20 cars for £2,000. Why spend more? feat. EV Carnage

[@steve3cv]

Bought a 2009 Mercedes c220 diesel for £3.5k. Has a full Mercedes-Benz service history, 110k on the clock, auto with air con, leather etc. 55mpg and I feel like I've been given a peerage. Looks mint. Love it, oh and £180 a year fully comp. Keep up the good work.

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@AndyM-s8p A 20 year old ICE car is still good for another 5 years. No EV will last more than 10 years. That's the point you've clearly missed. There is no second hand EV market.

[@AndyM-s8p]

@@andrewwaller5913 Of course EVs run for more than 10 years. There are 61 Nissan Leaf for sale on Autotrader registered from 2011 to 2014 and 15 Tesla from 2012-2014. It’s just BS that they don’t last more than 10 years. A high proportion of ICE cars are scrapped before they’re 20 years old. And don’t bother responding with ‘my mate’s EV was scrapped after 5years’, because my mate’s BMW engine blew up within 10 years and the car was scrapped, but that doesn’t extrapolate to all BMW engines are scrap within 10 years. Just like 1 bad EV experience doesn’t mean they’re all crap. There seems to be a thriving second hand market for EVs (nearly 23000 available on Autotrader), and it’ll only improve as more are available and they get older, and cheaper.

[@andrewwaller5913]

@@AndyM-s8p Nobody wants an old Nissan Leaf. They're crap 🤣

[@AndyM-s8p]

@@andrewwaller5913 lets not bother with crap car top trumps, so many crap petrol cars to choose from, and I’ve owned a few of them (several no longer on the road at less than 20 years old). More importantly, why was my previous post deleted, are the facts too much for someone to handle? Anyway, I’ve reported you for spreading misinformation.

[@AndyM-s8p]

@@andrewwaller5913 I get it now, anyone who disagrees with the BS narrative of this channel gets their posts deleted.

[@leonardgoldberg2879]

Just picked up an Astra H for £850. 70,000 miles , 12 months MOT. I don't like spending more than a grand for a car.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Good buy, you can't really go far wrong with an astra, kinda boring but they do the job

[@andyxox4168]

20 cars for £2,000 … that’s £100 each 😂😂😂

[@angelakenyon7490]

Belingo for me😊 Thanks Geoff and Tony , entertaining 😊☀️

[@briankinder9292]

Not the Belingo, the Peugeot Partner Escopade, same body but 15 inch wheels, raised suspension, sump guard, stone guards on lights, 2 litre HDi around 65 mpg, has real attitude. Bought a 2003 one in 2006, with aircon and cruise control, still going strong with only routine services.

[@kevinmott6205]

Geoff and Tony many many thanks, that was really good fun. Very entertaining😊😂

[@dortkommendieclowns1474]

My wife drives a 2.0 HDi Berlingo, she loves it.

[@Blitz9287]

I've just bought a 2007/56 66K Citroën C5 2.0HDi Auto with lots of service history for £2K.

[@timmehlittleloud2251]

Come on Geoff. Take the sils off the x-type. You will need to because it will be rusted through to nothing and obviously a dodgy MOT.

[@marks7471]

Camry is the winner. If you just want to drive it forever.

[@richardgarbett1633]

I found a Jaguar XF 3.0ds V6 luxury auto. 2010 plate, light blue with 129000 miles. Looks superb for the money.

[@waynetaylor3211]

Geoff we brought a mk3 2007 ford galaxy 2.0 tdci in black for £1500 best car I've ever owned.. fits the kids in powerful engine great on fuel average at 50mpg everything works best 7 seater ever

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Good choice that!

[@waynetaylor3211]

@@GeoffBuysCars thanks Geoff I really appreciate that 👍

[@JRM-VSR]

I've had nine years from my last £3K car purchase, and it's still going strong. However, I have a new travel requirement -- soon I'll be doing an additional 8000 miles a year in loads of repeated 10 mile journeys. Loads of short journeys are an absolute torture for a Diesel, OK in a Petrol, but the ideal duty for an EV. Right? Let's look at the costs. Roughly £1500 a year just in petrol for that one repeated journey. If I bought a cheap electric car just for local trips, about £300 a year in electricity, charged overnight at home. That assumes the battery is good for four ten mile trips a day without a recharge in between (which is not the same thing as a single forty mile journey). If not, and it needs a top up on day electricity rates, make that £650. From next year tax stops being free, and factor in an insurance policy for it too (over £500 per year as an additional car, although that may reduce over time as NCD builds up on the new policy). Once I filter out cars where you don't own the battery (what?), where the battery is already half dead, and ones which are actually a quadricycle and not a real car, it suddenly looks like a ~£5K purchase. The TCO is less for buying the petrol rather than the EV. To get an electric car that would do ALL the work the current car is expected to handle (so it can be completely replaced) saving it's tax and allowing the insurance NCD to transfer is more like £12K-£15K purchase. And sure enough the economics don't work there either. Would I like an electric car? Sure. But the economics are in favour of keeping the car I have and just feeding it more fuel.

[@19jacobob93]

The best cars I've found for under £2k are the first gen Peugeot 308 SW wagons! I've had 2 now... The first was a 2008 2.0 HDi manual that was written off, which I then replaced with a 2011 2.0 HDi auto. 7 seats but with all 5 removable rear seats out and the front passenger seat folded flat, there's nothing I haven't been able to fit in it! I have a 2m basket for the roof as they have the rack bars as standard too. Both gladly achieve well over 50mpg mixed driving, both bloody bulletproof mechanically, and they never rust. They are more practical than my old Berlingo and the rear suspension tends not to collapse, although I did prefer the higher van-like driving position. I absolutely can't fault them hence why I replaced the first one with the same!

[@kellyeye7224]

Five years ago I paid £150 (plus a curry) for an '05 Mazda 2, petrol 1.4 with 32k on the clock. It needed new brakes all round but since then has required only the engine core plugs changed (£2.50). Wouldn't part with it for any price.

[@cutedgehouse]

Can’t go wrong having Tony steal the show.

[@zubeystinzen540]

Tony the 159 is the drivers car,the only car i owned & regretted selling it immediately.once driven forever smitten 😂

[@G58]

That Alfa upset me. I’ve never desired any Alfa other than the original $€>

[@kevinmott6205]

I love my Adam Jam 9 years old 24000 genuine miles. ❤

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I like the Adam actually

[@teatimetel174]

i bought a 2010 renault 1.5 dci 83500 in dec 23 straight through mot and now its on 97067 miles changed oil twice and its never missed a beat..costing me £475

[@bignormy]

745 is a v8, 32v AND ULEZ compliant :)

[@matthewstone1920]

Which would you choose... As an Alfa man has to be the 159. Best looking saloon ever made with the possibly exception of the none facelift 156

[@v285ljx]

159 way better looking than the 156 and yes i own a 159👍and previously owned a 156

[@boatman909]

You two are most entertaining and informative. Keep it up. 😊

[@maximiliaan-fd8qd]

Great duo ,more of this!greetings from Vlaanderen

[@lint8391]

Berlingo beats the Wind, for me. Doblo vs Alfa 159 2.4 diesel? I'd take either, or both. I'd take the Jag Diesel. As I've already had a Rover 75 Estate, and it was disappointingly unreliable with annoying things like fuel leaks. MX-5. I'd take the 320D over the 745i to keep fuel and insurance and maintenance costs down. Both are nice cars. For under £2000 I'd go for a Swedish car. A Volvo S60 or V70 with a manual box and the 163HP D5 non-DPF engine. Reliable, safe, comfortable, OK to drive, long lasting, reasonable MPG.

[@user-jy8iv3ux2e]

Dont worry about your weight, its the person inside, and if your friend of Geoffs then you gotta be ok, thanks again, always enjoy the light heartedness, thanks guys ❤

[@Lexington125]

Great content . Said it before you guys should do a ULEZ compliant cheap cars segment for us lot stuck inside the 25, don’t get me wrong it’s quicker walking but I think it would be interesting . All the best !

[@bignormy]

Can’t believe you missed the 2002 Laguna 3litre for £1600.

[@dcarbs2979]

I've recently been on the hunt for a car (preferably Jag) with a £4k budget. There were many S-types and X-types for little over £2k that could be negotiated to the budget. There is a good X-type estate in Essex for £2 with manual and 3.0 V6. I wanted to go a bit older, so I got an X300 with 82k for £3k very locally. The extra was worth it for the local convenience and more preferred older car (and lower tax class).

[@ericdunn555]

Love the X300, esp with straight six 4.0L engine. Brilliant to drive - comfort & power. Less to go wrong, easier to maintain; I've had several - hope you enjoy yours as much as I've enjoyed mine.

[@rarevhsuploads4995]

I drive a V6 Rover 75 Tourer. They are rare with petrol engines on the estate model & the 2.0 engine is unusual with most being the 2.5. As for your choices I’d actually go with Geoff’s X-Type Jaguar here, that was a nice looking example although I’d prefer an estate if looking for myself. The MGF’s are very affordable classics & small enough that they squeeze on many a cramped driveway.

[@YegoYTP]

Heres a few I found French: 1999 Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe - £1400 Italian: 2007 Fiat Panda 100HP - £1200 British: 1996 Land Rover Discovery 2.5 TDi S - £1500 Japanese: 2001 Toyota Yaris T-Sport - £1395 German: 2001 BMW 330d SE Touring - £1995

[@cornovii3012]

Im looking for a car with a budget of £1000, for that im looking for a Citroen C1 around an 08 or 09. That will do me for 2 or 3 years and scrap it in for about £200 if it starts to fall apart.

[@p24hrsmith]

I had a MGF for 12 years and never had a headgasket go everything else went wrong but not that and I had a TF which I did a 5,000mile trip all around Europe in with no problems and as a tip I replaced the standard coolant on both cars with Water Forlife ... I now have a Berlingo 1.6D which is currently having a new turbo fitted which failed on my way to Scotland on holiday so I hate it

[@XclusiveAaron]

17:04 I've got a 645 with that engine absolutely brilliant!! It's a 4.4 V8 tho not a i6 👍

[@steven1515]

Love your conversation guys👏👍

[@wildthing6668813]

Best car I had was an Alpha Romeo 33 permanent 4. the claimed 0 -60 time was 8.1 seconds but when I tested it it got to 60 in 4.9 seconds so it was modified before I bought it but I never told the insurance company. Altough there still are Alpha 33's on the road there isn't one permanent 4 on the road today. I wish I had it repaired than selling it for spares or repair in 2007 for £150.

[@guy4469]

MY E38 Cost me £2800 spent that again on it but id go to morroco or norway in it now no problem .geoff has seen it .

[@daviddunmore8415]

Mine's a 2001 Honda Civic 1.6 SE Executive automatic bought six years ago with 72K on the clock. every bit as reliable as you'd expect. Cost: £1,400.

[@guy4469]

ive just bought a E60 535D ,SE for 2 grand and its on 86000 miles boy its mint its mad quick.

[@paulcostello1807]

They are mad quick but are they reliable???

[@zipazzz]

French - citroen ds3 thp 1.6 turbo petrol Italian - alfa 166 3.0 v6 petrol English - jaguar s type 3.0v6 German clk500 v8 Japanese Lexus is250 petrol

[@PaulTC777]

the PSA 1.6 sucks, its the same engine Minis Cooper S used to have

[@andybrowne2117]

Very funny , you two made me laugh !!!

[@mikestanley3219]

Hi Geoff. If you're serious about wanting a ramp, I've got two that need a good home.

[@paulriggers1558]

as a mechanic, the spares/repair sections are so tempting, my bargains are about 1k, or even less...

[@charlesnash8441]

Looking forward to this!

[@Janet-v7v]

I absolutely loved my MX5 I hated getting rid of it

[@bignormy]

2004 320 CLK petrol in silver £1999

[@GES196]

Very entertaining guys... enjoyed every moment of the banter between you :)

[@MCsmileyB]

I got a 2005 disco 3 for 400 off a mate and i love it. 300 to another mate to fix the electric handbrake and we got 12 mot on the beauty. Just need one of them " u can go fast, but i can go anywhere" bumper stickers now 😂

[@GeoffBuysCars]

and a 'one life, Geoff it'

[@roberthiggins6401]

Is that an oxymoron?... a waterproof rover!

[@mikefoley360]

745 - V8

[@fishtigua]

Predictable but the Alfa, that would be 7th or 8th owned, one a donor car. A tie for 2nd between the Jag X-type or the Doblo.

[@getouttamyrowboat5658]

I second the Renault Wind. Not for me but my girlfriend would look great in that thing and love every second and I'm sure I'd have a smile on my face if i had to drive it when the toof was down.

[@davidcook380]

Great Video Geoff

[@forrestrobin2712]

I like the Berlingo, but I’m not sure HubNut would agree 😂

[@giojohn9807]

I'd love to have an Alfa 159. Gorgeous , gorgeous car but I'm afraid of Alfa Reliability as I'd be driving it 5 days a week to and from work

[@jcfallows]

Hey🤔 Geoff Suzuki make some great cars! Hot off the press they are stopping selling all ice cars in the UK next year 2025 electric cars only oops! U wonder how many other major brands will stop selling ice because of the massive fines they will face. Second hand ice cars might go up in value for a year or two, what do you think?

[@roadracermark7946]

Defo do the Italian job road trip next year with Tony

[@peterhutton8687]

I like the male goldcrest singing in the background

[@davidevans7643]

Really enjoyed watching you too 😂😂😂😂

[@hamshackleton]

I've GOT a Berlingo! 10 plate, one owner from new, manual diesel, less than 31,000 on the clock, new cam-belt at 10 years, 12 months MOT. I'm not selling, but if repeat IF I was, what's it worth - just for curiosity?

[@GeoffBuysCars]

£8,000,000

[@BernardSamson-hf6fc]

£2250 will get you my wife;s R56 Mini Cooper D 2010, 85K fsh.

[@honorkemp]

if it has a ramp you will never have to sell it ,you will grow old with it and put the mobility scooter in the back. That is if the thing does not rust away first. No E Vs in the list.

[@fredfred2363]

I'm having a sense of deja-vu here. Have I already seen this vid, like two days ago?

[@GeoffBuysCars]

maybe on Tony's channel if you are subbed over there :-) my editing is different though

[@philhunt9297]

Fiat Doblo - had one brand new (motability [wheelchair ramp etc]) drove about 10 miles before tapping the rear lights of a vehicle in front [trying to change lanes in almost stationary traffic] - result one small scratch to other vehicle's rear left indicator light cover and the whole right hand side front panel [from bumper over wheel arch] looking like butter cut with one of those crinkle cutters or a crinkle cut chip bent and squeezed. Several weeks later became the first vehicle I owned to have the drivers door forced with a screwdriver for scum to nick the Sony radio/cd unit - probably stole the £60 Sony because they knew the Doblo wasn't worth taking.

[@Farney-gy1qo]

Since 2000(ish) All Renaults are PANTS!!!

[@WeAreAllDoomed-n5i]

Berlingo? Hub nut!

[@jo_clarke1960]

You have to do that with a mobility scooter, just for the sheer number of looks and hate you're going to get. Taking the pith out of all those who don't a tally need the damn things 👍

[@crazyforcars]

That weren't 20 cars...and the 745 of course is a V8 and not a streicht six. My personal overall winner is the 75.

[@snowboyben1978]

Greetings from Dublin

[@ericdunn555]

Greetings from Carlow 😂

[@RogerC596]

You guys just made me chuckle outloud.....YOU HAVE TO DO THE DOBLO ITALIAN JOB.

[@Brianrainbowsend]

Bought an £1800 R design Volvo S60 d5 last year at 194000.205bhp.passed,no advisory,mot.took it 2000 miles to Sicily and back 2000miles this year !spent €100 on a drive belt.47mpg. fantastic drive.. But your 2k cars is only a 'car' if it has an mot! Do a utube on cheaper car mot's??

[@amandawoodland3779]

This message is for everyone who loves old cars.... Check out the bearded explorer.... One of the biggest barn find ever, Wow just Wow you will be left speach less.

[@bignormy]

2004 Suzuki SX4 78000 miles, £1690 - are you fellas asleep??

[@GeoffBuysCars]

that's sensible!

[@skisavoie]

No, not a Renault. State owned rubbish! 🤢

[@Beauloqs]

.....i wonder what folk driving past you think, 'oh, lovers tiff'😂

[@MothershipVideos]

Entertaining.

[@nixswatson]

"Astonishing growth Rates!" pmsl 🤣😂🤣😂

[@LiverpoolGreg]

The Wind has shocking blind spots...

[@Dalbayob69]

For Japanese I would have chosen Lexus IS300, had one and wish I never sold it.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

not sure you can find one under budget!

[@Dalbayob69]

@@GeoffBuysCars true. Been a while since I checked how much they are. I bought mine on 54 plate for £1800, then the prices dropped and sold for £1600. At the time was looking to get IS300 Sportcross but they are so rare and needed estate asap so went back to Volvo.

[@v285ljx]

We own a 159 3.2 3.2 ti q4 VED £735 a year yet strangely ulez compliant, 16 mpg urban 30ish mpg on a motorway run proper car lol 😂

[@Brian.S0]

Tony smashed it what a great choice of 🚙 cars

[@charlesnash8441]

Saw this on Tony's site 👍

[@ketchmarkreviews7275]

Your battery is going to run out. Fun video.

[@COIcultist]

The Italian Job challenge. Geoff has a Diesel vehicle, the other contributor a battery electric. Same as all your challenges. I reckon Lee's nose will be put well out of joint if you stand him up and take your other friend on this escapade.

[@andynicoll8566]

745 Beamer

[@gilleyb1900]

I reckon Tone beat you on the car choices Geoff. Great vid.

[@charleslondon9900]

Very interesting. Jeff ignores Saab's 😂

[@GrahamA63]

Didn’t I watch this two days ago….

[@fredfred2363]

Yeah, me too. What's going on?

[@GeoffBuysCars]

@@fredfred2363 you watched it on Tony's channel.

[@rigavitch]

Does anyone know if Geoff has ever done a Motability car lease comparison?

[@toucheturtle3840]

Motability scooters is how they see us. Why do you think these 20 mph speed limits have been introduced?…We move too quickly for them. The snapshot they take gets internalised & before they know it, we have changed slightly. It’s very confusing for them.

[@GrahamA63]

Daughter looking for first car with motability - Yaris is the only one that makes financial sense for auto and it’s so over specced for 1st car…

[@iancrosby3475]

Does the wind come with a battery?

[@chrislomas9886]

Come on guys, who the fuck would drive around in a berlingo 😳I would sooner get on the bus..

[@waynep040]

Something I have learnt Geoff, you can’t polish a turd 😂

[@tonyperkins6925]

Berlingo

[@strongandco]

I can't believe how little you get for your money compared to 15 years ago. Using the Camry as an example, that's 26 years old, 15 years ago a 26 year old Toyota saloon would at a guess be a 400 quid on a good day...although to be fair most 52 year old Toyotas would have been rot boxes so my logic might be a little flawed 😄

[@James-um8pq]

Wait till you tax the 745

[@PaulCunningham-sf5pu]

Citroen all the way

[@simonk1025]

I knew you were going to say x type

[@billynomates920]

can i just have one for a hundred? thanks, fellas! 😄

[@Jason-gd4qr]

Mk8 civic diesel try and beat it...

[@thejamesieboy]

Berlingo just NO, would never touch one with a barge pole. Hate them and all those types of vehicles, why would you need so many cubby boxes just to fill with rubbish you don't really need. So to me you won that one. As for The MGF, Jaguar X Type and Rover 75 like them all, but X Type wins for me. Some say you can afford to buy old Jags, but they cost a fortune to run. My dad's current X Type a 2008 2.2 sovereign cost him £2000 last Feb and not a penny since except for the normal stuff all cars need tyres etc. To me was 4-1 to you, French, Brittish, German and Japan.