Genesis 3b: The Fall

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InspiringPhilosophy

InspiringPhilosophy

4 жыл бұрын

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Sources:
Kenneth A. Matthew - The New American Commentary: Genesis 1:1 - Genesis 11:26
Michael Heiser - The Unseen Realm
John Walton - The Lost World of Adam and Eve
John Walton - The NIV Application Commentary
Robert Alter - The Hebrew Bible: A Translation with Commentary
G. K. Beale - The Temple and the Church's Mission
Paul Morris and Deborah Sawyer - A Walk in the Garden
Herbert Brichto - The Names of God
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@capslock7780
@capslock7780 4 жыл бұрын
This, I think, is saving my faith. As a former Jehovah’s witnesses elder, I finally rejected JW based on their theology. But it has pushed me to an agnostic position. But you really help to have an more intellectual and historic based understanding of this questions in my mind. Thanks man
@casemichielsen2889
@casemichielsen2889 3 жыл бұрын
Amen! I used to have a coworker who was JW and had many good apologetic conversations with him. Because of that, I've done a lot of research about the JW religion and I have empathy for them. I too used to be an agnostic until I discovered the more intellectual traditions of Christian Theology! May God continue to guide you and bless you, brother.
@Baba_Wawa
@Baba_Wawa 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be saying a prayer that the Holy Spirit will teach you all things as we are told in the Word & that your faith is encouraged. I too was raised in a sect that was doctrinally challenged to put it kindly. Just like you I found myself falling away as I learned much of what I’d been taught was wrong or an outright lie. I fell away but always felt a sort of pull back to the Lord. I got deep into research & am eternally grateful to God that He lead me to truth, & blessed me with salvation & assurance of His love & grace! It is my sincere prayer that He do the same for you! My life has truly been a testament to the fact that we may give up on Him, but He does not give up on us! All we have to do is diligently seek Him, knock & He will answer!
@nomondejames6057
@nomondejames6057 3 жыл бұрын
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@ronnychristenjoyer6778
@ronnychristenjoyer6778 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad you stuck with it.
@X_mano
@X_mano 2 жыл бұрын
Do JW count themselves as Christians???
@halohair1118
@halohair1118 4 жыл бұрын
Dude i learn more from 1 day on your channel than 20 years of church.
@duckymomo7935
@duckymomo7935 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t something you’d discuss at church than SEMINARY
@chrisispissed
@chrisispissed 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let it discourage you from going to church tho!
@Baskl757
@Baskl757 2 жыл бұрын
You have to do bible group study type things to learn more in depth topics
@halohair1118
@halohair1118 2 жыл бұрын
@@Baskl757 even in bible study most of the people don’t really understand what they are talking about and they argue over the meaning of things. This guy breaks it down
@cristiancuscenco9912
@cristiancuscenco9912 2 жыл бұрын
@@halohair1118 This is one of the things that has recently prompted me to study a lot about Catholicism, it has a beautiful tradition of apologetics. And it has always been open-minded about the meaning of genesis and findings in science to enrich our understanding.
@allanlindsay8369
@allanlindsay8369 4 жыл бұрын
The research and work you put into this, indeed as with all your other presentations never fails to astonish me. Thank you!
@anthonyfenlon7542
@anthonyfenlon7542 4 жыл бұрын
Allan omg Lindsay mo tmo log
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he used the default windows movie maker. Because somehow it looks like it. But more professional.
@BIG_Z_69
@BIG_Z_69 3 жыл бұрын
I hate people that use “indeed” in a sentence.
@BIG_Z_69
@BIG_Z_69 3 жыл бұрын
Improper use of the word, “indeed”.
@allanlindsay8369
@allanlindsay8369 3 жыл бұрын
@@BIG_Z_69 hello and greetings to ya. What a contribution to the proceedings! Indeed, that must have racked a brain such as yours for hours and hours, indeed probably weeks. Hating on such a flimsy context indicates Atheism to the fore and as usual founded in piss taking and shite. Ciao.
@Lawrencelot89
@Lawrencelot89 4 жыл бұрын
Another act of mercy or blessing by God in this chapter is actually removing Adam and Eve from the garden. Because, in the garden they had access to the tree of life, which made them live forever. God did not want humans to live forever in a fallen state, as that would be terrible for the humans.
@Whisper-md9hs
@Whisper-md9hs 10 күн бұрын
Also given how the series shows both the fall of Lucifer & Man occurred simultaneously, it’s possible that the war in Revelation 12 occurred immediately after Adam & Eve ate from the tree. God may have removed Adam & Eve from the Garden at that moment because He knew that war was about to break out among the angels and he wanted to get Adam & Eve to safety
@Gorillarevolta
@Gorillarevolta 4 жыл бұрын
Christ grew up like a tender shoot. He is the Vine. Christ hung on the tree like fruit. He was taken off and put in the ground at the right time. Christ rose being the Firstfruits, the Seed that never perishes
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Ephesians 4 v 10 Jesus fills The Heavens The SEED did fall into the ground dead, but for just 3 days, creation 3 days, then another 3 days to fill it. 2x3 = 6 days Redemption 3 Days! What is raised is not the same as what was sown 1 Corinthians 15.
@sardinah70
@sardinah70 4 жыл бұрын
P Harrison excellent thank you
@christophersnedeker2065
@christophersnedeker2065 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ronnychristenjoyer6778
@ronnychristenjoyer6778 3 жыл бұрын
So that we may eat from the fruit of life, washed from the sin of adam.
@carmelcrunk9988
@carmelcrunk9988 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this for about the fifth time, Inspiring Philosophy broke down so many barriers. The misunderstanding of Genesis is based on traditional interpretation. This misinterpretation of scripture have led many to fall away. Thanks Inspiring Philosophy for this series. Hopefully you will be able to reach some of them who have fallen away.
@janepatton8100
@janepatton8100 4 жыл бұрын
His videos are very good!!! I have truly been blessed by them. However, no one is inerrant. With that being said, I want to offer a different perspective. He points out the difference between conception and birth, which is fine, but then gives commentary stating that the verse is referring to anxiety fueled by uncertainty in the *Future* conditions and needs of her children. I just don't see this being reality. Normally the only time someone has anxiety at conception, is if they didn't want to get pregnant. But that is certainly not what the scriptures are talkin about. Furthermore, grief or *anxiety in conception* is not the same as *anxiety about your child's future.* The argument could then be made that if that is the band-width of conception anxiety, then that would also include the pains of childbirth. This is why I believe the traditional translation of this passage is more accurate. Pain, sickness, anxiety, grief, and death were not God's original plan. But we know that childbirth brings with it extreme grief in the form of pain and anxiety. When it comes to a woman's desire being for a husband, and him ruling over her, I think this is pointing to a physical out working of a spiritual truth, sort of like homosexuality in Romans 1 is a physical out working of a spiritual truth... Namely, that the parable of man's rebellion towards God's headship and authority will be lived out through the marriage covenant in the form of the woman resenting his authority, and wanting to take the lead or be him altogether... today's popular culture is a perfect example of this. This will cause tension that will result in the man asserting and subsequently abusing his authority over her. Thus, the marriage covenant, along with every other aspect of creation, has been cursed by the Fall. Just another perspective to consider. Be blessed!!!
@Paul-gz5dp
@Paul-gz5dp 4 жыл бұрын
Another way to look at the presentation is that it is enlightening, and the traditional view is using religion to rule over people instead of bringing enlightenment and understanding so that we may grow.
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 4 жыл бұрын
@@Paul-gz5dp people have definitely misused religion.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Nice smiley 😊 face, the first teacher I had like many or even most people was my mum obviously a Woman! Thank God for Godly Women 🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏿🕊
@alessandrostabile6701
@alessandrostabile6701 Жыл бұрын
hi @carmel_crunk could you explain this to me?
@dongadon8697
@dongadon8697 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best Christian Apologetics channels on KZbin. If not the best. Great work as always, bro. God bless
@41A2E
@41A2E 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, the coke line analogy was unexpected and hilarious the way you presented it.
@ramoncales1210
@ramoncales1210 4 жыл бұрын
RadicalOne1912 yea I was crying when he said that 😂
@beckyrouse8033
@beckyrouse8033 4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense though
@marvalice3455
@marvalice3455 4 жыл бұрын
@@anahata3478 that depends on the church
@patrickkelly1766
@patrickkelly1766 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. What I thought less poignant was using a statue of Buddha in the same analogy. The real disruptive false god of our times would better represented by, I don't know, an expensive vehicle.
@vaskaventi6840
@vaskaventi6840 3 жыл бұрын
Why was it unexpected? Does your church NOT have a coke line?
@user-yn2ct2ie9m
@user-yn2ct2ie9m 4 жыл бұрын
I am so amazed on how much work you put into these videos. I haven't come across anyone with your work ethic for videos. This is coming from a theology major. So well done, thank you
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@emdefesadafe-apologetica630
@emdefesadafe-apologetica630 3 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy Subtitles English ou Espanhol, please.
@Ma-kd6lv
@Ma-kd6lv 4 жыл бұрын
My complaint is that I get impatient waiting for the next video
@junelledembroski9183
@junelledembroski9183 4 жыл бұрын
Ma91827538 I am hungry to hear about God as well.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 4 жыл бұрын
Patience friend . One of the fruit of the Holy Spirit Galations 5 22- 23 😉
@roycehuepers4325
@roycehuepers4325 Жыл бұрын
2 quotes actually come to mind on this subject as far as the curse goes. Sadness is caused by intelligence, the more you understand certain things, the more you wish you didn't understand them.” -Charles Bukowski Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. - Ernest Hemingway, The Garden of Eden
@parktol02
@parktol02 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished... what an excellent video. I honestly kept checking the time bar because I didn’t want it to end. Fabulous exegesis. This series is amazing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@zhihanlim3500
@zhihanlim3500 4 жыл бұрын
The nacash's temptation of Adam and Eve kinda reminds me of Yoda's quote in Empire Strikes Back "[The dark side] is quicker,easier,more seductive"
@juliancampbell245
@juliancampbell245 4 жыл бұрын
The tree should still exist if god created it. They never explains what happened to the Trees. Plus, trees reproduce other trees thru polynization. Makes no sense?
@zhihanlim3500
@zhihanlim3500 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliancampbell245 we are not told what species of tree it was. It could be both literal and metaphor
@juliancampbell245
@juliancampbell245 4 жыл бұрын
The dark side seduces EVERYONE. Its called sex trafficking and wealth. Everyone wants money... Thats when the darkside will come: church, employers, headhunters/recruiters, U.S. govt ...join the darkside, the darkside always provides!
@zhihanlim3500
@zhihanlim3500 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliancampbell245 are u srs?
@juliancampbell245
@juliancampbell245 4 жыл бұрын
@@zhihanlim3500 as serious as the bible is scripted like a bad sitcom!
@shanebert77
@shanebert77 Жыл бұрын
I've been praying for new sources to learn from. It's so difficult for me to find teachers that I trust to learn from. Ty Mike
@StudiesOfTheAncientNearEast
@StudiesOfTheAncientNearEast Жыл бұрын
Here are some names I would recommend of the top of my head when it comes to the Old Testament: John Walton Michael Heiser Ben Stanhope Kenneth Kitchen James Hoffmeier Benjamin Noonan Jeffrey Rose Richard Hess David Falk Tremper Longman
@kylef5474
@kylef5474 4 жыл бұрын
It was not an “evil” tree. Just the tree of the “knowledge of good & evil”.
@NOTTHASAME
@NOTTHASAME 4 жыл бұрын
The tree is a metaphor of Satan. The good was when he was the angel. The evil is what he had become . Knowledge is what he knew about God's way and the kingdom. The fruit was the seed of Satan and she did partake.
@VACatholic
@VACatholic 4 жыл бұрын
Also there's more than 2 trees. There's at least 3, or 4 depending on how you count.
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 4 жыл бұрын
@melanated and loving it with a melanated woman You make a claim and then when someone asks you to back it up, you instead insult them and run. Weak.
@ce2161
@ce2161 4 жыл бұрын
melanated and loving it with a melanated woman, that’s a false book. Read the true bible, your in a cult. Seriously, you can loose your salvation because of Mormon teachings.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Funny? A tree is known by its? Fruit! Make a tree Good & it’s fruit will Be Good! Jesus said You Must Be Born Again From Above 🕊
@dakotahill8193
@dakotahill8193 4 жыл бұрын
Wow just wow, you can tell how much work you've put into these videos! Youre doing a great job, and your research has been very beneficial to me. Thank you for your hard work and dedication, God bless
@JimHabash
@JimHabash 4 жыл бұрын
This was the 1st time I ever heard this channel , for some reason 3B the fall popped into my playlist as I dozed off on Roku one night. Blew me away. This whole Genesis series is awesome, well researched and presented. I just saw a preview for The Nephilim, whoa! I will look at many of your videos in depth. On Job right now as well. I was floundering in life, being hyper critical and over scientific and struggling to balance deaths and visions of close family members on their deathbeds with a few instances I have of people in cath labs who say they were sent back and spoke to God. I have been coming back to thinking that maybe earth isn't a prison planet. (My mom died of breast cancer after a long life of suffering and of being practically a saint and a spark of light in the world, she didn't have a good view of God in the end, she earned that way of thinking personally, through pain and suffering) and Lets just say your research is a bright light when I have needed it most.
@Belberith
@Belberith 4 жыл бұрын
I've legit never thought about most of the things presented in this video, so it's incredibly refreshing and exciting to get such a nuanced and new perspective on things. Well done; I'll definitely give your other videos on Genesis a watch!
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor 4 жыл бұрын
This series has been amazing so far. Learning so much. More than from any sermon I can think of. Keep it up, your insights are much appreciated.
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 4 жыл бұрын
You have a gift for this Michael! Thank you for your hard work!
@tonybasoni8443
@tonybasoni8443 4 жыл бұрын
SA,....This guy is a false prophet.
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonybasoni8443 Everyone is a false prophet these days 🙄 will you stop looking for problems with everyone.
@marcellofunhouse1234
@marcellofunhouse1234 11 ай бұрын
Their comment is gone what did they say?
@coffeemkr0
@coffeemkr0 4 жыл бұрын
Do not snort - I snorted with laughter at that part.
@matthewsasu7682
@matthewsasu7682 4 жыл бұрын
I am in awe for this level of work, top notch. Thanks so much. I definitely going through the entire series
@jonahkane7027
@jonahkane7027 4 жыл бұрын
The best video you have made!! You have no idea how much this has helped overcome my barriers to the faith 🙏
@raptorspostgametalk27
@raptorspostgametalk27 4 жыл бұрын
This series is very informative and enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
@stephendianda1543
@stephendianda1543 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this very impatiently
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your detail comments on the first few chapters of Genesis. They've also always been difficult for me. So thanks.
@AIXITstageleft
@AIXITstageleft 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the BEST Bible study I have found on KZbin. I've been researching and researching to find confirmation in scripture that actually makes sense to my spiritual intuition, my emotional soul and my human Intellect ALL together in one! Thank-you!
@annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239
@annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my absolute favorite channels on KZbin, please keep it up!
@emiliog8548
@emiliog8548 3 жыл бұрын
Bro your videos are life changing! The work you do is a blessing. There are always things we will get incorrect but this series on genesis has brought so much peace to my mind! The weight that evangelical pastors put on young kids when they preach that the earth is 10,000 years old and that evolution is false, is enormous. It’s no wonder that most teens wonder away from their faith once they get educated at University! Your videos open peoples eyes to how real our Lord is!
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 4 жыл бұрын
I like you mentioned that Solomon asked God to give him wisdom instead of just taking it so it may be that a lot of things are permissible to God he just wants us to acknowledge Him First like Solomon did.
@bennie35lt
@bennie35lt 4 жыл бұрын
Solomon asked for "wisdom", not "knowledge". Two different things!
@CentripetalDrifterAJ
@CentripetalDrifterAJ 2 жыл бұрын
This is remarkably put together. You can see the work and study you've put into it. This helps me a lot with my understanding of Genesis and the Bible as a whole.
@didiernuncio70
@didiernuncio70 4 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with everything said here but nevertheless a decent analysis
@HeavenestStCyr
@HeavenestStCyr 4 жыл бұрын
He gave facts but yet still a lot of his opinions thereafter are still conjectures and somewhat of a stretch.
@carbon273
@carbon273 4 жыл бұрын
Heavenest St. Cyr I think it’s good for open discussion. Not many people like to talk about this stuff.
@simeonakinleye6575
@simeonakinleye6575 3 жыл бұрын
Good talk. Good analysis. God is always merciful and gracious to our carelessness, but His word is His bond. Sure the tree is not evil etc. More grace for future work.
@stefanlarsson3403
@stefanlarsson3403 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! God bless you 🙌
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 4 жыл бұрын
What amazing insight and explanations! You are a gifted teacher, so thanks for sharing your gift with all of us. I'm much smarter now, than 30 minutes ago, and that's only because of you.
@darkthrone7201
@darkthrone7201 Ай бұрын
I thank God for people like you, keep doing what you're doing its helping a lot.♥️🙏
@d-vision2426
@d-vision2426 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a major eye-opener to me. God lead me here because he knew I was seeking the truth.
@sfwisdom6673
@sfwisdom6673 4 жыл бұрын
Just got yourself a new patreon member!! I'm hooked!! Let's goo!!!!
@littlejimmy5370
@littlejimmy5370 4 жыл бұрын
Were still in a learning process, like a child like state to God. Good stuff. Makes u think, u cant learn this stuff overnight. But were so eager, it's a unexplainable feeling.
@Orthosaur7532
@Orthosaur7532 3 ай бұрын
Mark 10:15 "Whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it." ❤
@cdcm17
@cdcm17 4 жыл бұрын
Great research and editing brother, very informative! God bless you and keep up the good work!
@LouLikestowatch
@LouLikestowatch 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this! Everything makes so much sense.
@DABEEZ737
@DABEEZ737 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is with second guessing antiquity is that you can never know.. only surmise. To then claim that as a fact... Is indeed folly.. Very interesting narrative none the less. Mans interpretation is always limited by their personal understanding. The more you know the less you know. The more you think you understand, the less you actually understand. The more granular you get.. the more gets revealed.. It is a never ending seeking for some. Just when you think you got it sussed.. It all falls apart.. Such is life.
@marshapple
@marshapple 4 жыл бұрын
wow. I gotta get my husband to watch this. Amazing work, bro! God bless
@ThinkingPreacher-ex8jg
@ThinkingPreacher-ex8jg 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this series
@lifeisnow3944
@lifeisnow3944 Жыл бұрын
I am very much interested in watching your docs cos you have greatly invested time much deeper than I could. Praise The Lord brother
@meccamiles7816
@meccamiles7816 4 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good analysis. Thanks for sharing.
@MrACS23
@MrACS23 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown
@alicesbeloved
@alicesbeloved 4 жыл бұрын
Very good biblical study. Thank you for uploading. Will share.
@thefactoryratgenius4659
@thefactoryratgenius4659 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your imagery and editing is amazing. Nice work!
@Ingridskates
@Ingridskates 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you made these videos! It is helping to establish healthy, logical perspective during my spiritual awakening.
@tommybeatz4678
@tommybeatz4678 4 жыл бұрын
Ingrid EyebrowLady be careful to stay away from new age teaching
@Ingridskates
@Ingridskates 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommybeatz4678 What's your concern? I love Jesus Christ and I also love new age positivity. It's improving my charity and christ like love for people.
@tommybeatz4678
@tommybeatz4678 4 жыл бұрын
Ingrid EyebrowLady there’s only one way to the father , and that’s thru Jesus Christ. No other religion can save you be careful you don’t take heed to any evil doctrines like Astro projection. there’s a ex satanist that talks about Astro projection I think his name is John Ramirez . Make sure you go by the Bible not any other religion or new age practices
@Ingridskates
@Ingridskates 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommybeatz4678 Nobody really knows the outcome for certain. All we can do as humans is be free to believe. I choose to believe in every possible good thing. I don't have to subscribe to a specific way of life in order to have a peaceful existence, knowing my soul is safe with God. I feel as if I am finally one with God. I reached this through my belief that God is omniscient. No one human can put limits on God or the universe and that is inspiring!
@tommybeatz4678
@tommybeatz4678 4 жыл бұрын
Ingrid EyebrowLady do you believe in the Bible ?
@IsChosen33
@IsChosen33 3 жыл бұрын
These videos brought me closer to God..... 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@angielinag
@angielinag 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, thank you and God bless 😇🙏🏼
@WiseAsSerpentsHarmlessAsDoves
@WiseAsSerpentsHarmlessAsDoves 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining things to those who don't understand them while reading
@obaby3094
@obaby3094 4 жыл бұрын
IP, do you have links to your sources so that we can purchase their books and/or build a study off these sources. It would be awesome. This content is rich and has really helped me grow in understanding the Scripture. I've had many healthy conversations with people due to your content. Thank you
@obaby3094
@obaby3094 4 жыл бұрын
Forgive me, I see your sources are listed in the description. 🤙
@FishersofTheRemnant
@FishersofTheRemnant 4 жыл бұрын
Rebellion and who it was they were listening to. Revelation tells us the ultimate adversary (Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan,) was evil at that time (John 8:44 he was a murderer from the beginning).
@fallenmorningstar99
@fallenmorningstar99 7 ай бұрын
I love this channel…well done to creator…very insightful!
@topdawg6008
@topdawg6008 4 жыл бұрын
May you see the light for sharing such knowledge
@gleasonparker1684
@gleasonparker1684 4 жыл бұрын
It must be understood that when we are born again there is something actually created a new person. This spiritual connection with God is something that is eternal and cannot be lost in this age by the Christian. He's eternally with God.. when he thinks God thinks ..he hears God in the spirit and responds to God in the spirit by his thoughts. This is in Union with God which is what the in God means. It is in Union with God. The most profound thing that can happen to an individual in this world. It is the guarantee in the substance of eternal life for the one who is born again WHO only desires to do God's will he only desires to hear God's thought. This is the essence of the born-again experience it is real and tangible it is a Return to Eden it is to have God's spirit and power inherent in our physical bodies now. Can anything be better than this?
@beckyrouse8033
@beckyrouse8033 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain Mathew 25 30 to me as I'm trying to reconcile it with what you are saying
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Verse 24. He obviously didn’t Know The Lord because the man thinks The Lord is harsh but HE is Loving & forgiving, but HE also says you reap what you sow, Grace is working out your Salvation with reverence and love for HIM NOAH had too build the Ark before he could hide in it! Most people have heard of God but have Not got intimacy with HIM. Lord make Yourself known to us 🙏🏻
@mysticalglowtv1796
@mysticalglowtv1796 4 жыл бұрын
@@P.H.888 That doesn't really answer it for me as he is referred to as a servant.
@logosfocus
@logosfocus 2 жыл бұрын
@@mysticalglowtv1796 ur looking for reasons to abandon faith 🕊
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 3 жыл бұрын
The serpent did indeed lie. He told them that the reason God didn't want them to eat of the Tree of Knowledge was because He was afraid that they would become like Him - knowing Good and Evil. But the bible says that God made them in His image and LIKENESS. They were already LIKE God. He does what any good salesman can do - he sold them what they already had.
@louiseama00
@louiseama00 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video 🙏🏽✝️
@robertkinslow8953
@robertkinslow8953 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown.
@sevenswords8781
@sevenswords8781 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus restored the Spirit, we become born again in spirit, complies very well with Adams fall, his death was spiritual. something to think about for the day. I really enjoyed this thank you.
@ronimuca
@ronimuca 2 жыл бұрын
The line of cocaine part cracked me up 😂😂😂😂
@tammyleederwhitaker649
@tammyleederwhitaker649 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your time and sharing .God Bless You.🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷1111. My two favorite books of the Bible to read have always been Proverbs and Job. I enjoy Genesis as well.
@braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361
@braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361 4 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge bro
@tommyzoom9976
@tommyzoom9976 4 жыл бұрын
And I thought I was early...
@InspiringPhilosophy
@InspiringPhilosophy 4 жыл бұрын
tommy zoom it is early for all patreon supporters.
@tommyzoom9976
@tommyzoom9976 4 жыл бұрын
@@InspiringPhilosophy yh I remember the community post from a few days ago
@noescape2108
@noescape2108 4 жыл бұрын
So eating from the tree of Knowledge could be viewed similar to receiving the Eucharist when in a state of sin, that it was a sacrilege?
@someguy9571
@someguy9571 4 жыл бұрын
I would say so. The Cross is the new Tree of Life, and Christ's Body and Blood are the fruit of that tree.
@GarciaonlyJesus
@GarciaonlyJesus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video brother this video answer my question!! Also clarify more what happened that day!!!! Thank you
@JJSOL1
@JJSOL1 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. This was always my understanding of the tree.
@danpaulisbitski
@danpaulisbitski 4 жыл бұрын
The lessons of Genesis are many and profound.The serpent didn’t lie to Eve, but by withholding the full consequence of their actions he took advantage of their ignorance, pride, and innocence.I think we see that Eve had a childlike understanding of morality by her immediate resistance to take the fruit. I think the “Knowledge” they obtained was by their disobedience they began to understand the consequences of evil immediately resulting in their shame and loss of innocence. Where I think I differ from your interpretation is that I think that they should have died the day they ate from the tree.I think we see a foreshadowing of the Gospel when God sacrifices the innocent animal in the garden, which not only provided coverings for them, but for their sin and allowed for them to escape death that day.To be fair, you haven’t got to that verse yet.I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks and God bless you.
@danpaulisbitski
@danpaulisbitski 4 жыл бұрын
Rajan Dhanuskodi Although I also came across this interpretation recently, I don’t think it is new.The beauty of the Internet is how easy it has become to hear a wide variety of views.I encourage everyone to not be afraid to hear a variety of interpretations.This interpretation also made a lot of sense to me and got me excited about the OT. God bless you.
@JordonHill
@JordonHill 4 жыл бұрын
The serpent didn’t lie? Therefor God must have. You guys seem all too comfortable going down this path?! I think it might pay to go back to the drawing board with the following axioms; the serpent is the father of all lies, and; God is truth...
@tomrhodes1629
@tomrhodes1629 4 жыл бұрын
You will not understand "the fall" until read my book "The Holy Grail is Found." No brag, just fact. Give me a "click" for video information....
@postplays
@postplays 4 жыл бұрын
@@JordonHill the serpent didnt lie in the sense that he used his cunning to his advantage. He knew that eve was an innocent and naive child and he merely bent the truth of what God said and used Eve's arrogance to massage her ego.
@JordonHill
@JordonHill 4 жыл бұрын
Post-it thanks for clarifying your position although I think we have a different view. Please let me try to clarify my view; Sin and true are both archery terms and in some sense opposites. If the arrow runs true it runs perfectly straight and hits the target. Sin is when it misses and therefore runs bent or off-target. I think that bending the truth is not possible. There is only truth or sin. I also think there is ample evidence that this is the worldview employed in biblical times. Thanks for your thoughts.
@notyourfriendbuddy
@notyourfriendbuddy 4 жыл бұрын
I always found it amusing that Adam & Eve covered themselves with fig leaves, which are rough and itchy.
@madara2051
@madara2051 4 жыл бұрын
@Milk Man You're insane.
@fanoflego456
@fanoflego456 4 жыл бұрын
Surely that joke would be covered by Ephesians 5:4. What do you think? To be honest I'm a little confused about what counts.
@jamielouis4506
@jamielouis4506 4 жыл бұрын
Milk Man you have great knowledge, god bless you.
@leontedev
@leontedev 4 жыл бұрын
@Milk Man Interesting perspective. Is there any source where I can read more on this?
@roseofsharonm2318
@roseofsharonm2318 4 жыл бұрын
Where does it say he clothed them with animal skin's?
@duatahauhnar1188
@duatahauhnar1188 4 жыл бұрын
im really impressed with your analytical philosophy as well as context (Bible) criticism.... i really impressed with your presentation/videos, so mind blowing for seeking Biblical truths
@Bluhake
@Bluhake 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you man.
@misterstudentloan2615
@misterstudentloan2615 4 жыл бұрын
Dang man that was good
@BioBroly111
@BioBroly111 4 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on The Bible Project youtube channel?
@parktol02
@parktol02 4 жыл бұрын
That channel is 🔥🔥🔥
@nixcutus
@nixcutus 4 жыл бұрын
this is a great video thank you very much.
@theboi553
@theboi553 4 жыл бұрын
Every new video this dude makes seems like the new best one.
@accabb2487
@accabb2487 4 жыл бұрын
These are so good! I wonder if Adam made the addition when he told Eve not to touch it. Eve came after God gave the warning, so maybe when Adam passed on the warning he said "don't even touch it!"
@drengibami5204
@drengibami5204 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that you should debate Ken Ham on the narratives of Genesis. If you can expose how Young Earth Creationism doesn’t correlate with Genesis, we can start a new kind of discussion about Genesis.
@samueldani4283
@samueldani4283 4 жыл бұрын
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@qcbtbx
@qcbtbx 4 жыл бұрын
Woooow! Really good stuff here.
@thetrollpatrol8799
@thetrollpatrol8799 4 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah that the man from heaven did not fail!
@tylerx099
@tylerx099 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve always believed that the tree of knowledge of good and evil was a bad thing and that Adam and Eve didn’t know right from wrong before they ate the fruit. However, now looking back on it...yeah my old view did not made sense. For one, knowledge of good and evil is not a bad thing at all. Since God has it as well as his divine council and it just basically means having a wiser discernment between good and evil
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Do Not Snort‼️ 😤 😂👍🏼
@easypoultry6747
@easypoultry6747 Жыл бұрын
This is excellent!!
@arnoldustwumasi1253
@arnoldustwumasi1253 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant thank you dear sir
@reubenlyimo
@reubenlyimo 4 жыл бұрын
Creation ministries international and answer in gensis should watch these videos on genesis because clealry they have no understanding of the text when i see these videos it makes me so frustrated to see how many people have rejected Christ because of being forced to believe this young perfect earth genesis story if only you had come about sooner and people learned about what truly happened in genesis
@TimberWulfIsHere
@TimberWulfIsHere 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see CMI's response, they are the better of creationists.
@reubenlyimo
@reubenlyimo 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimberWulfIsHere it would mediocre too say the least
@TimberWulfIsHere
@TimberWulfIsHere 4 жыл бұрын
@@reubenlyimo I don't think so, many of the writers are quite knowledgeable; don't let your bias get in the way of that, even if you disagree with them.
@biblebus1080
@biblebus1080 4 жыл бұрын
That has got to be the silliest statement. I don't have a biblical degree, but even I know most everything put out by this channel is unbiblical and nonsense founded from lack of knowledge, along w incredible misunderstandings. The key to understanding the Bible is first to read and breakdown the words in its original language. U can do this for free w an app called blue letter Bible. The second is studying commentaries and such and not from Jewish "scholars". Why anyone today puts stock in Jewish anything I don't know as they don't even believe in Jesus, but this channel loves doing that. The last thing is to stick to the black parts of the Bible instead of interjecting ur own limited and bias thoughts into the white.
@shawnbrumagin
@shawnbrumagin 4 жыл бұрын
Bible Bus people put stock in the Jewish writings because THE WHOLE BIBLE IS A JEWISH WRITING. Christianity is a Jewish religion. You were only grafted in by grace.
@VierthalerStudios
@VierthalerStudios 4 жыл бұрын
The go to argument for any YEC. All YEC’s need to see this video.
@funwiththedurdenboys7206
@funwiththedurdenboys7206 2 ай бұрын
I have been learning the truths of the Holy Spirit for 2 years coming to this video, I had bits and pieces of the truth and this gives me more pieces to the puzzle Ty
@juanduffo9881
@juanduffo9881 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you and mainly thanks to God for this video. I think it makes a lot of sense in regards to scripture by not being problematic with the rest of the Bible.
@austintucker394
@austintucker394 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Eve being named" mother of all living" was Adams outward act of faith in God's promise that the snake crusher would be born from her?
@austintucker394
@austintucker394 4 жыл бұрын
@Valpurgis Tachyon not according to the Bible.
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773 4 жыл бұрын
@Valpurgis Tachyon nope, Adam names his wife Eve after they are cursed after the fall. The First Book of Moses, Called Genesis 3:20: "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." The fall happened in Genesis 3:6-7
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773 4 жыл бұрын
@Valpurgis Tachyon oh well he indeed named her "woman" but she did not have the name "Eve" until after the fall, this is what I'm arguing here
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773
@hectordanielsanchezcobo1773 4 жыл бұрын
@Valpurgis Tachyon if you re-read OP's comment you'll see he is talking about the name "Eve" (meaning mother of all living) which indeed was given after the fall
@busybody1474
@busybody1474 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else have to slow down these videos and pause here and there, in order to process all of this info? Yikes
@stellau3028
@stellau3028 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant thank you.
@nathanaelbuchanan341
@nathanaelbuchanan341 3 жыл бұрын
This was really good
@drooskie9525
@drooskie9525 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty good, and mostly agree with this. Though, I think you may have been ragging on Adam and Eve too hard, as if they had malicious intent. The Serpent made them question the integrity of God (which produces doubt) and made them feel like they lacked something needed for Life (to which you can argue, they did), but the Serpent made them eat from the Tree of Knowledge and do it from a point of self-effort (thinking they have to save themselves) to attain life and satisfy the lack that the Serpent made them feel they had. Concupiscence manifested in them (We all want to live, of course) and they ate. Unfortunately, they gained the wisdom, but now they interpret that wisdom as them needing to clothe themselves by their own effort. A never ending cycle of trying to satisfy your own lack when only God can do that. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was intended to show them to the Tree of Life so that they may live forever. Satan deceived them, and caused all of this.
@conk3rryan422
@conk3rryan422 4 жыл бұрын
great insight! thank you for sharing 👍
@drooskie9525
@drooskie9525 4 жыл бұрын
@@conk3rryan422 Appreciate it. People need to see that our Sin wasn't a problem to God, he wasn't gonna let that stop his love for us and stop his plan for humanity. Sin needs to be seen as a intruder, rather than what we falsely think is some inherent identity of ours. Being a Sinner just means someone who does not partake in the divine nature. Humans need to be viewed from the point of God's love and will for us, not defined by Sin. Satan is judged and condemned so harshly for a reason.
@bryanalvarado9755
@bryanalvarado9755 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Kibler “what we falsely see as an inherent identity of ours” in reference to sin. Doesn’t Jeremiah say “the heart is desperately wicked, who can know it?”. Doesn’t James say we sin when “we are drawn away of our OWN lust.”? It is an inherent identity to the natural man, so in other words, it is an inherent part of us. Man is not fundamentally good, nor is he fundamentally evil. We are sinful by nature, but divine by spirit. Caught between the two.
@drooskie9525
@drooskie9525 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryanalvarado9755 Sin is a belief, it is not a inherent part of our make up. Otherwise, you have to say God created us Sinful. Man is fundamentally good according to what God intended. It's important to not mix up with what you see in your flesh with who you are as a human being.
@bryanalvarado9755
@bryanalvarado9755 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Kibler I appreciate your response! This is not to say God created us sinful. Rather, he created us with a choice. Do we follow the “natural” part of man which Paul talks heavily about. Or do we follow the “spiritual” part of man. He who walks by faith. Sin is an inherent part of man but he doesn’t have to be defined by that. The “renewing of your minds” and “the putting off of the old man”, if we start with the assumption that evil is external from man, then there is no need for any renewing.
@oncewereheathens9364
@oncewereheathens9364 4 жыл бұрын
They were never going to be allowed to eat from the tree after a period of time, the wording is “knowledge of good and evil,” it’s an intimacy statement, not a statement of intellectual expansion, though that would be a kind of byproduct. If that was the case, the wording would have been “good [from] evil,” which would indicate a mere intellectual development. This is where many go wrong when they claim that God was withholding “knowledge” from Adam and Eve, so as to keep them in a childish state, which is obviously false. Additionally the verses you quoted from Isaiah, 2 Samuel, and 1 Kings speak of “discerning right from wrong,” which is not the same as having “knowledge of good and evil.” Right back to the difference between the words “and” or “from. One speaks of seeing the difference and the other experiencing. Adam and Eve had two options before them, either 1) know only good, or 2) defy God and know evil also, obviously bringing about the need for a saviour, which was always part of God’s plan to express the fullness of character and Glory, hence why he immediately clothed them. All a foreshadowing of things to come in Christ. But you’re absolutely right, the tree was not evil, God said everything he created was good, and that included the tree in question. It’s like you said, many things/actions are good and not sinful, but they can be done in a sinful way. Appreciate your videos, don’t agree with everything, but definitely respect your efforts. The rest of the video is great. Something that does stand out that I forgot to add is that the tree was literally a stumbling block, which is exactly why the new heaven and new earth are said to have every stumbling block removed. There will be no cause for stumbling.
@Tom-qo4mz
@Tom-qo4mz 3 жыл бұрын
I don't follow your train of thought in your first paragraph so I am not grasping what you're trying to say. This is not a criticism for the sake of it, but I don't think they way you've written it is as clear as it could be. You seem to think your conclusion is justified by your reasoning, so am very interested to try and understand: would you care to try restating it again for me? Assigning intimacy for one and intellectual ascension to the other is not clear to me, similarly for 'seeing' for one and 'experiencing' for the other. Both involve some form of 'knowing,' but just different ways. Separately (although kind of related), re: second para and options 1 and 2, would I be correct in assuming that in both these two options you'd agree that A&E would 'know' evil in both, but in different ways? i.e. in 1) they would have to 'know' good at the very least of being able to conceive in their minds (imagine) transgressing God's commandment without actually doing it (i.e. knowing evil in the sense of 'seeing' (imagining) evil) while in 2) it would be 'knowing' in the sense of not only directly engaging in evil themselves but also directly experiencing the consequences of that evil? I ask because to my mind I think surely in order for 1) to work, A&E must have at least been able to conceptually mentally and intellectual ascend (think of and imagine) the _idea_ of evil (transgressing God's commandment)? I say this because without the ability to do this, the charge that always comes in free will discussion would hold re: just being puppets/robots without moral autonomy and not actually having any freedom to choose anything other than good, which would make life effectively meaningless/pointless. In fact, by virtue of having the option to engage in sin, I think it would be sound to conclude that it is definitely the case that in both 1) and 2) there remains the necessary freedom to 'know' evil by being able to mentally conceptualise it (imagine it, think about the consequences of choosing to do a particular thing). So when you give option 1) as 'only know good,' I want to understand what you mean by this. Apologies if this doesn't make sense and is rambling, I am very tired.
@easeupthoughts4399
@easeupthoughts4399 2 жыл бұрын
This was really well thought out. I'm really interesting if you'll do a video on the book of revelation
@alfredcuri6782
@alfredcuri6782 4 жыл бұрын
May God have Mercy on us .God bless so amazing to her our father in heaven wors
@teckwee18
@teckwee18 4 жыл бұрын
If Adam and eve are not the first mankind, when they fall, are there other mankind who didn't fall? Did I hear you wrongly?
@TheWarriorLV
@TheWarriorLV 4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Ting I think he just means there were other people in the world at the same time ?
@teckwee18
@teckwee18 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheWarriorLV if there are other people around, and have not taken the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, won't these people not fallen?
@teckwee18
@teckwee18 4 жыл бұрын
@Charles Pieters I'm not trolling. I like his work. But if you following the argument made in @20.24. you will realise that he said Eve is not the first of all mankind. My motive is to wish to understand how this can be reconciled.
@TheWarriorLV
@TheWarriorLV 4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Ting I think only Adam and Eve were invited into the garden as the first of mankind, whereas the rest were outside the garden. That’s the possibility I think of
@janepatton8100
@janepatton8100 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of your videos to include Genesis 3a, which were truly insightful. However, I believe you are way off as it pertains to Genesis 3:16. You point out the difference between conception and birth, which is fine, but then, you give commentary stating that the verse is referring to anxiety fueled by uncertainty in the *Future* conditions and needs of her children. I just don't see this being reality. Normally the only time someone has anxiety at conception, is if they didn't want to get pregnant. But that is certainly not what the scriptures are talkin about. Furthermore, grief or *anxiety in conception* is not the same as *anxiety about your child's future.* The argument could then be made that if that is the band width of conception anxiety, then that would include the pains of childbirth as well. This is why I believe the traditional translation of this passage is more accurate. Pain, sickness, anxiety, grief, and death were not God's original plan. But we know that child birth brings with it extreme grief in the form of pain and anxiety. When it comes to a woman's desire being for a husband, and him ruling over her, I think this is pointing to a physical out working of a spiritual truth, sort of like homosexuality in Romans 1... Namely, that the parable of man's rebellion towards God's headship and authority will be lived out through the marriage covenant. This will cause tension that will result in the man asserting and subsequently abusing his authority over her.
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus bless her marriage 🙏🏻 take away all the curses you Took Away ‼️
@droe2570
@droe2570 3 жыл бұрын
"I just don't see this being reality. " Why not? Exiled from the garden, with food and livelihood being uncertain, why would she not have anxiety for her children and grandchildren? To say otherwise makes no sense whatsoever. "Normally the only time someone has anxiety at conception, is if they didn't want to get pregnant." In the ancient world, the opposite was feared, that a wife would NOT get pregnant. You can't compare today's casual sex environment with the ancient world. "This will cause tension that will result in the man asserting and subsequently abusing his authority over her." This sounds like a feminist reading of the text, rather than a scholarly reading of it.
@user-mq3vy6ov8e
@user-mq3vy6ov8e Жыл бұрын
WOW! This is amazing. 🥰
@TheBanjoShowOfficial
@TheBanjoShowOfficial 10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but the lines of crack on the church welcome center made me LOL, like seriously the “do not snort” sign is great
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