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[@averybrooks2099]

I think the reason you want to refactor when taking over a legacy base code is that you can more easily figure out what architecture you're dealing with. At the end you know exactly what the code is capable of doing and what it's not intended for. Then it's basically a brain storming session to see what you want to keep, what you want do discard, upgrade and move on to your sprints. In some cases it's a complete dump if you find out there is some limitations you can't afford in the future. It feels like a big waste but let me tell you grabbing onto some legacy and trying to make it work when there are new free products out there can really drain a project.

[@noomade]

George: "It's not dictatorial" Also George: "It's a complete dictatorship"

[@mrgyani]

​​@@imadepoohhe said, Elon runs Twitter the same way. And I don't see how that is a good thing. Set aside the dictatorship, but how can politics be good? As a programmer, I would like the security that if I do good work, I wouldn't have to play office politics to survive. I wish George explained himself a bit here. Also, being a dictator is easy.

[@Glenhh]

@@mrgyaniBeing a dictator is only easy when you own the company. Think about all the legacy automakers or old mobile phone companies. Those CEOs weren’t dictators. They were there for a few years and then moved on with a big mountain of cash. No way they try to force a company in their own direction. They don’t care. Just like politicians who play nice before the elections and then do what they want for 4 years. One good example of Musk doing the right thing by being a dictator is the Falcon 1 to Falcon 9 „transition“. After 2/3 failed attempts they finally got the Falcon 1 to orbit. That rocket could now fly customer cargo and earn SpaceX money. But what did Elon do? He canceled the Falcon 1 after it’s second flight so they could work on the Falcon 9. New engines, 9 instead of 1, way bigger body, landing capabilities and many other changes. Everything was new, so he was gambling the entire company. Now they are the only company with a booster that reached orbit and came back. 150 times or something. Those types of risks can only be taken by the owner, a CEO wouldn’t be able to convince the investors nor would he care because he makes money regardless. It will be seen as acting like a dictator but it’s sometimes a necessity to move as fast as possible.

[@1flash3571]

Apparently, you don't know CONTEXT......

[@teo2975]

Holz is all over the map and at his worst with his whining about Musk. I am as centrist as can be and Twitter had turned into a clown show of bizarre wokeness with documented examples of partisanship and censorship that were just beyond the pale.

[@miyamotomasao3636]

Why does the OP absolutely want everyone to know how mediocre his IQ is ?

[@joramkemsen992]

Impecable timing

[@ManicMindTrick]

Because?

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@Doran_Krotan wtf is that?

[@epajarjestys9981]

peccable spelling

[@davidabanto8121]

​@@Doran_KrotanMassive? Lol. Bunch of people overreacting

[@prizmajeno]

@@davidabanto8121 apperently comments r counted in the limit, which makes the numbers laughable

[@yohannesgetnet2177]

Perfect timing for the clip.

[@Soraeon]

Top down, dictatorial leadership is not the best way to lead people.

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

Lol. This has to be said in 2023? Lol.

[@boreunoffp3639]

​@@dialecticalmonist3405Ya, it's the current year!

[@JayTac1]

It was interesting seeing him go from talking about freedom to saying he prefers a dictator.

[@Scroapy]

It actually is the best system. The problem is again with people. The dictator is usually consumed by the power and instead of a leader, he becomes tyrant. Democracy is still the best system, because it has fail saves. However I am not so sure if every citizens vote should account as 1 vote. I would like to see a democratic system, where your vote has weight based on the amount of money you pay into the system. All over west we can see that the current system is skewing us to extreme left, that would not happen if there was an actual balance and fair distribution of voters. There will always be more poor people than rich people, so the policies are made mostly for the poor people. I am strong believer, that people who their entire life just take from the system should not have the right to vote.

[@miyamotomasao3636]

Your country is going completely mad and your are still clinging to your rotten democracy ! 😂😂😂

[@AdhishMajumdar]

I love the attitude towards testing. I'm appalled by the number of "enterprise grade" software products that I've seen that are just super slow to evolve because of the lack of test coverage (among other things). Unfortunately, inside these organizations, the managers always prioritize short term gains over actually reducing technical debt, so nothing ever changes.

[@johnkost2514]

Respect for George. Valid assertions (pun).

[@pamtnman1515]

Elon Musk saved America by revealing the illegal government censorship program. What he does with his own company is his business

[@TheRhinodon]

This is why TechBros cannot be in charge of a COUNTRY. George does not see through HOW BAD a Dictatirship can get in medium term and Long term, even if his assertion that it's better than current oligarchy is right. And it's a BIG IF

[@macesmashface]

That's because it's a lot harder to "just leave" a country and nationality. It does work for companies.

[@Dufffaaa93]

Big difference is that country is a group of people, wile company is a team of people.

[@buzinaocara]

precisely. Even the smartest and most competent benevolent dictators will inevitably create a system that will stagnate and calsify into another corrupt and inefficient oligarchy within a decade or so.

[@geneherald8169]

governments are different because they have the army and you can't vote them out with purchases as you do with companies. We vote on companies every day through our free purchases, so even though he says it's a dictatorship, that's really applied only internally.

[@info781]

Never compare a country to a private or public company, the comparison is invalid.

[@MushroomMagicGrowing]

This is one of those clips that I hear and now I must listen to the full podcast.

[@Martinko_Pcik]

11:59 totally agree refactoring before ading new features should be considered first. And it doesn't have to be an obstacle for old patchy code to serve customers in the meantime. A lot of sank value over time goes to the code maintenance. If is a spaghetti code, it gets expensive over time. Getting maintenance cheap makes a lot of sense.

[@elftax]

I guessing that Hotz is not the first person to think of refactoring, Twitter probably thought about doing this on many occasions but realised that it would cost too much in downtime or short term instability… it’s a live system that relies on ads to make money, you cannot have outages.

[@IARRCSim]

@@elftax yeah. George Hotz talks like he doesn't understand that for some reason. Sometimes I think he's more of a talker than a doer and more of a talker than a real experienced developer. I wonder how much of his business work is honestly to his credit vs credit he's stealing from the people he talked with.

[@-Jason-L]

George gets it. How refreshing.

[@patray162]

Does this dude not realize that Russia has stayed an oligarchy since their current dictator was was elected, & that he only ever eliminated the individuals he felt personally threatened by? What did I just hear, and why didn't Lex question it lol

[@kontentin]

maybe because a company which you can leave whenever you want is not a state i guess?

[@patray162]

@@kontentin He was trying to describe forms of government with that language, not management of Twitter or other companies (which he also does not seem to fully understand given the comparisons he was trying to draw).

[@Codeman20]

Well. Idk. Maybe we are confusing dictator for owner?

[@cifey]

Any kind of business can start out simply enough, but when it starts making money each big ego has to come in and make their mark, take your money and leave the mess for more dedicated workers (and users) to work around. A code base is just a representation of the selfish gene promoting itself with minimal effort.

[@joannalewis5279]

It never ceases to amaze me how highly intelligent people can think the most stupid of things

[@dannyarcher6370]

To which aspect of the video are you referring?

[@Timeteleportation]

@@dannyarcher6370 Probably the "prefer the dictator" thing.

[@joannalewis5279]

@@dannyarcher6370 everything except the part about the server architecture

[@dannyarcher6370]

@@joannalewis5279 Microservices are dumb. That was the only thing I picked out.

[@joannalewis5279]

@@Timeteleportation how about hyperloops

[@Billygoatmanstan]

Technical people usually have terrible people skills so make terrible managers.

[@parametr]

To the contrary. So many companies insist on hiring managers other managers like. They end up hiring tech-bros who don't really know anything but are very extroverted and other managers (or CEOs) like. Wonder why projects take 2x-3x the time and don't work properly?

[@allcouto]

George has a crazy nice mind.... but I like the way he express his truth

[@AdrianTheR]

“His” truth??

[@allcouto]

@@AdrianTheR thoughts...

[@Randomguy-wd5lw]

@@allcouto I don't know the guys personally but from the podcast, George hotz, has a huge ego and he's close minded. he doesn't seem to challenge his owns opinions and beliefs. he talk like he's always the smartest in the room and if your disagree with him its because you're dumb.

[@John-mo6mu]

Yep. George has spicy takes, I dont agree with a lot of them but those kind of takes are refreshing and the reason why I watch him.

[@SimonCarpio09]

"His" truth, "my" truth, "your" truth, "their" truth. George Orwell nailed it on doublespeak.

[@FrogManSEALs]

Great Convo

[@jackroman8821]

"Managers should be better programmers than the people who they manage." This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the fact that the job of a developer and the job of a manager isn't the same (at all). While I agree that having a solid understanding of programming is greatly beneficial to managing programmers, excellent programmers might not make excellent managers (i.e. individual developers are not required to have high-level social skills, even if they are helpful, but managers absolutely need them to be effective). Both jobs require very different skillsets and yet great programmers are so often promoted and made into terrible managers. I do absolutely agree with Hotz that managers need to recognize not just skill, but quality of output. They also need a lot more than that though. Hotz comes across as a very smart, very genuine guy with some interesting (and glaringly obvious) blind spots but also someone who has reached a level of success where he simply doesn't have to address these blind spots.

[@tech3425]

Very interesting stuff

[@techsuvara]

It’s all about good architecture 👍🏻 the code itself comes second.

[@alexforget]

To build a whole system test should be in the tops of priorities, but you can put a few pizza sized team on this and put other teams working with the current system and codebase. Once the test system get good enought then you can increase your velocity and keep on shortening the release cycle.

[@miyamotomasao3636]

Yeah, but it is not what Elon decided. The only reason I can see is saving money by only doing one of both. Sad. 🥸

[@Grahfx]

I'm also obsessed with refactoring... And I always come to the conclusion that it's a huge mistake.

[@alexm566]

REALLY depends on the code base.

[@feroze170]

As a software engineer, it would be so refreshing to work at a place with the same values towards code as george has

[@mattstopa9436]

Yes, because he's detached from the reality that you have to actually produce things. He looks at it from a purely theoretical standpoint as if you can stop all development for 6 months and just write tests. That's not going to happen.

[@tkokflux6322]

@@mattstopa9436 okay matt

[@filo013]

This guy hacked PlayStation and got them a little upset.

[@IARRCSim]

It would likely be fun for a few months like his internship at Twitter but I wouldn't plan to stay at a company like that long. The company would quite surely run into financial problems when the top people care more about refactoring than money. Planning to be there for the long haul would be stupid.

[@MrKyriakos32]

@@mattstopa9436 imagine thinking that you know better than a CEO worth millions, I think you are detached from reality buddy

[@WilliamFontaineJr]

Wow thanks for that!

[@tylerlynch2849]

Genuinely enjoyed George Hotz's insights - this is a voice the tech crowd would do well to heed

[@dosadnizub]

Not really, he's a bit of a mixed bag and needs to be parsed out with experience Senior tech guys like him rarely have, or even should have the luxury to live in an ivory tower / knowledge silos, If you want to do company level engineering projects you need to understand the company and its bottom line, otherwise the tech and the business will never align As the top tech guy, you have more chance to develop an instinct for the business than the top business guys have a chance to develop an instinct for the tech, but many people, like possibly this guy, just don't have it in them Refactoring is good and tests are step 1, if you want to increase velocity and long term reduce costs you need to pay for your tech debt, But there is definite diminishing returns in elegantizing your code base, knowing when to stop is paramount Otherwise, I agree, you should be able to run almost anything from your laptop and anyone who tells you "you don't understand, this is modern architecture" while being ok with no tests and code being runnable only in production needs to go find a new job

[@thecollector6746]

​@@dosadnizubhe is a dude who jailbreaks iPhones. He knows fsck all about Software Engineering and is the m0ron who the other m0r0n(Musk) got the idea for "rewriting the stack" from, and likely got fired after Elon was dragged for such a stupid idea

[@zaphodbeeblebrox2270]

His literal point is I can fix it but I don’t want to. How can someone take these guys seriously.

[@thecollector6746]

@@zaphodbeeblebrox2270 ...and of course he can't fix sh1t. He is some rando who got famous for jailbraking iPhones. He hasn't designed, implemented and then shipped any software worth mentioning that non trivial number of people use daily. Also...he is the clown who Elon Musk got the dumb as fsck idea of "we need to re-write the entire stack that was working as advertised before my stupid @$$ decided to fire all my engineers and started doing dumb sh1t like pulling servers whom's function I am not familiar with". I think the real story behind his departure from Twitter is that they found out finally that a jailbreaker isn't contributing anything worth mentioning to the business of what is essentially a massive CRUD web application.

[@samiktiri]

I came away with the complete opposite impression . This is a buffoon

[@kelleycaptain73]

Man I really like this guy!

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

You would "prefer a dictator" too? Lol. The world is spinning the toilet bowl. Wow.

[@benjukes1988]

Wow what timing for this video...

[@taylorc2542]

What happened?

[@Katie2986]

@@taylorc2542It’s a disaster over there today, he has some new policy about how many Tweets you can see unless you’re a blue check. The funny thing is it’s a nightmare, but not even working the way he says it is.

[@MullicanDesigns]

George is right about simplicity

[@thorsteinssonh]

What do comma or tiny do? Are they foss foundations?

[@miyamotomasao3636]

Loser too lazy to use Google ! 😂😂😂

[@djankovski]

I was liking most of it till he said electricity costs 20c/kWh in San Diego now and it was the same in 1980. Why aren't you factoring in inflation? It's much cheaper now if the price is same as 1980.

[@strawhatsgear5th]

What great timing

[@freshmindnow]

All of this conversation is assuming that the requirements are *exactly* the same all the time. The reality of software engineering is that requirements change *all* the time, especially with people like Elon who requests a new thing or several things every day and that process of writing tests is a never ending process of re-writing tests, so you never end up writing any actual deployable code.

[@irvinramos1669]

I can’t see this video because my rate limit was reached

[@tomatbebo]

The suggestions that Elon has better ideas because he is "the richest man in the world", is very naive

[@jrr2479]

It's not naive, it's very logical. Elon has been very successful. So you have to respect the way of thinking and doing that got him there. Assume that there is a reason, and not just luck.

[@eduardo_dito]

ask yourself how he got to be the richest man in the world, how many innovative technological companies has he created, these companies are obviously doing good for him to be the richest man, the phrasing of that sentence sounds naive to a mind not used to connect the dots and use logic, obviously not every billionaire will have better ideas, but a billionaire who made his money all because of great ideas around technology and innovation...

[@tomatbebo]

I don't think a discussion on success is relevant to my comment. Hotz's statement, which I disagree with, suggests Elon has good ideas because he is rich. I am arguing you don't need to be rich to have good ideas that are better than Hotz for example

[@lollipopwaraxe6032]

I’ll never understand Elon fanboys

[@1donjuego]

@@jrr2479 The assumption is flawed. Survivor bias.

[@lorddraagon]

Even if it's full on microservices it's unbelievable that Twitter cannot be run in a local computer. It's just a bloody micro blogging platform. I run 10x more complicated apps in my PC xD

[@IARRCSim]

George wasn't at Twitter more than a month so everything he says about it should to be taken with a grain of salt.

[@kianp]

building any successful technology business requires more than just great software engineers. it definitely helps to have the talent but some engineers who lean more towards the narcissistic side can think it’s all about them.

[@guitarstuff8611]

like george ... either autistic or narcissistic

[@voice_from_pizza]

Tiny corp is a funny name. I used to work at the happycorp global.

[@ajjbs7580]

Heavy stuff

[@Zero-lh1rb]

In average I spend 50/50 on code and unit test, occasionally 25/75, and always end up faster than those spent more time on coding.

[@don17525]

Imagine calling George a junior software engineer..

[@dazzbourgh]

Do you know what makes a senior/principal engineer at a large company? Everybody can write code, writing code is easy, that’s why there’s so much of it. Being a senior is not just that, but also having a vision for future, being able to create scalable architecture for a product, work with business to create implementation plan, run a team of developers and assist them, and all of that while balancing your goals as engineer with company’s business goal. Being a senior engineer is not the same as being a good coder.

[@xandr13]

@@dazzbourgh Haha, keep telling yourself that, son. In reality, more senior the dev, more of a fuss they are, and that's about the main difference. Architecture, strategic vision and balancing of the business goals are done by the PO and the architect.

[@don17525]

@@dazzbourgh I work for a FAANG company in a senior position, so yes, I know.

[@ceeazy1833]

@@don17525 And? Are you a fussy dev? :D

[@don17525]

@@ceeazy1833 lol no, I must be a Jr after all, especially if George is :D

[@honor9lite1337]

Genius 😮

[@MouldyCheesePie]

🤮🤨😭

[@m-ok-6379]

George Hotz rocks.

[@felipegallardo596]

yes,he is

[@newsmansuper2925]

oh a guy on adderall

[@anitachu29]

Love this guy. His perspective seems quirky and extreme, but actually, his logic is backed with quite well structured middle way thinking process, I suppose. And I understand his uses of many terms are rather “means adopted” towards each given circumstance, but not normalcy existence.

[@SergioClaudio]

"I would prefer a dictator" Well you can, just pick one and move there.

[@chrismueller4439]

George Hotz lost it there. What a fool.

[@Shoikan06]

@@chrismueller4439 He's not wrong about the oligarchy part though, we've got some major problems.

[@JamesWitte]

Naw, his point just went over your head. A good dictator is better than a corrupt oligarchy parading as a democracy who creates chaos and lack of law and order.

[@goochipoochie]

All countries are dictatorships. So nobody needs to move anywhere

[@nutinmyass]

@@chrismueller4439 More like he's being realistic about the choices we have as citizens... a pure/honest democracy is a pipe dream in this current world. So given that, he'd rather have the somewhat likable dictator than the corrupt oligarchy. That framing is more wise than you think..

[@ismaelgrahms]

Interesting

[@2ndx]

As a software engineer in my current role. I delete more code and infrastructure. Then anything else.

[@travispulley5288]

hyperloops seem like an obvious failure that Elon tries to keep quiet, weird to hear George suggest it in the context of other plausible ideas at the end there

[@gtdcoder]

Yeah that pretty much kills any engineering credibility he seemed to have before saying that.

[@joannalewis5279]

The guy is a nut job and I don't say pejorative things lightly

[@TheNewMediaoftheDawn]

Yeah I was thinking this guy is really drinking the Musk coolaid. Elon’s certainly accomplished some interesting stuff with tons of false promises, and his high net worth is primarily driven by stock investors, not productivity, although Tesla is now finally selling lots of cars, so that variable has improved a bit…

[@BrentWalker999]

Robotaxis and full self driving are other failures

[@patray162]

+ Cybertruck 🤣 never forget

[@MW97058]

I’ve been working in IT for over two decades, which by itself means little, but I’ve always though George (Tom Cr00se) is what I stride to be like in terms of technical abilities. One of the best hackers of my generation. Brilliant guy!

[@PrestigeWorldwideNAM]

Humble dude...It's striking 😅

[@USONOFAV]

He's right your apps should be able to run locally

[@thomasgrimm1664]

Let's go bowling!

[@fateriddle14]

When asked how he would rewrite and simplify the code base, the number one thing came to his mind was: "we need to write more tests!" That's a red flag at least from my experience.

[@willa5706]

red flags all over the place, real devs can see through the bs

[@toke182]

I am still trying to understand how he is so next level pro (hacked iphone, ps4, autonomous driving...) and when I heard him speaking about twitter in twitter spaces he sounded like the most junior dev in the room

[@willa5706]

Just totally different skillsets, but he’s trying to act like he’s an expert in coding and application infrastructure, instead of just saying that’s not his wheelhouse.. just saying “refactor first” as a philosophy makes no sense and his answer to what he would refactor says all we need to know, that’s why these interviews are great.

[@Mopark25]

What's wrong with more tests? Genuinely asking.

[@teamspeak9374]

​@@Mopark25 there's nothing wrong with more tests but it's a non-answer that shows he has no clue how to work inside a large organisation with legacy software. Every dev always wants more tests the problem is you can't have all of your dev team just writing tests for a decade of untested software because then the product stops churning out features. Engineers get frustrated with day-to-day, sales team has nothing to sell anymore, half your product team ins't doing anything because features stopped, and most importantly tests don't generate any revenue (in the short-term atleast). The difficulty of being a tech lead in a large organisation is that you need to keep your software running "fine" while still being able to silently do tests and refactors so that the engineers work doesn't become a nightmare and you can keep out churning features "forever". George solution for twitter after internship there for a few weeks was just "rewrite it and build tests". That wouldn't get you a job anywhere even as a junior dev. Everyone already knows that, every dev ever in any company wants to rewrite his codebase and build tests, but in a Senior position you need to take into account all the moving pieces in a company not just the codebase in a void by itself, which he epically fails to do

[@icaromag]

George thinks like a programmer, not an engineer. And it is not even like a experienced programmer that knows how to find himself inside a big tech company. He sounds like a midsize startup employee.

[@parametr]

Nailed it. Now on to explain people the difference between a programmer and an engineer... good luck xD

[@meowco69]

Homeboy dressed like he's about to panhandle opening the door for customers outside of 7 Eleven lol

[@miyamotomasao3636]

Tell me you are a narcissist without telling me you are a narcissist ! 😂😂😂

[@neobaud513]

Is this Gavin Belson's younger brother?

[@bryan-9742]

managers better programmers than the programmers???? That company must be amazing!!! i've NEVER seen that manager two years out. I've seen managers who've never coded.

[@NoLimitScopez]

Ridiculous statement. You want your best programmers...programming. How would a manager that does not code day-to-day maintain a better skill set than their reports

[@mts7274]

Imagine working for a company for so many years with the mindset that turning a profit is completely unnecessary. That was the culture at Twitter for nearly 16 years.

[@mts7274]

@@GentleCloudForever They got rid of over 70% of unnecessary staff last year just so they COULD be profitable. That's a pretty big change in mindset.

[@maxswanson7737]

@@GentleCloudForeversource? “Profit revenue” isn't a real financial line item on the income statement. Do you mean revenue, gross profit, operating profit, or net income?

[@tijldeclerck7772]

@@mts7274 Yeah, problem is that the whole app is a complete mess now. Every week there is another app breaking bug.

[@Meyohe]

@@tijldeclerck7772 ok name me a new bug for each of the last 4 weeks. im waiting

[@Nick-ih9jw]

Lol Musk says he isn't interested in profits.. you fanbois are something else

[@rayaan5531]

ohhh shiiiiiiiiiiiit

[@yankj7647]

Since June 30th, I can no longer access Twitter freely without an account, Elon Musk is really a dictator.

[@dickheadrecs]

“refactor before features” is the philosophy of a company that doesn’t ship anything

[@phenomenalnoumenon4140]

15:12 Thunderous applause lel

[@phenomenalnoumenon4140]

Don’t know of any company going bankrupt because of refactoring… Usually they lose money on technical debt.

[@tashirka1]

while you have "effective managers" in charge you can't refactor.

[@gabedillin2472]

He wants Elon to be the dictator of the US? What??

[@joannalewis5279]

😂😂😂

[@JoeMisseri]

#MentalIllness

[@anonymoushuman8443]

It’s okay to hate billionaires.

[@AndrewDoyle]

It's also okay to hate yourself. It's not going to make your life easier, though. When you can be happy for other people and not resentful, more opportunities and better things will happen for you 💪

[@neociber24]

I don't get that logic, trying to normalize hate in any level is just dumb. We must hold people accountable for bad decisions not for their status

[@miyamotomasao3636]

It is OK to be white. Of course this sentence makes people jealous of the huge list of white males' achievements go mad inside ! 😂😂😂

[@BakerWase]

Its okay to be impotent

[@AllThatsGone]

If a walking blind spot wore hoodies.

[@ioannoualexander5033]

He was evading the questions again and again. He didnt want to participate

[@MouldyCheesePie]

Scared his lack of knowledge will get exposed

[@sdraiderfan83]

Imagine wanting self driving cars to exist and advance us, but with no "real issues" tagged to them. The liability....🤔 of trial and error!! NOW imagine no human 🧠 brains, just AI making that decision on the creation of advanced AI vehicles! That's how you manipulate the systems for the future to work for us in building the future and advancement to the next level....

[@Alex_ADEdge]

Odd vibes. George seems arrogant for a lot of this. Some valid points here and there sure, but then straight off the deep end into edgelord territory at the end there.

[@janklaas6885]

📍13:22 2📍5:46 3📍14:13

[@udoyxyz]

I like this guy.

[@claursen1]

i like George, but i don't think he's thought the dictator though... he has no idea what's waiting.

[@esotomay21]

Has Lex ever worked a day of his life?

[@mikecantreed]

He knows like 15 words from the coding glossary and pretends he knows what he’s talking about. “Code base code base code base”

[@parametr]

@@mikecantreed idk... sounds like he just throws enough to keep the guest speaking. Never ehard him say anything more than very basic stuff, but never felt it was necessary either...

[@mikecantreed]

@@parametr He’s supposed to be some sort of AI research specialist at MIT. Have you ever heard him say anything beyond what you’d hear from the guy sitting next to you at the bar?

[@miyamotomasao3636]

He is employed as a researcher by the MIT.

[@mikecantreed]

@@miyamotomasao3636 And he seems to know no more than the average person whom doesn’t work in the industry. That’s my point.

[@OverwatchUA]

Is it just me or is the clip sped up? It's a bit hard to catch what the guest is saying and it sounds unnatural

[@goodnatureart]

this guy should build a twitter that is owned by people-- a public library vision and values

[@NathanHaney-gj3gl]

Elon Musk wants to make the Borg on Marz

[@mcspud]

I'm obviously against most here, but I think he had remarkably little insight. Its a fools errand to think that the programming language is incidental yet to talk about making things smaller and clearer. The absolute terseness of idea you can express in Haskell, Ocaml or a LISP vs something like Go, Java or similar is not even in the same universe.

[@brandonkruse6412]

Imagine still using Twitter, as if there’s anything worth reading on the platform.

[@hui975]

Twitter is still very much popular. Are you trying to manifest twitters downfall by pretending no one uses it anymore?

[@clownfiestaisnofun]

No you won't refactor twitter in a year and there is no guarantee it will be better after refactoring

[@jackcorbin6757]

This guest is crazy.

[@smartjackasswisdom1467]

He worked in Twitter while on the Elon transition he definitely knows more than us about Elon.

[@flyandshy00]

Yeah, I couldn;t understand if he's playing a character or he's on the spectrum and this whole interview is a satire.

[@alr2157]

why?

[@smartjackasswisdom1467]

@@alr2157 Because he doesn't fit their own bias

[@patray162]

​@@smartjackasswisdom1467 I'm sure it was more about his odes to actual dictators and his word salad attempts to translate his limited work experience into a grandiose opinion on the governance of nations. That guy does not have a grasp on politics or history and he said some really stupid shit haha. Not everything is about Elon 😲

[@joewright9879]

“…I think we’ve gotten to a point with the oligarchy that yeah, I would prefer a dictator.” Yeah, well the strong man’s coming, and not just for the West, but for the world.

[@chairlovawitabat]

“Replace the current oligarchy with a monarchy? Yea”. 🚨🚨🚨

[@JamesWitte]

He's not wrong. current oligarchy is really dismissing the plight of the people these days.

[@chairlovawitabat]

@@JamesWitte sounds like something a red coat would say. Distrust of a monarchy is way more American than curiosity for it. As a person who loves freedom and liberty, I say NO to monarchy 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@JamesWitte]

@@chairlovawitabat oh shut up ya wakko

[@patray162]

@@JamesWitte Not wrong? How did electing a dictator work out for changing Russia's corrupt oligarchy? Did the oligarchs lose power, or did the dictator quickly eliminate the ones who threatened him & lock the rest into place with himself at the center then continue to siphon the nation's wealth together?

[@prizmajeno]

@@JamesWitte opposed to monarchs who really live for the ppl? :D:D:D wtf man?

[@Jimmy2time]

He’s the owner , if you don’t like it go work for another company you don’t own

[@Jimmy2time]

Or start your own

[@e3vL1]

The interviewer looks like he needs some sleep 😂

[@imanhdjaev]

Typical developer thing I can see in George pushing decisions to someone else saying - "above my pay grade" yeah. Think about the scale of personality.

[@miyamotomasao3636]

He is being modest in the context that Elon is the most successful entrepreneur on the planet. How low is your IQ ? 😂😂😂

[@user-dd3lw2pq9v]

lost me at the end

[@Sportsguy0258]

Shout out Lex Friedman was first in line to support Elon now look he’s batsh*t crazy

[@Meyohe]

how is he batshit crazy? because he allows all sides to voice their opinions and not just the left?

[@miyamotomasao3636]

​@@MouldyCheesePie Les actually is listed as a researcher on the MIT website ! Who looks stupid now ? 🥸

[@miyamotomasao3636]

To the OP : what's your IQ, loser ? 🥸 What did you accomplish ? 😂😂😂

[@arcanisomnipotent5794]

Is it truly conceivable to consider the idea of preferring a dictator? The thought-provoking claim here is that George Hotz has made a compelling case for Elon Musk to potentially become the inaugural monarch or dictator of the United States of America. People saying I enjoyed George, I mean that I can see the appeal, but this is quite serious.

[@iqbalrach]

KZbin algorithm are scary

[@chrismueller4439]

some really terrible statements of Hotz. George, stick to programming and architecture.

[@patray162]

utterly moronic, can't imagine how this guy's head got inflated to the point that he felt confident making those assertions with apparently little/no grasp of either politics or world history

[@hocky-ham324-zg8zc]

Care to elaborate?

[@brasso4597]

What does your (non) comment even mean?

[@chrismueller4439]

@@brasso4597 It means that anybody who is for a dictatorship of any kind, can fuck off.

[@dafuzzymonster]

He makes me uncomfortable

[@chudchadanstud]

both elon and him are loco.

[@moccomocco]

I’m thoroughly convinced George Hotz has no idea how to actually run a company or software engineering team.

[@commentpost907]

All the idiots are swayed by his voracity and look up to him. Kinda sad. Low IQ stuff

[@parametr]

tbh most of it sounded like what a junior would say after a couple of beers does he actually run a company or a department?

[@MouldyCheesePie]

@@parametr No, the video has made it clear that he's one of those who prioritizes getting a big social media following, rather than actually learning software development, running a team, or testing. Incredibly embarrassing.

[@steventaylor9806]

He is a great engineer but has no idea how to build a company. Right now every non Tesla should come with comma three but unfortunately it will never be an empire.

[@miyamotomasao3636]

And when Consumer Reports included Comma 2 in their test of self driving solutions, they concluded it was ahead. It looks like George knows what he is doing. And he is doing it on a much smaller budget than the competition ! Impressive, to say the least.

[@lovetownsend]

What happen to Bitcoin and NFTs?

[@freshmindnow]

This is a classic argument of an engineer who does not care about the business aspects of the software. He's interested in building a (static) thing and does not understand this is a living, ever-changing organism for which many requirements we simply do not know what they are or even will be. This is also the reason why he is not interested in management, as people logic is super fuzzy and software logic is super clear (and even there, there are major disagreements in what the best and right approach to engineer things).

[@patray162]

The kind of pain in the a$$, self-absorbed, results-shy engineer who we all hope isn't given the reins in any kind of implementation. He certainly talks like he's never been a decision-maker himself. I assume any messes he leave for stakeholders are deemed "beyond his pay grade" lol

[@KennyG-qh8jc]

This guy is the ultimate nerd🤣