed this nigga the corporation
@DrAlphatier10 жыл бұрын
LOL @ "Taj is lookin' free as fuck, man."
@Albomxnista7 жыл бұрын
ngl
@lambmaster2710 жыл бұрын
Gave him the corporation.
@jmentone3 жыл бұрын
I always shit my pants when he says that
@kaldo_kaldo3 жыл бұрын
@@jmentone I hope you don't watch this video very often then
@pIayingwithmahwii2 жыл бұрын
@@kaldo_kaldo he watches it every day. it's a good way to ensure he doesn't have to go at an inopportune time, like a business meeting or a date or such.
@pIayingwithmahwii2 жыл бұрын
he gave that N word the corporation
@ace86568 жыл бұрын
i miss old melee commentary
@YumiSax6 жыл бұрын
What name commentary? Im sorry not speak english...
@squid-ink26285 жыл бұрын
@@YumiSax HomeMadeWaffles is the name
@DJSALTYNUTZ6 ай бұрын
we used to be a country
@SARCOM3R314 күн бұрын
SCAR is the best commentator. He is funny but doesn't disrespect the players like this video did
@cartermilan5 күн бұрын
@@SARCOM3R3 watch m2k vs mango at ROM 1 from the same year as this, scar was just as out of pocket
@titostacos12810 жыл бұрын
3:41 - Mango pulls out his laser and slaps Taj in the face
@catherinedurette6458 жыл бұрын
Ok. everyone sees the Lazer. but nobody saw that mango used the Firefox attack. HE LANDED FIREFOX!
@euclidismybro14518 жыл бұрын
nice meme
@splatbot80918 жыл бұрын
+Colby Durette Anyone can do that. I'm garbage and I land it all the time.
@catherinedurette6458 жыл бұрын
BronzeCylinder In a pro game.
@splatbot80918 жыл бұрын
Colby Durette A friend of mine , Doctor X, mains fox. He plays it professionally. but using firefox offensively leaves you open to hard punishes against some characters. So he doesn't use it often. Look Him up sometime, He's pretty good.
@fairtodair19908 жыл бұрын
+BronzeCylinder I've never heard of Doctor x but taj knocked mango into losers that same tourney, so for mango to do something like that is a serious mindgame.
@woodstock40898 жыл бұрын
The babies who cry about how "toxic" the old melee community was must've missed 4:23 huge respect for the dude that said that
@meltenvy8 жыл бұрын
+waifu-king pretty sure that was hmw
@christiansells1208 жыл бұрын
Nah, it was petty
@JohnBosson8 жыл бұрын
"give it up for taj, tho"
@FirstNameLastName-zp1wq8 жыл бұрын
The old Melee community was pretty toxic, I'm glad it's no longer like that.
@GaryOaksmash8 жыл бұрын
no it wasn't, don't confuse playful banter with toxic behavior
@RandomOrdinary_Girl_61235 жыл бұрын
"Mango gave this n**** the corporation" I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but that's funny as hell
@GhostbusterPalu4 жыл бұрын
Instead of saying "he gave him the business" (win something over someone in style), he's giving him something a lot bigger. What's bigger than a business? A corporation!
@pIayingwithmahwii2 жыл бұрын
@@GhostbusterPalu LOL you're the guy from the other video explaining the same thing!
@wettuna1769 Жыл бұрын
i started checkin out competitive smash when ultimate came out, found last stock legends and this set. Hearing the crowd absolutely lose their shit over seein a fox move crazier than they ever seen and waffs classic commentary gave me huge chills i rewatched this set so many times. Been playing melee every day for 3 years now because of this
@zachsteiner Жыл бұрын
That’s so awesome. I feel you though, when I discovered this set it really influenced me too when I got into competitive smash.
@elim90548 жыл бұрын
Christ, when Mango shines Taj off the stage at 3:00. That entire, like, second and a half of movement was so smooth and doing a single input wrong could have left Mango helplessly falling to his death.
@elim90548 жыл бұрын
*attempts to shine. He missed the shine spike, but that was still insane.
@Wakeee8 жыл бұрын
why did you point that out
@elim90548 жыл бұрын
Wake Because I wanted to lol
@bigidiotdumbstupidguy93297 жыл бұрын
I think it's all the little leadups. Like how M2K says "aiming behind" and "firing early" y'know? So starting at like 235 he starts with nair-shine/drill shine strings and the movement just throws Taj off to the point where he has to play so defensively that he's predictable. It's a great tactic. It's why Falco/Fox/Marth are the best characters in the game.
@st41556 жыл бұрын
To be fair he did miss like three wavedashes in there lol
@queercandy12 жыл бұрын
i come back and watch this video at least once a month. an absolute classic
@asup7596 жыл бұрын
the dude doesn't actually say "use your laser" it's the brawl doubles bracket announcer saying "mew2king and ally vs gnes and ultimaterazer" holy fuck
@xaviermcknight1510 Жыл бұрын
I love when the world throws out crazy moments like this
@Viddaric8 жыл бұрын
Hands down the greatest disrespect in Smash history.
@Plernatious8 жыл бұрын
+Viddaric mango's jab on hbox tho
@keirontravis8 жыл бұрын
+Plernatious That one was disrespectful to everyone.
@aaron53198 жыл бұрын
What about UltimaScout getting kneed?
@JosephStardust8 жыл бұрын
What about that time Ganondorf down-b'd Sheik when she couldn't recover?
@marcusberryman92767 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Stardust DISRESPECT EVERYBODY, I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE NOW SEEN
@Protnomc12 жыл бұрын
He said afterward on Smashboards that he considered it, but decided he wasn't going to take three games off of Mango with Mewtwo and didn't want to slow down Mango's play at all. In effect he sacrificed his last game in the hope of giving us all the most amazing Grand Finals we could have. Pretty cool! Though I'd liked to have seen it too. I really hope Taj enters singles at some big thing at least one more time. Couldn't believe the show he put on here.
@benjaminmedranda33110 ай бұрын
And this year taj is playing mewtwo at gensis 9, beautiful
@jabr0nicus9 жыл бұрын
game 2 of this set is the Muhammad Ali vs Cleveland Williams of melee
@highlyeducational41628 жыл бұрын
^
@Jackjack-kr1cz3 жыл бұрын
People forget how fucking fire Taj’s run was up to this point, it was actually out of nowhere how badly he was beaten here
@inthexis20889 жыл бұрын
3:40 *hurling noises*
@lastofdafast12 жыл бұрын
And at the end "Give it up for Taj, though" - and people start clapping. Damn, I love the melee community.
@sinic.8 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 4:32
@geldjunge2808 жыл бұрын
UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER DAWG, UNPLUG YOUR CONTROLLER. FORFEIT MA NIGGA !
@Elimbi18 жыл бұрын
That was one hilarious commentator :D
@dropthefreakinMOON7 жыл бұрын
anyone else watch this after watching mango vs. mew2king in losers finals at G4?
@aguy3082 Жыл бұрын
Taj just beat Mang0 at Genesis 9 with Mewtwo. What a world we live in.
@gnoogie Жыл бұрын
uh it might be good to mention mango played doc lol. what a dishonest thing to leave out
@aguy3082 Жыл бұрын
@@gnoogie cope and seethe, what's dishonest is pretending like that matters when doc is far better than Mewtwo. It's a lame thing to play a borderline viable character like doc or luigi and then john when you lose to a low-bottom tier as if all characters below Samus are in the same tier because your character "isn't viable."
@gnoogie Жыл бұрын
@@aguy3082 No one ever johned lmao. Mango said he still tried his ass off with doc. He lost fair and square, but the fact you specified Taj playing mewtwo and left out Mango going doc is just intellectually dishonest as fuck. It's about you painting one player going his secondary vs another players main (mewtwo and marth are both tajs mains) as this unprecedented upset over mango as if he lost with one of his spacies. If you don't understand why this matters, that's fucking crazy homie. GTFO with your weird-ass tangent about tiers n shit.
@mfdoom4358 Жыл бұрын
@@aguy3082 did you really just say cope and seethe lmaooo
@aguy3082 Жыл бұрын
@@mfdoom4358 cringe
@Lovage80513 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you one thing about watching these matches live, all the fox mains in the building were wet as fuck
@ToshiRolls3 жыл бұрын
After Zain/Mang0 you had to come back here
@Michael-hc2hp3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, looks like Mango's always been able to switch to Fox against Marth's and wreck them. The funny thing is that in Zain's video "Expert Breaks Down Famous Moments in Smash Bros. History" he says that Taj would've beaten Mango's Fox if he used stuff that Zain uses now. And then Zain gets beaten twice on FD and double eliminated by that same Fox just 10 years later
@adriannngp2012 Жыл бұрын
Revenge is sweet
@MeesterTweester Жыл бұрын
Taj gets his revenge at Genesis 9
@Orion-ve7kk10 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, for 2011 the level of play was already extremely advanced. Taj was literally reacting to fox side b with forward smash and mango was doing some crazy shit even for todays standards. This set continues to age incredibly
@sareaper692 жыл бұрын
Watching this set after watching Winners semis is insane. People had never seen this level before.
@XLNC_YL9 жыл бұрын
What is "The Corporation"?
@andrew91339 жыл бұрын
Anthony B It's a play on "he gave him the business." Corporation > business
@blandeanders74339 жыл бұрын
Mah dick
@NIDAK528 жыл бұрын
TTN
@Hulka109 жыл бұрын
classic set. one of my all time favorites
@xD1x13 жыл бұрын
@DannyMeasho9994 жыл бұрын
Screw you d1
@NoScrub10 жыл бұрын
All those M2KNairs.
@cartercartercartercar Жыл бұрын
lol what’s up everyone
@HKip9 ай бұрын
Hey
@NDNxXG6Xx7 жыл бұрын
So today I played against taj I wanted to see what happens when I go orange fox w/ NEO! tag annnndd.... Got bodied I felt that he hated me very much lmao
@corazonvibrante7 жыл бұрын
Taj Mewtwo?
@pIayingwithmahwii2 жыл бұрын
LOOOL that is so funny.
@NARKBALL5 жыл бұрын
Greatest fucking Lazer of all time. I could watch that clip over and over and over again and laugh my ass off
@TheOnlyPersona12 жыл бұрын
That double shine to end the first match was amazing. Can you imagine how fast you have to move your hands to get that within the frames?
@brownzangief2 жыл бұрын
Bro I hope you still follow melee because the wild shit you'll see today will give you second hand arthritis
@TheOnlyPersona2 жыл бұрын
@@brownzangief a decade later and the gameplay is beyond anything we imagined back then 😭😂
@ruka_77352 жыл бұрын
@@TheOnlyPersona You're already here 10 years after OMG !
@HKip9 ай бұрын
@@TheOnlyPersonaprops to you for not dying or losing your account
@TheOnlyPersona9 ай бұрын
@@HKip we still alive!
@catandfishfc Жыл бұрын
Taj finally got his revenge vs Doc Lee
@DaN4562310 жыл бұрын
im gay
@mrt8bit692 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that 11 years later Taj would beat him with what was once said the worst character
@peashooter6628 Жыл бұрын
It was Doc vs mewtwo btw lol
@mrt8bit692 Жыл бұрын
@@peashooter6628 Still though I mean mango was trying his hardest, also if you’ve seen any stream in the past 3 months that’s like all he plays
@EM7575 Жыл бұрын
@@mrt8bit692 I swear he said he was sandbagging at G9 tho. Might be johns after the fact idk
@mrt8bit692 Жыл бұрын
@@EM7575 idk with mango you never really know, then again he did look pretty focused during the set
@disgustingratsewer10 ай бұрын
he plays marth so it dosent matter 💀
@grasshopperrin1337 жыл бұрын
"I think we're all a little hard right now" ~ Mango
@nsiderultimaseth Жыл бұрын
HMW: "We ain't gonna do my boy Taj like that." Mango: *Does his boy Taj like that.*
@lavezzi7197 Жыл бұрын
taj just beat mango at genesis 9, coming full circle.
@xael-the-artist7708 Жыл бұрын
UNPLUG THE CONTROLLER DAWG
@lavezzi7197 Жыл бұрын
@@xael-the-artist7708 taj is playing f*cking amazing, I really don't see mango beating him.
@blayne7109 Жыл бұрын
I know somebody else already said it but I'm gonna do it anyway. Taj giving this nigga the corporation.
@Seank78 жыл бұрын
2:59 look at that fucking movement
@fronkmanthey2399 Жыл бұрын
Taj the goat
@sareaper692 жыл бұрын
Literally iconic
@free_playstation_2 Жыл бұрын
3:11 even the lead up to the clip is funny as hell lmao
@HKip11 ай бұрын
SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG
@FrekyD9 жыл бұрын
3:40 get fucking styled on, lmao.
@aaronb50659 ай бұрын
Mang0 hears the hoes callin his name, proceeds to unleash possibly the greatest set of all time.
@xxEpiczGamingxx11 жыл бұрын
I love this video. The commentary and gameplay is perfect
@17ness18 жыл бұрын
"Well ain't gon do mah boy taj like that. He's still in. He's still fighting." Riiiiiight...
@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion3 ай бұрын
This is peak melee commentary. I wish there is two different entities that picked up the smash community, one for "professional" commentary and the other for raw uncensored commentary.
@grasstypegabe37 жыл бұрын
so crazy to hear these exact same screams at royal flush over 5 years later
@idonnow28 жыл бұрын
Man that crowd must have demoralized the shit out of Taj
@smokemidnotmeth7 жыл бұрын
idonnow2 I know it's late but go to 4:24
@infiniteV11512 жыл бұрын
@pesticide7 That's not what he said, he was calling out Brawl matches. He said "Mew2King and Ally, Gnes and Ultimaterazer"
@adaml.23847 жыл бұрын
AIGHT WE GOT MANGEEZY!
@AAABattery249 жыл бұрын
...ouch. So are these supposed to be best of fives? Because there were only two games and... wow, I feel kind of bad for Taj now. To think Mango showed him up because someone in the crowd said using the laser on that Marth.
@Soundwves9 жыл бұрын
It was a best of 3(?).
@KashiwaDaisuke9 жыл бұрын
ChilledQuartet It was a best of 5, Taj forfeited the last game
@LunarySSF29 жыл бұрын
KashiwaDaisuke Poor Taj.
@linkkicksu4 жыл бұрын
That laser was just fucking beautiful. I miss watching old school Mango
@lvkoolbeans12 жыл бұрын
the phrase "get your lunch money taken" was made for this
@alexcreilson11 жыл бұрын
3:40 so disrespectful, i nearly peed. >that laugh in the background "AHHHAHHH HEHAHHEHAHHHHHHHH"
@dsx906913 жыл бұрын
Remember that video with SS and Taj...this is the Fox version of that video.
@darksinji13 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when fox is on point.
@OmegaRedEX8 жыл бұрын
That commentator was talking mad shit at the end... lol
@Kukzzzz13 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one watching this like every second day since it's been uploaded?
@user-hd4pj8yf9s7 жыл бұрын
this is one of the greatest moments of all time. The matrix is real
@somedudethatdoesthings80574 жыл бұрын
I never knew what "the corporation" was for years... Until I realised that's because he got "4 stocked."
@darkkevindu69823 жыл бұрын
3:40 best part
@Swarm56112 жыл бұрын
"Unplug the controller dawg!"
@gonfreak49515 жыл бұрын
I knew it was over when Taj started trying to use counter
@SchlimmShadySmash13 жыл бұрын
almost looks like Taj is supporting mango by letting himself get owned... to maybe intimidate Armada? I dunno
@mexismug8 жыл бұрын
I want a crowd mic (or commentators in the crowd) for genesis 3.
@Auddy078 жыл бұрын
@ 1:00 HMW says something like "Barakbah!" in reference to Prog/D1. Does anyone know where the clip of Prog/D1 saying that is? I remembering them saying it after some crazy set a long time ago.
@TheFoxmccloud128 жыл бұрын
Refering to pressure, d1 says it all the time
@rcdotjpeg8 жыл бұрын
He's saying "the pressure" but like "da presshah"
@hughneutron58015 ай бұрын
1:46 Mang0 learned that double shine from Zuppy
@abrown9038 жыл бұрын
2:18 "OH, shit!" -2 white guys
@TishGames10 жыл бұрын
honestly mango played good but taj played REALLY badly
@YUSoEpic9 жыл бұрын
***** Taj beat mango in winners tho XD
@BrickNGames9 жыл бұрын
***** did he?
@chis50509 жыл бұрын
***** Beat winners mango. There's a difference
@BrickNGames9 жыл бұрын
***** Mango lost to Hbox in losers at EVO lool
@chis50509 жыл бұрын
***** no shit?
@ltdzinger8 жыл бұрын
I hate Fox but this is swag as hell.
@LukeMM958 жыл бұрын
+ltdzinger How can you hate Fox after watching this? This is the match that made me start playing Fox.
@ltdzinger8 жыл бұрын
maybe because honestly imba characters are stupid?
@LukeMM958 жыл бұрын
ltdzinger imba?
@ltdzinger8 жыл бұрын
imbalanced.
@LukeMM958 жыл бұрын
ltdzinger I honestly think Marth is more broken than Fox.
@bdenhawk13 жыл бұрын
this might be the most amazing thing i have ever seen
@MDBrookman13 жыл бұрын
"Mango gave this nigga the CORPORATION." Why is this comment not quoted and liked into oblivion??
@nonduality111 жыл бұрын
1:47 when he shine>wd>strong nair>double shine was the initial shine a bait for taj to go for a grab and mango knew taj would grab and he knew the strong nair would connect so he went for a double shine?
@Tugnus13 жыл бұрын
@knihThink He even said at the tourney that if he had somehow won he would have let Mango go to GF because it would be a better set.
@NaotaTakkun13 жыл бұрын
taj wasn't given the business, he was given the entire corporation.
@17ness18 жыл бұрын
3:17 is that Ken?
@17ness18 жыл бұрын
nvm. Probably Phil
@scotchedtape8 жыл бұрын
idk you can hear phil come in before the "unplug ya controller" bit, his voice is higher than whoever that was
@17ness18 жыл бұрын
+Ratchet and Dank Yeah. That's what I was thinking.
@sammyedw49788 жыл бұрын
+17ness1 i think it may be lovage?
@Azzucips10 жыл бұрын
Mango plays for the crowd man, too sick
@MTKL1713 жыл бұрын
AND THIS... is when Mango isn't sandbaggin......
@fistoz46712 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when I get beaten, I think of that poor dude Taj during this set and I'm "oh well, could've been worse !" If I was one of his close friends, I'd message him this video every once in a while just for trolling :D
@Frostbyte1158 жыл бұрын
I look back at this video and remember how people complained about the laser thing here but say nothing when he did it to an ice climber player not to long ago. They say nothing at that point.
@abhisarma72496 жыл бұрын
Greatest set of all time
@Zinth13 жыл бұрын
@Gastogh My respect to Taj (especially as a friend of a friend), but Taj himself even acknowledges this.
@sam-yau13 жыл бұрын
@NaotaTakkun You can, and you should when you can time it and pull it off. Timed grabs out of shield while being shield pressured is actually a pretty recent metagame that used to be frowned upon back in the day. Always gotta be careful of good spacing though, those are tricky.