George Knapp Λ Colm Kelleher: Aliens, Skinwalkers, Hitchhiker Effect

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:04 An overview of the "Hitchhiker Effect"
00:13:10 Most remarkable evidence
00:20:05 [Dan Zetterstrom] Information in Skinwalkers At The Pentagon that needs to be discussed more
00:34:38 [Arthur Switalski] The factors that make the Hitchhiker Effect more likely / less likely
00:39:02 Overview of acronyms (AAWSAP, AATIP, etc.)
00:40:32 [kf] Hitchhiker Effect with the blind
00:45:28 [MossyMoose] Neutrinos as the source of the Hitchhiker Effect?
00:56:21 Benevolent beings? (Travis Walton and Anjali)
01:00:50 [Arthur Switalski] Lue Elizondo and Remote Viewing
01:04:21 [Da Gummit] Do different parts of the world experience different phenomena based on culture?
01:09:38 The Oz Effect (on how it doesn't occur to you to take a picture of UFOs when seeing them)
01:12:16 Where is the evidence recorded at Skinwalker?
01:15:12 [Jackson Vega] Steven Greer and CE5
01:20:27 [Richard Brewster] Extraterrestrial or terrene?
01:33:11 What is the purpose of the Black Helicopters?
01:38:16 On cattle mutilation (some of them may be gov't-based)
01:52:48 [chris123457839] Consciousness and UFOs
02:00:09 [Steven Greenstreet] Best piece of evidence of paranormal
02:05:39 Curt answers audience questions

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Sign Up For TOEmail at www.curtjaimungal.org There was a question that I wanted to ask but didn't have time to, so I sent to it Colm and here's what he said: [username: bcccl] With regard to the hitchhiker effect, I'm curious as to whether any strategies have worked to dispel it (eg. signaling displeasure or invoking religious protection, etc.)? [Colm] To answer the excellent question from your audience, during the AAWSAP program we did not have a chance to attempt countermeasures against the hitch hiker effect. As we discussed on the show, the AAWSAP was very abruptly terminated at the end of 2010. However, in 3 separate cases that I personally followed over several years after the end of AAWSAP, the "hitch hiker effects" continued for over 8 years in at least two of the families and continue until this day. The question from your listener is a very good one and one that definitely should be addressed and explored in a future UAP effort. I also wanted to compliment you on the quality of the questions from your audience. In my opinion your podcast fulfills an important role in bringing together additional inquiring minds on this complex topic of UAPs. Speaking frankly, we need all the help we can get. Finally, I was just alerted to a recent article on AAWSAP that might be of interest. www.liberationtimes.com/home/why-the-defense-implications-within-skinwalkers-at-the-pentagon-are-profound Best Regards Colm

[@rocketn8]

Your interviews are absolutely awesome. Thank you so much. When is the Pais interview gonna go out?

[@AdMBandLeader]

The way you go about handling your episodes, it's highly praiseworthy and top notch, Curt. Your meticulous and serious approach, the sincerity and the will to learn and let your listeners learn as well, are sterling qualities very few YTubers possess. Thank you with utmost regards and love, from India, 🙏.

[@dagummit7356]

Thank you for this. We were prompted to read between the lines, the implications were so profound with the hitchhiker effect that it took me a couple of days to realize the clue is in the title. From the link you posted: "Perhaps we’ll discover what few wish to acknowledge, not only are UAP real - but they can in some cases cause huge health consequences that threaten service members and national defense."

[@Pillagingjust4fun...]

Thanks for all that you do Curt. The TOE platform is amazing, and while i can't wrap my head around all of its content, I'm still a big supporter. I'm sorry that the Linda interview has affected you in such a negative way. Keep your head up and follow your passions 👍

[@voxeuro]

As AAWSAP was Govt funded & abruptly ended perhaps 'he who paid the piper' had discovered what they wanted to know, the team were investigating many things some of which may of been of less interest to the Govt, just a theory.

[@bryancoombesart]

My wife and I were walking the dog, witnessed a very close UAP (UFO) phenomena, treetop hight. 7-9 pulses of light, like huge camera flashes, no sound. The lights flashed 5 more times moving east than north, moving further away and higher altitude, Vancouver area. It is my belief based on intuition, these visitors are everywhere and are making themselves known on purpose, more and more. I also believe the phenomena are inter dimensional, not bound by spacetime. I'm a former commercial pilot for what its worth

[@captainmolotov9865]

@bryancoombesart, I experienced the same phenomena in summer 2023 at night around 9-10 pm, with a family member. I was on the second floor of a house and the flashes cought my attention so I looked at them from a window. And my family member was outside a few meters from the house. We were in a rural part of Quebec. The flashes occured exactly how you described them. The flashes were around 100 meters away from us. We both saw them from 2 angles. We both confirmed what we saw. I don't even know what kind of flashlight could create these flashes, if they were created by people. Anyway, why would people do that in that very random area in front of our house. On top of that, it is very difficult to access this area. There was no noise, absolutely no physical presence. Very wierd.

[@bryancoombesart]

@@captainmolotov9865 wow, interesting... you had a similar experience. I''d love to see it again.

[@alexpaul6054]

There are no UFOs. It is only a demonic deception or whatever you smoked or sniffed earlier

[@CraigStephens777]

I believe you. In 1983 Snowy Christmas Eve my family had a 3 part close encounter with the Tall Nordic Angelic Whites. Im glad it happened. They are Benevolent and Powerful and still watching me.

[@bryancoombesart]

wow that's amazing... I believe you also. Curious do you intuit that you had setup your encounter with this being prior to your present incarnation? Sorry that might be a bit much? @@CraigStephens777

[@dubsnapper4787]

I'm 62 & have been following the "ufo" phenomenon since my teens, I'm also well aware of Colm & George's work in this field, I found this perticular discussion to be one of the best I've ever heard,... thank you.

[@laurasfar18]

I'm 42 and have also followed the phenomenon since childhood. It's like we're close to something this time. TOE is among the best shows right now. In Denmark we have a podcast called Flying Saucer (translated) and they look into it in a logical way and thinks like scientists with no opinion. Just facts, credible witnesses and stuff like that and it really looks like that we're not alone, when you piece all the solid cases together and sort out the 95% rubbish. 2022 will be a very exciting year in ufology and hopefully we will finally get some answers and let everyone know that there is something out there.

[@richardhorn7688]

@@laurasfar18 I like your enthusiasm on the subject. But....as long as we are doing whatever the establishment tells us to do and we pay them monthly so they can track and predict everything we do and everything we buy and who we buy from and when they aren't gonna tell us a damn thing or let anyone else tell us a damn thing. If our guys know something then every major world power also knows something and with translation being as bad a$$ as it is we would have something. Instead people like Luis elizondo spends hours and hours saying he's "dropping bread crumbs" when he was paid for years by the tax payers to study this. I think at this point it is more likely that earth is a hell of a lot bigger and may or not even be the shape we are taught and we live in a test site or plantation of sorts idk but I try and stay positive these days.

[@uweinhamburg]

Hi Dub, in your 62 years have you ever seen anything real which would stand as proof in any court in the country you live in for the existence of UFOs? There are thousands of so-called UFO visits reported each year. Humans have visited the Earth moon 6 times, and there have been perhaps 50 planned landings of men made units on the moon. No matter what the exact numbers are, there must be tens of tons of material on the surface of the moon which cannot be explained by anything belonging to the normal moon situation. If any little green men crew would bring home a Hasselblad from the moon to their home planet, people like me out there would immediately accept it as proof that humans have made it to the moon. Where are the thousands of tons of material we could expect from extra terrestrial activities? Where is genetic material which clearly doesn't belong to the Earth line of evolution? Wolves standing on two legs or Poltergeists or weird uncomfortable feelings don't do it for me. I would like to see something i can touch.

[@dubsnapper4787]

No

[@uweinhamburg]

@@heatherup Has anything useful come out of all of this? Awful health and a 'hacked mind' doesn't sound very positive to me. Do you know by chance if the Aliens have solves the Collatz conjecture or the Riemann hypothesis yet?

[@faYte0607]

Love to be surrounded by genuine human beings who show humility. Props to George for deferring questions he don't have answers to to Colm. This interview is night and day from the one with Dr. Steven Greer. Keep up the awesome work Curt!

[@billysweeney9994]

You're a special person, Curt. Intelligent, polite, insatiably curious, honest, open, logical and critically thinking. You're a truly special person.

[@ddiver7908]

Yes! Finally the one we've all been waiting for...Skinwalker with Kelleher AND Knapp? Home run, Kurt! Thank you!

[@mechannel7046]

Curt, please don't stop doing UFO-related shows, even though the subject is a rabbit hole, full of mirages and misinformation that can be disheartening at times. You are doing God's work by bringing UFO researchers and scientists and academics under the same roof. This is sorely needed. It's a shame there is so much stigma surrounding the phenomenon, especially the high strangeness side of it. Can you please also invite scientists such as Dean Radin, Garrett Moddel, Eric Davis onto the show? They will have some fascinating things to say about ESP, consciousness and maybe UFOs as well. After all, UFOs, ESP, consciousness and all the "paranormal" phenomema may hold the key to solving the ultimate mysteries of the universe.

[@TheMoeShun]

while im never going to tell Curt what to do with his channel, I will voice my opinion to say I am less preferential toward UFO related videos.

[@michaelalan6459]

@@TheMoeShun then go fly a kite

[@XoXo475]

@@TheMoeShun you’re in the minority pal

[@odynefyet7922]

dude dont listen to UFO, and let the man work cause u are minority here. PERIOD

[@AdMBandLeader]

@@TheMoeShun While it's fine to stick to discreet personal tastes, it's even better when one doesn't poke into other people's fields of interest stating their displeasure against those. Peace be upon all.

[@user-gh9ss2ri8m]

This host possesses a good temperment for mediating multiple guests across long-format interviews. His input is infrequent enough to allow guest replies focus, while also maintaining impressive participation regarding any topic along fairly complex subject matters. I hope he keeps this great work up

[@Veldtian1]

Yeah it's much much harder then it may appear to host podcasts very well, hardly anyone can do it.

[@lindasue8719]

Well said!👍🏼👍🏼

[@freeindeed5393]

Well...I am driving my daughter back to Seattle from Dallas and we were planning to stop around Skinwalker Ranch area on the way home. I think I will drive on through after hearing this. I had a demon attack me in my bedroom one night around 5 years ago! No need to welcome in any hitchhikers!

[@chickadee317]

What happened with the attack?

[@peluchetaiwanes]

Can you elaborate on the attack you suffered? Thank you.

[@logosfocus]

some people have to be burned before they realise fire is dangerous, i know i did.. when this thing went away i got on my knees crying and gave my life to Almighty God after literally 33years with little to no faith.. id awoken with something pinned to my back shoulders and hips (it was dry humping my butt cheek no joke..) so as id learned even tho i was paralysed i called on the mighty name of Jesus and so i was struggling and straining to call His name and every time i said it thos thing snapped and snarled over my left shoulder.. i dont care what anyone says or thinks about it i know what happened ad i was awake.. you can tell they are ancient dead unclean spirits just as the Holy Bible and the apocrypha tells us.. just thought id share, mine happened 6years ago and only twice since then.. i had heard the closer you get to the truth the more these things dislike it and i believe that is what happened.. Blessed is the King of the Angels 👑

[@thetruthchannel349]

I had some friends in college that all lived in a house. 3 rooms upstairs & 1 down. The guy that lived downstairs woke up with this 6.5 foot tall dark green reptile looking 'man' lying next to him. Oddly, enough. All 4 occupants of this house awoke at the same time. One of these guys was a drummer I knew really well & he was a very devout Christian. He said he immediately knew what was happening & began praying. The guy downstairs was frozen & couldnt move. Within a few mins. The thing vanished & all 3 guys came downstairs & found that guy in shock. I don't remember if they took him to the ER or not. Seems like they had to. He was really freaked out. The odd thing about this event was everyone woke up at virtually the same time with a feeling of intense dread & terror. The guy downstairs couldn't even call out. They never heard him scream or yell for help. He couldnt speak. They all ran down & found him in his bed frozen in terror. He described this being as having scaly, leathery green kinda slimy looking skin & a Reptilian looking face & eyes & he said the feelings that emitted from this being were unspeakable they were so intense. That is what woke up the other 3. He'd never had anything happen like that before.

[@riquester1971]

@@thetruthchannel349 Can you give some specifics? What state? What town? What year? What college?

[@ADPTraining]

Very professional interview. Programs like this are killing the main so called news networks. Keep it up.

[@quantumpotential7639]

It's amazing. Remember the days of the three networks and one local UHF station? That long tail of content creators is really really really LONG. And yet, where's today's equivalent of Batman, Gilligans Island, Hogan's Heros, and Kojack? I'll tell you where. No where. That's why I like old tv shows. Made during a time when America might have been at it's pinnacle. And behod, 51 years into the future, realizing now it was the Apex and we've been on the downward spiral ever since. Is America a rollercoaster ride where there's another ride back to the top? Or, is the ride almost over and the only way to get back on is to step back into line and take the next ride which is essentially, how should I politely say this, going to take you right off a cliff and into the dark gorge where the car blows up when it hits the bottom, like one of those 70's movies filmed.along the Pacific coast highway. Things to think 🤔 about. Now let us pray 🙏

[@scorpio1154]

Yes.

[@azman6568]

@@quantumpotential7639 Colombo!

[@gregorybrissette3443]

Lol. Although I agree this is well done but it is a topic unproven as much as we’d like to think otherwise,. As far as networks- Fox is not even news. Propaganda for right wing idiots. CNN & msnbc are left-leaning but don’t flat out lie as Fox does…. Reagan set this up when he dismantled the Fairness Doctrine which help news accountable. The gop playbook to gain total power eventually as we saw the attempted coup Jan 6..

[@grasshopperplus8318]

Shut up

[@scar65diflorio68]

I am 56 yrs old and have pretty much followed Mr. Knapp going back to when he first met Bob Lazar. Mr Knapps investigative prowess shows a high level of professionalism and endurance to find true facts and a willingness to put his job on the line for what he believes to be such an incredible story. Much respect to you Mr. Knapp from Toronto, Canada.

[@aleksanderh.5407]

He is being framed

[@AspiringSpaceWizard]

@@aleksanderh.5407 im late. However, can you elaborate?

[@SparkyTuttle]

@@aleksanderh.5407 , Framed? That's just sad. You have zero facts.

[@aleksanderh.5407]

@@SparkyTuttle YOU have no facts. I have 100 percent facts but the documentary work showing it is not writable here without being removed by c*ns*rship. The ET cult was created as a psy*p . There were ancient *human* societies with a fairly high development standard.

[@aleksanderh.5407]

@@SparkyTuttle (The Movie Mir*ge men of year '13 and journalist ..nnie J*cobsen's work are what you must find and go through. There are no "ETs" visiting Earth. It is a scam made to advance political sects/leftist UN imperialism. Like the clim*te hyst*ria) taken apart by science/sk*ptics)

[@eckankar7756]

I saw the PHOENIX LIGHTS and had a major change in my personality from that moment on now for over a quarter of a century. I used to have such road rage, cutting cars off, honking, giving the finger, chasing cars...such a quick temper. A few moments after the Phoenix Lights craft flew over my head I felt like a click inside me. I stood there for 10 minutes crying watching that craft fly out of sight. From that moment on I've not had a bit of anger since. I let people cut in front of me, I've not honked my horn in anger since, I smile day and night for no reason. It's been a 100% positive change in my personality from an instant just after the mile wide craft flew overhead. What happened? Was it the craft or did I do it to myself. My 'hitchhiker effect' if that's what it was was totally beneficial. I recently did a pod cast on this, it's on my channel. Watch it and let me know what you think.

[@aybee63]

Was it really a mile wide? Must have blocked out a large part of the sky for at least a few minutes. Would have been amazing to witness. My guess is it switched your perception of reality in that moment, giving you the unique awareness that there are things far greater than us. That there are capabilities beyond our understanding. And that you no longer needed to feel anger towards human beings, as they really are not highly evolved. In essence, you instantly learned to forgive fallibility!

[@Roboticdoughbull3k]

Basically you're saying that it knocked all the asshole right out of ya, amazing.

[@maxboya]

Went to big bend few years ago now and had a similar thing happen to me. I know exactly how you feel. I’m 27 and when I saw what I saw. It was as if someone punched me in the stomach and knocked the wind out of me. I couldn’t even speak for 10 seconds. Everything I knew and understood about physics and the world we live in just took it and rattled the whole cage.

[@thekeysman6760]

​@@maxboya"I'm 27 and when I saw what I saw." isn't a sentence. Don't do that if you want to be understood! 😉👍 I'm 50 and have experienced visitation since the late 1970s.

[@thekeysman6760]

@eckankar7756 I had a look but I didn't find a "podcast" per se, and the anecdote is from a David. Is that you?

[@jester_1973]

One of the least well-known black triangle events occurred on Jan 19th, 1983, in South Wales. Dozens of black triangles ranging in size from that of a family car to one the size of a city, were seen by hundreds of witnesses between 5:30pm and 8pm... even by police detectives on duty. It's known as The Night of The Triangles, and it's far more significant than the Belgian Wave IMHO. SUFON (Swansea UFO Network) have a whole database on this event freely available online.

[@DutchJose]

Interesting, I did not know this. A large triangle shaped object flew over me and my brother, slowly and quietly in the summer of 1989, when we stood on top of Chalice Hill in Glastonbury. We panicked and ran down the hill.

[@janettomlin950]

Share your link please 😊

[@mikecannon5719]

I lived in Elk Creek Va. 1989 -1999. It was the year Hurricane Hugo broke up over the east coast. To get up in the valley surrounded by Mountain tops and foothills you had to traverse uphill through the winding road on one side coming from Wytheville Va. Ears popping as you get use to the pressure and once inside Elk Creek you level off popping your ears and your back to normal hearing again. It's pretty much one road in and one headed south towards Independence Va. So everyday we had to deal with the pressure of the elevation. Absolutely a beautiful country road where cattle outnumber people 10 to 1. The valley is not very many miles long so living there through the 4 seasons as a kid being outside a lot you look up and 360 panoramic view surrounded by green rolling hills in the summer and snow in the winter. We experienced a lot of unusual stuff going on. One night while playing cards we were interrupted with a rumble and rattling of pictures and items from the Salt and pepper vibrating it's way to the edge of the table to ceramic ornaments my mom had on the fireplace falling on the rock in front of the fireplace. Thunder in the distance was my first thought. My brother and sister followed me outside and I looked up. What we witnessed that night has occupied more of my life's time than anything else. I can't express with words the size of what we were looking at or can I put words together that will really define to a reader the way it made us feel. The mind is a tricky thing and if you ever experience anything like it you will feel the same. It's feelings,emotions and thoughts yet no reaction as you try to make sense of it. It didn't make any noise but you could feel a low deep base in your bones. It was moving fast from east to west and looked like a round city in the sky. Maybe a minute later 6 fighter jets flew over 3 in each group snapping me back into reality. My little brother pinched his nose closed his mouth and popped his ears saying,"It feels like it does when we go to school". I did the same and my little sister was crying. All of the sounds returned to normal the crickets, frogs and the wind and we stayed up all night. The days that followed my mother was complaining because she had to replace batteries in a hanging clock and the remote control to the t.v. We had other weird static electricity issues for a week or two. Turning on light switches would give you a little zap. So people really need to open their minds and use some critical thinking and step out of the box and be like a child with endless imagination full of life.

[@jay108D]

The final words by George were incredible and really strikes home the amount information that has been given and researched by him over his long career. The fact that nobody I know will ever watch this unless I force them to do so is the whole problem we all face. Still, after countless hours of interviews with highly trained and experienced professionals in their fields, still the topic is not getting out there enough. It needs to be on the front page of papers, websites, the lot and openly discussed with family and friends over dinner or we will never get this thing solved. I really do hope that you - Mr George Knapp, one day have the honour of revealing the truth to the world because sir, you deserve it.

[@giantsbane9706]

You have made the mistake in thinking those in control are human and or have the human crops better interest in mind. A large part of the path you have chosen to walk down is realizing we are not the apex predators in the realm. Happy hunting, you are not alone.

[@Handpicked1971]

@@giantsbane9706…Exactly??

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

Oh hey guys. I have a friend that I've known ever since kindergarten, and he told me about a night that he and his buddy had, that were going out to the Mojave Desert to do some Target Shooting. My friend went in his buddy's car, and left his truck at home. They got out to the desert and had been having fun target shooting at cans, and also paper Bullseye Targets. When it got dark, they decided to fix up their dinner, and enjoy the camp fire that they got started, and kick back and enjoy their beers, and conversation. My friend said that he slept in the back seat of his friends car, while his buddy slept in the front seat. At about 3:00 a.m. something landed on the roof of his friends car, and it was very heavy, because they could hear that it was going in circles on the roof of the car, and it was making indentations with each step where the big paws or feet were, and not only that, but he told me that they could hear it's claws scratching the paint on the roof of his friends car, which pissed off his buddy. The two of them stayed up the rest of the night looking out the car windows to see if they could see a tail of whatever it was, or see it, but without any luck. So they finally said that the noise stopped, and they thought that it had fallen asleep on the roof of the car. They both were so scared, that they stayed inside the car until noon, but it was getting so hot, that they decided to open the car doors and jump out, with their guns aimed at the roof, where that animal was. But there was nothing there. So they checked out the roof of the car to see how bad the damage was going to be from what they had heard. There were NO INDENTATIONS AND NO SCRATCH MARKS ANYWHERE. So they checked out the loose dirt around the car for whatever animal prints could have been left. They both checked all around the car working their way outward for quite a distance, and not a print could be found. My friend said that that whatever it was, had to have come from the sky, and left going back up to the sky. They were both so freaked out and scared, that they hightailed it back to Santa Monica as fast as possible to tell me. And when he showed up at my place to tell me, he was in such a state of hysteria and freaked out, that I have NEVER SEEN HIM LIKE THAT EVER BEFORE. He was as white as a sheet, like the blood had been drained right out of him. We went out for coffee, and man was he ever in a state like I had never seen. I was completely fascinated and spellbound by hearing what he told me. They said those paw indentation prints were huge, like a lion or tigers paws, and along with those huge claws scratching up the paint was what it sounded like. We still don't know what the hell that could have been even to this day. Does anybody out there, have any idea or clue as to what it could have possibly been?

[@ManDogBearPig]

it was probably a ghost like entity that manifested as a big cat or w.e but since they never opened the door it didn't allow its damage to actually become physical. or maybe it wouldn't have been physical anyway. either a trickster spirit like usual or potentially actually harmful like a shape shifter looking to feed off fear or flesh

[@danielmartin2771]

Curt , My son wrote wrote his dissertation on Entropy , and , that’s when everything Quantum Physics opened up to me ; It was also when I had many questions about the subject. My son directed me to your channel, and it was the episode with Joscha that provoked me to listen to this podcast ever since. Still haven’t listened to all the episodes but I’m working on it. Peace in the Middle East my brother. ❤😊

[@berwynfrank]

Curt, your final commentary was EXTREMELY heartfelt. Almost painful, as if it tore at your inner being to express it. You TRULY have a mission and want to stay true to it and your listeners/watchers. I too would request that you continue with UFO phenomena related content as part of TOE. I am extremely happy to be a part of this channel. I sincerely thank you.

[@PuppetMasterdaath144]

lol

[@seaneusantos4031]

@@PuppetMasterdaath144 I dont get whats funny here. 8weird side look and a smirk. "lol"

[@maxwang2537]

I share what is said here.

[@glenn-younger]

I was feeling what you wrote. And it tore at my heart.

[@Tsunami907]

I couldn’t agree with you more, Frank Mags.

[@gayle63mph]

Curt; I hope you get this message. These podcasts have meant so much to me. I've lived with the 'ufo' phenomenon for 60 years in a very personal way and in a very isolated way. Listening to the interviews has enriched my life and is so unexpected - I thought I would take this subject matter to my grave alone and unshared. Thank you from deep in my heart. Please pace yourself and take very good care.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Thank you so much! I'm so glad about that

[@MelanieLittlebrain]

@@TheoriesofEverything is done interviewing UFO guests since since he and his "guru" (curt believes Leo is God) Leo find those guests "amusing". All potential UAP and UFO interviewees or guests should know that because Leo finds their content amusing and Kurt agrees, they are no longer welcome on his podcast. They are expected to stay away so that Leo doesn't laugh at them anymore. The very first thing Leo does is laugh at the UFO guests and says their content is amusing, the very first thing Leo says, before the 12-hour shove down Kurt's throat that Kurt seems to enjoy. So Kurt has chosen his path and no more UAP UFO guest will be on this podcast anymore. It's the only way to get Leo to stop laughing at them, and to get Kurt to stop laughing at them.

[@dshepherd107]

@@MelanieLittlebrain which must be why he interviewed another guest on this very subject two months after this podcast. Clearly you’ve got some personal agenda

[@michaelt1775]

@@MelanieLittlebrain is Leo's transgender wife he's just jealous of Curt . These ladies always get butt hurt well deluxo does after seeing leo

[@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849]

@@MelanieLittlebrain nice try. You're either clinically insane (or on the way), or you're here on behalf of some fundamentalist religious group obsessed with UFO disclosure's potential effect on your doctrine. You enlisted (or volunteered) in this action to sow seeds of instability around Curt and his work. The problem is your pseudo-subversive, laughably "disconnected" comment, it's too self aware. If you and yours are going to attempt this kind of narrative manipulation over de rigeur New Testament passages , do yourself a favor and do your due diligence. Make it sound real, like an actor. But be careful, libel per se is real. Unlike the moral metaphors of the Bible. Good day.

[@KCnLex]

Both of these men can speak at length without covering the same subject over and over, they keep your interest because they speak with such intelligence and passion. Truly gifted public speakers covering a fascinating subject.

[@jpop-qg5gj]

It’s so heartening to see these men and women - who have braved everything to bring this to light - finally getting the respect they deserve! I’m so grateful to you all. Much love.

[@thetruthchannel349]

Ive been around this stuff my entire life. You're describing classic 'haunting' scenarios. I had an entity follow me back from Hollywood my very first trip out there. My dad saw it the first night I was back home. He said it was about 3.5 feet tall, was covered in hair and had what looked like a leather type black jacket on and kind of a wolf/monkey type face. I didn't see it but I felt something strange my first night back. I was so un-nerved I got up and turned lights on in my room and went back to bed. It just felt like static electricity in the air. I knew what that was from experience I just couldnt figure out why. Me exhausted from the trip I went to bed early and about half an hour later he's in the living room watching t.v. in the dark and screams out 'I see it!' And starts yelling 'Get outta here' lol. I was too tired to get up. The next afternoon my mom told me what happened. She said he said it took off running and ran right through the wall to the garage. It was never seen again.

[@maggiehoness]

you encountered steven spielberg sounds like,lol

[@kt9495]

I’m someone who has experienced high strangeness, during a time I wasn’t looking for it and really had no awareness of the existing rabbit holes. Years later I’ve realized I may never understand the experiences but find community in the shared phenomena. As was mentioned and I’ve also found to be true, they are so distinct and unique to the experiencer. I can see why it has been unsettling to you. Reality hasn’t been the same for me and I’m at a point where I almost don’t believe in anything, yet it’s a form of openness in knowing anything is possible. Try not to fear, and stay grounded.

[@Metalpazallteway]

I feel the same way. I was mostly affected during teenage and early childhood. My best explanation is some lands are more prone to certain phenomena, and certain humans are also more exposed to other things especially if there are government projects that happen and one is unaware. So in total, it affects our surroundings. Nothing to be shocked about just like you said, stay grounded.

[@ibiufos]

Much love and light to you and may Gods Angel's watch over you and protect you and keep you safe from the very evil that is trying to destroy us all ❤️ 🙏 I hope all your prayers are answered. Much love from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤️

[@jaysencorbett1855]

Every relationship I’ve been in, I’ve always been teased about it. Once they notice it and have an experience themselves the lights stay on at night.

[@robkidd5214]

Hmmm. Okie dokie...

[@falstaff59]

All things are possible. Anything is probable.

[@dawn7882]

I really enjoyed this presentation. I wish I had found your channel sooner. I'm 65 and I have had both paranormal and UFO experiences through my lifetime and have looked for answers over the years so this is very personal for me. I hope you continue to explore this and share what you learn

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Welcome aboard. Hopefully you enjoy other podcasts on this channel and I look forward to reading your comments

[@dawn7882]

@@TheoriesofEverything I look forward to watching many more, you seem to be a very warm and sincere man , and very passionate about learning which I find is a rare gift nowadays. So many people are so closed minded when it comes to these topics. Both young and old, I have found it difficult finding anyone to even discuss these things with,so this channel is like a breath of fresh air, so thank you sir for sharing so much of your self with us

[@TheoriesofEverything]

@@dawn7882 I'm glad!

[@dawnthomas1228]

Very interesting. How was the experience for you?

[@dawnthomas1228]

​@@dawn7882I have an open mind if you want to share. I am very interested.

[@kurt1853]

Love knaap..... The way he talks is detailed yet concise.... Honest old school journalist...

[@mjjumps]

Knapp is my favorite reporter in the game. He broke the Bob Lazar story in 1989 and has never looked back.

[@dogberry3660]

He's so lovable!

[@Turtledove2009]

@@dogberry3660 He is!

[@surfinsilver]

I am so happy people like him exist... they NEEDED to

[@WilliamPriceKing]

Kudos, Curt, for a fascinating interview. George Knapp is a icon in this field and a very credible man. It was a pleasure to meet Colm Kelleher. Keep up the good work.

[@rajeke]

Every sentence took 42 years to get out. I had to skip past

[@RealtorVincent]

This is the most informational,intellectual talk I’ve listened to. Thank you for doing this. It brings so much clarity to many of my question’s.

[@redcargirl]

Love Curt’s shows. He is an excellent host. George and Colm were excellent and knowledgeable guests. Bravo!

[@roderickcortez138]

My entire world view was shattered a year ago when I saw an entity in my room. I'm 44 now and up until a year ago I was a militant skeptic. If science couldn't prove it I didn't wanna hear about it. I would always laugh when people tried to talk about spirits, ESP, witchcraft, etc. Anyways I was sitting at my computer one night in my room and I happened to look over towards my door because I heard my roommate walking down the hall. Right then something that looked like a black jelly fish about three feet long flew into my room from the hallway. It was about five feet off of the ground and made a sharp turn upwards and went into my bathroom just barely missing the top of the door frame. It moved in such a strange way. Not like anything I had ever seen before. I'm a grown man and I don't get scared easily. But when I saw this thing I FROZE with fear. I sat in my chair not even knowing what to do. A couple minutes went by and I gathered up the courage to confront this thing. I ran into my bathroom ready to scream at it and punch it if I had to but it was gone. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about this thing and wonder what the hell it was. What it wanted. Where it came from.

[@cjcoleman3893]

Wtfxdd

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

Wow that's a real creepy sighting and experience, and it was black to boot. What the hell could that scary thing be? Jesus, that really freaks me out! I hope you don't have to see that thing again!

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

Hey, could it have been a Bat? No cuz Bats aren't any three feet in size.

[@coryevert2224]

Was there any open windows?

[@roderickcortez138]

@@coryevert2224 Nope

[@user-nw2si7hu3u]

Colm kelleher is the unspoken hero and authority on so much of the phenomenon and what’s known he’s such a humble guy he deserves a lot more credit and due

[@AmericanSpaniard]

100% agree with you that Kelliher is an unspoken hero. These podcasts never fail to provide the absolute best, mind-blowing education that we all miss in traditional schooling.

[@michaelalan6459]

@Dragon your momma is.

[@hauntedhose]

Hero? Whoa guy 😅

[@murrmurr765]

He can't pronounce "triangle" for the life of him

[@user-nw2si7hu3u]

@Dragon I do think Linda smokes her own dope but colm is a pretty straight shooter and a scientist despite some of the wild things he’s experinced I think. I don’t listen to Linda at all sadly she seems like a sweet lady but so gullible she’s ripe for misinfo and scams and Curt’s interview demonstrated that fully she wasn’t even aware that photo was a known fake that’s just sad.

[@tnreprasentog7769]

this is one of the best most intelligent, intriguing, and entertaining podcast on the tube... And I just love how you tackle these interviews as a fact based intellectual and never letting your ego or what you "know" get in the way..... Take notes people this is how it's done

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Glad you’re enjoying :)

[@chirelle.alanalooney8609]

I want to compliment you on how very well spoken and intelligent you are. It's a pleasure to hear you speak. Thank you so much.

[@boodoran50]

I just wanted to say as a follower of this subject for a long time I really love your interviews on this. I think you bring a fresh perspective that I really enjoy! Your audiences questions are always very thoughtful and intelligent. And you are a great listener and interviewer. I sense some doubt in you but you are doing great!!! I think this subject is extremely important so please keep doing what you're doing. Thanks man

[@JoeZorzin]

I agree- when you watch some of the older UFO stuff, done decades ago - it looks tacky by comparison. Not all of it but much of it.

[@luch5146]

Another awesome interview. What a great honor to have Mr. Knapp. He is a legend.

[@gretchenburton7184]

I have things missing in my home constantly. Very interesting. Thank you so much❤

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Me too. Some things I find, some few I don't. I guess it's a thieving demon.

[@gretchenburton7184]

@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 exactly!!!

[@johnedwardculp6621]

Take it easy. Thanks for staying flexible enough to bring excellent questions to the surface. Enjoying the program.

[@johnw1150]

Just finished watching the entire interview Curt and I must say bravo, well done. It's not easy to tackle this subject matter, it can be both fascinating and disturbing at the same time. You really cover a wide assortment of challenging and interesting topics in all your interviews, unlike anything else on youtube in my opinion. Thanks for all your hard work Curt, it's obvious to me that you put a lot of time and thought into your projects, thanks again!

[@angieg9361]

100% agree with everything you said. He is brilliant and a stand alone in my eyes.

[@quantumpotential7639]

Well, he's very talented in his particular field. And obviously has a unique knack pack which like a sailboat can tack on any track he decides to crack suffering no flack, no slack, no lack. Just pure rack. Thanks

[@TheDAT9]

Baleur, I thought on similar lines, maybe some kind of infection of the pineal gland something that activates it. That doesn't explain the wine bottle flying across the room, or maybe it does. Maybe we have powers that are dormant, mostly. Nobody in our civilisation has figured out how the pre Younger Dryas megalithic civilisations built those massive structures. Did they know how to use these powers ???

[@erictallant4965]

Curt, I am sooo grateful that you take on this subject with interest, open-mindedness, and grounded objectivity that is required in weighing the evidence. Unlike the more traditional, and even theoretical topics you take on, this one is peppered with liars, attention seekers, and agent provocateurs. Separating fact from fiction is a yeoman’s task, but I, and many others here, appreciate you attempting to do so.

[@charlottewilliams7866]

Please don't be discouraged. You rock. And you are respectful. Take a break when you need to, but I would miss you and your guests. I haven't listened to the Linda Moulton Howe interview. I do find it a little hard to believe you were impolite or have anything to apologize for...but I'll listen to the interview and report back :). Keep on doing brilliant things! Thank you for having guests that speak a "language" I understand. Sorry to say some of your guests are way beyond my ken.

[@tappenmom]

This interview was fascinating and chilling. The quality of people who have experienced this crazy unseen sentience is impressive. I was encouraged to hear these happenings are continued to be analyzed.

[@humanbeing3337]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 this is a brilliant interview. Curt, your listener questions are so well placed. Thank you for condensing them and focusing on “the spirit” of the questions. Your extensive prep before your interviews is what keeps these discussions at such a high level. Can’t express enough how much your diligence and unique presentation style are appreciated. These two guests are two of the most articulate, intelligent people speaking on this subject. Colm, thank you for presenting the story side of this phenomenon. Storytelling is central, crucial to the human experience and honors the element of emotion in conversation. George, thank you for keeping the discussion on point only ever accomplished by listening to what is being said. Listening is the art that distinguishes a gifted journalist from a “reporter”. Of course, your recall is also remarkable. Reminder ~ U.S. tax payers funded the $22 million AAWSAP program and deserve to know what was discovered. Would like to think all the highly educated folks involved in AAWSAP could have discerned how much information could be released to the public, again, the hard working people who paid for it, had they not been subjected to the self serving agenda of the U.S. military industrial complex (nod to Eisenhower). with much gratitude.

[@user-kt2kz5qg4z]

Jacques Vallée is the most knowledgeable about this subject and he says they act just like demons which are how fays and fairies are described. Why no discussion of demons and The Blood of Christ to stop the activities?! It's like the one subject the will not include in their discussions. Interesting...

[@Dr.JRemington]

One of the envious aspects of the Dr. Who character is that he (or she) is a “doctor” (expert) of everything. I think a multidisciplinary approach, as opposed to specialized, holds the keys to many of the great mysteries we’re trying to grasp. I do my best to read a large variety of science literature, and often I find that leaps in understandings are initiated on an intuitive level and an analogous level. Too often patterns get missed due to hyper-focusing on only one (or even several) perspective. If you collect a large variety of data-points, often times patterns that were previously undetectable begin to emerge.

[@c.magdaleno1376]

I agree that different perspectives are helpful and might help researchers stay on the right track.

[@billythorough3787]

I am so excited to see a live show finally. I have been following you very closely, Curt. You have an amazing show! Thank you!

[@mandygershon8603]

1974-1978, stationed w/Dad at Malmstrom, but lived below Great Falls Int'l Airport. Saw craft, creatures, and house had poltergeist activity. Studied hauntings, UFOs, but learning of Skinwalker Ranch clicked. We were just kids at the time. Would have been considered crazy.

[@josephgomez5816]

In my teens, i lived at a house in santa clarita that had lots of weird stuff going on, similiar to the situations associated with these "hitchhikers". i vividly remember seeing a "black hole" like looking ufo above my house with my brother. other nights id hear what sounded like being pounded on throughout the house. another time, every single window in the house was being violently banged on, and the crazy thing was i remember looking at all the windows and turning the lights on to see what was causing it and there was nothing outside of any of the windows. they were being tapped and banged so hard to the point where if you tried recreating the banging, the windows would definitely break. it was an intense experience but i always thought that the place must be some sort of hot spot for spirits or other entities.

[@jomaw0875]

Trick of the mind.

[@janeE011]

@@jomaw0875 joking?!

[@andreedelslund2138]

Dear Curt. As usual, great interview. Thank you! And here's my message for you: You can be VERY proud of yourself, and I very much hope that you know this. You are doing such a great job, and it's obvious how much work, thought and dedication you put into your channel, and all your interviews. I've been a big fan of the TOE channel from day one. The topics you deal with are very much interests of mine, plus I deeply appreciate, and identify with, the way and depth with which you approach your thinking on these topics. Your openness and complete honesty intellectually, and with your audience in general, is something that I have a lot of respect for. It's an integrity which, sadly, is not that common on KZbin, quite the opposite in fact. Well, that's my experience anyway. I rarely make comments and never messaged anyone on KZbin before, but always knew that, sooner or later, I was going to express my appreciation and gratitude for the work you do. Listening to the outro for this fascinating interview, it became apparent that this is that moment. So again; thank you so very much for your work! It is deeply appreciated and inspiring 🙏! Btw, it's impossible not to notice that you have taken the overall quality levels even higher recently. The way that you present yourself, your articulation, the production, structure. I could keep going. Whatever you are doing, it definitely shows and it's very inspiring. You deserve every bit of success that comes your way, now and in the future, and I wish you all the best. Thank you! Kind regards, André Edelslund.

[@maudestuff]

Hear hear!

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Oh my gosh. Thank you so much Andre. Truly!

[@felixbodea2812]

Curt, the UFO topic is not just an important lead to potentially making progress in understanding consciousness, physics and building TOEs, but it is by itself important for us to better conceptualise our relationship to other intelligences. This is important for those of us who are at least as experiential as we are analytical if not more, and it plays a major role in the way we as humans will evolve ‘meaning’ in the future!

[@joypadb]

I don’t think that Curt enjoys the topic. Maybe it makes him look like he’s an advocate for UFO’s and there is a stigma attached. He also said recently that there’s not enough evidence, just some grainy photos. But he’s been able to get great people talking about the subject at an important time for the subject. I’ve read that Newton had to be pulled away from his religious studies to work on science. I think it’s important that these conversations are taking place and I hope Curt makes peace with that. Give em what they want before what they need

[@Bdoc76]

@@joypadb " Not enough evidence ", there's probably an abundance of evidence if truth be told, FOiA and classified releases and some not so grainy blurred footage, give us enough evidence to say with confidence something is happening. That should have generated the impulse to properly investigate the situation, that that hasn't happened in a satisfactory manner and that for most of the last 70 odd years the official narrative has been "you didn't see that and nor did we " I think speaks for itself. There's more than enough evidence to say the phenomenon is real the problem is you can't really have an authority figure speak about it because they are most likely only going to be able to say " we don't really know what it is ". Others with authority and power not granted to them by the people may well know more. I think the whole UFO side of the phenomena has been, for want of a better term, hijacked and disclosure when it comes will be managed in such a way as to avoid talk of an ET information divide between elected and non elected persons. Also, if it's a "nuts and bolts" mystery and these craft are piloted by organic beings similar to us, a knowledge of our physics and science may well be of reduced use to us when we try and understand their capabilities which, given what we know may well seem like magic. The issue is not so much lack of evidence it's just that the physical evidence is either withheld, or perhaps doesn't exist ( in any useful sense ) and also when encountered is so startling as to be largely incomprehensible, disclosure is one thing, contact will be a whole other level, particularly if it's not a " nuts and bolts " mystery. It's a fascinating frustrating subject and I've given way too much time to it over 30 years and more. I know more than when I first started studying the subject but in studying the phenomenon I think ones largest learning is how little we really know.

[@joypadb]

@@Bdoc76 I also think that the alien in a spaceship is the easiest way we can comprehend it and that it’s something ‘other’ that is harder, possibly more scary to understand. I think consciousness plays an equal part as the science or tech involved. And yeah I spend too much time on the subject also…

[@annascott3542]

​@@Bdoc76 Definitely been an impossible issue and you can see why when you take into account how hard it is to admit anything it bc of the nature of the massive discrepancies between technological capabilities, rather their superiority. Implicit in revealing anything to the public also reveals weaknesses to enemies for exploitation, along with the cover-up that’s been taking place for the last odd 70 years, then the abductions and the implication that the government has been unable and is impotent in the the face of whatever these entities are to protect its citizens, and the very real menacing risk of unfriendly world powers making strategic alliances or deals without our knowledge to gain advantages to serve their own ends. which all point back to how problematic this whole issue is for every government. Even if they aren’t threatening us it would be irresponsible for any government not to view them as a threat specifically in light of the fact that there’s been a history of them regularly interfering with our nuclear facilities, which is the last thing anyone on this planet once is a threat and fear narrative a lot at stake here.

[@Bdoc76]

@@annascott3542 You chime perfectly with Richard Dolan on this aspect and I concur with every word you wrote

[@wetelectronics238]

The silence and the feeling as if time stops or suddenly gets cold is very commonly reported in UAP/UFO sightings and in Bigfoot sightings weirdly enough. Almost as if for a moment the incident changes time itself or causes a momentary merger of two time lines.

[@jjjordan3881]

I feel like dimensions converge in certain spots allowing these phenomenon to bleed thru so to speak into our dimension. I've always felt that way since I began researching skin walker and the national park disappearances. I feel like that's why ppl disappear without a trace in these spots as well, that bleed thru effect.

[@wetelectronics238]

Yeah it is an interesting idea.@@jjjordan3881

[@nmc8931]

Man the shit Colm says around 1hr 26 minutes is extremely valuable and genius. Ill never forget that going forward

[@perro626]

Curt, you have interview many of the most known English-speaking alive subjects of the UFO world. A topic that interests millions. Asking them the questions the audience had for them, in a respectful and professional way. And you've done a pretty good job. I thank you for that. Take the time you think you'll need. Don't let this amazing topic get you too much dragged into de rabbit hole. Greetings from Argentina.

[@3isr3g3n]

Mr. Knapp is a living legend. Thanks for this!

[@skehleben7699]

I seriously can't figure out how I missed this interview! I love TOE and try and watch as many as possible because I always learn something and gain a new perspective. A year late, but here I am!

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Glad you enjoyed it - Curt

[@lazyboylarry4345]

That account of the wolf standing on it's hind legs with it's arms crossed was spooookeeee!

[@carywilliams515]

The fact that we can communicate telepathically with these crafts or beings is VERY significant to me

[@XoXo475]

Once again you’ve knocked it out of the park Curt. Your UFO related interviews are top notch. Bravo!

[@VitaminStudios]

When that creature disappeared when Colm chased it behind the homestead 2 building, it probably hopped through a portal. What he described was exactly what Travis Taylor and his team discovered on Homestead 2 using a FLIR camera and they are speculating on the back side of the house is where an "eye" shaped anomaly showed up that shows no heat signature when looking through thermo. This was in Season 2 of Secrets of Skinwalker around episode 3 or 4 They also reported seeing a creature run off shortly after running an experiment away from this "portal". Its a really interesting coincidence that caught my attention

[@skehleben7699]

This was absolutely the most informative interview ever, concerning skinwalker ranch type of phenomena. The conscious observer question really needs a whole show, a long show, to explore the phenomena! Fascinating stuff Curt!

[@Scottstokes95]

So what the figments of our imaginations become reality?

[@thetruthchannel349]

@@Scottstokes95 *No. Its that Conscious contains 2 elements these phenomena exploit - Attention - Desire & I would say that Curiosity is the Bridge that joins these 2 together because attention without desire doesn't seem to lead down a road where they are able to manifest as well. However, Focus + Desire is like throwing gas on a fire. You can't capture figments of your imagination on cam. Why dont you try it sometime?* )

[@thetruthchannel349]

'The conscious observer question' *It's the ONLY controllable aspect of this experiment available. The elements of the Phenomena cannot be controlled. Only the Observer & the caliber of Observer can be controlled. Id have to presume they figured this out at some point. They had to have. I can't see how you wouldn't figure that out.*

[@zalz82]

You have the BEST interviews on these kinds of subjects. Very thorough, very pragmatic, & very open. Awesome!

[@Peter7966]

Curt, you've touched on some very strange stuff with the UFO phenomena. The more I've explored this topic, the less ground I feel beneath me, ground that I've counted on as a foundation for my basic understanding of the world around me. I know I can't wrap my mind around a lot of today's cutting edge science. It's too abstract. But this UFO phenomena seems even further out there, like something in the shadows of everyday life that shakes everything "normal" up, something that's not supposed to be there but apparently is, something that seems to be able to hide in plain sight and screw with us... at will.

[@dougr8646]

There countless alternative universes and some of them figured out how to cut into other ones (aka ours). That's it. Thats the answer. You're welcome

[@TheBmco99]

I was A little bit about them really been in existence in 1974 over to Columbia River and daylight I seen my first one of clothes it was quite eye-opening I’ve seen a couple cents but not close like that one was it was a great saucer with an orange is red looking mobile on top he was checking the Portland airport out we snuck up on it we came under an overpass and popped up onto the highway and there it was

[@andrewclarke6916]

@@dougr8646 All sorted. You've cracked it. Just need the evidence from you to support your claims. It's certainly a credible possibility though.

[@shable1436]

At least you didn't encounter an experience that shook you to the core that changed your paradigm so fast that it gave you no time to even figure things out at all. This happens to so many, and that traumatized ppl for life.

[@Peter7966]

@@shable1436 Agree. I can handle the confusion of the whole topic... and normalize it in my life. It's kind of like putting a foot in a hot bath before fully immeresing myself. It's still an adjustment, at first.

[@eick474]

About summoning, I am half French, half Brazilian…from 1997 to 2003 I lived in Brazil, Campo Grande - estado MS, I withessed strange things related to UFO. After only 1 month I saw something very strange in the Sky. I was outside with my girlfriend, it was late and becoming dark, in à short Time the sky became full of clouds, and strange light appeared. There were one big ligth that didn’t move staying stationery, and another one who was turning around the first one, I think at first, that it was a guy at the Brazilian air force base who was doping so with a big Spotlight…and sudenly a civilian airplane took off from the aeroport, the Light that was moving came above the clouds, just on top of the airplane illuminating the plane from above, not from the botom. Part 2: In my job, I was talk in a lot about UFO. One day has we were talking about UFO, we were outside smoking à cigarette, in the Sky at less than 100 meters there were 2 forms with no shape floating like to very smal clouds, but it wasnt’t like a cloud. It was more like a gasoil spot at the surface of water. 3 days later Coming back home , I saw the same Form above my housse. The fait that we always were talking of UFO, isn’t a way to summon them. Part 3 the most significant : One day Coming back home from my job, I was in the bus, and when I get out of the bus, I told to myself loudly and in french, that I would like to see a UFO, but a big one I said à mothership. One week later, I took back home my girlfriend at the university and in the way back, we saw above the trees something hovering overdose the trees. I tought that it was a baloon or a big kite, and it was far away. Has I was aproaching more and more closely I realised that it wasn’t a kite or a balloon. It was cylindrical and big. At one point I was so close from it that I could see this big UFO the size of a boeing 737, I was at less than 100 m and it was hovering at only 50m from the ground, I was terribly exited, by this perfectly shiny cylindrical UFO, I haven’t seen any light. it was really like a cylindrical bar of shiny metal. Then, It begun to take of very smoothly but with a lot af acceleration, because in less than 10 seconds, it was from 50m from the ground to a small point right above ours heads up in the sky, then vanished. So when a week earlier I was asking to see one more time a UFO, did I summoned it?? And it came! Has I told you I’m half French and half Brazilian, English is not my natural language and I apologyse for the mistakes I did certainly in the way I tell my story. I tried several times to talk about this, but usualy people don’t care, but for this certainly, the best experience I had in my hole life… Thanks

[@therealghostdimension1026]

Thanks for all your work Curt-and especially for keeping an open mind! I’m a prof video analyst having examined many thousands of UFO and paranormal videos, and think i can safely state that there are professional ufo/uap investigators that have experiences &/or video footage that they simply cannot disclose (for a hundred reasons). Videos and photos do not constitute scientific evidence but sometimes the action or motion or images depict something so far out of our ability to conceive or imagine or understand or even explain! (even for me!) Plus there is the ‘shock effect’ that takes place during a profound experience or sighting - that yanks your current ‘believe system’ right out of your soul - replacing it with your new reality! It can be life-changed but it can also be traumatizing, and there may be harmful effects on your body being in close proximity to it! (i was hospitalized twice, once for a day, one time for a week-where the ER doctors said i only had minutes to live!) Be careful to everyone who investigates the paranormal! Thanks to everyone too! from Calgary Alberta.

[@jimmcluhan2455]

Good job even getting an audience and interviewing these two heavyweights Curt, you being a neophyte in the genre wading into the thick of a massive depth of lore, fiction, and fact; an extremely deep complex body of work with a history at least thrice your age. I'm grateful you wisely dimmed your role, and let them present. For their part, George and Kelleher took us nicely through compact survey of the topic without skipping a beat. George is as good as it gets, and what a treat to hear him be so introspective and also give us bones full of meat to chew on. Very interesting to see George correct Kelleher keeping him honest on the paranormal aspect of the animal mutilations; hats off to George there, and he did it so gracefully without loss of face to Kelleher who seems influenced by an agenda seeking more funding. George has no such agenda, rather he wants to honestly impart his knowledge, specifically what his condensed thoughts are in making sense of his 30 years of investigating the topic. Those thoughts of his are like finding grams of gold while sifting through tones of gravel - a much appreciated treasure.

[@kez0o9]

A great honest and very revealing chat, look forward to round 2.

[@guitagious9464]

(For those who want to save time on this lengthy but wonderful video, maybe start at the 2:00:00 mark where George does a fantastic job of summarizing all the different kinds of phenomena going on at Skinwalker Ranch.)

[@louisbrown4620]

George Knapp is absolutely one of the top journalists ever.

[@emzywillrich7243]

Curt, physicist Carlo Rovelli, who you had on your podcast once, has a beautiful quote on the back of his book, "Seven Brief Lessons On Physics" that I have never forgotten; "Here, on the edge of what we know, in contact with the ocean of the unknown, shines the mystery and the beauty of the world,. And it's breathtaking." I think this is the approach that we all must take as we discover these new realities that we're so fortunate enough to be alive to witness. You can find peace by just accepting these new realities as beautiful new flowers that the Earth are finally showing us. No one said that paradigm shifts were going to be easy. I know exactly how you're feeling because I feel the same way. However, this is not the time to slow down and take a break from the "UFO stuff." This is the time to speed up because we don't know how long the window is going to be open. How about you do what I'm doing, by watching your podcasts interviews and conducting my own research. Let's just peek down the rabbit hole and take good notes, but never jump in it. :)

[@ninatolchinsky5193]

Curt - I think you are beating yourself up over the Linda Moulton Howe interview unnecessarily. You were doing your job, keeping your standards impeccably high as always and you were respectful to boot. In my experience you are one of the purest, most honest and fair souls I’ve ever had the privilege to observe. Please cut yourself a great deal of slack. We’re lucky to have you - no matter the topic, no matter the guest. You make the world a better place.

[@MEshaoWords]

I just discovered this channel three days ago so I haven’t gotten to that one yet since there’s so many others ahead of it I plan to watch. What happened during the interview with Linda? Did she get offended by Curt trying to verify her assertions or something?

[@superbwater78]

To be fair, I think she is misled. In one of her podcasts she believes there is an Alien presence the "Nordics" are here to protect us while the others are here to kill us. In my opinion they are all not good. It's a "good cop, bad cop" way to confuse us. Ancient demons to terrorize us. Which is why the government is terrified to tell us. This is all biblical. If people would just read their Bible it explains everything. You can call me crazy all you want but it is true. We all need to repent and pray. God gave us his only begotten Son for a REASON. Jesus Christ is the truth.

[@Unknownhumans45]

There valid questions I think is not his fault, i think is just bad timing question.

[@extrememiami]

Curt was professional as always. I don't blame Linda also, I think that Curt is on the younger side of interviewers that she is used to. She gets broadsided by so many skeptics unneedlessly that she clearly has her guard up level 10. I don't blame Linda either, she is 82 years old and her brain functions so impressively for 82. It really was noones fault and simply a misunderstanding with a dash of bad timing. She was clearly getting tired, for her age she really gave a long interview. She misheard or misunderstood the question, she didn't realize this was LIVE. Think about it if you had no clue others could ask questions and then you get a question like that you might not understand either and feel like something fishy is going on. I don't think ANY less of her though and I applaud her for giving so much of her time and energy for us. Curt was professional just like his baseline 100% of the time. I hope Curt sent a thank you bouquet of flowers to her and I'm sure there's no hard feelings on either side. I hope to God when I'm 82, that I'm half as sharp as Linda! Thank you both, and thank you for having a deep interest in this topic. I don't care if they all turn out to be Chinese drones made to look like UFOs so people won't report them, or if they really are otherworldly craft, we 100% need to find out.

[@fredhammer1526]

Linda is a fraud.

[@stevekaspar1396]

This is one of the BEST FOE conversations.. Great job!!!!

[@nancysmith2295]

You are an intelligent great interviewer. I do not recall your Linda Moultin Howe interview. She is just as good as you are. That's the bottomline: you're both terrific at what you do!

[@LaserGuidedLoogie]

STEM guy here, you are best suited to explore these topics. It needs hard core science treatments, please keep at it.

[@Rokudammela]

Curt, please don't mind the haters. The topic is fresh and demands curiosity and people like you - asking questions without necessarily subscribing nor refusing any hypothesis. It's good to have someone with a broader range of interests approaching this most interesting, albeit controversial, Phenomenon with an open mind. As for the SR, I know it's something even the UFO community tends to be skeptic about - and it's fair, I mean, it's quite hard to take anything at face value. Anyway, this doesn't justify a dismissive attitude: people interested in 'fringe' science, let alone in the UAP topic, shouldn't understimate the possibilities something THIS big could open up, if even a tiny part of it were proven true. Of course, as of know it all comes to unsubstantiated claims, like for many other issues correlated to the UAP topic, but that doesn't mean it doesn't hold any relevance or that it doesn't contain some nuggets for anyone remotely interested in the topic. Thank you once again, Curt, for your work!

[@astronorthwet636]

The story of the daughter and father driving by Skinwalker and upon seeing the three orbs they came into their car reminds me of the double slit experiment. This is where photons behave as waves until observed, then choose one or the other of the slits. So just the act of someone watching or measuring something collapses the wave function into a particle which becomes “real”. It almost sounds like these things exist as a bunch of possibilities until someone sees them. Then they zero in on whoever sees them. Then this follows that person home and more people see them and collapse the wave function and they become real for those people as well. Update: watched to the end and I see someone else brought up the same idea. Let me add one more from an old Hollywood movie “Forbidden Planet”. A crew of explorers go to a planet where they and everyone before them were attacked by monsters from the Id, or the hidden thoughts of our own minds, which are brought out by a fantastic machine that manufactures reality from thoughts of the people within its influence.

[@aleksanderh.5407]

No relation ROFL. One can create hallucinations + genetic xprmnts, how the DSE is taught in the alt..rnative media is trickery and sup..rstitions

[@kristjiannne]

The first reason reply is NOT a reply, it’s more like a retweet from the author. What’s up with that? I’ve seen this before, and it wastes my time. 😢

[@Optable]

The Three-Polarizer paradox! Beautiful science. My favorite topic, *after logic gates* and the facts: The same way computers organize/parse information from NL to binary, in sided switches; left/right, on/off, 1/0, yes/no, black/white, etc. by way of circuit boards, is specifically identical to the way ribosomes replicate, structure, and transfer DNA information. More, both identical to the way many flora store/transmit energy from the sun in photosynthesis. As in, identical fashion at the microscopic level downward. These are just three examples. They are plenty, and incredibly extraordinary themes of both natural life, computing, organic chemistry, electronics, quantum physics, and nature laws. At the level: this works, because nature says it should. As in, one of the most evolutionarily structure and organization systems to best navigate, transmit, store, pass, simplify, expand, and communicate highly complex information at the starting phases. Quantum logic gates are highly necessary to quantum computing and many quantum topics. Just in superconduction design alone, it was determined in 2021 that layered (on/off) sources, play a key role in the efficacy of thrust and propulsion requirements. Atomic and chemical bonding itself heavily display logic gate properties at the atomic level. Thus, it may be the case, varying types of such are the necessary piece of the technological scientific puzzle of our world and our future.

[@cjcoleman3893]

Sound like the Montauk monster

[@haraldharam9334]

Ever heard of an Tulpa?

[@beebester4106]

What an interview! Wow!

[@TheCjbowman]

Thank you Curt! Intellectual bravery is good, and you should take it seriously. The real nature of reality doesn't care what scientists think. It is what it is, regardless.

[@johnw1150]

Only caught part of show before it went private, from what I saw it was great as usual Curt, can't wait to see rest of interview!

[@kell7195]

Outstanding interview! I've found out more about the ranch in this interview than I have in years of hearing about it.

[@goodshepard00]

Thank you for this excellent interview. Best wishes.

[@awesomeisasawesomedoesyo182]

This is the best interview of these two gentlemen I have ever seen. Curt your podcast is a cut above so to speak. I thank each of you so much. Superb!

[@rickolson6826]

I love to see all the big brains here engaged on this. I'm just a simple truck driver but I saw one of these in SF Bay Area in the late 80s. It really changes your life. My encounter was distant enough to just leave me amazed and forever interested. I appreciate your kind in depth approach. Thanks

[@samasonedderman]

Thank you so much. I'm not one of those'big brained' people, but this interview was most enlightening. ❤

[@maureenrichmond214]

I viewed this in early May 2023 and found it inestimably valuable in getting a grip on the nature of the Phenomenon.

[@ImagoDei3312]

This happened to me. My brother and i used to do a little paranormal investigating as a hobby. this is was in and around Nashville Tennessee. i live and Florida, and when i came home to the apartment my mom an i were in at the time, we had undeniable experiences. Puddles were forming out of nowhere. without vessel near it. no leaks from above and no water splatter. We had two different dreams at the same time (sometime around 2:30ish in the AM. woke up at the same time, opened our doors at the same time, and poked our heads out to look at each other at the same time. both dreams had a malevolent entity that clearly wanted us dead. when i woke up i actually had sleep paralysis for the first time in my life. I usually exclude this part as i sometimes want to chalk it up to my nerves, but i swear there was a shadow that jumped off my bed and into the wall. and when it jumped, my bed shook violently. Also, my one and only instance of sleep walking, in which i stormed through the apartment and unlocked the door to leave just before my mom woke me up by screaming my name. the apartment was on top of a garage, so as soon as you opened the front door you would immediately have to walk up a floor of stairs to get to the living area. i woke at the bottom of the stairs with my hand on the door knob with the door unlocked. my mom asked me what i was doing, and i told her that i had no idea. after i came back up stairs, she told me that i stomped through the apartment more than walked through. my footsteps were so loud that i woke her up on the other end of the apartment.... Now watching this, with absolute chills i ask...... was i about to be abducted?

[@scotthill1600]

Fuck me, puddles forming out of nowhere, the same exact dream at the same time of an entity clearly wanting to cause you harm, shadow jumping from your body into the wall & bed shaking violently as it happened? I’d freak the fuck out dude, that’s freaky as hell

[@CSOne_]

George Knapp has no children, but I say he should be voted Grandpa O’ The Year anyway… George knows how convey the message. I’ve always liked his style. Thanks, Curt

[@ozramblue117]

I really enjoy these and I’m so glad you’re doing them. It’s great to see these characters talk on the issue in such free form and for so long. Feel like I’m late to your party but glad I got here. I can say with some confidence that I’m as certain as ever about my total ignorance.

[@christianlingurar7085]

1:09:30 I had a very similar experience regarding that "cone of silence", but in connection with exciting, but very natural encounters. I once unexpectedly stumbled over an alpine golden eagle on the ground (10 feet or less) and on another event I sneaked out of the reeds into a clearing in a swamp onto a bunch of cranes. In both cases I remember the numbing silence on the shock. I'm quite certain it's a psychological effect.

[@kyliemac02]

Curt, I learn a lot from your interviews, and I appreciate the opportunity to hear the thoughtful discussions. Thank you for being a place for science, the exchange of ideas, and a place for love and compassion. That's not an easy combination to come by. Please keep doing the work that you do.

[@ninjadave1970]

Great interview it kept me fascinated all the way through it. As a" bubba" Bigfoot Researcher, having had several personal sightings and encounters, I find that I too can personally identify with your guests and what they had to share. Especially with what's known as the "Hitchhiker Effect " . Alot of my fellow Bigfoot Researchers have had the experiences before with them being "followed home" effects. Especially when the exchanging of gifts has occurred. Its as Scott Carpenter so well stated , that accepting their gifts, gives them certain permissions... I found one particular sighting interesting, where my expectations were one thing, but then the total opposite occurred, as I expected this one cryptid to be easily chased out from behind the brush it was hiding in, however it didn't frighten or scare away easily, as it instead stopped turned and faced me head on! I was left with quite the dilemma, Now what do I do? I thought. I said to myself, well that didn't quite go according to my plan, lol As I watched this creature turned invisible right there in front of me. It's outermost edge was all that was visible, just a thin black outline, that had inwardly tiny black tassels that shimmered and retracted into its outermost edge before it too disappeared, turning completely invisible. I turned around and started walking back out of the brush pile, back towards the main walking trail, when I hear its following behind me. I was too afraid to look back behind me, as Janice Carter seeing it, yelled over to me, Be careful William, It's right behind you! I'm thinking almost comically to myself, oh great, now I've made a new friend, like a lost puppy dog, that's going to follow me home...

[@Wartooth6]

this is the most interesting topic ever.

[@pascalguerandel8181]

Curt..in the beginning..you seem to be abrasive... you have mellowed out so much...and now your videos are on fantastic level with your mellowness! ❤

[@anniemal9312]

The ending where Curt stays with the audience is so unique and it makes us feel connected with each other.

[@Kanamit3150]

Kurt. As long as you have peace of mind, continue with the UFO stuff. You'll be no good to yourself or anyone unsettled and anxious. Bright minds tend to suffer anxiety more often, I've observed in life. That said your product is brilliant and respectful, regardless of the lumps you think you need to take. We are ready when you are. Take your time. Standing by :)

[@N0rt4t3m]

Great episode thank you

[@bambilee5073]

I do want to. Say I really enjoy your honesty and sincerity. We are all just human and because of that we are perfectly imperfect. That's a good thing I think . Bless you and your family 💗

[@cdurkinz]

This was fricken amazing I can listen to these guys talk for hours I hope you can do it again sometime there’s so much you just can’t cram into 2 hours. George is a wealth of knowledge can’t get enough of him.

[@michaelho5040]

Curt et all, I do agree that the "hitchhiker" effect is quite credible and has a long history. Chinese people for a long, long time believe that if you go to a cemetery, you may run the possibility of being followed by "bad spirits". Thus, if we go to cemeteries (for whatever reason), we always try to go somewhere else afterward, some places with a lot of traffic such as restaurants, shopping malls. supermarkets, etc... for a while before we return home. The idea is to "lose" or "shake out" those spirits in the middle of the crowd so that they cannot follow you home.

[@257rani]

All this need to be on DVD's ❤🇺🇸❤🌏🌍🌎❤🕊

[@MrEdWeirdoShow]

We now know that it isn't just a matter of UFOs moving between general "dimensions." Instead they actually travel between various alternate TIMELINES. Which is a whole different ballgame. Have they goofed up and changed the time continuim? Still might be too soon to tell. But you must admit things have lately gotten pretty nutty.

[@susanparrott5175]

Curt, my dear, I think you think too much. You are good. Your energy is good. You are kind and compassionate. Linda has her own demons, don't take them on as your own. Being offended is a choice, especially after receiving an apology! As for not answering questions, no she did not answer your questions. And there's one thing you have forgotten, you prepared for her, but I don't believe she prepared for you. If she had, she might have received your questions better. That is on her, not you! Much love ♥️

[@jimtheakston9732]

Sorry curt but I think you are a M.O.D CIA OP IN THE 90S IN EUROPE IT WAS CALLED MAD COW DISEASE ??? LOOK UP THE CAUSE OF IT ??? GEORGE I THINK YOU'VE BECOME A GOVERNMENT LAP DOGLIKE SO MANY LONG TIME UFO RESEARCHERS???

[@c.magdaleno1376]

I agree, Curt, you think too much! And expect yourself to be perfect. What helped me (because I was always much, much less than perfect, so I was climbing walls) was to see a therapist. No, not because you're crazy, which is a useless label anyway. Because he/she could teach you healthy ways of thinking. In my case, she used two: cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness.

[@KibyNykraft]

​@@c.magdaleno1376 you mean expensive am..rican fraud ? 😊

[@aaronbankston5702]

Something about your podcasts just make me want have a cup of coffee and just listen. The amount of info that can come out of these is just insane. They’re so engaging and wholesome. Thank you sir 🙏🏻

[@bryanpinto4051]

Tea, no coffee

[@louisroth5941]

Curt, I hope you are well. I am just watching this podcast now. You are making content that I enjoy watching. Keep up the good work.