German Immigrants: not WHITE and not WANTED

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In the 1750s, Benjamin Franklin expressed concerns about German immigrants in the Thirteen Colonies, highlighting their potential impact on English culture and language. Franklin believed that Pennsylvania, founded by the English, should not become a "colony of aliens" who would resist assimilation into English customs. His writings reflected a desire to preserve English dominance and cultural identity in the colonies. While Franklin's views were influenced by the context of the time, they shed light on the complexities of early American attitudes toward newcomers and the challenges of cultural assimilation.
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Gleason, Philip. “Trouble in the Colonial Melting Pot.” Journal of American Ethnic History, vol. 20, no. 1, 2000, pp. 3-17. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/27502642. Accessed 28 May 2023.
Washington, H. A., Jefferson, T. (1853). The Writings of Thomas Jefferson: Correspondence, cont. Reports and opinions while Secretary of State. United States: Taylor & Maury.
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[@nytn]

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[@-parttimeartist-7379]

They became accepted when they mixed with caucasians and diluted their complexion. Your complexion is what was refererred to back then as "sallow". "Tawny" was kyrie irvings complexion to The color of a penny. Swarthy was Denzel Washington's complexion and darker. You're comparing two different stocks with centuries of difference when you bring in Hitler.

[@jamesvesta]

Well, certainly in the late 1970s and 1980s I didn't experience anything as a kid because I was German. I definitely grew up eating schnitzel and pommes and sauer kraut lol

[@-parttimeartist-7379]

​​@@jamesvesta You're a different stock of German from the people Benjamin Franklin was referring to. Most Americans of German descent descend from the migrations caused by the revolutions of 1848. I'm not trying to discount your heritage.

[@rroadmap]

I know in the late 1970's when I married, my in-laws thought my last name (which is Dutch) was German and they weren't pleased. They were Mexican American and didn't want the marriage any more than my White father did. But they all got used to it and loved their mixed grandchildren, including the great-grands who are 1/4 Japanese. Boy do they have some interesting DNA! 😂 We're all one race--the human race! Character is what matters.

[@markantony3875]

@@-parttimeartist-7379 The Germans Franklin was talking about came from the Palatinate region of southwest Germany.

[@GazilionPT]

I think Franklin mentioning Germans and Swedes as "swarthy" was based on his observed reality (only he didn't realise why the reality was such): he knew no German or Swedish immigrants that were slave owners and/or from the upper classes; all German and Swedes he had encountered were rural labourers or small farmers working their own land - after years working on the fields, they were all tanned.

[@danspencer4235]

Absolutely! Classism is often mistaken for Racism. In every culture, even where most people share the same genetic makeup, people who are darker are frequently looked down upon, because they do physical labor outdoors. It's not Racism, it's Classism.

[@oliviakrause3336]

That's interesting and explains a lot. I was wondering why anyone would consider Germans not white enough.

[@danspencer4235]

@@oliviakrause3336 They get tan when they work outdoors. Physical labor has never been adequately respected, but it's necessary.

[@normarndelathassologenesis2967]

All racism is classism, as it's a socioeconomic construct. But a tan is not why Franklin called them swarthy. Lots of Northern European have olive undertones to their skin, they always have, even the blond and blue. People knew the difference between a suntan and naturally deeper complexion and coloring even in age of men wearing lead based court makeup to pale themselves out. Franklin knew what he was saying.

[@germaniatv1870]

@@oliviakrause3336 Franklin didnt want the Anti-Slavery Germans to settle in US America. And Franklin was right. Its the majority of German settlers who fought slavery in the USA and fought for its Independence from Britain. Many US-Historians say that without the German settlers there probably would still be a form of slavery or forced labor in America. When Historians talk about the UNION, the absolute majority of the UNION was German. Andright after the USA gained its independence the British Empire started to attack the German Empire which they then sacked in 1806. The Germans then reestablished their Empire in 1870 and then Britain crushed it again. The German Empire re-established in 1933 and Britain crushed it again. Franklin did not want the Germans because of their Anti-Slavery Laws in Germany implemented by the Holy German Empire in 1220.

[@markantony3875]

Here is the most funny thing about Franklin's comment: Fast forward a few years to the War of Independence, and the Pennsylvania Germans played a pivotal role in the defeat of the British. In fact, if it were not for the large number of PA Germans fighting in the Continental Army against the British, there would be no United States of America.

[@debismith6239]

I live in Cincinnati which is a historically German area, especially on the West Side. I think most would be surprised to hear Franklin describe Germans as swarthy. I am abt 25% German on my dad's side from the DNA. No Sub-Saharan African or Native American of any substantive amt at this time, but I think swarthy would describe my deceased dad and my adult son. Thru the paper trail, we still can't figure out where they get their dark complexion. Thanks for all your great history lessons, Danielle.

[@timeforchange3786]

@@debismith6239 i wonder if you possibly have Roma/Gypsy heritage?

[@johnpatrick5307]

@@debismith6239 Like Henning Wehn?

[@frederickgriffith7004]

@@timeforchange3786 Great observation.

[@Joyful_Smiles]

That's America's history. They use the expendable groups, not white but wants to be accepted by white, to do their work while they claim the victory and the benefits. I wish more people would wake up to what white means. Then, maybe then, we would have significantly less people identifying or trying to identify as white.

[@johnarchluleta]

I had an uncle on my Mexican side that I called the ‘most Mexican’ of all my uncles. Turns out, he was adopted and he was in fact a Bavarian German. Dude looked like Saddam Hussein and was culturally as Mexican as Vicente Fernandez lmao

[@nytn]

the MOST MEXICAN. I am dying laughing right now

[@6killer426]

The Bavarians are of Keltic descent from the La Tene Kelts. This is why the Bavarians and Swabians have never gotten along.

[@jackandblaze5956]

I thought Vicente was Welsh!

[@Alf-gx9wj]

Most people in the West aren't who they think they're

[@TheWorkersNewspaper1994]

If he looks like Saddam then he’s not that German now is he?

[@msakat1]

“White people” have a range of skin colors, eye colors, hair colors, and hair textures. We are more diverse than anyone gives us credit for.

[@nytn]

I agree with this so much

[@brian_Austin27]

But yall used it to attack each then everyone else its comical, especially in racism, u guys didn't understand each other lmao

[@robertmarley8852]

And they refuse to admit when they are WRONG

[@King_Edwards1605]

No you you recessive genes which means you are not the norm. You cannot produce a dark skinned child but a Black woman can. Recessive genes is not the foundation

[@user-wb5rj5jf5d]

​​@@brian_Austin27like the Native American tribes graping each other into extinction for thousands of years until we made them stop unaliving each other and deal blackjack at casinos instead? Those darn cruel whites! *Seethes in airplanes and smartphones*

[@Eggomania86]

The problem is that the English are descendants of Anglo Saxons, Jutes, and Frisians along with Britons, Danes, and Norman French. The English themselves were and are a mixed ethnic race. All of those cultures mixed and became the English ethnic group. It's reflected in English culture and Language. Ben Franklin was obviously uneducated about his own ancestry. That's the ironic part he was essentially being racist towards himself. Anglo Saxons, Frisians, Jutes, and Norse are technically Germanic tribes. The Norman French are a mixed ethnic group of Norse man and French. The French were another group Ben Franklin looked down upon. Again, being racist towards himself. Also, the Britons themselves, native Celtic tribes of Great Britain, were looked down upon. Irish Scottish and even Welsh. Our founding fathers didn't totally understand the history of their ancestors. The Saxons originally came from the region in Northern Germany, Southern Denmark called Schelswieg Holstein region. The Angels came from Northern Germany, Western Holland. The Jutes came from modern-day Denmark. The Frisians came from the Netherlands. The Norse came from Scandinavia. To go back even further before the Anglo Saxon days before the dark ages, Britian was again a mixed race culture of indeginious Celtic tribes and the Romans. The Roman Empire was a multi cultural society in itself. Roman soldiers garrisoned in Britain came from all over the Roman Empire. From Spain, North Africa, Greece, Italy the Middle East, Gaul, Turkey, parts of Yugoslavia clear to Germany. Those said groups did mix with the indigenous Britons. In a sense, you have an already multi cultural group mixing with Germanic tribes. So I agree that being white really isn't a thing. The reason is borders and language changed throughout Europe. There is no such thing as being pure whatever. Europe is a small continent with a harsh climate and limited resources. Different ethnic groups became subject to stronger ethnic groups. There was constant warfare because of limited resources.

[@krono5el]

hate always comes around to bite you on the ass.

[@danielmota1095]

@@krono5el HahAha

[@johnpatrick5307]

"Anglo-Saxons" was an invented term for a diverse group of peoples.

[@Cat-ik1wo]

So its false pride and ignorance that creates Racisism. Odd that they also think themselves superior yet don't remember who all they are. There are not many humans on the planet in different parts of the globe that has the narcissistic mentality as the Anglo Saxons of Europe. So all those mixing were not a good end result. Its the same as inbreeding. In this case, it affected their mind. The concept eludes them. The flaw with this breed is that it only recognizes and sees skin color on home sapiens. They have a mental disease that they are not even aware of. They are on a level of spectrum that will never be healed. Yes, insane people can also be intelligent, but insane none the less. Well, now that explains everything. If you hide behind the concept of white, you can appear normal.

[@verdeoaks6159]

@@johnpatrick5307 sons of Issac. Smh

[@ericponce8740]

The Anglo- Saxons that conquered England were from Germany. The English language is Germanic in origin. Did Ben Franklin remember these things?

[@bouchacourtthierry8506]

99% of British are genetic Celt Brition, the Anglo-saxon were a minority of leader.... remplace layer by Normands (that speack french Normands) ...until 17 century, English nobles used to speack French ...that cause English hâte French....

[@jdagreat4595]

Anglo means white . The original saxons were negros

[@Jerahmeelli415]

@@jdagreat4595 prove it

[@Jerahmeelli415]

@@davidbenyahuda5190 no it’s a fusion of the names of the Angles and the Saxons 😂 stop lying

[@shahanarif4295]

Jemeel haha brainwash English 😂😂Hitler said English is inferior race 😂😂😂

[@joanhuffman2166]

Later on Pennsylvania it was observed that a sign on a bridge which was in German and English, had slightly different meanings. The German was straightforward, "No galloping on the bridge". The English which was directed at their Scots-Irish neighbors said, "gallop on the bridge at your own risk".

[@nytn]

This is awesome, thanks!

[@johnnyearp52]

Maybe some people don't like to be forbidden to do things.

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

Benjamin Franklin’s fears indeed came true. The German started to Germanize Pennsylvania really fast.

[@RebelKing00]

Pennsylvania- colony founded by ENGLISHMEN and with help of other Brits such as Scottish and Scots Irish

[@FettiMagazine]

Yep Germany was a dark skinned or swarthy nation before the mid 1800's. Moors

[@paul9583]

SPEAK TRUTHFULY; NOT IN CODES, AS COLORESS EDOMITES! LIKES, TO DO! FOR DURING THE HOLACOST! HITLER'S MAIN MISSION, TARGETED PEOPLE, HAVING SWARTHY COMPLEXION, THE SO CALLED "BLACKS;" ISRAELITES JEW! NOTWITHSTANDING, THE EDOMITES PROPAGANDA, FUELED BY HITLER'S REGIME & DARWINISM THEORISTS; WANTED THE WORLD, TO BELIEVE, "SO CALLED, "ISH" WYTES, WERE EXTERMINATED, BY HITLER; WHO'S ALSO, AN ISH! FOR UNRIGHTEOUS CAUSES; BUT TRUTH IS, HITLER WASN'T RIGHTEOUS, AS YHWH'S TRUTH, REVEAL! IN THE BIBLE SAYING! "I KNOW THY WORKS, & TRIBULATION, & POVERTY, (but thou art rich) & I KNOW THE BLASPHEMY OF THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, & ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN; REV.2:9!" THOSE "ISH" HYPOCRITES & [HITLER REGIME], LIED; PUSHED, & WORSHIPPED A FALSE DIETY; JESUS! & DELIBERATELY SPREAD, FALSE NARRATIVES, DURING THOSE ERA! THE SWARTHY "BLACKS;" GERMANS JEW; ARE THE ONES PERSECUTED & GENOCIDED; THROWN IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IMPRISONED, GAS CHAMBERED, CASTRATED, BURNED, & BURRIED; ALL FOR THE SAKE OF EUGENICS; & TO DEPOPULATE, THE REAL JEWS; THE SWARTHY "BLACKS!" FOR REASONS BEING; WHITE INFERTILTY & INSECURITIES! RACE MIXING, & PUBLIC SUPPORT, OF HITLER'S PROMOTION OF WHITE SUPREMACY! ALSO BACKED BY, AMALEKS AGENDAS! THUS THE PICTURES OF ASHKENAZIS; SEEN IN PRISON CAMPS! WERE STAGED PROPAGANDAS! DURING WORLD WAR I & II; ERA! & WAS A PLOY, TO DEPOPULATE; RIDDING & HIDING THE SWARTHY, BLACK POPULATION! FOR THERE NUMBERS, WERE MANY! EVEN SUPPORTERS; LIKE MARGARET SANGER, A ISH, SAID; ELIMINATE THE 'HUMAN WEEDS!' BECAUSE OF HATRED & JEALOUSY, FUEL BY ELITE EUROS; WHO'S PERPETUAL HATRED OF YHWH'S PEOPLE & ISRAELITES INHERITANCE, FOR BEING, THE REAL JEW'S! MORE RESEARCH, SISTA, & MAKE SURE, TO REVEAL TRUTH, RIGHTEOUSLY! ESPECIALLY LIVING, DURING SIMILAR PERIOD! LET'S NOT HIDE, GOD'S WORD & TRUTHFUL EVENTS, UNFOLDED! SIGNS ARE EVIDENCE; WE KNOW, "& THOU SHALT BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB, & A BY WORD, AMONG ALL NATIONS WHITHER the LORD SHALL LEAD THEE; Deu.28:37!" THE DARKIES; "JEWS" WERE CALLED "SWARTHY!" SHALOM! ALL PRAISES & GLORY YHWH BAHASHAM YAHAWAHSHI!!!🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@angelmoreno6577]

"Delirium Tremens" 🤣🤣

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

You are reading too much into Franklin's statement. Here is a passage from a journal from 1745 (six years prior). It can also be verified via JSTOR. 'If we proceed from the swarthiest white Person to the palest Egyptian, from thence to the fairest Mustee, Molatto, Moor, &c. to the darkest Indian'. J. Mitchell in Philosophical Transactions 1744-5 (Royal Society) vol. 43 122 The term swarthy is figurative and was historically applied to white people with darker features.

[@user-ql1vw8wo2l]

It’s Moops

[@catherinehall2072]

My impression is that Ben Franklin was impressed with Ben Franklin. Almost everyone else failed to meet his standards.

[@nytn]

this made me really laugh out loud.😂

[@derlingerardclair6252]

@@nytn Sorry,but that Statement about German immigrants being "Swarthy & rather Stupid" made Franklin seem like kind of a Jerk!

[@markantony3875]

In other words, he was a typical WASP.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Mark Antony, Good one. Now pick another ethnic or cultural group and negatively stereotype them too. Catholics? Asians? Blacks?…don’t stop you’re on a roll.

[@markantony3875]

@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 No one else needs mentioned. WASPS are turds and everyone who isn't a WASP knows that.

[@SimonSozzi7258]

I've been watching your channel for a couple of years now. The history, the genealogy... but I only just subscribed. I love the new broad direction of your channel covering history in general. What a great opportunity 👏 Considering your own personal history.

[@nytn]

It is hard to understand my family story without this massive historical context, and there is SO much

[@kevinhamilton8211]

thanks for the info. your offerings are very interesting and helpful!

[@wilburmayorga1776]

my parents are from nicaragua and my grandma (dad's mom) descends from german catholics (austrians and bavarians). Her maiden name (mayrhauser) was traced to a bavarian named walter von mayrhauser, he was a franco-prussian war veteran who fought against the french in the bavarian army. nicaragua received large influxes of german immigrants from the mid 1800s to the early 1900s.

[@martinn.6082]

Do you speak German?

[@wilburmayorga1776]

@@martinn.6082 no, but my dad can and still does speak it fluently. he attended the german nicaraguan school since he was in kindergarten which teaches all students german from childhood to adulthood or until they graduate.

[@martinn.6082]

@@wilburmayorga1776 interesting. I'm German myself, but married to a woman originally from Mexico and we have a son together. I hope he learns both Spanish and German...

[@timeforchange3786]

I have not done much research on my German ancestors because I have focused mainly on my Virginia, Italian, and Irish ancestors. When I think of Swarthy I think of my Virginia/Tennessee, Italian, and Mexican/Native American ancestors. Swarthy was described on some of their Civil War descriptions. I never really thought of swarthy for German people. This made me Google to confirm which members and I came across the FreeAfricanAmericans website that showed white women who enslaved/indentured themselves in contracts in order to marry and free African men. I would love for you to do a video on the subject. With all the division in the world today and the assumption mixed race babies of the earliest generations must have come from rape situations, I think stories of love would be a great video.

[@PlayWaves1]

Germans from southern Germany have darker features, they were probably the largest group of German immigrants at the time.

[@marcus.g.4273]

Shaddup 😡

[@catdaddy2643]

Good info thanks for the link

[@melaniemaec1]

Very cool and interesting research with receipts. Thank you.

[@jamesvesta]

Great video. Every war is a civil war. We are like a family of step kids indeed, who really all come from the same family in reality.

[@stevehanken8520]

As a German-American, let me say this, Saxony is the largest state in Germany, not only that, but King George the third was from the house of Orange, that is he was from the Netherlands which also included parts of Saxony ! His first language was German and the reason he brought Hessians to America to fight his war with us, he knew them and spoke their language. So if Saxons were OK, where does Franklin draw the line?

[@nytn]

You are going well beyond where I did but I’m glad! I agree, this is always the problem with the little boxes, where do you draw the line? Great comment, thank you

[@Rowlph8888]

What Is the relevannce of King George?In Frranklin's time he had no power - Parliament was runnin England

[@BenjaminGessel]

Sometimes I think Franklin was more especially fond of rosy cheeked fair skinned people from NW Germany primarily (light brown, hazel, green and blue eyes all fine, blonde, red and brown hair all fine as well, but the skin color and facial shape, structure, also bodily smells, etc. should be Saxon primarily), but sometimes, I get the impression that Franklin wanted an especially godly, noble, angelic kind of European people here. I know about his beef with Samuel Keimer. I think this played into his thoughts about Germans a great deal, particularly the tendency toward extreme cultural conservativism, dogmatism (rigidity) and extreme thriftiness in Swabians, etc. The aversion to olive toned or tanned skin, black hair, etc. with some Alpine nationalities (Swiss, Austrians, Bavarians, Swabians, etc.) may have actually been secondary in intensity compared to his dislike of the German “psyche”-esp. the more severe, intense sorts of behaviors that he perceived in more Southern Germans. Whereas Franklin saw the Saxons in Northern Germany as being more calm and peaceable, like the English. Less “surly”, etc. (Heck, some of that can be attributed to diet. Northern Germans and the English have historically eaten more fish compared to Europeans further inland in the continent, like Southern Germans, who likely ate more pork and beef historically, etc. But again, that dogmatic narrow-minded whole deal with Franklin’s view of Southern Germans, that seems to factor in pretty heavily with Franklin’s outlook on Southern Germans, Swiss, Austrians, etc. I imagine that Northern Italians are similar, Hungarians, Czechs, etc. (in Franklin’s view).

[@pbegley99]

House of Hanover. His great-grandfather, George I, was the Elector (Kurfürst) of Hanover who became the British king because he was the next Protestant in line of succession. That George was the one who couldn’t speak English and spent most of his time in Hanover.

[@pbegley99]

I think you’re confusing George III with William III. He was of the House of Orange, he was a Dutch prince who deposed the Catholic James II in 1688 and married his daughter Mary. They died without issue and the throne passed to Mary’s sister Anne in 1702.

[@markantony3875]

In reading the comments, there seems to be some confusion in what "German" people Franklin was concerned about. Prior to the American independence, there was a large influx of German speaking people from the Palatinate Region of Europe. Most settled in Pennsylvania because unlike the other colonies, William Penn was accepting of them, as he considered them excellent farmers and an asset to his colony. The Palatinate Region consisted of an extended area along the Rhine River that included areas that are now in Southwestern Germany, Eastern France, and parts of Switzerland. All these people were German speaking, but not all of them were from what is now Germany. I will add that the Amish, which Pennsylvania is famous for, actually originated in Switzerland and many people who ancestors were "Pennsylvania German" when they take a DNA test and trace their ancestry back to Europe, are often surprised to learn their ancestors actually came from Eastern France.

[@mweskamppp]

eastern france or the area of "elsass-lothringen" is mainly inhabited by the tribe of the Alemannen. This tribe is also found in south west germany and switzerland. that area in east france was fought about for many centuries. the land of "Karl dem Großen" was divided under his grandsons in 843. Karl the bold got france, ludwig the german got germany and the eldest, lothar got the middle from netherlands down to Rome. lothar died early and his land got divided. remains of lothars heritage are nerherlands, belgium, luxemburg, switzerland and elsass-lotharingia.

[@bucktooth002]

Aleman in the Spanish language means German person. Very interesting.

[@pommes0078]

@@bucktooth002thats where the spanish word is from yes

[@rckoala8838]

Some of my German forebears were from the Palatine region, Mennonites who emigrated from Switzerland in the 17th century, and it's true that they were "darker", i.e. more brunette, than people of Northern Germanic descent. I have a family photo of my great-grandparents and their children, and if you told me they were Jewish I would believe it.

[@andersschmich8600]

Yeah, my paternal ancestor was an Alsatian.

[@maximuskhan2100]

This is a very informative video. I agree with you. Keep it up.

[@juniorchavesopicassodeyahu988]

Edson Romualdo had said that there were many Swarthy people in the Germany during the world wars. He have been reading vintage books about the Swarthy Germans

[@johnpatrick5307]

Henning Wehn?

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

Take a look at German footballer 'der schwatte' Ulf Kirsten - a dark complexioned white guy.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

There is an old saying in England: "The wogs begin at Calais". I'm afraid this exemplifies the sense of racial superiority the English have towards other Europeans, let alone those from outside Europe. When the English emigrated to America they brought this attitude with them. In the modern age, this hostility to other Europeans, particularly those from eastern countries, was one of the causes of Brexit.

[@free22]

Throughout history, the English have had delusions of superiority. The attitude predates British expansion. The Scottish, Welsh, and the Irish were the first to suffer from it. Baffling really. Strange mentality coming from such a small little island.

[@timeforchange3786]

Yes, many French Huguenots had swarthy complexions as well.

[@free22]

@@timeforchange3786 Strange how today, many people tan their skin to look more “swarthy” and back in the day, it was considered a bad thing.

[@timeforchange3786]

@@free22 very true, I have always thought people of mixed race were the prettiest and got the best of both worlds. I just wish all the hate, tribalism, and fighting would stop.

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@free22 Isn't it easier to feel superior on an island? Your enemies aren't as close.

[@JhutaNabi]

@NYTN Great video, Danielle! What you shared about Franklin and Hamilton was eye opening. I have so much to learn about the Founding Fathers. What sources did you use to quote Hamilton? I'm looking for primary sources for as much as I can. I found Franklin's Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind (1751) in the Library of Congress. Not as successful with Hamilton, though. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

[@dana.j9062]

You're simply amazing!! Thanks for your relentless hard work to inform us all what we never heard before.

[@nytn]

I appreciate that!☺

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

Well done, again, I have learned a lot.

[@minnaerd4412]

This is very interesting! I am German, and working on my families genealogy. By that I came over tons of ancestors who went to the US. Big numbers of early immigrants came from southern Germany, Württemberg, where more people are of darker skin- and haircolor. There is even a history of expelling poor village people, selling them to the US. (German history of immigration is quite complex, linked to political matters, Germany not being one country til 1871. Being German before that mainly meant, being from a state where german was spoken.)

[@tancreddehauteville764]

The English feel a kinship with Dutch, Frisians, Lower Saxons. Schleswig-Holsteiners and Danes. Southern Germany and Austria is traditionally viewed as Popish (Catholic) and Italian and French influenced.

[@tellitellis4117]

Thank you so much for this. Any books, films, documentaries you can recommend, would be appreciated. Alexander Von Wuthenau, a German scholar, with many books on archaelogical finds in Mexico, apparently left Germany because of disagreements with Hitler related to the concept of Whiteness. Your information seems to verify this. Any resources would be appreciated.

[@minnaerd4412]

@@tancreddehauteville764 You are right, just my Württemberg ancestors, who emigrated to the US were pious protestants...history is not always that easy.

[@Adriana-f4f2j]

I dont understand the meaning of the word swarty as in color. As far i know Germans and Scandinavians and the Irish are white ,.

[@johnpatrick5307]

@@tancreddehauteville764 The "English" are very mixed, and not particularly white. Its the Irish who are white. See: Son of Manu.

[@edwardhanson3664]

I love that you jumped into the question.

[@hayesdabney]

Love it! Just found your channel. You had me at Chopin!

[@nytn]

☺ you may be the only one who recognized that

[@corvidaeclarkenutcracker3330]

My Polish cousin always gets mistaken for Armenian and even iranian..But because he Polish people place him in white catagory

[@v.a.993]

Technically Armenians and Iranians are considered white in the U.S. (all Arab people are).

[@rocketreindeer]

My adopted sibling is Finnish. The Finns' language is completely different from the Scandinavians. Their traditional culture and spirituality was based on nature and animals, similar to First Nations cultures in North America, not the stories about Thor and Odin and all those guys from Marvel (ha ha). One theory is that they came from Indigenous tribes in Asia, i.e. Siberia, who travelled and intermarried with northern European people and eventually became the Finns. There are also Indigenous Sámi people in the Nordic countries who were mistreated and had their drums burned, and were forced to assimilate or be killed, and other horrible stuff. Today, a lot of people consider them "white", but if you look at pictures of them from a hundred years ago, many of them look almost identical to First Nations people in Canada and the U.S. Another theory is that they also originated in Asia and migrated to northern Europe and became reindeer herders. I've read people from parts of Europe say they aren't as hung up on the concept of "race" as some other countries are so insistent needs to be the lens, and don't give a rat's butt about classifying everyone into a color block. So like you, I agree that white does not seem to be an actual thing. I didn't realize Ben Franklin was such a jerk, but since people are complex, it's interesting he's one of the few founding fathers to free his slaves, because he apparently realized they weren't inferior to him. I'm not sure of the timelines of his feelings on all that. But great video, you have so much good stuff, and so many true stories to learn from.

[@carolwoodward6141]

Informative comment.

[@rocketreindeer]

@@carolwoodward6141 Thank you! I'm mixed so have had a lot of time to think about what "race" means. It's not what I thought when I was a kid.

[@jamespresident6577]

Yep All Us are One ❤

[@bonsummers2657]

Race is NOT about color. Race is about morphology,…. of which color is only one part amongst several, many, sundry,….

[@atlas567]

@ Rocket Reindeer 💩💩💩

[@avagrego3195]

Thank you for your videos.

[@kafenwar]

Interesting observation. Last year I worked in the southernmost tip of Baden-Wurttemberg, and was surprised to note that many of my co-workers down there (all full-blooded local Germans) were olive-skinned.

[@julian11d]

They have a swarthy complexion and are not white, only germans from northern germany are considered white.

[@clairecooke6268]

Another great video Danielle! I’m learning how “white” was a very changeable concept through history, and it just serves to reinforce that race isn’t actually a thing, it’s what we make it.

[@chevalierdenoir754]

WHAT IT PROVES IS THAT WHITE PPL HATE EVERYBODY EVEN THEMSELVES, IT DOESN'T GET WHITER THAN GERMAN ARYAN RACE

[@babyboy562]

You never been white you are pink recessive the true meaning of Black in the English dictionary

[@joemahony4198]

True, as a group moves into the mainstream of American life they become white, some groups faster than others.

[@bonsummers2657]

Race is clearly a biological recognition on consistent terms. There are sociological applications of racial categorization which are different than the biological categorization recognition of races.

[@davidmilton5887]

Wrong. Race is a thing. The Germans that Franklin referred to were "black". Yes,"black" people were in Europe for hundreds of years. The Crusades and Renaissances were wars against "black" people. Study history,actual history.

[@DerekFrazier2014]

I found another channel exploring this word swarthy though history and it has changed a lot of my misconception about who was darker then they show us in movies. Great posting. Ty

[@timeforchange3786]

Yes, many people try to apply definitions from today to definitions from the past. As we all know definitions are changing daily even today. Lincoln was described as dark and swarthy. It doesn't mean he was black.

[@rustydogrustydog9191]

@@timeforchange3786 Yes exactly, some of these ‘other channels’ try to use these past definitions to appropriate Native American culture, European cultures and even Japanese. It’s actually quite hilarious.

[@timeforchange3786]

@@rustydogrustydog9191 yes, it is a power grab. It comes from insecurity. The whole "Land Back" gift is using Native Americans for their ultimate goal. When they say Indigenous people they are speaking of themselves but they are trying to trick the naive. Some black people are even trying to get some of the Native American's government money by saying since they were enslaved on reservations they want part of the money. There is a much bigger picture most people aren't paying attention to.

[@DerekFrazier2014]

@@rustydogrustydog9191 Rusty and Time. It’s not to appropriate a culture to point t these things out its to show the skin tone of the people are not not all like what they show you in the movies where everyone has pale or white skin. Melanin comes in many shade and doesn’t make you black it just shows there is some in the family tree.

[@rustydogrustydog9191]

@@DerekFrazier2014 Disagree. As stated before ‘some’ channels and individuals are using this old term to muddy the waters as to the ethnicity of past individuals. I think you yourself are perfectly aware of this. Not everything swarthy meant black or brown the way we understand these terms today. Whites where called swarthy in the past and had nothing to do with black and or African.

[@bethanyrios8327]

Hi Danielle! Thanks for the video! Just wanted to throw a quick thought/ question out there as well about the German immigrants in the 1800s. My ancestor came from Germany in 1750 but with a Spanish/ Italian name. Through DNA testing ydna, we found out that particular side of my family were Sephardic Jews. I have a distant relative who is a Genealogy teacher that seems to think they were Sephardic in the 1600s in Germany but then started to integrate into German society etc. Some people believe they may have even been crypto Jews in America because of patterns of intermarriage within a small community and the fact that one of their descendants knew he was Jewish but would not/ did not tell why he didn't reveal that. Anyways, my hypothesis is that Europe is a big mix of many ethnicities and just because you are a German national doesn't make you an ethnic German. In fact, the Jewish people were under much pressure in Europe at that time and I wouldn't be surprised if other " German immigrants could be Jewish. Any thoughts?

[@nytn]

I thought about the Jewish angle, but didnt have any great sources for it while I was making this video. I think it is a really good possibility

[@r.g.murray3945]

I think you are absolutely. It was just a few years ago that I found out my Oma (German for Grandmother) was of mixed race. I always said she looked Jewish, apparently, my great-grandmother married a German Jew. it wasn't until I looked on the European map where I was born, that I saw how close I was to France and Switzerland. I always remember my mother talking about my oldest Aunt going to France to visit relatives. My mother also mentioned how they would visit family in Switzerland as well. My mother very blond but one of my aunts had dark hair and green eyes. As I got older it sparked something in me to know more about my homeland and history of the Germans. When we came the states in the early 1960's the trend was that you come here, and you assimilate. You learn the language and customs; my sister who was of school age had to learn English before she could start school which put her behind by a year. Today, there is no assimilation. I believe we have to many immigrants coming in illegally and it will reunion our economy as a nation; we can't sustain this. In history, and on television, they tried to make the Germans look like they were dumb but they were a long way from it. The Germans infiltrated the USA through project paperclip. The Americans brought many over that should have gone through the Nuremburg Trial to be hanged. Instead, the Germans were given good jobs and a new identity.

[@johaquila]

"just because you are a German national doesn't make you an ethnic German" -- That is actually kind of wrong. Would you say there is such a thing as ethnic (US) Americans, and just because you are an American national doesn't make you an ethnic American? I hope the thought makes you uncomfortable, as it's the kind of thought that tries to exclude people who have papers to show that they belong, fit in culturally, and have nowhere else to go. That's not just true for America, it's true everywhere. I have an uncle who, by an accident of nature, looks very Japanese even though we have no Japanese ancestry in our family, only a little French. Of course he is an ethnic German anyway. But the same is true for any German citizen with exclusively Japanese, or African, ancestry who grows up in Germany, speaking only German in their family. Ethnicity is about culture, not genes. There is just a major statistic correlation with genes that can suggest, but not prove, someone's ethnicity. If you think this makes no sense because it means that all those ethnic Germans, ethnic Italians, ethnic Irish etc. in the US _aren't_ -- well, that's because they really aren't. If you don't speak the language of an ethnicity and don't fit into its society because you have totally different values and have never lived there, then you are not part of it. In America the concept of ethnicity, as it relates to the immigrants' countries of origin, diverged from the original concept.

[@sadiev]

Yes. My father's family were Dutch (Norman) and came to new Amsterdam NYC on 1st ships in 1624. Many Sephardic Jews and Muslims moors were expelled from Spain and came to amsterdam . Many came to Dutch colonies. There were very few colonists so as long as they converted to Dutch reform they were allowed to marry into Dutch families in the colonies. The term black Dutch refers to many things in US but in my grandfather's case it is the Sephardic Jews mixed with Dutch colonists. Very swarthy. It is funny Ben didn't have anything to say about the Dutch in colonial America even though they kept their language until the 1930s. The Dutch West India company kept detailed records and most are online now. M

[@MagnaMater2]

They could be jewish without knowing it. My mother's DNA-Test came back with 13%Sephard. I did her family tree and during the 18th century I found several women that had no catholic paper trail before their showing up as wives at birthing kids, but without having added birth-family-names, like the other women. I came across an article that during the counterreformation children were seized from non-catholic families to be monastry raised. And these kidnapping-victims weren't just protestants, as it was general knowledge, but also Jews, Muslims and Sinti&Rom. Those monastery-raised girls obviously were part of a marriage-brokering for widowed farmers with many kids. I also found hints of 'crypto-jews' - mainly inkeeps but also travelling tradesmen, stone-masons, river-boat-men and musicians with names that were just their job-description or a colour, and that had a rather odd marriage pattern with getting wives from unusual long distance that would need professional marriage brokering and the families of the wives - or their mothers - often having romanic family-names.

[@Ann-ub4mf]

EXCELLENT video! Thank You. 😊❤ I didn't know about Franklin's animosity towards the Germans but I'm not surprised or shocked. 🙄😒

[@francisebbecke2727]

My ancestors came from Germany to Pennsylvania about the time Franklin was saying this. They settled in Elizabethtown, PA.

[@George-zd6rb]

Francis,IT is not the Pennsylvania Dutch, That term was bastsrdarized by Americans. IT'S DEUTCH-GERMAN

[@ProudAngloIrishScotWelshUlster]

That’s the bad thing about Pennsylvania. An English colony is now Germanized

[@swagkachu3784]

Whats with your english supremacy? Brits lost the war​@@ProudAngloIrishScotWelshUlster

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

But why? They should’ve gone somewhere else where they actually speak German.

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

Poor farmers huh?

[@patriceesela5000]

As an African living in Europe, this white on white xenophobia is kinda fascinating especially these days. I've witnessed an english man from the south being called a racist because of his expressed dislike for the English from the North😂😂😂 People can't tell the difference between xenophobia and racism

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

That is because for decades the British working class have been hounded from all corners. Indeed even Brexit was considered in some quarters as 'racist', which in itself speaks volumes.

[@simmorg290]

This has kind of become official these days. Recently Diane Abbott, a black British politician, said that prejudice against the Irish is not racism since they're white. She was forced to apologise and her political party, and many others, said that she was wrong.

[@patriceesela5000]

@@simmorg290 Interesting, was she the one doing the offending?

[@simmorg290]

@@patriceesela5000 No it wasn't her and I think she was only talking about the past not the present. Although people did say her statement itself was racist.

[@shanesprecher8290]

I’ve also heard a person from southern England mention the northern English are a different race. I know that even in the US the southern English mainly settled along the eastern seaboard while the northern English settled inland, so maybe you’re right.

[@peterweiss123]

nice commentary, love it!

[@nytn]

Hey, thanks!

[@hansemmen3862]

❤ Love the vid, great job! This resignates because my mothers family came here in 1744 from Badenheim Rhein-Pfalz to Norh Carolina.

[@nytn]

Wow, Hans, thanks for the comment. This is literally about your family 😮

[@hansemmen3862]

@@nytn Yes it is! Your videos are amazing!! I’m relieved that your here educating our fellow countrymen so that we might understand each other better .

[@joanhuffman2166]

The Germans that Franklin describes did, in fact, maintain their German language up to WWI. I have one great grandfather who was a descendant of those early ethnic Germans. He was the 7th generation born in Pennsylvania. While he was not swarthy, his first language was German. He had a thick accent all his life even though he lived and married outside of his community of origin as a young man.

[@donjindra]

Exactly. Franklin was making empirical observations.

[@joanhuffman2166]

@Don Jindra His judgment that they were poorly educated was premature, I have no doubt. But people who have just arrived in a foreign country, fleeing the devastation of war, desperately poor at the moment don't always give the best impression to the natives. An ethnic German from somewhere along the Rhine River would be unlikely to speak English. French, Dutch, Italian, or a local Slavic language would be far more likely as a second language for them. Their clothes would be strange, foreign, and travel worn. They may have pawned nearly everything they had just to get there. Franklin's own French was not of the highest quality. Two people trying to communicate in a third language often find that neither speaks nor understands it well enough for mutual communication.

[@donjindra]

@@joanhuffman2166 "His judgment that they were poorly educated was premature, " Maybe so, maybe not. Neither of us were there to know the situation. But he is merely saying that the poorly educated Germans are the ones arriving in America. He is not saying all Germans are poorly educated.

[@joanhuffman2166]

@@donjindra I only say that appearances can be misleading. Newly arrived refugees don't make the best appearance at first. English speaking Americans had a different opinion of their German neighbors in a short period of time.

[@donjindra]

@@joanhuffman2166 I'm saying there is a difference between being wrong and being a bigot.

[@recieve.believe3344]

So interesting that German people are more homogenous than British people who later became Americans through their independence from British rule. The British historically are a mix of different Native Celtic peoples, Roman invaders who later made part of Britain part of the Romam Empire. Later after Rome's fall, Germanic tribes (Anglo Saxons, from modern day Germany, Jutes from modern Denmark), Viking Raiders from Norway/Sweden, all a mixture of different groups of people added to the mixture of present day British people. the English language itself is not a "pure" language but a mixture of different languages brought over by the different invading groups.

[@Rowlph8888]

It's funny how people mention angles from Denmark and Saxons from Germany.This is complete spurious, because Saxony did not exist until the 8th century(An and even that was different from the modern Saxony), Denmark did not exist until the 10th century.Those people that came over in the 5th century, when in that landmass that in the future would become Denmark and Saxony, were as much English as they were German, because these terms meant nothing until generations after they were 1st attributed to the people, who then would then begin to get an embedded identity in reference to the terms aand other people similarly identifying. Those people coming over weren't or Danish in anyway whatsoever.Then a couple of generations after they moved in Britain annd mixed with the indigenous they became something else entirely.

[@MaineCoonMama18]

I love what you said about seeing each other as a family! We really are all so much more alike than we are different, but those cultural differences are also a big part of us, our country and our world. Most of my ancestry is English, but I also have Irish and German ancestry. Plus half of my family is from the northern U.S. and half is from the south. Thinking about my ancestors and history often leads to tense feelings because they often fought & hated each other, along with hating & oppressing other cultures. It's an awkward balance between accepting & even embracing where I came from while intensely disliking what many of my ancestors thought & did.

[@johaquila]

As a German, I am not shocked by this. I _was_ shocked when I first learned that the Irish were once not considered white. That's just ridiculous if you assume it's really about skin color as the term 'white' suggests. The idea that most Germans are blond and have blue eyes, or that we all have _particularly_ light skin is ridiculous. Our language came from Scandinavia, but only a small part of our genes. The Nazis even had an insane breeding program to make Germans Nordic, but on average we never actually were. (Look for "Lebensborn" if you want to know more.) Germany has always been a melting pot right in the center of Europe, although we also have significant internal diversity even today. (I am sure I could easily tell whether a crowd of people wearing neutral clothing is from the North, the South-West or the South-East.) We have roughly equal proportions of the three major groups that make up Europeans: (Western) Hunter-Gatherers, Early European Farmers, and Indo-Europeans. At least since we were colonized by the Romans 2000 years ago, we have had a strong connection to Italy, which is far enough in the south for people to have a relatively dark, Mediterranean/Middle Eastern complexion. I think most Germans who moved to America were farm workers, so they were tanned from working outside all day. A conspicuous subgroup were the Amish and Mennonite people from Switzerland who had first been welcomed in South-West Germany, but had got into conflict with the authorities there as well due to their extreme religiosity and complete rejection of military service. They sought to lead a life just like people in the Bible and rejected any technologies that might get into the way. Some still reject electricity in their homes today; of course Franklin had no sympathy for them. Franklin's concept of 'white' here seems to be based on a distinction between 'worthy to be a citizen' and 'potential slave material'. This particular form of racism arises in a race-based slavery system. Europe profited from such a system, but essentially never had it on the continent itself. This is why racism in Europe is different than in the US. There was never a need to tell at a glance whether someone is a slave. In particular, when people are obviously 'mixed race' or from a 'race' that looks very European, such as many native Americans, most of us here in Europe genuinely don't see them as belonging to another 'race' at all.

[@johaquila]

@@Momoa786 Look at a photo of Adolf Hitler, for example, and think about how 'Germanic' he looks. He was Austrian, but that's essentially the same as South-East German (Bavarian), and he came from a border town anyway. (Hitler is a popular example for this because it demonstrates how silly the Nazi 'Aryan' concept was that a lot of people still take seriously.) You seem to be mistaking 'Germanic' for a 'race' or something that people have in their DNA. But in reality it is a culture. Germans in the North, and Dutch people even more, on average look a lot like Scandinavian and Baltic people. They may have got it from Scandinavians who brought their genes along with their language, or it may have been there before as they were related to the Balts. Most likely both. But in the more populous South that's not true. Here most people look more like French people or people in and beyond the Alps. If you look at genetic distribution maps for traces of the various prehistoric populations such as Western Hunter-Gatherers, Early European Farmers, Western Steppe Herders and many others, you will see that for most of them, Germany is not homogeneous. Almost all are noticeably more common at one end than at the other. Scandinavia and the Baltics are particularly associated with Western Hunter-Gatherers. The corresponding genes, some of which seem to be responsible for typical 'Scandinavian' features, make up about a third of the Genes of North Germans, and a fourth of South Germans. This difference is significant. It means that these features are noticeable in slightly over half of North Germans, but too diluted to be noticeable in most South Germans.

[@bierlichen1]

No such thing as Middle East. It's the land of Canaan and Canaan is the grandson of Ham who is swarthy burnt, Dark, Black.

[@jazzluver9749]

Love what you are doing. You could write a book using your great research "what it means to be american"

[@atlas567]

AMERICANS IS AMERICANS PEOPLES OF THE AMERICAN CONTINENT 👉 BRAZILIANS , ARGENTINIANS, MEXICANS , CANADIANS, COLOMBIANS, BOLIVIANS IS AMERICANS

[@denisehenry3427]

South. Americans is a part of the America's. We have North America 🇺🇸 and South America.

[@sabeenie21]

Another good read is ‘Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America: A Genealogical History’. You’ll find out more about some of these swarthy/Sephardic European peoples.

[@broski7106]

🤔🧐……. You’re swarthy…..

[@sabeenie21]

@@broski7106 👍🏽

[@curtisthomas2670]

Jews were described by an American "anthropologist" as being a mixture of the "Mediterranean race" and negroes. Others claimed they picked up some "black blood" from living amongst the descendants of Canaan the descendant of Ham.

[@yakzivz1104]

@Glen Ros Franklin did not generalized. He simply stated the facts that most Europeans were dark skin people.

[@yakzivz1104]

these people do not want to learn real history. They want to hold on to their lies.

[@davidmehling4310]

Depending on genealogy or ancestry test, I'm 70 to 80 percent German and that's also a bit fuzzy because my dad's mom's parents came from Alsace-Lorraine. Found out about Franklin's views on German immigrants from an online friend who lives in Pennsylvania, who is Deitsch aka Pennsylvania Dutch and is involved in keeping the culture and language alive. Ironic that at least until the Revolution, Colonists would look down on Germans as King George III was of the House of Hannover (German) and his wife Charlotte was from Mecklenburg in the northern part of what would become East Germany. I've read in the early years of their marriage they spoke German to each other until she learned English

[@Rowlph8888]

King George = Hanover = North Germany=White

[@victorhughgo2376]

Thank you for sharing that relevant historical information.

[@jamesschmehl5972]

Hi Mr. David! your last name caught me off guard...mine is SCHMEHL..I have been told that we also came from alsace-loraine..that's just too neat.!

[@davidmehling4310]

@@jamesschmehl5972 My dad's mom's parents came from there with the surname Molyet likely in the 1890s. My surname Mehling (at least those I'm descended from) traces back to Bavaria and a family who left in 1849. The name similarly is a coincidence

[@jamesschmehl5972]

@davidmehling4310 thanks for the reply Mr.Dave.

[@mycenth22]

I just want to take the time to thank you for sharing your history and your journey with us. Watching your videos and seeing how you learn and uncover the facets and secrets of your family is enlightening to us all. While you may be probably undergoing your own revelations, we the viewer are experiencing our own. And your critical thought on race, history, lineage, family, society etc and how they intersect has been a very gratifying experience for us all. Thank you for sharing!

[@nytn]

Wow, this made my week, Im serious. Sometimes Im like...what am I even doing with these videos? But I keep connecting the dots...

[@ALL_KNOWING_GURU]

in 1942 when Meyer Lansky applied for WW2 the U.S. government classified him as "dark complexioned" (which according to Kurimeo's scholastic logic would mean Meyer Lansky and the Israeli mob were Akon's color.)

[@LALew850]

I had no idea about Ben Franklin. Another very interesting video. Something to think about as I look at the German side of my tree who came to the United States as indentured servants in the mid 1700’s.

[@ProudAngloIrishScotWelshUlster]

They came to English colonies

[@slimmamba7208]

Nice video!

[@soguimesarl2012]

Great video

[@tommygamba170]

I'm glad you're learning history

[@archiesinclair6252]

I'm a west Highland Scotsman. Like all Celts we didn't get to be white people for a long time lol. My paternal grandmother was Irish. She used to tell me about the signs in hotel windows in London 'no blacks. No dogs. No Scots or Irish. Here in Scotland the clans of the North west were barely considered human by their own lowland country men and women....'if a heeland man is alone with a woman - he will not read the psalms to her'. 'They are never hungry in the deeps of winter. Pity their children'. Charming old folk sayings lol. Truth is we are all just people.

[@nytn]

Archie, this was absolutely wild to read. Thank you for sharing

[@paul9583]

SPEAK TRUTHFULY; NOT IN CODES, AS COLORESS EDOMITES! LIKES, TO DO! FOR DURING THE HOLACOST! HITLER'S MAIN MISSION, TARGETED PEOPLE, HAVING SWARTHY COMPLEXION, THE SO CALLED "BLACKS;" ISRAELITES JEW! NOTWITHSTANDING, THE EDOMITES PROPAGANDA, FUELED BY HITLER'S REGIME & DARWINISM THEORISTS; WANTED THE WORLD, TO BELIEVE, "SO CALLED, "ISH" WYTES, WERE EXTERMINATED, BY HITLER; WHO'S ALSO, AN ISH! FOR UNRIGHTEOUS CAUSES; BUT TRUTH IS, HITLER WASN'T RIGHTEOUS, AS YHWH'S TRUTH, REVEAL! IN THE BIBLE SAYING! "I KNOW THY WORKS, & TRIBULATION, & POVERTY, (but thou art rich) & I KNOW THE BLASPHEMY OF THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, & ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN; REV.2:9!" THOSE "ISH" HYPOCRITES & [HITLER REGIME], LIED; PUSHED, & WORSHIPPED A FALSE DIETY; JESUS! & DELIBERATELY SPREAD, FALSE NARRATIVES, DURING THOSE ERA! THE SWARTHY "BLACKS;" GERMANS JEW; ARE THE ONES PERSECUTED & GENOCIDED; THROWN IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IMPRISONED, GAS CHAMBERED, CASTRATED, BURNED, & BURRIED; ALL FOR THE SAKE OF EUGENICS; & TO DEPOPULATE, THE REAL JEWS; THE SWARTHY "BLACKS!" FOR REASONS BEING; WHITE INFERTILTY & INSECURITIES! RACE MIXING, & PUBLIC SUPPORT, OF HITLER'S PROMOTION OF WHITE SUPREMACY! ALSO BACKED BY, AMALEKS AGENDAS! THUS THE PICTURES OF ASHKENAZIS; SEEN IN PRISON CAMPS! WERE STAGED PROPAGANDAS! DURING WORLD WAR I & II; ERA! & WAS A PLOY, TO DEPOPULATE; RIDDING & HIDING THE SWARTHY, BLACK POPULATION! FOR THERE NUMBERS, WERE MANY! EVEN SUPPORTERS; LIKE MARGARET SANGER, A ISH, SAID; ELIMINATE THE 'HUMAN WEEDS!' BECAUSE OF HATRED & JEALOUSY, FUEL BY ELITE EUROS; WHO'S PERPETUAL HATRED OF YHWH'S PEOPLE & ISRAELITES INHERITANCE, FOR BEING, THE REAL JEW'S! MORE RESEARCH, SISTA, & MAKE SURE, TO REVEAL TRUTH, RIGHTEOUSLY! ESPECIALLY LIVING, DURING SIMILAR PERIOD! LET'S NOT HIDE, GOD'S WORD & TRUTHFUL EVENTS, UNFOLDED! SIGNS ARE EVIDENCE; WE KNOW, "& THOU SHALT BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB, & A BY WORD, AMONG ALL NATIONS WHITHER the LORD SHALL LEAD THEE; Deu.28:37!" THE DARKIES; "JEWS" WERE CALLED "SWARTHY!" SHALOM! ALL PRAISES & GLORY YHWH BAHASHAM YAHAWAHSHI!!!🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@RebelKing00]

At least you’re not German (as per Franklin 😅)

[@blizzy6392]

How did Ben Franklin et al feel about the French whom they were allied? Interesting to make a comparison. Was it about "race" or about a threat to the new republic and culture?

[@craigkdillon]

Interesting. Your source seems good and scholarly. It does surprise me, seeing how enlightened he was regarding the Indians. He admired them. At the Albany Indian Congress of 1755, he suggested the confederation of the colonies with their own Parliament -- using the Iroquois Confederacy as his model.

[@nytn]

Yes you are 100% right. I did a video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5PToYxpedWgicU

[@swanm3ta850]

Ok so who are these swarthy Germans he talks about? In a letter, he said that the Germans of his time were of a darker complexion and called Germany one of the “sons of Africa.” The other sons of Africa were France, Sweden, Spain, and Italy. So to Ben, white was also a skin complexion. The name of the essay is “Observations Concerning The Increasing Of Mankind, Peopling Of Countries.”

[@timeforchange3786]

Some people thought the Romas came from Egypt and is where the term Gypsies came from. I believe people think they were originally from India.

[@johnnyearp52]

Sweden?

[@swanm3ta850]

@@johnnyearp52 yeah man, it tripped me out too. The name of the essay is “Observations Concerning The Increasing Of Mankind, Peopling Of Countries.” It’s an easy find on google.

[@beth3535]

During Roman occupation along the Rhine, etc., Nubians (perhaps others as well?) were part of the legion. Beethoven’s swarthy complexion has been explained that way.

[@ryan7864]

@@beth3535 Ehhh... I wouldn't put too much stock in that theory. As an amateur Roman enthusiast, I can say.... the vast number of Roman Army recruits came from where a legion was stationed. Legions along the Rhine were mostly of Gaulish and Germanic heritage. Along the Danube it was Thracians, Greeks, Dacian and many others. Along the Parthian frontier it was mostly Syrian and Semitic. Sub-Saharan recruits were a rarity and would mostly be confined to Roman Africa posts.

[@OSTARTFOTO]

Chopin in background? :) Nice :)

[@meenalaregina7770]

Hi! How are you? Benjamin’s grip of English ethnicity and history was at best tenuous. The English and the Germans share many common historical and cultural ties. For example, English comes from German, eg words such as house and mouse. English ethnicity is as mixed as any other group. I wonder if Benjamin would have levelled such a critiques in his monarch’s, King George’s court, or he would have lacked the courage, since Augusta Princess of Wales, mother of King George III, was German. Methinks that Benjamin ate too many sour apples. What a lovely, informative video.🙏🏽

[@davidcooper177]

altro bel video bellissimo. portandoci questo tipo di informazioni ci aiuta a capirci molto meglio. L'istruzione è il modo per migliorare la civiltà umana. Grazie

[@johnprentice1527]

Again, let me thank you for your channel. The issues of race, ethnicity, and immigration are so central to what we are as Americans and we desperately need to come to grips with the irony and hypocrisy of our nativist thinking. Keep doing what you're doing.

[@jamesvesta]

Fascinating that Germans came in and made their own communities. It's similar to what today's Spanish speaking communities do today. And I've always thought that wasn't necessarily a good idea. But in fact, over time, that the Germans did this benefitted us. The way you tell the story leads me to believe that there was a population boom in the colonies or early US during that time, and so they felt confident that they were superior. Especially if they had slave labor sadly, but wanting to give credit where credit is due.

[@paul9583]

SPEAK TRUTHFULY; NOT IN CODES, AS COLORESS EDOMITES! LIKES, TO DO! FOR DURING THE HOLACOST! HITLER'S MAIN MISSION, TARGETED PEOPLE, HAVING SWARTHY COMPLEXION, THE SO CALLED "BLACKS;" ISRAELITES JEW! NOTWITHSTANDING, THE EDOMITES PROPAGANDA, FUELED BY HITLER'S REGIME & DARWINISM THEORISTS; WANTED THE WORLD, TO BELIEVE, "SO CALLED, "ISH" WYTES, WERE EXTERMINATED, BY HITLER; WHO'S ALSO, AN ISH! FOR UNRIGHTEOUS CAUSES; BUT TRUTH IS, HITLER WASN'T RIGHTEOUS, AS YHWH'S TRUTH, REVEAL! IN THE BIBLE SAYING! "I KNOW THY WORKS, & TRIBULATION, & POVERTY, (but thou art rich) & I KNOW THE BLASPHEMY OF THEM WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, & ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN; REV.2:9!" THOSE "ISH" HYPOCRITES & [HITLER REGIME], LIED; PUSHED, & WORSHIPPED A FALSE DIETY; JESUS! & DELIBERATELY SPREAD, FALSE NARRATIVES, DURING THOSE ERA! THE SWARTHY "BLACKS;" GERMANS JEW; ARE THE ONES PERSECUTED & GENOCIDED; THROWN IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IMPRISONED, GAS CHAMBERED, CASTRATED, BURNED, & BURRIED; ALL FOR THE SAKE OF EUGENICS; & TO DEPOPULATE, THE REAL JEWS; THE SWARTHY "BLACKS!" FOR REASONS BEING; WHITE INFERTILTY & INSECURITIES! RACE MIXING, & PUBLIC SUPPORT, OF HITLER'S PROMOTION OF WHITE SUPREMACY! ALSO BACKED BY, AMALEKS AGENDAS! THUS THE PICTURES OF ASHKENAZIS; SEEN IN PRISON CAMPS! WERE STAGED PROPAGANDAS! DURING WORLD WAR I & II; ERA! & WAS A PLOY, TO DEPOPULATE; RIDDING & HIDING THE SWARTHY, BLACK POPULATION! FOR THERE NUMBERS, WERE MANY! EVEN SUPPORTERS; LIKE MARGARET SANGER, A ISH, SAID; ELIMINATE THE 'HUMAN WEEDS!' BECAUSE OF HATRED & JEALOUSY, FUEL BY ELITE EUROS; WHO'S PERPETUAL HATRED OF YHWH'S PEOPLE & ISRAELITES INHERITANCE, FOR BEING, THE REAL JEW'S! MORE RESEARCH, SISTA, & MAKE SURE, TO REVEAL TRUTH, RIGHTEOUSLY! ESPECIALLY LIVING, DURING SIMILAR PERIOD! LET'S NOT HIDE, GOD'S WORD & TRUTHFUL EVENTS, UNFOLDED! SIGNS ARE EVIDENCE; WE KNOW, "& THOU SHALT BECOME AN ASTONISHMENT, A PROVERB, & A BY WORD, AMONG ALL NATIONS WHITHER the LORD SHALL LEAD THEE; Deu.28:37!" THE DARKIES; "JEWS" WERE CALLED "SWARTHY!" SHALOM! ALL PRAISES & GLORY YHWH BAHASHAM YAHAWAHSHI!!!🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@davidmilton5887]

What ? You are way off. Franklin was stating that the Germans were black people. Swarthy comes from the word "schwarz". Schwarz means black.

[@paul9583]

POINT BEING MADE; CODE TALKING! MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY; NATO & IT'S ALLIES ARE TRYING TO HIDE! BUT THANKFULLY, THERE'S A REAL GOD; YHWH!!! & EVILDOERS WILL RECEIVE THEIR JUDGMENTS & RIGHTEOUS JUSTICE ⚖️!!! ALL PRAISES & GLORY YHWH BAHASHAM YAHAWAHSHI!!!🔥🔥🔥🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@12tanuha21]

@@davidmilton5887 English replaced Schwarz with Black. Swarthy got the new meaning of dark skinned. It don't mean black, but darker than a Brit.

[@shahanarif4295]

Tanusha Lol he is talking about amish Germans if you take DNA their ancestry came from North eastern france

[@RememberKatrina2005]

Other Europeans who were not considered white; Jews, Irish, Italians and German. Swarthy indicated 'dark skin'.

[@Alf-gx9wj]

Russians, Swedes. Everyone except the English, even though the Stewart's were black.

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

You are reading too much into Franklin's statement. Here is a passage from a journal from 1745 (six years prior). It can also be verified via JSTOR. 'If we proceed from the swarthiest white Person to the palest Egyptian, from thence to the fairest Mustee, Molatto, Moor, &c. to the darkest Indian'. J. Mitchell in Philosophical Transactions 1744-5 (Royal Society) vol. 43 122 The term swarthy is figurative and was historically applied to white people with darker features.

[@uykarl]

American culture, customs and cuisine didn't come from just England. America got their culture from other countries, other cultures. Keeping a decorated tree in your home on Christmas is a German or Scandinavian pagan tradition that predates the Scandinavian and German people's conversion to Christianity. The custom of decorating eggs on Easter originated in Eastern Europe. Carving a jack-o-lantern on Halloween is an Irish custom from Ireland. Laying a wreath on Christmas is an tradition that originated in Ancient Greece. Hamburgers and hotdogs, a traditional American food, originated in Germany. Pizza and spaghetti, that Americans are fond of, are from Italy. French fries were thought to come from Belgium or France. Italians, Germans, Irish and other immigrants didn't leave their culture behind in their homelands. They brought their culture along to America. America is a multicultural melting pot of various cultures.

[@kellymartin3412]

Actually pizza originated from Greece. The Italians just improved upon it!

[@uykarl]

@@kellymartin3412 yes but it was the italians who introduced pizza to america.

[@kellymartin3412]

@@uykarl yes the Italians did introduce pizza to America, but if you grew up in New England, especially Massachusetts, then you know that every town has a house of pizza and every house of pizza is owned by Greeks! And they will be the first to tell you that the Italians didn’t invent pizza, it was the Greeks! Lol

[@uykarl]

@@kellymartin3412 house of pizza? So greeks don't call them pizzeria. I see. Well, we can agree pizza was not invented in america. Imagine what american food would be like without hamburgers, hotdogs, pizza, french fries and spaghetti, all of which were introduced by non-british immigrants. It would be as bad as british food which has been rated the worst food in the world

[@BN.ja05]

The beloved american buckaroos/cowboys came from spanish vaqueros and later on mexicans left their imprint with tex/mex and chicano culture.

[@ProudAngloIrishScotWelshUlster]

I don’t understand the complexion part, but indeed Ben Franklin feared about a “loss of culture” as Pennsylvania was rooted and grounded by the English. He didn’t want to see the loss of English culture

[@Alf-gx9wj]

Swarthy meant dark skinned, black. Try the Noel Webster's 1828 dictionary

[@starflakey]

the obsession with darkness has never really had to look at itself in a way your vid inspires me to. interesting that even in franklin's time there was a large german ancestry component to the british royal family, presumably where he tangenitially "came from" ty for another stimulating story

[@ryan7864]

The colonial racial hierarchy is mostly started by the Spanish Colonizers. They had a strict caste system pyramid; Blanco (White) at the top, then Mestizo (Mixed), Native, then Slaves. You should do a video just on that subject.

[@nytn]

This is a great idea, I’ll definitely do this!

[@EliMardirossian]

Oh trust me the wokes do not want to go dig in that direction because then they're gonna find out the spaniards picked that tradition of basing social hierarchies on race and skin color from ARAB MUSLIM colonisers who colonized spain during the 'Andalus' era which... goes against the politically correct ideology of wokeness 😂 watch that person make a video about that though but conveniently omit all those historical facts as well as the fact racial supremacy and race science were first theorized by north african scholars such as Ibn Khaldun long before any european thinker went down that route... I mean that person made a whole video about Armenians being white in america since 1925 yet they're yet to make a similar video about arabs also attaining whiteness around that same era 👀

[@BN.ja05]

The way the english and other brits discriminated people of color and even other europeans has nothing to do with the way the Spanish discriminated the different peoples living on their realms. The English backed up their racial hatred using scientific racism as the source of logical evidence to justify their wrongdoings, scientific racism was very popular a couple of centuries ago in european countries were the Illustration was also popular (especially amongst protestants) and one of its most nefarious consequences until today was the development of eugenics. The Spanish and the Portuguese never used scientific racism and other racial ideas derived from the illustration period as a framework to discriminate against anyone. In the territories controlled by Spain and Portugal you were discriminated against if you were not a catholic, if you were not loyal to the reigning monarch and if you were not part of the nobility or related to the high spheres of political, and/or religious and economical powers. A descendant of nahuatl or incan nobles had way more power and influence than a peninsular spanish peasant or commmoner, even if said noble had clear native facial features and the spaniard was "white", even enslaved people could obtain freedom if they paid for it, guess were the family of the last Inca lives today? Perú? wrong, Spain!, The caste system you speak of better describes the situation in India or South Africa, or New Zealand or Canada, or Australia or the USA before the abolition of slavery, racial segregation/apartheid and the anti-interracial marriage laws were deemed illegal during the 20th century, meanwhile the Spanish and the Portuguese had legalized interracial marriages centuries ago. Also, the Spanish were not colonizers and they never had colonies since they didn't replace the original native populations with their own, they intermarried the natives since the very start, creating a mixed population that's still the majority on most hispanic countries, unlike the countries that used to be part of the english crown, plus the new territories that were conquered (not colonized) were integrated as independent viceroyalties and captaincies inside the Spanish empire and were governed over exactly the same as the provinces back in the peninsula, Portugal had coastal factories and later on large plantations that resemble an anglo colony but they're still pretty different in any other aspect. Spain and Portugal have always been different from england/the uk, why do you expect the 3 of them to do everything even remotely similarly just becaurse they use to have empires? Literally their only similarities apart from that are the continent they are located on, being christians (catholics and most protestants are pretty different theologically) and hating the French, nothing more nothing else.

[@liveandinstereo]

We'll yeah. That's the whole "black legend" that the Anglo world created against Spain. In some way, the propaganda is understandable, it began during their greatest rivalry. But yeah, the Spanish had no issues marrying natives. The caste system was real but, with time, became less relevant. Evidence of this were the natives with titles of nobility. In the case of Peru, specifically, the noble Incas had the royal scepter and had the power to speak for the King of Spain, something that the Spanish colonizers themselves did not have. It's all history and all public knowledge. You just gotta get into the books.

[@gazoontight]

I did not know about this, but I can't say that I'm surprised.

[@alireid5874]

I read a book in college called "How the Irish Became White".

[@nytn]

I did a video pulling from that book a little bit! I dont agree with Ignatiev 100% but it was fascinating: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iofYo5hjrpmFpqM

[@johnpatrick5307]

Stupid. The Irish were white, are white - are the whitest people in Europe (See: Son of Manu).

[@nytn]

Sure, but why are there tons of primary sources from the 19th century “proving” that the Irish were “of a colored race” and showing skull comparisons to apes and Africans? It was all a religious issue masquerading through racial attacks

[@TheNphillips]

@@johnpatrick5307The British regularly called themselves decedents of God and the Irish descendants of Apes. Abraham Lincoln, in the Lincoln-Douglass debates repeatedly referred to Irish an a distinctly different race apart from white people. What I’m curious is for present day Irish descendants to call themselves "white" how do they shed the centuries deep history of "white” people oppressing them?

[@youvasquez]

thanks for referring to source documents.

[@nytn]

You bet! There is not point without them. Otherwise it's all...opinion

[@frederickgriffith7004]

This is why I have always said that our great nation has yet to acknowledge its centuries of hate culture.But then people tend to get very defensive.How can a nation of freedom and prosperity possibly have a hate culture?And they tend to think that I am referring to just people of African Ancestry where much of that hatred is directed.And as soon as they think that,then they say i am exaggerating and trying to play the victim card.But in reality American society during its history has always found a group(s) that they didn't like.The key has always been,at what point does a society decide to take its foot off the necks of the groups that they don't like.And then when that happens when do such groups began to enjoy greater upward social mobility and social acceptance.What astounded me is when one day out of curiosity I googled "Major racial and ethnic riots in US history".Boy was that list long.Meaning you had groups from all backgrounds clashing against one another at one time or another.Causing injury, property damage and death.I had no idea that Arabs had clashed with the Chinese.IN 1906.For instance.Its important to understand this history and be humbled by it.And understand that it wouldn't take much for a madman Candidate to finally light that match of a racial and ethnic tinderbox.America has always been flammable from its inception.

[@donjindra]

This video is lying. Franklin did not hate the Germans.

[@TheNphillips]

@@donjindrano you are lying about the video. Unchince your panties and educate yourself with facts.

[@jonesameal1798]

Hate culture came from white folks.

[@abstract5249]

@@donjindra You're right. He didn't hate them, he just looked down on them.

[@bruce5868]

Any country with multiple ethnicities or religions will always have clashes. This is why a unified identity is so important. We must all fly the same flag and speak the same language. Otherwise this country will fall apart.

[@honeycone1]

I have Benjamín Franklin books in 1751 speech there was a black German king George the 2, sitting on the throne in England..

[@lightofchicagoproductionz9012]

THAT DOSNT MEAN HE WAS BLACK IDIOT

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

Dark featured, not black.

[@Alf-gx9wj]

Swarthy means black according the 1828 Noel Websters dictionary. You're either only looking at modern dictionaries or it doesn't matter what books before 1850s and dictionaries say what swarthy means.

[@ShaunPhillipslimitlessfx]

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 The name given to him by his mother was, “Black Boy”.

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

@@ShaunPhillipslimitlessfx Because he had black hair.

[@joanhuffman2166]

Germans have always had a few brown individuals. Consider the name Brunhilda from German mythology. It literally means Brown Hilda. But because of Hitler people stereotype Germans as blond and blue-eyed. If you pick up storybooks of Heidi so many times, she is illustrated as having blond braids. The book describes her as having short, curly black hair.

[@nytn]

Yes! My kids have a vintage version of Heidi and I was surprised by her original hair color

[@davidsteiner3221]

Heidi is Swiss

[@joanhuffman2166]

@David Steiner and ethnically German. Heidi is a nickname for Adelheid.

[@johnnyearp52]

Even Hitler did not have blond hair. He was just obsessed with blond people even though he was not one himself.

[@jonesameal1798]

88% of modern history is whitewashed.

[@katttmandoo]

My family has a lot of German roots from both sides and my 2nd great grandfather coming here in abt 1830 on my dads side. My dad my brother and I all have “olive” skin tone. My dad and brother stayed more tan my dad more so then my brother, I myself can go from average Caucasian skin tone to extremely tan, with no burn, I used to regularly wear baby oil outside. My sister did not inherit that portion of our German roots as she has a fairer complexion and gets sun poisoning very easily… there’s a photo of my dad and me and my sister and she doesn’t look related to us other then facial features because her skin tone is so much lighter. While all us girls, grandkids included are blonde with blue or green eyes. My brother born blonde turned dark brown hair and a handful of redheads in my mothers side as well. My mother was a red head who tanned extremely well, most likely from the strong German roots on half her family. On my mothers side my 10th great grandfather came here from Germany in 1639 on “The fire of Troy” ship.

[@benavraham4397]

"Swarthy" in English is akin to German SCHWARTZ which means "black."

[@ryan7864]

Strictly speaking yes. But Franklin is using the term in an 18th colloquial way... a broad term to describe uncouth.

[@2Muchpjp]

​@@ryan7864he specifically used the word complexion adter using swarthy. Uncouth refers to deneaner. Complexion refers to skin tone.

[@user-ox2gb4ty2w]

​@@2Muchpjp People just won't admit that there must have been lots of blacks in Europe at this time

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

​@@2MuchpjpThe term 'complexion' was historically used to denote the hair and eye colour of white people. The Websters Dictionary of 1828 defines the term 'complexion' as 'the colour of the external parts of the body', which is what hair and eyes are, external parts of the body. 'Swarthy' is a figurative term that was also applied to white people. Walt Whitman described himself as having a 'swarthy face', and George Washington Sevey was described as having 'blue eyes, a heavy shock of dark hair, with a rather swarthy complexion'. Neither of these men from the 19th century were black - see their photographs. ThThe term 'complexion' was historically used to denote the hair and eye colour of white people. The Websters Dictionary of 1828 defines the term 'complexion' as 'the colour of the external parts of the body', which is what hair and eyes are, external parts of the body. 'Swarthy' is a figurative term that was also applied to white people. Walt Whitman described himself as having a 'swarthy face', and George Washington Sevey was described as having 'blue eyes, a heavy shock of dark hair, with a rather swarthy complexion'. Neither of these men from the 19th century were black - see their photographs. The author of the video has used a mishmash of irrelevant evidence and is targeting the gullible. The Vikings used hair colour as a descriptor, this can be seen in names such as Halfdan the Black, Eric the Red and Harald Fairhead. Charles II was called 'the black boy' by his own mother as he was the only child with black hair and dark eyes - this is evident in the painting of Charles and his siblings by Anthony van Dyck. Charles II's brother James II (same parents) was never described as black - which completely gives the game away for people with a balanced mind. There were plenty of white people described by colours, German Footballer Ulf Kirsten was knicknamed der schwatte (or the black one), British PM John Major was known as the grey man and boxer Jack Dempsey was known as kid blackie. The Campbells of Glenorchy had a black Duncan in their family tree, and they also had a grey Colin - which is a clear indication they were referring to hair colour and not skin colour. The Vikings used hair colour as a descriptor, this can be seen in names such as Halfdan the Black, Eric the Red and Harald Fairhead. Charles II was called 'the black boy' by his own mother as he was the only child with black hair and dark eyes - this is evident in the painting of Charles and his siblings by Anthony van Dyck. Charles II's brother James II (same parents) was never described as black - which completely gives the game away for people with a balanced mind. There were plenty of white people described by colours, German footballer Ulf Kirsten was nicknamed der schwatte (or the black one), British PM John Major was known as the grey man and boxer Jack Dempsey was known as kid blackie. The Campbells of Glenorchy had a black Duncan in their family tree, and they also had a grey Colin - which is a clear indication they were referring to hair colour and not skin colour.

[@RebelKing00]

I don’t think he was describing about complexion. It was more figurative speech.

[@MalfosRanger]

Thank you for sharing. It puts into sharp relief the arbitrary nature of prejudice. That the attitudes held by intellectuals towards various races can change radically over several generations. I have no doubt the Romans had very unflattering opinions of the peoples of Britannia in their day.

[@ElectricSoul828]

This was very interesting. History is very complicated and yet i still don't hate it, its just a thing that happened for us to learn from.

[@Nobody-ji1oe]

Finally! Someone with some sense, that's addressing a topic that many attempt avoid.

[@robtaylor4464]

i love the video thank you so much for this worthy content and your time i hope to see another interesting video soon

[@nytn]

Thank you :) Let me know if you have a suggestion!

[@robertjohnson5838]

On the one hand, The Founding Fathers were seriously thinking of making German our national language. On the other hand, you might well ask "German? Which one?" since Hochdeutsch and Plattdeutsch are almost separate languages, and much the same can be said for the existence of Italian, Arabic, Japanese (my daughter spoke relatively fluent Tokyo Japanese, but couldn't understand a word at the Osaka table at U of Texas at Austin). As for "swarthy" Germans I give you the quote by Bismarck: "A Bavarian is a combjnation of an Austrian and a human being."

[@nytn]

Wow, this was wild, thank you for sharing it.

[@BenjaminGessel]

Nordic supremacy before Nazism…. Wow, who would have thought? 😂🤣😂🤣

[@fietereim8190]

Not quite, Bismarck's remark (if it's genuine, there are other unoffending versions) needs to be interpreted in the context of the long standing feud between Prussia (Bismarck), Bavaria and especially Austria. Austria is the only "German" state that has resisted the unification. This has nothing to do with swarthiness.

[@robertjohnson5838]

@@fietereim8190 I'd say that when you go south from Prussia and Bavaria is next, and then you get to Austria, swarthiness is probably party of the deal. I've talked to Italian-Swiss and Austrians on this topic going the other way: "Why is West Germany the luckiest nation? Because they don't have West German tourists!" The Austrian lady I knew had been a waitress in a remote town in Austria, and when the bill was presented in Schillings, the West German woman said "No, how much in REAL money?" (meaning Deutschmarks as if Schillings were cowries or wampum or Yap stone money).

[@fietereim8190]

@@robertjohnson5838 Take it as you want, but as a German myself I am not aware of this swarthiness categorization you allude to. We generally "discriminate" by dialect and Bavarian and Austrian aren't the most detested ones. Granted, there is some uppityness towards Austria, but this stems from the difference in size (83 vs. 9M people). And even if German tourists make asses of themselves, it doesn't mean that Schillings were real money. 😂

[@2dogsmowing]

From the Ben Franklin book I read. There was nothing mentioned about what your talking about. He talked about British. An he went over seas to work with a few people over there with printing that he did as a career.

[@nytn]

don’t take my word for it, the primary sources I read from are in the video description!

[@2dogsmowing]

@@nytn. I appreciate it. I'll definitely check it out.

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

Read the 1751 pamphlet

[@knw-seeker6836]

thats historically so interesting because in Germany there were lots of political discussions about integration over the years I did see lots of pictures of the 1800s where German settlers established athletic facilities and did give the name "Turnverein" which translates to Gymnastics club

[@peterb121]

What's amazing is , these so called judges and analysts generally from England that migrated to what we know as America , these humans should never forget about where they originally came from.

[@ProudAngloIrishScotWelshUlster]

Shut up German

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

Ben Franklin maybe liked “red heads” because they don’t tan. Colorism is a thing. An easy way to set up caste systems and make “others “. White is a thing because the people in power, want it to be. It is fluid like power sometimes ( from historical perspectives).

[@nytn]

Fluid is the word I was looking for but could not find! Thank you, exactly.

[@rroadmap]

​@@etruscancivilization hmm, that's interesting! I've heard that was the case with Hitler. He was certainly not blond and blue-eyed as he wanted Germany to be.

[@nytn]

That is what I have always read as well

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

@@nytn you are welcome 🤗.

[@craigkdillon]

Really? Where did you get that quote that supposedly is from Benjamin Franklin?? I notice you give no attribution. I have read some Franklin writings, and never came across ANYTHING like this. So, tell us -- where did you get this? I doubt its real.

[@nytn]

primary sources are in the description!

[@mogreen19]

Very interesting, thank you for your research and the video. I am German and have been living in the Netherlands for over 8 years now and have been studying the migration of my family for almost 2 decades. German side of my family indeed has a few connections to the US going back around 150 years. A 104-year old High School is named after a relative of mine, he was school superintendent of St Loius and a German immigrant - so disproves a bit that all German migrants where stupid ;-) My distant relatives are currently mostly in Florida and Michigan, quite a ways from St Louis 100+ years ago. Looking forward to more of your videos 😀

[@nytn]

Thank you so much for sharing your story on here. I love hearing from folks who know a bit about their ancestors!

[@corilia9529]

Well weren't most of the founding fathers of English descent? In America they didn't like the germans or the irish or the Italians. The divisions are rooted in Europe though and all of those countries over there have fought with each other at one time or another.

[@ryan7864]

I've always contended that the animosity fell along Protestant and Catholic lines. It's not a big deal today but was then.

[@corilia9529]

Bingo!

[@thomasmaloney843]

This is why my Irish ancestors lived in German and Swiss areas. This is why I am of mostly German and Swiss ancestry. Actually, a lot of my ancestors lived originally in Pennsylvania, before going to the Midwest. A lot of my German ancestors were Fries and Sachsens. Swarthy complexions? Really?

[@derlingerardclair6252]

sorry,but I kind of think that old Ben was full of crap when he made that ignornate statement!

[@gmssamakyaahlahhopeful144]

Truth is stranger than fiction. Benjamin Franklin was talking about the black Europeans

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

@@gmssamakyaahlahhopeful144 no, he was talking about Germans.

[@gmssamakyaahlahhopeful144]

@@BritishIsleBoy24He also mentioned Black french, Swedes, Russians, Italians, and Spanairds

[@RebelKing00]

Irish were not liked because they were majorly Catholic. Germans were not liked because they couldn’t adapt to the culture and they couldn’t speak English.

[@laurice8056]

This is exactly why learning about all of the history of all of mankind is so important. Without full disclosure, history is Doomed to repeat itself!

[@larrywilliams9139]

In the main this is typical xenophobic exclusion that we see time and again with most outgroups. However, I had some ancestors come here from Germany in colonial times that were quite dark. My great grandfather William Issaac Moak had the last name on his death certificate changed to Munk. On his deathbed he told my dad and I the story of his father saving a dark-skinned man from a Mississippi lynch mob. Grandad said his father spoke with the man in a language that was not the little German he knew. His father then told the mob that this was a black German from the Black Forest. He convinced the mob this dark man was fully European and should not be hung for refusing to say yassah and nossah. The dark man-surnamed Munk-came home with them and preformed a challenging blacksmith job overnight. It was some wagon part that was really hard to repair-days of work for Grandad's father and at the limit of his smithing ability. Grandad was outraged to find this man had also walked away with his father's lightest anvil and some other choice items. His father told him the man was kin-Moak was originally Munk- and not to worry about it. Grandad said these black German's had been enslaved in Europe but were not African. The Romani and Sinti arrived in Germany in the 1500's I believe. The name Munk turned up again when I attended NC State. The Cloud family history had John Cloud's Paternal line way back into England but mother's maiden name unknown. Well, the residents of New Light Creek N.C.-birthplace of John Cloud and that Boone guy-were happy to tell me about a letter found between some Clouds. It mentioned "our undying shame that our mother was born under the accursed name of Munk". They were also happy to tell me these Munks were not exactly white too. I reacted rather poorly to this racist attitude but fortunately avoided academic and legal penalties.

[@timeforchange3786]

When I think of dark Germans I think of Roma/Gypsies as well. Around 500k were killed in the Holocaust. Also, New Light Creek is 2 hours from Robeson County, NC which is a large Melungeon community.

[@stevekern7235]

@@timeforchange3786 But..I thought there were only Jews in the camps?

[@traubengott9783]

​@@timeforchange3786well the thing is the sentiments towards gipsies in europe are mostly true. Roma people have been living on crime for centuries. It is the only people that rightfully has been eradicated. Even today they rely on crime and Integration projects fail miserably. Their culture just doesnt accept productivity but glorifies crime. Of course they arent persecuted today so they cause even more damage.

[@crypto_que]

Just curious to know if your videos mention or outright address how each European ethnicity earned then benefited from their whiteness?

[@nytn]

Yes, a little. The Italian story I talked about over the course of two videos (the second one is about the detainment camps in the US during WW2). For the Irish, I touch on that as well (or at least, what a good guess is). I think probably, the more “new” immigrants come over, the easier it is for the more established groups to assimilate. But there are lots more videos to make! Let me know if there is something I should definitely cover

[@crypto_que]

@@nytn Thanks. Just wanted to let you know that I love your videos. The content you provide is one of a kind. There seems to be an emergence of content about enslaved white people. If you haven’t already I think it’s important for people to know that American Chattel Slavery was race based and Federally Taxed. In 1619 a black woman was deemed legal taxable property and her children could only be born slaves. There’s a huge difference between those conditions and people who could work for their freedom. I’m asking because only your channel goes in depth enough to distinguish the differences. Thanks again for all you’re doing and for sharing your story.

[@TheNphillips]

The HBO Documentary “Exterminate All The Brutes” by film maker Raul Peck is based on a book by the same title written by Swedish historian Sven Lindqvist. It’s an exploration of the full breath of the European colonial project and the darkness it brought to humanity. I highly recommend both. The Holocaust didn’t appear out of thin air, centuries of European history lead up to it.

[@asturiasceltic3183]

I think he might have been talking about Southern Germans-Austrians near the Bavarrian/Bohemian border who are celtic. Celts were known to be dark haired and not blonde hair....These celts are the same ones who went to Northwest Spain..Many look like the man in my avatar who is not German (but who has been mistaken for German by Germans) or like Abraham Lincoln.

[@mwol5473]

Bavarians and Austrian are majority Germanic DNA, they are the direct descendants of the Bavarii and Tyroli Germanic tribes.. The Celts originally inhabited south Germany were pushed out, there was very little mixing with them

[@asturiasceltic3183]

@@mwol5473 Northwest Spaniards are mixed with celts of south Austrians and that's a fact. Look up the Astures of Asturias . And South Gemans do have a Celtic look with their fine and pointy features that resemble north Spaniards.

[@asturiasceltic3183]

@@mwol5473 And it makes sense why my father look like a more blondish version of the Austrian singer FALCO

[@RebelKing00]

He was taking about palatines

[@JohnDoe-ne1ni]

When he is sayig Swarthy he is talkig about their look and customs. Swarthy actually means "Dark and Hairy". Franklin is describing them as unwashed savages but in more upscale vocabulary

[@olafharoldsonnii4713]

Delusional

[@dutchiedutch3059]

Is swarthy the same as black? Swarthy has the same root as the German word schwarz, meaning black. It means dark-skinned. Not necessarily black, but definitely tending in that direction. It used to be a code word that was used when people wanted to hint that someone had black ancestry

[@nytn]

I meant to include that but forgot, so glad you added it here

[@truthtruth3717]

​@@nytn SWARTY means dark.

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

No it doesn't. Walt Whitman described himself as having a 'swarthy face' in Leaves of Grass, and he had numerous photographs taken of him - he was of English lineage. Bellow is a description of Napoleon Bonaparte. Notice that the description of him includes 'reddish-blonde' hair, an aquiline nose and that of him being 'swarthy'. Dennis Davidov's description (from his Memoirs) of Napoleon at Tilsit in 1807: 'I have already remarked on how much I was struck by the overall resemblance of Napoleon to the prints on sale everywhere. But the same was not true of his facial features. None of the portraits that I had seen bore the least resemblance to him. Believing them, I had supposed that Napoleon sported a rather large hooked nose, dark eyes and dark hair- in a word, the true Italian facial type. In fact, his face was slightly swarthy, with regular features. His nose was not very large, but straight, with a very slight, hardly noticeable bend. The hair on his head was not black, but dark reddish-blond; his eyebrows and eyelashes were much darker than the colour of his hair, and his blue eyes, set off by the almost black lashes, gave him a most pleasing expression. Finally, no matter how many times I had occasion to see him, I never noticed those frowning eyebrows with which the portrait-pamphleteers endowed him'. Swarthy does not mean that somebody was black. It was to describe caucasions with darker features such as hair/eyes and tanned skin.

[@dutchiedutch3059]

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533Etymology Dictionary: Entries linking to swarthy swart (adj.) Old English sweart "black, dark," of night, clouds, also figurative, "wicked, infamous," from Proto-Germanic *swarta- (source also of Old Frisian, Old Saxon, and Middle Dutch swart, Dutch zwart, Old Norse svartr, German schwarz, Gothic swarts "dark-coloured, black"), from PIE root *swordo- "dirty, dark, black" (source of sordid). The true Germanic word, surviving in the Continental languages but displaced in English by black. Of skin colour of persons from late 14c. Related: Swartest. schvartze (n.) also schvartzer, "black person" (somewhat derogatory), 1961, Yiddish, from schvarts "black" (see swarthy). Perhaps originally a code word to refer to black servants when they were within earshot, as its German cognate, Schwarze, is said to have been used: In Baltimore in the 80s of the last century, the German-speaking householders, when they had occasion to speak of Negro servants in their presence, called them die Blaue (blues). In the 70s die Schwartze (blacks) had been used, but it was believed that the Negroes had fathomed it. [H.L. Mencken, "The American Language," Supplement I, 1945]

[@George-zd6rb]

Dutch,swarthy does not have anyone to do with black in German" Born and spent most of my childhood in Deutchland!"

[@fido9745]

I’m thankful to get quotes from founding fathers depicting their psyche through their own words! I’m curious to learn their thoughts on other European immigrants besides Anglo Saxons who weren’t what they’d consider to be swathy. my front of mind conclusion about Franklin and his writings is that he felt threatened by the vastness of cultural difference within a European context between the formerly English Americans to the new German Americans and found the idea of forming alliances or relationships would end up too unpredictable and thus his remarks about whiteness is more mocking than it is literal. but then again, i dont know what swathy means. white is just a mode to exclude than it is a representation of other groups. but then again, fairer skin is revered by mainstream cultures outside of the european context also, like it is in Asia, literal paler skin, so Franklin could also really be commenting on their complexion. pardon me if Im off given the passages you shared in the video.

[@12tanuha21]

That is because paler skin was a symbol of wealth before modern time. It show that you have enough money to not work in the sun. Not only in Europe, but also in Asia.

[@AnhNguyen-hn9vj]

@@12tanuha21 i like pale skin too over dark skin, but only for good looking not consider it as superior over dark skin. This is a very false impression that it is superior cause of skin color.

[@ghostmusic769]

​@@AnhNguyen-hn9vjI love my melonated skin. I don't have to worry about the sun burning my skin and causing cancer. Melonated women are the only ones that can produce any race. This is pretty special...

[@wilhelmhesse1348]

Very interesting but which Germans where they referring to?

[@jm7578]

Irish too were not considered white either

[@nytn]

I did a video on them, too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iofYo5hjrpmFpqM

[@mikejames5743]

That's because we are red skinned

[@BenjaminGessel]

The founding fathers had somewhat varying views on race and nationality. We know more about Franklin in this regard than most of the others. If I am not mistaken, these are the thoughts that Benjamin Franklin had about Europeans (and a few others) at least: English: Amazing. Beautiful. Handsome. Spiritually minded. The best people. Scottish: Hmmm…. Not so sure about those highlanders, to be honest… Welsh: Yyyeah ok… Irish: Hmmm…. (Raises an eyebrow) France: Cultured but darker haired than the English… Dutch: Very fair, very beautiful people. Flemish: No problems there. Walloons: More French… Germans: -Bavarians: Yyyeah…. (Swiss/Austrians: same deal) -Swabians: Oy… -Hessians: Yeah, ok… -Rhinelanders: Pretty ok I guess… -Thuringians: Also pretty ok… -Saxons: YES! -Prussians: Hmmm… Danes: Yep, great people… Norwegians: Ya shure, you betcha Iceland: More Norway, shure, you betcha. Swedes: Not sure about your sometimes tanned skin, but I’m liking that blonde hair… Italians: Well… Spanish: Wait a minute… Portuguese: Now hold on a sec Hungarians: Now wait just a minute here… Czech: Franklin covers his face a bit in consternation Polish: They’re FINE! Look, can we get back to NW Europe a bit more here? Finland: More “Asiatics”… Baltic States: Yyyeah… Russia: Oh come on now! Ukraine: Can we stop this? Romania: Will this never end? Croatia: Look, if you stop this inquisition, I’ll… Greece: No! Just, No! Ok? Albania: … Slovenia: Why? Just…. Why? Serbia: Go talk to someone else about this… Bosnia: No! I’ve had enough! Moldova: Look. Aren’t they just more Slavs? Slovakia: (Frustrated sigh) Turkey: Wait! I’m drawing the line! Turks are not European! Israel: Wait. That’s not fair. I know what you are up to with that one. Me: “Now Ben, I know you love the English people and the Saxons in Germany as well. I do too. But I also love the Scots, Welsh, and Swiss/Southern Germans, etc., because they are a part of my ancestry. Can you be a little more tolerant of your fellow Europeans there, my man?” Franklin: (Sigh) “I guess so. But that Samuel Keimer! I don’t like him one little bit!!!” “Ok then, I understand. I promise that there are nice Southern Germans who are very intelligent, beautiful and righteous, spiritual, productive people.” Franklin: (Sigh…) Me: “Now we just need to work on how you feel about everyone else.” Franklin: “Just kill me now…”

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

You really took all this time to write these comments?

[@BenjaminGessel]

@@BritishIsleBoy24 No, I hired someone to write this…. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@BritishIsleBoy24]

@@BenjaminGessel Or you must have used AI 🤖😂

[@BenjaminGessel]

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[@istvan5674]

Ironically, Franklin's Pennsylvania was not founded by the British, but taken by force from the Dutch, along with New York. In the early 18th Century the French were still engaged in wars among the Germanies (yes, it wasn't united until the late 19th Century). These religious wars created German refugees who sought refuge in Protestant England, who didn't want them except as a cheap labor source in the colonies, namely New York. Since the refugees couldn't afford passage they were given passage in exchange for indentured servitude. What the Germans thought was going to be a short term of work to pay off their passage was a lie. Governor Tyron built labor camps (forerunner of the British Concentration Camps of Boer War) and kept the Germans hard at work as slave labor for years. In 1719 the Germans had enough and they broke out of their camps seeking refuge on the frontier with the Native Americans. The Iroquois League told the Germans where they could set up their own towns and sold them the land, which infuriated Governor Tyron as they didn't have the right to sell their own lands which were claimed by the crown. This set up an environment where it was "Us vs. Them" with the British. It was to no surprise then that years later the Germans rallied to the revolutionary cause in New York while their English and Scottish neighbors were more Loyalist or lukewarm to the revolution. My German Immigrant 5th Great-Grandfather was a sergeant in the Tyron County Militia and led his men in battle with the Tories and Indians at the Battle for Sharon Springs (formerly known as New Durlach, one of these German towns). He, like the other Germans in his unit, earned their American Citizenship in blood lost and shed for freedom despite the feelings of Franklin, et al.

[@nytn]

Thank you for this comment, I really appreciated it.

[@MalikaBourne]

WOW! Thank you for sharing.

[@Harryset1]

In that context: "Wall Street" Lower Manhattan NY ------ During the 18th century, Wall Street was a slave trading marketplace and a securities trading site, and from the early eighteenth century (1703) the location of Federal Hall, New York's first city hall. Original name: "Het cringle"

[@findliza]

My ancestors founded old durlach!

[@RebelKing00]

Most of the Germans fought for the British during the American revolution and unlike the Germans, at least the English and the Dutch had colonies in America so they had a bigger right in being American.

[@1powerequalsgod]

I read a number of books on Eugenics an that woke me up on history of the US education system testing scores have roots in early American social concerns about skin color and ethnic roots. People will have to discover these books if they can find them available store wise.