Detrans Awareness Day Webinar 2022 - Helena

[@laurab7221]

Thank you, thank you Helena. You are describing my early 20s with scary, precise insight, I’ve never heard this talked about before. I am 100% sure that the rapid onset gender dysphoria I experienced during that time was triggered and enhanced by obsessive M/M fandom - in the context of depression, anxiety, unemployment and a mentally abusive relationship. I got to the point of binders, packers, male clothing, cutting my hair, telling my poor parents I was ‘genderqueer’. I looked like hell, and I felt it, but I see now that I desperately wanted the love I read about for 6+ hours a day in fanfiction. I am so sad for the young woman that I was, running from her gender. I’m now nearly 30 and a happy, straight woman. Teenagers these days have even less chance than I did. Please keep talking about this.

[@marshmallow8234]

She's a liar I know them everything she says is lies

[@derekb4977]

@@marshmallow8234 no you are homophobic.

[@shonabeggs4640]

Hi, thank you for your comment, I'm so glad you didn't mutilate yourself. I just wondered if you might give more information about your life leading up to you making changes to your body?. What type of child you were, quiet, bookish, introvert etc and how you matured, whether the person you were as a child is much the same as you are now. I think the more info we can gather from people may help us to look for signs and prevent young people going down the permanent surgery route. I completely understand if you don't want to discuss more, I hope I've not upset you by asking, it's not my intent.

[@phillippenna5558]

Brilliant! at every level: the personal insight, the critique of the medical system, the social dynamics, and the expression of moral outrage, compassion and hope. Thank you and God bless you.

[@sheeplenk]

Respect all of you for speaking out. Thank you for sharing.

[@jenniferd2875]

My daughters pediatrician, therapist and psychiatrist have all pushed me to only affirm and not ask her to wait or to be patient with her own development as a person. Also I think we are seeing a huge spike in girls becoming trans since Covid and the isolation that caused.

[@riotgrrrl]

This makes me want to become a specialised therapist / counsellor for detrans people. I mean holy hell, the whole world needs it so desperately.

[@K_F_P]

Helena is so articulate!

[@snorgonofborkkad]

She’s a credit to her sex.

[@royalchen2361]

I'm a gay male that has grown around these Tumblr communities, and at first I never really had a problem with it because I liked a lot of the content that was produced, but that was up until a lot of these women started to project fantasy onto reality. In some twisted way, a lot of these gay relationships became incredibly heteronormative. A lot of the fandom today have been heavily inspired by yaoi (Japanese media revolving around gay relationships; made by woman for woman.) The typical role in these relationships are seme and uke. Seme being the top or the masculine one and uke being the bottom and the feminine one. So it ends up being a very false idea that is completely unlinked from the gay experience.

[@alanyurkevicius7373]

Thanks You for this webinar!

[@kasejalaurinewilder]

This is a great series, thanks for being so brave as to tell your stories and reach out into the community with some push back to the dominant narrative. As a therapist that would love to hold more space for folks who want to ask more questions in this milieu, it feels sad (but so totally real) to hear that detransitioners don't feel they can trust therapists. I wonder how this barrier can be addressed? Therapists, social workers, psychiatrists, educators are all getting the same pressure to "gender affirm"; but we have not all bought into this paradigm!

[@twocanplay7976]

As always, thank you for your insight Helena!

[@marshmallow8234]

She's a liar I know them

[@derekb4977]

@@marshmallow8234 your lying I know where you live if you don't stop your homophobic TQ+ nonsense cult I will post your home address all over Twitter.

[@leila466]

Thank you 🙏

[@Sarah-lv6ms]

8:36 As a bisexual ex fujoshi (aka I read a whole lot of m/m erotic fanfiction) I think part of it was wanting to dissociate myself and my female body from the sex I was reading about, because the idea of being the one penetrated was really scary to me. I didn't want to read m/f erotic fanfic and project onto a female character. Maybe this was partially because of the abusive porn I was exposed to as a young kid, where a woman being penetrated was also being violated and degraded. I'm not sure what exactly caused this. But I still feel disgust at being a part of that dynamic (being penetrated) and as I grow into my physical sexuality, being connected to my body, and being sexual in the real world, I'm primarily interested in sexual relationships with women where that is not an issue.

[@Gingerblaze]

Helenas path to trans identifying is shared by a great number of diseffected young girls. Being online for this amount of time is increasing for young people as there is less opportunity to access real life community that they feel welcome in.(another form of this is happening for young boys) Indeed, very few real life youth activities that are free and accessible, even exsist. This has been a growing problem for over 20yrs. It has escalated significantly in the past 10yrs.

[@zoesilva9558]

What Helena is saying about online culture is accurate and extremely important, but it will likely only be heard as right-wing talking points and transhate because of the platforms she's using. She's still extremely young, and I wish more seasoned activists had counseled her not to go on Tucker Carlson or Ben Shapiro. You're not protecting teenager girls if you're accepting the far right as bedfellows, and I'm inclined to dismiss, distrust and distance myself from any community that would do that.

[@elizabethwhite1068]

This is a really important point. I'm struggling with it a bit myself as someone's who's been a lifelong liberal and lesbian (Carol's story was especially affecting), now finding myself agreeing with people who keep turning out to be typical hard right a-holes. It's been very disconcerting. But I'm starting to try to carve out a place in the center, where I focus on the actual, thoughtful reality as described by everyone in this video. On one side I've run out of patience with the misogynistic gaslighting that has become so prevalent from the over enthusiastic left, but on the other side I will always be sickened by the right wing mindset of just mocking and hating everything and everyone who isn't them. So now I take the time to see who someone is before I agree with something they say. I also check if they use something I post, because I will not be used by the right that way. Let the name calling from both sides commence. I think there needs to be a shift to more people applying more nuanced critical thinking to what has become a tragic mess in many ways. The utter lack of professionalism and patient care from the medical/therapy community is absolutely stunning.

[@Ng-zg4dq]

🙏

[@delphoeneevenhuis5199]

I 1st heard "ship" used in that way by Chris Chan, so struggling to control the cringe!

[@lydiam9323]

Pure Evil being done to our children.

[@marshmallow8234]

HELEANA STOP LYING.

[@derekb4977]

No you are a lying and you are homophobic.

[@lydiam9323]

Troll

[@derekb4977]

@@lydiam9323 yeah the TRA activists can't handle the truth they want all kids to get surgery and drugs to appear like the opposite it's one of the biggest cults in human history.

[@jcimsn8464]

Open your eyes

[@jenniferd2875]

Thank you.