How Paddington Has Changed On The Tube Map

Paddington has two stations ... hang on, or is it three? No, it's definetlely two tube stations, oh plus the mainline stations, aaaand Crossrail is coming too - that's going to complicate things isn't it?
Sure is! So here's a quick rundown on how it's appeared in 14 different version across 90 years worth of Tube Maps.
The excellent Clarksbury Map Tube Archive is here: www.clarksbury...

[@geofftech2]

At 9:49, i say '2020' instead of 2021, and '2021' instead of '2022'. I'm sure i'm not the only one who feel like the weeks and months have blurred together over the last year, and we've all lost track of time a little ...

[@tolidonorsometing]

I'm sure people went a bit crazy then...

[@borgdylan]

Will they ever connect all of them together via tunnels? I'd not be happy if I had to change through Paddington coming from Heathrow in case the Piccadilly is not running with crossrail still not ready.

[@CCA2020]

Same

[@dansoper]

I assumed this was recorded ages ago and only just edited together. But it makes more sense that you just said that wrong years!

[@AaronD_]

totally understand lets hope we can all recover from this as a society! love you geoff, kept me entertained even with the office videos.

[@martinherrington9499]

And now in 2023 we have a 4-blob Paddington so elongated that it looks like the whole station is a branch of the Elizabeth Line.

[@alimcmurray3428]

An expensive way of getting around this issue would just be to connect the two tube stations in real life with a really long tunnel. I'm happy to set up a Kickstarter for this if anyone's keen...

[@CaseyJonesNumber1]

There's only one tube station proper at Paddington. 😉

[@reptongeek]

As I understand it they are connected, the critical thing for tube challengers is the two separate buildings and this is why both Paddingtons have to be visited

[@pizzaivlife]

They should call it the Paddington and Paddington line

[@gowerarty]

@TheRenaissanceman65 or you could go by tube. It takes under an hour.

[@stevep8773]

Well, it is possible to connect between the three under cover. Although the new entrance to the H&C line is a bit exposed

[@naruciakk]

People: the video about boarding Intercity 125 using contactless was definitely the most niche thing Geoff will ever make. Geoff:

[@PrateekKarandikar]

Hang on, rumour has it that a "Least Used Rubbish Bin on the Underground" video is in the works.

[@WillTheTrainFan]

@@PrateekKarandikar i hope you’re not kidding, I’d really like to see that

[@mxg75]

The title really needed a "You won't believe #7!" to achieve peak BuzzFeed.

[@wadeslea]

'Peak Buzzfeed' would be, "14 Reasons Why Tube Maps Are Racist"

[@griffinrails]

O O “Yes, trains are anti-LGBTQ. Yes, I want them to be called trans. Thank you” is peak buzzfeed.

[@stewartdorrell2506]

Thanks Geoff. The crazy way Paddington was shown in 1964 had a consequence for me in 1965. I arrived in the mainline station from Birmingham as a penniless student heading for a hostel near Westbourne Grove Station. I simply could not find the Metropolitan line station, and having no money for a taxi I walked with a heavy suitcase from Paddington to Westbourne Grove. Perhaps tube map designers should use “ignoramuses” like me in 1965 to test their maps.

[@bryan3550]

Precisely! Good designers start with Murphy's Law then work back from that...

[@UltimateAzumanger]

Did you mean Westbourne Park? There is no Westbourne Grove tube station and there never was such a station.

[@stewartdorrell2506]

@@UltimateAzumanger Thank you for correcting me. Stewart Dorrell

[@anononomous]

Maybe just have one big blob with all the lines going into it labelled "Paddington (good luck)"?

[@HatterDave]

And a shrugging shoulders emoji

[@data4163]

Haha yes

[@carolthomas6334]

So glad that whenever I go to London , I normally start and finish up in Paddington so I don't worry about connecting there too much x

[@CDLTO]

That's my tube map archive that you've linked to! Remarkable that something I haven't touched since high school is still alive.

[@DreamClean]

Nice dude 👍

[@RandomHuman4022]

This is the exact level of nerd I require, and shall adjust future expectations accordingly.

[@mst4309]

This kind of detail picking is something I’m expert at. Glad videos like this about my London-entry station get hundreds of thousands of views.

[@TheNixie1972]

Why am I enjoying this video? I don’t even live in the UK, but watched all 11:05 of this 🥸

[@AWildSnowball]

The 14 different ways confusion has been shown on the tube map

[@pizzaivlife]

just tie the various lines in a knot

[@BTownRailfanPNW]

It’s literally color coded spaghetti... Don’t imagine it

[@AWildSnowball]

@@pizzaivlife put them on a seperate map

[@AWildSnowball]

@@BTownRailfanPNW i already started imagining it :/

[@BTownRailfanPNW]

@@AWildSnowball oh no

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Thank you for this! You, along with several British KZbinrs, are keeping me sane. God Bless!

[@brooklyntrainspotting8464]

Very well done on this video Geoff! You have done such a great job entertaining me and your other fans during these hard times. Your videos are the only thing that keep me going! Great job!

[@paulfaulkner6299]

You have a tick from my blob too. Why am I watching this? I am watching a random video about train lines and maps... The eccentricity of You Tube is fascinating. Keep smiling everyone! It takes all sorts to make the world go round

[@adamgreen7524]

Genuinely interesting - I often look at the map and try to think of a better way to portray paddington when I pass through

[@alasdairmunro1953]

Great one Geoff! As a kid I was fascinated by the tube map, and on rare occasions visiting relatives, went into London from Great Missenden. Always a big adventure.

[@heyokaikaggen6288]

The squares at 5:00 in the 1960 design have just taken me back to the alien cubes of Zelda's Terrahawks. Nostalgia at its finest...

[@avinashbhunjun5429]

Worked here for over a year and my heart always sank when a H&C train had to change to a District line service because it meant more walking from Praed Street LOL

[@colin.d]

You could have shown us what the future representation of Paddington SHOULD look like, for you never know, tfl might just like it so much to copy it!

[@xXPyrophorusXx]

Get out the markers and paper.

[@warbler4954]

I think it's the one on the thumbnail (as I'm writing this).

[@odkres]

​@@warbler4954 I thought he strongly disapproves the two stations being connected, that's what the thumbnail shows

[@PlanetoftheDeaf]

Geoff Marshall addressing an issue I never knew I needed addressing, until Geoff addressed it! Amazing that it took 80 years to represent the Bakerloo Line correctly, showing that it only connects with the District Line station, but it was a fleeting glimpse of accuracy 😂

[@grassytramtracks]

I did know it needed addressing because the in my opinion poor way it's shown on the tube map once caused me to go to the wrong one and I know of at least one of my friends who's done the same thing

[@icdgyixify]

The quickest way from Paddington District line to Paddington H&C is to change at Edgware Road.

[@guyr.6053]

Thanks, Geoff. I finally know how to pronounce Praed Street!

[@yosolo5797]

Surely Paddington should go back to having two or three seperate stations with "Paddington" in their name, especially considering the circle line stops at two of them

[@gergestead5382]

and you also said "as I mentioned back in 1933." that got me the giggles.

[@danielgregory8588]

Love your videos Geoff, keeping me entertained while I'm sick!

[@BernardHumphreyGaskin]

Love your enthusiasm for this topic 👏 🙌

[@hannahrenier1933]

In the best possible way, I would like to contribute congratulations on your SPECTACULARLY fluent triumph of nerdery. If there were a Pulitzer prize for obsessive tube-itis you'd get it. I laughed so much.

[@jcrailwayvideos6588]

There is a cafe next to Paddington that when sat in the cafe, you can here the rumble of the tube stock underneath you, if you exit Paddington via the ramp, it will be on the left, it is called "Garfunkel's"

[@ericathefae]

I don't care one bit about trains usually, nor do I live in England, but I absolutely adore this level of geekery!

[@brunovaillant972]

Vraiment impressionnant avec autant de savoir, de précision dans la démonstration de l'évolution du tracé et des nœuds. Je suis pantois. Vous êtes également très pédagogue. Toujours un plaisir de vous suivre. 👍👍👍😳👌😀

[@1258-Eckhart]

Absolutely correct, when you disembark a train from the West of England, there is an overbridge over all platforms to the H&C, but you go forwards, across the Lawn and down into Bakerloo/District. Of course weirdly, both stations serve the "Circle" Line (which is actually a paperclip line).

[@paulbivand9210]

I'm sure I remember there was a time when the three stations each had separate gatelines. The main entrance to the bakerloo line was onto the mainline station, from where you walked along past the taxi rank along the platform to the Met line station. There was a tunnel through to the circle/district station, but outside the gateline. When they rebuilt the underground elements of the Circle/District and Bakerloo, they put them both behind the gateline. Some of this seems to be reflected in the mapping . Think this is the 1980s refurbishment in the Wikipedia article - bigger than they say as the Circle line entrance and the Lawn were comprehensively changed.

[@jamieslifee]

we now need “The 15 different ways Paddington had been shown on the tube map”

[@mayonaissse]

I don't live in London (only visited it once but was fascinated by the tube) but I still thoroughly enjoyed this video for some reason.

[@frankiii9165]

Very interesting video. Sincerely I like these three iterations: The first Beck Diagram (1931/1933). Real and clear design. The 1997 one (you said 1999 but I found at the LT museum website that this started circa 1997). Clearest design. And finally 1985 to 1987 issues. I don't know but using rings to denote also interchanges to mainline stations clutters the design.

[@MsElleBee]

Thanks for that Geoff ... It helped me figure out what date my underground map that I have framed on my wall is ... it's a 1938!

[@hannahk1306]

As someone who used to regularly change between the H&C/Circle station and National Rail at Paddington, I think it's more helpful to link them even if it's technically less accurate. You've got to remember that the whole point of the tube map is usability not accuracy.

[@grassytramtracks]

But there are usability problems too of not showing that the H&C/Circle station is separate. I once was trying to get to Liverpool street to catch the train to Stansted airport and went into the Bakerloo Circle and District line station, after all it's directly in front of you when you get off an intercity train (which always come in on the lower numbered platforms) and I had no idea that the H&C/Circle station was at the other end of the concourse, as a direct consequence of it being inaccurately shown on the map. In the end I didn't want to leave the gate line (I had a national rail ticket to Stansted airport and was worried the barrier might not let me out, or worse, swallow my ticket) so I just went to Notting Hill Gate and got the central line to Liverpool street. I know that at least one of my friends has also done this and then gone all the way round the wrong way. The H&C station should be shown with a dotted line connection

[@fortythreenorth2518]

London has such a massive network. It's insane how big yet relatively easy to navigate they tube system is.

[@gianlucacapacciola2099]

we need the "Elizabeth Line update!"

[@FramebyFrameanimation]

"Paddington North" , "Paddington South" and "Paddington Mainline" would be way more straightforward

[@rosiefay7283]

But what a clutter all those words would make!

[@warbler4954]

Just having Paddington West would be a good idea! Tokyo has Shinjuku-Nishiguchi metro station which translates to "Shinjuku West Entrance", and then proper Shinjuku metro stations themselves.

[@Elitist20]

"Bring Back Praed Street!"

[@bobblue_west]

@@Elitist20 and put a clear glass panel at street level over the Pread Street junction so we can enjoy all the action.

[@routemaster19]

You have to bear in mind who the maps are primarily for - tourists...I used to travel every day from Seven Sisters to Goldhawk road ((change at Kings Cross) then bus to Acton Green) by far the biggest confusion at Kings Cross were travellers from the Great Northern, LNER, Hull (and Midland) working out which train to take for Paddington. The confusion seeing 2 paddingtons on the maps was unreal. (it just means all trains will go to a Paddington station and it doesn't really matter which one you alight at if going on the Great Western). It's slightly different if you are alighting at Paddington for work or visiting as to which exit is best for you but again you quickly learn what to go for. But for the purposes of maps they really should show Paddington as one interchange station for the benefit of the those who are new or ad hoc users of the system. It may not be accurate for crayonistas but they are not the primary reason for these maps. (despite what they may think themselves!)

[@rogerwhittle2078]

This is a tour de force Geoff, well done! And why am I secretly pleased Harry Beck probably surpassed them all? Probably because Beck truly understood what he was trying to achieve and didn't get side tracked by 'marketing' (or Eliz Purp Cross.) Well done again sir.

[@grendel_nz]

Thank you for showing me that when i arrive from LHR into Paddington, I don't have to haul my wheeled bag up the steps to get to, what i thought was, 'the' (only) tube station. I now see i could walk flat to front of Paddington ML Station concourse and find another tube station entrance :) on my way to KGX/LKX.

[@sydnorth5868]

Harry Beck's whole design philosophy was that geographical accuracy is not relevant. Therefore it doesn't matter whether or not the Bakerloo line is shown inside the Circle line. What was important to Beck was the issue of connectivity. Therefore, those that show the H&C is not connected to the District and Bakerloo are the ones which best represent what Beck was trying to achieve. In recent times those are the 1987 and 1999 maps.

[@Awesome_Transport]

The tube map is very confusing to say the least (Also great vid btw Geoff, keep up the great work :D)

[@simonmcowan6874]

I really suggest the tube map designers get you on board for any future updates, your knowledge and ideas will be invaluable.

[@stephenquinn6485]

Great vid Geoff after lockdown you going to visit Paddington massive changes at the station at the moment was around there on Sunday be great for you to tell us about all the building changea there

[@amethyst7084]

Very interesting. I've kind of noticed how the links at Paddington have been represented over the years, but of course not in this minute detail. 👏 Maybe we can next look at how differently Liverpool Street, Hammersmith or Charing Cross stations have been represented over the years, and why there are two Edgware Road stations. 👍🏾

[@maplady572]

That Hutchinson one is definitely clunky and uncomfortable on the eye! Super vid, very informative and interesting! I love the evolution of the map. I am quite smitten by Harry Beck's style but I do love a nice current map too. Better still will be the day when I can actually use one again, looking forward to that!

[@thisis_mudchute]

Agreed. I think its worth mentioning that TfL advertised his map as ‘easy to read’ like whattt?

[@michaeldwyer3352]

Many thanks for this clarification/update. This seems a good moment to inform followers of the Purple/Elizabeth/Crossrail saga that today the newly constructed Paddington platforms joined the other 8 central stations in entering the 12 week handover process from the contractors to TFL. This means that from June test trialing can begin prior to opening the system early next year.

[@lawrenceasznee5036]

@Geoff Marshall you have been brilliant through CORONAVIRUS MADE ME FEEL HAPPY THANK YOU GEOFF

[@dominicmarten]

Watching this now… its 5 blobs 🤣 as you predicted

[@brentonf8178]

I'm Canadian, only ever been on a train a handful of times. I genuinely don't know why I watch these videos... But I don't think I'll stop

[@iancoster]

Geoff, your hated 1960 map by Hutchinson was, I believe, devised by Harold Hutchinson who at the time was the publicity officer for London Transport, in the days when that was considered to be an important position within LT. My aunt, Miss Gladys Long, was his secretary for many years and a few months before the first lockdown I donated a number of items, including her 40+ years long service certificate, to the LT museum.

[@Enviri]

the 2012 tube map did it accurately with connecterblobs, they highlighted the H&C Paddington line as orange with the distance of how far away the stations are to show its a seperate station

[@Hammondfreak]

Before the Lizline is completed it would be nice if you submitted your own representation for Paddington on the tube map. It needs a simple and clear approach to what seems to have been a complicated problem over the years. In fact you could do the whole map - "Designed by Geoff Marshall" That would be good!

[@happytravelling24]

Thanks for presenting that Geoff. I was thinking of an idea which would be perfect for a video, talking about announcements that need to be improved like one at Walthamstow Queens Road on the Overground, not mentioning to change for the Victoria, bus services and the Overground from Walthamstow Central Station and Bus Station.

[@bobidou23]

I think I like the 1987 and 1999 versions the best - the Bakerloo Line "dipping" in is probably one of those things that I'd expect a diagram to abstract away, but it is valuable to distinguish between the two stations, and having separating them vertically seems like the right way

[@NigelDraycott]

11 minutes basically about connector blobs, and yes I watched it all

[@nicholasroberts6954]

Errr . . . the station entrance at Hammersmith has, for as long as I can remember (Since the '60s) had a overhead glass sign showing "Hammersmith and City" line. And I was a frequent user in the 1980s of the Ladbroke Grove to Paddington (Main line) section and it was always known then as the Hammersmith and City Line, although the glass signs always had the same colour (Deep reddy purple) as the main Metropolitan line.

[@clairexxx7473]

Im starting to think I dont know myself anymore, because found this ridiculously interesting!!😍😍 xx

[@frankwales]

Just out of shot, Edgware Road and Edgware Road are going: “what are we, chopped liver?”

[@bobblue_west]

Thank goodness they renamed the station to "Shepherds Bush MARKET".

[@KyrilPG]

0:20 E.T. called and wants his finger back ! I love and binge watch your videos. This one's no exception : interesting and fun. Greetings from another freakishly long finger guy from Paris. (By the way, would you cover the Grand Paris Express current advancements and future openings like you did with Elizabeth line ? That would be simply be awesome !)

[@guillaumemaurice3503]

Interesting information. Thank you for sharing this video Geoff.

[@themeatshow]

Thanks so much for this video. I will be a tourist this summer, trying to figure out how to get to my hotel from Heathrow, and I could not for the life of me figure out what was going on at Paddington from the Tube map.

[@JackAaronOestergaardChurchill]

Would love you see your version of the Tube Map! The Marshall Map

[@curlybrownliz]

Not the Marshall Plan (?!)

[@jamesmacdonald4637]

Take a drink every time Geoff says 'connector blob' 🍻

[@scottc1589]

To me, this is a great example of new designers ignoring the lessons learned by previous designers. How many times does something get 'improved,' fixing one or two perceived design flaws only to have several things that worked great on the previous model redesigned, for no apparent reason, and which have now become a problem? Ahh, "progress!"

[@patspadd8243]

Hello Geoff and well done for reaching 210K subs and my fav is the latest one with the disable indicators that you didn’t mention and I’ve noticed the changes over the years with Paddington on the map as it’s so mixed up that I’d like to call it puddington because it’s like a mixed up pudding hey

[@wteff8586]

I found it quite interesting what you said about the ticket gates since in Hamburg we do not have these and it would have never occurred to me that different parts of a station that serve different lines should not be linked for some reason. Then again if they aren't directly connected maybe another type of connection (slightly grey or dotted for example) seems to make sense to me.

[@bogomilbg]

Geoff thanks for the video. For me all maps after 2011 is correct for one only reason: If you are on Circle line and coming from Kensington train terminates at Edgware Rd 5-6 platforms. That's the reason that Edgware and Paddington have 2 yellow lines. Second reason: You maybe know, there's some trains on route Hammersmith - Edgware Rd and back. This trains a typical yellow trains on 1-3 platfroms. When I was in London February 2019, I know that one of all platforms is only for District trains from/to Tennis. That platform separates 1-3 and 5-6 platform termination trains.

[@Ratsarerlycool]

“For the first time: 4 connecter blobs” Meanwhile in paris: *laughs in saint lazare station* P.s.: depending on the map its 6 or 7 but rn one of the connection tunnels is closed temporarily

[@SebPlaysAnything]

Châtelet as well

[@Nooticus]

HAHAHA YESSSS

[@beeble2003]

@@SebPlaysAnything And Les Halles.

[@paulbennett772]

I found the Metro dead easy - when I was 17

[@lapiswake6583]

I got so confused when I went to Paddington in 2018, a week before HSTs out of there ended. I arrived at Paddington on the Bakerloo and found the labyrinth, then left the station and went wandering to find the other station (because I was aware that there were 2 paddington stations), and ended up getting a member of staff confused because I went in the District and Circle entrance and asked about it there (there being no labyrinth at the district and circle entrance). So I had to find my way across the street to Paddington mainline station to do trainspotting, then before I left to Acton Central, I found the H&C/Circle entrance and its labyrinth. So confusing.

[@Need1738]

Walking from paddington circle and district station north to the other station is a pain

[@jonistan9268]

In a perfect world, purple trains wouldn't even be on a tube map.

[@ClydebridgeStation]

Also notice ,i think the 1933 map, they incorrectly showed Edgware Road Bakerloo as having interchange with Edgware Road District and Circle and H&C.

[@highpath4776]

there might have been ticketing was it an underground map or a lptb map ?

[@sixtysecondvlog]

i love how it's changed over the years! I think it definitely looks better when it's a tidier map.

[@bobblue_west]

Great video. Only thought re Bakerloo Line dipping underneath. Harry Beck's idea was it doesn't matter what's happening with the tunnels/tubes in reality. What's needed a "circuit diagram" of stations and lines. *There are loads of places which don't accurately show real-world geography.* Examples...(I'm sure there are 100s) 1) the new Central Line distortion is UGLY. Any Londoner knows Oxford St -> Bond St -> Marble Arch -> Lanc Gate etc are all in a line along Oxford Street and Bayswater Rd. Now we have a ugly dip suggesting Marble Arch is south of Bond St. Yuck! And Lanc gate is even further south! 2) Notting Hill Gate is not due south of Bayswater. 3) Northern Line, north of Finchley Central is actually straighter to Mill Hill East geographically. The High Barnet leg should be angled. and so on....

[@HM...333]

I like that you are so intrigued by the tube map, but remember the tube map is not geographicly accurate, think about regent's park and Camden town been near in real life but the large distance they are on the map. Anyway great and very informative video

[@timogul]

I still want the tube map that's just a few vertical alphabetized lists with colored lines linking up every station to the ones that it's connected to.

[@CatalystCentral]

I work at Paddington! This is well cool!

[@ennythinn]

The circle line at Paddington has caught me out several times. Waiting for a train to go to Victoria, not knowing I'm on the wrong circle line platform.

[@michaeldwyer3352]

savvy Londoners would never use the Circle Line to get from Paddington to Victoria. The Bakerloo with a change to the Victoria line at Oxford Circus would be a more efficient option. Or the 38 bus. Or a taxi. Cheers

[@ennythinn]

@@michaeldwyer3352 I was lazy. I didn't want to change lines :D.

[@grassytramtracks]

​@@michaeldwyer3352 depends on the time of year. The circle line is air conditioned, whereas the bakerloo and Victoria lines are super hot

[@charlesarnold4963]

That was really interesting although a bit nerdy! I feel it is worth updating this video, now that the purple line is a through service. I am looking at the Tube Map app on an iPad and it shows Paddington as 4 stations with internal Interchange, according to the symbol definitions in the bottom left corner. I imagine you are a little outraged at this?

[@GermanPerfectionist]

Take a shot every time he says ‘connector blob’ 😂

[@svenlakemeier]

Welcome to "Geoff has no footage left for new videos" :)

[@geofftech2]

The struggle is real. 😮

[@benedettobruno1669]

@@geofftech2 Well, well, well, you could make a video asking your subscribers whether they think the Docklands Light Railway should be split into 5 different lines each with its own name and colour or leave it all as it is. I know the names I'd give the 5 lines: Greenwich Line, Beckton Line, Woolwich Line, Bow Line, Stratford Line. But I haven't decided yet about the 5 different colours.

[@allenwilliams1306]

@@benedettobruno1669 Just use route numbers.

[@benedettobruno1669]

@@allenwilliams1306 Do you mean D1, D2, D3, D4, D5?

[@RegebroRepairs]

Text: "Paddington Bishops Road" My brain: "Paddington's Road Mishaps". I guess the bear is learning to drive?

[@ChrisInTheNorth]

You skip over the 1970s.. When I was about 8 (1973) I remember waiting for an hour with my Mum on the District/Circle platforms for a train to Hammersmith before deciding we might be on the wrong platform. I'm pretty sure the map then showed the Purple, yellow and Green under the SAME CIRCLE.. totally wrong of course! I do remember having a very pleasant chat with my mum during that hour, so I'm not bitter!

[@LocoMotive142]

It's one of those occasions where you stare at a word for too long and it loses its visual identity and meaning to become squiggles, especially when three turn up at once on one map! And if you say it three times the bear will appear, probably.

[@theowinters6314]

I think your timeline might be a little bit off, the map I have is dated Dec 2009, but shows the three connection stations from the 2011 map. And it actually got me, as I needed to take the H&C somewhere, so entered at the Circle Line gate, not realizing just how long of a walk it was to the actual line I wanted.

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

I noticed that nowadays, Announcements on the Hammersmith and City Line and on the Circle line via St Pancras say "Change for national Rail services" while the lower level London underground stations the District and Circle line via Victoria say "Change for the Bakerloo line and national Rail Services"

[@edward6206]

Great video To be fair the 2018 map is very clean and easy to understand

[@JohannaInTheCorner]

Cmon Geoff, you know that the first principles of the Beck style map was to ignore geography, the Bakerloo kink, is a kink in YOUR think. I’m not sure I have heard you comment how the northern ends of the Northern and Piccadilly lines make them look way more east than they are, nor the upward slant of the district line is misrepresenting almost as much as the Hainault loop! Time is relative, tube map stations doubly so. It is interesting to see the progression though and look forward to its next evolution, along with your next video. Thank you.

[@ChrisBillig]

TFL's Rail and Tube map gets it pretty right. It's three connected blobs, but one is the mainline station, one is just the H&C/Circle Line station, and one is the Bakerloo intersecting Circle and District as one blob together.

[@arthurgiles379]

Is there content in talking about the different ways different announcements from different companies pronounce Marylebone?

[@zork999]

The new Crossrail station has a direct connection to the Bakerloo line through a new underground passage but not to the others. So, once the central tunnel section is open, but before through running for CrossPurpEliz, You would have: 1) One standalone station for H&C/Circle 2) One standalone station for TFL Rail (Western) 3) Three interconnected stations for TFL Rail (Central), Bakerloo, and District/CIrcle Plus, of course, they all connect to Paddington Mainline Station. After through running commences you get rid of #2.

[@Dixavd]

I like it when they connect them all with lines-between-circles even if it is technically incorrect because I think it reads more clearly. I'm sure foreigners to London find it confusing when they are shown with separated circles.

[@grassytramtracks]

But they aren't physically connected, so making it look like they are is confusing and unintuitive and I only learnt that they aren't when I went to the wrong one, and I know I'm not the only one to have made this mistake, in my opinion as a direct consequence of the map not showing that they're separate. It should be shown with a dotted like that the H&C station is separate

[@MattiLiljaniemi]

The Tube Map is primarily a travel planning tool. Someone planning a journey doesn't really care at all where the Bakerloo curves and goes - just that they can change at Paddington to whatever line they need to get where they're going.

[@PeterStilwell]

Steady on there

[@odkres]

Surely the two stations being separate can be an important part of the information for that planning and can be conveyed with the curve? Though it's not necessarily the only way. Kaikenlaisista paikoista sitä ittensä juutuubissa löytääkin, vaikken Lontoosta ja metrosta mitään tiiäkään. Ja että vielä veteraanijatkislaisenkin bongaa, hep!

[@quantisedspace7047]

Yes, they do care..There are just too many ways that they can pick the wrong station to change at. Charing cross for changing between N and B..Better to use Embankment, possibly looping back. Queensway to Bayswater:!just walk. Piccadilly to Circle at Gloucester Road. No, change onto the subsurface lines at B Court.

[@grassytramtracks]

Yes I do care, the fact that it's two separate stations is very useful and important information if you need to change between them

[@williamhuang8309]

10:10 You should see how they do things on the Rail and Tube service map that includes National Rail. The Bakerloo does dip down below the H&C and is connected to the District (which is correct). However, Bakerloo Edgware Road is wrong. The H&C line station is connected to the other station, but this could be solved by disconnecting it from the rest of Paddington. GWR, TfL Rail and Heathrow Express services come off another blob that is connected to the other Paddington blobs. The NR blob is placed below the other two blobs, so it'll be easy to run TfL Rail through. The three blobs are arranged in an arrow formation, like this: >

[@pmberry]

You make a good point that it's not the Tube Map (and hasn't been for some time); it's the TfL Map.