George Monbiot - The invisible ideology - Part 1- Consumerism, Capitalism and Neo-liberalism

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The Invisible Ideology - An amazing talk from the well known author and Guardian journalist George Monbiot. George delves deep into the invisible ideologies trashing our planet.
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@crissieroserose 3 жыл бұрын

o my god GEORGE , THANK YOU FOR VOICING HOW I FEEL. I THOUGHT I WAS LOSING MY MIND

@goncaloborges9387 3 жыл бұрын

No mate , u just not asleep walking

@sharonramsey715 3 жыл бұрын

I felt like I had come home, just listening to George lifted my spirits. I was feeling so alone in my thinking.

@zigigeryan9371 3 жыл бұрын

I loved his description of consumerism so much I went on Amazon and bought ALL of George's books!!!!

@mmarone333 3 жыл бұрын

Brainwashed consumerism, how deeply ironic (or was that purposely done?). Buy from local independent book stores, if you can find them (and you can if you try). Monopoly capitalism has resulted in totalitarian companies like Amazon, Google, Walmart, the Big Banks, FarceBook, etc. It'll be the death of us, literally.

@zigigeryan9371 3 жыл бұрын

@@mmarone333 it was a joke!!!

@ScheveSneeuwSchuifSchep 3 жыл бұрын

@@mmarone333 lol u didn't see the joke?

@sidarthur8706 3 жыл бұрын

wait no

@juliewake4585 3 жыл бұрын

That’s hilarious.

@mikemidulster 3 жыл бұрын

I would consider myself to be a non-conforming Marxist, ( I question everything) so I can see a lot of value in what G. Monbiot is saying here. This is a video that everyone should listen to! I was always at odds with G.M. on what might be the solutions to our current predicament because while he chipped away at the various injustices created by capitalism, he never went as far as questioning the system itself. Now that he has, as he says, 'reluctantly', finally come to the conclusion that the system must go, I'm all ears! This is probably the best short explanation I've heard of how property rights and propaganda have led to the catastrophic situation we find ourselves in now. Yet I sense that George is still a bit hesitant; Using the term 'Soviet communism' is not helpful as communism has never existed. George is correct that what happened in the USSR was anything but progressive, but to label that as 'communism' is to fall into the trap set by the apologists of capitalism. That's exactly what they want you to say, because it's a code for 'there is no alternative to capitalism'. So you may as well throw the baby out with the bathwater. The Irony is that while George is decrying communism and incorrectly citing the Soviet Union as an example, in an attempt to prove that communism doesn't work, he explains very eloquently the destructive nature of capitalism using ideas which come directly from Marx and Engels, the founding fathers of communism. So he has inadvertently shown that the USSR was not communist. If G. Monbiot could rid himself of all of the encumbrances of capitalist propaganda, he could become the foremost spokesperson for a movement to transform human relations.

@carlscott7533 3 жыл бұрын

Great observation brother of his silence on the most important subject matters, which is far more powerful than his actual dialogue. You probably already know www.medialens.co.uk. Or, (.com) if not take a look at responses by monbiot to well researched and respectful questions to the media, government military intelligence, corpotocracy Nexus and the language used to obfuscate, bully and misinform the public about the intentions of the global elite and their agents. Happy New year and come on Fulham....

@vantahawk2834 3 жыл бұрын

This

@kurnutovsky 3 жыл бұрын

I agree Michael. This is a shift leftward for Monbiot. He denies he's a communist and much of that is driven by the damage Stalinism has done to it. I am ony 20 minutes in to it so I am all ears too. It's good he's reach the point of anticapitalism

@davidgurarie6712 3 жыл бұрын

He did. He openly calls for the end of capitalism, in its current consumerist, neo-liberal form. He also stressed the role of ideology in shaping human mind and behavior. There is no simple solution and clear path away from our predicament. GM made no pretense to hold a crystal ball. But he suggests we start with a critical overview of our core principles (ideologies), and the powerful forces behind them.

@kurnutovsky 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidgurarie6712 Well the way you are phrasing it seems like he doesn''t say that capitalism is not compatible with human life and nature. That it can be tweaked and we can make it work. This would disappoint me as that would be a mistake. But I still haven't watched it through so I'll have to return to it pronto.

@richarddobson4382 3 жыл бұрын

Listening in from Peru. I love the idea of enjoyment of resources as opposed to possession of resources. Seems to me like a good way forward.

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

Not a new idea of course: it's there is the religions and even in Communism but the nasty, evil, greedy bastards always win in the end: I guess we fucked up in the Garden and we're still sufferin' the consequences..

@johnprice6735 3 жыл бұрын

One of the most amazing lectures I've ever listened too

@gengar1187 3 жыл бұрын

I mean except that he clownishly suggested that Marx presented himself as "having all the answers" lol

@humblewoodcutter6542 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. He's quite good.

@jaijai5250 3 жыл бұрын

@Broderick Gunther it’s not necessarily about material gain and possession. It’s more about ideology, having a social conscience and having the courage of your convictions. Tony Benn (Labour MP), denounced his aristocratic title, plus most owner occupiers in London have expensive homes due to prices being ridiculously inflated. ....P.S o came to the comment section before I watched the video, so hope I’m not repeating what’s already been said.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

Why not ask George the question after his latest talk - Dying form Consumption? LIVE - 17th May - 7pm GMT *** Join a live-stream talk and his interactive Q & A with the audience; music, poetry and talks. **** Ticket link & more info HERE - tinyurl.com/GeorgeMonbiot2021 ****

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@Broderick Gunther George leads a very humble life. Eating lwo carbon and not travelling abroad. Why not ask George the question at his latest talk - Dying from Consumption? LIVE - 17th May - 7pm GMT * Join a live-stream talk and his interactive Q & A with the audience; music, poetry and talks. ** Ticket link & more info HERE - tinyurl.com/GeorgeMonbiot2021 **

@buddhangle 3 жыл бұрын

This guy makes too much damn sense.

@StrangeAttractor 3 жыл бұрын

no he doesn't, because he refuses to discuss overpopulation. Go and watch 'Endgame 2050' for a more rounded discussion.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

Why not ask George the question after his latest talk - Dying from Consumption? LIVE - 17th May - 7pm GMT * Join a live-stream talk and his interactive Q & A with the audience; music, poetry and talks. ** Ticket link & more info HERE - tinyurl.com/GeorgeMonbiot2021 **

@vicsomeone 3 жыл бұрын

@@LOVEITTVclips Dead link ☹

@fromeveryting29 2 жыл бұрын

@@StrangeAttractor The issue isn't mainly human overpopulation. The promblem is overpopulation of farmed animals we want to exploit and eat. Those animals make us need to use 4x the ammount of farmland, costs us 10-100x more resources. An additional 70+ billion more mouths to feed is the real issue. The futher up the foodchain one eats, the more it costs. Astronomically so.

@StrangeAttractor 2 жыл бұрын

@@fromeveryting29 industrial farming, or indeed any modern mechanised industry, works on an economy of scale. McDonalds clearing the Amazon for livestock only makes business sense if they're selling tens of millions of burgers a day. Even if we all went vegetarian today, the problems of resource-intensive large-scale crop production and food miles are still baked into the system. The problem is overpopulation.

@richdiana3663 3 жыл бұрын

Capitalism rewards greed, we can't afford it anymore.

@wbaumschlager 3 жыл бұрын

No, it rewards success. You can be greedy as hell. No one gives you a single dollar for that.

@kuwapa 3 жыл бұрын

There must be a connection.. like the invisible hand of greed that is praised as the best mechanism of distribution - encouraging a myopic ideological selfish notion of success. And in being accepted it precludes that there may be any alternative of meeting our needs other than simple individual ambition.

@wbaumschlager 3 жыл бұрын

@@kuwapa Greedy is just another word for using as few resources as possible. Same thing, two different words. Are you familiar with a concept called Russell's conjugation? "I'm saving resources, you're greedy, he's a f-ing cheapskate."

@decimusrex92 3 жыл бұрын

@@wbaumschlager You must work on wall street in some capacity. Your nonsense ranks up there with perpetual growth.

@CircumcisedUnicorn 3 жыл бұрын

@@decimusrex92 lol

@TheCharlesFr 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent Summary. It is true that high-standards journalism--telling people the truth that isn't always flashy or exactly what people want to hear - is a great first line against fascism. And with things like "Facebook" serving as journalism today we are in a bad state.

@toyotaprius79 3 жыл бұрын

A phenomenal listen

@martindutton1645 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent framing! I particularly liked the part on Locke and then the simple description of neo-liberalism . This is a really good talk and - well really everybody should listen to it. Thanks 🙏🏻

@sabbracadabra8367 2 жыл бұрын

I agree but I think most people would not be able to understand it.

@evenstar5167 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this fascinating lecture. I've recently woken up to the fact that my consumerist actions don't align with my purported values of minimalism and sustainability. You clearly articulate my cognitive dissonance and I really appreciate the message at the time I'm working to enact personal change.

@douglasfreeman3229 Жыл бұрын

Serious questions: How far are you willing to take your "minimalism"? How far are you willing to go to coerce other people into accepting your idea of "minimalism"? And how much "minimalism" should they accept? I do not expect you to reply. XR supporters never seem to answer questions, whether they are in good faith or not.

@evenstar5167 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasfreeman3229 Hi Douglas happy to reply. Minimalism is my choice. It makes me feel calmer and more comfortable in my home. However, I wouldn't try to foist what makes me happy on other people. I have no right to demand other people think or feel the same way as me. Personal choice is exactly that, personal. I don't think our current level of consumption is sustainable but people have to be free to make their own choices for their own reasons.

@carlbennett2417 Жыл бұрын

@@douglasfreeman3229 lol. How about I "coerce" you into a tragedy of the commons dynamic where everyone is worse off? The question lacks an understanding of the lethal ideology we have arrived at not by accident, but because people more powerful than you want it that way.

@theotherandrew5540 3 жыл бұрын

50 years ago when I was reading Economics, those same question were around, and the same absence of answers. Then Thatcher told us, "there is no alternative (to the unnamed neoliberalism)." She got away with it because there appeared to BE no alternative. Nothing has changed, except that we are now considerable nearer to the whimpering end. Alas Monbiot, your destiny is the curse of Cassandra. I most sincerely hope I'm wrong.

@CarlyonProduction 3 жыл бұрын

This is George’s best talk IMO. I love the way he dissects celebrity culture. He links it to consumerism and describes its material link to capital in a way that’s rarely articulated. The other great thing is - it’s all done in a language anyone can understand. He doesn’t talk in jargon or fancy academic language. He gets down to it and is ruthless in his analysis. Would love to see a real probing interview with George on these topics.

@Burbituate 3 жыл бұрын

Jeez you think they make Hollywood films for entertainment? Or to show you how to live and what to want? That's not even considering product placements in them, the morality tales, concepts of "success" etc. All fed from "Stars" now called celeb's

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@dystopiaeatsmoney 3 жыл бұрын

I reach out to the 50 people who down voted this talk. Please tell me what you don’t agree with? To my mind, every word he says is on point. Wonderful, scary listening.

@sabbracadabra8367 2 жыл бұрын

It's probably bots owned by BBC and such.

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

If you read my contribution you'll see one, just one mind, assertion I take issue with..

@GS-dz5kr 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you George and thank you for Double Down news 🙏

@Adamb87 3 жыл бұрын

Put this on the BBC , Chanel 4 and ITV all on the same night 9pm for a week every night

@citizencairn5230 3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@Adamb87 2 жыл бұрын

To educate and provide an insight into where we are truly at . Shit that love island gets weeks of coverage , surely we can give George Monbiot a whole week

@monicatata6725 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You for this most Insightful while straightforward explanation of IoT= Interconnectedness of Togetherness, the speaker is able to explain the connections between Mental Health, Consumerism, Competition, Capitalism & the destruction of Macro Ecosystem Planet Earth

@titabell360 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you for your time and knowledge

@e75short14 3 жыл бұрын

Just imagine last stage of the capitalism as we consume natural resources to produce goods for profit. Desire and greed is the engine which its growth depends on. When there is nothing left to consume, eventually we will devour ourselves.

@encomunismo 3 жыл бұрын

Well, somehow that's already happening.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@Heloise O'Byrne Why not ask George the question after his latest talk - Dying from Consumption? LIVE - 17th May - 7pm GMT * Join a live-stream talk and his interactive Q & A with the audience; music, poetry and talks. ** Ticket link & more info HERE - tinyurl.com/GeorgeMonbiot2021 **

@francismausley7239 3 жыл бұрын

Good talk. [] "...true prosperity, the fruit of a dynamic coherence between the material and spiritual requirements of life, will recede further and further out of reach as long as consumerism continues to act as opium to the human soul…." [] ~ The Universal House of Justice, Baha'i Faith

@larrysmith2636 3 жыл бұрын

a: how much does it cost? b: more than you have, but we have excellent financing a: excellent for who? b:

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@amandap9332 3 жыл бұрын

@@LOVEITTVclips i missed it... will you be doing another livestream with George Monbiot anytime soon?

@cathlaurs9754 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you George. Thank you.

@ganazby 3 жыл бұрын

Everything must go, except the spider-proof shed. Great talk.

@alexcarter8807 3 жыл бұрын

Hm, I don't know, I like spiders.

@frechjo 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexcarter8807 I do too, but I'll get the mosquito-proof bedroom if it's not too expensive, please.

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

Chestnuts! Spiders hate chestnuts: put 'em your shed!

@Hassanatt 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative! Thank you from Sudan.

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

Libertarian socialism has worked pretty well in the highly limited trials such as during the Spanish Revolution of 1936. The fact that Western capitalism, fascism and Soviet authoritarian communism would combine resources to crush such a society before it could really get established tells us a thing or two. "I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life - snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc. - had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money - tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master." - George Orwell, Homage to Catalonia

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

"I was impressed by the strength of the C.N.T. It was unnecessary to tell me that it was the largest and most vital of the working-class organisations in Spain. The large industries were clearly, in the main, in the hands of the C.N.T.--railways, road transport, shipping, engineering, textiles, electricity, building, agriculture. At Valencia the U.G.T. had a larger share of control than at Barcelona, but generally speaking the mass of manual workers belonged to the C.N.T. The U.G.T. membership was more of the type of the 'white-collar' worker...I was immensely impressed by the constructive revolutionary work which is being done by the C.N.T. Their achievement of workers' control in industry is an inspiration. One could take the example of the railways or engineering or textiles...There are still some Britishers and Americans who regard the Anarchists of Spain as impossible, undisciplined, uncontrollable. This is poles away from the truth. The Anarchists of Spain, through the C.N.T., are doing one of the biggest constructive jobs ever done by the working class. At the front they are fighting Fascism. Behind the front they are actually constructing the new Workers' Society. They see that the war against Fascism and the carrying through of the Social Revolution are inseparable. Those who have seen and understand what they are doing must honour them and be grateful to them. They are resisting Fascism. They are at the same time creating the New Workers' Order which is the only alternative to Fascism. That is surely the biggest things now being done by the workers in any part of the world." And in another place: "The great solidarity that existed amongst the Anarchists was due to each individual relying on his own strength and not depending on leadership. The organisations must, to be successful, be combined with a free-thinking people; not a mass, but free individuals." - Fenner Brockway

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

In Spain during almost three years, despite a civil war that took a million lives, despite the opposition of the political parties (republicans, left and right Catalan separatists, socialists, Communists, Basque and Valencian regionalists, petty bourgeoisie, etc.), this idea of libertarian communism was put into effect. Very quickly more than 60% of the land was collectively cultivated by the peasants themselves, without landlords, without bosses, and without instituting capitalist competition to spur production. In almost all the industries, factories, mills, workshops, transportation services, public services, and utilities, the rank and file workers, their revolutionary committees, and their syndicates reorganized and administered production, distribution, and public services without capitalists, high salaried managers, or the authority of the state. The various agrarian and industrial collectives immediately instituted economic equality in accordance with the essential principle of communism, 'From each according to his ability and to each according to his needs.' They coordinated their efforts through free association in whole regions, created new wealth, increased production (especially in agriculture), built more schools, and bettered public services. They instituted not bourgeois formal democracy but genuine grass roots functional libertarian democracy, where each individual participated directly in the revolutionary reorganization of social life. They replaced the war between men, 'survival of the fittest,' by the universal practice of mutual aid, and replaced rivalry by the principle of solidarity.... This experience, in which about eight million people directly or indirectly participated, opened a new way of life to those who sought an alternative to anti-social capitalism on the one hand, and totalitarian state bogus socialism on the other. " - Gaston Leval

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

"In the midst of the civil war the Anarchists have proved themselves to be political organizers of the first rank. They kindled in everyone the required sense of responsibility, and knew how, by eloquent appeals, to keep alive the spirit of sacrifice for the general welfare of the people. "As a Social Democrat I speak here with inner joy and sincere admiration of my experiences in Catalonia. The anti-capitalist transformation took place here without their having to resort to a dictatorship. The members of the syndicates are their own masters and carry on the production and the distribution of the products of labor under their own management, with the advice of technical experts in whom they have confidence. The enthusiasm of the workers is so great that they scorn any personal advantage and are concerned only for the welfare of all." - Andrea Oltmares

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

"The economic changes that followed the military insurrection were no less dramatic than the political. In those provinces where the revolt had failed the workers of the two trade union federations, the Socialist UGT and the Anarchosyndicalist CNT, took into their hands a vast portion of the economy. Landed properties were seized; some were collectivized, others were distributed among the peasants, and notarial archives as well as registers of property were burnt in countless towns and villages. Railways, tramcars and buses, taxicabs and shipping, electric light and power companies, gasworks and waterworks, engineering and automobile assembly plants, mines and cement works, textile mills and paper factories, electrical and chemical concerns, glass bottle factories and perfumeries, food-processing plants and breweries, as well as a host of other enterprises, were confiscated or controlled by workmen's committees, either term possessing for the owners almost equal significance in practice. Motion-picture theatres and legitimate theatres, newspapers and printing shops, department stores and bars, were likewise sequestered or controlled as were the headquarters of business and professional associations and thousands of dwellings owned by the upper class. " - Burnett Bolloten

@mattw9764 3 жыл бұрын

"In many communities money for internal use was abolished, because, in the opinion of Anarchists, "money and power are diabolical philtres, which turn a man into a wolf, into a rabid enemy, instead of into a brother." "Here in Fraga [a small town in Aragon], you can throw banknotes into the street," ran an article in a Libertarian paper, "and no one will take any notice. Rockefeller, if you were to come to Fraga with your entire bank account you would not be able to buy a cup of coffee. Money, your God and your servant, has been abolished here, and the people are happy." In those Libertarian communities where money was suppressed, wages were paid in coupons, the scale being determined by the size of the family. Locally produced goods, if abundant, such as bread, wine, and olive oil, were distributed freely, while other articles could be obtained by means of coupons at the communal depot. Surplus goods were exchanged with other Anarchist towns and villages, money being used only for transactions with those communities that had not adopted the new system. " - Burnett Bolloten

@JAMAICADOCK 3 жыл бұрын

Endless growth, sounds like cancer.

@dennismwangi3573 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, this endless growth leads to death, of us, our ecosystems, our resources, our morals, just like cancer. It doesn't just sound like, I think it actually is.

@brianlaroche8856 3 жыл бұрын

Endless take overs of all things that make people human and make the earth a place to lives is NOT GROWTH

@judithwyer389 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think Marx thought he had all the answers. But he asked the right questions. He left Capital to be finished by Engels. He established a method for understanding capitalism as it was established during the industrial revolution, and in many ways he left more questions than answers.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is in grappling with real questions and applying partial solutions based of true altruism is our only way forward. Total solutions are not available. We should never have eaten that apple!

@jonathaneffemey944 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting.

@VinsLeMans 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely remarkable

@anapombeiro2411 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant 😁, thanks for sharing and caring.

@chrisjsuk 3 жыл бұрын

George said there hasn't been a system of belief that puts nature first; I would suggest shamanism as practiced by Native american indians and many other ethnic societies

@SlinkShady 3 жыл бұрын

Which Native American's. One of the big misunderstandings is they were all the same. They clearly weren't. They also didn't live in a modern world with the technologies we have available. It simply doesn't translater into the modern world. This is basically "the noble savage" fallacy.

@platosbeard4449 3 жыл бұрын

@@SlinkShady the noble savage fallacy? Most indigenous societies, including First Nations in the Americas, had harmonious relations with the natural world. The so called modern cultures are actually brutish and uncivilised, and hence are driving the planet towards unsustainable conditions. www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/indigenous-people-and-nature-tradition-conservation

@SlinkShady 3 жыл бұрын

@@platosbeard4449 so you're arguing that people who were not technologically advanced, and had no way of impacting the planet on the scale humans have to date, and had far smaller populations somehow means they were more in tune with the planet? Like they never killed off whole species of animals like the mammoth? They did nothing that adversely affected their envrionment on even a small scale like with monoculture agriculture? And you're pointing to modern descendents who aren't "savages" as evidence that they were all noble in the past? Try again.

@platosbeard4449 3 жыл бұрын

@@SlinkShady it’s apparent that you know little about ancient societies or indeed present day indigenous societies. I thought that by posting the UNEP link you would avail yourself of some reading. If you had, and then perhaps gone further to do other reading available online, you would understand that current day indigenous societies live sustainably with the natural world and a lot of these societies have been vocal about the unsustainable lifestyle of so called modern societies. Indigenous societies are not magical, they simply have a better understanding of sustainable living which have been passed down from generation to generation through their oral traditions and so called myths. However, so called modern societies, who are no more than arrogant barbarians for the most part, have dismissed indigenous societies as superstitious or illiterate. Well, with the current conditions of our environment, a detached observer will more readily point to the societies attempting to burn down the planet and destroy the environment (their home) as the illiterate and barbaric societies wouldn’t you think.

@SlinkShady 3 жыл бұрын

@@platosbeard4449 and now you present a strawman argument which I never raised to try and beat me with it. I never claimed our way of life was sustianable or even desirable. I pointed out that the indigenous peoples you described never got to a size where they could do the damage we do. But please, I can see you're on your imaginary hioh ground and I'd hate to knock you off of it by pointing out that you ignored the points I raised about how past indigenous peoples ahve wiped out many animal species and replaced areas with monocultures that have impacted the wildlife and flora in those areas. Here's a little clue for you: all existence has an impact on everything that exists around it. To believe that this is somehow absent from indigenous people either today or in the past is to ignore reality. What might have been low impact because of the small numbers of people does not necessarily translate to low impact when those numbers swell to large proportions and they continue that way of life.

@chowchichang2922 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant!

@noneofyourbizness 3 жыл бұрын

well written and presented. thanks

@shorditchiscool 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@JohnSmith-vd6fc 3 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to see if Distributism might be an answer to the problems inherent with capitalism. Where everyone in a corporation was a true part owner of that corporation and not just a minuscule stock owner. The Mondragon, Spain model might be something that would fit between the pyramid scheme of capitalism and the supposed expert led panopticon of socialism.

@mns8732 3 жыл бұрын

@20:30, its explained with a rational equation. In other words it's not rocket science. But one would assume that with all of the world's computer power that pathway for raising all boats is easily discerned.

@vantahawk2834 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing of what you are describing is in opposition to socialism but squarely placed within its definiton and history. Distributism is just market socialism for catholics.

@Magnulus76 3 жыл бұрын

Ownership of the means of production by workers is consistent with Marx, whether you call it distributism or not.

@Magnulus76 3 жыл бұрын

BTW, I'm all for the notion that people that make our goods and services should have substantial ownership of the profits. I think that just makes good sense . Otherwise, you get workers alienated from what they are working on, and surely even the most ardent person on the right can imagine how that could be a bad thing if you want "only the best"?

@farahabdi7777 Жыл бұрын

Great piece

@michealcurrie8272 3 жыл бұрын

Bravo, encore .

@ese3go 3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of mahogany: B Traven's "The March to the Monterias" is an exquisite description of what this means.

@noelbradley8027 3 жыл бұрын

Very good and challenging thank you

@subrotochatterjee5788 3 жыл бұрын

Some of my thoughts mirrors Monbiot’s thinking. I’d be interested to know what he thinks about the current presence and tolerance by many about the British royalty. Some are more equal than others.

@atomiccritter6492 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot imagine he supports the idea of royalty--- found this tweet of his "...remind me that it's not the royal family itself that makes me gag, but the crawling, sycophantic coverage it gets from the media."

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know but I suspect he would say it is a minor distraction from an apocalyptic issue. Phil the Greek was right in calling the royal family the 'firm'..

@wordscaninspire114 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome George 💛

@Mundproductionfunkhaus 3 жыл бұрын

well done

@tumbleweedtravelblog3227 3 жыл бұрын

Tell all your friends to listen to this

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

please do share far and wide .

@jefflarsen393 3 жыл бұрын

The great question is this: Why doesn't this message, so brilliantly presented, resonate with everybody who isn't wealthy? I will never understand that, nor why people accept false hierachies in society.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

Good point.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

Good point. Jeff this video seems to be very popular. Can I ask how you came to find this talk ?

@davidstokes5905 3 жыл бұрын

Because people want to live with what they have. To challenge hierarchies successfully means rebellion, sacrifice, imprisonment, protest, police harassment and all the rest. Think about it a bit more. You'll get there.

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

..I believe you can add the following: People are so indoctrinated and conditioned to look to their 'betters' while their 'betters' in Eton etc are indoctrinated in the oppodite way. Basically it's brainwashing. One other contributory factor is, in GB there is a kind of conformism and conservatism that is almost genetic rather than taught. We Irish are a rebellous lot and the upside of that is we're difficult to 'train'. We like to see not 2 but 3 sides of an argument: these guys' views those guys' views and us guys' views..

@jimilee4660 3 жыл бұрын

I could tolerate Neoliberalism if I get to be the guy "printing" the money. Then I could decide who was "deserving."

@Dan-xo9ly 3 жыл бұрын

Al Bartlett spoke of exponential growth as well. Worth looking up

@charliebozzo9948 3 жыл бұрын

27:00 started with the popeil- inside the egg shell egg beater! Hyperconsumerism combined with doubling of the world's population in my 60 years here- is an underlying chronic stress.

@iainbellingham8004 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, everyone should listen to George's stuff and read his books.

@visioneer2008 3 жыл бұрын

"Mixing labour with the land" seems to mean that if a person works the land to produce some kind of good, s/he then has a claim to ownership of that land. In practice, however, it just comes down to who has the most muscle and/or political and/or money power.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@anettemor1730 3 жыл бұрын

Well said about ALL ideologies being nothing but a hypotheses about the possible world structure. "Power of ideology" shutting down all other ways of seeing the world. Also true about "silent" ideologies compare to "laud" ones, like communism or cristianity. The only problem here - that is true for SURVIVALISM too. Ecologism can be added as a 4th to the 3 "evels" he listed here. all THE SAME THINGS can be said about ecologism too. Even worse - ecologism triggers a division of nations and some of them indulging in discussions WHO is worthy of living and who is not, it welcomes DEATH of humans, it removes stigmas from wars and epidemics as they "help" to reduce amount of humans on earth, it made humans secondary to "planet" and tells humans they are NOT WORTHY of existence. 'Amount of materials used" is just one of artificial measures. Nothing wrong with inheritance right either. Families generate weath just as soon as they loose it. Nothing wrong with creating NEW things too. That is called "progress". In practice, different countries are in DIFFERENT STAGES and they need DIFFERENT IDEAS. There are even countries which need more people to progress faster. Saying "WE" the author has to be clear - his "WE" coveres only "first world". From that angle ecologism is just LOGICAL continuation of WESTERN VIEWS, just one more piece added to capitalism, to keep NEO-COLONIALISM GOING. Now lets stop development of the rest of the world by lecturing them how to stop consuming and drop thier hopes for better lives. Lets call them substandard for "irresponsible" lives full of uncontrolled reproduction and rised use of resources as they industrialise. People do not need to search for NEW IDEOLOGY, to get brainwashed yet again. It is time to pave a way to SEE what ALL ideologies are about. We cannot be free of them. They are the way WE SEE WORLD. Letting all of them COEXIST FREELY, examine them all the time and appling SIMULTANIOUSLY, as point of reference when applicable.

@honeychurchgipsy6 3 жыл бұрын

@Anette Mor - I think you might be doing a bit of post hoc reasoning here. You begin with the assumption that all western academics/writers/speakers etc like Monbiot MUST at heart be attempting to keep NEO_COLONIALISM going and then fit everything said to that assumption. I understand the issue of those who already enjoy a privileged life with all that technology etc. gives us, effectively wanting to prevent further, continued exponential growth. But ask yourself what the alternative is going to be?? Also, when countries such as India and Africa endorse right wing - might is right - winner takes all capitalist systems (just look at Russia?) what happens? A few get ridiculously wealthy and the rest still live in poverty.

@GroovismOrg 3 жыл бұрын

The power is in the population of the Earth, entraining as One. By spreading the knowledge & enjoyment of, along with the hardware, to connect to The One! We will miraculously, musically unite as foreseen, by many prophets! Many of us with our handheld lit devices. Thought to a candles, are actually; WiFi'd cell phones!! Be One & Groove On Ken

@screenarts Жыл бұрын

The idea was everyman to know how it feels to be a king. Everyman to own at least 1 slave was a desire of some of the founders of the US.

@dennismwangi3573 3 жыл бұрын

18:53-4 Quite deep thought. I agree, at least to many of us.

@dennismwangi3573 3 жыл бұрын

This is what the 'preachers' of the word of God should be saying, so sad they shun this message, at least largely so.

@peterjol 3 жыл бұрын

there is an easy way out of this infinite growth system....it must be made financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the jobs we NEED people to do and working LESS. We have to stop working and doing anything FOR money and change to doing the work we NEED to have done. There would be no such thing as a shortage of jobs in a world that made it worthwhile to share the work we NEED to have done and work LESS. There would be no reason to create pointless jobs...and nobody would have to be anyone's slave.. building the rich people their mansions, yachts, and supercars and doing anything else they want slaves to do for their money. Nobody would have to be doing the jobs and making the shi* we don't need because it's a way to earn money and wasting resources and therefore you couldn't buy it anyway. There is no possible way out of an infinite growth system all the time people primarily work FOR money instead of primarily doing the work WE need and want to have done.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

agreed.

@davidmartin4605 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I’ve been feeling lately. I’m not fulfilled in my job because my job doesn’t even need to exist.

@toyotaprius79 3 жыл бұрын

👄👌🏽✨ 👏👏👏

@willbrown6287 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmartin4605 Don't know if you're aware of this, but David Graeber's book Bullshit Jobs might be an interesting read for ya! There are several talks of his on youtube... Should have waited until the end of the video to post this...

@MichaelSmith-dy4vb 2 жыл бұрын

Am reminded of Audre Lorde! The Master’s tools will never dismantle the Master’s house.

@danielbtwd 3 жыл бұрын

Because the producers have time constraints imposed upon them by those that produce nothing. Any system that values the principle of getting something for nothing is doomed. I am very happy in my tent on my land making compost.

@GreenMorningDragonProductions 3 жыл бұрын

Did you drop into the local internet Caffe to type that?

@danielbtwd 3 жыл бұрын

@@GreenMorningDragonProductions mobile internet.

@benderthefourth3445 Жыл бұрын

The paradox of celebrity... interesting

@GroovismOrg 3 жыл бұрын

The true inborn, newly recognized ideology: Groovism! Belief in the power of music, empowered by technology's introduction to the global community! Miracles are needed; the spiritual healing powers of music are strongly believed in, practiced, & instinctively undeniable!! Our labors of ownership are now pointless, useless, and are at odds, with how to better use our time, to fulfill our purpose. Be One

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@Onkarr 3 жыл бұрын

38:27 Buckminster fuller anyone? Grunch of giants

@ellengran6814 3 жыл бұрын

To me, the ideologie capitalism is grounded in the religions of the Middle East, accelerated by the misunderstood understanding of nature as a place for survival of «the strongest» - a place where we all constantly fight. The religions of the Middle East tell humans they are given the rights no other living creatures have. Old religions told the story of duty - a duty to care for nature.

@thomashunt2092 2 жыл бұрын

I would have said "Consumerism, capitalism and materialism" !

@aaronrey2658 3 жыл бұрын

The greatest shift out of abject poverty in history has happened over the last 200 years. Modernization, Suffrage, more freedom, Developing markets, signals, growth economics, wealth, technology, innovation. We have reduced abject poverty 90%, In the last 75 years Education, Nutrition, Health, lifespan has increased 1-5x, reduction of global state violence has fallen 90% vs. prior 500yrs.

@mariusmuresan8248 3 жыл бұрын

We have reduced the abject poverty primitive capitalism / industrial revolution had created in the first place. Before that the was no abject poverty. Material means were modest but so were the perceived needs, and people lived rather content with their lot.

@jazminew38 Ай бұрын

We born socialists in groups of people, families, communities that care about each other, works with each others and helps each other. In Africa, Asia and some other places, family values and community values are still stronger than the individualism and selfishness of the West who are not only destroying family values but also destroying anybody who thinks critically and have strong morals, values or faith 😢

@chagoriver7159 3 жыл бұрын

awesome talk.

@psikeyhackr6914 3 жыл бұрын

Notice that neither the Left nor the Right advocate mandatory accounting in the schools. But Adam Smith wrote about education "the most essential parts of education, however, to read, write, and account, can be acquired at so early a period of life..." www.victorianweb.org/economics/smith2.html Considering that 50% of Brits were illiterate when Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations mandatory accounting would have been absurd back then. But we could have done it since Sputnik.

@Lina-ws3sy 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me what's the name of the belgian writer he mentions? Paul Van something? At 35:53

@jacekmiksza505 2 жыл бұрын

For those who want to know more about how ideologies work : www.actualized.org/articles/how-ideology-works

@larrysmith2636 3 жыл бұрын

the "competition and extreme individualism" of those who keep governments in their ever deepening pockets like so many nickels and dimes.

@tylerdurden933 2 жыл бұрын

Any books about this topic?

@strategymarketing1921 3 жыл бұрын

We don't have capitalism per se. We have CAPITAL CORPORATISM. Some say crony capitalism and this is being shown in real time right now in the stock market with hedge funds playing by different rules. Social media will help level the playing field eventually at least that's my hope

@d6wave Жыл бұрын

32:42 it's just like attempting to extinguish a fire with petroleum instead water or sand foam etc.

@catherinecoles8521 3 жыл бұрын

it's not all about us, there are billions of other animals on this planet who value their lives as much as we value ours. The elephant in the room here is animal agriculture, an inconvenient truth at least...

@johnmcnab 2 жыл бұрын

Total respect to this guy he offers solutions as well as being critical of the world we live in .

@Skylark_Jones 2 жыл бұрын

'The Patterning Instinct' by Jeremy Lent

@Skylark_Jones 2 жыл бұрын

Interested to know what he thinks of population growth...We're all caught in the trap of continuous consumption. It's a conditioning that's hard to break out of. The market is what humanity created. Can we not uncreate it by dismantling it? But the political and economic will isn't there: after all, why would those in power want to get rid of something they obtain so much wealth from?

@hadrienhartgers3498 Жыл бұрын

Most people on earth can't consume anything. I don't think population growth is an issue when compared to who owns the wealth and who gets access to the goods.

@jidnyasamulekar 3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to translate this speech in my mother tongue marathi and publish it on a social platform for marathi speaking community across the world with all due credits given to the speaker as well as the KZbin channel? What permissions would I need for this?

@luluurquhart5851 3 жыл бұрын

You can contact LoveitTV Jidnyasa. They have connections with india, or maybe you have your own translator? They will help you. It would be amazing to get this translated into marathi. Warm wishes,

@jidnyasamulekar 3 жыл бұрын

@@luluurquhart5851 thank you so much! I will look up the web but if I can get the official email address for LoveitTV that would be great!

@nickbarton3191 2 жыл бұрын

"Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need." Where can I buy the 3D pancake printer?

@jimilee4660 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it the very real fact that capitalism allows the very rare instance of someone virtually, or literally, winning the lottery what makes capitalism so attractive. The idea of riches beyond one's wildest imaginings attainable somehow without regard to personal character or diligence or excellence in performance, but simply by some financial trick or just the roll of the dice, is an irresistible temptation for too many people.

@oftbanned101 2 жыл бұрын

In reality it is the fraud, the lie, the entirely unrealistic hope of winning the lottery that makes it work. At what point do you see that fraud? eg would you buy a lottery ticket where the whole world's population participated in one lottery? All 8bn of us.. with the odds stacked in favour of a single winner: prize £1bn.. after all the same 'logic' is there: someone has to win: why not me! At what point do thickos see the almost perfect correlation between one in a million chance and impossibility?

@bhante1345 3 жыл бұрын

Was this lecture free?

@iangreenwood7582 2 жыл бұрын

Hi George and readers some rough points below - could they help PostCap and Raworth's movement or be worthwhile to you? We have to STEER it round - all points adjustable.. Love, Ian sorry, been off your feed) Lots of basic stuff by economists "right" but not a lot of work been done explaining Basic Balanced Economics or “Aiming for Steady State” - But Still Adjustable! Where could the world be now if there were alternatives, such as: stainless steel cars with wind-up windows, no built to fail, 4 wheels, an engine or electric drive that one can work on Proper regulation of advertising that helps people make a "right" choice - long-lasting stuff you can see and feel in a Department Store - old-style, one per City. But mainly Adv Standards Regulation against gimmicks, buried falsehoods. Also Budgets for TV and on-line 'counter-advertising' Education including plenty of hand-skill - bookbinding from 8 years old, leather-punch work 9 years old, pushing a needle through at 10 years old, simple woodwork, metal-work, cooking skills. All extended in high school. Tech drawing with a 0.9 mechanical pencil, so more people can easily express themselves, understand and be understood, etc etc Keeping up with the times-tables, addition facts, basic Trigonometry, Physics, electrics, mechanics, Statics (forces) chemistry. The World suddenly becomes full of interest as adults bring up children in awe of stuff around them, multi-skilled. Specialists with Width [global travel only every 10 years, perhaps] of knowledge, work and Experience AND Depth, technical ability HENCE: The following outcomes to create Better-Balanced Economics: 1. From all money creation at least a third To The Public Purse 2. Ring-fenced proportion to Eco-causes including some of the above education 3. Eco-Money to be available at Discounted rates for comprehensive Ultra-Insulation - but needs underfloor Micro-Cellar to warm the ground deep under (extra roof vent to shed surplus summer warmth by overnight 3-storey height airflow) large 2-litre tank useful in contact 3 sides and floor with the earth. Insulate one side and top with 6 inch [150 mm polystyrene. All polystyrene to be self-extinguishing. So 20-year money from commercial banks at 1.5% the 0.5 Returned via bank to libraries and schools for Education. End-of-20-year term fixed payment The money and agreement Cancelled. 4. Working towards a real economy not highly speculative - so ring-fenced Fin services Tax 5. Maybe a Luxuries Tax. These were tried and proven in Australia before, as you say the so-called Freedoms. Yes the freedoms of coops, and a lot of market freedom to work and earn but not to Rip Off could be a good start on the way remembering £1/US$/Euro = 1lb CO2 (0.454kg) 6. End Big bosses expense accounts - effectively tax evasion. Some limits there, and for businesses beyond a certain size end their Vat exemption credits. 7. End wasteful demolition, much of the historic fabric can be retained - sides and rear ultra-insulated retaining "interestingness of Existence" Arnold Bennett [Old Wives Tale, etc.] 8. in other words BALANCING THE ANGLO-AMERICAN SYSTEM, esp finances [see Richard Werner on money, Japanese "crash" and central banks role; see Money as Debt puts it plainly]. But as Monbiot says Much More thinking is Needed. 9. AIM FOR INTEREST RATES on Deposits regulated - Fairness in Finance, say 0.5% by September 2021, 1% by December 2021, 2% by December 2022, 3% by December 2023 making it easy to remember. Possibly Base rates the same as Deposits on all except Eco-Money (recognising most of the inflation is via money-creation itself which is Yet to be Charged for, unless base rate can be Collected on all new money) 10 all the above, I am amazed the academics including Keynes didn't work it out, but maybe they did not get the handskill and later building design skill and TIME OVERSEAS in humble occupations to see it hands-on FINALLY: 11. ECO-TAX justifiable on the resale profits in the wealthy countries again Ring-Fenced but this time HALF THE DOLLAR VALUE RETURNED TO POORER COUNTRIES for their Eco-Means, Solar, Sea Barrage Barriers, etc (eg Bengal Bay 'Freshwater Bay' (eventually) Barrage CHEERS to all your readers, Could that all be just a good Start, all Adjustable, but a start? PS can you help get VAT removed from Insulation - it should be Zero-Rated

@rickrivethead Жыл бұрын

We are ALL stuck in a rut!!!

@philsophkenny 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@stephankyle6460 3 жыл бұрын

Where can I get one of those spider proof sheds? Asking for a friend.

@alexcarter8807 3 жыл бұрын

Aw, why be so mean to spideys? They're cute.

@carlroberts5933 3 жыл бұрын

Intention. Is. To. Create. A. Ideology. Must. Have a proceeded. And. How. You proceed. To. Create

@LOVEITTVclips 3 жыл бұрын

@talstory Жыл бұрын

we all agree with this..he's preaching to the choir..but how to translate it into a government decree??

@Onkarr 3 жыл бұрын

28:33 Amen to that. who enjoys working for the sake of working to pay bills in order to survive?

@InTenMinutes1 2 жыл бұрын

Humans. If you weren't working towards something, you will very quickly become depressed. Why do you think most rich people still work endlessly? At no point in human history have we not been working for survival.

@larrysmith2636 3 жыл бұрын

it's a monopoly game. right, wrong or indifferent; whether by design, defect or default; winner take all. survival of the fittest determined by those who, for all intents and purposes, have monopoly on the use of force and violence.

@TheVFXbyArt 3 жыл бұрын

29:40 Great descriptors of neoliberalism 40:00 Book “Patterning insrict” by jeremy lent

@dystopiaahoy 2 жыл бұрын

Could it be that socialism suffers from intellectual overreach, everyone gets something but what about responsibilities, what about ability? What might actually work is something like the society described in Huxley’s Brave New World.

@jameshunt8373 3 жыл бұрын

How much did this show cost to watch?

@TheBrutalDeluxe 3 жыл бұрын

"Please choose the ticket price that you can afford. If you want to watch the live stream with family and friends we recommend £15 minimum. " Ticket prices: £5 - £25 And your point is?

@jameshunt8373 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBrutalDeluxe lovely bit of capital.

@strangelysaucy 3 жыл бұрын

@@jameshunt8373 it’s free now tho ;)

@jameshunt8373 3 жыл бұрын

@@strangelysaucy my internet provider says otherwise

@littlejay42 2 жыл бұрын

SCPA215 representing ✔

@nealtauss1715 3 жыл бұрын

As regards CO2 accumulation.... anything beyond surfeit can be a pollutant.... we're looking at a question of balance.... excess CO2 is not taken up by plants that are not allowed to exist.... and our current Agricultural and Industrial Methods are disruptive in the EXTREME.... for Natural Nurture FROM plant growth..... around the World. At the Same time we started hyper-injecting fossilized carbon into our atmosphere.... we began proliferating Iron Plow Tillage.... agriculturally disrupting photo-synthetic carbon sequestration.... effectively Doubling the Damage....at LEAST. We MIGHT be able to turn THAT around faster than anything else we CAN do.... EXPONENTIALLY increasing Soil Carbon Retention by adopting all-around no-till organic agricultural methods.... MANY beneficial Societal effects here... MO' Bettah Food&Health/Mo' Bettah Money (at the GROUND-level.... where LongGREENMoney makes Mo' Bettah Benefits in a bubble-UP ECOnomic model) & LESS+LESS money for the Manufacturers of Agri-Toxins.... where Mo' Money makes BUT Mo' Profit$forPoi$on$ and LITTLE el$e.... (be$ide$ Profit$ for Political Power in Proliferation of Popular Pain AND Penury).... and THERE'$ your trouble.... NOW we know why it's so hard to even TALK about making beneficial changes much less understand root Need for So doing AND....Root Cau$e for NOT. Go ahead.... Wave your magic Wand.... even WITHOUT climate crisis.... these agri-poison$ cause Air/Water/Food AND Health Pollution.... so IF you should find yourselves mentally incapable of grasping a WIDER Scope for this Impending Horror... understand clearly NOW.... that carcinogenic and other-wise Toxic agri-chemical residues are CURRENTLY doing to your body&being what the manufacturers of those chemicals are doing to all Life IN and ON Earth. It is Time to Change.... not just how we generate and use our energy (Roof-topSolarW/BatteryBack-upNOnukes) but how we grow the very food we eat....and in So doing we can.... in all likelihood.... RESOLVE our Climate AND Pollution PROBLEMS.... in REAL Time.

@blackfang3000 3 жыл бұрын

#BootlegDVD must Go Mainstream!

@IgorGjurovski 3 жыл бұрын

200 years growth or 2000?

@REVOLUTIONREVEALS 3 жыл бұрын

Capital relates largely to imaginary truths.

@JohnSmith-vm8rx 9 ай бұрын

I don’t understand what the point of saying he isn’t a communist. Why say that? How does that forward the conversation or help his argument? It was probably a way to appeal to the less radical like many neoliberals do but why make the appeal when you are now creating a wedge between the radical and less radical from the start.