GenG Coach LEAKED T1 Strats?

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@nodestar6245
@nodestar6245 25 күн бұрын
Wait until they find out that there are riot approved streamers doing live full "analysis" of every single game. The horror
@kralbenji
@kralbenji 25 күн бұрын
Yeah and they aren't just small streamers, Caedrel gets over 200k, others are saying around 300k, Dom has been around 15-25k. Not to mention the thousands of others watching other streamers lmaoo. Edit: viewer amount for Caedrel, I had no idea he was around 300k, I only saw him around 150k. Thanks for letting me know you guys
@DarkorbitForever12
@DarkorbitForever12 25 күн бұрын
@@kralbenji pretty sure Caedrel hit 300k+ this worlds even
@Farenaa
@Farenaa 25 күн бұрын
@@DarkorbitForever12 he was
@wilwong23
@wilwong23 25 күн бұрын
@@kralbenji you sure? during worlds its like 300k ish
@uhis1686
@uhis1686 25 күн бұрын
wait until they find out BLG has a literal team of analysts to also do it lmao
@Lolsashalol
@Lolsashalol 25 күн бұрын
As if BLG coaching staff and analysts aren't capable of their own analysis
@thaib2724
@thaib2724 25 күн бұрын
duh obviously riot banned them from watching semis and they for sure wasn't watching it live and elk for sure wasn't sleepy during those games
@jiacer7393
@jiacer7393 25 күн бұрын
The problems comes with your org being Geng and that the last video you made is from Geng but is private, it doesn´t matter but that´s how they see it
@andreitaker3527
@andreitaker3527 24 күн бұрын
I don't get the outrage. They could just treat him as being so salty on the lost that he released information that any other know( except TES)
@matitello4167
@matitello4167 24 күн бұрын
​@@andreitaker3527no one is salty because he did an analysis, blg probably has an even better anslysis against t1, people are mad because of the intention of the post, the timing and language makes it seem like it was with a malicious intent, and if it were any other team thats fine, it is normal to be mad against the team that knock you off, but the problem is that gen g is a korean team, and they have this great patriotism thing, so if you lose, you would want to cheer for the other korean teams to win, and not do anything that could remotely be harmful to them
@MrDespisedIcon
@MrDespisedIcon 20 күн бұрын
Well given the results of the finals, it seems they aren’t!
@arkaina-ps7pd
@arkaina-ps7pd 25 күн бұрын
The game was played on stage everyone can see what are we talking about. Do they think that if no one else breaks it down blg wont?
@leafyreturns9805
@leafyreturns9805 25 күн бұрын
Hardcore T1 fans are unable to critically think, so any analysis being done is like crazy to them
@skrattaoppar9753
@skrattaoppar9753 25 күн бұрын
Other than scrims, breakdown analysis from outside source is frowned upon. Basically BLG or T1 needs to break it down themselves. This is why every post match they are talking in between themselves, they can't have outside input like if Caedrel analyzed what happened on Game 1 and then he called Tom to do this and that. no matter how good or bad the input is that's just not allowed.
@fishychippy69
@fishychippy69 25 күн бұрын
True, but posting right after they lost is what rubbed people the wrong way, imo its fine for geng to post analysis of the games they just lost, but maybe wait out a little bit b4 u post it yk? It makes it seems like they r a salty loser and trying to help blg by exposing t1's strat, either way i doubt it will have a massive impact on the finals result, cause like most ppl is saying, blg can easily analyse the games anyways without geng doing it for them, looking forward to a great series between t1 and blg :)
@EX9x9
@EX9x9 25 күн бұрын
@@skrattaoppar9753 what is bro blabbing about. there have been plenty of times where Caedrel or Dom included have done more detailed breakdowns of what happens during a match (ie: lane swaps, invades, baron fights or side lanes). This also happened after semis concluded not after a single match during the series.
@skrattaoppar9753
@skrattaoppar9753 25 күн бұрын
@@EX9x9 yes it's been done since forever. But are you really gonna blame the fans? They are being wary especially since T1 are victims of DDoS. I'm actually surprised it took the ultras semifinals to actually be mad by someone analyzing T1 matches. Guess no one wants to compromise a Finals match.
@Emperor_of_Sands
@Emperor_of_Sands 25 күн бұрын
This is so fucking hilarious but so fucking sad. Mfs act like BLG isn’t going to spend this ENTIRE WEEK doing this very thing.
@billyjoe8185
@billyjoe8185 25 күн бұрын
what are the analysts and coaches getting paid for on BLG 💀
@matitello4167
@matitello4167 24 күн бұрын
The coach making the analysis isnt the problem, the problem is that it is a korean team doing something with a malicious intent to another korean team, and in korea the have a lot of patriotism so that is obviously gonna get criticized
@sonjaeju9748
@sonjaeju9748 24 күн бұрын
@@matitello4167 Just curious, what is your evidence of the malicious intent? In addition to this, can you explain how this does anything that BLG analysis won't?
@Spicynuggzz
@Spicynuggzz 24 күн бұрын
@@sonjaeju9748Koreans don’t fuck other Koreans… it would’ve been ok if geng coach did analysis to LPL. It just goes to show geng doesn’t want t1 or LCK to win…
@MrDarraghOBrien
@MrDarraghOBrien 23 күн бұрын
What malicious intent? Is Caedrel doing an analysis malicious? Its just bcos he is from GenG? Try be more smart​@@matitello4167
@yihadistxdl951
@yihadistxdl951 25 күн бұрын
Wait until they find out that the best team in china has their own coaching staff most likely better than an amateur coach from geng academy
@Meander_
@Meander_ 25 күн бұрын
Ultras will be ultras. Disguisting in every single sport
@twood2032
@twood2032 25 күн бұрын
If the T1 fan thinks this is a problem, what's stopping them from making an analysis video on BLG games? Don't see how this is a problem.
@Robo-bm4cv
@Robo-bm4cv 25 күн бұрын
T1 fans dont have the collected IQ to make an analysis on BLG
@channie3473
@channie3473 25 күн бұрын
Cause T1 fans collective IQ doesn't go past double digits
@choadao2912
@choadao2912 25 күн бұрын
They are mad because of the timing and how the guy worded the post, it coming from a coach of a team they recently beat and sarcastically saying that he hopes "LCK" wins is the topping, it's fully translated in some websites so why not read it don't let doms bias lead you to the same conclusion buddy
@mithilcherkadi9990
@mithilcherkadi9990 25 күн бұрын
@@choadao2912that’s still fucking stupid
@jenexo97
@jenexo97 25 күн бұрын
​@@choadao2912 He said he wants LCK to win because their pride in being an LCK team is big. If you see losers interviews of LCK players eliminated they say they want an LCK team to take the trophy home. If teams lose they cheer for their region teams to win. Rather than being a sore loser and thinking that since they lost the other teams from their region should lose too. Plus if I'm not mistaken the teams of the region that wins get profit from the sales of world skins as well.
@luryassi9
@luryassi9 25 күн бұрын
at least t1 fans got theri excuse now for losing worlds "oh blg are not good our strats got leaked"
@chomosuke0720
@chomosuke0720 25 күн бұрын
This is the kind of "I don't hate T1 I hate the fans" persona Dom claims he has. Jumping ship from their kryptonite GenG to the LPL who they've been stomping for a decade at Worlds is nasty work
@odrater6698
@odrater6698 25 күн бұрын
​@@chomosuke0720dom wanted geng to lose cuz he thought Blg t1 was more hype
@KeKehee
@KeKehee 25 күн бұрын
Did you say the similar thing last year?
@AyakaAkira31
@AyakaAkira31 25 күн бұрын
As if they would lose
@ft6171
@ft6171 25 күн бұрын
@@chomosuke0720 If you can't see after all the BS that T1 has the MOST toxic fanbase by far. You are truly mentally and physically ill. Go outside little bro
@hotterthanfire7436
@hotterthanfire7436 25 күн бұрын
If T1 lose finals. The T1 fans will literally blame it all on this random coach and say he is the reason they lost finals.
@ZyrexShorts129
@ZyrexShorts129 25 күн бұрын
bruh no. not every t1 fan is like that I'll accept the result win or lose besides Bin deserves to win worlds.
@omedog9480
@omedog9480 25 күн бұрын
"The T1 fans" adam bob charles and devin will, but eric faust gregory and hannah won't
@skillzsquar3dgaming
@skillzsquar3dgaming 25 күн бұрын
They arent losing finals, it's a cope to say anything less
@Roofi64
@Roofi64 24 күн бұрын
And if they win, they will completely forget that it ever happened lol
@rowdyrocker27
@rowdyrocker27 24 күн бұрын
@@ZyrexShorts129unfortunately, you dont represent the majority.. we talkin about the t1 fans who has this kpop fan esque mentality.. the type to not watch the games and just waits on results but always got something to say..
@Kyreiki
@Kyreiki 24 күн бұрын
I think the issue was overblown due to 2 reasons. 1- the coach often told in his other analysis that he is a geng coach. But only in this 1 thread he decided to specify its his own analysis and isnt related to geng ( understandable as some people can find that sus. but its like the psyc. reverse psyc. argument ). and the bigger reason 2- He had earlier also released an analysis for geng. But quickly privated the analysis because geng still had some matches in the league. This is what leaves the sour taste in mouth. Just the double standard. Privating geng analysis because they have some matches left, but releasing/keeping the analysis of the team they lost to even though they have a final left. Other than that, yes. The topic is definitely blown out of proportion.
@Pyrrha_Nikos
@Pyrrha_Nikos 24 күн бұрын
So, basically, if BLG wins finals, it counts as a GenG win, which means we can say Chovy won Worlds, right?
@evanfauntleroy5263
@evanfauntleroy5263 25 күн бұрын
It's a pretty straight forward concept but less familiar in recent history of the United States. Korea is known for showing a sense of "national pride" in a very strict and personal way. If people recall Worlds 2023 was in Korea, it mattered less which team made it to the finals, but rather that a Korean team was winning while in Korea. What appears to be happening here is a sense of betrayal by a coach "giving away" too much information about a Korean team's play style. It has less to do with the ability for any random person to look at a vod and analyze it for themselves. Yes, anyone can literally do that.🤷🏿‍♂️
@claasmachens3858
@claasmachens3858 25 күн бұрын
When I heard of this, I though something actuallly bad had happened, like an analysis of T1-Gen G scrims or something. Not this...
@uhis1686
@uhis1686 25 күн бұрын
lol anyone can do an anaylsis video/post of these worlds series, but THIS particular guy doing it is SO offensive? T1 fans are truly crazy
@websiteowns
@websiteowns 25 күн бұрын
T1 fans thinking BLG does not have an analyst team LUL
@paimonisfood4986
@paimonisfood4986 25 күн бұрын
It's not the analysis itself but the way it was worded out and the identity of who "leaked" it that was the issue.
@eLISikcz
@eLISikcz 25 күн бұрын
​@paimonisfood4986 they are mad that t1 is winning and same with dom.. so they have to heal their wounds on things like these ... they won't listen or think twice to do it. Just listen to Dom how angry he sounds and enjoy it.
@paimonisfood4986
@paimonisfood4986 25 күн бұрын
@@eLISikcz Yeah GEN-G just lost to T1 and one of their people released a breakdown of how T1 works and no one thought this would rub people the wrong way? Apparently the text too had a bit of a sarcastic tone which may portray GEN-G as being salty that they lost. They shouldn't have done it in the first place.
@offthegrid777
@offthegrid777 24 күн бұрын
The motive of this GenG academy Coach for posting this analysis is put under scrutiny by the T1 fans because he is doing it to further his career and may be done in questionable good faith? Also, he is an adult who fully knows what he was doing, knowing full well it may or may not be fully received in good faith by league community including T1 fans. He gets what is coming because he posted his own opinions , grow up and be responsible for the outcome and unintended results of your actions.
@reko5521
@reko5521 25 күн бұрын
For some context, the popular sentiment on korean forums is that the content itself is derived from public knowledge, and it is assumed the BLG have competent enough analysts to understand these concepts themselves without needing the knowledge of a tier 3 korean coach. The outrage, however, is based on the timing, language, and tone of the post, being well before the grand finals against a rival region (with ample time to implement this information, newfound or not), and the wording of the last few sentences has an ironic/tongue-in-cheek tone (the part referring to wanting LCK to win), coming off as a salty dig at T1 since they had just lost to them. Whether or not the information provided is useful at all isn't relevant, it's more so the intent and language behind this post. At it's core, the analytical information is based on T1's plans on countering the 6 ward strategy by being more reserved in the use of their own wards and sweepers, there is no gain for LCK/T1 by explicitly pointing that out, yet at the end the author says "he wants LCK to win", which really rubbed fans the wrong way.
@ezcube8045
@ezcube8045 25 күн бұрын
same thoughts aswell, analyzing it isnt the problem. the problem is the timing and the organization he is part of. you cant take away that people might think that they are just being salty but who knows whats the truth he could have just waited until the finals is over and im sure that wont be an issue
@anon_148
@anon_148 25 күн бұрын
the fans are just extremely mentally ill.
@Masterthai777
@Masterthai777 25 күн бұрын
Everything to farm clicks and engagement with the anti-T1 crowd.
@pinkserenade
@pinkserenade 25 күн бұрын
How is the tone of the post/wording bad?? Watch the video, he was literally praising t1. I swear t1 fans are the most pathetic parasocial losers
@kerkertrandov459
@kerkertrandov459 25 күн бұрын
He should have done wbg vs blg analysis too
@DanielRodriguez-v1i
@DanielRodriguez-v1i 25 күн бұрын
So is just analysis, not “leaked T1 Strats.” Why clickbait?
@numeritos1799
@numeritos1799 25 күн бұрын
Welcome to KZbin. When you see a title asking a question like "DID MY HOUSE BURN INTO ASHES??" the answer is always no.
@Jonah_Chd
@Jonah_Chd 25 күн бұрын
Really cringe title to be honest..
@jessejohn7406
@jessejohn7406 25 күн бұрын
Ah yes Iove when persons don't know the reason of the fabled "question mark" the title is a question not a statement🙄🤦🏾‍♂️
@nickmajora
@nickmajora 23 күн бұрын
Especially since Dom basically says the analysis is worthless.
@fklmrek437
@fklmrek437 20 күн бұрын
the point of the title is that its what t1 fans think the coach did, not very hard to see
@m.c4161
@m.c4161 25 күн бұрын
If the fans think what GenG Academy coach doing is bad for T1 strat going in to the Finals Imagine what kind of FUCKED UP things BLG coaches is doing now lmao. It's their job to review and figure out the opposite team, if the Academy coach can see it then so are the BLG coaches. Brainless takes from the fans tbh. I'm not anti T1 or anything because I myself also a T1 fan.
@Chasi830
@Chasi830 25 күн бұрын
to ensure competitive integrity T1 fans should reach out to Weibo’s tier 3 coach and ask them to analyse the semi finals vs BLG!
@Darkness_Enjoyer
@Darkness_Enjoyer 25 күн бұрын
I am sure with the meta read WBG had against BLG in the semis, it definitely would not benefit them, 🤣
@vincenth2890
@vincenth2890 25 күн бұрын
yea.. and also not defending them ultras but, free analysis is free, doing analysis takes time, reviewing vods, FoW n all tht stuff, if 1 mercenary analyst/coach does the job for them its free capital, the whole problem for the ultras is just because the one who does this is geng affiliated coach i guess which is also from Korea ? anyone can do the same analysis for blg's semis match but theres none ig ? taking the effort & time to make the article is what makes them mad as a Korean no ? either way does BLG coaches have the time to search other analyst or coach on T1 geng match analysis ? i dont think so ? this is not even a full analysis of the 4 game series tho
@ivenqin3683
@ivenqin3683 25 күн бұрын
Ur missing the point, its not about the analysis its about being a geng coach or lck coach and doing this. The analysis has no value but what the coach did was at the least impolite and at most disgusting. Its common sense to support teams in ur regions when against other regions. You shouldn’t be leaking any info about lck teams even if its known by everyone. Its like you shouldn’t be openly tell strangers about the bad things your friends have done despite anyone knowing about it.
@AlexisNess-mn4zw
@AlexisNess-mn4zw 25 күн бұрын
@@ivenqin3683 Its not leaking info if it happens on fucking stage. Get a grip calling it the most disgusting LMAOFA
@bellor123
@bellor123 25 күн бұрын
They are basically losing their minds because its a fellow korean making a breakdown of T1 before the finals. They wouldnt care if finals had happened, but T1 superfans are nuts so this is expected lol.
@matitello4167
@matitello4167 24 күн бұрын
No, blg can do exactly this and maybe an even more accurate breakdown of t1, people are mad because of the intention and language of the post, it is clear that it is kinda malicious, and in korea they have this great patriotism so doing this to a team of your same country would be seen as something bad.
@Hyldassims
@Hyldassims 24 күн бұрын
No such thing as fellow korean
@Hyldassims
@Hyldassims 24 күн бұрын
Its team against team, GenG has zero obligation to T1
@Hyldassims
@Hyldassims 24 күн бұрын
In the exact same way any lpl team ie Blg has zero obligation to T1
@Slashresto
@Slashresto 25 күн бұрын
Aslong as it doesn't have non publicly avaible information that others don't have privy to (like voice coms or stuff) i don't see an issue and i support T1.
@matteoalberghini3816
@matteoalberghini3816 24 күн бұрын
"I support T1" 😴
@Slashresto
@Slashresto 24 күн бұрын
@ nothing wrong with that, as long as u can understand they aren’t some superteam this year but a extremely improved team at worlds.
@mateuszpawelec9830
@mateuszpawelec9830 19 күн бұрын
It was close guys
@chriswoolard7962
@chriswoolard7962 25 күн бұрын
This is like when people got mad about the dude from michigan stealing signs in football. Its public knowledge that everyone has access too.
@pleasenobotsjd1744
@pleasenobotsjd1744 24 күн бұрын
That’s different. Bro was literally on the sidelines dressed as an assistant coach with a hidden camera on. People would be way more pissed since it would essentially be a blg coach sitting in the t1s coach room during the geng game. Not saying it would’ve changed any outcome but there is a big difference
@oneeyejack3043
@oneeyejack3043 20 күн бұрын
I can't believe T1 managed to win even tho their strats got leaked, what a team
@nicodepaulis2924
@nicodepaulis2924 25 күн бұрын
I like to think the T1 fans are trolling to gaslight myself into thinking that there aren't that many dumbasses in the league scene
@rando4998
@rando4998 25 күн бұрын
I think they are all part of a psyop
@vincenth2890
@vincenth2890 25 күн бұрын
The GenG T3 coach probably just really likes LoL and is genuinely impressed at how T1 capitalize on vision ward n some aspect of the game no ? if not then he does this for coaching career LOL and nothings wrong with that
@bitze865
@bitze865 25 күн бұрын
i dont get it, do they think that BLG dont have their own coaching staff analysing the game?
@andreitaker3527
@andreitaker3527 24 күн бұрын
Instead being outrage, they could just clown him for releasing information that other teams could easily get and call the move made by as being salty.
@ProbiesPrison
@ProbiesPrison 24 күн бұрын
I think what it comes down to is how teams post videos and dont show the bad stuff in their games but then they turn around and post full breakdown of the team that beat them for everyone. Its more than just the breakdown
@mrmcawesome9746
@mrmcawesome9746 25 күн бұрын
What's crazy to me about this is that it's not even just T1 ultra-fans at this point, literally Caedrel's subreddit is full of people who are convinced that a GenG coach shouldn't be allowed to post an analysis of T1 games because... they're from the same region? Because optics? Because they should be rooting for T1? Idfk, but just from the upvotes/downvotes I've seen it is the popular sentiment over there.
@tram-sk9ly
@tram-sk9ly 25 күн бұрын
i mean caedrels subreddit is pretty much known to be a t1 fan subreddit in disguise lmao
@numeritos1799
@numeritos1799 25 күн бұрын
Caedrel subreddit might be ran by T1 ultras though. I've had posts removed just because of painting a not so positive image of T1 as a team and as an organization. No official rule of the subreddit was infringed. Not only that but if you criticize T1 in any way, you'll get downvoted into oblivion, so obviously his community loves T1 probably more than the average league enjoyer. Caedrel is very T1 biased himself, so I assume it comes from that.
@Niick3015
@Niick3015 24 күн бұрын
@@numeritos1799 TBF most league subreddits will be T1 biased since they are the most popular team in the world and likely at least top 2 in the west with G2. You really can't avoid them if you use any social media. I have tried.
@Play_time7
@Play_time7 23 күн бұрын
@@Niick3015 for sure but on caedrel's sub its actually getting insane, I've heard caedrel say that people from the official t1 reddit reached out about his reddit getting out of control, imagine that. I'd even suggest dom to react to it after t1 losses etc for some good content.
@roxanaadelina3570
@roxanaadelina3570 25 күн бұрын
No one actually thinks he leaked the ""secrets"" of T1. Fans are upset because it feels petty to come and analyze the match after his team lost. The first analysis he did was for FLY, but he quickly set it to private. Korean fans are saying he edited his post, as it initially came off as bitter, while Chinese fans on Hupu are discussing how disrespectful this is to both teams
@suunnz
@suunnz 25 күн бұрын
T1 fans making a scapegoat just in case they lose 🫵🏻😹
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 25 күн бұрын
I guess nobody is allow to watch VOD of T1 games without T1 Fans thinking is unfair LMAO
@trysephiroth007
@trysephiroth007 25 күн бұрын
I kind of see it as if G2 and Fnatic played in worlds semis, and a coach from the losing team posted something like this before worlds finals, that coach would have to leave Europe.
@obryzii
@obryzii 24 күн бұрын
LMAO you're not wrong tho
@xSeanthien
@xSeanthien 24 күн бұрын
I think it becomes a big deal because people only read headlines and summaries without seeing if it's factual or not, and some people are just not good enough at the game to understand the points, and then it goes back to point 1.
@RumandCocaine
@RumandCocaine 25 күн бұрын
Here comes the cavalry
@choadao2912
@choadao2912 25 күн бұрын
Whats funny is that most of the people in kr forums are mad at who posted it and the timing, they are not mad about the post itself, it just leaves a bad taste in the mouth considering this is coming from someone in the LCK you would think they would have a bit of sportsmanship or camaraderie since they are both from the same region, its not about what was posted at all
@obryzii
@obryzii 24 күн бұрын
that's true, it's a big no-no in a cultural space bc of collectivism mindset. esp since the tone was not appreciative but negative towards them. it was snarky and every comment felt like a dig. i think if tone/timing was diff no one would rlly care tbh
@xxivkraegen2124
@xxivkraegen2124 24 күн бұрын
Yeah T1 haters just dogpiles on everyone without context. Its literally just a weird behaviour from someone representing an org like gen.g
@ghostrider-od6ls
@ghostrider-od6ls 24 күн бұрын
Doesnt matter who or when its just a post analysist..u skt fans really have 0 iq
@gibaogibaogibao
@gibaogibaogibao 25 күн бұрын
Dom starts to reason and end up screaming I love it
@chiddiru6114
@chiddiru6114 25 күн бұрын
Only way any analytical content could be bad is if scrim info was leaked for things like pick/ ban... Analytical content post game refering to the public games is completely fine...
@jakelol9392
@jakelol9392 24 күн бұрын
No matter what the analysis they do, nothing changes on their skill level, and at the moment decision choices.
@farcydebop
@farcydebop 25 күн бұрын
I am afraid I didn't understand how he's calling the bush on the left facing drake pit. If he could repeat his explanation, it would really help to catch it.
@robinandersson99
@robinandersson99 23 күн бұрын
the "really evil" guy seems like he was just trolling tho tbh
@obryzii
@obryzii 24 күн бұрын
honestly, also kinda feels like a side-eye from the t3 coach to the main roster coaches
@tsdrum2016
@tsdrum2016 24 күн бұрын
Its really weird that there are people out there that think BLG cant possibly break down the T1/GenG series with their own TEAM of people specifically hired to do just this kind of thing.
@Exo-riah
@Exo-riah 24 күн бұрын
I've been a T1 fan, or SKT fan for many many years. Long before I was really aware of the general online community. Being a fan of this team was so peaceful before I realised how deranged the fans can be
@xavier.mauricio
@xavier.mauricio 24 күн бұрын
There is always a bunch of people who care about very little other than international results and *maybe* international performance. Deft used to get labeled a choker by tons of people, Dom included, because he was great domestically and wasn't getting it done in Worlds. The Chovy discourse is very similar. This is the third Worlds in a row he enters as an undisputed top3 player in the tournament, this year being most people's number 1 (which I agreed with, to be clear), and this is the third Worlds he leaves early with very unremarkable play outside of lane. Chovy is never *the reason* why his teams lose (and, to be fair, there is often someone like Doran or Lehends melting around him), but he often feels like a spectator to his own losses. This year's Worlds, last year's, the year before against DRX (he had a great series against DK), whenever his back is up against the wall, most often he puts out a solid, unremarkable C+ to C- game, they lose and we all talk "well it's not really Chovy's fault, he played fine". Yeah, but sometimes he just needs to do more than that. He needs to pull out the extra gear when stuff is going wrong. Faker's flash predict on Ruler last year, or Zeka and Kingen gapping Scout and Zeus at key moments in their 2022 run, are examples of players playing their best when it mattered most. Chovy's best is as good as anybody's, maybe even better. It's the main reason GenG is a great team. But his best isn't coming out too often in these series. I don't think he's a choker or anything. It's a team game, it's a complex game, sometimes you lose because of a bunch of small things and it's not the fault of one particular player. But as long as he doesn't win Worlds, or at least goes down with a more impressive fight, this reputation will follow him. It is what it is.
@kylejsanchez1612
@kylejsanchez1612 25 күн бұрын
7:18 he said very proudly so have said it multiple time lol
@streakybacon7164
@streakybacon7164 24 күн бұрын
I think this is a problem with the translation like many other times because the current reason for the drama is not because they made an analysis on T1 it is the fact that an academy coach form the team that just lost semis is sharing this info before finals and fans are negative about the intent of the analysis not the analysis it self. not trying to defend the T1 fans just clarifying.
@connornguyen4336
@connornguyen4336 24 күн бұрын
One day Dom will realize the "average T1 fan" Isn't even posting to Twitter or Reddit, and isn't thinking about anything as much as he is. Until then, he can keep generalizing all of us T1 fans and getting angry at a loud minority while shortening his lifespan.
@0rionknight636
@0rionknight636 25 күн бұрын
"Vision is good until it isn't" Seoul will fall again if NK has lolreddit
@sheeshaled
@sheeshaled 23 күн бұрын
they can't even cope at the fact that oner is inconsistent
@Christian-en1hk
@Christian-en1hk 24 күн бұрын
Because most of the T1 Fans are Stan Fans. Treating them like Idol without really knowing about the game. I'm a T1 Fan and I hate those stan fans
@corinthiansateofim3338
@corinthiansateofim3338 22 күн бұрын
It's funny, for someone who hates T1 fans so much, you practically live off T1 content
@InternetOfStories
@InternetOfStories 25 күн бұрын
I think it’s because they believe Gen G knows T1s play style and or certain behaviors that other teams may not have the time to deduce. Gen G probably has the best knowledge on T1 besides T1 themselves
@klssmeforever
@klssmeforever 25 күн бұрын
even if it's true, this coach cookie guy is a geng academy coach, he isn't involved with the main team, he coaches 14-15 year old kids in tier 3 league
@InternetOfStories
@InternetOfStories 25 күн бұрын
That’s a 14-15 year old kid work?! God bless he’s gonna be a good coach…
@klssmeforever
@klssmeforever 25 күн бұрын
@@InternetOfStories no-no, he is a coach to these kids, the kids in geng academy who are around 14-15 years old. his own age is unknown.
@AlexisNess-mn4zw
@AlexisNess-mn4zw 25 күн бұрын
But he only talked about the game and t1 in general?He didnt leak screams nor is he coaching the main team
@qGods
@qGods 24 күн бұрын
@@klssmeforever still the same org? Geng academy probably also analyses Geng and T1 games more than any other organization. Publicly posting this information helps literally noone. It just looks, and feels like a backhanded slap after a loss they couldnt cope with
@bhabatoshpatra6219
@bhabatoshpatra6219 22 күн бұрын
T1 thinks even their solo queue strats get stolen , like other teams just play against LLA only.
@SoftCSoftC
@SoftCSoftC 25 күн бұрын
We owe You an apology Boss You were right
@NewUser000NewUser
@NewUser000NewUser 25 күн бұрын
Dom getting mad at T1 fans will always be my favorite content
@billyjoe8185
@billyjoe8185 25 күн бұрын
NA and EU generational rants are also good
@elCorciu
@elCorciu 25 күн бұрын
I love the top tier commentary and analysis by Dom: today I learned what the "Dick Bush" is.
@radenkovic2856
@radenkovic2856 25 күн бұрын
Those guys, WHAT ARE WE SAYING?
@drocka36
@drocka36 24 күн бұрын
Imagine a professional sports team reviewing game film. How embarassing would that be amirite?
@gurigureen
@gurigureen 24 күн бұрын
And I can easily say that it is easily the fangirls who are T1 only, worlds only, and kpop only who doesn't play the game, bad at the game, no knowledge about the game who would complain that THESE knowledge that are already proven true, preexisting, and are collectively agreed and practiced by professionals to be some sort of illegal when there is literally an analysis done by the broadcast after every game. And when caedrel and dom's and other streamers do a vod review to their community which are safe to assume to be male dominated, nobody called them out. Even if they hold less "authority" vs the coaches, it is still an analysis under their own understanding of the game. Now I actually understand why dom doesn't like associating with t1, actually ill fangirls.
@omedog9480
@omedog9480 25 күн бұрын
It matters who does the analysis. Imagine we're in an age of strong gaming AI (imagine AlphaZero, ...) who can also verbalize its insight. It certainly wouldn't be impartial if such an AI leaked its insights before the finals That is not to say the GenG coach equals the AI in power / analytical talent, it's just to highlight a principle. But to be fair the modern world has much bigger problems when it comes to principles so :shrug:
@Solestian
@Solestian 25 күн бұрын
Wait until they hear about the actual official broadcast. Like RIOT IS ACTIVELY ANALYIZING T1 AND LEAKING HOW THEY WON. Just wait. When the world finals show starts, the desk will talk about 1 hour on how T1 can win. ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND UNFAIR!
@johnnyairplane2896
@johnnyairplane2896 25 күн бұрын
same people who were complaining about too much Linkin Park scenes in the Worlds music video. apparently they want more T1 screen time.. they're making a big issue out of a small thing.
@WickedSL
@WickedSL 25 күн бұрын
t1 fans illness
@jieldcroas
@jieldcroas 25 күн бұрын
To Be honest, a lot team wanted to have die hard fans, it may seem cringe or cancer, but because that kind fans T1 was become big, Lest be honest here T1 was good in recent years after ZOGK joining roster but before that T1 was so bad, for many years after 2017, but because died hard fans was that make T1 still here today, at that times become T1 fans was not that good because how bad T1 was, and T1 fans not be growing, but the loyal Fans still support T1. The prime example what happens when you don't have loyal fans was the NA, before Fly quest, NA fans was already giving up on team at NA that why LCS take massive hit over the years, and the viewers always down, because their own fans already giving up on them.
@Larssrage
@Larssrage 25 күн бұрын
This is why, as a T1 fan since 2013 summer, I do not interact with the T1 fanbase, ever.
@napnap35
@napnap35 24 күн бұрын
6:08 is when analysis comment is
@itachi60001
@itachi60001 25 күн бұрын
nah bro im with you on almost everything but what you said about rookie being a worse chovy is so wrong, they dont play anything alike and chovy is also not better than peak rookie, of course currently chovy is just better but they dont play anything alike.
@rank1frombottom
@rank1frombottom 25 күн бұрын
I always find it so odd that they believe their team is so solid that they are immune to criticism but they are afraid that their team would get blown over by some passing wind.
@daraxiong19
@daraxiong19 24 күн бұрын
I think the problem here is that it offers a different perspective that BLG might not have focused on or wasn't made a priority of in their own analysis. I'm not saying BLG isn't capable, but seeing that the only org that's able to consistently win against T1 is dropping an analysis might be like, "oh, is this the secret to their success? Should we apply this in our matches?" I don't know how many analysts are on a team, but saying one analyst is capable of observing the state of the game or player behaviors and patterns is a taxing job. We're a couple days away from the finals, and a "leaked " analysis could be the difference maker especially if T1 isn't preparing an alternative plan of action for the blg game.
@adamNZ2024
@adamNZ2024 24 күн бұрын
Having a strategical analysis of how your opponent plays is a huge advantage. Most people are probably upset with the fact that the information came from a GG coach. Revealing all the secrets from the team you just lost to, and then telling it to a another team, from another region. It can come across as an act of betrayal. It's likely that BLG will have their own coaches do this research for themselves, but we don't know if this further analysis helped them. If anyone has played any type of sport or game competition, information is severely underestimated. You can beat significantly better players and teams by just having better preparation. I was captain of a soccer team which lost 0-20 to a team, and by the end of the season we beat the best team 3-2. All I did was change the formation from 4-4-2 to 5-3-2/5-4-1.
@R1v9nKinah
@R1v9nKinah 24 күн бұрын
I think if it was T1 versing a Chinese team this wouldn’t happen lmao T1 v JDG series last year was obv they were gonna win. GenG mad cos they wanted a shot for a worlds title but failed so they’re doing everything they can to prevent T1 from going back2back🤣🤣🤣
@ZhangheChen
@ZhangheChen 25 күн бұрын
It is really a nothing burger, all the team does analysis after games. It just happens for "GENG coach" to "public publish" after playing against "T1" in a "Lost". Comon, get over it
@IkEisawesome7
@IkEisawesome7 24 күн бұрын
But it was fine when Dyrus leaked the lane swap
@aR0ttenBANANA
@aR0ttenBANANA 24 күн бұрын
And then people wonder why Dom hates T1 fans...
@Vicenteprz
@Vicenteprz 24 күн бұрын
t1 fans are mostly casual lolesports viewers lol i think 60% of them cant name the full t1 roster
@ok3739
@ok3739 24 күн бұрын
Clear as day it’s just a bunch of T1 fans complaining about this only
@queensforever7498
@queensforever7498 25 күн бұрын
As a new t1 fan I'm sick of the all t1 fans are delusional narrative. We are all not. I am after all an iwd fan 😅😂
@roooo8327
@roooo8327 25 күн бұрын
If there's a God and justice in this world BLG will win Worlds 🙌
@SimplyLimitless
@SimplyLimitless 25 күн бұрын
i meannnn....time and place. review could wait till after the finals, it's possible that blg has gaps in their info that could potentially be in that analysis. i would like to believe that their fellow koreans are cheering them on to take home another title for korea but wouldn't be farfetched to think a salty loser would want to help the enemy of their enemy. who knows tho, you can only assume that person's intentions
@yihadistxdl951
@yihadistxdl951 25 күн бұрын
geng academy coach is better than the coaching staff of the best team in china confirmed. wake up
@SimplyLimitless
@SimplyLimitless 25 күн бұрын
@ yup because that’s exactly what I said, totally didn’t say that anything is possible 🙂
@AlexisNess-mn4zw
@AlexisNess-mn4zw 25 күн бұрын
Why does it apply to just the academy coach then?Should all sports ban analysis because x coach could be watching it?
@yihadistxdl951
@yihadistxdl951 25 күн бұрын
@@SimplyLimitless yes i know what you said but the fact that youre even entertaining the possibility that he intentionally posted this to help blg, which is like so detached from reality conspiracy theory that makes absolutely no sense in any form, that even considering it possible i think is ridiculous. its like when someone says the earth is flat and you respond with "i dont personally think so but im not an expert on this, so it is certainly possible." no its not even possible. i dont think youre stupid or anything, but it is absolutely more far fetched than you think it is. because even if this guy wanted to help blg, this wouldnt help blg. their coaches are much better than an inexperienced amateur geng academy coach
@SimplyLimitless
@SimplyLimitless 25 күн бұрын
@ I bet you’re one of those people who so desperately want china to be the best region when all the evidence suggests otherwise lol. CN is to KR what NA is to EU, a bunch of 1 way trading of players and fan boys who desperately want the region to be better than the other while it’s being propped up by the other region’s players, that being said CN is still the most entertaining region to watch since it’s so bloody. But anyways I didn’t say it 100% helped them, said there is a possibility that it could have, it would have been better for all parties involved if the person had just waited till after the finals and if you think other wise you’re probably just stupid AF.
@gungnir5031
@gungnir5031 25 күн бұрын
I looked at twitter. Its all people crying about T1 fans. Aside from the original thread no one was talking about it. Cant bring up reasons to hate t1 team so now have to go after their fans. Create your own happiness 😂😂😂
@diaperamess
@diaperamess 25 күн бұрын
t1 fan spotted
@gungnir5031
@gungnir5031 25 күн бұрын
@diaperamess and? Cry baby spotted. Cmon cry some more for me 🤡
@HyanStevens
@HyanStevens 24 күн бұрын
you clearly misunderstood the T1 fans' disappointment. and it did look disgusting and the analysis is normal but yes they can be mad
@SStrikeFury
@SStrikeFury 25 күн бұрын
Dom really needs to 100% rewatch the VOD of game 1 again because Zeus played that dive onto him (as Gragas) very well.
@VolkovBos
@VolkovBos 24 күн бұрын
Average T1 fan looking like all my colleagues… no clue(braincells) and lots of opinions…
@nd7231
@nd7231 25 күн бұрын
why is this kid complaining about something not even on reddit?
@abethaproduct1738
@abethaproduct1738 24 күн бұрын
So… I’m a T1 fan and I’m sitting here going, so what did he do wrong? I’m pretty sure BLG pays people to do exactly this kind of analysis…. Very confused why my fellow T1 fans are up in arms about this. I love T1, but holy shit the fan base is trash sometimes.
@codymartindale4340
@codymartindale4340 24 күн бұрын
You can tie 1 hand behind fakers back and give blg 1 game start, and t1 will still win
@billS560
@billS560 24 күн бұрын
I'm a big T1 fan, this is weird. Lol Saying you hate T1 fans is weird too. 😂
@connornguyen4336
@connornguyen4336 24 күн бұрын
Dude is so triggered about a vocal minority of idiots and then goes and calls that minority "These T1 fans." Lmfao
@Foyahxd
@Foyahxd 25 күн бұрын
Its unreal that people freakout about this. It's not like there's 10 coaches and analysts on each team live viewing every single one of their opponents match right?? That would be unfair for T1!
@davidovich8030
@davidovich8030 24 күн бұрын
Dom talking about mental illness, how fun
@davidovich8030
@davidovich8030 24 күн бұрын
You and your fans are so toxic but you critizice other community's xD
@JACK_5119
@JACK_5119 25 күн бұрын
Will not support gen support t1
@rajce4349
@rajce4349 25 күн бұрын
T1 fans are like the only reason I hope BLG wins the finals, this is why
@ibaccatol08
@ibaccatol08 24 күн бұрын
If GenG won the series do you think that coach will post there own strat gameplay? And if he posted that what do you think the reaction of the GenG org? Haha
@ibaccatol08
@ibaccatol08 24 күн бұрын
They will say yuh its cool dude haha
@rajce4349
@rajce4349 24 күн бұрын
@@ibaccatol08 yeah you are the reason I hope BLG wins lol
@ibaccatol08
@ibaccatol08 24 күн бұрын
@@rajce4349 hahha
@ibaccatol08
@ibaccatol08 24 күн бұрын
@@rajce4349 your BLG will got stomped again T1 3-0 mark may word buddy
@emanergza6383
@emanergza6383 25 күн бұрын
T1 bad T1 good, GenG bad, GenG good I've been gone for 3 years and the league mental illness got worse.
@fakeperson4844
@fakeperson4844 25 күн бұрын
I really hope BLG 3-0 T1 🙏
@thaib2724
@thaib2724 25 күн бұрын
wait untill they figure out that BLG coaches watched that game and probably did their own analys
@Cashmoneez
@Cashmoneez 25 күн бұрын
Worst part is I bet the geng assistant coach got fire bc of how much the lck community panders to the t1 psychos…
@obryzii
@obryzii 24 күн бұрын
Huh? isn't this just regular content? I guess kr/cn fans don't know this because they don't think western content is worth watching xddd
@ptrckng
@ptrckng 24 күн бұрын
This is similar to athletes watching film on opponents to prepare. They can devise a plan to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses. Analysis from the TNT Crew for the NBA is basically what this is.
@qGods
@qGods 24 күн бұрын
Regardless of whether or not BLG can actually make use of it or not, its a matter of principle. Why are you, as a GenG analyst, publicly posting something like this, right before a grand final. League of Legends is a human based game, BLG might have their own analysts that DID figure the same things out, or they might have analysts that figured other things out. Youre not helping your own region by posting this, and then to say that you "want lck to win", just sounds like a slap in the face.
@vidocq9718
@vidocq9718 24 күн бұрын
How is this a "leak" ? xD T1 fans...
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