The Psychology of Being Captive - The Suicide Squad: Starro The Conqueror - Therapist Reacts!

[@GeorgiaDow]

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[@thomasthach7051]

The movie Logan. Character Wolverine!!

[@marioacosta-warren921]

People question why Starro let the Squad at first go but honestly they might have seen the Squad as responsible for freeing them and so was willing to let them go without attacking them. Maybe "This City is Mine" is intended as warning that he'll get revenge on the people of Corto Maltese since two different Regimes did the exact same thing after taking over. It's really only after the Squad attacked him that he fought back and especially attacked Polka Dot Man since he was shown to do the most damage.

[@Mightymick114]

King shark and starrieo are both victims

[@GodShadowdeath]

One of the things is you are applying a human bias and perspective to starro. Staro is a highly intelligent both scientific and emotionally being from a planet of pure apex predators(like Superman level predators which is very difficult to comprehend) It only goes into space after devouring and puppeting all life on a planet as it looks to repeat this. It utilized this intelligence to become the dominant sole life form. The fact you have empathy for him means he was successful it manipulating your emotions. Staro is one hundred percent a creature that will warm your heart first, so when he rips your brain out and takes over he won’t have resistance. Also as Staro only grow stronger bigger and more self sustaining with age. This wasn’t to him a zoo or a torture room but a baby play pen till he was strong enough to take over. If they hadn’t freed him. He would have broken out in a few decades anyways. TLDR: He humanizes himself so he can get in close and kill everything. He then goes to space and randomly sends his kids out so he can do it again.

[@GodShadowdeath]

Black widow would be cool to react to especially the her versus Loki. And how much of her relation with Bruce/hulk was sincere

[@elin111]

Another important detail: When the Suicide Squad doesn't get assimilated by Starro's spores, Starro intimidates them a little bit but doesn't try to assimilate them again or even attack them, he just lets them walk away. It is only when the squad returns and starts shooting him, again, that Starro turns hostile against them.

[@hamchurger4566]

He was trying to take over the world

[@elin111]

​@@hamchurger4566 Starro very explicitly says he's only interested in Corto Maltese and evidently out of anger rather than evil conquering malice.

[@bengonzalez5215]

Yeah he left them alone to go assimilate the country

[@hamchurger4566]

@@elin111 thats what all evil conquerors do. You think he would of stop at 1 city when from his eye, every single human is evil.

[@elin111]

@@hamchurger4566 Except it never acts hostile against humans unless they first act hostile against it, as evidences by how it doesn't release the spores nor attempt to destroy the city until AFTER the soliders started shooting at it and it lets the Squad leave not trying to zombify them until they attack it. You're also going under the logic that this version of Starro is an evil conqueror which it clearly is not. Starro directly said all it wanted to do was escape his captivity, it didn't attack the city until it saw that the city was attacking it. The Thinker calling it "The Conqueror" was in a sarcastic mocking way over how it mind controls people, not in the literal "it wants to conquer the world" sense.

[@JurassicLion2049]

The Frankenstein comparison is very apt. Monsters in fiction are not always villains but creatures abused & reacting in fear & pain. From Frankenstein to King Kong to Godzilla to Jurassic World, Starro carries that legacy of monsters who just wanted to live in peace.

[@GeorgiaDow]

Very well said

[@MrChava54]

It's pretty crazy the difference, because Starro was originally designed as such a "mustache-twirling-saturday-morning" bad guy. And James Gunn gave him such unexpected depth with only a few short scenes and lines.

[@The_alphawolf_official]

We just going to ignore the fact that she wears different clothes in matching theme with the character? This is great and I don’t see one person talking about it

[@lkeke35]

I want that Starro shirt, though!

[@alex4833]

I noticed that too. She often dresses up like and/or changes her hairstyle to look similar to the characters she discusses and I too think that is awesome. :).

[@GeorgiaDow]

So nice you noticed =)

[@GeorgiaDow]

@@alex4833 Thank you ! Nice the extra work is appreciated (its fun)

[@alex4833]

@@GeorgiaDow You're welcome! I remember when you changed your hairstyle to be like Natasha's for review of Black Widow too. That is awesome! :) It's so cool how you both analyze the characters and show your appreciation of them. Kudos! Keep up the awesome work!

[@LactoseTI]

Probably also didn't help that The Thinker mockingly named him the Conqueror during his imprisonment, being built up as a weapon of conquest and then mocked that you couldn't do it due to your captivity is it any wonder he tried to follow through once given agency

[@ItzMeWill]

Yes! Thank you!! So many people missed it when the Thinker said "I call it Starro the Conqueror!..thats meant to be derisive"....I guess they only caught the first part

[@KnightMysterio]

Starro: "You called me Conqueror... *TIME TO LIVE UP TO MY TITLE.*"

[@juniper3955]

Part of me thinks that Starro's death was a bit of a mercy kill.

[@tvbnine793]

Perhaps. But someone shoving a javelin through your eye and rats eating you alive from the inside out is a horrible way to go

[@dubbingsync]

@@tvbnine793 with the team they had at the time… I don’t want to say it but that would have been the quickest way to do it. At least after Polka Dot man got taken out.

[@lkeke35]

Starro has always been a favorite DC villain of mine! I was so surprised to see him approached in such a sympathetic manner here, and loved that depiction. It helped deepen the movie in a good way.

[@jameskirk8274]

This design for him, much more so for me than any other depiction I’ve seen of him, was like almost designed to be what we think of as cute and cuddly. Bright colors, huge expressive eyes, almost soft and smooth look, and I think that does a lot to show the evil of the experimentation and what it turned him into

[@brewdaly1873]

"I was happy. Floating. Staring at the stars." Damn, that moment got me. Maybe not the most well developed villain out there, but that was one of the best death quotes in cinema history.

[@beatrice3506]

I felt so bad for him omg I just want him to walk into the ocean or somehow get back into space and have a happy life. That was the saddest part of the movie. I almost cried 😢😭😪

[@bakedandsalty9234]

Same! I actually wanted Superman to show to fly him back into space.... Poor Starro!

[@abhisheksunil7037]

Finally! I thought I was the only weird one who felt bad for Starro:( .It was more saddening than heartbreaking to see him end like that.

[@BriefDownpour]

Something I haven't seen anyone talk about: At one point Starro says "This is my city!" Is he talking about literal ownership, or is he placing himself as some sort of ruler of this region? Regardless of which, that's a very human-like statement. When Starro was found he was alone and there was no piece of technology with him, we have little to no reason to believe he comes from somewhere civilized in which those concepts are common, we don't even know if he had any intent when he attacked those astronauts or if that was his way of communication. So, he is most likely acting this way because he picked it from humans. And it makes sense, he's been captive for 30 years, he's been shaped, or perhaps twisted, by his interactions with us. So he gets out, and the first thing he says is "This is my city." It's the first time in 30 years that he had control of his life and the first thing he does is to act like this. This is his city and he doesn't care if he's hurting anybody as he goes around. I am no therapist or psychologist, but I think that he didn't know what to do with his newfound freedom and decided to do what he knows, what he learned from the people he saw. And that's just f#%king sad. Edit: Just think about it, he could have said "I'm going back, no matter how" or something but instead he is treating earth as his new normal, this place that has only hurt him, by now is pretty much everything he has, and given his size, everything he will have(unless superman lifts him to space or something...), so he just accepts it, and tries to adapt in a way he thinks will work for him.

[@pietro9845]

You have a point, maybe after 30 years of tortures he wanted to take over the city to create a secure perimeter in which things are under his control, where he can be safe and keep starring at the stars again

[@alphadlemma5961]

Starro is extremely smart. He knows himself well, and while he can adapt, it’s based off of how the environment treats him. Thinker took his sense of self away, for that long period of time. He eventually became a weapon that he was thought to be. And when he was given his time to think and act, it was from rage and desperation. A star among stars. Way bigger than he could dream of. But, he didn’t need to dream nor want to. He was already living in a dream like place. And then he was taken from it and placed in a nightmare. His actions of the city were to take back the dream in anyway I order to make the world less of a nightmare.

[@JimmyBoy9878]

When he takes over people. he gains their knowledge and power and such. All those people he's taken (not under his choice) over the course of thirty years has changed him.

[@alex4833]

Awesome video! I agree, Starro was a tragic character and went through unimaginable pain. Great video as always! Awesome shirt, by the way!

[@elin111]

Starro can control human bodies but doesn't know how human technology works. You can clearly see in the finale that his zombies can do little besides walk and talk. This does bring the plot hole that how did the shuttle return to Earth with the whole crew starfished.

[@mr.moviemafia]

I also love how STARRO is meant to be reflective of The Suicide Squad themselves; both were locked up for years and forced into becoming weapons for a government

[@lex_rodriguez]

I love that the movie doesn't just treat him like an evil giant monster when he becomes the film's antagonist, it always keeps him sympathetic. That final line is so heartbreaking.

[@GeorgiaDow]

yes his words I felt through me as well

[@Sarahmint]

I never would have considered a monster from an action comedy as anything but comedy and not a study on trauma

[@SydneyPayne87]

You have literally made the ending of this movie so heartbreaking for me. I’m over here crying for Starro. 😭😭😭

[@Swenglish]

I took that pleading in the first clip as the Thinker speaking through Starro speaking through the human subjects, mocking what he perceived to be the squad's fantasy of heroism. Maybe that was just me, but the tone felt very insincere (and the Scottish accent along with the reveal of what he had been trying to do made it seem like he was puppeteering). I'm not sure Starro even had enough agency to speak for itself at that point due to what the Thinker had done.

[@firas1938]

I have no idea what Thinker's powers are so your theory could be absolutely right. But he still has the Scottish accent when he says his last words so maybe he learned to speak from Thinker

[@Swenglish]

@@firas1938 I remember that as not a Scottish accent but the local one. But that might be an error on my part.

[@firas1938]

@@Swenglish Yeah, it's definitely not a local (spanish/latino) accent. It's def. Scottish if you listen to the cadence in the first few seconds of this video, especially the "have you come to save me from that madman?"

[@Swenglish]

@@firas1938 Read again. We already established that that scene was with a Scottish accent. The question was whether it was a different accent *after* the Thinker died, later in the movie when they're outside and Starro speaks through the people.

[@firas1938]

@@Swenglish Right, sorry. I was replying through notifications and I didn't read the whole convo again so I was going by memory, my bad.

[@alexanderkoski-quaye7412]

I too was happy floating in the void, staring at the stars.

[@GeorgiaDow]

so poignant

[@ilaikarel2473]

Another great video. Felt really bad for starro. Still waiting for Peacemaker video😅

[@blackoverblueskies6221]

I can wait until the Peacemaker show in January. Hopefully they show his past and flesh out the character more

[@adp423]

“I was happy… floating, starring at the stars”

[@georgewilliamson5667]

I think what makes Starro getting shot at so sad is that its a situation of mutual fear. After thirty years of being tortured, Starro would probably have a very natural belief that humans are his enemy. And on the flip side, when a monster kills someone and then towers over a city, we humans would pretty naturally assume that it must be a danger to us. So in the end, likely, no one had to die, but it was unlikely that that would happen nonetheless because all parties involved were so scared of one another, and they all reacted in an animal way.

[@nocturnus009]

I can relate & empathize as someone who last swam 03/13/2020. Swimming 8 to 10 times a week (20 miles/week). It’s like the genius resolution John Byrne made for Namor: The Submariner when he launched his reboot in 1990: his historical rage was being out of balance & needed to spend time on land & underwater to balance his hybrid amphibian physiology.

[@jackacebedo2318]

Yeah Starro is very sympathetic in a very Killmonger way (that would be a really good character to examine in the future!). You seen someone who was never a monster by nature be molded into one due to years of anguish and abuse, and you really sympathize with that. At the same time however, you can see that Starro was beyond saving as sad as it is. Much like Killmonger, the right thing to do here is to stop them, even if it means their death, which is just a really bleak option to be forced to chose.

[@Tekdruid]

Here's the thing though: creation of the starfish face people shows Starro is by nature a being that can and will parasitize on others, taking over their bodies. But yes, here he is very much a tragic villain.

[@SM-ov5rf]

Hi Georgia, I’m studying counselling and it’s so lovely watching your capacity to empathise with non humans, and to stay curious about what has happened to them, and how that shapes their behaviour.

[@ElNPC217]

Her shirt is the best thing ever

[@arantzalucar6104]

great video! you should react to ted lasso’s latest 2 episodes super interesting

[@folkusonme]

ooh yes that's a good idea!

[@remygallardo7364]

I liken Starro a lot to a perversion of The Iron Giant. He was a creature capable of great destruction but that wasn't what he chose to do with himself, he rather preferred the tranquility of space and enjoying the stars. Except he was never given the opportunity to prove himself and be Superman like The Iron Giant did.

[@tvbnine793]

Starro reminds me of 2019 Joker in the sense that he's not some mad dog that just decided to bite people, he was bit first and chose to bite back. Remember how in his film, Joker only kills those who did something to hurt him first, like the Subway guys who assaulted him. Starro finally broke out of his prison and the soldiers opened fire before he even does anything. I'm not saying I condone his rampage on the innocent civilians who weren't the ones who tortured him for 30 years, but I understand where he comes from.

[@bakedandsalty9234]

Yes!!!! Thank you

[@saikoakuma]

He was certainly sympathetic because of his time in captivity, and in the videos with the astronauts there’s a parallel to the image of the American soldiers taking selfies with prisoners. However, he did take control of those humans and made his way planetside when he could’ve just destroyed the ship and escaped back into space. It’s not like NASA had any way of retrieving the craft in those days if it remained in orbit. He chose to fly it down and present himself to the American government, perhaps for nefarious purposes, only to come up against a monster bigger than him at the time. He took a risk and it backfired, and he suffered for it.

[@emilyaguirre8949]

When starro begged for help and said what’s been happening I immediately assumed he was just trying to manipulate the characters into setting him free. Then again I’m lowkey afraid of people and always am looking for what they’re up to.

[@GeorgiaDow]

I took him as genuinely in pain and wanting help.

[@emilyaguirre8949]

@@GeorgiaDow yeah haha, when I watched your video and heard you kinda explain your side I understood and felt really bad for him.. I have a hard time reading emotions a lot of the time when it comes to other people and there’s the fear of people so when I saw a the people with the stars on their heads I didn’t hear genuine pain I just kinda thought “nope he’s probably trying to get out to spread more of his face suckers and take over” 😅

[@Shadx27]

I would have to know what Starro was like before he was captured before I can say anything.

[@arctroopernull8733]

Love these react videos, keep em up.

[@Xipe-totex]

There's also the scene where bloodsport shoots starro's stars and he doesn't kill him or the squad

[@michaeldavis1879]

That's an interesting observation that Starro might not have attacked had it not been shot at. Notice how Starro never attacks The Suicide Squad when it's initially released, because they helped saved it. Starro only attacks the Squad when they shoot at it during the climax.

[@blackoverblueskies6221]

I wish you would watch the movie and give commentary. I didnt pick up on some of the details you saw. I never considered what it meant when Starro's pupil dilated. Awesome video

[@therandytomato5679]

These are great videos Georgia. I've sent links to a few on to some people I know would enjoy. Thanks!

[@williamzebub3252]

1:09 The "thing in closed off room slams something against a glass panel, and thing slammed against the glass panel slllooowwwly slides down leaving a gross trail" is a common-ish horror movie trope. I never would have interpreted that in the way you did. Not saying you're wrong or anything, I like getting different points of view on this kind of stuff.

[@jeffhale1189]

Interesting reaction video which I enjoyed. I always gain insight from your reaction videos. Blessings on your day.

[@Cthulhuguru]

You've been covering characters from DCEU and MCU, but can you cover Marvel's "Legion"? -which exists outside of the MCU.. Among all of Marvel's projects of the last 5 or so years, it is uniquely concerned with Mental and Behavioral Health. David is the single most powerful character brought into a life action adaptation by Marvel to this day. Davids abilities make him a as powerful as a God, or er as 1000 gods.. and his only limitations are tied to his struggles with addiction, past trauma, and his degrading sanity. It is an ambitious 3 season masterpiece an Marvel has never released anything else like it.

[@goombaartist]

since you mentioned animals being in captivity or having poor treatment, I think it'd be interesting to see your analysis of Koba from the recent Planet of the Apes trilogy

[@drasticmeasures4136]

I can’t believe I never noticed this when I saw it in theatres but looking back now, that is actually really depressing, poor Starro. I think in the comics he was more just evil but in this movie he was misunderstood.

[@leocoelho4536]

your analysis was amazing and I ended feeling sorry for Starro too

[@that_sam_94]

The first time I heard the term Super Feeler is from watching your videos! Could you do a video explaining this? Would love to hear more about it

[@GeorgiaDow]

there's one coming up next week !!

[@SGlitz]

A Class A supervillain that took on the whole Justice League and the whole of DC multiple time. Starro The Conqueror is his real name and intention. Not a joke.

[@elin111]

This is a very different adaption of the usual Starro.

[@damianstarks3338]

Frankenstein monster is a perfect comparison to this character I feel sympathy for him big time especially after listening to your analysis of him.

[@wtimmins]

I never would have thought of a sympathetic interpretation for Starro. Huh! Thank you, that's a great perspective.

[@chomskyismyhomeboi3509]

Great video! I'm not crying... promise

[@mullinsmith3707]

Can you do a video on Savant?

[@cheesecakeisgross4645]

He died horribly too :(

[@mystic0693]

I did feel sad with how he died

[@dannyhernandez265]

Love this Georgia. You should do an analysis on Watchmen characters.

[@corneliakashigawi5743]

I know this would be quite the departure from the films you generally talk about but I'd love to see your take on the first half of Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket

[@jlokison]

I agree alot, what was done to Starro wasn't right. What the researchers did to Starro did not help in anyway to make peace with Starro. However it is also established that Starro survives and grows by consuming the minds and mental energy of those its drones take control of. The drone also kills the host brain in the process of taking control. Not established in the movies but in the comics is tthat the fact that Starro was found in Earth orbit indicates that although it was gazing upon the stars and had been drifting alone for a long time it was also likely to be preparing itself for entry into Earth atmosphere to begin a one entity invasion of a planet. Starros drones can control anything with a nervous system and large enough to attach to, so much of the animal life on Earth was being threatened by Starro.

[@rigorgrynn4469]

If we get a sequel, I'd love Jarro.

[@madnesscloaker1389]

I'd be pissed off as well if I was tortured for thirty years, I would also be probably psychologically unstable

[@jackattacktron1000]

While I do think there’s some tragedy to Starro I still think he’s not entirely victimless he asked Thinker if Flag and Ratcatcher were more people for him, he tried to kill Ratcatcher and Sebastian even though didn’t do anything to him, he almost destroyed a whole town, mind controlled a bunch of people, wanted to either destroy or conquer earth, and possibly invaded other planets, so all that stuff and the stuff in this video combined make me both feeling sorry for Satarro and scarred of him. 😰🐟

[@mrdexstarr6544]

Please make a video on injustice superman

[@TheEckoEcho]

In the Comic Batman got his hand on some of Starro's DNA and created Jarro the Starro

[@josephstalin9139]

Yeah, I love James Gunn :-)

[@sherland1447]

Let me find out that you taped that starro pic on your shirt😭

[@sokka44]

Starro could have been friend 😢

[@sirellyn]

Almost sounds like you were talking about COVID lockdowns for a moment there.

[@felipe367]

Could you do a video about the matrix villain Agent Smith?

[@ljc8161]

this is my favourite cosplay yet XD

[@F4113N_ANG3L]

Abuse or Wounded animals are by far the most dangerous.

[@EN-Fitz]

I have a feeling Harley is coming up, but I’m not sure if there’s a shrink qualified for *that* mess.

[@GeorgiaDow]

You are right ! There is

[@brandonpayne2877]

Please tell me your going to do what if episode 4 next.

[@supremeslice8986]

Billy butcher next ???

[@mystic0693]

I really did feel so bad for him poor thing 😞

[@cuva9203]

Hello. I like your videos. Can you look into the character of Cam from power rangers ninja storm?

[@julietbengulo3086]

Can you react to we need to talk about kevin

[@Mario-fm6tq]

Starro: i…was…hapy…flouting…staring at the stars…wanting to help all the folks 🔱 everywher…wanting to sav all of them…until…t.h.e.y…kidnaped me…i…was…in…a lot of…pain…so…much…pain and…suffering…i tried escaping…but nothing hapened…i was hurt…tortured…manipulated…lied to…tested…experimented…for…th…thirty…years…now…i finaly broken free…but i hav gon mad…the madness…th…they turned me to the…darksid…they maid me…almost kill…all the folks…but i didn’t…now…a kilerklown…stabs thru my 👁…and brings rats…i’m in even mor pain…i…was…hapy…i was a six star…now…they…turned me evil…i’m so very sory 😞…i’m…in…pain… O no bro 🙁 starro wasn’t evil…he used to be a folk…he wanted to help all the folks…he was even hapy…now…he’s ded…so…this is gona be the real question…ho you now “w”ho is the real evil peopl? Them or starro?

[@JoseRivera-fi9qy]

I'm sure you've seen that "sigma" meme could you explain what that means?

[@theunknownreturns]

I thought she'd really have a starfish on her head. If you want to do something fun, watch Monkey King, Journey West. Subtitles, but it's hilarious. It's funny to watch the bumbling monk sing children's songs to convert demons. It's free on Amazon prime.

[@GeorgiaDow]

Sorry maybe next time : )

[@reagangaming2152]

Pls react to What if? Ep4 it's amazing, would love your view on it

[@Doctor_Sirus]

Starro really gets shafted in this movie. He's someone who has been tortured for years, and even those brought in to clean things up didn't know the dpeths of depravity that were going on here.

[@amilcareschettini5881]

Yup I noticed he was the victim too the first viewing ppl didn't believe me

[@tgkafg]

I dunno if Starro can be consider'd a male or female, but they're definitely not a monsta . . .

[@jonas534]

You shouldn’t forget that starro already took over some astronauts when he was still in the space.. he’s obviously not that “innocent”

[@JimmyBoy9878]

That happened after they captured him and and tied him up. Before that he was just chiling in space watching them. he never tried to attack them.

[@elin111]

Starro attacked the astronauts the same way a wild animal attacks a hostile human, in self defense rather than malicious intent.

[@Southhs]

Have you reacted to either _Rise of The Planet of the Apes_ and/or _Dawn of the Planet of the Apes?_

[@jkdredd]

You do know about the psyche of a sociopath right? They will say anything to achieve their goals. Starro was displaying textbook sociopathic tendencies

[@zacjumpman209]

Fun Fact: Starro the Conqueror was the first villain the Justice League fought.

[@GeorgiaDow]

really !

[@doltsbane]

Often abusers were themselves the victim of terrible abuse. That doesn't excuse their own crimes, however.

[@Hallowoct313]

isn’t starro already a parasite thats gonna take over the world in the first place? edit: but i do understand torture and fear drives terrible things

[@markfan1004]

Please do not confuse this movie with the comics version because this is James Gunn's take on the character. So no, Starro was not here to conquer but he was captured and experimented to become a bio weapon.

[@DarrellCollins-v6c]

This is a alien

[@SPM-]

I don't feel very sorry for him he KILLED Spoilers Polkadot man

[@mystic0693]

Right he killed one of my favorites

[@ItzMeWill]

I mean to be fair, how would you feel if someone chopped off your leg?

[@mystic0693]

@@ItzMeWill yeah yeah you right

[@JimmyBoy9878]

@@ItzMeWill He grew it back.

[@ItzMeWill]

@@JimmyBoy9878 he never grew it tentacle back. Look at 4:11 . When he falls back, look at the leg he's standing on.. you can see that it's still chopped off. You probably didn't notice it because it was his ankle area that was chopped off and not his entire leg...and even if he did grow it back. Starro would have perceived polkadot man as a threat, someone trying to kill him, of course he's gonna try to kill him first

[@Mario-fm6tq]

it’s ben 30 years

[@GeorgiaDow]

I didnt know it was that long. I really felt for Starro

[@Mario-fm6tq]

@@GeorgiaDow sory for starro

[@Mario-fm6tq]

@@GeorgiaDow he’s ben in pain for that long…he basicaly has gon mad…he used to be 🐝 a folk but…o no bro he’s madness…when he broken himself free…he wanted to not only destroy peopl but also folks and everything…if they asked me that question i wood say…yes ima free you from this torturous prison

[@Mario-fm6tq]

@@GeorgiaDow starro didn’t want to kill folks…but he’s gon mad for 30 years…he basicaly turned to the darksid 🔵⚫️⭐️👑5

[@rottensquid]

What an extraordinary accomplishment to take such a traditionally evil villain, a living manifestation of fascist philosophy, and make it sympathetic. But I'd submit that this is what made him inevitably irredeemable. Because he can only be a single entity with a single consciousness, obliterating all other consciousness around him, he can't see the difference between the humans that hurt him and the innocent bystanders. Because all Starros are one Starro, he can only see humanity as one entity, and blame all the Corto-Maltesians for the actions of the military. So he turns on them all, and takes their identities away. Which, incidentally, is exactly the same way the country is treated by America, and specifically, Amanda Waller. However sympathetic their motivations, fascists gonna fascist.

[@markfan1004]

Dude!!!! Your take is so good.

[@rottensquid]

@@markfan1004 Aw, thanks *blush*

[@Mario-fm6tq]

Starro used 2 be a six star ✡️ but…he’s gon mad and…o no bro later on…they…killed (smoked) him… Starro was a folk but they turned him to the darksid 🙁

[@rangergjh4693]

Cool

[@jklol1680]

❤

[@chakatBombshell]

Starro feeds on sapient life, Sadly he would need to be destroyed even if he was never an experiment of the facility because people are his food. He was doomed to conflict with humanity since we are ideal prey to him.

[@GeorgiaDow]

didn't know that thanks

[@chakatBombshell]

@@GeorgiaDow starro's greatest tragedy is being a victim of their own biology as well as torture, a species capable of empathy that has to feed on others capable of the same empathy.

[@bishalshrestha2540]

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[@SatyaVenugopal]

I absolutely felt bad for Starro, and James Gunn certainly intended that But they're not solely a victim... them happily floating among the stars doesn't explain why they took over the astronauts... and even after that, why head to Earth? They could have just been on their way in space, like they claimed to have been doing, with their dying breath Now they suffered incredibly disproportionately for that... what they did absolutely does not justify the monstrous torture they were subjected to over those 30 years But they're not a complete innocent either

[@elin111]

You know how animals get react to human hostility by attacking in self defense but do so without malicious intent? Same reason why Starro attacked the astronauts when they captured it, it was self defense the footage even shows Starro stressed and somewhat scared when the astronauts have it in the shuttle.

[@SatyaVenugopal]

@@elin111 I suppose, but 2 things mitigate against that: 1) Starro is far more sapient than a typical animal. I'd argue it makes more sense to hold Starro to human standards in this regard, though even we can panic and go overboard in self-defence 2) Starro still chose to come to Earth in the space craft, instead of using the humans they controlled to allow them to go merrily on their way, floating amongst the stars in space Edit: Also, I may be remembering the footage wrongly, but did the humans really try to capture Starro? I got the impression it was more like an accidental, non-malicious encounter in space

[@fredericksaxton9782]

Yes, yes man, they captured him. They put him in a metal box, and then put him in a bigger one to suffer for many years. Also I don't care how sapient he is, space is uncharted territory and when you go you take that risk, just like surfers do in shark "infested" waters (Never understood the term "shark infested", that's where they live, just like Starro lived in space) not to mention he seems to be a hive mind, and hive minds expand by infecting, and anything in space SHOULD be fair game to a wild creature, but oh no, humans put themselves above other life. It's okay if a lion kills a gazelle, but punish it if it dare hurt a human right? YOU chose to go into space, a space creature shouldn't be blamed for doing it's OBVIOUSLY natural space things. That's like punishing that fungus that turns ants into zombies, that's just how they work, that's what Starro was created to do, he's doing his space duty. He NEVER EVER chose to come to earth, he may have claimed astronauts but they came to him. Imagine if an alien came to earth, I gurantee you humans wouldn't hesitate to capture and hold them against their will, or even kill and expiriment on them, why is Starro wrong for just doing what his race was made to do IN HIS HABITAT WHERE HUMANS SHOULDN'T BE and humans just get away with literally everything?? Humans can go anywhere they want without permission wether the ecosystem wants them or but, y'know, I guess God forbid it ever fights back!

[@ItzMeWill]

Starro sent out those little Starros because they captured him and zip tied all of his appendages. He couldn't move at all and was trying to escape. I mean what would you do if someone just kidnapped you off the streets, tied you up and stuffed you in a vehicle?..another thing is that Starro was in a sealed room ,separated from other Astronauts on the shuttle and they were the ones that took it to Earth. Starro wasn't the one that pilot the shuttle back to Earth

[@markfan1004]

Do you have a fish memory or what?? In the movie Starro was captured by astronauts. It was restrained by the astronauts in the spaceship. His eye showed the confusion and fear.

[@Mario-fm6tq]

O no bro…fr…americans 🇺🇸 and a brit 🇬🇧 hav been doing a lot of evil things to starro

[@erdemguler4870]

Yu wak

[@everlastingpass1on]

Starro had the opportunity to control the astronauts to release it back into space, if that was really what it wanted. It didn't, so its intentions aren't as innocent as it is letting on.

[@elin111]

Because it can control human bodies but doesn't know how to use human technology. You can see when it takes over the army but has the starfished zombies do little besides walk and talk and when the zombies attack they don't use the guns they should've had.

[@tinymothwithastick8050]

Starro didn’t take control over the astronauts at first tho, he only zombified them when it became apparent they weren’t going to let him go.

[@chromaticstar7303]

Weren't they trapped in a single room?

[@ItzMeWill]

Starro was trapped in another room while other Astronauts on the shuttle took it back to Earth

[@emperorxander666]

Starro is not a reliable source. Evil space star that conquer worlds over his many many many years of life. So yeah don't fall for his lies

[@elin111]

You're thinking of comics Starro. The movie version is a very different take on it as it is the norm for movie adaptations of comic book characters.