George Monbiot EXPOSES Keir Starmer's Hollow Victory

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[@desmondpowell68]

@@DoubleDownNews you say we have a problem with oligarchy..please explain how we solve it...and please explain how the MSM throws around the word far right and people don't believe it...yet you do the same

[@ZombielandVariants]

@DoubleDownNews I don't vote ❎ because it's all rigged/scripted... since Boris till now we over here have called them & have been right the last 4 times (Boris, liz truss, rishi sunak) via innerstanding the Jesuit Order script by the numbers 🔤 🔢 facts 💯... I put out a vid or LIVE STREAM a month ago showing or telling (sometimes i do RadioCast with only talking) you Labour Keir Starmer will win... The jesuits control all sides of the same bird, it's not Hamas vs Israel lol the jesuits controls both sides like politics & media, news etc Voting is just to give consent to being ruled over... 🤷🏾‍♂️ ... example of the script code the Jesuit Order use which we over here have discovered for the past 10+ & still going.... Boris Johnson 2019 came in 158wks after (creature-features) Theresa May, Freemasonry = 158, Boris Johnson = 158 The Tories won via 47 seats, The Tories = 47, Agent = 47 Authority = 47, Government = 47, President = 47, Whitehouse = 47, News = 47, Republican = 47, Democrats = 47... Again... Knowing this matrix script code we can use it at times to see around corners & call things before the Masonic-Media puts out. Facts 💯 EVERY WOMAN MAN & CHILD SHOULD KNOW THIS SIMPLE TO LEARN GAME CHANGER INFO INSTANTLY & what it entails 🤷🏾‍♂️ 🔴🤷🏾‍♂️🔵 #followthewhiterabbit 🐰 🕳 🔤 🔢 🕵🏾‍♂️

[@MattST69]

No thanks, I am averse to dangerous socialist claptrap

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

Ironically Starmer should be thanking Nigel Farage for his overwhelming victory. George is right. Corbyn in 2019 won more votes than Starmer did in 2024. Corbyn had 40+% of the vote in 2019 and LOST, while Starmer had barely 34% and won 411 seats and 170 majority. Reform won the election for Starmer, by depriving the Tories of a large chunk of their votes, enabling Labour to pull ahead. Farage has now declared he will go after Labour. Reform is in second place in a lot of red wall 🧱 seats. If Starmer fails to deliver, then Reform will be in a VERY strong position next time round. For anybody who thinks that Farage is an unimaginable joke prospect for PM, I have two words : Liz Truss.

[@kinderscout7000]

Labour are now relying on their bedrock of supporters. Those who would vote Labour no matter what. If you have voted Labour all your life, you're one of the politically ignorant, and unable to change. I have known many of these people and most don't even really know what they're voting for. In Scotland, Wales and England. There's also the fact that the Tories have been importing millions of new pro immigration Labour supporters.

[@DD-jm5ug]

Best thing ì ever did was to stop watching any mainstream TV. I refuse to pay for a TV licence. Utter rubbish.

[@dylanapivor3743]

Ditto

[@knottyinks1]

👍 yep

[@MigData]

Same.

[@Simon-xc6iy]

Oh yes​@@dylanapivor3743

[@JulieMalone-oy1ll]

Agreed

[@Metaworldwide]

If our vote matters... They wouldn't let us vote.

[@irfymx6703]

100%

[@stephenboyd4934]

That's why I don't even register for my vote as I won't vote for my slavery

[@leskuzyk2425]

A widespread disillusionment with politics ... disgust actually ... over here in Canada too. Tear down oligarchic power.

[@zeeone4492]

Yeah give back the land to the original Canadians

[@davestevenson9080]

@@zeeone4492 would you support the same in england, give the land back to the english?

[@kelvinpell4571]

But according to this piece, you are now "far right" if you do so!

[@uniquevideosUk]

​​​@@zeeone4492 Give bk all the aid to the Canadian tax payer first! That helped ungrateful ppl like yourself.

[@uniquevideosUk]

​​@@kelvinpell4571 Who care about labels anymore in this day & age, all they do is call ppl names if they disagree! Most are the problem themselves, look at France for one, that's not the right, that's the left who've just won destroying the country. 🙈

[@johnkelly3886]

Ban all private financing of political parties and politicians.

[@paulmcgrath6741]

Yes!

[@nightowl7459]

@JohnKelly I've been saying this for quite a while, it's the only way forward.

[@oskadavid2964]

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR SUPPORTING ISRAEL AND LETTING THEM RULE YOUR COUNTRY.

[@JamesYeoman-ww6se]

This guy is a prime example of why labour is getting less votes. I live in the north of England and people have begun to realise that labour doesn't represent the working class. Calling us "far right" isn't going to win us back. I'll never vote for Labour or Tories again. We need new parties.

[@jamesprice4647]

But not fascists.

[@californiadreamin8423]

There are no working class dummy.

[@paulcumiskey8647]

​@jamesprice4647 I'm guessing you are referring to Reform in your comment. In your opinion, what makes them fascist? There's no right or wrong answer, and I'm not trying to argue with you. I'd like your honest opinion.

[@monkmonkmonk]

@@jamesprice4647Hear, hear!

[@KT-nu2zt]

How about the Workers Party? I was surprised so many still voted for Labour.

[@ruthguthrie1099]

According to a Savanta poll a high percentage of people who voted Labour in Scotland did so to kick Tory out rather than voting the actual party.

[@wanderingtravellerAB99]

According to almost every poll in almost every election ever, this is almost always the case.

[@globalist1990]

The biggest problem with first past the post. You have to vote strategically.

[@juliewake4585]

I’m pretty sure that the case throughout the uk.

[@bernieburrows3731]

I'm pretty sure that was the same in England Ruth

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

Don't listen to that spin mate, that's only the SNP line they are saying to save their independence idea. Unless you ask everyone who voted and why will you ever have the answer to any of those questions.

[@rushshukla4636]

The banksters are still running the show that's why we are stuck with the blues and reds = no change.

[@jefb2361]

Totally agree, but the masses are being slowly awakened to the decades long con. Internet the great revealer, the elites days are numbered.

[@publicpm8809]

But still people think voting for this or that will change anything

[@ReapermanUK]

and remember fartrage was/is a B(W)anker, now just a putin puppet

[@kriegfaust]

@@publicpm8809 Haha agreed, vote harder than you've ever voted before and everything will be ok!. Meanwhile........ the tax man goes untouched for another 5 years! Genius system if you are on the right side of it, sadly we aint!.

[@KT-nu2zt]

@@publicpm8809 IF.....there were a huge voter turnout for parties other than the unified three then maybe, just maybe, a meaningful and lasting difference would be made.

[@basfinnis]

I seem to remember Monbiot joining in on the smears against Corbyn! 🤔

[@TheMdog8]

I think it was more that he just didn't vocally support him, which was very dissappointing... but then look at what Gary Young said about the whole thing - it made him leave journalism.

[@Fenman-cz8yk]

The Corbyn Labour party didn’t implode -it was actively dismantled by the media and from within by fifth-columnists. You were among the back-stabbers.

[@Cactuspractice12]

Monbiot on Corbyn === Starmer on Gaza

[@NeilBarratt]

IMO for decades he's been spot on about agricultural practices, but lately he's joined the man made weather change band wagon. Eventually he will be replaced by someone younger, cheaper, and more diverse. I'm sure he's aware of that.

[@johnhanson5943]

Monbiot is the most vile disingenuous face of Big Brother Oligarchy which he pretends to oppose. He is a core member of the ‘cult’. Dystopia via a different / same flavour. Political Green isn’t ’Green’. Ex member of Greenpeace here.

[@gillb9222]

I agree. The Tories were voted out rather than Labour being voted in. The number of people who just didnt vote at all shows how broken the UK is

[@swojnowski453]

those who did not vote decided democracy, no matter who wins, do not deliver for them. why vote then? Systems die by not being maintained, not voting is part of that. More and more people stop caring about the system here, so it will die. There is no way out of it because the UK is economically broke. Only by pumping money into people's needs democracy can be maintained, we can't afford it here ... unless we take care of our tax heavens, the rich, uncollected taxes, tax breaks etc. Democracy in the UK is on the ropes, and fire sale over the last 40 years is to blame for the state of affairs.

[@dam8087]

Broken by selfish, ignorant, bigoted assholes who voted for the Tories and 14 years of destruction

[@gillb9222]

@swojnowski453 I agree with you. Eventually, if voter numbers continue to fall, they will have to accept that something is wrong with the system and do something. Unfortunately, rather than fixing what is wrong they will probably just make voting compulsory. At the moment I don't think they are bothered. I'm sure Starmer is loving his 'landslide' win and they seem to have no problem with the fact that they won with less votes this time than they had in 2019 which they say was Labour's worst defeat because it was under Corbyn. It is funny that suddenly the people shouting for PR are the parties that have always been against it in the past

[@oskadavid2964]

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR SUPPORTING ISRAEL AND LETTING THEM RULE YOUR COUNTRY.

[@michaelellis7326]

The answer to the problem is the REFORM Party !!

[@DG_musician]

Shame Monbiot was too scared of losing his Guardian column to say any of this in 2019.

[@4imagesmore]

Indeed. Bit of a weathervane eh?

[@HaarisKadri-re6ig]

No he was a supporter of corbyn he is not fickle like u suggest look again at his op eds he has done in the guardian you will see his narrative stays the same

[@gillcorless5273]

I think George is admitting he was wrong previously, which I respect. I would dearly, dearly love to see a U-turn sooner rather than later on Starmer's planned neo-liberal pro-Thatcherism agenda, but this is a man who never apologises and never admits he was wrong, so it's very probably not going to change.

[@jedde-wiltonholmes3549]

Indeed, he's a total disgrace total hypercrit...

[@TheQuixoticRambler]

I was gonna say, don't remember him speaking up for Corbyn...or Assange

[@rogerdeacon5878]

Sunak and Starmer...might as well make Schwab pm......its a joke...but its not funny by any means at all

[@paulwilliams5013]

..i'm sure the WEF etc. want 'limp wristed' / useless 'leaders' in the west.

[@jazminew38]

2 cheeks of the same backside!

[@stephanguitar9778]

Schwab 😂😂 If you believe in James bond villains, you've gone down the right-wing rabbit hole. Farage, Trump and Putin are you real threat.

[@ghias-dc5hw]

@rogerdeacon5878 As per George Galloway, Sunak and Starmer are the TWO sides of the same rear-end ...

[@ReapermanUK]

@@xonerate371 putin backed fartrage to damage europe with brexshit, so no putin bot we do not want a fascist backed putin puppet

[@mrmolloy]

Brits not voting and turning up is shocking… they sit around complaining then don’t vote. People the world over including women with the suffragettes fought for a vote now people aren’t turning up! Media also has such a terrible approach to support so the people need to step it up and make votes for change and unseat these criminals

[@yeboi5478]

People have a right to abstain. If you don't have any confidence in any of the party options presented to you then you should not vote. Tactical voting is exactly what has created the two party state and such behaviour ultimately entropies to a two party state. This is why lib Dems and reform have gained so much traction, because they present the third "popular" option. Then a new paradigm arises. Until voters can make educated decisions and vote based on researching a party with leadership they can confide in, then I will not vote. Democracy as we have it today is not democracy, if anything a pantomime, or a disorganised rabble. Much a bastardisation of the original Athenian concept. I would have more confidence in a more elitist system, say only being allowed to vote if you can research a topic and write a single page about it would be a start. Then again the human factor always means civilised societies never work as intended. But until we stop playing children's games I won't take part in it

[@kriegfaust]

Non of those people died so we could play at being wards in a rigged game so no I don't agree with you, if a choice between Stalin or Hitler makes me a twunt for not playing then so be it. Taxes would be a much better way to make our voices heard on en-masse not an X on a 1 horse race betting slip every 5 years. Democracy yeah riiight!.

[@JamesGale1]

@@yeboi5478 "If you don't have any confidence in any of the party options presented to you then you should not vote" - NO! Absolutely NO! You SHOULD vote - POSITIVELY! - for 'NONE OF THE ABOVE'. Such votes have to be reported and if that was widespread enough the 'winner' would have zero legitimacy, which is, in most cases it seems, exactly what they deserve.

[@financecrypto7285]

There is no one to vote for. We saw during Brexit how many of them are all the same. We need a real upheaval, not controlled opposition.

[@4R53Hole]

@@yeboi5478 Missed opportunity to make somebody look at a drawing of a penis.

[@paulsmith2855]

Life long labour supporter, im 62 years of age, i voted Green for the first time..

[@geoffreynolds8835]

Thank you. Me the same. They've lost it.

[@robeagleR]

I went for Lib Dem's, but I'll likely go greens next time. (reason being I expected a tory protest vote to LD here, it was actually better to vote green as it turned out, likely due to some specific local issues that I hadn't yet heard about.)

[@rachelbarlow9382]

@@geoffreynolds8835 I voted Green too - Starmer has changed the Labour Party into the Tory Party-lite.

[@memoman1962]

What a shame.

[@nuaimahmed7620]

Current electoral system in UK is a fix for the two main parties. There is no democracy when 34% of the vote share results in 65% of the MPs, a complete joke!

[@postmanlondon]

People are fed up with endless wars in particular in Gaza , I am not Muslim or particularly religious and I do not wish to be but I despair at the brutality and genocide in Gaza. With the 20000 and rising deaths of women and children in Gaza, anybody that is not morally bankrupt would object to this. I didn’t think I would live to see children being starved and operated on without anaesthetic screaming. It will echo in my thoughts for ever!

[@sakha2349]

You don't have to be muslim to despair about the genocide..

[@Ruda-n4h]

@@sakha2349 There is no genocide anymore than there was in 1944, when the Allies were causing destruction to Berlin and a lot of people were getting killed in the other war against the other Nazis.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

🔎🎻

[@tjonline77]

You don't have to be a Muslim or religious to feel for the people of Palestine. You just need to be a human being with feelings and emotions for other human beings. You need to understand what is right and wrong, stand up against injustice and oppression.

[@postmanlondon]

@@tjonline77 you are preaching to the converted!

[@delbhoy5675]

Hate to admit that Nadine Dorries was right when she said, if Labour had a good leader the Tories would have been lucky to get 50 seats.

[@michellerice485]

Nadine Dorris went to a certain island on a certain plane 😮

[@arghjayem]

Sort of….what she probably meant was if Labour had a leader who didn’t have everyone and their mother including the media and members of the Labour Party plotting against Labour the Tories would have been lucky to get 50 seats. Peter Mandalson outright told people in interviews not to vote Labour “because Corbyn”. This was a major Labour Party figure who’d served as Secretary of State under Gordon Brown saying don’t vote Labour! If Starmer had as much working against him as Corbyn had in 2019, the result would’ve been quite different.

[@marumaru6084]

They didnt push any policies at all.

[@lost_boy]

but Labour don't have a good leader.

[@stevebrooks9119]

Using a quote from Mad Nad Dorries to support your position reeks of desperation and the screech of barrel bottoms being scraped...Daily Express reference next...??

[@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA]

House of cards.

[@4R53Hole]

Or is it sharts?

[@christinaheins407]

Workers Party offered excellent policies on NHS, Education etc and Galloway has been trying to get justice for Palestinians for 50yrs. Independents such as Andrew Feinstein, Craig Murray deserved to be elected too. Voters are largely so uninformed and misinformed.

[@powderandpaint14]

Shame he is homophobic and a transphobe. I could never er support him or his party for that reason.

[@minekara6407]

Wholly agree

[@Majickkkk]

Truer words were never spoken.

[@Universalwisdomknowledge]

We live in a troubled, uncertain and dangerous world. Processes are taking place, the consequences are hard to see. The old doesn't apply, we don't trust the present and we fear the future. We are inundated with information and even more misinformation as a tool of massive and pervasive manipulation One of the key reasons for this state of affairs is the fact that the world is largely controlled by psychopaths.

[@AlisonHersey-bi2bg]

💯👍

[@gordontickle1673]

Hello George, please tell me where you stand on a guy or Gal leaving school at 15 working all their lives and contributing retiring overseas to have their state pension frozen at the time of retirement until death! Yet we do not call upon the health service, nor the social services, no meals on wheels no bus passes no home help, ergo we should get more not less! Tell me honestly where you stand on this travesty of justice?

[@jelycat7421]

You do know that pensions are a welfare payment, made out of taxes paid in by working people. The same pot that all benefits are paid out of. Just remember that.

[@crayontom9687]

Another benefit of Brexit?

[@Ruda-n4h]

Monbiot hasn't a clue - 'the BBC created Farage'. They hate him.

[@juliewake4585]

It’s always good to hear what you have to say George. I seem to remember, however, that your views on JC weren’t terribly good.

[@4imagesmore]

Yeah..Monbiot did an Owen Jones. And is he still pro-NATO and the war in Ukraine?

[@firestarter1888]

I won't vote until the whole system is completely changed. Voting is complicity. I have had enough of coporate money, foreign lobbies.

[@piccalillipit9211]

wow you are clever.

[@satyasyasatyasya5746]

Not voting, is complicity. Vote if not so your choice will win, but as harm reduction, support for new and smaller parties etc. Not voting is consent to decline.

[@edwardbernthal160]

@@piccalillipit9211 not clever, bone idle and just sitting back waiting for somebody to fix his problems with the present voting system.

[@firestarter1888]

@@satyasyasatyasya5746 I will vote for system change. I can't vote for a corrupt and henious system. If nobody voted then it would no cofidence and drastoc change would be needed.

[@rjung_ch]

@@satyasyasatyasya5746 spot on!

[@mikeoglen6848]

What is "disgraceful" about wanting to have a secure national border?

[@kaseycornflakes1234]

The disgrace, apparently, is that national sovereignty is dead and Globalism reigns. Tell that to the sports world, where several times a year supporters are madly waving their national flag in some stadium around the world. Why aren`t the Globalists speaking out against this `madness`, why aren`t Globalists trying to stop this terrible nationalistic support for various sporting events. Hypocrites! Hypocrites! They only go after what they know they can change - they do not want to chance a real `out and out` fight with `the peasants`!

[@BonusHole]

Nothing wrong with that - as long as it's Ukraine's border... we'll fund nazis protecting their border before we'd fund protecting our own. Pawns.

[@paul8972]

Exactly

[@sctrh2]

You missed the point. No one is saying you shouldn't have secure borders, but when you overinflate the blame game onto people without the power and deliberately ignore holding those in power to the fire to create cultural division, as Garage does, that is disgraceful. It's fascism. The reason there are so many issues in UK is because of austerity, not because of the people on the boats. The housing issue is due to government policy deliberately keeping stocks low (not investing in building houses) to inflate property prices through too much demand on a low resource. It's not the fault of immigrants. No GP/dentist appointments is through lack of government investment, not because there's "too many people". It's all rules by wall street. They have money for war, so it's utter horse that there's not enough money. It's a political decision not to invest so that there will be more demand for corporatization. That we've been hijacked by the USA is a bigger concern than what Garage bangs on about, but he's working for them, and it's easier to see brown people in Joe Blogg's everyday life than white men in suits F-ing up our lives from behind a computer screen.

[@philipvanbergen3924]

Nothing. It's the means that are disgusting.

[@nb9797]

We need PR, FPTP is just a veneer of democracy... it concentrates power between 2 parties, and therefore makes it easier to buy. Democratising power is what a... err... Democracy should be doing.

[@ady9830]

At about 4.40 Monbiot intimates that parties are tryng to please the bosses AND the workers at the same time? Que? Who exactly has been trying to "please" ANY workers, anywhere?

[@Carlin2810]

Because he's an establishment lacky thats why.

[@beckyboop3517]

He meant please the workers with words, not actions which is what they do. They have been bought and Westminster is a cul. We've had a changing of the guards which still protects the same status quo and that has been going on since Thatcher, she started the whole downfall with every government since playing their role in it. We have feck all left and just a consumer economy. We do however spend 12k every minute on war = death and utter misery. A new real left movement is badly needed here.

[@sbam3139]

First Past The post politics is creaking ...desperately needs a reset

[@keithp6699]

Before it's too late

[@1292liam]

so let in Reform, if you get rid of it. you want that?

[@studyonline4763]

India copied it--we suffer as well

[@sbam3139]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iobEZoqugt6JrNksi=Fk2rCdTegQY0xL2A

[@michaelellis7326]

When will it be changed ???????

[@deneosan]

Brilliantly explained there ,wow. I feel he’s just explained 45 years of my life in ten minutes. Seeing all this play out first hand with Thatcher and the squashing of the miners in the 80s plus all those YTS schemes . Tories have always been for the most powerful and wealthy of society. Think we’ve struggled enough now.

[@AliceWatts-d3v]

Absolutely agree

[@alanstewart7802]

If you want an excellent account of why we are where we are politically since Thatcher, I highly recommend Monbiot's latest book - "The Invisible Doctrine".

[@Ruda-n4h]

The Conservatives might think that Britain is a shop up for sale to the highest bidder but Labour thinks that Britain is a landing strip and charity for everyone.

[@baronburch6702]

The Electoral Reform Society revels that 70% of votes do not count. Until FPTP is replaced with proportional representation, Until all parties must be represented in cabinet, until the HOL is replaced with a representative house, until then nothing will improve. Switzerland is the model we should be learning from.

[@alishanty]

I know people who are celebrating that the ‘Tories are out’, what they don’t seem to understand is they are out in name only and nothing will change with this new government.

[@yourmother2739]

except for the new influx of the new independents and greens

[@janerainbow22]

Absolutely. The ballot box is secondary to Rupert Murdock and his cronies when it comes to choosing the government. When Laura Kuenssberg asked why the people can't be left to make up their mind, Ash Sarkar pointed out that that's not possible when the mainstream media constantly lie to the public. All information about the political choices comes through media, so not only is telling the truth important, but platforming, funding, lobbying and choice of content essential. I think it goes to prove that social media can have an impact against the oligarch owned press. I don't know if it's true, but I heard Nigel Farrage got more funding for Reform in his campaign than the Tories. It shows how well the Greens did on their limited funding, targeting 4 seats and winning all of them and coming 2nd in another 47 seats. I also noticed that Cruella was one of the few Tories to slightly increase her majority and that Reform did not put up a candidate in her constituency. Since this scheming, self serving politician has a history of cutting deals with an eye on her career and power then I smell a rotten deal in the pipeline.

[@stevetobin7495]

I'm sick of this incongruent term "far right" - it's arbitrary and misleading

[@swojnowski453]

far right means those who disagree with the current system and elites that hold it. Those are people who are outside of the circle, this group is growing and they will shrink the shrinking elite circle. Once they have done they will chose new elites and the cycle will repeat itself ... unless they decide to defend their spoils not in a general election but through force, then you have authoritarianism. The thing is that among those who have been disfranchised are many who would like to be the last leader chosen by people, they are Trumps, Putins, Xis, Orbans or our age ...

[@crayontom9687]

Not really. Those who see the world through identity politics with a bias for white nationalism are generally far right. That’s what Farage’s supporters are. Sadly he’s just using you for his own self advancement though and doesn’t actually believe anything

[@antispindr8613]

Well, well, it seems that some people (and paid trolls) cannot stand the truth.

[@nightowl7459]

​@@antispindr8613Well, well, you really covered yourself there, people are then you added to paid troll platitude, you really believe that a paid troll would be on here 🤔😂🤣 it's most unlikely it would waste its time on a insignificant little channel before a general election, it definitely wouldn't waste its time after a general election.

[@nightowl7459]

​@mikesmith1485They also get to know who the paid trolls are.

[@SillyEngineer]

Heard a man from Liverpool few days ago in a YT video say his opinion about migration and he said "the real enemy comes in Yachts not small boats", enough said.

[@andybray9791]

Media moguls probably have multiple children by multiple partners as with Celebs etc. Migrants might teach us better family values than ours normally.

[@annmowatt7547]

If only Corbyn had been given a chance to save Britain. You are right: "What the country needs to lead a decent life." Blair killed socialism.

[@thetruth-loveitorhateit7999]

100% correct.

[@MB10-66]

I really wish people would stop saying “Far Right”.

[@ReapermanUK]

do you prefer facist nazis?

[@LUV733]

Those who opposed the " leftist" " progressive" destructive ideologies are NOT " far right" , but have been "right so far" about the totalitarian and undemocratic policies of both Labour & Tory puppets of the World Economic Forum and World Health Organisation. There's no "sigh of relief" here- Starmer will be pushing for our digital & economic slavery harder than Johnson & Sunak ever did! He's publicly admitted that he's more committed to Davos than Westminster!

[@crayontom9687]

Why? If it’s true, which it is, you should wear it as a badge of honour. Don’t be afraid to show people who you really are

[@crimsonshinobi5281]

@@crayontom9687 But it's not true, Reform UK is mostly common sense policies (I don't agree with everything) that appeals to centre-right people. We're not Nazis for crying out loud.

[@SimonWallwork]

George Monbiot. WRONG on Gaza, WRONG on everything. "Progressive" these days means far left.

[@juanpablojones]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marianhunt8899]

No, it's liberalism which is nearly always anti worker. The old left fought very hard for workers and for them to be paid a fair wage which entitled them to the basics of life such as a little home, food, energy and healthcare. Liberals and progressives claim to care about workers, they don't. The neocons and neolibs serve the Oligharch class and play the 'divide and conquer' game to split the population with all their identity and culture wars. Neither care about ordinary people.

[@Ruda-n4h]

How does this bloke get air time?

[@andybray9791]

1960s/70s normalised predators and communists.

[@teatotal8079]

Not really but you don't understand progresive,but I am not surprised if you don't understand right or wrong. 😁

[@alissonburgers5329]

"no future at all in centrism"

[@odinallfarther6038]

So called centrism is firmly on the right as is the Overton window .

[@aljawad]

In short: eternal vigilance is the price of liberty!

[@ingridself6076]

similar to what happened in NZ. UK needs to be very careful.

[@boba2783]

This channel is going down hill rapidly

[@lervish1966]

You can't go downhill if there is no hill.

[@nightowl7459]

@boba2738 Typical far leftovers propaganda, just spewing bull shit.

[@DeadDave]

I do not consent to anything any of them have to say or do going forward. I am an independant, free, single human being and wish to remain so!

[@stevebrooks9119]

So you're giving up you're rights to welfare benefits and treatment by the NHS...No problem...

[@DeadDave]

@@stevebrooks9119 Who said I'm on benefits or use the NHS to begin with?

[@publicpm8809]

I can understand your point of view however you are not free or independent dear, you can’t even go out and do a protest freely. People have to rise and dismantle this system to get freedom.

[@DeadDave]

@@publicpm8809 So what is it you suggest, Dear? How does one dismantle a system? Inbetween hair and nail appointments?

[@Carlin2810]

@@stevebrooks9119 NHS barely functuions anymore...Infact NHS Dentists in my area are only taking migrants currently. I had to just pay 1200 pounds for dental that didnt help any....As far as im concerned the NHS can be scrapped entirely its a cess pitt ofg waste & corruption & personally I dont want to pay towards the healthcare of the likes of you.

[@rw9854]

Genuine question: By what measure or what policy would make Reform far right?

[@sam_p792]

And when has the bbc been good to him too? From everything I’ve seen they’ve been awful 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@crayontom9687]

Viewing the world through identity politics with a bias for white nationalism = far right. That’s what Reform is, just a vehicle for white nationalism

[@nicholashill9302]

People from Boston don't want to work the land and don't want people from Europe coming over here to take jobs they don't want to do, hence Tice and Farage Brexit.

[@nightowl7459]

​​@mikesmith1485The leadership debate set up and their well chosen so called impartial audience, but obviously you will still deny it, won't you? Carry on waiting.

[@nightowl7459]

@rw9854 I have a feeling you will be the one waiting for a answer for a long time.

[@Skembear000]

The evening standard erased Leanne Mohamad from the Streeting results. He won by 500 votes, but according to the standard, he had a majority of over 6,000

[@noramartin96]

She will win next time around and by then she will be an even more accompished orator.Streeting should resign having so little support from his consituents but he loves the gravy on the train too much.

[@obsolete9121]

Politics is the art of managing political dissent. It seeks to silence rather than give voice to our struggles.

[@michaelellis7326]

Foretaste of things to come !!!!

[@AliceWatts-d3v]

Well said George as ever, keep on keeping on as will all will 🇵🇸🗳️🙌

[@LeornianCyng]

33.4 % of the vote. Which means 67% did not vote for them. Kieth himself is a PM who had his majority slashed by almost 50% in his constituency.

[@Balootoyoutoo]

What has farage said that’s disgraceful?

[@fangorules6724]

He blames minorities for the woes of society, not the powers that be... He reaches out to bigoted racists who chant hatred... That's the reality.. He's a fraud... You need a genuine Reform Party led by a genuine and honest Englishman, who is nuanced, Discerning, compassionate... Vote Mark Collett as your leader....

[@Alan_Duval]

Other than the idea that NATO provoked Putin, you mean?

[@nightowl7459]

​@@Alan_DuvalHe said that about eight years ago and has since been proven correct, so you can't make a prediction?

[@Alan_Duval]

​@@nightowl7459 First, it was two years ago, so it wasn't a prediction, it was an accusation. And second, NATO's "expansion" was a direct consequence of Putin's sabre-rattling. Threatening to invade a country and then being surprised when that country moves to defend itself is exactly as dumb as it sounds. And most reasonable people wouldn't see a defensive move in response to aggressive posturing as provocative aggression.

[@nightowl7459]

@@Alan_Duval Really bright spark? Forage stood up and made a speech in the European Parliament warning what was very likely going to happen when we a MEP, he hasn't been a MEP since we left the European Union about seven years ago or more? It was a prediction, since then Johnson and Campbell have said that same about a year and a half ago, sorry for ruining your narrative.

[@timbob1627]

It is so easy to see , Weasley Wes streeting so very nearly snared by independent Leanne Mohamed 🎉🎉🎉 , she was ignored by mainstream media, castigated by Labours multi millions pound machine , yet still almost defeated the now health secretary of this government 😂😂😂

[@noramartin96]

She will win next time around

[@timbob1627]

@@noramartin96 let's all make sure she does, it was so painful to see just how. Close she came to winning against this multi million pounds machine that put everything into keeping weasel Wesley in this seat ,,,Leanne will prevail 💐💐💐

[@yourmother2739]

Good for her.

[@DorothyHarvey-hl1ve]

Thank you George I agree with your every word as always✊

[@tonymccake3057]

Mr Monbiot spot on as usual. Everything said is exactly what is wrong with the political landscape and the electoral system.

[@colinnicholas5482]

George please tell me , who is fighting digital IDs, Central Bank Digital currencies, the new WHO Pandemic Treaty? The Reform UK Party is......

[@Carlin2810]

Yeah but George supports all of that doesnt he,he's a liberal so ofcourse he does....Probably call you a conspiricy theorist for just mentioning any of those things.

[@TheMentalblockrock]

Not Monobiot who supports all these gl0b@list agendas....he is a supporter of the W€F and great re-set.....

[@4R53Hole]

Are those really the key issues that concern you? Plus are they though?

[@Carlin2810]

@@4R53Hole So the thought of unelected global elites having the ability to decide what constitues a public emergency & how a country must respond doesnt concern you? A Centralised digital currency that can be geo locked to a certain area & turned off if youre a dissident voice doesnt concern you?

[@smythharris2635]

Emily Maiitlis asked Starmer, Davos or Westminster? He repkied Davos She smiled in agreement.

[@norabarry7694]

Why is the Reform party unsavoury? There’s millions of people that support them, do you think they are all unsavoury too?

[@ReapermanUK]

it's a fascist and racist cabal backed by putin bots, very easy

[@Carlin2810]

He's a liberal ofcourse he does. Liberals hate the working class for Brexit

[@TheMentalblockrock]

Monobiot says that because he is far-left. Reform UK should have 60-80 seats.

[@juanpablojones]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@adriftinaboat3452]

@@TheMentalblockrockFar left my arse

[@antonia4722]

We need Proportional representation!! Reform are NOT far right!

[@TheMentalblockrock]

trouble is George Monbiot is a far left eco-loon. A clym@te catastrophist!!

[@Andy1805-y8w]

But not the Mixed Member Propotional, MMP, shitshow that New Zealand has.

[@dreddguy6454]

I saw Tommy Robinson on KZbin just yesterday standing up for Farrige and Reform.

[@4R53Hole]

Aren't they?

[@brimcilroy9002]

Well go on then be braver than nearly all the leftist who say farage is racist as give us an example instead of just hiding behind the word racist. ​@@4R53Hole

[@johnkelly3135]

You can tell he’s a guardian columnist. Dismisses the 4 MPs from reform whilst praising the same number from the greens. Dismisses so called far right, then calls for the far left and describes it as ‘progressive’ So he only likes stronger extremes when it’s in the direction of his choice. Eloquent, but flawed.

[@patwardle6655]

Proportional representation sounds a better way, but who and how will that be achieved?

[@grb1969]

Direct Democracy is the appropriate amount of “representation”.

[@sctrh2]

By Corbyn creating his own political party and making it a policy. Then work with other parties, such as WPGB and, yes, reform (they ain't going anywhere soon), plus Greens, if it's also their policy, to apply the pressure. The lib Dems tried, but settled for a referendum on a watered down version that would only have stood in the way of PR, and not enough other parties got behind them in support of PR. I think it would be different now. The mask has slipped and everyone can see the true face behind the two main parties. Even the idiots who have been in denial for decades.

[@zeeone4492]

Revolution I'll say it again Revolution

[@jamespeters2859]

@@zeeone4492Forward the Revolution 🌀👽🪬

[@michaelellis7326]

Presumably the GOVERNMENT !!??

[@eddieburke1404]

What is "far right" ? You're talking BS

[@Redf322]

Google it

[@yetidodger6650]

lol, the epitome of the knuckle dragger right here.

[@garyshepherd9367]

@@yetidodger6650 lol the epitome of the beta male right there 😂

[@Mulberry2000]

Farage, Le Penn

[@Mulberry2000]

@@elise190s If you need me to answer that I can sell you a bridge easily. You just said do not spout labels, but in the next part you said do exactly that. Do be consistent.

[@emilymorton6510]

We need a PR system where people vote only on policies, not political parties. Then donors can't influence elections like they do. They also can't fund party campaigns like they do, and their advertising campaigns won't work. If you have a booklet to choose your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd preferred policies on each issue, then the party or candidates in your constituency will be elected based on those policies and not gutter press. The policies should be legally binding, not sound bits to propagandise people with.

[@kriegfaust]

I love the Idea of making policy legally binding and would add, blanket ban on all these polls that endlessly bombard the hard of thinking into tactical nonsense. Take money out of politics and ban TV debates and PPbroadcasts to force the leaders back onto thee streets and into meeting the very public they shaaat on last time.

[@emilymorton6510]

@kriegfaust exactly. There was a website in 2015/2017 were you could vote on policies to find out who to vote for but wouldn't it make more sense that people just vote for policies and then the most popular party policies win? And if a policy from another party was more popular eg Nationisation of public services fully, the party with the most popular policies would be legally obligated to implement and work with the party who's policy it is as a cross party policy. That would be imo more representative and democratic as people would be directly voting on the policies themselves (a form of direct democracy) and not a person or political party based on propaganda or misinformation as the case currently is with many. It's like saying, "Would you like to continue spending £12,000 per minute on wars or invest that more in our public services" 🤔. The majority would support funding our public services and not spending that money on wars, which we have caused. People would vote for peace. If we did that our economy would grow and inflation would reduce as we'd be investing in the country and not funneling money out of our economy. Same with housing.

[@kriegfaust]

@@emilymorton6510Wow!!, where have you been all our political lives Emily!?!. You need to run or start your own party, you are fresh. We need to start this yesterday. It is a prime of example how our conflict based model both home and abroad brings division not strength. If you think about it we can vote on the latest Simon Cowell offering of tripe n turnips on a Saturday night but we only 'do politics' once every 5 years on a national scale. Add real time interaction into thee above and hey we are already more in-touch wit ht people and democratic than I think we have ever been under the current model!.

[@emilymorton6510]

@kriegfaust I'm Worker's Party, but this is my opinion. Maybe I'll put it to the party when I go to meetings and see how it goes. Worker's Party support PR. We desperately need facts to come out on what is happening, so people understand events better also. We can't trust the government to do that, or BBC, etc. So we need something to help inform people of Government policies, geopolitical policies, international agreements, international law, official statements, interviews given on policies (Russia/Ukraine would be a good example on the lies being told and the provocations over the last 30+ year's leading up to current day events). We need grassroots campaigns, media platforms (Rumble, KZbin, Website) utilising all our independent journalists, and investigating journalists (declassified, Double Down, Moats, Morning Star,etc) and social media platforms. Governments and some political party's try to create consent and sow division. We need to have a system or platform to stop that asap. We're stronger united than divided. So far, they've kept us divided, now is the time we come together.

[@jidsames201]

Easily the best comment I've seen on this issue.

[@JoP444]

Thanks George and DDN. Excellent summation of our disastrous political system. We definitely need to end the FPTP system. In Scotland we aren't represented at all. I am gutted that Labour have gained control up here ( Tories are dead here so they were never a danger) The SNP have totally screwed us over and dashed our Independence hopes for the foreseeable. The only positives from this election were Jeremy Corbyn's fantastic result and the 4 independent candidates joining the 4 Green candidates as a resistance in Westminster ✊️✊️✊️

[@brittrubin9461]

I am not ‘ far right ‘ I am a PATRIOT my people my country ..stop speaking to ‘us ‘ as if we were a bunch of ‘ deplorable’s ‘

[@LaReynedEpee]

Fascists aren't patriots.

[@foloeel]

Far right is deplorable.

[@johnemsley2893]

Would you mind telling me where your patriotism has you with regard to nationalising key industries?

[@yetidodger6650]

lol at the patriot.....you're just a racist but not clever enough to realise it.

[@diabl2master]

​@@johnemsley2893 Any patriot would support bringing key industries like water and rail and post out of the hands of foreign investors and into the hands of the people.

[@johnwalsh9902]

Feet of clay

[@4R53Hole]

Feet of bum-clay

[@RichardPonsford-kv2uy]

I’ll bet he was straight on the phone to Murdoch, the moment he got anointed in.

[@thehammer9599]

Reform are ‘far right’? Don’t be ridiculous.

[@John-vh3xm]

Of course they are politically far right

[@Inspector-Chisholm]

​@@John-vh3xm. Nonsense.

[@Andy-oz8it]

Define "far right" in relation to moderate right?

[@nightowl7459]

Anyone who is learning slightly away from the left is now catalogued as a far right according to these simpletons.

[@michellemason5458]

I will never vote for kier starmer

[@keithward782]

Why when they only had 30 % of the votes. Time to protest by the rest of the ppl.

[@twrecks6279]

Why is this guy describing Reform as dangerous and every other party as hopeful? Seems biased.

[@minekara6407]

Reform is a company run by millionaires yet their followers are illiterate and poor.

[@andyr6267]

It's an outright insult to label 20% of the country as far right.. does this include all the people from ethnic minorities who support Reform? What do you call the actual far right now? Can you define far right please, as it seems that this is now just a term for anyone who doesn't agree with left wing views? Also, Farage seems to have spent the last 30 years campaigning against the influence of oligarchic power, so it seems you have more on common than you realise. Finally, and most importantly, what's your position on immigration? It seems that even a hint of concern about this topic immediately brands one far right, yet it's an undeniable fact that immigration must be controlled in order for any country to make population growth sustainable.

[@user-zn5td2cp1u]

Where are you getting your 20% figure from?

[@alambyant]

Reform is not Far-Right. Why is this guy being so dishonest?

[@minekara6407]

Totally is far right and racist and the rest

[@JaggersLips]

@@minekara6407how is it Racist ?

[@alambyant]

@@minekara6407 Who told you that? Let me know. Thanks.

[@JC_923]

@@JaggersLips Because they blame all problems on immigrants. People without jobs or in insecured gig jobs? Not employers' fault, blame the immigrants. NHS's long waiting line? Nothing to do with an old, out-dated system and underpaid doctors/nurses, blame the immigrants. Rents are high? Professional landlords and big companies buying up all housing ain't the problem! It's those pesky refugees who are to blame. Reform wants only essential worker as immigrants (1st point in their Immigration section in their manifesto) even though this has been the case for over a decade now. They want to stop health tourism (6th point in their immigration section) even though people who haven't lived in the UK long enough or people who don't have a valid EU insurance card already have to pay for healthcare since 2017. And in reality, it is the British people who are the health tourists in Europe due to the long NHS waiting line. Every thing they say or promise breaks down once you look at it. Their voters never look at any of it though. They just eat it up

[@crayontom9687]

@@JaggersLipswell when they said all those racist things that was racist you see

[@farmerfreakeasy9577]

Why do you think one of Reform's policies was to get rid of the BBC George ? You utter wally.

[@GW-jw9vs]

Nigel is not shameful. Try arguing his points and not your far right strawman.

[@AK-np4rp]

Nigel is opposed to immigration, yet all his wives and mistresses have required visas. That is shameful hypocrisy.😂

[@Hal-r3l]

@@AK-np4rp He is not apposed to immigration...he is opposed to the numbers of immigrants that we accept.

[@AK-np4rp]

@@Hal-r3l Well, his mistresses and wives need to be included in that number, otherwise its hypocrisy. Tell me, what has he or his wives and mistresses produced? Only a failed brexit.

[@crayontom9687]

@@Hal-r3lcan he send his wife back first then?

[@GW-jw9vs]

@@AK-np4rp he is not against immigration, he is against mass replacement level immigration. If you are for it you are evil.

[@milesblue638]

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

[@ivst3655]

Bravo! So well said and straight to the point. 👏👏👏

[@Sandorah7Reynolds]

They made it all the way to Day 4 before dropping the first excuse for increasing taxes.

[@andymccann2716]

Oh dear, if you can't see that Reform are tge best option for tge country, you're blind

[@LaReynedEpee]

They're far right fascists. I assume that's your position also.

[@crayontom9687]

The best option if we want to live in a desolate wasteland sure

[@crayontom9687]

@mikesmith1485 their policies make Liz Truss look sensible. The pensions and mortgage market would be destroyed within a week of Farage trying to implement his manifesto

[@DOOM-kronicills]

Read George Monboits book on Neoliberalism and I advice anyone who hasn’t to read it. Harrowing but eye opening really explains a lot of the reason behind the current political system we have and the reason for such a massive wealth divide.

[@chrisstokie2361]

Just finished reading it. Out of the Wreckage. He comes up with no answers and pushes the Green adgenda.

[@jenniferharrison4319]

A house built on sand will fall

[@JACB006]

Sorry but the best party out there is Reform UK.

[@jay64j]

Do you think they are interested in dealing with inequality inherent in the functioning of our society, or do you think they fundamentally have at heart the interests of those with lots of capital and wealth with a few highlighted policies tagged on that attract votes from those not seeing who it is that takes the profits from an average person's hard days graft?

[@JACB006]

@@jay64j A society can’t give what it doesn’t have … for a welfare state to work, it must have money. If the state is funded by a few and used by an unlimited number it will fail, it is a matter of time. That is what is happening with open borders and the numbers coming into the UK. First we need to close the boarders (net zero) and stimulate the economy, pay off some debt, get people working and put some money back in the welfare state’s coffers. There is no point in talking about financial entitlement when the cupboard is bare. Reform UK and all thinking people understand this reality.

[@teatotal8079]

😂

[@jay64j]

@@JACB006 are you aware of how much wealth a very few have? Do you think they have worked for it? Who do you think does work for it? And then compare that to the amount that is spent on immigrant support. The difference in that may be better being measured in light years rather than miles. Farage and those backing him are just as much part of an establishment as Sunak, Rees Mogg, and Johnson.

[@rozalialuks6583]

One of the best podcasts I saw here. When knowledge meets unpretentious talk, this is what happens: Outstanding Class. Thank you Mr. Monbiot. #LONGLIVERESISTANCE

[@santhawaldron8799]

My family and friends will vote for Reform as we are not Right Wing but we are Right !

[@andyturner3940]

The Reform party is unsavoury?? Oh dear

[@michaelellis7326]

Pose explain further !!!!

[@Mohammed-dy6xb]

Thank you DDN !!! This is what proper Journalism is !!

[@animechill9111]

TAX BILLIONAIRES, MAKE TAX HAVENS ILLEGAL!!!

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

@@elise190s No one here is advocating Communism. Taxing the wealthy is morally right; if they have money to burn in Las Vegas casinos, and hire escorts even though they have a trophy-wife on their arm they have way too much money for their own good.

[@yourmother2739]

YES!!!

[@88jayhype]

Thank you, George, for articulating this so cogently and persuasively. There isn't a word and many others disagree with here. The left is not dead; it's time to stop ruminating on defeat and be proactive.

[@DebPercy]

Thank you for saying all this. I completely agree.

[@MatthewSigh]

"Far Right" means nothing.

[@Tyronepeader]

Get back to GB News, your natural media habitat. You know you love it there.🙄😏

[@antispindr8613]

... apart from being uncaring, reactionary, hateful, racist, nasty and Fascist?

[@michaelellis7326]

Exactly !!!!

[@KovietUnionDefector]

Please tell me that the Greens do not have a policy in their manifesto to BAN PETS? Before anyone bans my cats they better ban SMOKING and tabacco growing. My pets are my family and I have a human right to them. So I hope the Greens bin that idea.

[@juliewake4585]

I think much of it is because of the idea of subjugation of animals and the horrible things we do to produce a certain type of animal. I have to say I have a dog and two cats, all of whom are rescue animals, and I would never do anything else.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

​@@juliewake4585my cats have subjugated me

[@stratblaster]

Anyone who has pets is cruel to animals. Unless for food or work keeping animals is a sign of psychological problems

[@juliewake4585]

@@nathanaelsmith3553 yes that is probably true in many cases. I think we have made awful decisions- probably with dogs but with cats too- as far as designing certain types of animals

[@mikeoglen6848]

Do you realise the Carbon Footprint of all these pets?

[@Mulberry2000]

I did not vote in 2024. last time 19 i voted for Corbyn. He offered me Hope. Starmer offers me a Genocide.

[@ahmedloonat1859]

I agree with everything you've said. Honest journalism right here

[@christsangaris]

Thank god for you guys and some great journalists on substack too. Keep up the good work 🙏🏽

[@JohnSSSSS]

Why does it have to be *either* immigration or capitalism that causes things like unaffordable housing etc. It's clearly both. You can't have 600k net immigration per year and not expect it to cause a housing shortage, which then opportunistic landlords will exploit for profit.

[@keithparker1346]

Apparently there's no negative impact of immigration

[@vmax4steve524]

90% of social housing was sold off after Thatcher's right to buy at one third of market value. Most then sold after the three year clause for quick profit and the houses went to private landlords, councils were not allowed to use the funds to build more social housing. There's your housing crisis right there, nothing to do with mass immigration. The dream of owning your own home is a fantasy, you will die but your house won't and it will become yet another mortgage for the banks to profit from. What's needed is social housing that's rent free after 30 years of living there to build back the communities that were destroyed after 'right to buy' because that's a major part of why 'right to buy' was initiated by the tories in the first place, to make the working class afraid to lose their homes so they buckle under bad management and don't take industrial action when their wages are cut year after year.

[@kazab873]

Spot on! Neo conservatives and Liberals love cheap labour

[@michaelellis7326]

Come on Labour, sort it out without delay !!!

[@goldengroovesradio5487]

FFS reform are NOT far right

[@ReapermanUK]

to be fair your a bit right, they are far far far right wing nutters

[@juanpablojones]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@michaelellis7326]

What difference does it make ???? None at all !!!!

[@andybray9791]

Exactly

[@andydavies5817]

Lost me when you started calling reform Far right but never heard anything about the far left!!

[@yetidodger6650]

they are far right ffs, thats Farages job to push the main two parties further right, its not rocket science,

[@4R53Hole]

What about the far left? Who do you mean? Not a significant factor in UK.

[@crissieroserose]

Thank you George , i really appreciate your talks

[@cubax599]

We need a bi polar voting system. Each voter has 2 boxes. Not just 1 to say who they want elected but also 2 to state who they DON'T WANT elected. Respective parties votes would get a deduction for Don't Wants. Imagine.

[@AVM-Music]

Apathy is what the government wanted all along

[@NG-xf5lt]

This is actual journalism. Thanks!

[@johnhanson5943]

No it’s not. It’s another puppet of oligarchy pretending to be different to the others. Perhaps a more vile and dangerous face of Big Brother!

[@gtaylor178]

I think you will find that Journalism is reporting on events not pushing an agenda, that is called something else. Reflect.

[@martinmorris6485]

totally thanks will pass this on , sums up my concerns too

[@paulinedebeaufort8630]

Thank you .The truth always sounds so real and authentic.What a pity its not mainstream .

[@No1floatsting]

Indeed! “Fight the Power!” & Keep on Keeping on Truckin’…🚚!