Germany's Wiesel Tank: The Power Behind the Small Size

In the world of armored warfare, size can often be a game-changer, but what if a small, compact vehicle could deliver a powerful punch? Enter the tankette, a tracked armored vehicle that resembles a mini tank, roughly the size of a car. Among these, Germany's Wiesel tank stands out as a remarkable example. Despite its small stature compared to other German tanks, the Wiesel packs a significant punch and proves to be an exceptionally formidable machine. Curious about what makes this tiny tank so deadly? Stay tuned!
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[@lemondrop2920]

I like the weasel. For personnel reasons. I was a drafted airborne soldier in 1998. I can remember a larger exercise where I was part of the forward component of the airborne logistics company, consisting of a captain, a sergeant and two privates. I was one of the two privates, so anyone can imagine about how the nightshift guards in that 4-person troop would have been arranged 😂.. While my buddy and me where trying to sort out how we would split up ourselves throughout the night, a weasel appeared the scene, stopped some 30 meters beside us close to the treeline and started to prepare for the night. We asked them whether they intended to stay there and they knew immediately what the situation was. They said: "guys, go to sleep! We've got night vision, we are gonna see more than you anyway!". Since that day: friendship and honor to the glorious, beloved comrades from the one and only Fallschirmpanzerabwehrbataillon 272.

[@_dune_2795]

Which army were you drafted in?

[@Military-TV]

Interesting, thanks for sharing your story!

[@Nik-nd1mv]

​@@_dune_2795German Army, obviously. 😂

[@patta8388]

@@_dune_2795 Obviously the Bundeswehr, no one else uses the Wiesel

[@gunner678]

Did an exercise with your guys in Denmark in the early 90s. Retired British airborne.

[@benjaminloehner257]

The Wiesel is not only small and quick, but it has a low IR signature and it's pretty silent.

[@2MeterLP]

In the era of drone warfare, smaller, faster, cheaper tanks might be the future. Imagine one of these with a box full of drones in the back. It can carry a big antenna, so the range would be better than infantry drone systems.

[@schnupfi419]

True, man i never thought about this. The battlefield is constantly evolving.

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

I found the one smart person in the comments

[@MrDschiesus]

Dronecarrier! absolutely!

[@enteplays3662]

Yeah, another advantage is that it would be hard to find due to beeing so small. If you make it able to run the controll tech via a battery you could even stop the engine while operating, making it harder to spot for infrared cameras

[@timsollner7589]

maybe it could be outfitted with jamming equipment to make the use of drones by the enemy more difficult

[@Callamalcolm]

I was Commander of a San-Wiesel for some years, during my time with the paratroopers. Loved this little war-pony. I think the sucess of the wiesel is due to the restricktion of it being light enough to be transported in an air vehicle. So the designers couldn´t - in good german fashion - overengineer that project to death. The wiesel has everything he need´s, not more, not less, as best as light build gets. Perfect!

[@westphalianstallion4293]

Good Point, but in my opinion its more a product of an era when most german equipment was very well balanced. Marder , Leo the whole ecosystem northern plane aka peak bundeswehr was and is still very good equipment thats works well in an combined arms approach. The Wiesel 1 in combination with the CH 53 is an excellent combination for flexible air mechanized operations in contested but confined space. The CH and Wiesel are both pretty short ranged in their movements but thats not what they were designed for. Long story short, the concept of a tracked weaponscarrier that can be carried inside by medium to heavy transport helicopter is the best way to support air mobile infantry. The limiting faktor will always be the airvehicle. And they are expensive. The german CH 53 G costs more than a F35 and is as costly in maitenance. The Problem with all modern airborne/air assault stuff is the price and numbers of the airframes. The Wiesel is a great force mulitplyer you get a lot for less than 1Mio of taxpayer money, but you need a 100 Mio asset in the CH to deploy and resupply it.

[@gooldii1]

Darum wird er auch eingestellt, ersatzlos.😂😂😂

[@Wolleee]

Its not a tank, its a WAFFENTRÄGER

[@ropeburn6684]

For all intents and purposes, it's a Tankette!

[@Nobodyisperfect-us6pk]

They have missed an important feature. The Waffenträger Wiesel has the best anti tank mine protection against regular AT mines possible. It has none, it is so light, the ground pressure of the tracks is so low, it just does not trigger them. And they got a light upgarde to protect against anti personal mines. It is even less than the ground pressure of a regular human. Very low ground pressure/force also means, excellent performance on soft ground. And additional, they are so small, that they can easily drive trough the gaps between the AT mines, regular placed against all bigger tanks/APCs/military vehicles.

[@JS-mb7yo]

Typical Bundeswehr myth. First of all the Wiesel is heavy enough to trigger the pressure activated detonators as Welle as normal cars. Second and more important, Most modern AT mines are magnetically triggered. And the Wiesel ist still made out of steel.

[@Nobodyisperfect-us6pk]

@@JS-mb7yo First, most AT mines in the world in storage and in use are not modern, especially, what is now left in Ukraine on Russian as on Ukrainian site. All modern AT mines on Russian site were spent in the firat weeks (they have had few, and Ukraine had none), what are now left are dozens perhaps even hundred of millions of AT mines from cold war times still in storage; and not a single one of these is "modern". Second: A Wiesel 1 has a weight just around 50% to 100% more than a regular big SUV, a Wiesel 2 around 200%. But they have tracks not wheels (and a ground pressure around 0.35 N/cm2). The ground pressure is below the regular value to trigger AT mines. If they will find a modern AT mine or one of the fiber triggert ones on the site of the road with a HEAT warhead; bad luck. But the AT mines, a Wiesel will regular "find" in any conflict, they will fight, will be in most cases not modern and mostly from cold war times (or even new produced as these old AT mines are still in production as very cheap)..

[@JS-mb7yo]

@@Nobodyisperfect-us6pk ground pressure of 0,35N/cm² would be 20% of the human ground pressure… Mines from the cold war are modern mines, with fiber or magnetic detonator and have been common since the 80s

[@Nobodyisperfect-us6pk]

@@JS-mb7yo Sorry, now I have made a mistake. It is 3.5 N/cm2 not 0,35. I think, I have messed it with another value. AT mines will start with a ground pressure around 4 to 5 N/cm2 and it also depneds, how deep they are e.g.. The cold war has ended at the end of the 80th; and Russia collapsed earlier, they have stopped mid of the 80th to build and buy weapons in extreme amounts because they did not have enough money. Both, Ukraine as Russia have extreme amounts of AT mines in stock, but these were from the 50th, 60th, 70th and 80th. And till end of the collapse of the Soviet union, they had never stopped to produce the cheap old AT mines, because they were several times cheaper to produce than "modern mines". The Soviet union has had developed modern weapon systems, but not always produced them in masses, because they were just too expensive (in comparison to the old ones). Also all other states, who had bought AT mines from Russia, they have all bought the old ones. We have deen the modern Russian AT mines at the begin of the war...but not now anymore. These few were all spent long time ago. What is seen are AT mines like the TM-46/57/62 family. And with the numbers, you also know the years, they were developed.

[@dannyzero692]

Much like the CVRT family of vehicle, this thing glides through mud at speed and elegance a main battle tank could only dream of.

[@ry0usama511]

Forget MBT, even some IFV/AFV can't match its mobility

[@StefanM38]

In Germany The Wiesel has the funny discription "Armored so that it doesn't rain in" ^^ But it is a very agility car and it´s make a lot of fun to drive.

[@lfotzblitz7436]

In den MELLS WIesel regnet es trotzdem rein. Die Luken sind nicht vollkommen dicht.

[@mho...]

@@lfotzblitz7436 ein glück Wasser zählt nicht zu ABC 🥴

[@aaltag4068]

"2.75 metric tons. Roughly the weight of a small car" a SMALL CAR? dude what are you smoking?

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

He's american.

[@t1schk4nte85]

m5

[@knutritter461]

2.5 metric tons is a pretty heavy car for German standards. 😉

[@Astrofrank]

4:00 - not Mark 20, but Maschinenkanone 20 (mm), meaning autocannon 20 (mm)

[@udomedding5525]

While I was in duty in the german Bundeswehr, I was at a military show. Many high ranking officers and generals from our NATO-Allies attended.... and lought about this tiny tank... Until the show began.. 😳 This weasle is a hell of o beast!!!! Not kidding!

[@mho...]

We Germans like efficient Things! And this one is compact, quick, smart, powerful & cheap, makes it worth using!

[@JurgenHirsch]

The Airborne weapon carrier Weasel. Perfect to support Paratroopers after an Airborne Mission with his 20mm Canon. Better than a HMMWV with Cal 50

[@ruhiger69]

The Weasel is Hell on on Wheels: Because it´s small and have a high Agility. It´s Underrated , like the Gepard

[@johnnywaffen4581]

I always liked the Wiesel small but packed a big punch very accurate guidance system. Reliable and easy to conseal. Liked it much more than Marder vehicles.

[@jaja-j6b]

*This AI-video is poorly researched.* The Wiesel has just received new anti-tank missiles and new battle management systems. A more powerful thermal imaging system including a laser rangefinder was installed on the Wiesel 1A5 MK, mine protection was improved and a rear view system was integrated. The service life extension is intended to keep the Wiesel 1 MELLS (anti-tank missiles) and MK (automatic cannon) in service until 2030.

[@frankdelahue9761]

How do you know it is AI generated?

[@jaja-j6b]

@@frankdelahue9761 🥰

[@jaja-j6b]

@@frankdelahue9761 😘

[@frankdelahue9761]

@@jaja-j6b Are those kissess for woman in my profile image? You would be surprised to see the rest of her image.

[@jayquincy5614]

Grüße gehen raus an die Orcs

[@SRB.4S]

An excellent combat vehicle, it can serve in the German army without any problems, as long as it has served plus at least half a century more, it can quickly be turned into an unmanned vehicle, a land drone....

[@Pz.history]

The concept is absolutely strong

[@SRB.4S]

@@Pz.history Maybe in the time when it was created, but in today's time, if it was made into an unmanned vehicle that can destroy a tank, with SPIKE missiles, it certainly can, and everything else that moves on the ground practically or as an air defense system! And it is very small, hard to see, very fast platform... I think it is an excellent concept for today's warfare and doctrine.

[@Pz.history]

@@SRB.4S Well not sure if the production are all dead or if they are ready to start the production line up again, if not the Leopard takes all space

[@SRB.4S]

@@Pz.history I was thinking of reworking the existing Wiseles, at least part of them into unmanned versions... But considering the capacities in general in the west... You are right

[@Klote3241]

@@Pz.history The concept is bad for front line combat. i dont know if you guys have looked at the war in Ukraine but almost every meter of the front line is being surveilled by drones. FPV drones would also make mince meat out of these things. These things would only be useful with spec ops aerial drop.

[@MisterBobderJob]

2,75 tonnes, like a small car…? Wtf

[@vophatechnicus]

Well, it´s an american channel. For americans, 2,75 tons is cute and tiny ;)

[@PeNeTrAtOrX]

​@@vophatechnicus it's almost twice the weight of a Volkswagen Golf

[@vophatechnicus]

@@PeNeTrAtOrX tbh it is also almost twice the weight of a Passat B8 Variant ... But well. All those cars are "tinY" ... measured in american sizes ;)

[@PeNeTrAtOrX]

@@vophatechnicus like most asian guys compared to the bros from Congo

[@HelgeV.]

I guess even the use of gas is less then most of american Cars.

[@Schmokkie1984]

I like the weasels. Imagine if the weasels were equipped with a remote control, they would certainly be even faster, as the weights of the soldiers would no longer have to be carried.

[@Ragavenutb]

FPV drone Operator be like look a cute tiny tank.

[@herptek]

One could install an automated remote weapon station to shoot down drones on something like this. Heavy drone protection would be too heavy for dismounted infantrymen to carry.

[@Ragavenutb]

@@herptek problem is not shooting it down, but to spoting it and taking preventive measures. Most advanced tanks gone prey for drones because of the absence of situational awareness...

[@Ruzaraneh]

@@Ragavenutb unless the drone have IR and nightvision equipment, well camoflage wiesel are not that easily spotted, unlike big MBT tanks even well camouflage the drone operator can see the silhouette of the MBT. well, just logically speaking of course, after see first hand how big and large the leopard 2 tank are.

[@Ragavenutb]

@@Ruzaraneh the ones I've seen on some videos,I thinks it's orlan they seem to have flir package unless wiesel is powered by electric drives they may still emit large ir signature, to make matters worse.they now have optical towed drone which are impervious to electronic jamming. So I think tanks won't be a apex predator on the battlefield anymore no matter the size.

[@Nomad-XA]

Looks ideal for urban combat, I watched how hard it is for larger vehicles to move around cities during combat. There is a lot of debris that makes it hard for large vehicles to move, this size seems ideal for that environment

[@seacore181]

yeah, but its a stealthy tank, so not so good there, it doesnt want to be seen. in urban maybe as an armored drone tank.

[@AnonD38]

Oh definitely not! The thin armor of the Wiesel means it would be a death trap in urban warfare. Even armor piercing heavy machine guns could puncture the armor of the Wiesel, not to mention actual Anti-tank weapons which have become standard issue for most Armies across the world and are even used by insurgencies. Taking the Wiesel into an urban environment would be a big mistake!

[@lemondrop2920]

​@@AnonD38I totally agree. The success of the weasel heavily relies on agility and stealth. Stealth would definitely be lost in urban areas.

[@JoshuaHolstein]

der unglaubliche 1.9 TDI 😂

[@taffdavies35]

Reminds me of the cvrt vehicles we had in the british army, we should have kept them in service.

[@MajinOthinus]

The CVRT is way larger than this thing.

[@taffdavies35]

@MajinOthinus yes it is, as stated, I said it REMINDED me of cvrt not that it was the same. Cvrt was small ish and had many variants

[@nomaam9077]

The Wiesel is a weapon carrier, it is not a tank. That is something you should know when making such comparisons.

[@ClashClash89]

6-8mm armor sounds like you don't wanna run into somebody with a .50

[@thomaskamp9365]

You underestimate this little shitter! He plays the role of David against Goliath. He doesn't openly confront his opponent, but the opponent only sees him when he has been attacked and then it is too late. The weasel is so small that he can hide behind any bush, small trenches are perfect, dense forest areas are perfect. He is quiet enough to always get within weapon range without being seen. He is small enough to find cover anywhere and disappear again unseen. During exercises against American Abrahams, the little shitters taught the Americans to fear. They simply appeared in the dense forest edge, shot and immediately disappeared again. Pursuit was not possible for the Americans because the forests were too dense, and they couldn't get through with their large tanks. The little weasel is a hunter, he doesn't defend, he actively hunts Tanks.

[@monkieie]

The Wiesel is a modern day version of the British Schimitar / Scorpion. Lovely vehicle and ideal for reconnaissance

[@beowulff]

Der Wiesel ist schon ein geiler Apparat

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

Even little Weasels are Great :-)

[@rolfpurnhagen1197]

Denke wir koennen die baender bei mercedes ,vw , und porsche binnen eines tages auf wiesel Produktion umstellen

[@caccioman]

Stimmt, bei vw sind gerade kapazitäten frei 😅 die sollten sich mit Rheinmetall abstimmen…

[@Peter-pf9op]

3:32 thats what they say about my wurstchen too

[@Leon-sx6gg]

4:49

[@OFFENDYOU365]

Here we go. Germany about to rule again

[@TatianaWE]

Германия скоро деградирует и станет Польшей... Всё идёт к этому (

[@Pz.history]

Hardly. Politicians talk too much and act too little

[@const2499]

Relax. Not yet. Grüße aus Deutschland ;)

[@danielkullick872]

During an Exercise at Hohenfels in the late 90s I observed a Para-Btl with Wiesel defending against US-Tank-Btl with Abrahams. No Abraham survived due to the mega-stupid turbine.

[@dotEXCEI_]

Wiesels in opfor excersices are annoying as hell to fight... TOW Wiesels have now recieved the MELLS missile (german designation for Spike-LR). Germany has retired the TOW system completly.

[@nickhaas3085]

That was my first Audi 😂

[@posaunenrori]

There are also round 20x reconnaissance still in use by the force, the have a IR and Thermal on it. i was a driver for 4 Years of it and had a lot of cold and uncomfy nights in it :-) But was a great vehicle and always relaible

[@vaderbase]

My first tank.

[@martynchapman3503]

It’s an updated Vickers MkVI light tank! Always knew it was the tank of the future!

[@Tscharlieh]

I wonder why Rheinmetall doesn't press on developing the ACW (Autonomous Combat Warrior) Wiesel (a fully automated version of the Wiesel, essentially a ground drone). Or do they? The war in Ukraine shows the value of such systems. Just imagine 1000 ACW Wiesels roaming and protecting in small packs a territory.

[@countofsif]

Great report, but I have to intervene at one point: the used gun for Infantry suppression is in fact the "MK20", but this is in no way the "Mark 20" as implied in the video. Instead, it's a machine canon (German: "Maschinenkanone") in caliber 20 mm (in contrast to the more widely used MG-3 with 7.62mm NATO). Great caliber to hold down enemy forces when 7.62 doesn't do the trick 😅 Saw this little beast a lot in training and it's really versatile and a huge tactical advantage in many woods or urban terrain based scenarios

[@junkydunky9017]

You made a mistake the wiesel 2 with the air ground missiles is called the ozelot its an anti air tank thats based on the wiesel 2 but it have an other name :)

[@HenryAusLuebeck]

Der Wiesel hat die selbe MK wie der Spz. Marder. Das ist schon beeindruckend. Dran, drauf, drüber von einem ex Richtschütze Spz. Marder. 4.Pz.Gren.Btl.162

[@lfotzblitz7436]

The TOWs on the anti tank Wiesels have all been phased out and replaced with Spikes.

[@venkmanny4100]

It can be airborne, but the Bundeswehr doesn't do this anymore, due to too many accidents. The MK20 stands for Maschinenkanone 20mm, not for Mark 20 and it's rate of fire is way lower, like 500? rounds per mike.

[@sebresludolf9611]

I remember playing this in war thunder

[@Pz.history]

Haha which one?

[@sebresludolf9611]

@@Pz.history Weasel spaa and spg

[@Pz.history]

@@sebresludolf9611 Well the SPG was a higher tier right?

[@sebresludolf9611]

@@Pz.history yes 9.7 rb

[@svendittmann3105]

Why?! This little thing is nearly invisilble.

[@GeneralGayJay]

Panzerchen 🫶

[@nuster7816]

Imagine the Ukraine had dozens of them

[@derriegel5705]

Wouldn't do them any favors. This thing is great for quick hit-and-run missions during maneuver warfare. But the frontlines in ukraine are mostly static.

[@rolfpurnhagen1197]

Mit genug Diesel steht er oder die Reste in einem Tag in Moskau .....so schnell ist das beast

[@janhuffmeier7228]

​@@derriegel5705imagine a group of them driving behind enemy lines performing drive by shootings at transformator stations. Just causing havock.

[@derriegel5705]

@@janhuffmeier7228 Drones are more effective for this and doesn't put any soldiers at risk.

[@markfranssen5631]

If its so good wy is it discontinued??

[@ryelloc7135]

now that you posted it, "China the modern pirate" would copy it🤣🤣

[@kissmahal]

Search for Luwa, the next Gen Wiesel.

[@LIONIQ-foxhound]

this nasty germans armor fighting vehicle have a few advantages are: small size light weight deployable from the air even by transport helicopters, fast with excellent mobility, easy to exploit the topographical environment for concealment and setting mobile ambushes, It can also move on forests roads easily, the light weight helps it move in muddy terrain, It is capable of carrying out a range of operations, including reconnaissance, mobile air defense platform, and an ATGMs launching platform... Its disadvantages: are that its armor is very poor and it can be destroyed by heavy machine guns, for example, the range of the 20mm rh202 rapid firing gun it carry is 2000m while the range of the 12.7mm is 1800, the possibility of saturating the front line with 12.7mm heavy machine guns and heavy sniper rifles is greater than the possibility of encountering the 20 mm, as well as its armor perhaps, will not withstand the modern sniper rifles ammunition this is before the introduction of the FPVs to the battlefields... its small size and light armor reduces the survivability of the crew... the Soviet Union had the BMD family which have the advantage of carrying in an additional to 6 fully equipped infantry soldiers, start with the bmd1which comes with a turret equipped with a 2a28 grom and PKT 7.62mm light machine gun, then the BMD2 with a rapid firing 30mm then the rest of the breed... I think the rapid-firing gun or the auto cannon is much better than low pressure recoilless guns like 2a28 grom and this one of the advantages of this nasty germans armor fighting vehicle AFVs huge punch for its the small size, but the survivability in real war conditions is highly questionable, and across the Ukrainian theaters of operations it didn't proved any exceptional qualities or capabilities, although its suitable to operate in defensive roles beside conducting local counter strokes/strikes, especially when uitli its small size with its 20mm auto cannon, beside acting as mobile air defense system, while the ATGMs carrier role reduced with the introduction of FPVs coupled with anti tank land mines as main anti armor weapon system...

[@andreasr3828]

All right, what you say, however don't mistake the Wiesel for an IFV, its not. The West-German IFV of the time is the Marder. A bigger boy to get 6 soldiers in its belly. Still, both have a 20 mm auto cannon. The good way for West-Germany in the 80s, I guess.

[@LIONIQ-foxhound]

@@andreasr3828 yes my friend it's AFVs armor fighting vehicle my mistake... I forgot the classifications...

[@JurgenHirsch]

This is not a Tank this is a Airboren weapon carrier to support Paratroopers after an Airborne Mission. His small armor is not a Problem. Paratroopers havn`t armour too

[@Marcel_Germann]

The Wiesel is not an IFV, the Wiesel is a weapon carrier to give airborne paratrooper units (!!) mobility and some bigger firepower that they usually don't have.

[@gehtdichnixan3200]

a small car with 3 tonns?????

[@Dave0439]

you always want your vehicle to be as small as possible, even with an MBT

[@stomodino5443]

2.75 tons is not the weight of a "small" car

[@Tscharlieh]

Well they confused size of a "small" car with weight...

[@k.s.3942]

Sie haben mich überzeugt ich nehme einen!

[@ulrichkalber9039]

The chiwawa that identifies as a pitbull.

[@wbybanz47]

I think this machine is good if it can be tested in Ukraine, and useful to carry more of its drones easy to escape since it can travel fast. Good for a 3man team.

[@louhmx1136]

Cute tank

[@Soar-hw2rw]

I say it is 5-10 years away to become an autonomous drone.

[@butspan7618]

its hard to say about drones of that size of it would be no longer stealthy do to electronic signature you have opened it up to a bunch of weapons to disable it. and this size/cost is int something you can just say oh well who gives a shit.

[@zerodawn2277]

​@@butspan7618 look for the ripsaw m5

[@vonsauerkraut]

This was a Leopard 1 not Leopard 2

[@BoyKhongklai]

My foot hurts

[@naokeksura3251]

Did the ukraine got some of these?

[@MonkeyDRuffy82]

No

[@stefans.3940]

A Shark is weaker then a bunch of Pyhranas!

[@Grorbas]

Pocket Tank

[@emmanuelarunkumar91]

Now Germany have no ground level enemy. All eurpean Countries are now one...

[@lorenrogers9269]

I think it’s a great idea, kind of reminds me of the German Hetzer of WWII.

[@leoshell9399]

It looks like an armored jeep..

[@evangpramono5943]

Seeing this mini tank and Lancet say hello from above

[@GK-cb3vc]

Hey look! It's Lt. Gruber und "Mein little tank"! 😂😂😂 ... Nobody? ... Seriously? "Alo, Alo"? ... Damn it I'm old.

[@mustaphahabibi7694]

dont know what happened to this channel this month. shts strange 🤔

[@violakrone8429]

Cute 😊

[@Nik-nd1mv]

But deadly 😂

[@frodrichstriepe6011]

with 2,7 tons it ways as much as a "small" car....

[@manusos4799]

😊joa der is scho schnuckelig gel😊

[@gooldii1]

Darum wird der auch ersatzlos eingestellt. 😂😂😂 Und durch gefühlt 10x so grosse Ifv ersetzt.😂😂😂😂

[@reginaldpoofta5]

These mother effers at youtube deleted Defence TV?

[@danraigm]

What a cutie

[@Livore1]

der tut nix xD

[@vitoriaguimaraes6241]

Os tanques e blindados pesado não tem mais efeito na guerra moderna.

[@Nik-nd1mv]

Deshalb heißt der Trick ja auch: "Feuer und Bewegung "😂

[@patta8388]

The war in Ukraine proves you wrong.

[@Nik-nd1mv]

@@patta8388 no, it doesn't

[@patta8388]

@@Nik-nd1mv yeah it does. Armoured vehicles, including MBT's are still pivotal to both offensive and defensive operations across the entire frontline.

[@Nik-nd1mv]

@@patta8388 the Mix is making the difference. So: air superiority, arty, Tanks and armoured infantry. COMBINED. No single actions.

[@thomassenbart]

Not a tank, stop calling non tanks tanks. It's ignorant and insulting.

[@rolfpurnhagen1197]

Breit fahren schmal denken Leo 2

[@juanfermin8173]

The main weakness is the Armor.

[@Pz.history]

Then dont get shot ;)

[@Klote3241]

@@Pz.history Kinda hard if you have drones everywhere.

[@Pz.history]

@@Klote3241 Well some people do think that tanks are a thing form the past. I dont see it that way, and I do Think that the Wiesel in the TOW version can be used in this conflict

[@diedampfbrasse98]

its thin armor isnt a weakness, but a strength ... its not a tank in design or tactical intention, its a high mobility (weapon) carrier for paratroopers and scouts/observers ... units which in other armies either get no protection/heavy firesupport at all or at best some equally light armor wheeled units like a buggy/jeep. Calling it a tank / tankette is a complete failure of understanding its design and usage. And especially with drones in mind you rather want this tiny, highly mobile vehicle which can disappear in woods/bushes or simply behind a delivery truck, then a large armored snail which can be seen for miles and couldnt hide anywhere effectivly.

[@Nik-nd1mv]

​@@Klote3241first of All you have to find it 😂😂😂

[@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014]

Seems like the tiniest mine will completely destroy it, though.

[@dannyzero692]

unlikely, anti-personnel mines will do practically nothing but slightly damage the paint of this thing but an anti-tank mine will knock it out pretty much instantly.

[@vophatechnicus]

@@dannyzero692 IF the mine is recognizing it at all ;)

[@rotschadel3574]

any tank will be rendered out of combat if they hit a mine the best leave the crew alive and can be repaired in the depo but usually this isnt the case anti tank mines are unsurprisingly very very deadly against all tanks. no exeptions

[@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014]

@@rotschadel3574 Still, it seems a lot better to be immobilized inside a 80 ton bunker with a rotating 120mm turreted gun with all your crew still alive than to just die instantly. Other light modern vehicles are designed to counter the effectiveness of AT mines and IEDs, like the MRAP, but this thing is so close to the ground that it wouldn't stand a chance!

[@rotschadel3574]

@@lordtomlluckrahthegreat9014 while is am just an amature i will also say that the wiesel wasnt made to compete with other ifvs for the "main" ifv role that is for example the puma in germany the wiesels deal is that it dacrefices armor for the ability to be airdropped with parashoot, fit through dense forests and urban terrain as well as the ability to ber very easy to conceal

[@mihirchitnis905]

Even a hit from a basic anti tank ammunition and all inside will not survive due to the thin armour. In this day and age of drones, this tank is obsolete.

[@Smaxx]

Same can be said for pretty much any other light recon/fast attack vehicle, like all sorts of dune buggies. You obviously can't use them for head on assaults, nor can you effectively stop an assault with it on its own, but also keep general landscape in Germany and central/western Europe in mind. There are many dense forests where a vehicle like this should still be able to hide and even move well covered, making detection significantly harder, drones or not.

[@Pz.history]

But do you wanna use a drone on such a small target?

[@lorenrogers9269]

Anti drone capability continues to evolve.

[@papapalpatine7899]

@@Pz.history why not? Russia and Ukraine are using FPV kamikaze drones against infantry. Drones and Munitions are signifficantly cheaper than a tank.

[@Pz.history]

@@papapalpatine7899 Normal you dont gonna find a Wiesel all alone. In addition you will not use a drone against a tank if you can kill a commando station or signal carriage

[@LeroxYT]

Man that lil tank is so frucking outdated, no armor and all that. Considering how the Battlefield looks in Ukraine, it could be helpful, or just a suicide Tank. Its small, but that also means no anti drone capabilities. Bmps are bigger, but almost the same speed, and can have atleast some drone signal disturbers. Also theire big enough that not everyone dies there when Hit. wiesel cant even carry troops.

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

Yeah because wiesel isn't supposed to be an APC genius. They are light fire support vehicles for paratroopers. They never engage in direct fights, they instead ambush and assault objectives from cover and concealment where their small size makes them difficult to spot.

[@benimgirma]

Germany is weak country 😊 Germany have 180,000 troops active personal . If war happens Germany can survive only for 4 days

[@Highskill3r]

ok

[@xStefanx]

Und du bist ein depp

[@liborperutka5779]

but we are NATO and we have a LGBT!!! whats ya gonna do now!? huh!?

[@g3roingrimm79]

Come arround and find out ;D

[@mariokrings]

war doesn't just _happen..._