George Lucas DESTROYED His First Film (THX 1138: The Director's Cut)

[@justincrane8825]

You’re wrong that THX is the only other film Lucas has changed. He’s changed American Graffiti as well. Initially the studio cut a few minutes out of it that he later restored, and later again he digitally changed the sky in the opening shot.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Interesting, didn’t know that.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

The 4K has also been scrubbed so bad it looks worse than the DVD. The theatrical is a different beast it has the mono mix i have the bootleg. It doesn't have some enhanted evening or the funny scene with Terry and the car salesman. It also has different end credits.

[@jesustovar2549]

Hey, at least the changes aren't massive compared to Star Wars.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

He also had Walter Murch re-record it in Stereo in 1978 for theatrical release. And also again for the 4K 5.1.

[@kthx1138]

Not to mention the egregious grain removal he did for the 4K.

[@Jolar70]

It's not just "less is more", for a movie that was so incredibly visually unique, it's that "more" disassembles that unique universe. The original (or '77 cut that was eventually released to VHS) shows a world that was hermetically interior. A few larger, shopping mall-like interiors were used, but it all felt very subterranean. Much of it was famously shot in the BART subway tunnels, then under construction. The added CGI scenes of rushing cars on multi-storey freeways, with what look like exterior apartment structures in the background appear more like a Blade Runner set than the more antiseptic maze of corridors and tunnels of THX. It's a quiet story, so every loud intrusion of flashy visuals shuts the mood down. 10:41 is a perfect example of a set piece that doesn't match the original film at all. That's not even late '60s / early '70s architecture or futurism, it just looks like every airport from the 2000s and up! If anything, he should've spliced back in any weird shit that Zoetrope removed, even before Hollywood did! This is my absolute favorite cinematography of Lucas' career, and if I were him, I would highlight the psychedelic and abstract aspects of THX, from the era in which it was made, rather than shoe-horn in "modern" effects, that have dated much faster than the original materials. You can't make this modern, so make it WEIRDER!

[@TerminalConstipation]

for me, part of the problem with putting all these high-sci-fi elements in THX (lots of crazy cars, high speed trains, and elevators) kind of takes away from the message. The original film is fucking bleak because these people live like robots, and for what? So, they can walk around, do terrible jobs making more cops, buy useless garbage, take drugs to numb their brains, and watch tv? Yes! That's the point: this awful society produces nothing good and offers nothing of value, because it is incapable of anything without human independence and creativity. It's offices, and hallways, and empty rooms.

[@innercynic2784]

Lucas once quoted some director in the past who said that "movies aren't finished they're abandoned"... or something like that. Problem with Lucas is that he keeps obsessively screwing around with things that any charm there once was has been vacuumed out.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas changes what he wants, it's his films, he's the creative genius, the perfectionist filmmaker. The director's cut of THX-1138 improves on the original film and clarifies plot elements.

[@TrayChester01]

Yes, lucas has the right to make changes to his films. But he does NOT have the right to destroy history. The original cuts should be available in the same package as his "updates." Luckily, we have fans like Team Negative1 and Harmy to preserve the originals.

[@justincrane8825]

Do you have any idea how many films are lost to history, or how many filmmakers have changed their films without keeping the original versions available? Destroy history? Give me a break. History is destroyed by the passage of time every single day, and no amount of internet rage will ever change that.

[@TrayChester01]

@@justincrane8825 Go screw yourself. So, you have an opinion. Even though it is WRONG, big deal. You should work for lucasfilm with that attitude.

[@NebLleb]

Agreed. It's not that we hate Special Editions of Star Wars and THX 1138, it's that we hate that Lucas isn't offering the original cuts!

[@TrayChester01]

@@NebLleb Well, I actually DO hate them, but I know what you mean. I'm just glad to have the original, award-winning films in 4K.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

The team has decided to only do the original cuts of the trilogy, the 1997 edits and the prequels. Because they don't want the mouse to come down on them. Preserving lost theatrical releases only for Star Wars. They archived their Indiana Jones prints because of the official 4K releases. The James Bond stuff is similarly gone into a hole or stashed somewhere. They have no intention of doing America Graffiti or THX 1138. The Italian IB tech of THX was scanned years ago and shared with few. The 480P Graffiti bootleg telecine was shared until it was deleted from the internet, lucky i downloaded it. I have been asked to not share it, its on Myspleen. I have LIteMakr Raiders 35mm also not allowed to share. I did ask for the work in progress directors cut of 1978 THX 1138 with laserdisc footage married to the IB tech scan while they waited for Poita, i never got a reply. I did find this in standard def somewhere and not HD but why in gods name would you scan an IB tech in HD and only upload it in laserdisc quality.

[@hebneh]

Factoid: The license number of the lead car in “American Graffiti” is THX 138. That is historically accurate as well because California license plates in 1962 used the ABC 123 numbering format.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

American Graffiti and THX take place in the same universe confirmed?!?!

[@hebneh]

@@BraveBladeProductions Yes, definitely. They just take place at different times.

[@jesustovar2549]

​@@hebnehHarrison Ford being of different dimensions, George Lucas multi-verse, I wonder if Bob Falfa is related to Indy.

[@davehandelman2832]

THX is aGODDAMN masterpiece. The changes are FANTASTIC. No they do NOT compare to the SE. The updated effects in SE are great. But changing character voices, jabba, greedo, they all detract from the original that was FAR superior. The changes in THX are there to enhance the world. They add a visual richness that Lucas couldn't have. I've only watched the new THX but in a side by side comparison, the new effects are relatively SEAMLESS. they REALLY Put a tremendous amount of care into blending the old with the new. A PERFECT example is the eye roll- THAT'S DIGITAL!! I love every second of this perfect film.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Glad you enjoy it.

[@jonmcinnis1645]

⁠@@BraveBladeProductionsi respect your opinion on THX 1138 BTW right now in 2024 I’m still waiting for a sequel to THX 1138 in my opinion. Just Saying?

[@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748]

@@BraveBladeProductions george lucas added masturbation to THX , ruined it , the guy is a pervert and ruined it i had to get the original laserdisc scope , fed up with his cgi and masturbating his , his well we don't have to buy them , originals exist but usa uk blu people have an ego issue it needs to be uhd but uhd is rubbish disc format its a milking format that will masturbate you

[@Nerm_co_uk]

7:04 is EXACTLY what it was like watching the special editions in the cinema! Especially that very first, janky CG Jabba 🤣

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Glad I have somewhat of an understanding now.

[@grayfox6518]

When a piece of art leaves the creator's hands to the public, I think if they decide to go back and make changes to it, then they must relinquish their control of the original. Because messing with the original is to destroy history in a sense, and that's never a good thing if it's just for the sake of one person's ego. That's like writing a book, deciding you didn't like something about the original book, and then rereleasing a new version of the book but burning every single copy of the original so no one can see the original again.

[@Knightmessenger]

Copyright law should be changed that taking a work out of circulation for a long period of time, puts the original work in public domain.

[@user-ip3mk4vk7y]

Hey did also “adjust” the opening shot for American Graffiti as well. He can’t leave anything alone.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Didn’t know that.

[@ALMOSTMACROSWAG]

i didn’t think it was that bad. i can see why people don’t like the changes, but i’d argue the directors cut is the definitive edition.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Understandable.

[@billdestroyerofworlds]

The jerk off machine actually fits perfectly with the setting of the film. This is a society that has stuck men and women together to live as roommates and drugged them to not feel any sexual attraction to each other, instead directing them to feel sexual pleasure by using machines. I also have no problem with him adding establishment shots that he could never have been able to afford in the original production. I think it's a strong re-edit.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

You're not wrong, but the machines are just outta pocket lol.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

The laserdisc release looks really rough too. The original never had a decent release. I even remember Gary Kurtz talking about how there weren't even good prints of it because it was low budget and a flop and the best he saw making the rounds was a 16mm reduction.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Yeah, even though most of the Director's Cut changes suck, at least it finally gave us a high quality home media release.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

@LaserDiscWarrior3043 , just a smidge but its cut unlike the US release.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

@LaserDiscWarrior3043 , nah from what i have been told Japan censors removed something. I don't have the release to confirm.

[@stevenclubb7718]

As someone who saw Star Wars in the theater at release... I don't hate the SE as many fans do, but I think he overdid the CG clutter in several scenes. Popping a CG creature or Droid in the background was fine, while the creatures in the foreground and midground tended to be really distracting. CG Jabba is a necessary evil in restoring that scene and I'll even give the cameo of the over-rated Boba Fett a pass, because there's always fan service in these kinds of things. Looking at the THX footage, I think the scenes that give a bit of scale to things are acceptable when they keep the basic visual look (the train station scene looked okay), while the busier scenes kind of ruin the vibe. I think if you make anything but the most minimal changes, you probably should include both versions on the home release. Doctor Who plays with the effects of the 60s-80s and have the option to watch the original version. And, trust me, slipping CG into an old Doctor Who episode is about the most jarring change you can make.

[@BaltoTheCartoonWolf]

For me, the most egregious offense was the addition of the totally random, unnecessary 'CGI monkeys' at the end of the film. Typical Lucas debasement. Sigh.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Yep.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Yep.

[@InvaderWeezle]

Perfect timing! I finally watched THX 1138 for the first time just yesterday

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Awesome stuff, it's a brilliant watch!

[@jesustovar2549]

I also watched it for the first time last year, the CGI looked weird but some expanded shots of the área look great, so I'm kinda mixed here.

[@jackofalltraits2145]

While I would prefer for the original versions of all of Lucas’s films to be available in an easily accessible format (this goes for the original cuts of the Star Wars trilogy, THX-1138, American Graffiti, the 1997 special editions, the 2004 special editions, and the original cuts of the prequel trilogy) I completely understand where George is coming from and as the artist he’s allowed to make whatever changes he wants. If it was someone else meddling with his work than I could really understand the discourse but these are George’s films and he has a right to do whatever he wants with them. His method of changing his work is also far less intense than other directors like Kubrick who would burn entire sets of film he used of his movies and cut scenes from his films when they were already in theaters. Honestly when it comes to George Lucas’s changes, I think a lot of the worst ones could be made perfect if they just had better CGI. A lot of the special edition changes are great on paper and the execution varies. But that’s just my two cents on the matter.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Options are nice, but at the end of the day they are Lucas' movies.

[@jackofalltraits2145]

@@BraveBladeProductions Oh hell yeah. I don't want to come off as someone who hates George Lucas for the special editions and only wants the theatrical cuts. I grew up with both versions of the films and I was always very indifferent to a lot of the changes. In fact some didn't even register as changes to me like the new Biggs scene in ANH, the added Wampa in TESB, or Darth Vader yelling no at the end of ROTJ. I'm honestly fine with all the changes Lucas has made, and while going back and watching the original VHS tapes is interesting from a history perspective, I do still ultimately prefer the special editions for finishing Lucas's unfinished work and tying the saga together. The changes I don't particularly enjoy like the extended Mos Eisley intro and Jedi Rocks are honestly only because of the dated CGI. On paper their great changes that not only stay more in line with Lucas's original vision but also make the galaxy feel more alive than it ever did before. It just sucks though that the CGI wasn't lucky enough to age well over the past 27 years. In all honesty, the real reason I'ed like for the theatrical cuts (whichever of the dozen different prints that have different audio mixing) to be available is so all the rabid fans would stop complaining about the Special Editions. It's really irritating hearing people complain about not being able to watch "their Star Wars" over and over again. Then again that would allow a lot of the self entitled "George Lucas Raped Our Childhood" fanboys to win and that's something that I don't want to be alive to see come to fruition.

[@saadyahschick7560]

I honestly prefer the newer version, and I think it makes a lot of the locations feel less like sets

[@BraveBladeProductions]

I can appreciate that.

[@Xiy114]

Although they are not always right, artists operate on a different level.

[@fredricclack7137]

ET w/o GUNS! 😠Have!

[@kevinputry5655]

Lucas just needs to stop this. Maybe he prefers these new altered versions but I think we the viewers should be able to chose how we want to watch them. All DVD and blu ray releases of these films should come with the option to watch either version.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Amen brother.

[@maximummovies1]

I have such a love hate relationship with Lucas, But I love him more than I hate him..

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Nice to hear.

[@Xiy114]

They were inventing things as they were doing them. LUCAS SCREWED WITH HIS UPGRADED STAR Wars movies! SAD!!!!

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@labileslama9848]

I can highly recommend the THX 1138 Hybrid Cut by TM2YC, it's the definitive version of the film for me

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Might have to check it out, thanks for the recommend.

[@labileslama9848]

@@BraveBladeProductions it's kinda hard to come by nowadays unfortunately, I had to shoot him a DM on Discord and he sent me a file

[@tabletbooks4967]

During the early months of the pandemic, there was one sequence from the original SW that I really wanted to see, just to remind me of the past world, the lost world: the Falcon taking off from Mos Eisley into the sky, while a stormtrooper on the ground looks on. It's in some ways a very simple shot, but it grounds the film in reality while also being otherworldly and beautiful. And...you pretty much can't see this. It's not on streaming, not on youtube or vimeo, or anywhere. You need a bitcoin wallet and a working knowledge of Cantonese to try and glimpse a moment from the most popular and ubiquitous movie of all time.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Crazy.

[@SewerTapes]

I've still never seen this version. Only the bad VHS I had long ago, on a CRT TV. Mildly off topic, but kind of not: Today, I was milling about in my movie "archive"/hard drive, and I found a copy of A New Hope, separate from my Star Wars folder. It is the original unaltered cut, that looks to be a transfer from an actual 8mm or 16mm physical film home release. The colors are degraded, and it's got tons of film scratches. I have no idea where the hell I got this from, or that I even had it. Fkn weird.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Cool stuff.

[@dylanhudec979]

The Spider-Man across the spider verse reviews on KZbin are laughably sad (the bad ones)

[@jimrogers2089]

Lucas is a total hack. It's blatantly evident in the lack of ticket sales and his movies being virtually unknown to the general public...😶.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

I'm confident that the vast majority of Star Wars fans don't even know that American Graffiti or THX exists.

[@jesustovar2549]

​@@BraveBladeProductionsEvery Star Wars fan should watch THX 1138 and American Graffiti at least once in their lifetimes, but I know some.

[@seanelstob5922]

Your delivery is much better and less robotic than it was. Keep it up.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Thanks mate, will do.

[@thesedgeman9863]

ruined a superb film. the scenes just stand out so badly. BUT, what bothers me the worst, is you can't purchase a copy of the original version, its by and far the best version. and i also can't stand the 'special editions'. again, really bad cgi and they aren't the films i saw when i was a child. bad decisions.

[@kthx1138]

I guess Lucas can't or doesn't want to come up with ideas for NEW films, so he goes back and relentlessly tinkers with his OLD films. I didn't mind the CGI in THX at all. It opens up, expands the world. But it'd be nice to have both versions to compare.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Exactly.

[@josephkania642]

The original THX was much better. Why can't he just make the originals available too? Being a once great filmmaker doesn't mean one isn't a misguided jerk.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

George is a strange man.

[@BackyardPix]

Direction means directing things, right? Well, George Lucas can't direct for shit, so it's a bit rich to call him a "great director". The leap in basic filmmaking quality between Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back is so huge that the former looks like an amateurish mess in comparison.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

George is clearly the ideas man.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas directed THX 1138 and the Star Wars movies, which are pure masterpieces, the best movies of all time, timeless wonders, the visionary work of George Lucas, legendary works that resonate with human history.

[@bilwisss]

*"George! THANKS for fixing that film, that part was really bothering me" (said no one ever.)* ...... i really enjoyed both versions, .....but..... it feels like George is trying to disappear the 1971 version. ------ he very much needed to make the 1971 version also be on the directors cut disk.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Preach!

[@bilwisss]

@Voltar ... i am a lucky boy ! and your finger wag was epic! ...i like both films, both films are valid. i have mine, is George gonna Fahrenheit 451 me for having it? send the firemen? .......mmmm i am gonna go watch The Star Wars Holiday Special.

[@Xiy114]

George Lucas doesn't have the right to change his films! He is NOT A HUNGRY FILMMAKER ANYMORE!

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas has the right to polish his films like any perfectionist.

[@MrRJBowman]

I've never seen the ruined edition in its entirety, but I saw a clip from it in the AFI tribute to George Lucas. I was disgusted that a clip of CGI subway trains was presented by AFI as an example of Lucas's early work, and lost some respect for the organization for basically being Lucas's toady.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

lol.

[@ashdoginc]

I mean, yeah, it is a director's right to change the movie he made. It's just not good practice. My question, though, is: Is it fair for George to alter movies he didn't direct? So with TESB and ROTJ - would it not be right to preserve the original versions of these? And release them alongside the special editions?

[@BraveBladeProductions]

In my eyes George is the creative mastermind behind those movies whether he's listed as the director or not. I think he certainly has the right to change the movies, but it's scummy that he took away the original versions.

[@ashdoginc]

@@BraveBladeProductions I know for the 1997 special edition, George did get consent from Irvin Kershner. But of Course the director of ROTJ had died by then. While George certainly was the mastermind behind the franchise - I don't think those 2 movies are strictly "his".

[@matthewgaudet4064]

Nope its not fair. He promised Kersh final cut on Empire, the same as he did to Steven on Raiders. It got around Hollywood the atmosphere on Empire Lucas being a control freak and Kurtz's firing that even if Lucas hadn't left the guild no one would touch JEDI. Lynch turned down Jedi because he didn't want Lucas backseat directing. Ironically he did basically ghost direct Jedi and the second unit. Marquand didn't care because he said it was like having Shakespeare there to help you direct one of his plays. Ultimately Kershner went along with Lucas Special Edition , change what you want George its your movie.

[@beavisdoge237]

@@matthewgaudet4064 Lies and memes

[@matthewgaudet4064]

@@beavisdoge237 , if they are lies complain to the unauthorized writers and documentaries i got my info from. As for final cut that is from alan arnold's making of empire. an official Lucasfilm source.

[@TheCultureVultures.]

I'm the exact opposite of you. I loved the director's cut of THX 1138. I hope it comes out on 4K disc. I have watched the original on VHS back in the day, I prefer the director's cut. Unlike Star Wars, where I'd prefer the originals... although I did find the wampa actually scary in the special edition of Empire Strikes back for the first time after memorizing the originals.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Hey, everyone has their own personal taste.

[@Xiy114]

Lucas came along at the right time, for many reasons.

[@JimVim]

One simple request Release the Original SW Theatre features, Add new commentaries-Black reels extended SW 1977 work print. The Market is there and Disney can reap in millions. The INT fans will Love this-Its long overdue.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Exactly.

[@rayname908]

I like the redone version of THX-1138 because the original is cheap and not beloved. I hate Return of the Jedi & Star Wars special editions. Bad CGI and awful music destroy classic films. Empire is less harmed by wampa and cgi cloud city but color directing it too blue dulls the beauty of the original.

[@fredricclack7137]

☘️ IEST! QT!! Steven!

[@voltijuice8576]

I haven't seen the Star Wars SEs, but I do like the THX DC. No, the changes were not necessary. They don't add much for me, but don't detract either. The updated shots are well-considered and well-executed. Having only seen the DC on DVD might have drawn less attention to the differences than watching on Blu-Ray. One of my first DVD buys ever was a bootleg from the THX 1138 laserdisc, which I love but that wasn't a great print. So much of the amazing ambience of THX comes from the sound environments created by Walter Murch! He also worked with Coppola on _The Conversation,_ both are great 70s movies for audio geeks.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

The Conversation is excellent!

[@matthewgaudet4064]

You also forgot to mention the altered Young Indiana Jones the DVD isn't the version that aired. Hardly matters now because it can't be canon with the events in Dial of Destiny. Indy doesn't have a daughter or grandchildren.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

I mean does anybody really consider Dial of Destiny to be canon???

[@voltijuice8576]

All canon is headcanon!

[@matthewgaudet4064]

@@BraveBladeProductions , i'd love if Lucas came straight out and said Disney Star Wars was not canon, he isn't going to do that as a shareholder.

[@matthewgaudet4064]

There is also the 1978 directors cut of American Graffiti with dolby stereo and all the cut scenes put back, and the 1978 directors Cut of THX with the cut scenes. When Star Wars was the biggest film ever his original intended cut was released so why years later he did cgi versions? At least with Graffiti in 1998 it was just a cgi added Sunset. THX was destroyed. In the DVD release so called directors cut.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

True.

[@fredricclack7137]

THX BEST 📽️ 🚫 🎥

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Yep.

[@bridge2space]

George Lucas is as awful as he is cool and by that, I mean he’s got 3 groundbreaking films in Star Wars, 3 fantastic Indiana Jones films and then a whole garbage dump of terrible movies and misc.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

We all have good and bad days.

[@jesustovar2549]

Steven Spielberg directed Indiana Jones, and while the stories were ideas by George Lucas, they were adapted by other writers, Lucas was only the creator and producer.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

Star Wars and THX-1138 are pure masterpieces, marvelous works of art, the best, the greatest movies of all time, a visionary work by George Lucas that resonates with human history, the first 6 movies in the Star Wars saga are pure masterpieces that will never be equaled, that have built a gigantic expanded universe of infinite possibilities, the exploration of new worlds and a universe much more open to the world that makes you want to travel, George Lucas perfected every detail of the Star Wars saga, building and shaping his universe. A true pioneer and perfectionist, he's one of the greatest directors in the film history.

[@klstay]

If only his multiverse sized ego were accompanied by comparably wide & deep filmmaking mojo and large gas tank to fuel it. Alas, that tank ran dry in '77, but at least at that time his ego was still in its youth so he was willing to come up with some great stories and let others screenwrite and direct. (Imagine if Return had also gotten such consideration...) Technical credit for all he has pioneered there, but he has not belonged in a director's screenwriter's chair in a LONG time and his "fixes" to these films are universally bad and unnecessary.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Yep.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@klstay]

@@natalieportmanfan1817 🤣part of me is sure you are joking, but maybe not? Props to both for some technical achievements and a number of interesting stories. Neither are remotely in the same league as Orson Welles, Alfred Hitchcock, Ridley Scott, Denis Villeneuve, Christopher Nolan, M. Night Shyamalan, Quentin Tarantino, Roman Polanski, David Lynch, Francis Ford Coppola, Coen brothers, Stanley Kubrick, or Martin Scorsese to name a fair few actual Masters.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

​@@klstay George Lucas, James Cameron and Steven are the greatest technological directors and precursors in the film history. They are complete artists, not only great storytellers, with fabulous, expanded universes and a huge number of iconic pop culture characters, but also great directors who use technology to create new worlds, new peoples, new planets, new civilizations, new technologies, create new environments, expand their universes, they have a true vision of their work, they have revolutionized the advance of digital technology in the film history, they have revolutionized the way films are created, they have revolutionized special effects, computer editing, they have created Star Wars and Avatar, gigantic, extremely rich, expanded universes with infinite possibilities for exploration and travel, and they're true perfectionists who have perfected their work, they've devoted their entire lives to Star Wars and Avatar, they're the kings of sci-fi, they're the masters, the greatest directors in the film history. Ridley Scott ? Prometheus and especially Alien Covenant proved that Ridley Scott knows nothing about his own work. Denis Villeneuve ? If you like boring, soporific films like death. Christopher Nolan ? If you like boring, pretentious films that think they're smarter than they are. Sorry bro but no other director comes close to matching George Lucas, James Cameron and Steven Spielberg.

[@klstay]

@@natalieportmanfan1817 wow, seems you actually are serious. Cool. You do you and enjoy the movies you like and I will do the same. All 3 made tons of well deserved money for their blockbusters so I am sure they do not care either way.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

THX-1138 Director's Cut is a masterpiece. It's the version that most closely corresponds to the dystopian future George Lucas intended. It's the definitive version, as intended by George Lucas, and clarifies and makes clearer the elements of the plot.

[@innercynic2784]

Yeah? Until he decides to do it again.

[@fredricclack7137]

🤔 🕳️ 🎯 Was Emptiness?!

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas didn't destroy anything, on the contrary, the original THX-1138 cut released in 1971 was a box-office flop, Warner cut it and nobody understood the film. George Lucas's Director's Cut only improved the film and gave it a whole new shape, one more in keeping with his vision. The mindlock scene in particular is made more comprehensible and the dystopian world building is made more interesting. A dystopian sci-fi masterpiece 🌟♥️🔥 A timeless masterpiece 🌟♥️ THX-1138 and the Star Wars movies are timeless, legendary masterpieces of visionary science fiction, the greatest movies of all time 💖🎉

[@innercynic2784]

You must be an AI bit because you're spamming your comments everywhere.

[@Fzane-mn8fh]

Lucas is NOT one of the greatest directors. He had had 3 good films (his first 3) before a became Lucas the businessman and not Lucas the artist. Compare his filmography to his peers (Spielberg, Coppola, Scorsese, and DePalma (who is hit and miss as well) and Lucas doesn’t compare. Even the best Star Wars movie (Empire) he didn’t even direct. Great idea man? Yes! But not director.

[@Fzane-mn8fh]

@Voltar butthurt much? Go play with your action figures.

[@Fzane-mn8fh]

@Voltar no that was a butthurt response. Heaven forbid anybody voice their opinion about your beloved Lucas. Btw many acclaimed directors have said the same about Lucas, so you probably should go “correct” them too lol. Get over yourself.

[@Fzane-mn8fh]

@Voltar Lucas is a idea man, that’s doesn’t make him a great director. The original Star Wars trilogy, as well as most of his early movies are very good. However, that because Lucas had a team to give him input and it was a large cast and large set of staff that worked together to make it great. The prequels I are the first films he had total control and surround himself around “yes” men. And the results speak for themselves, not good. Coppola said it best George is a victim of his own success. He could have been great. Let me know when you correct him too.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas directed THX 1138 and the Star Wars movies, which are pure masterpieces, the best movies of all time, timeless wonders, the visionary work of George Lucas, legendary works that resonate with human history.

[@fredricclack7137]

hav OG!& Cocoon 😊

[@Miniweet9167]

Christ stop whining. It’s not your movie. 8:25

[@BraveBladeProductions]

I have my rights.

[@Miniweet9167]

@@BraveBladeProductions Who the hell cares?

[@jeanmarc0]

The director's cut is definitely the best version of the film.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

It looks nice for sure.

[@patriotsman6511]

Cgi is awful

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Only when it's done poorly.

[@buffstraw2969]

It took a while for George Lucas to find his ideal audience. THX 1138 was made for: adults. It flopped. American Graffiti was made for: teenagers. It was a success. Star Wars was made for: children. Highest grossing movie of all time.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Star Wars was made for children, but ended up appealing to everybody.

[@buffstraw2969]

@@BraveBladeProductions "but ended up appealing to everybody." Except for actual science fiction readers, who balked at the total lack of originality.

[@buffstraw2969]

@@BraveBladeProductions Also, if you're going to call it "science fiction," shouldn't it have at least a little bit of science in it? Where's the science in Star Wars?

[@philipcao1275]

George Lucas has the right to change his movies for sure. But he has no right forcing people into only watching the version he likes better. Making the original theatrical versions of his altered movies commercially unavailable means that less people will see the actual movies that changed film history, and in a way, it is him basically saying: -This is the version I prefer, so you will either watch this or not watch it at all! He can change his movie how ever he wants to, but he has to respect the fans of his movies enough to choose for themselves. Because it’s those fans that are in large part responsible for his success in the first place. It’s also unfair against future generations who might want to experience the true versions of these movies, but can’t. Re releasing the original Star Wars trilogy for example over and over again but with new special editions, while the theatrical versions are bound to old Vhs tapes and etc. Is actually kind of like erasing history. If I recall correctly, when they started re releasing old classic black and white movies, but in color, George expressed concern, stating that those movies in their original black and white forms represent the time and era from wich they from. Updating them for the sake of making them more watchable or friendly to contemporary audiences robbes people from experiencing these black and white movies from what they are, old black and white movies. Isn’t this kind of what Lucas has been doing with his special editions as well? Although these are his movies (or was) and has the right to do with them as he pleases, he also has to realize that his creations have taken on a life of there own. They have become a part of history and culture. Generations of dedicater fans grew up with them. He has to, respect the historical and cultural significance of his own work. Wich he ironically, as their creator. Doesnt.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@philipcao1275]

@@natalieportmanfan1817 Yeah, but I'm not denying any of this necessarely. What I mean is that Not giving fans the choice is the problem.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

@@philipcao1275 I found a laserdisc transfer with the theatrical cut ☺️ I'm hoping for an HD or 4K remaster, but I have the director's cut blu-ray, which is still the best, most accomplished cut, the one that best represents George Lucas's vision. Comparing cuts is always interesting. I have the VHS just in case. The same for Star Wars (I, IV, V, VI) with the theatrical cuts, and the DVDs of episodes II and III.

[@VirtualSG]

THX 1138 is a mashup of dystopian concepts awash in wonderful compositions and believable characters. It was a product of its time until the new version diluted the raw power with ... some stuff. The problem in the first place is any new footage - forget the CGI. What purpose do these darn changes serve. I would argue none. The new versions of SW are the same kettle of fish. The best way to watch the original Star Wars movie is one of those 16 mm prints floating around. That version is what you would have seen circa 1977. Gritty, dark, downright spooky. I rank THX 1138 as one of the finest films of its genre while the original STAR WARS movie still reigns THEEE greatest action adventure movie man-kind is even capable of producing. Here is the proof, if you're interested. kzbin.info/aero/PLwfxx_7ZXUJgnss333QGbhsLwrxW6L5C0&si=HmVLBvNCNOsqmhoC

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Interesting take.

[@TimButt2]

I first saw THX about 20-years ago. Took me a while to get my hands on it, but was able to do so thanks to Netflix DVD plan in early 2000s. Blockbuster and the other rental shops never had a copy. I watched both the theatrical and Director's Cut because when I bought it on DVD I bought the Director's Cut. I started to just live with the CGI additions and changes. I recognize them for what they are and just know that I'm not seeing the movie as it was in 1971. Do I like the CGI changes? Not really. They barely add much. But for a study of Lucas and his early work it's sufficient enough to see where he began. I studied his student short when in high school, and could never come close to matching that while in film school. Truly proving Lucas was something special. Even Spielberg has stated he felt jealous of Lucas for his student short. Now, arguably, Spielberg is the better director but, that is a statement proving what Lucas did with that student short. Lucas tinkered. And, ironically so did I. The short I made in 2004 in high school I went back and added muzzle flashes to later after college because I could. I did it in a way that looked like they would have in 2004 since I technically could have done it in 2004, but didn't have the knowledge yet. Still, it was a Lucas moment for myself and my own work. Making any project I always want to tinker and improve it. So I better understand Lucas's motivations. Does it always work for Lucas's films? That's debatable. However, as a filmmaker I understand.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Not everybody likes it, but Lucas has every right to change his films in any way he sees fit.

[@natalieportmanfan1817]

George Lucas and James Cameron are the Masters, they are the greatest filmmakers of all time, true visionaries, precursors and pioneers of new technologies, digital, special effects, advanced computer editing, who use cutting-edge technologies to create new worlds, new fabulous universes, new peoples, They're the best, the greatest directors in the film history, the great storytellers and creators of stunning universes, of countless iconic characters from the history of pop culture, and they're true perfectionists who have devoted their lives to their work, whether it's Star Wars or Avatar, and they polish every detail of their works.

[@c.f.mixolydian8926]

There’s nothing wrong with “continuing to work on his movies”, but I don’t understand why he can’t just be like Francis Ford Coppola and include the unaltered versions alongside the new cuts. I would fork out extra cash just to have both. American Graffiti’s 50th anniversary was completely botched, now film fans will need a “4K73”.

[@BraveBladeProductions]

Lucas certainly loves doing his best to re-write history.