GEORGIA BULLDOGS: IS KIRBY SMART TO BLAME FOR THE UGA QUARTERBACK PROBLEMS?

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[@apierre6]

I prefer these quieter, more analytical based videos. I'd like to see more of these One point of clarification: Jacob Eason was drafted in the fourth round, not the second round. I do agree with many of the points you're making. According to 247 we have the most talented roster in the country and the fact that we have a walk-on QB speaks to poor development at that position and roster management. There's no way that Georgia would accept a walk-on linebacker starting, why should we accept a walk-on starting at the most important position on the field?

[@RJ-ox8on]

I agree. A smart, thought out analysis like this is what I'm looking for--I appreciate it. Too many people just scrape the surface and focus on personality

[@JrJrUniversity]

He still was drafted before trash behind Fromm lol

[@ThemindofOZIII]

@@JrJrUniversity Aand still got outplayed in college by Fromm.

[@SapienSafari]

You are super logical. Love it. This Tennessee fan is a new subscriber.

[@luscreen]

Still pissed that we had Justin Fields and he hardly played.

[@Trimmxthy]

I will never let that go 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@coachdudesportstv]

Let him win a championship then be mad it's not like he went 15-0 last year Kirby just needs to pull a Nick and get out the offence way

[@sethstine4698]

Lou agreed with Kirby about using Jake Fromm instead of Justin Fields. Just watch his 2018 UGA preview Watch "GEORGIA BULLDOGS TEAM PREVIEW 2018 COLLEGE FOOTBALL" on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqK7n3qGbrWDY6c

[@sethstine4698]

Start the video at 17:12

[@adammauer4992]

Can recruit all the talent in the world but can’t develop a qb 😂

[@AlbertTheGator]

Very Muschamp like tbh.

[@AlbertTheGator]

Kirby is a bit better than Champ but as far as devoloping QBs and having lifeless offenses year-after-year... Yeah, it's very similar to one William Muschamp.

[@bonkcaesar9849]

@@RumoursOfFamine Naw it calls out Kirby Smart's good ole boy system at UGA...Bo way in hell Fromm should have started over J. Fields

[@hibro1775]

Facts

[@illusionallsponge9479]

@@bonkcaesar9849 so you start a true freshman that's never played a down in the SEC over a quarterback that took you to the national championship game and played fantastic. Won the Rose Bowl over a great oklahoma team and went to 3 SEC championships and won 1. Anybody that watched Fields and thought he should've started over Fromm, should never be allowed to make another comment about football. Fields, I believe would've won the starting job the next season, but he tucked tail and ran.

[@racktown1157]

As a Auburn fan, I feel the pain. It's my observation that when Kirby start at UGA, he tried to copy the Alabama system that worked successful for years with just run first, game managing QB's, but none to prolific. Saban made the change for a reason.

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

“There is no plan” -Kirby Smart “Rings collect dust” -Mark Richt Dumb statements made by great coaches.

[@JunkYardDawg-kw8db]

Just Let Todd Monken Do his job by gawd

[@TheReal_G]

When it comes to offense, Kirby has no idea. Which is mind blowing. Cause he can stop damn near any offense he coaches against.

[@bairdbiz]

Justin Fields would have Georgia in the playoffs last year. Justin Fields would have Georgia in the playoffs this year.

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Truth

[@RogerThat902]

It's gotta make all the UGA fans that argued with us about Fields sick these days. If Fields is at UGA this year we are the heavy favorites to win it all and I don't even think many people would debate that.

[@andrewp4666]

Roger That would’ve won last year. Well we wouldve atleast competed with LSU. LSU was insane last year but with JF 2019 UGA is just as good if not better.

[@jasonbray7862]

Only problem is his At Ohio state because of his dad ! Facts mattet

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Jason Bray if Smart had done for Fields what Saban did for Tua, (bench the “good” starter for the obviously more talented freshman) Fields would not have transferred.

[@johnnyfootball3421]

Kyle Trask wasn't even the starter in high school. Baker Mayfield was a walk on. Jacob Eason had great size, just like Mathis, but was inaccurate throwing the ball at UGA.

[@carolynkemp9666]

Give Carson, Florida’s Mr Football and let him show what he can do!!!

[@hunternixonfishing2500]

Although I liked Fromm better than most UGA fans I will agree he fumbled the ball on the Fields/Fromm situation. I never was an Eason fan so I think Fromm was better than Eason in UGAs situation. But short answer yes Kirby hasn’t handled the QB situation the best if you look at Fields and Trevor Lawrence he had both in the palm of his hand and I will say both those QBs are better than Fromm

[@ecole146]

Can't really answer the who's fault question without truly knowing why Newman opted out. In 2017 and 2019 I think we made the best decision with what we had. The biggest mistake came in 2018 when we didn't give Fields a chance to shine. But, in 2018, Fromm really only had one game where he played poorly and the offense was scoring well. Hell, we came super close to beating 2018 Alabama who was hyped to be the greatest team ever at the time. The problem was Fromm had too much of a pedigree in 2018 for Kirby to consider benching him, and after his performance in the SECCG Fields realized that he probably wasn't going to win the job. However I think that had he stuck around he would have started in 2019, because Fromm was an entirely different QB when it was on him to make throws, instead of it being on the WR to make catches. The rest is history. Fast forward to now. All off season we've been excited about a new QB with running ability, a new OC, etc, and 2 weeks before the start of the season, Newman opts out. Daniels is still in the final recovery from an injury, and so Mathis starts. And unlike Fromm, Mathis experiences what many new SEC QBs face and has jitters. Bennett goes in because he got all the #2 reps last year, he's been healthy the whole time, and he knows the system. I think overall we need to pump the brakes on the blame game, because a lot of these events aren't necessarily the fault of any one person. However, who we start this week, and how they perform is very, very important. I was happy to see changes to our offensive scheme at halftime against Arkansas, but we need to score early and often if we're going to compete for the title again.

[@Harelston]

It is hard to find a reasoned take on this topic, Kudos for a very reasoned and common sense take. The whole "who is to blame thing" is not the best approach to finding solutions about Georgia's quarterback position. Sometimes things have to fall a little lucky to get the championship type season. All you have to do is look at LSU right now. Look at them before and after Brady and Burrow. LSU has a transfer quarterback come in and solidify a shaky position Then a year later a coach came in with total new scheme concepts and it became an unbeatable formula last year. Orgeron made a couple key decisions and he will forever be celebrated for it. Kirby has in reality has had ONE quarterback with elite skills. When this quarterback was here he had no "brilliant mind" coach to provide him with a game changing system. Consequently when his playing opportunities presented themselves all we ever saw from him in limited chances was raw abilities and potential. For those who say well that is Kirby's fault that he didn't hire a "brilliant mind" coach let me offer one simple defense on Kirby's behalf. If there were that many easily found "brilliant" difference maker coaches... then Orgeron would not have started this season 0 and 1. Coaches like that are not easily located. And if you do find him he may not be available to hire. I would be willing to be harder on Kirby if he were a long time head coach in college football. Kirby has not been perfect true enough but he is not been at all lucky at the same time either. One thing all Bulldog fans should be glad about is that he is willing to change and even accept a different offensive philosophy than what he was most comfortable with. I don't share much of Lou's take because most of the comparisons are apples to oranges. I watched some Washington games and Eason was not significantly better there . He was drafted higher based on prototype measurables and not production or team success. Eason's college career was nothing special . Too much emphasis is placed on recruiting rankings in Lou's assessment of what Georgia has had available at quarterback. Kirby has a few seasons under his belt now. If you want to be fair give him that he has managed to at least have respectable quarterback play that would have won a championship... but for two defensive players that went totally brain dead at the worst possible time.

[@RogerThat902]

Disagree. There was no reason to just insert Fields over Fromm until Fromm/offense played poorly. That game came vs. LSU when Fromm looked like Mathis did this past week. I'd say worse even. Fromm didn't have a million penalties negating all his good plays. And Mathis didn't miss multiple TDs w/ poor throws. THAT was the game to put Fields in if he had any shot of winning the job. When the whole world could see Fromm melting down and Kirby doesn't at least go "Let me just see what my 5star backup can do" that was the sign to everyone and most importantly Fields that it wasn't a winnable job. Fromm defenders who have egg on their face now that they see how good Fields is say "trust us, Fields would have started in 2019 if he just waited" are basing that on nothing. We all saw Fromm play poorly and yet no Fields. Even before the LSU game Fields came in and provided a spark that got the offense going because of the zone read threat. Kirby put his affection for Fromm above the team (rumor is Fromm's parents complained to Kirby about what they were doing w/ Fields). Kirby blew it. If this team has Justin Fields right now we are the number 1 team in the nation and it's not close.

[@foxbodyblues6709]

As an Ohio St fan, this sounds very familiar: C. Jones 2014 won the Natty J. Burrow 2015-2018 - 1st rd pick D. Haskins 2016-2018 - 1st rd pick But who was the starter 2014-2017 that kept all these guys on the bench? (undrafted) JT Barrett

[@dr.philsanchez6926]

Kirby's fault.

[@mrbaldwin8658]

When Justin Fields got to Ohio State, Ryan Day said dude needed A LOT of work!!! That told me right there that Georgia doesn't develop it's QBs.... SMH

[@SteeleProductions5]

And that’s why we were gonna start an already developed qb in Jamie Newman but of course that didn’t pan out

[@mrbaldwin8658]

@@SteeleProductions5 I'm a Buckeyes fan and a general fan of college football... I've been wringing my hands watching Fromm regress from afar because I knew Georgia had WAY too much talent around him. I'm beginning to think that the Newman kid saw the writing on the wall and got the hell outta there, TBH.... SMH

[@johnnyfootball3421]

Stetson Bennett was better than okay. He was tied with Kyle Trask for 5th in the nation in QB rating by pro football focus last week. Your biggest complaint about Jake Fromm was he couldn't win a game with his arm when Georgia couldn't run the ball and he couldn't run. Georgia's running game was shutdown and Stetson came into the game and performed great with his arm and legs. Georgia outscored Arkansas 32-3 with him in the game.

[@tylerp5459]

Remember when Fromm was 5-18 vs LSU in 2018? Yeah he kept him in over Fields.... smh.

[@CameronMerrill-vz1qj]

AMEN

[@tylerp5459]

Cameron Merrill makes me fucking sad as hell.

[@CameronMerrill-vz1qj]

@@tylerp5459 same here. Fields wasnt given a chance even when fromm was failing

[@xeverlastingxchaosx9679]

I said that all before the LSU game to start Fields in 2018..All the Fromm bots said come on man... he's not ready.

[@foxbodyblues6709]

Fromm was living on the fumes of 2017 Chubb and Michele

[@adamwarren1550]

I think Kirby is finally open to giving our OCs the entire control of the offense. He just waited to long, and now there’s a good chance his first year doing that will be with stetson bennett. Could’ve had this with eason, fromm, or fields in the past few years if he would’ve done this sooner

[@chedricholton4923]

Kirby has been the les miles of the sec the past few years

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

The biggest indictment against Kirby is the fact that the best 2 QB’s he’s had...both have transferred out (Eason/Fields)...because he picked another guy! Hold tight UGA fans...keep supporting Kirby, but don’t forget this.

[@barrypitts6091]

Pat Trammel was Bear Bryant’s favorite player. Bear said “he can’t run and he can’t pass, all he can do is win.” As long as you’re winning don’t complain.

[@crazyunclelou]

Bear was winning natties.

[@barrypitts6091]

My point is, Trammel wasn’t the most talented player, but he provided leadership. That’s what is needed at quarterback, a leader.

[@barrypitts6091]

Jake Coker is another example. He had the respect of the other players. He was not flashy.

[@barrypitts6091]

Personally I would start Bennet. He provided you with a win. Forget blaming Kirby Smart, someone needs to take control on the field.

[@dr.philsanchez6926]

Uncle "Everybody wanted Dwan Mathis" Lou 😂☠️

[@xeverlastingxchaosx9679]

You can make a solid case for him being the main problem. Good take Lou!

[@wdfgamingnetwork]

He had a plan for the QBs since day one. It just so happen that Justin Fields didn't want to wait a year behind Fromm to take over the starting job. So, he had to do what he had to do. Got Jamie Newman and JT Daniels. Jamie Newman opted out, now we got Dwan, The Mailman, JT Daniels and Carson Beck. The problem with QBs is if they don't get starting time they run to the next school.

[@wdfgamingnetwork]

And also, Kirby isn't a QB coach. He IS a young coach and he's relying on other offensive minds to develop his offense.

[@CoachEgg]

UGA doesn't have a QB problem. They've got a 5 star and 2 4 stars in the room, plus a guy who just went 20 for 29.

[@sethwooddell5277]

You're exactly right

[@Lukeijob]

did you watch the game?

[@jamelbrown5296]

Shit me stars don’t mean shit Kirby needs some body just to find quality quarterback

[@23beamon]

Holy hell.

[@kyleighsantiochhighschools7060]

Lol he said they don’t have a qb problem. Curious to what qb u seen on that field that was going to lead y’all to a championship?

[@billybob4886]

We better game plan good this week or auburn gonna smoke us!!

[@adamwarren1550]

short answer: yes long answer: hell yeah he is

[@zxcibe5744]

Appreciate Fromm but he is not a big time player. He got lucky to be drafted. He got lucky to not be cut from Bills roster.

[@JrJrUniversity]

Well said

[@ThemindofOZIII]

A whole lot of luck going on there.

[@wjwwillow]

As a BAMA fan, let me say this.... We LOVE Kirby. And miss him. He's one of a VERY SMALL group that still receives a lot of love, when he steps foot into T-Town. Coaches departed, that is(Lane is yet to be seen). Never the less, he COULD NOT STOP mobile QBs. Doubt me? Look at who plagued(beat) us under Kirby? Tebow. Manziel. Kelly. Cam. Etc. This is what it takes to beat Bama. You must be multi-dimensional. Able to extend plays in/out of the pocket. And above all, we have to be forced to respect the deep ball. You ain't gotta hit them all.... But we have to at least believe you can do it! Why does any of this matter? Well, based on the ongoing problems under center? I'd say it matters. And I'm simply drawing the correlation that Kirby wasn't ever great at locking in on QBs. On EITHER side of things. Saban, being the HC, of course was the one who wore that crown(trouble w/dual threat QBs). However, it hasn't been an issue since Kirby's departure. Sure, we haven't seen many Manziel(s) or Cam(s) since, but we have indeed seen traces of them. All were SHUT DOWN! And let's be realistic, it hasn't been from stellar defense, either. Bama has definitely taken a hit in our overall defensive standing since Smart left. No doubt!!! Basically, my point? I think he struggles when dissecting QBs. Both pinpointing their shortcomings and finding their strengths. Thus, making it very hard to find the one single most important quality in your P1 guy.... Leadership!!! After Bama's back to back halftime QB change up? And Georgia didn't prance Fields onto that.... Well, field? I think it caused a rift. Both in the huddle and the locker room. I hate to say it, but as an across the conference fan? There seems to be some piss poor QB decisions going down in Athens. And I get it, w/the new transfer rules? It's NOT easy having options. Hell, Bama will lose another shortly. We will. Maybe Bryce, but doubtful. We lost Talia! Happens, I get it. At this point, whatever Kirby thinks is the right answer? I may go the opposite. We all LOVED Jalen, but was still the right decision. I'm sure Dabo loved Bryant, but again.... The right decision. I'm not sure I can co-sign on Kirb's QB calls! Just my two cents. Hope everyone is well in the @UncleLou household. Be safe. W -

[@ncgruntdiggers]

Jamie Newman was Ga's best qb ever. He never lost a game...lol

[@SS11660]

Why did he leave? Was it obvious from kirby that wasnt going to play him????

[@ohtaylor5]

It's Smart fault only because he picked the offensive coordinator. This often happens with defensive minded coaches. Muschamp had elite defenses in Florida but he couldn't field a competent offense. For years Saban mainly won with defense until they hired innovative offensive minds. The same was true with LSU. I don't think Smart is intentionally sabotaging the offense any more than Muschamp, Saban or Miles. However, when you get in the middle of a close game you tend to play to your strengths and at UGA that means playing to your defense. Clearly Smart picked the wrong QB between Eason, Fromm and Fields. You live and learn. If he had a do over Fromm's butt would be on the bench the day Fields stepped on campus. Smart still has some growing pains to go through as a HC, but he's on the fast track to being elite. Dabo (an offensive coach )didn't become "Dabo" until he found Brent Venables. Dawgs just need to find the offensive version of Venables. These are first world problems though. I won't shed one tear for the Dawgs. Go Gamecocks!

[@Ashley_e]

this is such a NEEDED convo to have thank you. it's divisive but sane fans should be able to really talk this out. And to make it fair...what would Jake be had he gone elsewhere, as well. . . right? 2019 jake might not have existed. i struggled with Jake's 2019 year, that he spent 24/7 training and teaching everyone... kids...newbies...forming new offense. And kirby put so much on jake due to his leadership strength... that nobody was checking Jake. who was coaching Jake>? He drained himself to raise those kids that season, and why did he not have help? No not Coley. ps i did feel 2018 SEC championship he played a hell of a game.

[@joedischer3845]

All I hear was 100% FACTS this video Lou

[@tristanj9245]

Brutal honesty. Some folks need to hear it. I thought your argument was well thought out and expertly explained. Some of us have thought this was blatantly obvious a couple of years ago but we quickly found out, to our embarrassment, that we may have been in the minority.

[@rzaindis]

For some reason I enjoyed seeing the wood desk/mantle (garage mode) behind Lou while speaking. Great video, chucked full of content - wish he’d do one objectively observing UF

[@papersender333]

First off Lou, love the content keep it up. I will agree with you Kirby fumbled the Fromm/Fields situation. But Jake Fromm and Dwan Mathis should not be looked at as elite prospects. Tate Martell was a five-star prospect. Did Ohio State not develop him? Sometimes prospects are just overrated out of high school. Especially quarterbacks.

[@livingadreamlife1428]

6 guys in 5 years with several of those having success is enough to question the developmental aspects of the program. QB Recruits will look at that issue, why wouldn’t we?

[@RogerThat902]

Fromm was a 5 star in some places, might even have been Rivals. And Martell never got the chance to play because they went from Heisman finalist to Heisman finalist with Fields. All we know is Ohio State thought Justin Fields was better than Tate Martell and they made the swap. Btw, Fields > Martell is how the rankings had them so all we can say is Ohio State had the chance to upgrade their 5 star and did it. If anything that should send chills up every UGA fan's spine. Ohio State was so convinced Fields was a star they chose trade in a 5 star and UGA current starting QB for him. Isn't that the biggest indictment of Kirby's QB decisions there is?

[@livingadreamlife1428]

Roger That If you look at the facts and results as presented, you’d have to question Kirby’s QB evaluation and QB development skills. He has consistently mis-judged guys and all depart with their skills either worse or same as when they arrived. Then, when they land elsewhere Fields and Eason greatly improved their skills. WTF?

[@rockeyracoon3716]

When QB’s get to UGA and realize they will be handing the ball off 40 times a game they start saying “blue 42, Seeeeett, PORTAL. I mean HIKE!

[@kaiseredmond]

This is what Muschamp did at FLA. #1 QB Brantley --> #1 QB Jeff Driskel --> #3 DT QB Will Grier (Redshirted) Not saying Kirby is Muschamp but the lack of QB development with lights out DEF is a familiar pattern.

[@RogerThat902]

Agreed. The one thing that may have saved these comparisons sooner is Kirby has had good offenses, it just so happens it was because of elite RBs...

[@SR-vq9jn]

@@RogerThat902 RB's are gone with the O Line too. This will be a fun season.

[@keenanrivers1142]

As a gator fan I find this very interesting can’t say that I watched a lot of Georgia football to make my own informed decision I do know that trotting our bennit with a straight face is not the way to go if you wanna beat Florida

[@wireroom7939]

U may not watch a lot of uga games cool.. But 2 be on here to see what lou is talking bout SURE DOES HAVE YOUR ATTENTION!! we own yall & kirby dont like mullen He wont allow us to lose to yall Come back to this post after we play each other..

[@braddavis4472]

I hope for once you unappreciative don't have a legit qb that keeps yall in games, Georgia has had a serviceable qb for the last 5 or 6 years, and I don't think yall own us , just because we have not a qb that is good enough when we play , shoes on the other foot now jack.. lol, don't worry im sure Kirby can figure it out!

[@keenanrivers1142]

Jarvis Weaver each time we played Kirby Florida has improved I will be the first to admit that Florida hasn’t had success against Georgia as of late can you realize that Kirby also has allowed the offense to get to where it is idc how good of an defense you have you need an offense to beat top 10 teams take it from me we had Muschamp as a coach

[@tylerelliott1235]

@@keenanrivers1142 thank youn ga dont understand that being a Florida fan ik that

[@donniewilkerson6789]

Lol 🤣 ❤️🖤

[@sethstine4698]

"Its ok to critisize someone if you think they deserve it" -Uncle Lou. I couldn't agree more (when are you going to rock your BLM shirt again?)

[@dlong3468]

I think Kirby’s hands on philosophy is his greatest asset and biggest flaw. Defensively, which is his wheelhouse, he’s able to coach kids up and maximize their potential. Offensively, I think he’s created a lot of square peg round hole scenarios, especially at the skill positions. As noted, Eason and Fields got better once they left, on the flip side.... DRob got way worse once he got to UGA. When Kirby took the job, he said he would not shoehorn talent into a specific offense but that’s in fact exactly what he’s tried to do

[@DanielMacris1]

You bring up good points, Lou. I share your frustration with the lack of qb competition for fields, eason, vs fromm. It's easy to panic from that 1st half, but it's too early to panic. Kirby has only had 1 qb that he committed too. He made the wrong choice between fromm, eason and fields. Hopefully he makes the right choice this time. Ihdk which is the right choice. I think we'll have our answer in a month. Let's stay calm and trust the process for 3 more games. If we look like shit, I'll bring torches and pitchforks to your live cast for us

[@Gopherll]

Mathis wasn't a highly rated 4 star. He was .90 thats barely above 3 star

[@shakimu]

Mathis was still recruited by a lot of Power 5 schools, but you are correct about his rating.

[@scottyjoe22]

Firstly, I would blame Uncle Lou, then blame Nick Saben, then blame the UGA football boosters, the UGA Athletic director, and everybody else in the state of Georgia. Go Gators!

[@SoloSoStussy23]

UNCLE LOUUUUU, them dogs gone be barkin and biting today i feel a georgia win and cover

[@teddybroosevelt6826]

Is uncle lou to blame for all the god damn ads in this video. Love ya lou. GO DAWGS

[@2229lionman]

Similar to finding the issue with a pro sports team, where if it's not the player, it's the coach, if it's not the coach, it's the GM, if it's not the GM, it's the owner(s). Same applies here in solving the QB situation. If it's not the player (proven that it's not because former players have gone on to play well at QB like you pointed out), it's the position coach (also proven that that's not the consistency because UGA is still having that issue), if it's not the position coach, it's the head coach. That's where we're at right now. How do we get a micro-manager to not micro-manage? That's Kirby's specific problem. He won't let the QB free to flourish and grow. Look at the musical chairs fiasco with Fields in 2018 for proof.

[@sengvang3718]

UGA is that one team that is stacked and just needs to good QB to win it all. Always a bridesmaid but never a bride, the story of Georgia sports.

[@jackperkins9836]

Kirby’s philosophy is for the defense to win him games. The offense’s job, kinda like you said, is “not to mess up” and manage the game. Basically what Saban’s offenses were before the Tua revolution: incredible efficient run game and a QB who was “good enough” and didn’t make mistakes. McElroy, McCarron, Coker, and even Hurts never had impressive numbers at alabama but they didn’t make mistakes and managed the game. Fields and Eason did better in other offenses because, well, they were allowed to. Kirby doesn’t want someone flashy or a QB who “can win you games” because he believes that’s the responsibility of the Defense. Also (as a lifelong florida fan) the situation w the transfers does remind me of some of our horror shows pre-Mullen who lit it up as soon as they left. Driskel and Brissett were both QBs under a muschamp offense and were almost unwatchable. Then they leave that scheme and boom they put up amazing numbers somewhere else and they’ve both started games in the NFL. So I don’t think it’s that these Georgia quarterbacks have been coached or developed poorly. The problem is Kirby’s philosophy and winning formula. I bet if you had put Joe Burrow in Jake fromms spot last year in the UGA team, their numbers would’ve been pretty similar, certainly a far cry from his numbers in a system that plays to his strengths and prioritizes QB play. I will admit I am a bit surprised that too QB recruits still look favorably on UGA under Kirby. Obv athens is a fun place and you’re gonna win a good amount of games at UGA, and in the case of vandagriff he’s a dawg fan who will be basically playing in his backyard. But at some point qb recruits are gonna shy away just like they did from Florida up until very recently

[@JamesAllen-im6eq]

Excellent analysis from a fair, homer fan. Fields is the answer. Kirby does'nt think like a quarterback. Ryan Day does. As a former qb himself, he knows what it takes for a qb to succeed. Day wants Ohio State to be an elite quarterback destination with a development reputation. Kirby's achilles heel will always be the qb. Because of its awesome talent, UGA will always win games. More problematic, though, will be future recruiting. Day knows the mental and phyical assets he needs for that position. It's not just the stars rating. Kirby, for now, gets the stars, but isn't as astute at the position as they are when he uses them on the field.

[@olcaptain4491]

Nothing but truth spoken here. I agree with what you said Lou . I back Kirby but time to let ego go and let his coaches coach. We will not win a natty if qb’s are not developed to an elite level.

[@sadhvacman7238]

Legitimate question. Legit answer: Yes Kirby is doing something that has our offense stuck in neutral.

[@sirbigguccichat2491]

Preach brother, preach

[@MargauxKim_13]

What's up Uncle Lou??? I enjoy your channel. Thanks for being out there and sharing. I'm an OSU BUCKEYE so I don't watch much SEC. BUT, of COURSE it's KIRBY'S FAULT.

[@CameronMerrill-vz1qj]

georgia fans dont ever want to ask hard questions

[@CameronMerrill-vz1qj]

@@jakedoessports4245 i do.

[@CameronMerrill-vz1qj]

@@jakedoessports4245 i know

[@mikejo325]

Kind of reminds me of good ol Mark Richt😂😂😂...close, but no cigar!

[@trickshotfamily]

UGA hasn't had a star QB since Stafford.

[@crazyunclelou]

Murray

[@BrianKorth-nu7gw]

I’m a Florida fan and I think Kirby is a good coach. It’s probably a lot harder to line up star quarterbacks than any of us know. Plus he couldn’t predict what happened this season.

[@SapienSafari]

I like your takes. Go Vols!

[@tiphutcherson7407]

Eason was better than fromm he should have never lost starting job because of a injury

[@1972mrkleen]

I agree, Eason was clearly a better passer especially on deep routes

[@Shepard115]

Yeah cause overthrows and not being able to read a defense are the keys to winning

[@1972mrkleen]

@@Shepard115 reading defenses can be learned, natural ability can't. GA. Had it's best receiving Corp in 2017 & 2018 that I've ever seen & it was squandering because the only way Fromm could get the ball more than 20 yards down field would be to send it UPS. So I suppose you're right, he didn't over throw receivers, cause he couldn't

[@emilyward2612]

You are out of your mind. Eason was terrible.

[@SteeleProductions5]

Yes it’s his fault I don’t know how he does it but he seems to ruin every good quarterback that comes to Georgia

[@629131]

Lmfao how ? He cant control that jt is hurt and he didnt know how dwan was gunna play

[@SteeleProductions5]

I’m not talking about his decision to start dwan I just mean in general

[@JMtimes-we9gm]

@@629131 You dont think a head coach should have an idea about how his starting QB is going to play?🤔

[@joshmoses9062]

He doesn't ruin them... He just know wtf he's doing on that side of the ball... That's why Dan Mullen is going to put his nuts on Kirby's face from here on out.

[@williamwhitfield6225]

Josh Moses Except Dan Mullen has no idea what he’s doing on defense and you have Grantham as a coordinator. Good luck with that lol

[@glenarnsdorff8515]

We need to hire a qb whisperer... 🤓 I am right there with you Lou

[@SR-vq9jn]

I thought Monken was the next Brady, isn't this his job, a qb whisperer?

[@billysimmons2887]

I just hope it works out for the dogs this year I'm a really big Georgia fan and I wish them all the best mr. Simmons

[@clemsontigerfan2679]

And you didn't even mention getting beat out in recruiting for 2 of the best qbs ever to come out of Georgia in Deshaun Watson, and Trevor Lawrence in just the past 6ish years. Not saying this to make fun just adding to the topic. Imagine Georgia now with one of those or a Matt Stafford shoot I feel like yall win multiple nattys with an Aaron Murray. I always thought Murray was a great QB. Maybe not quite Trevor/Deshaun/Stafford but pretty close.

[@wireroom7939]

Who eva u r ... 💯 What coulda been wit TL🤦‍♂️ BUT HEY YALL GOT HIM and hope yall can win another meanwhile uga jus gotta b betta offense

[@janesmith4017]

Clemson will reap the benefit as UGA becomes known as the program where 5 star QB's go to be extinguished.

[@theultimatetater2589]

I think Georgia needs a new QB coach as well

[@knockdowncity8976]

I've been a UGA fan my entire life. I had a conversation with a friend of mine, (UF fan,) earlier. I asked the same question. I too am a Kirby Smart supporter. I don't believe in trashing coaches or players, especially my favorite team! I want them to do well!! But, at some point, some tough questions need to be asked. Uncle Lou just asked. What's the answer?

[@G4G_Eli]

Don’t get to down about the Qb situation, Kevin sumlin made 3 5 star quarterbacks in a row transfer in like a 6 month span at A&M, not to mention ruined that Arizona qbs career

[@RogerThat902]

Kevin Sumlin may not have had the best QB, but he ALWAYS got major production out of the QBs he had. So even there it's completely different than what UGA is dealing with. Sumlin's problem was not QB, it was defense.

[@jrockmedia5866]

Kirby does need to get it figured out, but I think yall will be fine. Can't wait for the Carolina/Georgia game this year at Williams Brice. Know they itching to get back at my Gamecocks for last year's game lol Good dissection of the topic man.

[@lynnm40511]

Buckeyes are really lucky to have Ryan Day. He’s a QB guru. He coached the position in the NFL and played QB in college. Buckeyes new QB Coach is Urban’s son-in-law as was trained by Day.

[@jamiestein1161]

Monken was hired for a reason to make a change to this boring conservative offense we have been running since the '80s. Just look at Todd Monkens past at Oklahoma State, and the Buccaneers all first or top 5 in PPG, YPG, etc. Monken's past speaks for himself let him do his thing we hired him for a reason and I hope Kirby knows that, this video needs more recognition. Georgia has all the talent in the world and we can put it all together the one piece we have been missing for a while is a QB who fits our offense and is well-coached throughout the year.

[@BlakeStanley-qe1bv]

Whose here after stenson Bennett goes back to back and Carson beck goes u defeated in the regular season

[@LostAggie]

He is the Head Coach so he should responsible for not only recruiting 4&5 Star players but using them to be successful and Update the UGA Offense. He hired the Oc's and the UGA Fanbase should not blame the OC's. Other SEC Teams HC's accept all the Blame for no success on the field. Saban, Orgeron and Jimbo say that when they lose it's not the fault of the OC but the HeadCoach,

[@jamieharper1051]

I’m a Syracuse University football fan I wish we could recruit even 1/5th the talent that UGA recruits . We could take UGA worst QB on the roster and that guy would instantly be the best player on our squad

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

If UGA gets the QB position right they will win a National Title. As a Miami fan I was told for the last 2 years that QB isn’t the problem...D’Eriq King comes to town along with Lashlee and Miami looks like a different program. Eventually Kirby will get out if the offenses’ way and UGA will take off toward a title. UGA has been too great for too long not to win a title and the fanbase deserves a title.

[@Ashley_e]

so the chairs are pretty fucking great ps i love stetson. he helped so much Rose Bowl. Been with us so long, love that experience, he has confidence.

[@herbertbradford9579]

I think your right, but as long as your winning it shouldn’t be a problem. But you loose a big game and the support will start to weaken. Your by talking about it. Your doing your fans right.

[@rocksjoshua]

As a Gator fan, I think Kirby is a good head coach, but he seriously needs to put better people around him to run the offense. The offensive coordinator and offensive play callers just ain’t cutting it for the amount of talent UGA has. Not knocking Kirby, but I think he is to blame to an extent. I’ve said this for about 3 years now, and i know UGA fans ain’t gonna like this, but if Dan Mullen had the amount of talent UGA has, I think he would’ve won at least 1 National Championship. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, I like Kirby as a coach and a person, but he needs to be held responsible to a certain degree. There’s no excuse when your pulling in 5 star QBs left and right, and also great amount of talent surrounding the QB

[@jpate89]

Dude, NO OTHER COACH would have done anything different with these QBs. Fromm came out and took COMMAND of the offense. His last year was not as good for a number of reasons, but I think Coley and the lack of talent at receiver was more of the issue than Fromm. As for this year, Newman screwed UGA.

[@Saul.2910]

Fromm improved from Freshman to sophomore years, then regressed as a junior

[@crazyunclelou]

I didnt see any improvement.

[@jamelbrown5296]

How did he improve freshman to sophomore year he sucked his sophomore year and junior year freshman year was his best year 🤷🏾hands down idk if it’s coaching or the player but it on going situation they don’t know how to improve there quarterback it been to many l good quarterback talent at uga look at Justin fields he was lost at uga look at him now Unc Lou is speaking facts

[@jimmyrotten-seed3646]

It was not just Dwan Mathis who was out of sorts vs Arky. The o line was screwing up left and right too b/c they were missing assignments. WRs were running wrong routes and RBs were not always picking up blitzing LBs. Everyone is still trying to learn the new offense. Losing the spring reps from spring combined with losing Newman really hurt. It's going to take half a season, maybe a full season for the O players to get comfortable and figure out what to do b/c what Monken runs is a real, modern day offense which is what most UGA fans wanted and is much more sophisticated and has a bigger learning curve than that 3 yds and a cloud of shit scheme Chaney and Coley used. Many of those plays called by Monken were there. They just weren't properly executed. All they need is more reps and time. I don't know how long, but we should see a little improvement each week after Auburn. Gotta a bad feeling auburn will kill us simply b/c the players on offense have not learned Monken's scheme well enough. But once they do...Look out! And a DT QB is not needed to run it but having one just makes it even more dangerous. Rejoice Wou! The 3 yds and cloud of shit era is over at UGA! It will just take time (maybe a full season) to make the transition. We got a glimpse of how efficient bit can be during the 2nd half when UGA O scored 25 points. And that was with mailman at QB. Our rivals may laugh at us this year, but they won't next year.

[@raymallisham4584]

i feel bad for Georgia fans. Kirby just keeps mishandling star QBs .

[@WahooYess]

Eason went in the fourth. I would consider that he played against less talent and also in a system he got to practice in for a year before starting. Fields again played against lesser competition, but he did well. I wanted Fields over Fromm because you need some playmaking ability at the QB position to win big. With all that said, I think Kirby was directly responsible for holding back the QB’s. He is such a control freak he doesn’t let the OC just coach and you could tell that Fromm tried to protect the ball more than score points in his Jr year. He aired it out in HS and was very accurate. I think Kirby took a necessary step when hiring Monken. I think it’s short sighted to think Kirby hasn’t changed or there’s a ab development issue if Daniels doesn’t light it up right away. COVID condensed the practicing time with a new offense being installed. When I saw the game last week I saw more issues from the supporting cast then the QB himself. This is going to happen when you consider the aforementioned circumstances. I hope he can take off Saturday, but I would say it will take time for us to really see how good the offense can be, the effect monken will have on QB development, and most importantly of Kirby will get the hell out of Monkens way.

[@scottkerr9377]

I thought that we would see a passing attack this year, but I saw the same old "run the ball up the middle" offense. Kirby is way too conservative offensively and way too dangerous defensively. Look at the amount of penalties we stacked up against the Hogs. Ponderous.

[@raymondclaghorn781]

The fact that Stetson is the likely starter this week says that something has gone very wrong in the QB room this season. Kirbys philosophy is competition at every position, but it doesn’t work at QB. The reps get split up between multiple guys and no chemistry develops. When Kirby brought in JT, the message he sent was the guys here aren’t good enough. Clearly there still is no plan.

[@travisnash8546]

And remember we lost 3 offensive linemen to draft auburn game will tell how rest of season will go

[@dailydiamond5492]

Also the new offensive schemes are more pass heavy than we are used to

[@mistertroll4107]

This was a very good video. Everything you said I agreed with. It's very frustrating.

[@TheBigDawgz71]

Kirby has my 100% support, but with all that was said for the past yrs he has been the only Common denominator...

[@glockman9c]

Besides the QB situation, Kirby really has done quite a bit at Georgia in a short period of time. See ya soon... Roll Tide!

[@Bulldog-he3eh]

I'mma AU tiger Uncle Lou.. but I wish UGA the best this Saturday.. War Eagle 💙🧡💙🧡

[@HardcoreGator]

Said it before and I’ll reiterate here: Smart is a plus version of Muschamp. Both are great defensive minds who can recruit (Smart is elite here). But both cannot help but handcuff the offense to their own philosophy which is about 30 years behind modern football.

[@imadominate]

This is the first year with a change at QB coach. I'm hoping to see Monken change that Dwan could have been good I just don't think he was ready. You can cleary see the game was just moving too fast but I still saw some potential. I also think CKS needs to loosen the reigns on offense and let Monken run it how he wants.

[@DvanteReese]

Lou, talent wise, I think we will all agree that Ohio State & Georgia are on the same level year in and year out. But this is what separates Ohio State from Georgia as far as QB’s go, and where you have to give Urban Meyer/Ryan Day props. From Braxton Miller, to JT Barrett, to Cardell Jones, back to JT Barrett, to Dwayne Haskins, to Justin fields. Which were all Ohio States starting QB’s dating back to Urban’s first year in 2012. Notice that every one of those QB’s have completely different skill sets but we’re all highly successful. That’s because Ohio State tweaked how they utilized each one. And if Georgia can keep the right QB’s instead of losing out on the Cam Newton’s, Deshaun Watson’s, Trevor Lawrence’s, and Justin Fields’ which were all from their own backyard, and learn how to use them, Georgia would be unstoppable every year. Hell, Cam & Deshaun both wanted to go to Georgia so Justin Fields wasn’t the first screwup.

[@jacksonbates3062]

We need to give Mathis another chance!!! He played a lot better than ppl think

[@chrisshields5448]

In my opinion.....the last elite QB we had was Fields...and we see what happened there. That is just my opinion. We had FIVE star recruits but for whatever reason we just haven't had a QB that could put the team and the game on his back. Have not seen a QB that can "throw" us to a victory. The last 8 years...stop our run game, we lose.

[@domdinkins]

So in a NUTshell (pun intended) Kirby Smart doesn’t know how to help a QB reach his full potential. Is that fair to say at this point ?

[@dawg-talk2472]

I mean wtf do you do with: Brain surgery QB (seems a bit nervous because of it) 5’11 QB (one hit from auburn dl might be goodnight) One leg transfer QB from pac 12 Then a freshman QB I think Carson needs a chance as well as anyone The options are so vast but in a negative manner idk what you could do Not being negative towards any QB either, all could play anywhere as solid 2nd string minimum. We all seem to be expecting a Superman ya know so it’s hard for me to tell if it’s Kirby himself or the options themselves just aren’t good enough (since Fromm left) for what we’re looking for We will eventually acclimate to 21st century offense and find and KEEP an elite dual threat

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

The issue is not “Look at all that UGA achieved iwith Jack Fromm at QB”. The question is...how much of that was exclusively because of Jack? How much would have occurred and maybe more, if Eason or Fields had been committed to. UGA fired a coach averaging 10 wins per season because it was clear he wasn’t taking them to the next level. That same mindset should have been used on Jack Fromm vs Justin Fields. The highest rated recruit in modern UGA history was Justin Fields...Kirby should have committed to him instead of Jack. That said I don’t think a Kirby Smart team can develop and take advantage of a QB no matter how talented, so for results sake, Kirby may have made the right choice, but that’s an indictment on him as a head coach. The biggest fear UGA fans should have...is Kirby trying to prove you can win the way Bama did 2009-2012? Uncle Lou is right...times have changed...you’re not winning titles 10-6 anymore.

[@RogerThat902]

Kirby will eventually be fine, but the rest of your points are right. You take the more talented guy and you do the best to have him win the job. That was not done. There were so many blowouts where UGA had Fields in in the 3rd handing the ball off the rest of the game. Why were those reps not used to get Fields game reps? No coach can say you're running up the scored if it's the 3rd quarter! Fromm stunk in the LSU game, but we didn't see Fields. So either they failed to prepare Fields during the season or they did and were too married to Fromm to want to hurt his feelings.

[@bigdofba]

OU fan here... Georgia has the opposite problem that OU has. The main difference that it is much easier for Georgia to fix their QB play than it is for OU to fix 11 guys on defense. As for UGA, I think its a combination of things. 1. It’s the system 2. It’s the evaluation of talent at QB Georgia reminds me of LSU a few years ago. Athletes all over the field but their offense was like 1950s style with no QB play. Now that LSU figured it out, look what happened. Fromm was the worst of the three QBs you listed yet Smart fell in love with him. You can’t let a guy like Fields walk. He didn’t look good at Georgia for a reason. We all critique our coaches. Kirby is a good coach and he’ll figure it out. UGA is going to win most of their games from talent but I can’t take them seriously to beat Bama or Clemson until they fix their QB play.

[@cbtterdays]

My question is how does all this talent end up at UGA, Bama, and Clemson? How much are these recruiters paying. It's not tradition when it comes to UGA and Clemson. It's got to be the payout

[@jeffreyrusselljr7713]

I'm not a Georgia fan, but the question you have to ask yourself is where does the buck stop? Then in your heart you'll have your answer.