The Hidden TRUTH Behind Gender Dysphoria and Irreversible Choices - Bob Withers

[@ameliereinhart9482]

His description of the transference/countertransference incident makes total sense. I always assumed it is an unconscious trauma playing out and they try to heal it with altering the body.

[@Anne_Onymous]

Watching medicine get hijacked by political activism has been very disheartening. I know the science community has always had its issues, but I just hoped we were a bit smarter than that and had learned better.

[@Gingerblaze]

Unfortunate that James Caspian was prevented from doing research on detransitioners by Bath.

[@River10081]

I’m wondering if kids with gender dysphoria are screened for DSDs (intersex conditions). Genetics, hormones, internal anatomy. It seems like a logical and medically sound place to start.

[@liberality]

Almost certainly not, given the brevity of the assessments.

[@janebennetto5655]

Thank you KZbin for putting the Trevor Project advert on as it ALERTS us sex-realist people that this is an excellent, science-based and measured talk. ❤️🇬🇧❌❌

[@MJ-bn9hz]

“Lived experience” and the use of “self-report” are overvalued measures unless combined with a thorough investigation of the context along with objective evidence Just like the “voice of the child” they have a role but are not a reliable measure on which to make decisions or to form policy

[@tubester4567]

I agree, particularly when we already have decades of statistics and outcomes. They show MtF trans are the most at risk demographic for health issues and early death. Very high rates of drug addiction, HIV, really high rates of death from domestic violence, over 50% of early deaths is from domestic violence.. Trans people have much shorter lifespans by 20+ years. One ethnic minority in the US has an over 50% HIV rate for trans and even gay males. Theres already a lot of evidence and statistics, but the whole point of affirm only treatment is to not tell them about it.

[@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals]

Bob Withers probably knows other detransitioners besides Sam Kaye, formerly "Maya" for 25 years, who were cited as case studies by Blanchard, et al. We must find out how many case studies patients detransitioned. These "researchers" must publish retractions if their subject detransitioned. Bob Withers had said Sam Kaye was cited by the ^ above "et al" back in 1990s.

[@Gingerblaze]

Many may come to understand that socially, medically and surgically modifying their sex traits and presentation was not ideal nor did it actually alleviate their GD, but remain stuck with the irreversible physical effects. So while they may have psychologically become disenchanted with their "transition", detransitioning may be a concept they may never have considered. Add to that, the fact that for most, the medical aspects of detransition are not covered by insurance, and there is no medical protocol for detransition, it may well actually BE impossible. Then there is the high number who are lost to follow up, or who take their lives as a result of continued poor mental health, who may continue to be counted as "successful" transitioners by these studies.

[@HimmelsDaemon]

All the people that hold Blanchard like a savior because some of his ideas appease their bias for every problem being fetishism despite abetting the subversion things are in, having never made distinctions or dissented from conflation and postmodern reconstruction, and in past years kept around as faux-opposition is very frustrating.

[@liberality]

​@@HimmelsDaemon Would you care to expand on that?

[@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals]

@@HimmelsDaemon I am also frustrated with the lack of mind/body connection through movement in the lectures of Withers and Dr. Stephen B. Levine. Someone has to go the distance and truly help the confused patients to regain their connection to a strong and coordinated physicality. I see Primal Fitness as an ideal program for males and my own wellness movements program at Trans Widow Ute Heggen yt chan for females. It's truly a deficit in these presentations.

[@Dmoney-z9c]

​@@liberalityExpand on what? The comment is totally incoherent - just a piggybank's worth of ten-cent words

[@bikeracerdude]

Objective medical facts are being revealed.

[@rubydunaimangold938]

reminded me of my first newborn child. I breastfed her, but I had more pain on one breast due to clogged milk duct. My infant started refusing that side and I think she was picking up on my tension and pain on that side, which of course made the clogged duct worse. I had to force myself to relax and ignore the pain in order to get her to nurse on that side.

[@sandarahcatmom9897]

Such an interesting presentation, thank you for bringing the unconscious mind back into the discussion of human endeavors and distinguishing so articulately the difference between lived experience and expertise. They are both important and neither should totally dominate the other, nor be discarded in exclusion.

[@Gingerblaze]

Excellent question from the audience member at the end.

[@user-rv7ph1jl5y]

Excellent talk! Where can we hear more? Could GENSPECT include links to all of the speakers?

[@user-rv7ph1jl5y]

His discussions here and elsewhere touch on what my concern was with my own family member at the outset, that of attachment and dissociation. How can one see trans ID without this concern and his reminder of this perspective is helping me to reconsider my stance that reality focused comments when in discussion with them is helpful. It is def not and is creating bigger gaps between us. How can a parent address bringing any conscious awareness to whats really going on? Does anyone have more info?

[@liberality]

@@user-rv7ph1jl5y You could try a psychotherapist specialising in attachment theory. Are you in the UK?

[@johnbrown4568]

Excellent presentation here from an analytical perspective. Thank you for posting.

[@BillKing8888]

Could anyone tell me what "disregulating" (19:11) means? I cannot understand the definition provided by Google. Thanks.

[@RaineyShiney]

Google AI gives a good synopsis: Dysregulation is a condition that can refer to the inability to control emotions or a process in the body that is not functioning normally. Emotional dysregulation is a mental health symptom that makes it difficult to manage emotions and reactions. People with emotional dysregulation may experience intense emotions for longer periods of time, and their reactions may seem disproportionate to the situation. This can lead to behavioral dysregulation, such as self-injury, impulsivity, or excessive substance use. Emotional dysregulation can be caused by many things, including trauma, ADHD, or not learning how to regulate emotions as a child. It can affect relationships, work, school, and daily life. Biological dysregulation is a condition where a process in the body is not functioning normally. For example, neuro immune diseases can be caused by dysregulation of the immune and nervous systems.

[@FirehorseG]

I've always thought this was mental/emotional health issues. Possibly trauma of some sort.

[@tinabenson1492]

Interesting!

[@GarryWikkerink]

Do You as Person / Spirit using Brain / Body can imagine and dream and move and work here on Earth ?

[@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904]

28:59 🚬Torches of freedom. Bernays:

[@davehall8584]

eh? Intersex states?....no such thing.

[@Messier45_Pleiades]

I'm not impressed by this man. He's rambling nonsense.

[@pepepistola9258]

Well, let's be honest, you were impressed, and that was why you needed to comment negatively on the man and this particular video: most likely something he said hurt you personally and you needed to act it out.

[@Messier45_Pleiades]

@pepepistola9258 Who made you a psychologist? I am entitled my opinion. The man is rambling nonsense. And so are you.

[@Berlinetta-h7p]

I listened to the entire talk, he made perfect sense to me.

[@lindarosa7707]

“Rambling nonsense” is a fair description of Freudian/Jungian pseudoscience. Their notion of the unconscious and buried trauma are no longer accepted as they lack good evidence, but they persist in popular culture. Worse is the speaker’s claim that trauma must be re-experienced to be resolved, as this belief has lead to horrific abuse, especially of adopted children who are assumed to have experienced trauma in infancy and in utero (“Attachment Therapy”).

[@ellyk8834]

Your inability to understand does not denote a lack of intelligence on his end...

[@Selmamander]

👁️👁️

[@davidanderson9664]

Sorry - you lost me at "Freud" and homeopathy. The latter is a deal breaker. Any mention thereof. D.A., J.D., NYC

[@jamesmeacham1305]

He says he came to believe that homeopathy was a placebo effect. And why is Freud in scare quotes?

[@guernica69]

Lol, someone simply says the word 'homeopathy' and you're out, even though he specifically called it a placebo? 😂 Your loss, pal

[@joane24]

So, you're supporting homeopathy or a 'magnetic healing' (or whatever other esoteric thing he mentioned)?