The New BL1 Bakerloop Bus

TfL have put out a consultation about added a new bus to the Superlook network - the BL1 which would run along the route of the proposed Bakerloo Line extension.
I got to have a sneak peek of what they bus looked like, and chat to the MD of Go Ahead, who would most likely run the bus out of their Camberwell Garage.
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[@Nick-kz6dg]

Using dedicated bus routes as a test bed for Tube and rail extensions should become standard practice everywhere!

[@DavidShepheard]

TfL should make Superloop bus routes for all the railway lines they are campaigning for, use stats for those buses to help with the business case for the railway and build up the ridership that can later move onto the trains. As each railway extension finally gets authorised and built, the Superloop buses should be moved onto the next thing.

[@MadBiker-vj5qj]

Brilliant, that would really shake things up.

[@nathanw9770]

Good idea actually

[@quantisedspace7047]

The 'Loop Bus services should be retained, and run in parallel with the same-named lines. This would make all-night running a bit easier to manage, as well as having a pre-built rail-replacement bus service. Naturally, all the fares and OSIs should still work with the buses. How about having a cross-platform interchange between a bus and train ?

[@FarmYardGaming]

I fear there's a risk someone looks at it and just goes 'this bus route is fine we're not spending a bajillion on a train track'

[@Gfynbcyiokbg8710]

Except in many cases there isn't an easy route for the bus to folow which may mean few riders which could then hinder a business case

[@JayZDraws]

I just love the name “bakerloop”, gives it so much more emphasis into what it’s made for

[@MTGP1525]

TfL missed out on the Jubileeloop as part of the proposed Jubilee line extension to Stratford and then the Northernloop as part of the proposed extension to Battersea Power Station Station.

[@NinjaSurferTrainspotting]

​​@@MTGP1525jubileeloop would probably be a riverboat because of the number of times the jle crosses the thames

[@kevinfitzpatrick444]

​@@MTGP1525 Jubeloop, surely?

[@quantisedspace7047]

@NinjaSurferTrainspotting "Jubiloop"

[@cece5203]

@@MTGP1525 i think jubiloop would be better hahahah

[@peterdowden7694]

I like how the Old Kent Rd card in Monopoly has a brown stripe; perhaps they knew about the Bakerloo extension

[@geofftech2]

Aaaah, How did i miss that! Brilliant! Heh he.

[@aminohassan459]

Broooooo

[@rickyzuc]

I absolutely loved they used the Bakerloo moquette, such a neat touch!

[@simonkalavazides6422]

Also the last tube moquette on a bus was on the Leyland Titan and MCW Metrobus based on the D Stock and the 1983 tube stock.

[@geofftech2]

aha!! Great to know - thank you!

[@brianparker663]

Great reply. Thanks!

[@JoeGrohlDJ]

Thanks for clarifying this. I wouldn't have known the bus/tube stocks but a quick google search confirms I know exactly which moquette is was.

[@GoAheadLondonMetrobus_YT]

@@geofftech2 NICE VIDEO MAN

[@Eric_Hunt194]

That moquette was also found on many Leyland Olympians and Atlanteans in other parts of the country. Remember seeing it every day on the Yorkshire Rider Atlanteans I rode to school. Think it was a Leyland/BMC design rather than London Transport.

[@joermnyc]

Of course a tube train holds many more passengers than a bus, so extending the line should still be a priority. Here in Queens, NY they just finished up a complete redesign of the entire bus network for the Borough. A massive undertaking with a lot of public input. I believe Brooklyn is next up for a redesign.

[@smjrn63]

Increasing your views today. Had to rewatch this morning. I tried yesterday and fell asleep. Lol No your not boring! I was just really tired after a 14 hour overnight shift. 😂

[@pwrcaelenx]

Who’s gonna tell her views only register once…

[@smjrn63]

@pwrcaelenx lol not if you have more than one KZbin profile in your home.

[@ojane2000]

@pwrcaelenx women fr

[@smjrn63]

@ojane2000 what? My SIL keeps his profile logged on the living room tv.

[@QwertyScream]

The fact that your videos get nearly 2000 views in just 23 mins shows how popular you are!

[@spottymaxy1628]

'Bakerloop' is fun to say for some reason

[@peterbradburn9115]

Innit 😃

[@quantisedspace7047]

"Bakerloo" is a good name as well, as Baker Street is about the only Z12 station to have an actual public toilet.

[@DarthCoco]

Hmm... No disrespect to the brown tube line, but I feel this terming has more easily-utilised intended integrity (loop), nobody asked for :)

[@Mgameing123]

Bakerloop would be a nice stopgap before the Bakerloo Line extension.

[@NikolaHoward]

Whilst I agree... there is nothing so permenant as a temporary solution 😞

[@200milesaway6]

EL routes were meant to be replaced with trams.

[@Mgameing123]

@@NikolaHoward Especially in British Rail days.

[@quintuscrinis]

Need it on the section north of Queens Park too to aid the 18 which is always so overcrowded. 😅😢😭

[@Discount-Stonks]

@@NikolaHoward The “temporary” low level bus station at Hammersmith being a great example of this.

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

Good to see you in my neck of the woods 😄...I must have missed you that day.

[@eastlancsesteem]

Hello Anton!

[@geofftech2]

ha haaa!! THERE YOU ARE! I did look out for you, got chatting to several people outside on the corner, and wondered if you might come out at any moment !! next time.... :-)

[@nathanw9770]

I've only just noticed that there's no daytime bus route that goes from Lewisham to Waterloo, you have to change for the 453 or 172 at New Cross. The only other direct option is the train which often face delays at Lewisham. And the only bus going between OKR and Lewisham is the 21 which gets filled to the brim often. So the BL1 would definitely do a lot for Lewisham.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

453 doesn’t go Lewisham or Waterloo and 172 doesn’t go Lewisham From Waterloo to Lewisham you either change at elephant and castle for the 136 Camberwell for the 436/484/185 (never get the last 2 buses mentioned lol if you value your time) Or New Cross gate for the 136/436/21/321/225(from New Cross)

[@metropod]

There is a prototype map my bosses at New York City Transit are thinking of implementing that would show our Select Bus Service BRT-ish routes on the map along with the subway. The problem with adding this to the tube map, at least currently, is, personally, it’s already at information overload. The SBS routes would be simple blue lines, not on par with the subway lines. And for Bakerloop to join the map, you need some very specific way to convey “this is not the tube, this is a bus”.

[@williamerazo3921]

They should. It’s on other maps

[@tonys1636]

Just needs a bus symbol to indicate a bus route or stop. May need a description for our trans Atlantic cousins to comprehend it.

[@Nooticus]

The managing director here has such great energy, amazing video as ever Geoff

[@EditsTfL]

Bakerloop. I love that name. Very interesting name.

[@GJAV-123]

Same

[@kevinlucioni7256]

The District Line D Stock had the same mocquette as the Metrobus, Titan, Olympian, and Nynny & Nynty , the two Dodge Minibuses A1 + A2 that ran the PB1. They were given those nicknames by PB staff because of their reg numbers, NYN 1Y & NYN 2Y.

[@guillaumemaurice3503]

Thank you for sharing this video Geoff that was very interesting and great information. ❤

[@michaelsearle]

Interestingly, Vancouver in Canada has a similar set up. The 99 B-Line currently runs from Commercial Broadway Skytrain station to UBC, and Translink are in the process of extending the Skytrain along the route to ultimately replace the bus service

[@smashedavocado79]

Hi Geoff, you seem to have good contacts at TFL, could you find out why TFL hardly does cross border bus services? For example, Orpington and Sevenoaks being next to each other are not connected by TFL buses and only a local one (Go) that hardly runs. Would be a good video to explore why and if there are future plans for more cross border TFL buses between the "last" town in greater London connecting the first town across the border. Good idea for a super loop now that I think about it.

[@jossdeiboss]

This is what you get when local public transportation is managed by a region and not separated small private entities: a very well harmonized system with attention to the users. Manchester is following TfL example. I hope other big cities/regions will do the same!

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Hi Geoff. Brilliant idea. To me it looks like a bus replacement service for the yet to be built Bakerloo extension. Cheaper than building the extension. 😂 I do like the livery, inside and out. 👏👏 PS Good to say hello and thank you at Egham Orbit parkrun yesterday. 🏃🏃‍♀️🏃‍♂️

[@SEFR7337]

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[@philipbrailey]

Great video Geoff, much appreciated. From Australia🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@TheClass43Guy]

Great Vid Geoff!

[@DioBrando-h2x]

I love when Geoff does buses, they're such interesting content.

[@networknathan]

the goat has uploaded again :)

[@geofftech2]

helloo! thanks Nathan!! :-)

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Loving the bus series 👏🏽

[@6yjjk]

Rupert the Bear scarf, God, there's a throwback.

[@tomasc9613]

Hi Geoff, sounds like the interior work was done by HD Trim in Eastleigh - ironically in the old rail yard!

[@alanreader4815]

Wow Cant wait to Sit on a Euston Line Seat on a Toilot Geoff. Really Excited.

[@kanga22883]

If rail extension went ahead, would elephant and castle need to close at times, in which case the connection to Waterloo would save running special replacement buses (although service bay need strengthening)

[@SuperloopSL9-u4e]

Nice one Geoff Double Decker Anton works from Camberwell Bus Garage looks like you'll have to ride more bus routes you need to do a colab with him

[@geofftech2]

One day we will hopefully meet each other, yes!

[@SuperloopSL9-u4e]

@geofftech2 OK I was watching your Baker Street video when this video came up

[@homeland417]

Geoff I'm from Staffordshire but I find your videos fascinating and tfl amazing great work and thank you for your efforts 👌

[@ramyisthegoat]

W video Geoff! I'm very excited for the new superloop 2 map to come very soon 😊

[@adriangiddins6065]

In a former life as a GreenLine driver I used to cover that route on the 704/5, limited stop....so it's not a new idea...just a re-hashed LT one !!

[@GreatWesternTransportation]

These buses look rather nice, but certainly looking forward to the Bakerloo Line extension

[@MineRickStar]

Even though everyone calls them Go Away in Germany because their trainservice is not the best, I am quite pleased to see someone in a higher function having time for you.

[@Lx11awu_studios]

In Croydon Roblox,because of Go ahead resulting in a strike,they named GAL to Go away London instead

[@pwrcaelenx]

@Lx11awu_studiosfellow Croydon Bus player i see

[@RJBTransport]

Great video Geoff is the New supperloop In service yet Bakerloop is good name 👍

[@matt_7697]

Do it, Do it, Do it. Been waiting so long for the extension

[@paulinacyganek7440]

Great video Geoff, now I've got another thing to look forward to do whenever I'm back in London.

[@HenrysAdventures]

This would make a good trolleybus route! It would be great to have trolleybuses in the UK again.

[@bourke2]

Why would we want inflexible trolleybuses now that battery technology has improved so much? In what way would a trolleybus be better than the BYD electric bus they were riding on?

[@hylje]

@@bourke2what about a battery bus that can recharge while moving using trolley wires

[@HenrysAdventures]

@@bourke2 Battery buses are a poor relation to trolleybuses. Battery buses have to have a much stronger frame and body to accommodate the batteries, mining lithium iron is not good for the environment, if they catch fire it can be disastrous. In the last few years now trolleybus systems have been built in France, Italy and Czechia which have been very successful and well used.

[@dazzlingdaz187]

This video is peak Geoff

[@gh1851]

If the Bakerloo Line can't be extended further south than Elephant, then I quite like the idea of the Bakerloop, if only the buses were brown instead of red. Nice one, Geoff 👍

[@bfapple]

The Bakerloo _can_ be extended. This is an interim route to test the waters.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

It can be extended and it should have had a long time ago

[@Sim0nTrains]

Great video Geoff. Strange to see Tube Moquette on a bus

[@TheHoveHeretic]

"love sitting on Bakerloo Line moquette *on a BUS* . Wonderful nerdgasm there Geoff!! 👍

[@jimhearsonwriter]

Saw this bad boy (the bus, not Geoff) in the wild this morning, cruising by Clapham Common. I had to do a double-take, as you don't expect to see a yet-to-launch service often, particularly one that isn't on its route.

[@aaronsmith9209]

They should just bring back the Greenline express routes, so places around London can also benefit from these types of services. Would love the 724 (Harlow to Heathrow) to come under London Transport again.

[@john07973]

Seconded I remember as a kid using the Green Rover ticket for days out in the school holidays

[@markcf83]

Wouldn't happen. The vast majority of the route is outside Greater London.

[@aaronsmith9209]

@markcf83 Yes but because of the movement of people for both work and leisure, both from people who live in London and those that are just outside, the transport side of things can't be neatly tied to the same political boundaries of Greater London, London's transport needs to cover further out like it used to. Much of London's traffic problems is people from outside as the local transport is rubbish or non-existent. But if we can expand London's contactless system to rail stations much further out than before, why not cover the buses under the same system? Plan it all together as one thing. TFL needs to become a South East Regional Transport Authority. The former London Transport covered much of the home counties from the 1930s to 1970, the reason Greenline 724 even exists. No reason we can't do it again and more necessary today as the region is far more built up.

[@discogareth]

The name Bakerloop is amazing, the moquette on the bus is amazing. Love it!

[@thebananacraft7298]

You should get over to Kent to see fast track buses as it’s the only fully electric bus company. Going to be running 28 electric I tram buses as part of go head group.

[@customtransport2777]

Although this proposal of the Bakerloop express route is one of Sadiq Khan’s good consultations that he’s made, I would’ve preferred to see the whole bus exterior applied in an all-over brown livery to colour coordinate with the Tube line. Though it is really nice to see that their train’s Barman moquette has been fitted inside which

[@timothyrider1127]

Funnily enough there is already a (non-TfL) BL1 route operating in London - and a BL2, for that matter - though they're only for people who work at the "Bloom Heathrow" business park near Bedfont Lakes.

[@mohibj]

The only thing I'd want once the actual extension goes through is for fares between Waterloo and Lewisham to stay the same as they would've been for the bus.

[@TransportForLuka]

I think Geoff was having a bit of a joy overload at the end there 😂😂😂

[@Fan652w]

I am obviously in favour of the Bakerloop bus. However, I was born in 1948. When I was about 12 I remember reading a book on the London Underground which said that that it was proposed to extend the Bakerloo to Camberwell, and then perhaps on to Lewisham. Will I see that in my lifetime?

[@srfurley]

There used to be an illuminated sign at Warwick Avenue station which showed the stations served. Below Elephant & Castle was a blank space where something had been painted out. After many years the black paint started to peel off revealing ‘Camberwell’. I hope thar sign found its way to the LT Museum.

[@thefullelectro118]

The current plans are to get to at least Lewisham by 2040 (knowing TfL though...)

[@quantisedspace7047]

I have seen the Bakerloo Line extension being proposed on and off since the mid 1980s, with Camberwell, Bricklayers' Arms, New Cross being prominent stops amongst most of those proposals. I think we're closer to it than it's ever been, but it's still touch and go.

[@RendererEP]

​@thefullelectro118 mad how it takes nearly a century.

[@damiancook625]

I had to check it wasn’t April 1st. Great video Geoff.

[@demon75]

Service is not needed on this stretch of proposed extension, but it is needed the other side from Lewisham to either Catford, Beckenham Junction (trams), or Hayes (along BR already built). At peak times the buses will just get stuck the entire route making them as slow as any other bus. They will also be full after 3 stops at Lewisham and will simply drive past everyone from New Cross to Elephant and Castle.

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

I have heard that a new Superloop 2 is coming as part of the Superloop expansion across Greater London. I have been on few of the Superloop buses around London and I think it’s great to have a dedicated Superloop bus network. So that people can go from one area to the other without having to change buses and to get to the nearest tube station or National Rail station. I really am a big fan of the Superloop.

[@Lx11awu_studios]

I’m not a fan anymore ever since they cut back SL12 to Gants Hill for whatever reason

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

⁠True.

[@marksinthehouse1968]

As well as the district mentioned here ,straub moquette was used on the metropolitan ,DMS ,BL,LS SMS from the C stock and 1972mk2 ,1973 and 1959 on transfer to the northern even the RCLs had straub when brought in use as buses ,nice 😊😊

[@trainjedi9651]

I think having a bus to parallel a proposed rail line in the absence of said line in order to start building demand is a brilliant idea (I believe similar things have been done in Australia)! However, I worry the Bakerloop will be used to argue why the BLE shouldn't be built - the fact that higher order transit already exists could be used against the construction of the BLE

[@quintuscrinis]

Need something similar for the current line north of Marylebone to aid the 18 which ends uo acting as a rail replacement service thanks to the constant terminus of northbound trains at Queens park. 😅😢😭

[@oforid2227]

i just realised these buses have rear cameras too on the sides that's new!

[@shirleywoo57]

Totally good news 👍

[@Wysecricket]

Have they taken into account the horrendous traffic conditions along the Old Kent Road?

[@PompeyBarney]

That black moquette 😍 need that on a tshirt!

[@matejaobrenovic3338]

If it is a proof of concept for a tube line or extension I think it should appear on the tube map as a dashed or dotted line.

[@rossmetcalfe7808]

The investment in London’s transport system is incredible-I love it every time I visit! Meanwhile, here in the North East, our infrastructure is crumbling due to a lack of funding (just look at the Felling Bypass). Go North East struggles to keep its aging, second-hand buses running, and the Metro is still relying on 40-year-old trains because of constant delays-only one or two new ones are in service so far. The disparity is unreal!

[@progamingderash4566]

Surely it should serve one of the Peckham stations? Seeing as that it would go past the area. a double run.

[@LaprasSurfer]

A double run would be against the point of an express right?

[@Bruce-h8w]

Now you’re back to alternative routes. BLE via Camberwell or OKRd? That was sorted after lengthy discussion. You don’t happen to live in Peckham, do you?

[@LaprasSurfer]

@Bruce-h8w maybe tfl should (not would) run two separate bus routes for each proposal, BL1 and bl2, to solve this issue, BL2 starting at elephant & castle and running to Lewisham (or even just New Cross Gate to reduce PVR) via peckham & camberwell

[@Smart1529]

@progamingderash4566 they had two options for the BLE. Option 1 was Camberwell and Peckham Rye which got started but never finished. And Option 2 which is what TFL settled on permanently due to potential development for the area which is Old Kent Road. Maybe a potential Crossrail 3, North West to South East. With Camberwell, Peckham and Lewisham. Long way away but hey who knows.

[@MadDawgPrash]

Could this be the start of other types of routes such as the CentraLoop or the PiccaLoop services?

[@sherondalewis8053]

The PiccaLoop sounds awesome, actually! Would this go from Heathrow to Cockfosters or past it?

[@MadDawgPrash]

​@@sherondalewis8053It would cover from Acton Town to Heathrow to Acton Town via South Harrow on one loop. Then from Ealing Common to Hyde Park corner. There would no doubt be others covering up to Cockfosters, and would go up to Potters Bar or North Finchley.

[@sherondalewis8053]

@@MadDawgPrash another reason for me to visit England again!! I personally think every city, town, village, hamlet, whatever, should have some form of transportation and adding more buses/trams would be great!

[@MadDawgPrash]

@@sherondalewis8053 Don't get me started on Trams. lol.

[@kevinfitzpatrick444]

Don't get too attached to the name Bakerloop, they can always change it to something else we'd have to get used to like they did to the Goblin..

[@shawnli4746]

I had to check that it wasn't February Fool's Day As for the consultation, rerouting 453 to Lewisham and 436 to deptford may be enough without having to introduce an entirely new route

[@geofftech2]

i think when they first announced this last year it was April 2nd, wasn't it? and i had the same thought!

[@fokuz2025]

What's the point of that if there's 21

[@JoeGrohlDJ]

@@fokuz2025 'cos the 21 doesn't go to Elephant and Waterloo. The main reason for not doing it is because simply rerouting the 453 doesn't alleviate overcrowding on the route.

[@fokuz2025]

@ oh ok

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

@@fokuz2025the 21 serves a different purpose of going through London Bridge and north into the Highbury area

[@Samuelgamer365]

These new routes will be good

[@eastlancsesteem]

We Southeasterners love you!

[@Smart1529]

Good practice for Rail Replacement service as well if BLE does happen future maintenance happens. I hope they give us BL2 and BL3 beyond Lewisham to service Beckenham, Bromley and Hayes.

[@southofthemersey7351]

I hope TfGM and Andy Burnham launch similar super loop routes in Greater Manchester. Neighbouring towns in GM despite being only a few miles apart have looooong stopping routes. Towns 5-10 miles apart are 60-90 minutes+ apart on a bus. The quickest public transport route then ends up being trains/trams into a busy Manchester city centre and back out again. There used to be routes roughly following the ring roads and M60 but they've long gone. Hopefully GM can take a look at GLdn's efforts and emulate.

[@LeeSmith-cf1vo]

I thought the whole purpose of extending is the Bakerloo is to relieve the Old Kent Road which is congested from all the buses. If this works instead then I can see the extension never happening... BTW, district seat moquete was used on some buses in the Orpington area (e.g. 51) in the early 90s.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

This bus is gonna have a lot of delay on old Kent road from a person who uses the road a lot it’s a very narrow road for being a major trunk road In London

[@cmw3737]

There's a guy called Gerard who works at TFL, or used to circa 2012. He is a London bus route encyclopedia who had a big say in what routes buses take. I wonder if he's still involved.

[@Busoccultation]

Stagecoach put in a old Tube style moquette on two special livery buses in 2014 for the 100th anniversary of Catford Garage with a double deck ADL Enviro 400 10136 received the same moquette as the pre refurb D stock and 1983 stock interior and while a single deck ADL Enviro 200 36343 had a moquette that was similar to that was used on the 1938 stock.

[@Lx11awu_studios]

10136 has since transferred to Romford and lost everything

[@Busoccultation]

@Lx11awu_studios The moquette on 10136 was long gone already, got the usual Stagecoach moquette when it got repainted back in red before it even left Catford in 2018 for Barking.

[@gussmedways]

Prepared at Hants & Dorset Trim in Eastleigh. Not far from the Arlington Fleet Group works. May be an idea for a couple of future videos???

[@JohnResalb]

Is this some kind of makeshift alternative for the long planned Bakerloo Line extension.? Many readers of this text will be lucky to see such an extension in their life-time !! That's how slow everything is in getting done. Is it some kind of British disease??

[@angusprune2758]

As a recent recipient of an OAP's English Bus Pass, 1. Can I use it on Superloop? 2. How does the bus company get paid for my trip?

[@georgecandelin8720]

Not accepted on TfL, check their website for other fares but standard rate for Superloop is only £1.75 anyway.

[@angusprune2758]

@@georgecandelin8720 I have used it on Standard London Buses!

[@brianparker663]

I use my OAP bus pass frequently for SL8, SL9 and SL10. So yes, it certainly is accepted.

[@angusprune2758]

@@brianparker663 Thank you @brianparker663, It's nice to know for sure. 👍

[@yuhanwei7139]

Would be intresting if they had one branch going from lewisham-eltham-blendon-bexleyheath-erith to make use of the A2 and another branch going to catford-bromley to make use of the bus lanes on A21, it could be a night bus option as well since night buses in the south east are really slow

[@NubianPrince85]

Tom is cute.....love Bakerlooop!

[@davidhastings5363]

If the bus breaks down will there be a train replacement provided?

[@EditsTfL]

It’s like it’s the Bakerloo line, but above ground.

[@Alan-ln3ls]

And much, much slower.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Not really Old Kent road is a very busy road so it’s just a bus service honestly nothing that has the benefits of a train system

[@SIMONWINTER-m6d]

Anyone else think that by having what is basically a rail replacement service, even though there is nothing yet to replace this will delay the building of the extension even more ?

[@jameswarner5809]

My issue with calling it Bakerloop is that it's not part of a loop, it's just an express route which has an interchange with the Superloop.

[@JoeGrohlDJ]

See also SL6 and SL8. Worse still, the upcoming SL4 doesn't interchange with the loop, and the SL6 isn't even express between Croydon and West Norwood. The orbitals should have been numbered 1-8 and the radials from 9 onwards, or preferably just kept as Xs and renumbered from 1 in order of introduction, seeing as there are several more to come!

[@DonConstance]

Hmm, not part of the loop. Can we call it “Superloo” then? It is brown…

[@SamSitar]

that bus could act as step while we wait for the bakerloo line extension.

[@WillTrains125]

Nice video Geoff! I hope the bakerloo extention becomes a reality 🤞🤞 Also, would you ever do a video in the South cotswolds area? Because apart from me and my friend, this area hasn't ever really been covered before

[@brianfretwell3886]

Someone on Facebook suggested that you can already do E&C to Lewisham by train - forgetting that there are only 2 Thameslink trains an hour fron E&C that will only get you to Denmark Hill where you will have to wait over a quarter of an hous for one of the two South Eastern trains an hour to Lewisham. Not a good way to get there!!!!

[@lancervp]

That's actually really cool

[@davestarkie9977]

Being the largest area postcode in Bolton... BL1 has a completely different meaning to us Boltonians.

[@stue9391]

Meanwhile here in the North East go ahead are not carrying out basic maintenance resulting in entire towns of up to 29000 people facing endless cancellations. And this is happening just over a year after the months long strike !?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@simonkalavazides6422]

I wonder if they will bring out BL2, BL3 and so on… 🤔🤣

[@wasted-blaster.]

I hope for a BLT!

[@87CVH]

Via Camberwell and Peckham

[@quantisedspace7047]

I hope not. All these branches will dilute from it being a "line".

[@SouthCoastBusesAndTrains]

that actually looks rlly nice

[@AFCManUk]

This could be pretty interesting.... A sort of tester to see how many passengers use it, in order to justify the Bakerloo Line Tube extension,

[@christian0405]

Yes! Buses!

[@TimWallace-j9d]

Waterloo was directly connected by bus with Lewisham for most of the last century, until comparatively recently. Routes 1 and 199 were the routes involved, usually one or the other, but occasionally both, although they went via a devious routeing. The main reason Old Kent Road and Lewisham have always been starved of much direct contact with each other relates to the way surface public transport was developed in S.E. London with bus and tram taking different roles and 'corridors'. Westminster and Blackfriars Bridges were fitted with tram tracks, but Waterloo Bridge never was, nor Waterloo Road. Old Kent Road was host to both modes, and it even had its own, relatively small garage (code P) which operated the 21 and 53 in conjunction with other garages, all now closed. The 21 competed with a tram route between Bricklayers Arms, Lewisham and on to Eltham, which was numbered 182 when RT buses replaced the trams in 1962. Cuts and consolidation followed over the years, so the 182, which reached Cannon Street Station via Southwark Bridge, ran for the last time in the 1960s.

[@alexsbusfan]

Finally, a Bakerloo line extension, but on a bus 😁 I was waiting for something like this to happen. The OKR routes are all very popular.

[@telhudson863]

If Bakerloo is extended to Lewisham, how will TfL sort out the overcrowding of the central section?