Genesis - Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (Full keyboard cover)

[@anthonytoner11]

When you hear the songs stripped back like this you immediately see a consistency in the bands writing, despite criticism that they sold out during Collins era. Listening to this compares to the structure of Fountain of Salmacis and One For The Vine; the opening riff, the complex chord sequence in middle, then the bridge, before original riff at the end.

[@MathGsr]

I play both Gabriel and Collins genesis since we have a home tribute band of 1970-1975 genesis. And trust me that 1986-1998 genesis is as hard (if not harder for some songs) as early era. Banks writting is and will always be complex and beautiful pieces. Listen to « an island in the darkness », it was written at the time where genesis was criticized the most :)

[@ohiyotrippole6645]

These notes have been with me since I first heard them in 1987. I don't recall hearing anything like them prior to or since. Thanks for the upload.

[@pandosquaremusic8408]

@Math Gsr thanks again!! Each time I paid attention to this song, was frustrated to track the "marimba" sound as to figure which was the progression of the notes. First time I can appreciate an "isolated" sound of it.!! In addition to all the interesting comments and to your superb performance, can't skip to mention: nice jacket of yours @Math Gsr!!!!!!. Got confused for a couple of seconds because as I can remember there are no "ceiling" cameras on the 1987 Wembley Concert. Thought was Tony himself on concert!! =) Nice detail!!

[@MathGsr]

Thank you soooo much :D Well I must admit it took me a bit of time to spot the progression of the marimba sound but now you can take my video as a tutorial :) I’m so so glad you noticed the jacket !! and confusing people because I look like tony : this is definitely the achievement of a life hahaha ! Thanks again man !

[@thebod1]

I love how you recreated the marimba sound with the DX7, but Tony did not use the DX7. Tony has said in an interview it was the marimba preset from his AKAI sampler (the S950 which was 12 bit) he ran it through an echo (probably the Roland RE201 or some 80s digital model) which gave it that "milk bottle" sound. Still, I love your videos and keep them coming!

[@anthonytoner11]

You've nailed it again. Love the solo at 4.17, favourite part of the entire song.

[@MathGsr]

Thanks Antono! Same for me, this part is awesome

[@Nito654]

Esta es para mí una de las canciones más especiales de Genesis de los años 80s y la versión en vivo es una de las mejores versiones.... Muy buen trabajo!!

[@terje6956]

Amazing. i love it❤

[@MathGsr]

Thank you !!

[@ribouleaucaty9135]

Super, quel plaisir d'entendre les Rolling Stones à chaque fois !

[@MathGsr]

Ahhhh 😮 tu veux sûrement dire les Beatles, pas grave je te pardonne

[@NCMountainDavis]

During the marimba key clicks I hear a sustained string sound. In the concert video feed it looks like he held down his left pinky finger to carry the strings sound. There’s more going on than the marimba sounds in the beginning.

[@sidneiribeiro3883]

You're a real Tony Banks fan 😎

[@MathGsr]

Hahaha that was a pretty good analysis 😁😁

[@IanDixonTDL]

Another great video. You make it looks really easy but we know its not!

[@MathGsr]

Thanks mate ! Well it’s definitely one of the hardest ! :D

[@Darrin.Crawford]

That was awesome. May I ask where the "Whistling" lead line (main riff) in the beginning comes from?? And also which string patch is used on the Synclavier (arpeggiated riff) and lastly the string line in the middle (5:00) mark.Thanks so much. What a treat that was. How did you enjoy TB's interview??

[@MathGsr]

Thanks a lot !! Very kind comment :) I tried to recreate what you call the whistling sound as accurate as tony did, by combining 3 presets from the dx7 (vibe - marimba - e.piano) with one of them on a lower key. A bit of chorus, reverb and Eq and that’s all :) The rest is a massive use of the Synclavier (100% homemade patches) About the interview, since i’m a huge fan of ARP’S synthetizers, it was a very good moment !

[@Darrin.Crawford]

@@MathGsr Thanks for your help...much appreciated

[@pandosquaremusic8408]

@dukerbud 88 I was going to ask the same. Is a topic touched in some related forums. An extract of what Tony had said in an interview: "On 'Tonight, Tonight, Tonight' it's all a MIDI thing with a marimba all the way through...". @Math Gsr had nailed it again, not only on that issue but the entire performance. Superb, again!!

[@MathGsr]

@@pandosquaremusic8408 I never seen this interview :o if you have a link.. But I knew that tony used marimba and other presets combined with midi because it was said by tony on a old magazine I have read, maybe coming from this interview.

[@thebod1]

@@MathGsr You need to do a tutorial on how you made it, because I can't even get close. Sounds great Mat!

[@luvjammin04]

Great job. Any idea what effects I can use to alter my marimba factory sound on my Nord Stage 3 to get that glass bottle effect during the verses & chorus parts?

[@bierologeprof.prosten7792]

Nice one! Can you do Burning Rope ?

[@MathGsr]

Thanks mate ! Well I could but i’m currently doing the invisible touch tour, so it doesn’t fit.. Maybe later, way later :)

[@Skeletman0815]

Where did you have the jacket from😏🙃

[@MathGsr]

Long ago on a french vintage store ! couldn't believe it when I saw it

[@bigbanks8823]

Play the in the cage's medley

[@MathGsr]

I did turn it on again medley instead. There is already a very good cover of the in the cage medley on KZbin ;)

[@keepsynthin3223]

Amazing job! How did you program the DX7? I’ve heard it’s the marimba patch on the original ROM1 presets but it doesn’t sound right when I do it. Also do you know how they did the pad sounds in 1987? I know they used a Taurus but how are they getting chords out of it? Thanks!

[@MathGsr]

It is the marimba, combined with other marimba like presets. I've done this long ago so I can't remember, but it was a crazy midi thing. The pad sound Comes from a pedal for sure, but not sure about a Taurus

[@sidneiribeiro3883]

Does this main keyboard have a cricket sound 🤔

[@MathGsr]

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[@MusicLife-lp6ph]

awesome man! what keys are the patches in exactly? the notes dont seem to match up right.

[@MusicLife-lp6ph]

let me rephrase. during the main part with the vibes, there are two different tones being played. then when you go to the chorus, they match in unison, but the bass is still up a minor 3rd. could you share the transposition for the dx7 patches you combined?

[@MathGsr]

@@MusicLife-lp6ph Well that's a very interesting comment ! As I said there is 3 patches combined on the DX7 and they are at different keys. I dont really understand what is exactly your question, but here is the keys : G for the highest sound which is the vibe + E.piano A# for the marimba (the lower one). I hope it will answer your question !

[@MusicLife-lp6ph]

@@MathGsr could you share how many half steps you transposed each patch?

[@MathGsr]

+4 for vibe + e.piano -1,5 for the marimba

[@MusicLife-lp6ph]

@@MathGsr +4 half steps, and -1 octave 5 half steps?

[@martinvoicesynthmusic1732]

Salut Math. Je ré-écoutais ton excellent cover et c'est la première fois que je remarque que je ne joue pas les mêmes notes de marimba que toi au début. Moi je fais FA-RE-FA...alors que toi tu fais DO-SOL#-DO...Alors je suis retourné au concert de 87 et Tony semble aussi faire des DO-SOL#-DO. J'ai ensuite constaté que ces DO-SOL#-DO sonnaient en fait comme des FA-RE-FA. Donc Tony et toi vous avez transposé. Je me demandais par curiosité si tu savais pourquoi Tony avait fait ça ? Merci !!!

[@MathGsr]

Salut Martin ! Alors sache que la semaine dernière j'ai ré enregistré le morceau de À à Z, car j'ai très mal joué dans cette vidéo. Le marimba est 'normalement accompagné du Prophet qui joue les fameuse "nappes", j'ai réussi à mettre la main sur ce son. Aussi le son de l' Emu 2+ dans cette vidéo n'était pas spot on. Je vais essayer de ré enregistrer en vidéo ce morceau et quelques autres cette année ! Sinon pour te répondre, effectivement le son est transposé, en fait c'est une contrainte du fait que le sample en lui même est composé de 3 patch du Dx7 en midi. Et ces 3 patchs ne sont pas sur la même Key, si tu écoutes bien tu arrives à percevoir les 3 tonalités qui composent le sample. En fait dans le Dx7 quand tout le "bordel" midi est terminé on se retrouve avec un sample transposé

[@martinvoicesynthmusic1732]

Merci pour ton retour ! J'ai l'impression d'entendre 2 sons : un grave qui fait plus marimba et un aigu du style "souffler dans une bouteille". J'imaginais qu'il y avait tout simplement un octave d'écart entre les deux mais si je comprends ce que tu dis c'est pas tout à fait ça. Est-ce qu'un des samples fait vraiment des DO-SOl#-DO ? Je n'ai pas vraiment d'aptitude ou très peu en sound design alors moi tes sons je les trouve déjà super !!! Mais bon je vais surveiller avec attention la sortie de ta prochaine version et tes futurs videos. À date, je crois que tu n'as pas touché à We Can't Dance ? Tu m'as déjà dit que tu reproduisais aussi les versions studios. Ça serait le fun d'avoir des videos de ça. Bonne continuité ! Bonne Année 2024 !

[@MathGsr]

@@martinvoicesynthmusic1732 c'est tout à fait ça, le sample marimba passe par un appareil appelé soundgoodizer et derrière un EQ vient amplifié les aigus pour donner cet effet de sifflement ! J'ai fait plein plein d'enregistrement de We cant dance, un complet de Fading lights, No son of mine et Une partie de dreaming while you sleep. Si tu veux je peux t'envoyer par email quelques enregistrements en clavier isolé, en attendant de les faire en vidéo :)

[@martinvoicesynthmusic1732]

@@MathGsr C'est pas évident de recréer ces sons. Même si on trouve quelque part sur internet quel instrument Tony a utilisé et même quel preset il a utilisé il reste encore à trouver les bons effets !!! Cette marimba en est un belle exemple ! Je m'amuse présentement avec Fading Lights. C'est clair que la drum machine c'est la 808 et je trouve ma version pas si mal mais mon snare est vraiment pas aussi bon. Je crois que c'est parce que j'ai pas trouvé le bon reverb. Aussi, j'ai hésité à savoir si le 2e coup moins fort de certaines percussions c'était un effet de delay ou si c'était l'option de temps fort vs faible du 808. !?!?!?! Pas toujours facile mais c'est ben le fun !

[@martinvoicesynthmusic1732]

Salut Math. Je t'ai écrit hier un commentaire dans lequel je te laissais mon adresse email mais il a disparu aujourd'hui. Tu me diras si toi tu le vois toujours. En tout cas je te disais que je suis preneur si tu veux m'envoyer tes enregistrements. Quelqu'un qui voulait m'envoyer son adresse email m'a déjà raconter que son commentaire avait disparu aussi. C'est peut-être You Tube qui enlève ce genre d'info plus privée.@@MathGsr

[@MatheusTeles]

i believe that is the hardest music by Genesis to play on the keyboards

[@MathGsr]

You’re almost 100% right

[@hpatss4966]

Mad man moon ..

[@MathGsr]

@@hpatss4966 I don’t think so.. Maybe the whole supper’s ready, maybe the solo from cinema show, but Tonight is so long and so technical, it makes me think about the end of Hogweed on the pianet

[@hpatss4966]

@@MathGsr eh suppers is definitely difficult but it’s very easy to understand, cinema show just needs to be able to remember which parts go where, but last time I listened to mad man moon I was like, I get why they never played this live lol

[@MathGsr]

@@hpatss4966 hahaha you are right :D But they never played live A trick of the tail which is a very ease piano song so idk.. tony would have been able to play mad man moon for sure

[@hpatss4966]

Is that his jacket from 87?

[@MathGsr]

Well seen ! It is :)

[@KilroyWasHere83]

Wow, that keyboard sound in the beginning by itself is actually kind of grating.

[@n8goulet]

Were the string sounds sequenced? You don't have a free hand to play them, and it seems Tony Bank's didn't either. This song does sound larger than life at times, but I was unaware he might be using "tracks" in the background. Tony generally doesn't seem like the kind of person that would allow the use of something in the background he couldn't actually play live.

[@MathGsr]

Which sounds are you talking about? Can you put a Time code please? Every sounds you ear are live played since I record directly from the table

[@MathGsr]

Or do you mean the strings played during the « beep boop » parts? Then it’s played by Daryl with his pedals :)

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

@@MathGsr Wow, I never knew that. So Mike must have done it on the studio album then. I assumed it was Tony with his synths.

[@MathGsr]

@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 If you watch carefully the Wembley show you can see it :). For the studio version I don’t know. I also thought it was tony. Anyway, genesis never used a backing track (excepted the drum machine which can be seen as a backing Track) until 1992 , 1999 (calling all stations tour) or 2007. So every sounds from wembley show are played by one of the five genius ^^

[@axelanas9537]

@@MathGsr in 2007, Tony does it.