EV vs ICE #2 - Part 3 - Porsche Taycan EV vs Merc CLS320 Diesel

Part 3 is the big trip! The full thing from the top to the bottom of Wales.
A 200 mile road trip in the style of a Top Gear Challenge.
The top of Wales to the bottom of Wales, through 20mph speed limits...
Who will get there first, and who will spend the least...?
2020 Porsche Taycan EV vs
2006 Mercedes-Benz CLS 320 CDI.
Electric Power or V6 Diesel?
Part 1a - Northward Journey and The Lighthouse
• EV vs ICE #2 - Part 2 ...
Part 1b - Pre Trip Chat
• EV vs ICE #2 - Part 1 ...
Part 2 - The Full Trip
• EV vs ICE #2 - Part 3 ...
Part 3 - The Verdict Chat
• EV vs ICE #2 - Part 4 ...
Part 4 - Outtakes
#TopGear #TopGearChallenge #EV #GeoffBuysCars

[@johnthomson3225]

Nobody is speaking about DPF filters on diesel cars. They are going to be a real problem with the 20 MPH limits.😢

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

they can't stop talking about it on facebook groups

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

I have been raising this issue on many many videos on KZbin.

[@GT380man]

It’s intentional.

[@chriswalford9228]

Just send the council the bill for the re gen of, or purchase of a new one like you can do for pot hole damage to your tyres and suspension

[@Denise-vn8wz]

@@chriswalford9228 Great idea.

[@keegan773]

£800 for that vehicle. The Porsche lost that in devaluation during the road trip.

[@MrDakkyz]

Cars are made for driving yes.

[@giorgosa]

I do 300 miles in my EV, charging @home with £4.50. Please continue paying your fuel duty. Much appreciated

[@giorgosa]

@@shivadow wow it seems that you are driving more than 110k miles per year then, how you have time to watch KZbin videos mate…

[@giorgosa]

@@shivadow 400 miles? Easy. Did last summer in France. You stop for a coffee and in 30 minutes you are at 80% again….

[@Renegade1127]

@@giorgosa I call BS on that. At 30p per kw/h that just 15kw. Are you charging a Go-Ped ?

[@Lot76CARS]

The ill advised 20mph limit could potentially get even worse as there is an idea circulating that buses could travel at 30mph to improve the service😂. What happens if a bus is behind a car doing 20 mph, will buses be overtaking cars? FFS, utter nonsense! However, a great bit of content once again, loving it GBC!

[@robredz]

That's only for bus lanes not many of those outside Cardiff. Oh and cyclists can ride in bus lanes and are not subject to any 20mph

[@bobstirling6885]

Only on dedicated bus lanes ...

[@lparky4409]

​@@robredzMy nephew was cycling on a rather hilly road, as he went downhill he triggered a police speed camera at the bottom as he was over 30mph, lol.

[@robredz]

@@lparky4409 They can't do anything speed limit not applicable to pedal cycles.

[@lparky4409]

@@robredz The police were a bit dumbfounded I believe at the time at the speed!

[@SW-ci9zv]

LOVED your response to the KAREN at Tesco - had quite a few Karens asking / telling me about my lack of a mask during that time when there was supposed to be "something in the air"!!!

[@FrankTimms-cs5hl]

I was about to mention the encounter with a “wild karen”. Thought it was mostly an American phenomenon but they are everywhere😮

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Wasn’t sure whether to leave this clip in but it’s honest - this is who I am and how I am and I won’t pretend otherwise 👍

[@jimdavis5230]

Hi Geoff, I live in Blackwood, south Wales and the 20 limits are causing me stress. Getting around takes ages now. Recently a pub in Bargoed had a photo of Mark Drakeford on the window. Below the photo were the words "Wanted Dead Or Alive".

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

What about Lee Waters, the pratt that actually bought it in? Drakeford just supported him through a motion of no confidence, cos "Labour buddies 4 eva!"

[@oliverreedslovechild]

It would make more sense if it said, ? NOT WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE '.

[@neilbright3210]

Drove through Blackwood yesterday, what a shambles, the whole of south wales is a mess…. I wouldnt put a photo of drakeford in my window for fear of a brick going through it! Not only has he made us a laughing stock, he’s IGNORED everyone like a true dictator…. My beloved country is finished unless we stand up and be counted at the ballot box and remind labour they are supposed to work for US… the only way is a period of conservative rule to remind the donkeys in red rosettes they are ELECTED… its not like conservatives could do any worse! People in England take note, this will be coming for you when you vote in sir keir carcrash

[@wayland7150]

Obviously that's a joke but if someone thought a 'reasonable' person thought that someone might take that seriously then the poster would be a hate crime.

[@jimdavis5230]

@@wayland7150 Well I have no idea who posted it however, it was stuck to the inside of the window. I therefore assume it was an inside job.

[@ilit5472]

Unfortunately Wales is still likely to vote left again next time. Wonder what's the next madness they will deliver.

[@7s29]

Voting doesn't matter, whom ever gets in they'll implement the same crap. These councils need to be abolished, for they're illegal anyway.

[@soulcrew1000]

yup. the "gotta vote labour cos my grandpa did".. lot. dickford is a wannabe dictator with a son with dubious morals.

[@GT380man]

Bet on mandatory digital ID.

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

@@GT380man If that happens I'm off to somewhere cheap in mainland Europe to live out my days!

[@andrewnevermind4902]

​@ASBO_LUTELY It's coming to us all. Soon. I'm in Ireland and we're all in lockstep. They haven't kept their intentions hidden. It's all there.

[@levelcrossing150]

I live near the North Wales coast and it's chronic sticking to the 20 MPH in these areas. It's winding me up just watching you drive through them Geoff. I'm surprised there has not been more push-back here, it's so frustrating. Dripford is wrecking our lovely country.

[@terryhoath1983]

The 20 mph limit is part of Putin's plan using subversive Bolshevik crats in the Welsh bureaucracy to disable the West. I don't fancy our chances going to War on a bike. They don't have 20 mph limits in Moscow. Go to 4.29 and see the impatient bus driver up the rear end of the little queue headed by a Womble. Even at 20 mph, that ain't a 2 second time gap.

[@frankparsons1629]

'Ere, I wunt ear anifink sed agin Mr. Muck Drunkterd, 'ees a'doin' is bes' to make sure we is all kept under controle an' be'ave like sheep.

[@lesliecarter4295]

Comrade Vladimir Drakeford is doing his best for the cyclist’s and the sheep. Communism rules and will be expanding its territory to Worcestershire. Look out Geoff.

[@PlattyNumm]

He could mandate everyone has to dress as a giraffe and Welsh would still vote him in. It's in your hands.

[@levelcrossing150]

@@PlattyNumm.....and the rest of Wales who are happy to comply. 🤣 Things will have to get far worse before they take notice.

[@pinussylvestris]

The safer modern cars get, the slower you are allowed to drive. Very rational and logic 🤣

[@pelleedlund6174]

😂👌

[@mad4461]

@pinussylvestris Modern cars have become bigger and heavier and there are far more of them on our congested roads. The 20mph speed limit is only in urban areas and it's not for the benefit of the driver, it's for the benefit of pedestrians, cyclists and other vulnerable road users. Slower speeds make accidents less likely in the first place, and reduce the consequences when they do happen.

[@pauls3075]

If EV's go above 30mph they spontaneously combust. Its a way of levelling the playing field.

[@stevenwileman2443]

@@mad4461how it safer for cyclists if they are overtaking and undertaking cars? Utter nonsense.

[@WORCESTERTHATCH]

@@stevenwileman2443 That's a really good point, I'd not thought of that 👍

[@nekite1]

Myself and my family went camping in north Wales for 15+ years and we really loved it. I would not even think of going to Wales now.

[@StephenButlerOne]

That's a long time to be camping.

[@MrAnthonyrocca]

Why?😂 Seems a bit ott

[@pdtech4524]

I once went camping to shell island for a week 😊 but 15 years that's dedication, did you stay at the same site or move around?🤔👍

[@IanLewisCymru]

@@StephenButlerOne :D (they don't understand ewe)

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@pdtech4524 moving around would make them gypsies. I think they would have just stayed in the same spot.

[@tentruesummers9043]

I live in Prestatyn, and the road at 4:05 where it goes quite steeply downhill was always hard to keep to 30mph, so you can imagine what its like doing 20mph! But here's the rub...that's one of the favourite spots for the speed camera van! No houses, no accident blackspot, but its like shooting fish in a barrel for the speed trap. And they have the cheek to say its not about revenue.

[@wibblywobbly1234]

It’s really not about revenue. The people in charge enjoy the exercise of power, they are malignant narcissists. The more ridiculous the demands the more pleasure they gain from forcing people to bend to their will. It’s pretty dark stuff

[@GT380man]

It’s not about revenue. It’s about FORCED COMPLIANCE.

[@GT380man]

@@wibblywobbly1234Yes, this. Exactly this. It’s the puppet masters will to force compliance.

[@StephenButlerOne]

I'm in meliden, I remember when the speed van first turned up in the layby at the bottom, almost everyone in the village got 3 points. Sneaky bastards. ATM they are always outside Jackson's garden center on the top road. The other morning at 7.30 the sun was directly behind the van and you couldn't see it till youre on top of it. I bet it cleaned up for about 45 min. Also the dip going into dysthe on the same road they have been hiding in. Right where the 60 goes to 20!

[@robredz]

The Meliden Dip is a favourite place for scamera vans.

[@capncol]

Went to wales on my motorcycle in September. At 20mph it was high RPM in 1st gear, but too low for 2nd. Gave up and went back to a comfortable 30 in 2nd. Next year I will spend my money somewhere other than Wales

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

My Hayabusa needs a half-a-gear as the clutch isn't quite out at 20mph...

[@ghosthaggis7102]

20mph is all part of their plan. Coming to a town/city near you soon.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

A bit like the invasion of illegal Islamic immigrants?

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

If we all just ignore it they cannot do thing

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@Anonymous-ib8so Unfortunately I can report that this is not true - it only takes 1 person complying and the entire road gets a jam on it.

[@IfInDoubt..]

20 mph is fucking ridiculous, especially on clear, wide roads.

[@15bit62]

It's not ridiculous per-se - we have it all over norway in residential areas. But roads like these have 50kph (31mph) limits. The 30kph (19mph) limits are in the equivalent of the housing estates that are alongside these roads.

[@onlyme972]

20 mph is the Max

[@silvercat151]

Hurray! An hour of my favourite vehicle KZbinrs!

[@janingemandelid69]

Hello from Norway. What a trip, beautiful scenery and lovely music. Will never buy myself an electric car that's for sure. Looking forward to the next episode of "Top Gear 2.0"

[@paulcostello1807]

Are there not loads of eV s in Norway

[@wayland7150]

'Actually I think you'll find' that as long as you only charge at home they are pretty good. Just remember to get out if it starts filling up with smoke.

[@paulcostello1807]

A friend travelled to Norway and he guesstimated that possibly 50%?? of the cars are electric. They must have a far better charging infrastructure at the very least

[@janingemandelid69]

@@paulcostello1807 So far this year, electric cars make up about 82% of new car sales in Norway.

[@delmabond9800]

Thanks to both of you for these videos. We all need some lighthearted roustabouting in these days of doom & gloom. As a World we are stuffed with what seems to becoming down the pipeline,but we always will have you 2 larrikins to brighten our day. Blessings from Brisbane Australia. ( A awake Aussie) Keep it coming,looking forward to the next adventure also.🤗👍🏻

[@connynilsson8054]

Geoff, I picked this letter up from another channel (survival lilly). She got a mail from someone leaking pretty darned important news.. here it is! Here is the entire message in English: I work in the IT department of a very large, renowned insurance company - headquartered in Germany. Unfortunately, what I tell my circle of friends and relatives about my projects, they dismiss as "conspiracy theory". Many people don't see or understand what will happen to us with this great digitalization revolution - especially the possible dangers/misuse. Here is a small excerpt of the pilot projects we are working on Topic: Digitized car (pilot projects are already underway): In the next 10 years it will no longer be possible to insure "old hams"/ ”old car” (I drive one like that too). You'll be forced to buy a "digital" car (otherwise you won't get insurance). These cars are "online" 24 - 7 and in real time in touch with the insurance/traffic authorities/remote maintenance/surveillance/authorities etc... (that's no joke!). Depending on your driving style, time/speed/driver, your insurance premium will automatically adjust. I.e. If you drive too fast/risky -> you not only pay a fine to the magistrate, but your insurance premium automatically increases. Let's register you as a night driver -> higher premium. If you have more passengers in the car -> higher premium. If your premium is not paid -> you will no longer be able to start your car. We are already in discussions with several major automotive brands to bring a Europe-wide, standardized technical “one-size-fits-all” solution onto the market. Many people don't know that fully integrated breathalyzers (Alcoguard) will be MANDATORY in the coming vehicle generations. This means that if you are drunk, you will no longer be able to start your car. Even if you are below the "minimum alcohol limit", this data will be passed on to the insurance company and you will be penalized with a higher premium. If you are drunk beyond this limit, the relevant authorities will automatically be informed and your insurance will be canceled immediately. Transparent customer We are also relying on the upcoming digital ID to access personal data such as health, traffic, home, etc. The background is that all the necessary customer data is already stored somewhere and as long as it does not leave the EU, everything is fine for the insurance sector with the GDPR. Nowadays, customers also carelessly give their OK under the “small print” that we can collect their personal data. In real time, we collect medical records, living conditions, vehicle data, etc. in the event of damage. Upcoming pilot projects are planned with credit institutions/banks to "reward" a "healthy" lifestyle and punish an unhealthy one... in which we monitor shopping behavior (temporarily limited to districts, but only a matter of time until it is delivered about individual people). If you live in a district where a lot of unhealthy stuff is consumed -> it does affect your life insurance/pension/death insurance etc... We already check the liquidity of ALL customers, but it's still quite old-fashioned. With the coming technological advances (digital ID, digital currency) we will be able to check the liquidity in real time via interfaces with banks/credit institutions/etc..., as well as the tax circumstances of each customer. Security: Also planned and already scheduled as a pilot project for 2025 - a cooperation with the Federal Ministry of Defense/National Security. If a vehicle is registered to a politically exposed person and there is a suspected case, this person will no longer be able to start their vehicle (it will be deactivated via remote monitoring). This applies to all private vehicles in which the politically exposed person sits (except officially registered ones e.g. police cars). A powerful RFID chip will be built into these digital ID cards. This enables a close coupling of 10 m, but monitoring/localization with an accuracy of approx. 1000 m. This is of particular interest to the insurance company because, in the event of damage, we can more easily locate the people/acts of damage/crimes/those involved. We are already in negotiations with the “European digitalization and data protection managers”. to also be able to access this data in more detail. Justified under the name of “security”, “customer friendliness”, “digitalization”. The background is the boom in accident insurance, whereby we are of course interested in how often, when, how and, above all, where each customer moves. Our pilot projects with the connection to AI are particularly interesting - here in ongoing cooperation with Google and Microsoft. In the next 5-10 years, if not much sooner, there will be a revolution (both in the areas of digitalization and AI) that will make the invention of the Internet look like the invention of the "pencil". This is not a conspiracy theory/joke; these are projects that we are already piloting in the implementation/testing phase in the insurance sector. Side notes: In the coming years, owners of electric cars will be prepared to pay a battery tax instead of an engine tax. Reason: Batteries pose an increased risk (fire) and are harmful to the environment (disposal). Payment is made on a sliding scale - watt hours per kilogram. Already in are insurance for “autopilots”. Here, the higher your insurance amount, the “safer” your autopilot will act. Don't be under any illusions that the autopilot will act the same in all vehicles in the event of an accident. At every point in time we know who, when, how, why... is in the car.

[@steamsearcher]

GEOFF can do a whole video on this. Also our personal friend Richard Vobes on his channel. Also Funky Prepper who we also follow. I have just had a post removed from a local NEXTDOOR site where I questioned the going onss at our local School. Many expulsions and Police called etc. It seems that the Pupils have had enough and are following the Irish slant. We live near Reading where the council have just rejected a ULEZ in the town. David and Lily.

[@connynilsson8054]

@@steamsearcher yea this is really, shit hits the fan type of problem.

[@ollyrukes]

ah yes, a copy of an email that someone else posted on a forum claiming to have recieved the email from someone else who works in an insurance company. Totally hard evidence!

[@connynilsson8054]

@@ollyrukes I did not claim it was, but turn a blind eye does not help. Hope for the best, plan for the worst. Real eyes, realise real lies. I would say this is probably most accurate, unless you have something to say...

[@Bobjlow]

I miss bendy, winding British roads, and really enjoy watching these videos. The 20mph zones would stress me out, but it’s fairly enjoyable to watch you guys suffering them!

[@Freeedy]

It wasn’t so frustrating watching as it is to drive at 20mph especially as Geoff speeded up some sections of the video.

[@neilbright3210]

Its a slow motion nightmare in this country isnt it? Almost as if Dickford has been given the task of destroying everything in Wales from our economy and Industry to tourism….

[@daved4547]

You sarcastic git! I like it. LOTS 😏😎🖖

[@Stederino]

20mph, how did they get away with it? Well the answer may be to see how fear-filled the Welsh were in 2021! We visited Hay-on-Wye but were actually staying in England a mile over the border. At the time there was a mask 'mandate' in Wales and not England. (I never wore one anyway). Alas we visited a deli in Hay and were actually refused entry due to not wearing a mask. The shop assistant actually offered to my shopping for me. I of course told him, no thanks, I'll spend my money elsewhere. Anyway, the fear on people's faces (eyes!) was so apparent when we entered the shops there. And that is why Weffy Drakeford can get away with this. The compliant nation.

[@GaryBox]

I experienced the same. During the height of COVID I worked right through in a transport job. Would often stay overnight at places. In Wales and Scotland you couldn't actually have an alcoholic drink with your evening meal, even though I was staying at the attached hotel. No issues in England. It shows that the more socialist the government you elect, the more they want to interfere with your daily life.

[@oldbloke204]

What a load of crap dude. You sound like a bit of a rebel without a clue imo.

[@Trevor_Austin]

Drakeford is a bitter man. He’s a failed father and jealous of everyone who has a life, like every other Labour politician. His son, Jonathan Drakeford was initially imprisoned for eight year for r*** and child s** offences. After early release he was sent back to prison for breaching the terms of his release. Being a loser, Drakeford needed to destroy everyone else’s life. He was assisted by Lee Waters, the deputy climate change minister for Wales, a cycling cockwomble, who came up with this tosh "1% reduction in average speeds would lead to a probable 6% drop in casualties”. That it might. But the loss of jobs, higher prices, more polluted air and more aggressive driver might actually harm more children. Besides, he’s a bloody hypocrite. He’s been preaching to the public about getting out of their cars and on to public transport, yet claimed thousands of pounds in mileage expenses and submitted just three claims for rail tickets. Can you smell it from where you are?

[@GT380man]

I predict they’ll also roll out mandatory digital ID in Wales first, I warn that if you comply and sign up for this, which you don’t need, it’ll end with total loss of freedom and mass deaths. The perpetrators NEED you to sign up, because they cannot individually control you without it.

[@wibblywobbly1234]

A nation of sheep

[@JosephPalmerT5D5]

Original car show guys. You don't need to consider being Top Gear esq... You have stumbled on your own format. Keep it up. A great watch.😅

[@FrankTimms-cs5hl]

“Car trek” UK edition😉

[@ClassicTrialsChannel]

Top gear was old men acting like 18 year olds. It got tiring to watch

[@richardfisher8426]

Rule of thumb is when you're engine starts making a noise you have to turn up volume on the radio.

[@StephenButlerOne]

Yep, fixes all motoring issues 100% of the time.

[@jimsouthlondon7061]

Electric cars don’t make a noise.

[@michaelgodbold6247]

That's another reason not to get one

[@imagseer]

Or buy it a bottle of Red-Ex for diesel.

[@mayreausailing]

When I was a mechanic, we had a car come in with a rattle in the engine and he couldn’t turn the radio up any louder.

[@andersonomo597]

We have 40 KPH limits during the start and end of school days and in specific, marked zones and they are a PIA but I understand why. 20MPH is 32 KPH - that's absolutely ridiculous! Why do governments around the world HATE people!! I'm settling in for a good watch - love watching you two guys go on adventures!! Cheers from Oz!

[@oldbloke204]

Yeah but look at the pissy little roads with cars parked on the sides of them. Sort of like some of our new suburbs here where twin cab utes are parked on the road because there's no room in the driveway or their crapbox won't fit in the garage. I've been down to low speeds in some of these areas due to weaving between parked vehicles or there are kids around. Damn I love living where we do. No tolls, plenty of parking, 110 kph speed limits on most roads and no having to sit in traffic. Life is good.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

​@oldbloke204 But everything wants to kill you. Even your magpies are a holes. A fish killed one of your greatest ffs.

[@Denise-vn8wz]

​​@@oldbloke204 So far. UK is the testing ground. WEF tweaks any problems then global rollout.

[@liberty0758]

It's not about hate, it always is about control. The plan with traffic madness is to eventually get us out of cars, due to frustration and various costs. How is it gonna work in areas where you just can't go anywhere without a car, I don't know, but knowing how stupid and compliant average Aussies are (especially here in communist Victoria), I'm afraid it'll come one way or another. Been hearing some rumours Yarra council wants to introduce 30km/h speed limits now. For your "safety" of course.

[@oldbloke204]

@@Denise-vn8wz Jibber jabber blah blah 5g.

[@brownbag1465]

geoff as i was told the signs indicate the limit not a target feel free to travel at a lesser speed in front of police vehicles or other unsuitable times hope this helps

[@eliz9369]

This was great, really entertaining. Thank you Geoff and Lee.

[@tonydalton6756]

Geoff. I used to have to drive 10 hrs without stopping in the 1980's in a transit Luton. My boss didn't think a break was necessary. I'm glad that peoples attitudes are changing.

[@StephenButlerOne]

My car takes my speedo away and replaces it with a cup of coffee if I've been driving 4hours. Only for about 10 seconds, then about once an hour there after. I think Hyundai has shares in Costas

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Not necessary! What a nob.

[@jamesmacleod9382]

Christ! I'd be lucky to be able to walk when I stepped out after 10 hrs behind the wheel.

[@scalecrawlnl]

Thank you Smokey Geoff and The Fish & Chips Bandit Lee! Appreciate all the hard work that goes into making these videos. Thank you too for taking us along your travels, this case the rather scenic country of Wales. May I add, really appreciate your many, and varied observations gathered from being in the actual environment to to speak. Cheers 😊

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thanks so much!

[@mickles1975]

5:00 Just look at all the pedestrians whose lives were saved on that road because Geoff was driving at 20 mph.

[@paulshenton6527]

They all carry red flags. That's why...

[@wayland7150]

That's true, Geoff ran no one over on this trip, except for the times he went over 20mph and several people were driven over.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

Never saw any

[@mickles1975]

@@Anonymous-ib8so Nonsense. The streets were packed.

[@2760ade]

Balances out all those he asphyxiated with his humongous black exhaust emissions!!🤣

[@tigermcflash131]

The Merc diesel made it....well done Geoff, and thanks to you both for a great video.

[@robredz]

He can say that he's now a big oiler even though he doesn't drive an artic🤣

[@Con-Brio]

`Rage Against The Machine` turned into `Obey The Machine`... Dont want none of them anymore.

[@ianchalklen1047]

Hi Geoff ,another great trip. When you consider 2 tyres on the Taycan cost Lee £700 I think you can forgive the Benz its foibles. 20mph, ulez, LTN’s are all costing businesses money and the powers that be will ultimately have to live with ever decreasing revenue.

[@alanreilly2754]

Over 10 years ago, when Cameron was out and about he was challenged about the condition of roads, a symptom of which was potholes. He then pledged to address the problem of pot holes, effectively resetting to bar to an inadequately low level. There are even more potholes now. Good roads is what we actually need.

[@70chevs]

Rather than defacing the 20 mph speed signs I'd have stickers that look authentic to cover the 20 mph with whatever the speed it was prior.

[@larryjimbob]

Exactly what I was thinking too 😁

[@ianstockwell3825]

Hey Geoff in the states they call your smoke trail "Rollin Coal"😂 Keep up the great work and spread the conspiracy.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

...you also call your bottom your "fanny".....and your trousers your "pants". It's why we don't take you seriously. But we still love you....

[@orwellboy1958]

Who paid for all the 30 mph signs to be replaced? and who's going to pay for them all to be put back when Drakefart is kicked out?

[@noelward8047]

They will never be replaced ... more to come.

[@Stederino]

Well the rules of the road state that if there are street lights and no signage, the highway code says it'll be 30mph. So this has created visual noise and more distractions to the driver (not to mention the constsnt checking of your speed as the cars don't naturally hover atound 20mph like they were designed to do for 30mph). I live in Oxfordshire and most villages are 20mph - it is painful!!!

[@daftasabrush1234]

I couldn't be arsed with planning my trip apart from where I start and where I finish, stop where I want for as long as I want, seems no pleasure or adventure in those milk floats

[@outandabout7636]

Geoff - bit of a long shot but it may help, run it down to around a 1/4 tank add 2 bottles of redex then take it for a drive, slow it right down to just below 20 and floor it for a few secs, keep repeating - you should eventually see the smoke clear, it could be just clogged, although the noise maybe something more problematic, worth trying though. Good vid both of you - even with Lee being 3/4hr late, Once again EV not fairing well

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I’ll try this 👍👍👍

[@BRMCaptChaos]

Also read the ingredients on Redex. C10 is similar to kerosene/jet/heating oil, it'll heat on the exhaust side but may cause knock due to cetane so careful on flooring. Obviously refined, but the principle is sound to heat and burn the dpf. www.newco-europe.co.uk/static/uploads-cms2/msds/5010218340626UKB.pdf

[@ollyrukes]

doesn't seem like that had anything to do with it being an EV though - I mean they both stopped for 30 minutes, so it must be that Lee is just an awful driver or took a different route that hit traffic or something

[@mikejba]

Fun vid Geoff. I did laugh at that Tesco bit about leaving a deposit then getting told off for scooting out under the barrier. I’ve suffered those 20mph limits whilst in North Wales and it’s just a total joke, but it’s just the pre-production proving ground for the rest of the UK and will be here at some point in England/Scotland I’m sure

[@ilit5472]

Another "gift" to Wales from Mark Drayford was minimal alcohol pricing. Which was a boom for English border towns like Hereford who see a massive trade in "booze cruise" visits.

[@larryjimbob]

You didn't give them all of your information but you still gave Tesco a DNA sample Geoff 😉😁

[@johnjames_cowperthwaite]

Another great example of the persistent shortcomings of EVs on all fronts. Lee certainly seemed happier to get to the end and wasn't a broken man at least, like last time. Big thanks Geoff and Lee, shall look forward to the debrief reveal all!

[@alexandermckay8594]

Dippy speed limits but absolutely gorgeous countryside!

[@billynomates920]

we've all seen the meme of the man in the suit looking on from behind a tree as he smiles and rubs his hands gleefully. i can't shake the thought of mark drakeford's 'emmissions tsar' watching an englishman driving a german car the length of wales at 20mph and it smoking all the way.

[@kevbrown7137]

With the demise of the best and original TopGear... These trips and challenges have resparked my interest in such adventures.... Good stuff again 👌

[@GT380man]

When I hear that daft accusation “Conspiracy theorist!” I retort: There IS a conspiracy. There’s nothing theoretical about it.

[@2760ade]

I love that Merc! Remember when it first came out thinking what an absolutely gorgeous looking motor it was! That curved styling is just so pleasing to the eye.

[@alanmon2690]

this year 20mph, next year 4 mph behind a red flag carried by a "Just Stop Oiler"

[@calchedz]

Having one of them in front would make you accidentally stand on the throttle

[@k8vnl]

Geoff we in wales hate the 20mph and loads or road sights have been sprayed over.Only 1002 people in south wales was asked a carefully worded question about the 20mph.So far 466,268 have signed against the 20mph so far but media don't give it any coverage. Road rage is on the up because of it and now the rumour is busses wil be exempt.

[@Jacob-yb6bv]

It’s always a carefully worded questionnaire to a carefully picked ‘random’ group. Ironically it’s the same with the 97% of scientists who ‘agree’ with man made climate change.

[@thijs3514]

You've done it again... Another great trip😊💪🔥

[@Emppu_T.]

You know there's something awfully wrong when you can break the speed limit on a leisurely bicycle. Brilliant bit again guys. Had to take time to watch this one properly.

[@knockschool]

Got a neighbor who thinks 20mph is fine, then comes home from work furious that people are driving 15 to 17 mph in restricted zones. what did he expect, drivers do not want to be paying fines for exceeding 20mph which is very easy to do if you don't constantly watch the speedo. ?

[@Welsh_YETI]

A lot of the 20mph strict enforcers are OAP'S or learners. The majority of the rest just don't bother any more and go about our daily driving at what ever speeds we deam necessary for the conditions. (Wrexham and northwales)

[@davidwatson22]

Good to see both of you in good spirits at the end of the trip , There's no way I will be going to Wales just to crawl around in built up areas.

[@edwardmurray8507]

Phil to Geoff: "Work hard, play hard and lead an honest life". Geoff to Phil: "...and be left alone". You've pretty much just summed life up for the vast majority of us.

[@DebNewton-kh4cv]

I was shocked to see the bribery at Tesco’s! You are kidding me!!

[@lucidity7983]

Me too! I've been in Tesco once in nearly 3 years now, no plans on returning either, voting with my feet and purse. Yes biting off my nose slightly but pah.. wotevs.

[@calchedz]

I boycotted them years ago along with McDonald's and a whole list of others😂

[@Dunkelzeitgeist]

Only catching up now Geoff, loving it! You're a bloody legend, Lee too

[@timothyabraham13]

Geoff remember to add all the oil you've burnt into your financial results 😂

[@martin-1965]

🤣🤣🤣

[@monkeyjim9398]

its not oil but diesel i think he said .. i am sure thats what he said anyways..

[@wayland7150]

@@monkeyjim9398 It's probably oil. It seems more smokey when accelerating after the car has been running slowly. This maybe oil building up in the camshaft part of the head.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

@@wayland7150 It's usually soot in the exhaust system and DPF being burnt off.

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

Looking forward to this one here in Bulgaria.

[@orwellboy1958]

Dobyr vecher. I hope I've got that right👍

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

@@orwellboy1958 браво да, благодаря!! 🇧🇬 Обичам Geoff Buys Cars, probably the best You Tube channel in the world😃

[@sophie02222]

Oh my actual effff …. The Tesco stop ! That will go down as classic Geoff buys car footage 😂

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Glad you think so because it nearly got cut out, but it’s honest, and true, so i left it 😂😂👍👍

[@tee_m]

Might be worth getting some handheld radios for these trips, especially in third world countries lacking infrastructure. Also legal to use while driving. Only issue is Lee being out of range as he's so far behind.

[@khajiit8221]

Great stuff, keep up the good work Geoff!

[@briankinder9292]

Cornwall is starting phase 3 of the 20 mph roll out covering all Cornwall,added to that we have large areas of 40 mph. To add insult to injury they are turning our sytreets lights off at 12.00 as a test, weshortly start 2 week bins empting and the rates go up !!!!!!!!!!

[@Dave-kw7jq]

I'm half Welsh and I took my kids all around where you are when they were growing up, plus I was a service engineer from Deeside down through Wrexham etc to Monmouth.. I loved driving all over Wales...But and it is a big but since Dickford brought the absolutely insane "lets kill welsh tourism" policy In I refuse to cross the Deeside bridge into that idiots autocratic country.

[@NobleDistortion]

I live in the Carmarthen valleys, and these 20 limits arent followed by many, there are a few who adhere ro them.. one good thing to come of this, is the 30mph speed cams have all been taken down lol.

[@barriewilliams4526]

Another victory for a diesel powered car, despite it only costing £800. It just doesn't make any sense to pay so much money for a battery powered car, that will cost just as much to get there, and you'll arrive late, crazy😜

[@sardav160479]

Whats even more crazy theres talk of letting buses drive at 30 in the 20 zones because its so much more pleasurable being hit by a bus

[@Caroline-ue7lp]

Great video as usual! Particularly enjoyed the Tesco commentary! 😂 Hope you managed to get your fish and chips, when i lived on the Island most of the chippys were shut after lunch in the winter!

[@larstell]

In the Swedish movie LEIF he should jump a 80cm fence. He took 5 step back and did a fosbury flop...😂😂

[@Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR]

Another really good watch Geoff and Lee. Really enjoyed it and the whole way you treated Tesco was disgraceful and I loved it !!!

[@ljw5768]

I live in South Wales and a few months into the 20mph no one is taking any notice of it any more.

[@ASBO_LUTELY]

if you lived in an area for a long enough you know where to brake for speed cameras and where you can bump yourself back up to 30.

[@NickB_Yorkshire]

Great countryside and enjoyable trip ‘Smokey Geoff’. Those photo stops were real mental health boosters ☺️. So glad that the new trusty Merc made it 😁. You guys are great when you get together.

[@steamsearcher]

That was great You up at strange times as well? David and Lily.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I love these longer edits :)

[@kennyfordham6208]

Bless you, Geoff. You were so polite, to give way, to that lorrie. 😌

[@PenryMMJ]

Round 3: Taycan vs public transport Round 4: Taycan vs a horse Round 5: Taycan vs a pogo stick. You've got to let Lee win one or he'll start crying. 😁

[@kevkingsnorth9222]

Jeff that was hilarious you getting reprimanded off the Tesco Stazi for going out the wrong door!! Keep up the Sterling work😀👍

[@wardyx360]

Another banger of a video, love the new vids with you and Lee. And i think if you did a combined edit of both yours and lee’s footage in to one, it would make it more of a move to see the conversations between the two of you etc. that would be awesome.

[@berniecoles2337]

Brilliant video, you guys are the new Top Gear only far better. You represented what it’s like driving here in Wales so well, it’s ludicrous what Drakeford and Waters have done, made worse by their total ignorance of those they’re meant to serve. The petition against the 20mph limit has reached over 465000 signatures, which is more than what voted them into power, yet still they ignore us. We’re living under a dictatorship and they must go or Wales is lost if it isn’t already.

[@Con-Brio]

If your injectors are leaking/overfuelling then some of it may be passing the piston rings and diluting the engine oil. You dont want that... Just check if the engine oil level is high and smells/feels `diesely`.

[@wibblywobbly1234]

That would involve opening the bonnet!

[@DebNewton-kh4cv]

😂😂

[@NobbingNobby]

At 9’ 57” when you drive through the contraflow green light, for the fenced off road works, there’s no-one working! Quelle surprise!

[@mccarthyjohn576]

10 Outta 10 Again Buddy. Very funny, best bit, when the camera fell over on the finish line, you couldn't have scripted it better. Superb editing. Beautiful scenery, incredible roads when you could do any sort of speed, the music was excellent. It was so 80's electronica, Very Miami Vice or something, all you were short a Phil Collins drum solo. LOL When you turned up at Stacey's house in Barry, it's a damn shame you were not in the "Smithy" mobile. The locals would have had kittens thinking James Corden was back. PMSL It will be interesting to see where Lee lost time again, he stopped for 40mins, and arrived 40mins after you, so minus your 30mins thats 50mins he lost on the road. The findings are now conclusive, Wales is a nightmare and EV's are not the way forward. The only way you can lose the next one is if you have to push your car some distance. Hahahahaha

[@simonwilkinson211]

Just an outstanding vid Geoff! Thanks!

[@ptaylor5014]

Great entertaining video again, keep them coming 👍👍

[@malcbury9739]

Really enjoy these Geoff vs Lee videos. Not only does it take a lighthearted look at comparisons (and how crap EVs are, lol) but they're great, and amusing to watch, no big production teams editing them to the 'n' th degree, just really enjoyable fun and banter. Please do more. Far far better than Top Gear. Thanks, guys.

[@davidwatson22]

I was surprised Lee could get down some of those narrow roads 😂

[@Paul-li9hq]

So hilarious! The range on both the diesel and the Exploding Vehicle was poorly impacted by the 20mph limit? So that means the diesel is burning more fossil fuel and the EV is consuming more electricity (probably created in part, or largely, from burning fossil fuel)... And this is meant to be 'saving the planet?' 🤣🤣🤣 Absolutely comical!

[@Equiluxe1]

If all the speed limits are reduced to 20mph and electric cars are all you can buy people will start using ride on lawn mowers powered by a brigs and stratton.

[@BleachDemon99]

Na, HondaGX engine all day 😆

[@GT380man]

26 min, those roads remind me so much of the rural B roads and almost farm tracks in rural Kent. Obviously not the mountains! But the hedgerows, in summer, just lovely on an old motorcycle, moderate speeds, covering the brakes.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Beautiful.

[@billienomates1606]

A rolling coal Mercedes what an excellent way to give two fingers to carbon neutral woke brigade...OUTSTANDING. 👍

[@bentullett6068]

What the people of Wales need is some extremely windy weather like in London. The wind there is strong enough to take down ULEZ camera's and new speed caameras. Also people of Wales need to employ some dinosaurs for extra help.

[@Muppet.master]

❤ Dino's 😂🎉❤

[@johnnyg1700]

Geoff, you mentioned seeing cameras everywhere... I seen loads of them while on holiday down in Cornwall this year mate, they are everywhere and they've also changed the speed limits from 30 to 20 MPH everywhere. The same thing where I live up north as well. I think your right on your theory.

[@robbrady4649]

"I've given Tesco something and it's not my information". They've got your DNA now Geoff!

[@jamie-hb8gy]

Proves lee doesn't look in his mirrors😂😂😂

[@garrygraham7901]

He doesn't need mirrors coz all the petrol/diesel cars are in front of him...😎

[@zzhughesd]

Loved it G & Macca. I’m feeling the love for the Welsh 20s from Here. 2023 joys

[@Eric_Hunt194]

RIP the cyclist who died of black lung... You're in Wales, so perhaps his name was Dai Young!

[@lopeo2324]

I’m from Spain and some of our news outlets said we were used as an example to justify applying the 20mph limit in Wales. I’m just gonna say that our 20mph/30kmh limit generally applies to streets, while roads that pass through towns are normally still 30mph/50kmh. Even then, most people are against it, and its very common to see people speeding unless there’s a speed camera.

[@beanyb0b.]

Hi Geoff - In answer to your question at time stamp 38.20 - Take you car to the isle of Mann and drive over the mountain road - ALSO They don't have a national 60 MPH speed limit - There national speed limit is unlimited 🚗🚗🚗🚀🛸 PS EPIC PRODUCTION - LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT 👍🙂

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thank you!!

[@sebastianmessina31]

I reckon that the best philosophy is fill up when I can, not when I have to but then I very often tow a 2 ton caravan.

[@c00ldfeet84]

The reason nobody does anything, is because we have got no fuckin backbone in this country Geoff.

[@jonhigginson4096]

top work fellas, thoroughly enjoyable hour passed.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thank you!

[@abedekok322]

I can't image putting around everywhere at 20 mph here in the states (now of course the US is b i g so speeds are higher) but the region I live in is similar to this part of Wales (farmland and small towns) it just seems a bit silly to over police speeds to an insane point where you can't actually get anywhere.

[@ianbateman8812]

Goodbye tourism Wales plus lots of businesses closing down lack of customers bigger burden on the state

[@Vanosphere]

When I was in Wales last I was at a junction I'd used many times before. Because everyone was doing 20mph everyone was bunched up so I was waiting at that junction 5 times longer than usual.. therefore burning 5 times more fuel

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Exactly