Geology and the Munsell Color System

[@Paint_The_Future]

Did you SKIP THROUGH your wife's very important clay info? Someone is sleeping on the sofa tonight.

[@John_Buckson]

Hoe dare he I wanted to hear the clwyd info!

[@gneissname]

Lol, she was in on the joke. I had her listen to the rough edit and I said I might want to trim it a bit and she suggested it would just be funny if I keep it in but sped it up. Our whole recording of us talking about everything was about an hour btw.

[@abyssaljam441]

​@@John_BucksonWelsh clay is the best clay.

[@abyssaljam441]

​@@gneissnamebut now I want to learn about clay...

[@jonahbritton3657]

​@@gneissnamerelease the clay cut

[@burstofsanity]

Fun fact: if you slow down the video to 0.25x you can make out the interesting clay facts.

[@abyssaljam441]

Well it wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be... But then again is was basically it's gray because clay retains water so depleats the iron. Basically info mentioned in other part of the video

[@felidaefatalis]

THANK YOU

[@thatsstoguy]

and after the sped up part they both sound very drunk at 0.25 speed

[@alexdavidson7498]

Thx!

[@wChris_]

Terracotta was previously called Hardened Clay so its not that far of to assume its soil.

[@erinkarp]

Plus it spawns naturally in mesa biomes

[@thwartificer]

You can still smelt clay blocks into terracotta

[@Projekt_Nightmare]

I want harden clay back

[@woegarden]

loving this video as a a person with colorblindness, i'm kind of having to convert the colors in my brain and its doing some sort of primal thing because this is just so fascinating.

[@gneissname]

I do plan to make a video on color blindness sometime. I find it very interesting.

[@woegarden]

@@gneissname i would be happy to provide an account of my specific experience if you need!

[@gneissname]

Yeah absolutely. Not sure how fast I’ll get to it but I have been thinking about it for a while.

[@digitaldritten]

​@@woegarden out of curiosity, what type of colorblindness do you have?

[@aikorrana9455]

@@gneissnameIf @woegarden is red-green, I could give an insight on blue-yellow.

[@Mikelaxo]

Most times rock colors are so mild that when someone tells you "yeah, this rock is green" it just feels pike gaslighting

[@gavin5410]

I didn't expect your color theory videos and your geology videos to ever come together, but it makes perfect sense. This was really cool to learn about!

[@xislomega242]

The Gneiss couple both have very nice lovely voices!

[@MissEvieYT]

Transcript of the very important clay information, best I could hear: "That is very grey, and so and we get deeper and deeper into the soil profile, uh, you're usually having some amount of water being retained, you know? Whether it's a (inaudible) water table, a seasonally high water table, just a... high aquifer, high water table -- will grey out (inaudible) colors. So that could very easily be below the 10YR 4/3, 3/3, 5/4

[@Inspirator_AG112]

I think the first "(inaudible)" is 'perched'.

[@wtolman]

It's so interesting witnessing how different practices can apply to one another. it makes perfect sense that you'd need to keep track of soil color to study it but I never thought about how a color system I had to learn for graphic design and color theory would apply to something like geology.

[@gneissname]

That’s cool, I learned about it from the geology side and the learned of its other applications.

[@ENDESGA]

8:16 that scared the living soul out of me, good lord hahaha

[@gneissname]

We were chuckling at my wife’s “fun fact” and I went to put the explosive text on the screen but my daughter recommended the car crash.

[@ENDESGA]

@@gneissname it's fantastic! I laughed a lot, but the volume difference between your softly spoken wife to the crash gave me a momentary heart-attack lmao

[@Addsomehappy]

​@@gneissnameyour family sure makes your videos more chaotic, even in the editing stage

[@WanderTheNomad]

​@@gneissnameI just imagine your daughter pressing a big red button and having that car crash happen while you're recording rather than having it edited in.

[@christophfischer2773]

I was NOT prepared for that fun fact

[@cleopatinea4771]

Im a colorblind woman, your videos always fascinate me because you talk about something I cant really experience. Your way of explaining color is so... easy to understand(?) like, I dont know how to explain it, in the video where you showed how the colors are distributed in a cylinder, it totally changed my perspective in relation to colors. not much to say other than thank you, really ty so much, amazing work

[@gneissname]

I glad. I actually had a similar experience with a colleague recently. They are red green color blind, they aren’t sure what specific type. We ended up talking about color pickers in a program we were using and I explained how the colors were organized and it “clicked” for him. If you don’t mind, what type of color blindness do you have?

[@cleopatinea4771]

@@gneissname I have tritanopia, yellow blue colorblindness I saw other comment where you said that are interested in making a video about this topic, I can help in any sort of way related to my type :)

[@gneissname]

Very interesting, I have not met anyone with that type before. Ill be sure to reach out for that episode.

[@ratlinggull2223]

@@cleopatinea4771 woah, tri is pretty rare. I have a friend who's protanopic, and I have asked him for help with an art project.

[@Empyrean55]

​@cleopatinea4771 I know that about 10% of people have colourblindness but I always get so excited when the topic comes up! I have deutranomaly :D

[@eightheve]

When she showed the paleosal(?) I immediately though "that looks like the hills near where I live" and then when she mentioned my town by name in the very next sentence it blew my mind. what a funny coincidence

[@Timmzy27]

I would like a block in Minecraft that would be a few layers of maybe some sort of brownish stone like block so the world doesn't just go from brown to grey instantly.

[@gneissname]

Agreed. I talk about soil horizons in the dirt episode a few years ago. Minecraft basically skips all the middle horizons.

[@danatronics9039]

I would love to see a full Minecraft geology overhaul mod.

[@Shako_Lamb]

I'm a student in a graduate historic architecture preservation program and we use Munsell to describe brick and stone masonry. Pretty cool since it's just earth materials in a human-shaped form.

[@JessmanChicken86]

"Colors of Dirt" sounds like a math rock album I would get really into.

[@richardpointer]

Headphone warning at 8:20. Wow that hurt.

[@leodekalb2380]

Fascinating. It's not within the scope of what you do, but now as a potter/ceramicist I want a chance to talk to a soil scientist/geologist about clay and get another perspective on it, given that you skipped a bit of clay info there

[@gneissname]

Ill probably talk about clay in a separate episode sometime but if you have any questions I would be happy to answer or ask my wife.

[@geologian5066]

I do geology, what sort of questions were you curious about?

[@geologian5066]

Use this all the time in the field for soils. I'm glad you touched on the GLEY section, the geology focused Munsell reference book throws a lot of the more unique colors - "P", "G", "B" combinations - into GLEY and I've never heard it described outside of geology and would love for someone to expand on that more.

[@LokarinOn]

I cannot describe how much I like this channel haha. Really loved to see the actual book in real life and to see your skills in Minecraft get even better to represent it's contents in game!

[@Racrdude24]

Videos like this are what youtube was made for. You have taken knowledge that most people never even knew was out there, put it all together, and presented it in a way that everyone could understand. I love it!!!

[@connorwilcox146]

I’ve been an archaeologist for about 5 years now and this is the first time I’ve actually been interested enough to learn the purpose of Munsell coloring, your channel makes this info very digestible!

[@AJMansfield1]

The munsell color space is also still used for the Farnsworth-Munsell 100 Hue color vision test. Normally the test is used in optometry for measuring the type and extent of a patient's colorblindness, but it's also used for the complete opposite purpose too: I had to take a FM100 test once as part of a job interview at a paint company, to verify that I had full color vision without any latent deficiencies.

[@Dingyfried]

I loved this! Soils and soil testing is a big part of my IRL job, but always in a structural and/or groundwater flow capacity - never in terms of composition so this answered like 50 big questions I've always been curious about! [starts chanting] More Igneous Rex!... More Igneous Rex!...

[@aikabackchannel1]

at 8:17 almost had a heart attack with that loud car crash sound thx

[@lollertoaster]

Ending a conversation with your wife with "it was nice meeting you", I'm dying laughing.

[@heathers7274]

As an archeologist who uses munsels in the field, this made me happy :)

[@sliceofardath152]

Geology AND colors? Awesome!!

[@iamfuturetrunks]

Something Mojang could add is different colored sand blocks. Since in the real world we already have different colored sands around the world. We don't just have the regular "white" sand or "red" sand, we actually have Orange, purple, gray, black, green, dark brown, pink, and an actual white sand beaches around the world right now. That would be awesome if we got those added in even if those areas were very rare or hard to find would be fun to add those to the game as well.

[@CriticalMonkey623]

I love how this video was both a super interesting deep dive into the overlap between colour theory and geology, and also a chance for your wife to flex her vast knowledge of soils. I've been going through all your content, and this channel is a lovely use of minecraft as an educational tool. Keep it up!

[@user-xsn5ozskwg]

I don't think anyone could have imagined Minecraft of all things would be such a wonderful tool used to visualise these things. You're amazing, Gneiss, and thank you for bringing your wife on to teach us about soil (and clay!)

[@refl9630]

I've been waiting for some geology from this channel. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the whole digital colour tangent. But this is such a gneiss name for geology content

[@Miss_Trillium]

11:52 woo Oregon represent! The painted hills are just gorgeous

[@Tomskione]

Dude, I’ve just found your channel after writing my uni dissertation on munsell colour of soil! Can’t wait to watch more of your stuff

[@courygaffney4408]

The fun fact title card was very much appreciated

[@AbusedAlarmClock]

This is a pretty good video about soil color! In my job working for an engineering firm, we do a lot of wetland delineations in streams so of course our very expensive Munsell comes out every time we have to identify a soil. My favorite part of the whole delineation process. Least favorite is digging the 1.5 ft hole lol

[@nathanong]

This is so nerdy i love it

[@ShayanQ]

I love this! Who knew just colour can tell us so much about soil

[@binchamers]

Dude I had hot tea in my hand and the fun fact sound almost made me drop it the way that jumpscared me

[@eldrakos1160]

i was listening to this to fall asleep, 8:18 scared the livimg shit out of me

[@starling333]

Your channel is definitely in my top 5 cozy!

[@IgneousExtrusive]

Holy crap, this couldn't have come at a better time! I just had a lecture that included a brief overview of the munsell color system.

[@dialog_box]

10:46 maan i wanted to hear the super important clay info! D:

[@Miss_Trillium]

I'm 10 months late, but if you slow it down to 0.25x speed, you can actually hear it! She talked about water tables mostly

[@polarmuffin6579]

Archaeology uses munsell all the time it's such a fun book for soil colors!

[@sheepishly6942]

My favorite sort of content, Minecraft crossed over with some information I will never have any use for but am utterly fascinated by.

[@santoast24]

Im a TA for a soils class this semester, and tomorrow I need to make an introduction... well... introducing myself to the students via our sorta class-homepage thing I know what video Im gotta embed! Perfect timing too, and so good cus it kinda helps you understand all the stuff the proffesor usually just fails to mention, and so kids are usually confused when they get to the labs, this should help a ton

[@gneissname]

That’s cool. Hope it helps. If the world due loss would be helpful for anything I could make that available too.

[@gammagalaxy8103]

Thanks for giving me flashbacks to archaeology field school. I practically have the YR ranges memorized thanks to that.

[@erinkarp]

This is so cool! I had no idea Munsell made a specific sheet for soil colors

[@sippingthe]

that fun fact sound effect was brutal, i was driving😂😂

I just fell asleep during the "boring billion" in your geologic timescale video and woke up to a car crash. Very fitting, but also: DANG, that is loud!

[@obansrinathan]

I love dirt! I did a bit of soil stuff in high school (shout-out Environthon), including colour, texture, and reactivity with acid and it was always great to put some dirt on the munsell charts. I hadn’t realized it was used elsewhere.

[@DylanDrinksWater]

The crossover we never new we needed

[@damson1115]

Watching this video very late at night about to fall asleep but the fun fact was just so good im wide awake now

[@verditerthistle]

OMFG THESE ARE ALL MY FAVOURITE THINGS !!!!!!!!! I loveee soil it’s so cool and also minecraft and color T_T ahhhhh i’m exploding with happiness!!! ✨ I love moss and it’s so cool to see how different mosses prefer different types of soil, and how the quality and diversity of mosses can indicate soil health of an area!!!! I also LOVE earth pigments and it’s amazing how the color of the soil is determined by the iron & manganese content - iron oxides & ochres are some of my favourite pigments to paint with 🎨 I have this book called Natures Palette, it’s published by princeton, & it goes through a set of colors for paints & where those hues appear in the wild, across minerals, flora, & fauna. it’s an expansion upon Werner’s nomenclature of colors and it’s really beautiful and informative!! I highly reccomend anyone checks it out if you’re interest is piqued from what i’ve said :)

[@W1ntumn]

every video from you is so cool, the fact that your wife played a big part in this videos is so cool.

[@chriscook509]

I usually think of "dirt"in minecraft as loess. Im used to in the midwest a layer of brown silty clay up to about 20 feet thick. Till tends to be gray.

[@refl9630]

I live in a place with lots of iron rich red soil. I used to see brown dirt as a strange anomaly.

[@AnmAtAnm]

The car crash was a jump scare when watching otherwise calm videos in bed.

[@alexgraham108]

Sheldon & Amy Cooper vibes! Killin it Gneiss!! Amazing content my dude!

[@anj000]

8:17 od god. The jump scare. Yeah, of course I've read the description AFTER I got jumped by a fun fact.

[@hjohnson966]

I got jumpscared by that fun fact moment

[@thecloudwyrm7966]

Gneiss Name I love you your content is exactly what my brain likes

[@F4ngel]

That's really interesting. It's amazing how much we can deduce with only the colour. Did you know that metals and elements also burn at different colours? For example to simplify, iron burns at yellow-orange, copper burns green, aluminium silver white etc. Knowing this we can look at stars through satellites and telescopes and we can determine what elements are burning in that particular star just from the light that is detected from it. It's called astronomical spectroscopy if anyone wants to jump down the rabbit hole of further research.

[@gneissname]

Odd that you mention that because it will come up in a video soon.

[@F4ngel]

@@gneissname That's awesome, looking forward to it :)

[@TheCoffeeBeanz]

Hi gneiss wife!

[@sugarrookieart]

Disliking for the insanely loud mixing on that car crash noise at around 8:20

[@nodthenbow]

Man loves rocks so much he's probably excited to get kidney stones

[@potassiumpower8821]

That child is going to be an expert geologist

[@boio_]

Ayo, first time I come across the Munsell Colour Syst. outside classes, even here in Atacama its useful. Didn't know it was that cool in it's creation and characteristics tho!

[@loyallemons2399]

I would like to hear the clay rant

[@isaacnelson563]

#giveustheclayrant

[@kala_asi]

the gneiss cinematic universe expands!

[@Autumn_Actually]

This was awesome, I love the science of things people take for granted (or should I say granite?). It was nice (or should I say Gneiss?) to get that guest star expert in, too! What a power couple: stone and soil!

[@taylorpendley6643]

0.25 play back speed for "Very important clay info." 😆

[@real_Clone_Gordon_Freeman]

Not sure if you'd ever go out into other games in regards to geology stuff but you mentioning Badlands made me wonder what it would be like if you covered games like Team Fortress 2 and Half Life 1 for their geological makeup

[@gneissname]

I’ve thought about it, I would like to at least try and see if I can make it interesting.

[@real_Clone_Gordon_Freeman]

@@gneissname I for one would be a major supporter of your outsourcing of gaming geology. Personally as a massive fan of Black Mesa I think the rocks were a bit too red to be New Mexico desert but I'd love to see your take. Maybe you could even mix in a bit of geography and try and pinpoint where in the world the Black Mesa Research Facility is based on it's geological makeup

[@MichaelPohoreski]

RIP headphones 8:17 😕

[@dranorter]

Wow, I had thought about asking you to make a crossover between geology and color theory!

[@dranorter]

Very cool episode! Gneiss to have a second person, changes the energy. Here's what I was going to ask you about: Do you think geologists have a different sense of color after looking at rocks for awhile? Like, sure, rocks can be colorful, but it seems like subtler color variations pop out more clearly to someone who has the training and experience. A rock I might think of as "a different grey", my mom would call blue or green. And this is sort of why Minecraft stone is the way it is... it's representing the fact that most people look at stone and just kind of see the same thing.

[@MemphiStig]

Yeah, I read that sound warning too late! This answers a few questions I've had about soil for a while. Well, it's the surface layer of the answer.

[@Foxttellio]

Being a soil tester, this is interesting

[@Pit31415]

8:16 please lower the volume next time 😵

[@gneissname]

Yes sorry! I did lower it but didn’t go back to listen to with headphones to see if it was enough.

[@qqweebird]

if the munsell color system for soil classification has no fans then i am dead

[@DorkOrc]

I loved that! So engaging and super interesting.

[@robson7017]

Personally, I was astonished to learn that there are no redoxomorphic features in minecraft dirt (if you consider the grey spots gravel).

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

I actually saw some purple sand on the Polish coastal beaches, though those were very small and rare. (like less than 15x5cm on the surface)

[@russellg1473]

Fuck man I never had any idea I could find dirt to be so enthralling

[@ThrarmAnimation]

i literally just figured out how to pronounce your username qhen you said it, ive been watching this channel for months and it just clicked

[@quixotic6854]

we use this same system in archaeology for the same purpose: for soil color while recording stratigraphy during excavations! I had a mini heart attack when they showed their munsell soil book because its the same exact one i've used in my college classes 😭

[@hamburgerbroz6439]

im so glad i can hear the clay facts at 0.25x speed... i got so disappointed when it was sped up XD

[@jkelley012]

Amazing video! Speaking of minecraft and the colour of soil; have you ever considered doing some sort of video about how the local soil colour of various youtubers influences their terraforming style? For instance I notice while watching HermitCraft that PearlescentMoon tends to use a much redder/yellower palette of terraforming blocks than the other members, that I'd associate more with Australia. (Being Australian and seeing early paintings of our landscape done by Europeans, many of them just seem 'wrong' in terms of their colour palette - too grey/blue/green.)

[@gneissname]

I hadn't, but that could be interesting.

[@misandre]

geologist husband and wife is so goals

[@key_bounce]

I actually \*really enjoy* the munsell space, just because of the "perceptual uniformity" -- I hate the whole "bright blue is dark" behavior of other systems. Thank you for bringing it to a little more attention. Do you have a color world where the blocks are placed around the munsell layout? Yes, I know that 2x5 lack any "3" factor like the other systems, and there's no real good work-around; yes, I know you'd have to make it expanded out a lot to account for the clustering around the greys. The good part is that it would show where the "missing colors" are really simply. Also: How much of minecraft is along the 10 YR / 10 B line? I was very surprised to find that the soil colors seem to all be found on that.

[@gneissname]

I did think about it but I haven’t found an automated way to convert RGB or a lab space into munsell. I plan to convert everything into lab space though.

[@key_bounce]

Only system I ever found was using an icc profile that had munsell colors mapped to the Lab locations, and using interpolation for the rest. Interestingly, I found a Munsell-lab color space profile at one point. If you look at a Lab chart, the angles do not maintain a constant hue, and blue-turns-purple is one example of where the color changes greatly. (Water was one color that changes; fire was the other side that has a massive change). There was also problems of chroma not quite being maintained with radius. This profile was built to fix that -- angles kept constant hue, distance kept constant chroma, and there was no mathematical formula for it, only a few mapped colors and interpolation for the rest. @@gneissname

[@dj_enby]

welcome home! i hope you can get your basement sorted

[@gneissname]

Thank you. Luckily most of what was kept down there I made sure was off the floor so the main damage is the walls and flooring. All the doors are warped and need to be replaced.

[@dj_enby]

@@gneissname Agh not fun at all 😞 I’m glad to hear it wasn’t a total loss at least!

[@frederiklenk7756]

Ayy lets go we’re getting into perceptual uniform colour systems. Not sure if you Saw my comment on a previous video But im excited about this either way

[@gneissname]

I’m excited about it too. I have a few other videos I want to get out before that. Too many ideas and too little time.

[@Archi0fficial]

bro has the smartest wife on earth

[@nak_attak]

You mentioned color is different based on people's perception of them. Because of this, wouldnt it make soils hard to color unobjectively? One person might say the soil looks closer to color A, but someone else might say it looks closer to color B. Is there a system to unobjectively compare colors that is used, such as a computer program taking an average color directly from a photograph?

[@gneissname]

Yes, even with the munsell cards, soil scientist will argue about a color and it’s very subjective. To get an objective answer you could take a picture which had a target of known color with it and if you knew all the settings of your camera you could maybe get there. It doable in a lab but field work makes everything harder.

[@salmelo16]

Would you consider doing a video on CIELAB, or another more modern perception-linear color space?

[@gneissname]

Absolutely. I excited to move onto the lab spaces.

[@TheeSlickShady_Dave_K]

I love learning things that can be demonstrated by using Minecraft A most excellent video! thank you

[@creeperkinght1144]

From this data, I would assume if Minecraft were in the real world, or rather had a real world equivalent, it would likely be the Americas, moreover the North and South continent, due to common presence of iron and copper and having very similar biome variety, especially considering the more common biomes being more temperate forests with a mix of plains and mountains (sound familiar) and with jungles being more rare, and swamps usually clumped together in certain areas. One would assume that bamboo would throw it off due to it being so common in Asia, but there is a presence of bamboo in the southeast area of the North America. Even the desert is qualified as well with the whole Midwest and near Central America. Of course it's a guess, so who knows.

[@flamewave64]

the fun fact crash made me lol

[@derekw8039]

That ending made my day 😍

[@jadetryingtochill1259]

I’ve never been on this channel before nor have a watch this video yet I’ll do that later when I actually have time I’m trying to go to bed but it is funny that seconds after I switch my phone to be in black-and-white for the evening open KZbin and this is the first video in the recommended

[@memyselfishness]

I'm from Bend! I didn't know we had special soils?!?