for anyone wondering. i was DIO BRANDO BUT WITH DRIP
@honk84343 жыл бұрын
I was the lad himself Ron mcdon
@dancingflameaxelotl28783 жыл бұрын
golly, sure do wonder who i was
@itwasidio17363 жыл бұрын
Nice
@10k_kiji3 жыл бұрын
what about Pucci (made in heaven) vs alien x since they can both reset the universe correct?
@diooverheaven43703 жыл бұрын
@@10k_kiji can pucci do that? huh. didn't know cause i have only watched the anime up to part 5
@Tachyon3222 жыл бұрын
7:56 in the kirby games, blade knight is a charachter that wields a sword, but uses it at a basic level. When kirby inhales blade knight, he gets sword abilityand is proficient with it. Enough so to even duel meta knight. So by that logic, if kirby inhaled goku he would master ultra instinct.
@reinbew794 Жыл бұрын
"He becomes you, but simply better."
@skullkid3465 Жыл бұрын
KIRBY IS TASKMASTER CONFRIMED
@manoluigisupershow1411 Жыл бұрын
I think there actually was a fan animation (CharlesCBernardo) where Saitama trains Kirby for a Megaton Punch contest, but then Kirby just eats him and desintegrates earth entirely, so yeah
@tematomo3 жыл бұрын
ok i know we're talking about literally everything else, but poor Pixel/Maya! They just wanted to talk about Persona 5....
@heroex19773 жыл бұрын
I felt sad for her
@ElysiaPristine13 жыл бұрын
I would talk
@waterized_bottle3 жыл бұрын
Sadly She gon :(
@crimsonwolf81743 жыл бұрын
Kirby>goku: aint agile enough Kirby>saitama: god killer, man physic Kirbysteve Goku?saitama: who knows Gokiben:X isnt physically op Goki>steve Saitamasteve Ben=/steve
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonwolf8174 wrong thread lmao
@ballisticblocker9163 Жыл бұрын
I love how Edgeworth is basically shouting “what about Saiki” throughout as if they’re third wheeling this whole argument.
@YunaMK Жыл бұрын
I think people should give more attention to Saiki
@Masthegreatest0811 ай бұрын
*turns inhibitor off*
@kiddbusiness2 жыл бұрын
"What kind of Lilo and Stitch logic?!" Best part. Hands down.
@vantawave93233 жыл бұрын
God tier debate, Absolutely loved it, Definitely do more in the future!
@86_percent283 жыл бұрын
The whole thing about Saitama’s character is that no one truly knows his limits, not even himself. Just because no one has seen him accomplish the stuff Goku has doesn’t mean that he can’t. People arguing over whether Goku or Saitama would win in a fight are missing the point of Saitama. Edit: People in the comments keep proving my point of how redundant this argument is
@gigaatom3 жыл бұрын
Well said I think it's best to just leave him out of the whole Vs argument there are much better debates to be had. No one can agree on the power scaling so neither party can be right. Is rather debate stuff like Goku Vs something stupid like overhaul who can just smear someone into 2d by touching them, but is also just a dude.
@TwilightFlower93 жыл бұрын
Well, Goku is vulnerable to joke character power scaling (that one time he lost to Arale.) So it's not too out there to say that Saitama wins just out of being somewhat a joke character.
@Not_Claptrap3 жыл бұрын
That's a no limit fallacy and with that alone we cant fully argue who would win so we have to go off of feats alone and with that goku wins. That argument falls flat when you consider that chiaotzu hasn't gone full power since nappa but is very clearly weaker than tien
@trigger7ff63 жыл бұрын
also: "destroyed a moon" level isn't quite right when even doing a single held back punch blew through a legitimate mountain and a solid amount of clouds with only the shockwave and air pressure. he's also apparently immortal or something, only taking minor scratches from god tier attacks and such. combine that with the fact that he almost always hits things with only ONE punch, knows barely anything of martial arts or any combat expertise, and has pretty much always held back in every fight, and i get the feeling that if you taught saitama any kind of martial art he'd need cheese strats like airblast or something to beat. (his weakness: joke character/close range. keep the boi away and you should be mostly okay.)
@Not_Claptrap3 жыл бұрын
@@TwilightFlower9 goku "lost" (I might be misremembering but wasnt the fight a draw? Beerus interrupted it) to arale because shes a gag character. Theres a very big difference between a gag character and a parody character. Arale is a gag character because she can punch earth in half and then the earth is fine next frame. Saitama is a parody character because hes just mocking strong anime characters while still needing to obey the rules of his universe. Any damage he does cant be reversed, such as the mountain he destroyed while fighting genos
@surprisetroll57003 жыл бұрын
Steve destroys eveyone up until some 10 year old morphs into one of the most powerful things in fiction
@dasherplayz44713 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say the most powerful fictional character, there are definitely stronger characters.
@bevear3 жыл бұрын
@@dasherplayz4471 He can weight infinite things in his back pocket but yes but no.
@dasherplayz44713 жыл бұрын
@@bevear I was talking about Ben 10/alien X
@ebicbarton3 жыл бұрын
@@dasherplayz4471 "you can blink, and you'd be gone"
@dasherplayz44713 жыл бұрын
@@ebicbarton and what are you trying to tell me
@jamie2233 жыл бұрын
saiki and saitama are both gag characters, so if they're allowed to be at the levels of strength that we see them at in their shows, then they'd most likely be the last two left. (minus ben, i think he'd also survive)
@aaronondaye2503 жыл бұрын
but if this didnt takeplace i n there universe or in gokus one goku slaps both of them
@doctorbob12232 жыл бұрын
@@aaronondaye250 goku have no chance against saiki
@aaronondaye2502 жыл бұрын
@@doctorbob1223 how?
@doctorbob12232 жыл бұрын
@@aaronondaye250 can goku prevent saiki from taking his glass off
@aaronondaye2502 жыл бұрын
@@doctorbob1223 goku can speed blitz him and read his mind so ye saiki loses
@note27323 жыл бұрын
I would like to mention that Kirby can indeed inhale things larger than him without Hypernova. This is shown in Return to Dreamland, where he can inhale blocks larger than himself
@fancymustache37932 жыл бұрын
I would like to mention as well that in a specific kirby game he was infact able to store abilities for later (I forget which game) which he can call upon whenever he wants once obtained
@sunnysidemin2 жыл бұрын
its kirby squeak squad
@joshuahoefler12442 жыл бұрын
Kirby killed a god who destroyed a universe by just waking up so think Kirby could win and killing gods is Kirby’s specialty.
@egglord20292 жыл бұрын
Seeing what that most recent game, he can inhale them just not swallow them
@lukasruston86182 жыл бұрын
@@egglord2029 The most recent Kirby game specifically says that he was only able to stretch that much because of a weird side affect of him travelling to that dimension, it's unconfirmed whether he keeps that ability after he left that world though.
@ichamsakkar42493 жыл бұрын
Kirby is so powerful he literally killed Necrodeus, the "God of Death", and that God had to weaken Kirb to be able to partially take him out.
@metal_pipe97642 жыл бұрын
They also have unlimited power
@PointsofData2 жыл бұрын
@@Acrim7 I was gonna day, Kirby wins because he would just eat everyone. Also he's so cute no one would want to hurt him.
@satgurs2 жыл бұрын
@@PointsofData saiki doesnt have any emotions, so being cute does not apply, he would just take his glasses of and turn everyone into statues, or if they have time to prepare he can just time travel and kill his enemies before they become a threat
@skibbledebabble1853 Жыл бұрын
@@satgurs would stone eyes work on kirby or nor? i mean he has the stone copy ability
@satgurs Жыл бұрын
@@skibbledebabble1853 yes, they would. there have been no restrictions stated to saiki's stone eyes ability, so if we are staying true to the story of both, yes.
@Echo_13 жыл бұрын
3:12 to quote Kevin himself they ( alien x’s species) can blink and we’d be gone
@cypher8383 жыл бұрын
Kevin E Leven would probably clap saitama.
@10k_kiji3 жыл бұрын
about made in heaven (JoJo)
@elijared1003 жыл бұрын
@@10k_kiji ger probcan, made in heaven wouldnt reseting the universe kill him
@10k_kiji3 жыл бұрын
@@elijared100 I said alien x’s race
@duster5753 жыл бұрын
@@cypher838 osmosians can take powers. Nuff said
@sorakh41193 жыл бұрын
This would basically end up being a fight between Saiki and Ben as their the strongest people their(in terms of hax). I know people are gonna say Goku would win but Goku has no chance against 2 universal reality warping beings.
@habibasayed62943 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if that's a joke
@thatdude77933 жыл бұрын
Well saiki wins as long as he puts down his glasses before the match starts
@dustorm50123 жыл бұрын
Ya forgot someone *shaggy*
@sorakh41193 жыл бұрын
@Landen Ho “God Shaggy”
@sorakh41193 жыл бұрын
@@habibasayed6294 You wanna talk shit yet don’t have an argument against me? Cringe.
@danielribeiro96782 жыл бұрын
I think this is probably the first time I’ve seen Ben brought up in a debate like this outside the Ben 10 fandom. I’m also relatively surprised nobody brought up GER Giorno or Heaven Ascension DIO since both have the most OP abilities in all of JoJo’s.
@jaoofy2 жыл бұрын
GER is basicly just a stalemate. Its a counter that can activate without the user being aware of whats happening, but just BARLEY killed diavolo in like 3 barrages. It might even be weaker than Star Platinum in strength (probably not but its likley) As for High on Heaven DIO, it can only go two ways 1. He gets speed blitzed before he can do anything and dies 2. Since nobody can see his stand, he 1 taps everyone
@LucasNo5772 жыл бұрын
@@jaoofy Goku is able to sense ki. Stand = Physical Manifistation of Soul. Soul = Energy. Energy = Ki. Goku destroys DIO OH.
@jaoofy2 жыл бұрын
@@LucasNo577 The rule isn't "Only people who can sense souls can see stands" its "only people that have stands can see stands". Also, a stand is the manifestation of the soul, not the soul itself. Also, souls are not energy.
@LucasNo5772 жыл бұрын
@@jaoofy Without a soul you‘re not alive
@LucasNo5772 жыл бұрын
@@jaoofy I don‘t know what you‘re talking about
@cultofhampter2 жыл бұрын
"You are in court what punishment do you want to ge-" "Yooooo i wanna beat up that god over there"
@ExFabian3 жыл бұрын
this video will be randomly recommended to everyone in one day,i can sense it
@schizophrenic_rambler3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps in 7 years, 5 months, 21 days, and 3 seconds from now
@sethseth87723 жыл бұрын
Part 2 never came
@DeathByAutoscroll2 жыл бұрын
That day is today
@terra5932 жыл бұрын
yup
@bryanclark62392 жыл бұрын
You were right
@honk84343 жыл бұрын
“When did you get here wright?”
@fedolnex90733 жыл бұрын
Here I am watching lawyers fight over anime characters
@lavacake12123 жыл бұрын
Are you telling me that Ben 10 is an anime??
@alejandrozapata62862 жыл бұрын
Cartoon lawyers fighting over cartoon fighters.
@foxonrye2 жыл бұрын
Cartoon lawyers fighting over fictional characters I mean the last time I checked Ben was made in america so he ain't anime and steve and kirby are video game.
@MADKapo Жыл бұрын
I love Maya pulling up and being like "hey guys i know this has nothing to do with the conversation but-NO ONE CARES". Definitely me in every group chat 🥲
@droideka18902 жыл бұрын
The weirdest part about Kirby is that when he gets a game over it’s not because he dies, he just gets tired and you wake him up to try again (at least in older games), so it’s like Pokemon, they don’t really die as much as get KO’d / too tired
@titanic_monarch7963 жыл бұрын
Kirby is an interesting one, because he isn't hugely strong on his own but has pretty limitless potential
@joshuahoefler12442 жыл бұрын
Ok so who would win well Steve isn’t as strong as people think I Minecraft lore things in Steve’s inventory are weight less so he’s about as strong as a normal human and one punch man has no limit meaning he could get infinitely stronger but in his universe there nothing strong enough to push him to get any stronger like a body builder but only with 5 pound weights and the fighter’s would have no prep time and one punch man at his most probably could destroy a star and that being generous and that is impressive but Ben 10 when ailen x destroyed a universe with a thought and gouku um that complicated and idk know much about him but i think Ben when ailen x could defeat him and Kirby kills gods all the time he once killed a god who destroyed a universe by just waking up and has been stated to have infinit power so I think Kirby could take Ben in ailen x form but it could go either way I think either Ben 10 or Kirby wins.
@sonicwithglasses1312 жыл бұрын
@@joshuahoefler1244 also steve does not solo the smash verse canonly, game sonic, kirby, beyonetta, will give him a hard time
@sonicwithglasses1312 жыл бұрын
@@joshuahoefler1244 but game sonic beats both kirby and steve
@newchannelman6183 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuahoefler1244 couldn't Goku use the spirit bomb or something?
@LegoWhisbecauseyes7 ай бұрын
No limits fallacy
@reeree7723 жыл бұрын
Saitama was implied to have godly powers and Kirby is a god killer
@W1tchOfRebirth3 жыл бұрын
Introducing: Archie Sonic.
@schizophrenic_rambler3 жыл бұрын
SCP-682 is literally immortal
@reeree7723 жыл бұрын
@@schizophrenic_rambler well I don’t think there is a definitive answer
@schizophrenic_rambler3 жыл бұрын
@@reeree772 let's be honest. Who can resist the peanut god's attack? FOR 10 HOURS?
@F00Tss3 жыл бұрын
Joaquim Sosa 682 isnt immortal, hes just very adaptive. And you could probably find a way to almost permanently contain the peanut. The eye things or maybe just broadcast it.
@AceTechn03 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Kirby would win ONLY because he PHYSICALLY can’t take more than one damage at a time (usually he has 6 health) so he could just swallow them and spit them out while damage boosting
@ruinandchaos3 жыл бұрын
Kirby doesn't die when he loses hitpoints. Every game over screen just has him taking a nap IIRC.
@mrboerger16203 жыл бұрын
Kirby legitimately has planetary durability.
@jaoofy2 жыл бұрын
imagine goku uses spirit bomb and Kirby s it and eats him
@destijohnson87082 жыл бұрын
@@jaoofy Ah yes, the most powerful thing in existence... bs s.
@BobThePenguin.2 жыл бұрын
kirby could fight zeno and win unironically
@jeffthepotato84032 жыл бұрын
This fight makes no sense because everyone has plot armor.
@GenesisSonicN64Mario3 жыл бұрын
I like how they say Kirby is 7 yet he's -100+ years old. So he's mega baby but still universal level.
@Solesteam3 жыл бұрын
If Goku looses to Saitama (did I spell it right?) he would be ecstatic, not only is this guy a stronger challenge for him to try to overcome, but he also doesn't threaten to destroy something every 5 minutes like beerus does.
@Swagmaster11023 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Goku is eager to find a person stronger than him, or atleast give him a good fight. If he loses, Goku just trains harder, to eventually win. Goku’s pride is just fighting a good fight.
@aaronondaye2503 жыл бұрын
goku wont lose since he is multiversal
@honque24902 жыл бұрын
@@aaronondaye250 since when? Yeah his power is insane and there is no doubt about it, there are limitations of his character. We would like to say he can just go above and beyond but until he actually does that, ultra instinct is about as high as we can get. However everything that we have seen saitama fight instantly gets obliterated no matter how strong they seem, you say the dude destroyed planets but it’s said he traveled the galaxy to find saitama and saitama beat him with no repercussions on himself whatsoever.
@aaronondaye2502 жыл бұрын
@@honque2490 bro just cuz u travelled a galaxy it doesnt mean anything he travelled in a ship also beerus traveled a universal distance and goku still got whooped
@matsuokaryuu4662 жыл бұрын
@@aaronondaye250 saitama won't lose because hes always stronger
@l1ghtd3m0n33 жыл бұрын
Kirby is just laughing at any argument. My boy has a backlog of feats that make him high universal tier. EDIT: And after thinking about it, beating Void Termina, a literal universe-ending god, means a more fair matchup would be Zen-Oh of all people.
@TitanusGojiraEditz3 жыл бұрын
Steve's thorns armor will damage those who attack him. Basically UNO Reverse card. Also, if Kirby is allowed to have these feats as his abilities, Steve should have Creative.
@anotherhuman3403 жыл бұрын
@@TitanusGojiraEditz Creative mode and thorns don't matter because Kirby's suck doesn't do any damage
@TitanusGojiraEditz3 жыл бұрын
@@anotherhuman340 Alright then. *Steve: /set TNT*
@anotherhuman3403 жыл бұрын
@@TitanusGojiraEditz Kirby is durable enough to be completely unharmed from the collapse of a dimension, so I don't think TNT would hurt him
@amia7z3 жыл бұрын
But didn't Kirby need the power of ✨friendship✨ to beat Void?
@toxicgamerdudez18513 жыл бұрын
Everyone: “fighting over Ben 10 and Saiki” Me: “ I have a shaggy”
@ssmarton3 жыл бұрын
Shaggy: Im impreased im gonna fight a kid with a cool watch , a small living ball, and a bald man. You know i wont even have to use 11% of my power on you, you all will surfer painfull deaths
@pochita49963 жыл бұрын
Goku coming back with a drip: finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary
@kirby34833 жыл бұрын
Shaggy I have a kirby
@kirby34833 жыл бұрын
And shaggy just a meme
@kirby34833 жыл бұрын
@Logan Foran Here a lore to Kirby and power kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4mXoZ2qZdWti6s
@Unknown-xo7td3 жыл бұрын
9 minutes into the video and im surprised Phoenix hasn't pulled the kirby has unlimited power card it literally says it in planet robobot
@parasiticus5312 жыл бұрын
Kirby can access abilities he’s already received, as seen when Kirby uses a hypernova fruit that was already swallowed.
@a_melon87543 жыл бұрын
4:50 Isn’t... isn’t the whole point of his first World Martial Arts Tournament for Roshi to teach him that there will always be someone stronger than him? Y’know... a lesson in humility? Plus, the “oops my fist slipped” was literally him punching a genocidal universe conquering tyrant. so i think that’s justified.
@Not_Claptrap3 жыл бұрын
Plus frieza did that joke first. Goku just returned the favour
@remzero70882 жыл бұрын
@@Not_Claptrap yeah Frieza did it first
@christopherbravo1813 Жыл бұрын
well clearly Goku is a horrible student.
@TrueSnowMans3 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of shaggy huh? Edgeworth : ah sheet here we go again
@phylaxinator70403 жыл бұрын
he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond universal level
@WebbedManiac3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, that unfunny garbage meme that people keep bringing up.
@darx4383 жыл бұрын
@@WebbedManiac Fr it’s so annoying
@AmbushBug5223 жыл бұрын
No offense dude but who cares if you don’t like it? Let people have fun.
@fybthe19873 жыл бұрын
@@AmbushBug522 your mom
@sadrat53753 жыл бұрын
But in Amazing Mirror doesn't Kirby have an ability literally known as the Copy ability? He scans an enemy and it gets damaged whilst also taking the enemy's ability.
@memelurd73412 жыл бұрын
It originally appeared in super star
@joshuahoefler12442 жыл бұрын
Kirby killed a god who destroyed a universe by just waking up so think Kirby could win and killing gods is Kirby’s specialty.
@hampter5622 жыл бұрын
I think they’re forgetting something. A certain game called “Kirby Clash”. Kirby in that game has basically the ultimate form of every single power. (Excluding the robot and hypernova) He was also able to defeat alternate and parallel realities, such as the soul melter modes. He destroyed Void Termina 3 times over, even when he didn’t have a single ally or power. Keep in mind, Void Termina is the embodiment of “Dark Matter”, the villain in pretty much every Kirby game. Kirby has also defeated Galactica Knight, the greatest warrior in the multiverse, and his final form, Morpho Knight. Aside from that, he was also able to defeat Magolor, the Dark Wizard who got his hands on the Master Crown, Star Dream, the smartest AI ever created, being able to open portals, black holes, control all of Haltmann’s machines, and recreate beings from the past or future, as well as other realities, and Queen Sectonia, who was able to control “The Dream Stalk” at her will, being able to pretty much spread it everywhere over Planet Popstar like a plague. Oh yeah, and Marx. The one purple jester we all know and love :3
@demarlobascombe97 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that game wasn't cannon
@hampter562 Жыл бұрын
@@demarlobascombe97 lmfao I forgot this comment existed, and yeah, I think you’re right
@EtrnlCntr Жыл бұрын
@@demarlobascombe97 It's cannon, but in an alternate timeline or dimension or something like that, but it is cannon.
@christopherbravo1813 Жыл бұрын
I mean, when you're up against even 1% of the power of God Himself, brute force will only get you so far.
@saki.susaki2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure who exactly was the person Ema was representing, but I just gotta say, absolutely loved them. Felt like a calm and collected soul in this chaotic mess of fictional characters being in a theoretical fight. Oh, and Apollo. Rooting so hard for Steve to then realizing reality with the tier list 😂 I really enjoyed his presence too, feels like something I would do. Like if I was trying to hold my own in front of actual professors who know their sht. Ha, he tried his best, you gotta appreciate him for that. Keep trying man, you'll make it one day. 💪
@aj_style1745 Жыл бұрын
Ema represents the person who posted the video, according to the description.
@quiteararediamond10093 жыл бұрын
This is fucking hilarious how they started talking about anime and then it turned into chats about video games aAND anime
@geraldballinger64282 жыл бұрын
ben 10 he just: 1.turns into alien x 2.blink and destroy their entire franchises
@monta_squid3 жыл бұрын
THERE’S SO MUCH BEN 10 LORE I NEVER KNEW ABOUT
@SpaceMonkeyyE3 ай бұрын
I just find it funny how this whole video they argue, and literally no one thought that Steve just had a Respawn Button, No One Said It Was Hardcore Mode…
@bluberducky91173 жыл бұрын
Man I need more of these I love these arguments not to mention ace attorney
@kaexewires75313 жыл бұрын
holy cow i need my chips for this, this is gonna be a long one
@Solesteam3 жыл бұрын
Took me a moment to realize you have some of the most powerful beings in media for this topic.
@sayonnaise71522 жыл бұрын
I love how everyone forgot about Kirby’s ultra abilities from Return to Dreamland.
@skibbledebabble1853 Жыл бұрын
if kirby walks up with fuckin ultra sword then EVERYBODY is fucking done for. except maybe saitama or ben
@luciver32222 жыл бұрын
19:05 actualy in order for alien x to have reacreated the universe as he did in omniverse he would have had to know the exact position and direction of every particle in the universe, and acording to the theory of causation this would make him able to predict the future.
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
it is also canon that Alien X exists outside time so he can see all of time at once. when present Ben or future Ben transforms into Alien X, it's the same Alien X every single time. it is confirmed to be omnipresent
@Skippymcskep3 жыл бұрын
Can we all just agree that shaggy could remove all of them from existence with a snap of his fingers
@inferlazeboi2 жыл бұрын
meme characters for the win
@legoblockboi94872 жыл бұрын
no
@bocchiii.2 жыл бұрын
Gigachad would neg him no diff
@plaaxys2 жыл бұрын
So is alienx and saiki
@nathanielgarza91982 жыл бұрын
Yea, but Nicholas cage can probably win without even thinking about it
@iamlucidess3 жыл бұрын
Give Saitama a few more years of "character development" and I bet we will see a better idea of what he can actually do. We always pit him against 100% max potential characters like UI Goku or endgame Ben10 or whatever.. but never really considering the time it took to get that powerful in the first place. Maybe we have only seen less than 1% of Saitama's power and that he is multi-universal destruction, but only from where he punches. That's a huge problem in the power scale community by the way. If they can destroy a universe but didn't do it yet, then there must be a very good reason: power levels really are bullcrap. If they can blow up a solar system I wanna see it or they can't do it. Or is a simple description from the manga saying "they did" is enough for you? In any case the common logic i see is: Goku is strongest because he has the most screen time powering up.
@gigaatom3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wait for Saitama to actually break a significant sweat then we'll debate different universes because by God I cant stand trying to agree on logic for Saitama
@sirkillalot98923 жыл бұрын
@@gigaatom Really Saitama is just planet level at best, mostly because lack of big opposition and relying on their statements. But people try to force the narrative that he is invincible/omnipotent and not just an elephant fighting ants.
@emocharms01773 жыл бұрын
@@sirkillalot9892 They only really think that because he is "supposedly" a gag character. Even if he was, look at Arale, she's a gag character yet she lost to Beerus
@garlicsalt3172 жыл бұрын
I don't give a crap about Saitama's power, you can't compare him to anyone else because his whole point is he's a gag character that doesn't lose
@matsuokaryuu4662 жыл бұрын
@@gigaatom the whole idea about saitana is that hes too strong. He already killed a being fhat can conquer the universe if i remember c8rrectly
@alextheliononsteroids89142 жыл бұрын
I really spent 21minutes and 27 seconds watching digital characters discussing what digital characters would win in a fight-
@happycool10893 жыл бұрын
I dont what you guys talking about but saiyan race’s passive is literally just op “you can get stronger every time you fight someone”
@hayescausey99413 жыл бұрын
I thought zenkai boosts stopped when you reach the kind of power that goku has. Or at least, they stopped from a narrative perspective.
@abhinavmohabe28052 жыл бұрын
Saitama is getting stronger even if he is not training
@mementomori36652 жыл бұрын
@@hayescausey9941 Not really, no. The Tournament of Power literally proves it.
@classicboi3502 жыл бұрын
The ammount of evidence tags in a usual genra objection.lol is how many people hate maya in this video
@JoseGabrielMoraisdaSilva2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I got here, but I'm enjoying every second!
@cybergooninja0043 жыл бұрын
I love how no one cared about Ben until the end where they were just like: oh yeah Ben beat up a god on multiple occasions and stoped the big bang. Also bonus thing: the first time the analarg (the big bang maker) he didn't even REALISE the universe was being destroyed. Also stoped a time bomb destroying EVERY TIMELINE, WITHOUT ALIEN X Edit: I have 9 likes on this and I'm sad that's the highest amount of likes I've ever got lol
@cybergooninja0043 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah and the whole timeline stopping from being destroyed was done by a Ben who had never got the omitrix before
@otakusensei35493 жыл бұрын
Now u have 10. Hehe, ben 10
@cybergooninja0043 жыл бұрын
@@otakusensei3549 now I have eleven. And now I'm wondering what would happen if they added Kevin 11 to the argument (all Omnitrix aliens absorbed AND he has his own from the remake)
@bentennyson63043 жыл бұрын
There are some theories that the ahnilarg also created the universe’s timelines and dimensions
@cybergooninja0043 жыл бұрын
@@bentennyson6304 I mean if the device was used by each separate timeline's 5th dimensional being then I think yeah but I dunno
@nojatha46373 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that at the end of the day, there aren’t people who actually believe Goku can beat Saitama.
@schizophrenic_rambler3 жыл бұрын
About that...
@prosterdbz96633 жыл бұрын
You sure, bro?
@Lonk29763 жыл бұрын
Nice bait
@sirkillalot98923 жыл бұрын
Actually...
@r3mpter7363 жыл бұрын
Hmm…
@Cl-20482 жыл бұрын
I love how they didn't even mention Steve's god apples. Also, since Saiki has *extreme* intelligence, he could figure out how to prevent Alien X from interfering, and therefore beat Ben.
@CommentPositionInformer2 жыл бұрын
Except nothing he can do would prevent Alien X from interfering. Unless he waa stronger than Alien X, which he isn't.
@Cl-20482 жыл бұрын
@@CommentPositionInformer He can simply remove his limiters and probably go back to when Alien X was weakest before it can interfere and beat it to death
@bryanclark62392 жыл бұрын
@@Cl-2048 when alien x was weakest he was a baby and even celestial sapiens that are baby’s they can still alter reality as shown in ultimate alien
@parry3439 Жыл бұрын
@@Cl-2048 alien x was weakest? bruh lmao Alien X was never "weak". Omnitrix turns users into the prime version of the selected species for their age. there is no "young" or "previously weak" alien x.
@thegreatscribbles9602 жыл бұрын
The idea that kirby would just make everyone his friends...then eat them is a terrify idea because that's what you can do in the game
@Happywaffle10102 жыл бұрын
kirby is like canonicaly god. and i’m not sure but it’s implied he became the god of death or judgement or whatever. and is unaffected by death. also he can inhale cars and huge stairs now so that’s a thing
@akselmarazyan30602 жыл бұрын
Incredible video this was an extremely good debate you should definitely make a part 2 with more characters like superman thor doctor strange
@simple__sigma32872 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention saiki power is growing everyday, also did I really just sit through all this?
@PinkOrangeOrangePink3 жыл бұрын
Penn zero/ the villain dude could take over over the body of any protagonist or antagonist in any universe for a time, which is strong, or was it they became a unique person in each universe?
@beatinondrums2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Wright is correct about Kirby, in a main line game: Planet Robobot, if you pause the game while Kirby is in his base form, it states that he has limitless power, something along that line. In another game it states that his stomach is a literal BLACK HOLE. If we get rid of the fact that Steve isn't in creative mode or in his world, Kirby oneshots.
@TheDiggity423 жыл бұрын
god I’d love to be in one of these debates
@yetanotherdeadpoolfan73743 жыл бұрын
Can't they all just chill and be friends? I prefer the chill option
@ssmarton3 жыл бұрын
STILL CHILL
@lancetheking75242 жыл бұрын
I feel like even if Steve had undying totems he would still lose, unless we use Game Theory stats
@True-Neo-Chaos2 жыл бұрын
We are talking about creative mode steve which has strength to destroy even outerversal plus things in 1 shot durability that cant even be hurt and his hax are inf since steve can change the game code
@lancetheking75242 жыл бұрын
@@True-Neo-Chaos creative mode is kinda cheating
@True-Neo-Chaos2 жыл бұрын
@@lancetheking7524 they give others their op form but they dont give steve thats to unfairness they also dont give saiki an rule either this thing is mostly 1 sided
@LegoWhisbecauseyes7 ай бұрын
Creative mode is game mechanic, it scalea nowhere
@koreldemir29762 жыл бұрын
Saiki is just beyond goku if he takes his antenna out he is basically in creative mode
@fifi37122 жыл бұрын
Saiki and Ben are the only two who ppl should actually have a real debate on
@seweyjr550411 ай бұрын
Until you meet Kirby + cake
@alienfreakazoid1517 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact people are actually debating this.
@LatinoAmigo.3 жыл бұрын
why do i feel like the disastrous life of saiki k. is underrated?
@HylianKnight023 жыл бұрын
If I could. I still think Saitama is in the running here. If I'm not mistaken, his strongest feat we've seen so far is Season 1, Episode 12. "The Strongest Hero", in which during his fight with Boros, he unleashed his strongest move we've seen so far. "Killer Move. Serious Series. Serious Punch." which, as we see, completely nullified Boros's ultimate move "Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon" which is said to be able to destroy entire planets, we see the clouds part across the entirety of planet earth in the aftermath. This is where most people stop at disecting his power level. But if you continue the scene a bit further, we see Boros is still alive, albeit in pieces, and dies moments later, but before he does, he has this exchange with Saitama. Saitama:"You're still conscious? You really are strong." Boros:"The Prophecy held true...the battle was...hard fought..." Saitama:"Yeah....it sure was." Boros:"...You lie...you had strength to spare....I never stood a chance....it wasn't even a battle...so much for prophecies....you were too strong...Saitama." Boros outright calls Saitama out. Even with the Serious Punch, Saitama was still holding back. Meaning we have yet to see the full extent of his power. Characters like Goku are always seen hitting SOME sort of limit, then overcoming it, currently, Goku's limit is fully mastering Ultra Instinct, and he'll probably overcome that at some point as well. The thing with Saitama is, we haven't SEEN that limit yet. We have only seen him at his WEAKEST, which is his fight with Crablante, prior to his 3 years of training. The weakest attack we see AFTER his training, I think is his crotch shot to Speed-O'-Sound Sonic. We have not yet seen him throw his STRONGEST attack, meaning he is taking things seriously, and throws a punch to the fullest extent of his power, not holding ANYTHING back. Until we see him at his absolute apex, facing a foe just as durable and strong as him, UNTIL HE REACHES HIS LIMIT, we cannot accurately compare his strength to others. That's his entire point as a parody/joke character. He beats EVERYONE he meets. Meaning, until otherwise, be treated as "he wins unless he just doesn't care and walks off". Like he does in "A Hero Nobody Knows" when you put two Saitama's against each other, as Saitama is the only one that actually affects his own health bar, he doesn't get K.O'd when his health reaches 0, he just...walks off, or runs off depending on which animation plays.
@kmn64203 жыл бұрын
I've never been able to point this out because I haven't seen opm be relevant ever since s2 came out. the whole purpose of an ungodly powerful character is to be an unquestionably strong being for comedic purposes. as you pointed out, he managed to cancel out Boros's planet destroying attack, and if we're going to do this on a power scaling level, boros is at least as powerful as ss3. saitama managed to completely deflect this and the impact was felt across the entire world, and even then, as boros states, "he still had strength to spare". thats probably the deepest we'll ever be able to guess saitama's power level. looks like his current status will remain immeasurable for years to come.
@boost515advanced93 жыл бұрын
the "saitama is the only one who affects his own health bar" is actually untrue as there have been multiple videos showing that he can get hurt from other characters just very very minorly. Steedoj has one of these videos
@kmn64203 жыл бұрын
@@boost515advanced9 i think what OP was referring to is that saitama is the only one who can affect his own health bar SERIOUSLY. either way, you're both still correct
@anime_fanforever88962 жыл бұрын
@@kmn6420 namek goku base level
@caddleveergamesz45573 жыл бұрын
"Doctor Manhattan, often shortened to Dr. Manhattan or simply Manhattan, is a fictional character who appears in comics published by DC Comics. He is considered the most powerful superhero in comics because he possesses unlimited powers" forgive me
@zarkahmed31993 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ben 10 fanboy, idk much about Dr. Manhattan but from what I hear about him he'd bully alien x's entire race at his sleep XD seriously you shouldn't put Dr. Manhattan here he's too strong compared to these characters
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
@@zarkahmed3199 isn't Dr Manhattan on the same tier if not higher than Paradox? Paradox is pretty much immune to Celestial Sapiens btw
@supreme_king_obama11582 жыл бұрын
@@paracame8162 god, I don’t even want to go into paradox. Every time he comes up in a power scaling debate it ends with a… paradox. I swear that wasn’t intentional
@Osama_Rashid6 ай бұрын
This was phenomenal. (I loved the Fetus Yeetus Deletus line). Motion Carried.
@Sarrr12 жыл бұрын
Why did I watch through this without skipping,sleeping off, and or fiddling with my phone? Because it was too damn interesting
@brendancorey78313 жыл бұрын
I think the watch would turn ben into a more powerful alien than Saiki if its in master control, as basically ben would think "alien to defeat alien x", as that's what Saiki sounds like. Saiki's feats seem at least similar
@pokeboy19813 жыл бұрын
2:55 you named deku’s quirk wrong, it’s called One For All not all for one
@asrieldreemurr0073 жыл бұрын
poor maya... i feel the persona 5 topic and then getting told to sftu
@MixedContentMaster2 жыл бұрын
*OK, THIS. WAS. EPIC! Awesome debate, I was really invested in it. Make more of this please!*
@tetrobro51823 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna feature the characters arguing for themselves but this is way better.
@biomecraft3562 жыл бұрын
This debate was actually pretty scientific. I enjoyed it.
@cringeman90193 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t Ben just turn into Kirby and goku? Cause they’re aliens, and the watch thing (I can’t spell it) turns Ben into aliens. So Kirby and goku are done for right out the gate.
@wackyhobopizzaguy92693 жыл бұрын
Argubly, but Saiyan Ben wouldn't be as strong. Ssj3 is strongest natural Saiyan form, so he would be only that.
@anacromacia3 жыл бұрын
@@wackyhobopizzaguy9269 maybe ultimatrix, but that shouldn’t count since the function was a one off
@TwilightFlower93 жыл бұрын
@@wackyhobopizzaguy9269 Strongest Ben could pull off would likely be SSJ1 since that form's the only one anyone can take the stamina drain of without immense training. Took Goku like 12 years of 24/7 Super Saiyan training to reach SSJ3 (though Gotenks did it in like a day without going SSJ2 first, so). If the omnitrix lets him go to the strongest form, then SSJ3, _maybe_ SSJ4 or Golden Great Ape (both from GT) would be the strongest he could do. Also, since SSJ is a _multiplier_, it would depend what his base power as a Saiyan would end up being. Then Goku goes SSJG and uses him as a mop since... god level.
@sirkillalot98923 жыл бұрын
But most of Kirby and Goku's greatest abilities were learnt or required outside sources. Ben can only copy Goku's base strength and up to SS3, an ant compared to god forms. Kirby still has plenty of copy abilities and equipment.
@mormalnam53843 жыл бұрын
@@TwilightFlower9 wasn't the omnitrix built in with like a thing where it allows a million years of training? Also hard to say whether the omnitrix would be able to even go ozaruu in the first place because goku as a power level of like 10 was able to use it via the moon and not transformation via emotions.
@AverageJoeMama3 жыл бұрын
If I may throw a chaotic wrench into this... I’d like to mention Megaman.exe, who can apparently do an extreme variety of things, such as: - disable other programmed weapons - use abilities that basically make him invulnerable - travel the speed of light multiplied by a number with 60 zeroes - destroy (and I think create as well) universes in a matter of seconds, if not less than one Plus, he basically defied death itself (albeit not on his own, but still did nonetheless).
@virustheglitch98364 ай бұрын
I like seeing the guys argue about inane shit like this. Really makes them relatable in my opinion. Keep up the good work
@webkarma96542 жыл бұрын
You forgot Frisk and Chara, who are literally immortal, and Sans, who can teleport to dodge almost anything and his attacks are scaled by how many his opponent has killed, which would make it extremely strong against many of these powerhouses that have killed more than anyone knows
@eimerhegel4273 жыл бұрын
GER: I see no god.. *other than me* TW:OH: move, I'm the new god in deep, we all know, Giorno is the strongest character in JJBA canon, and TW:OH in EoH
@Solesteam3 жыл бұрын
Kirby's strongest attack matches Saitama's strongest defense. Kirby split a planet with a punch, Saitama blocked a planet destroying lazer, Saitama would win by a thin hair since kirby can take a lethal attack from another kirby mostly unharmed. key word: mostly. enough punches from another kirby would ki him, as for Saitama, he was unharmed from the lazer, as much as I hate to admit it, kirby wo- wait I think kirby survived something worse though... I'm not sure though, all this is just from memory of what I've seen of the two.
@avocadeous3 жыл бұрын
Well it depends what we’re going off here. I’m triple deluxe, with the power of the hyper fruit thing, Kirby inhaled lazers. In planet robobot, kirby destroyed a robot that threatened to kill all life in the universe using meta knight’s halberd and his suit. Hell, he’s even stopped lazers from a planet destroying god using only the power of friendship. Not to mention that he’s completely erased some people from existence by killing them twice. If we’re going base Kirby then he’d lose. But if he has his friends (at the very least) he’d put up a good fight. This reminds me of the paper Mario vs saitama argument lol
@Solesteam3 жыл бұрын
@@avocadeous Technically all the kirby games have 1 continuing cannon so... I guess with his friends he'd be able to win, by a pretty decent margin... At least until the creators of One Punch Man decide to make Saitama canonically smack a universe out of existence. Now about Mario... I know Mario is pretty durable he might be able to stand his ground against him, but in terms of strength, he'd be incredible only in the real world, at least from all the knowledge I have of him, he seems like his strength would be pitiful or average compared to other fictional characters... Besides his legs, his jumps are insane relative to his chubby body.
@avocadeous3 жыл бұрын
@@Solesteam yeah. I reckon it probably depends on who has plot armour. The guy is called one punch man for a reason so I reckon it depends on who attacks first because both have devastating attacks. I doubt saitama would be able to stop a laser beam that has killed a galaxy destroyer’s soul but on the other side of the table, Kirby and his friends definitely wouldn’t be able to withstand a punch from him since I’m pretty sure he punched the moon out at some point. The thing with paper Mario is that in one of his games he had the ability to negate all damage and deal 1 damage to the opponent if B was pressed 3 or less frames before the attack hits. That was what sparked friction between the people alongside the Crystal stars, star spirits and pure hearts. (basically Mario’s chaos emeralds)
@Solesteam3 жыл бұрын
@@avocadeous That's terrifyingly overpowered
@jaoofy2 жыл бұрын
hed still win, he has 6 lives and no matter how much force he puts in the punch he can only take away 1 before the kicks in and kirby eats him
@brycebetz14633 жыл бұрын
“Za warldo”
@sanstheskeleton98743 жыл бұрын
Gorudo expiriensu requiem
@johinyamericano95623 жыл бұрын
this was so funny and I didn't know about objetion.lol! you got a new sub
@webkarma96542 жыл бұрын
And then there's JoJo and One Piece characters who have such OP abilities like stopping time, becoming literally untouchable, having the Universe try to kill anyone following them, turn anything into a bomb, reverse time, reset the universe, turn anyone into a toy, see the future, and more.
@Osama_Rashid6 ай бұрын
With all due respect, Ben still solos.
@Poketom-ob1dl3 жыл бұрын
Kirby can bat an asteroid 9999 light years away in 30 seconds. Even if you don’t include his warp star, Kirby wins hands down
@rhett50583 жыл бұрын
I feel like saitama would win if he didn’t need air and could fly
@Lonk29762 жыл бұрын
@@rhett5058 ah, yes, and a Goomba could also win if we made it a God, have every type of immortality, outerversal AP, and infinite speed, but we aren't doing that, are we?
@NikkiG11342 жыл бұрын
@@rhett5058 Ah yes....put Saitama against someone who literally cant die and is stronger than a fat penguin who can lift multiple stars
@ctoosav40403 жыл бұрын
With Steve having cheats, he could easily win
@Bazingazazinga2 жыл бұрын
With the player having cheats* btw steve ain't the one in creative its the player
@gigachad2512 жыл бұрын
@@Bazingazazinga you do realize that every skin in minecraft is steve redesigned skin, and if this doesn't change your mind, I can just use steve skin and name myself steve and go creative mode and use cheats
@lilsavage99462 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad251 This applies to literally every game. If I'm playing GTA and using cheat codes to make myself invincible, does it mean that the character I'm playing as, canonically has the ability to literally go invincible at any time? No, its a cheat for a game, not something the character can just do, otherwise it wouldn't be called a "cheat". And that's just for GTA, a game with official cheat codes, this argument can apply to literally every video game since every game has glitches, cheats, and bugs to a certain extent. I don't know why for Minecraft that you guys want to act like video game logic/mechanics are things that the character canonically does. Its the equivalent to playing a game, setting the difficulty to the easiest option where everything dies in one hit and then going "this character can just one shot Goku because he has the ability to kill everything in one hit". Wait no its even worse, its like going to the "free mode" option and saying "yeah this character can basically do anything, he solos lol"
@gigachad2512 жыл бұрын
@@lilsavage9946 The difference in minecraft is that the cheats are also called by commands, but they are considered cheats, because if you're playing in survival (which as you know is meant to be you trying to survive with no cheating, as I believe atleast) it will be considered cheating, but if your playing in creative it's not considered cheating, also people have an actual reason for why they say "Steve is stronger than goku" even tho it always incounters "steve can hold universes with ease" which I don't believe will do that much, but I have some reasons for why I believe he can beat goku (Ig)
@lilsavage99462 жыл бұрын
@@gigachad251 The point is that its not canon and not something Steve actually can do, commands are things that *you* as a player type in. Its like saying if you can pause a game then that means your character has the ability to stop time. Creative Mode is also not something Steve canonically has, so that's not a valid reason either. The greatest canon feat that Steve has, is defeating the Ender Dragon, which compared to the other characters, isn't much.
@duster5753 жыл бұрын
Here's how Ben wins: Ben goes alien x. Ben as alien x blinks. Boom everyone's dead. That's it
@SurfRaichu3 жыл бұрын
he doesn't actually have to blink lol, that was an example but yeah he can just wipe 'em out. especially post OV where he has full control over his celestialsapien form
@pamelaacuna91823 жыл бұрын
steve: breh i can even respawn
@SurfRaichu3 жыл бұрын
@@pamelaacuna9182 so can Ben in the videogames, so can anyone in the videogames.
@1manApocalypse_CP2 жыл бұрын
This is a better Ben 10 death battle than the actual death battle.
@NikkiG11342 жыл бұрын
Kirby is immune to that
@cold_water14532 жыл бұрын
The amount of objections is enough to give some elepsi
@1manApocalypse_CP2 жыл бұрын
Infinity war is the most ambitious crossover. This video: hold my beer.
@stickerzazaofficial11543 жыл бұрын
Rimuru can easily defeats all of them. (i'm talking about light novel version) He became an ultimate that can literally do anything , he literally can creates an alternate universes (AUS) he basically not universal level but a freaking MULTIVERSAL LEVEL.
@stickerzazaofficial11543 жыл бұрын
@a bum i'm talking about Rimuru Ultimate Slime (Light Novel Manga Version)
@ajplayer2213 жыл бұрын
Yeah, totally
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
@@stickerzazaofficial1154 Rimuru is multivesal level but Alien X is an existence outside the multiverse and time itself
@stickerzazaofficial11542 жыл бұрын
@@paracame8162 wait really?
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
@@stickerzazaofficial1154 yes. Alien X, while is shown to be in the regular universe, is an entity which exists outside the regular reality, shown by others of his species being in the "forge of creation", an area which is outside the omniverse and any timeline. Alien X is also nigh omnipresent, existing in every point in time at the same time. When a Ben, be it present or future transforms, the Alien X they turn into is the same one as the other. It's quite a mind fuck to think about tbh
@uglyhorseE3 жыл бұрын
Okay, but can't Steve just respawn? Isn't that one of his abilities? He isn't on hardcore or anything.
@SCP-ye3zl2 жыл бұрын
@Epik but their point is a point, so their point technically has a point, making it not pointless
@memelurd73412 жыл бұрын
@Epik despite that, hp is relative The only example I can think of is half a heart is equal to multiple health points in a super star style Kirby game
@T.Gundham2 жыл бұрын
I mean cant any video game character? Which is literally everyone named in this video except maybe Saiki?
@Regirock_official2 жыл бұрын
Kirby can respawn also
@T.Gundham2 жыл бұрын
@@Regirock_official Exactly was I was saying.
@pokemine25283 жыл бұрын
Info: Kirby canonicaly has Infinite power
@ssmarton3 жыл бұрын
Oh god i imagine how powerfull he came get
@jazzbassoonguy3 жыл бұрын
Best part is, It's canonically still growing past infinity
@joshuahoefler12442 жыл бұрын
Ailen x destroyed a universe with a thought but Kirby killed a god who destroyed a universe by just waking up I don’t know who would win either Ben 10 or Kirby
@RocketWizard20753 жыл бұрын
What if we include the Steve from the how much Can Steve lift game theory video as his version in this
@sillysiblings48342 жыл бұрын
“Kirby is what?,like seven?” Me a kirby fan who remembers its 30:
@aperson60863 жыл бұрын
Goku is multiversal, Naruto is planatary and so is saitama and saitama aint gag could he would have beat all his opponents with one normal punch, he needed a serious punch with the robot mf
@PinkOrangeOrangePink3 жыл бұрын
Mr Rogers in a blood stained sweater beats any animu or videojuego in a showdown just putting it out there
@Itselijahbruh3 жыл бұрын
very easy answer, ben wins
@Lonk29762 жыл бұрын
Actually, it's a coin flip between Ben and Kirby, don't underestimate my cute pink blob
@Itselijahbruh2 жыл бұрын
@@Lonk2976 Kerby can't do anything
@paracame81622 жыл бұрын
@@Itselijahbruh Kirby has defeated gods and canonically has infinited power. Kirby is definitely one of the strongest here
@NikkiG11342 жыл бұрын
@@Itselijahbruh Kirby is immune to reality manipulation and Erasure abilities. Kirby can also copy alien X and out last Ben.
@breadisyummy_2 жыл бұрын
The common arguments are already the best
@digiwolfbyte80172 жыл бұрын
I just binged several of these videos today and have subscribed