Germany Says: Trans Rights

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[@ThePhilNews]

Also, remember the chess trans ban? The German chess federation said they won't comply with the changes. Double trans dub

[@endermaster08]

the trans chess ban was an extremely stupid move considering the intelligence of chess players, so 2023 Germany is super fucking based.

[@123roland6]

Yeah, their statement on the new FIDE guideline was a nice read. They basically called FIDE idiots and said their new transphobic rules are probably illegal in germany and several other countries.

[@sinceritii3846]

​@@endermaster08yeah it kinda feels like they are signaling that amab folks are inherently better in chess when it is the discrimination and the lack of encouragement and suport that hold women back in chess The new rule is also inconsistent because they also dont allow trans men in the womens tournaments either

[@trianglemoebius]

​@@OscarLangleySoryuChess is a game that requires intelligent thinking - good chess players are good thinkers, and if you can think well, you can (and often do) end up a well-read, intelligent individual. Of course, what leads someone to become a reactionary is more complex than just "they're stupid", so education isn't a total defence, but it helps, and it means that telling a group of inherently educated, intelligent people to follow rules CLEARLY motivated by emotion and politics probably isn't going to go over well with them.

[@insector2]

I thought the whole point of making a women's league was because they were underrepresented in chess for various reasons. You'd think allowing a trans woman into the women's league would still follow that logic of giving underrepresented groups a space to play.

[@laeliuss7495]

Germany with the pro trans move, Brazil getting closer and closer to decriminalizing weed, the republican primary debate was horrible. We eating well this week.

[@overlookers]

And Trump's mugshot's TOMORROW

[@pastycayk1998]

​@@overlookersthis is way too much good news

[@szeddezs]

Germany also close to decriminalizing/semi-legalizing weed.

[@CassieAngelica]

@@overlookersDavid Pakman’s really joyful right now.=)

[@healgoth]

Brazil ruled that hate speech deserves prison time recently as well

[@Yormolch]

10% talking about the historic law change in germany 10% getting confused about euro languages 80% making fun of the dutch This is why I subbed.

[@Yormolch]

@@just_a_turtle_chad Yay, he returns. /s Go away, your input is bad and you should feel bad.

[@jonathanbosak8581]

​@@just_a_turtle_chadYou put the L in LGBTQ turtle

[@ashoka9306]

this one will play well with the germans

[@Yormolch]

@@ashoka9306 As a german, I can confirm, that complaining about/making fun of the dutch, the french and the brits always gets a chuckle out of me.

[@DrewTNaylor]

@@just_a_turtle_chad Oh so it's Opposite Day now?

[@JackDespero]

Germany's constitution has my favourite start of any constitution I have ever read: Artikel 1: 1. Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar. Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung aller staatlichen Gewalt. The human dignity/value is unimpeachable. To protect it and to defending is the moral duty of all the powers of the state. I mean, "The human dignity is unimpeachable" is a badass first sentence for a constitution.

[@erisch126]

Americans with their free speech.... I mean it´s fine and all. But you should start a document like that with a banger.

[@Luggaster]

I mean, there is some ugly reasons why we have that there, but agree its a good one

[@wta1518]

​@@erisch126That's the First Amendment. The constitution starts with "We the people blah blah more perfect union blah blah blah". And Article 1 starts with how Congress gets all Legislative powers.

[@troll2161]

Watch it being overturned in no time

[@SignumInterriti]

It's an amazing start and I'd love if politicians took human dignity more serious in their economic policy and how the unemployed are treated, because there's a lack of protection of dignity there that I regard as very much unconstitutional.

[@eugenegubbard4017]

"Why is german so different from the other romantic languages?" It's a mystery

[@commandercorl1544]

I sure wonder...

[@robbiekop7]

Pig Latin 🐖

[@Almost_a_hero]

I wonder why Austrian sounds so similar to Vietnamese?

[@Tacklepig]

Because it's not one lol Germanic languages are a thing. Actually, english is also one

[@cedricrust9953]

@@Tacklepig there are no "romantic" languages. Damn, Vaush is showing his American education again.

[@TheVaryox]

You already can change your legal sex/gender in Germany, you just need two certificates from different psychologists, a few thousand bucks and request a court hearing. Under the new law you will be able to just visit the registration office and be done basically.

[@FelonyArson]

Also under the TSG for the psychologist certificat they would often basically ask you to tell them everything about your kinks, what kind of porn you watch, what you like in bed etc. completely normal and 100% relevant questions to determine if you are trans /j

[@MrHodoAstartes]

​@FelonyArson Yeah, the questioning during the psychological examination being extremely invasive has been a thing across Europe due to ideas about autogynophilia as a separate concept. Which is naturally nonsense, but once research is entrenched in legal practice, it's hard to dislodge. And minority groups with specific complaints can go unheard for a long time.

[@jackbarman7063]

In California you only need to submit a document to the court and they pretty much rubber stamp it and give you a court order that allows you to change it with go government agencies (SS, passport, birth certificate, etc.) is my understanding. It does take a few months wait for the court to give you the court order though.

[@EmmaJ_462]

​@@FelonyArsonJesus fuck, I've never been glad to live in America

[@robbiekop7]

It's one step up from living in Canada 😣

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

10% misunderstanding the Selbstbestimmungsgesetz and worrying about potential kill lists 5% actual info 85% Dutch catching strays I love Vaush.

[@pikgears]

laughed out loud when he called German a romance language

[@prageruwu69]

american moment

[@TheVaryox]

There's this famous german saying, "Loch ist Loch" - what more romance could you possibly need?

[@Killroy007]

​@@TheVaryoxi honestly think "Das perverse Geblase und das Abfingern der Möse und des Arsches würde mich nach kürzester Zeit zum heftigsten Abspritzen der Zuchtwichse bringen, danach würde ich gerne noch die Fetteuter abgreifen während du mir mit Abmelkhandschuhen die restliche Sahne rauswichst" takes the cake on the romancing abilities of our language

[@dbdist1]

Smartest american.

[@user-yy5di3qg5u]

Mongolian is a Slavic language because they're using Cyrillic, duh /s

[@vaylard9474]

Having an extensive loaned Chinese vocabulary doesn't make Japanese Sino-Tibetan. Having an extensive loaned French vocabulary doesn't make English a Romance language. Simple as.

[@Ginkoman2]

true. the core and structure of the english language is germanic. you can form sentences with only germanic words, but not only with romance words. Also the romance words are mostly the fancy words. So while newspaper english uses many romance words, the normal lower class english uses much more germanic words.

[@Wheat_Paste]

Came for politics, stayed for Fun with Google Translate

[@OldemarFIN]

"German is a germanic language?!" - most intelligent monoglot

[@OldemarFIN]

"Everything that I learned about the Dutch was from Austin Powers 3" oh wait, that's actually based

[@Lilkidlover69]

​@@OldemarFIN "I should keep fighting wars, then losing, then keep fighting wars again, then losing" Most intelligent German.

[@OldemarFIN]

@@Lilkidlover69 Average monoglot non sequitur

[@Lilkidlover69]

@@OldemarFIN I don't speak chronically online incel language. Speak English, barbarian.

[@sisuguillam5109]

​@@Lilkidlover69you mean like the US?

[@juliahcornell]

Listening to Vaush repeating the word "Verfassung" and mangling it even more each time like a game of telephone had me cackling

[@unfollowtheinstructions6360]

As a German: It is a beautiful language, but it's silly and convoluted as hell and so is the country and its people. (But trans rights are cool!)

[@nathangillingham5734]

I like how he spoke on how much German grammar doesn't make sense as if he knows anything about German grammar. I always found it to be complicated but concrete and uniform. But of course no language is really complicated once you're used to it. Ich stimme dir auch zu, dass deutsch eine schöne Sprache ist. Ich hoffe, dass ich bald zurück nach Deutschland kommen kann. Grüßen aus Kanada:)

[@trianglemoebius]

I'm a non-native German speaker who also speaks two other languages (not counting English), so I can offer you an outsider's perspective: When learning German, I found there were very few exceptions, which was a relief as I could finally learn the grammar and get on with the rest, without having to worry about remembering 10 billion exceptions in every sentence. However, there are also a fair bit of rules to begin with - I felt like I was in a situation where I had to learn a bunch of rules, then figure out how exactly they intersected in whatever I was trying to say to say it right. So, German is consistent for sure, but that consistency itself is overly complex . I can't blame an outsider - much less an outsider who only speaks English (known for its exceptions) - assuming that it's full of exceptions, since there's no way they know all the rules.

[@serecano104]

I mean, imo it's so much less messy than english. english is a mangled mess of exception and convention to the point where common phrases become equally important to vocabulary german is a bit more grammatically complex but a lot more consistent. composite words are a really elegant solution to having to come up with new terms and the sentence structure is very clean.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@serecano104 There are some odd things, like diphtongs (eu, äu, ei) being pronounced nothing like the letters forming them, -er at the end of words being an -ah sound (schwa) and the redundancy of the letters C, Y and V. But at least those rules are consistent. Meanwhile, things people usually complain about like the case system are simply leftovers from Indo-European and the infamous Ä, Ö and Ü really make sense because you don't have to guess the way for example an A is pronounced like in English.

[@ilfedarkfairy]

As a German: I respectfully disagree with this entire statement(But yeah, trans rights are cool).

[@thunder-san1377]

As a Dutch speaking language nerd: I can forgive making fun of my native language because it is objectively funny but I draw the line at saying English is a Romance language.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Literally same.

[@tigrisparvus2970]

It's 60% badly pronounced French, what could be more romantic?

[@Xeridanus]

@@tigrisparvus2970 how can you say anything is badly pronounced French when the French themselves only pronounce half the letters written down?

[@CptApplestrudl]

@@tigrisparvus2970 A French trying to speak english! I once heard "Sootomtom"...referring to "South Hampton"

[@FunnyParadox]

​@@CptApplestrudlTbf as a french i wouldn't do much better at pronouncing that 😅

[@pcaccount1647]

Dutchie here, our government wanted to do the same thing the Germans did, with some slight changes, like having to go to court for a mental health evaluation if you wanted to change your gender on your ID for the 3rd time and also allowing minors as young as 16 to change their gender on their ID, provided that a parent or guardian gave consent. This would've been pretty pog, if the gov wasn't so vague about it. They were like "yeah, this is great and all, maybe you wouldn't need to talk to a gender therapist for permission to get an ID change nowadays, but you would need to speak to SOMEBODY about getting your ID change, at least" and then they basically ended up not changing anything from the previous transgender law we had. Which is a mega cringe move for a country that's generally seen as progressive and pro LGBTQ. Also, what's up with the Dutchie slander? We love to neuk in de keuken, OK?!

[@Alias_Anybody]

Things like the elongated vowels (where English and Middle High German would use diphtongs and Modern German short vowels), the infamous Dutch G and the frequent use of the J sound (Y in English) simply sound hillarious.

[@laziri95]

I wanted to celebrate but this law has so many flaws that I felt empty.... It's not done yet, we've still some time to work on it, sign petitions, talk to the legislative people, amplify the voices.

[@gc4809]

True And the German right is far to represented in the Media with there bs opposition to these kind of development

[@raptorrise8537]

Especially when you compare it to the first draft. Everything is so watered down. They really had an open ear for every transphobic talking point, CDU and AfD complained about. :/

[@netrick02]

This

[@DominikSchwager]

On the one hand I agree with you, on the other hand, this is a massive step in the right direction and will make taking further steps easier. Just getting rid of the pricepoint and psychologist-visit requirements of the current process would be a meassive win for many many people.

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

Honestly there isn't much to do, legal wise. You can change gender when 18 and up or with parental permission between 14 (I think) and 18. Name changes where pretty common before the law-change and the gender-change in the citizen registry now is basically an afternoon chore, thanks to the change. Germany knew about trans people a for long time. And they where somewhat accepted. There where a lot of "haha, you didn't know I was a man" - jokes in mainstream comedy and even some trans celebrities. This is probably why the far right doesn't howl and screech about it like in the US, at least not publically, and at least not until now. Although frying voices have been gotten slightly more, because we have to import every dumb brain-rot from the US.

[@kyro8559]

i love that a decent portion of this video is just vaush laughing hysterically at the dutch and making a bunch of jokes a 12 year-old would make. great content as always

[@TheMarcQ]

neuken in de keuken

[@justsomeguy6336]

Really goes to show the maturity of Vaush’s audience.

[@kyro8559]

@@justsomeguy6336 cry about it

[@hardermusic]

The projected start for Germany's self-ID law is November 24. The goal is to declare your name and gender and your official documentation is updated. The "registry" of previous names and gender IDs is basically just a buffer step to make sure that a criminal can not escape law enforcement by changing their name and gender (that is: If there is an open case against you, your prior information is kept on file - otherwise it just gets deleted).

[@E.Mulchi]

You don't need that if you marry and change your name. Why are trans people put under general suspicion? Also any information is not only a case. So bc the police had to come bc someone stole my work computer from the office they now have information on me and I will forever be connected to my old name for the police. It is not only the police that get the info. Some government offices have info on basically anyone so they would have a list of all the trans people in their area of influence. That is pretty bad bc I don't trust this info to stay there. Just one right-wing guy is enough for the names and addresses to get into the wrong hands... I don't trust these offices at all and I don't see a need for preemptively sending out this info...

[@Khalkara]

As a Dutch person I approve of this segment

[@Lilkidlover69]

Nobody cares about the Dutch. Go make your ice cream or whatever you weirdos do.

[@originalulix]

For us Germans Dutch sounds like a very funny mix of German and English. My favorite is "Smoking is deadly", which translates to "Roken is dodelijk" in Dutch. Hilarious.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

German humor truly is no laughing matter

[@originalulix]

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan How can you not laugh at the word "dodelijk" meaning deadly?

[@page8301]

@@Josep_Hernandez_LujanWe are hilarious!

[@idontcare9041]

In german the sentence translates to "Rauchen ist tödlich" btw so yeah a lot of similarities.

[@katywalker8322]

As a Dutch speaker told me, Dutch is just English with a very strong German accent.

[@obnoxiousNoxy]

Some background on the whole registry thing: Every resident of Germany must have their current place of residence registered with the local government. That registry entry also contains full name and everything. It is mentioned here because if someone were to change their legal gender or name these entries would be changed on the registry.

[@TobiasRD]

Right-wingers often tell us that we Germans don't love our country. That we have been taught to hate it. This isn't true. It's just that the things we love our country for and are proud of it for make them go "Wait, not that! Don't be proud of that! That is bad!" I remember back in 2015 during the Migrant Crisis' peak, I was immensely proud that my country had become a beacon of hope for people fleeing persecution. I was proud of our civil society, which in a growing far-right backlash told those people to suck it. Hell, I'll even give some credit to German conservatives for their refusal to pander to and legitimize bigotry for political gain (most of the time anyway). I remember in 2017, a few days before my birthday, I learned that we were going to drop the "civil union" compromise and I would be able to finally, no-nonsense marry my partner. When conservatives and "traditionalists" tried to fearmonger, they mostly fell on deaf ears. Today I'm feeling proud of my country again.

[@Lilkidlover69]

I'm not reading all that nazi. Don't care.

[@ADHDgrapher]

I'm Belgian-Dutch (Belgian side is French speaker) and I'm a bit of a language nerd, I speak some German, Norwegian, etc and I listen to vaush to go to sleep and I was dosing off but when the video veered into language stuff I got kicked in the head by a proverbial mule because of the uncultured takes. First I was outraged at voosh but then I couldn't stop laughing. Godverdomme Vaush, ik moest slapen!

[@snapgab]

Belgians aren't allowed to have opinions on language, your accents are too silly.

[@lavenderinthedark]

im learning dutch and hoping to move to the netherlands soon, i couldnt help but laugh along most of the time when people make fun of european countries, it just feels like the same way conservatives make fun of minorities. but the way he went about it with this was actually kinda funny and didnt feel discriminatory

[@wta1518]

​@@snapgabAnd they're also too Belgian.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@snapgab I always remember one discussion where some guy was saying he doesn't like the sound of French, he knows a native speaker and it doesn't sound good. He was immediately swarmed by 15 French people asking if the guy he was referring to was Belgian.

[@grzeg_]

@@snapgabnothing can be too silly, maybe not silly enough would be problematic

[@phoinixslayer]

Germany: Time to do what is called a 'pro-gamer move'

[@void-creature]

Ein professionelles Spieler Manöver

[@RunawayTrain2502]

That was around 1939 right?

[@Lilkidlover69]

Constantly losing wars is considered a "pro gamer move" now I guess. Germans want to feel superior so bad lmao.

[@FishfaceTheDestroyer]

Pro-gamer move (a move in favour of gamers)

[@DarthYoshi401]

As a big fan of Prussian King Frederick the Gay, I'm happy to hear about this development.

[@arrowodd7695]

I'm dying right now that is funny

[@commandercorl1544]

Friedrich der Groesse, famous for being super duper heterosexual and not the slightest bit gay and super duper straight and only liking women.

[@Alias_Anybody]

@@commandercorl1544 I mean him NOT liking women was far better known than him liking men.

[@feurigessiegelstuck233]

I mean, Friedrich der Große really did build a palace for him and the boys. And it helps that the name of the palace sounds to me, an uncultured fr*nch hating german, like "sausage", so I suppose this discussion has been settled for half a century.

[@commandercorl1544]

@@Alias_Anybody true!! and straight men are famous for hating women so cleaaarrrrlly he was straight

[@RandarTheBarbarian]

"There are only 2 things I can't stand in this world, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch" -Nigel Powers

[@comyuse9103]

such a wise man

[@robertray2714]

Vonch linguistics tangent this is what I live for🙏 If anyone was wondering, only around 10% of English's words are of Germanic origin, but since it retains Germanic grammar and syntax, linguists categorize it as Germanic. The majority of the words are of Romance origin through Latin and Norman French, but the Germanic 10% of words are the most integral ("to be", "good", "bad", etc). Some words are also of Greek origin filtered through Latin but whatever mane

[@manojoogo5003]

I wonder how much of the language comes from the celtic people or even from the pre-celtic inhabitants of Britain.

[@sebe2255]

It is not 10% more like around a quarter of all words. But yes, the Germanic words are the most used ones. You can have 10.000 Latin dictionary terms that no one uses so looking at just the total doesn’t paint an accurate picture. I think the 100 most used words are all Germanic

[@sebe2255]

@@manojoogo5003None basically, the Celtic languages left no traces in old english. No one actually knows why, because normally when two groups interact like the Britons and the Anglo-Saxons must have done, you would expect far more loan words from Celtic

[@God_gundam36]

What I've took away from this segment is that I want a whole stream of vaush Google translating the duch

[@sigmascrub]

I like Dutch. 🥺 It's like German if Germans were capable of feeling joy.

[@mogo-wc7xw]

trans rights

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

im always saying this

[@toast47178]

​@@just_a_turtle_chad have you ever tried coping? I think it could be really good for you

[@DarthYoshi401]

Trans rechte!

[@phalamy9180]

Yeah babyyyyy

[@jointser1008]

@@just_a_turtle_chad based

[@the5002ndpanda]

For anyone who was confused about English's language family: It's genetically West Germanic with heavy Romance influence (particularly in vocabulary). It's not "both" because English is not directly descended from Latin.

[@Tes0830]

You know with all goin on rn, there’s one thing I’ve come to realize from the EU We always need to fight for freedom for minorities, but remember their rights and our freedoms will never die, yea America is going down a bad path, but then there’s a Germany or say new zeland who wants to move farther into acceptance

[@HarryDirtay]

True. The international norms arent really controlled by the US. Several times there's something resembling guidance.

[@troll2161]

Germany isn’t as good as it seems. I think the US, as of now, has the best chances of defending and maintaining its (semi-)liberal democracy. If Republicans don’t manage to abolish democracy in the coming decade(s), the demographic change in America will single-handedly force Republicans to move on from white supremacism and/or tip the balance into the Democrats‘ favor. European countries however, will devolve into dystopian ethnostates with their current trajectory. The same goes for Germany. And as someone with a migratory background, I can tell you, living in Germany is scary. I don’t feel safe here, I don’t trust German law enforcement and German society to protect the rights of minorities and the same applies to the rest of Europe as well. Time will tell, but I’m already preparing to leave the country once things start to go downhill.

[@jointser1008]

no we shouldn't listen to the screaming minority the majority is still more important as a german i'm against this new law

[@Justme-rt4gj]

Yeah I am sure german women are so happy of the acceptance show by migrants on new years eve on Cologne in 2015

[@troll2161]

@@Justme-rt4gj and I‘m sure the literal thousands of people who were and still are physically attacked by neo nazis, not to mention innocent immigrants who were harassed and prosecuted by the police felt very safe and protected in Germany. I thought all German citizens are supposed to be treated equally, so why is it that the German government is allowing German citizens with a migratory background to be targeted and beaten up/murdered by neo-nazis and the police? Why doesn’t anyone from the AfD speak up against the violence these people face daily, if they are so concerned with the well-being of the German people? (btw, violence against German citizens with a non-German ethnic background greatly exceeds violence against women by immigrants, which is nothing more than a statistical anomaly). Why does nobody care? Why is it that the supposed „party of the people“ doesn’t acknowledge the problem or do anything about it? I‘ll tell you why. Because the far-right are all racist and xenophobic thugs, who aren’t concerned with protecting the German people, but much rather with killing off everyone with the tiniest bit of non-German heritage as quickly as possible. But yeah, keep parroting your „bUt WhAt AbOuT wOmEn“-bs and then proceed to not care for every other marginalized group or standing up for women’s rights by actually fighting for them.

[@lukelorianTRON]

The AP3 line 'There are only 2 things I hate in the world, People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures, and the Dutch' wraps it up nicely XD

[@I_dont_need_a_handle]

Ok let's do this: The registry is the "Standesamt", where citizen data is stored. This is also the place where you'd have to legally change your name or get married. There once was an inquiry from AfD State-representatives to aquire how many Trans-people are in the said state. This was shot down by all other parties. Also, data exchange between agencies is near impossible in germany due to data proction laws. It's an annoying hindrance in 99.9% of cases. This is the one case they claim it's for. The BVS (constitution protection agency) is an unreliable do-nothing agency with almost no power. Watching people and adviceing in legislature and court cases is practically all they can do. Some super-fringe parties have indeed been baned left and right (literally). But one noticeable exception was the NPD and yes: the N is for Nazi (long: Nationalsozialistisch). The reason it wasn't was because it had gotten insignificant due to the AfD's rise, or so the argument went. Also: The BVS had been run long time by a far-right-wing conspiracist that even aided the AfD in how to avoid getting on their watch-list, (wich is also probably why the NPD wasn't banned). It was a huge scandal here. The center-right party even tried to hire that person as a ministry consultant after he was fired, but changed course when they noticed how much he had fallen out of favor. German technically is a germanic language and so is English. Both our ancestors where called Anglo-Saxons, and Saxony is, to this day, part of Germany. They literally didn't change name in well over 2000 years. The reason your language sounds so different is bacause you guys took more from the French than we did and French is a romanic language.

[@narnius6139]

Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.

[@fedos]

The best part about this is Vaush not knowing that German isn't a -Romantic- Romance language.

[@jurgnobs1308]

and that it's romance, not romantic

[@hichaelhighers]

​@@jurgnobs1308What?

[@jurgnobs1308]

@@hichaelhighers there is no such thing as "romantic languages" in the linguistic sence. and he kept saying "romantic". the correct word is "romance language".

[@jurgnobs1308]

@@hichaelhighers while the noun "romance" means a romantic relationship, and the verb "romance" is the act to engage in one, the adjective that corresponds to thise is "romantic". so, when vaush kept saying "romantic language", hr used a wrong term. the idea of "romantic languages" is the unscientific idea that some langaues are inherently sexy and easier to romance with. the term for languages based in roman/latin roots is "romance languages" or sometimes "romanic lanuages" but never "romantic languages".

[@hichaelhighers]

@@jurgnobs1308 Whoops gotcha, thanks. I really didn't know it was "Romance languages", that sounded like a play of words with romantic. I thought from memory it was "Romanic" because I'm German and we say "romanisch".

[@ProNice]

I'm actually glad that we finally managed to make significant progress in Germany. The old laws were demeaning and really obstructive.

[@CptApplestrudl]

There's more where that came from.

[@MilaOfTheSwamp]

German is a Germanic language, not a Romanic. They're literally in the word!

[@maxmeng4823]

German dub we’ll forget about the 40’s

[@zagreus5773]

AfD currently at 20% in the polls: Let us remind you!

[@void-creature]

You won't. it will still be the first thing mentioned whenever I say that I'm German, and I've learnt to live with that.

[@zagreus5773]

@@void-creature I'm also German and interact with many non Germans. Hardly anyone mentions it and those that do, do it as a joke. Maybe it's only 14 year olds on the internet that think it's hilarious?

[@phalamy9180]

You may forgive us but we sure won't

[@jointser1008]

@@zagreus5773 they are not N*zis tho. do your research

[@NickdeDrummer]

He should do a stunlock on the history of the British isles. It's not as straightforward as, Romans had it, so their culture is dominant. Let's just say they had a few regime changes between then and now.

[@user-yy5di3qg5u]

He needs to play Paradox strategy games (it's a joke of mine ofc but still funny).

[@h4724-q6j]

Specific to what he was talking about here, the Romans never really dominated the language in Britain and English did not develop out of Latin at all; the Anglo-Saxons and the Vikings arrived after the Romans left, and the Romance elements of English mostly came later still from the Normans, as well as from people during the Renaissance borrowing words directly from Latin because they thought it made them sound smarter. There is a lot of Latin-derived vocabulary in Modern English, but we didn't get it from the Romans.

[@pintpullinggeek]

To be fair the British Isles is probably one of the more stable areas of Europe. It hasn't been successfully invaded/occupied since 1066 by someone not already living on the Isles.

[@Mercure250]

@@h4724-q6j There are *some* words that come from the Romans, but it's more like, the Germanic people in general borrowed those Latin words and the Anglo-Saxons just brought them with them. A notable example is the word "cheese", from Latin "caesus". But yes, those words are relatively rare.

[@sebe2255]

Yeah the Romans left before the English (Angles, Saxons and Jutes) even arrived. And all they found was a collapsed urban society and ruins

[@redstonepro5412]

I looked a bit more in the self-ID-police thing, and complaining about it really is just complaining about the self-ID law not abolishing the police. The part that the complaints are about is that the name and gender change get forwarded to the police, but really in the least bad way that still makes sure that the police can link former crimes committed under the deadname to the person. they get a notification about the name and gender change, but if they don't have a reason to keep it, they are required to immediately delete it. So there is no list of every trans person. I don't really see how they could make the law better. The only alternative would be either abolishing the police, which is not something i would expect from a self-ID-law, or giving the data only to the police if there are investigations against the person or the person is a former criminal. but that would mean the police would have to give that data away to someone who probably should not get it. Therefore i think this is the least bad solution, and what actually would be neccesary is to make sure the police follows that law, not to change the law itself. There are other things about the law which imo. deserve more criticism, but for the police part i really don't see an issue.

[@Eibarwoman]

The problem is AfD has way too much power in Germany right now and has infiltrated the police and many other aspects of government.

[@grasswobbler]

The complaint is that the data gets sent to like 10 different agencies, and includes Deadname, new name, obviously but also people's addresses for some reason. They're supposed to delete the data if they don't have any existing information on that person, but if you even reported a stolen bike, they get to keep it. On top of that, there's been multiple occurrences of police being caught in private nazi-whatsapp chats, so there would just need to be a nazi policeman sitting at the right place at the right time to get a bunch of trans people's addresses that he can then send on to his nazi friends.

[@redstonepro5412]

the data gets to the agencies which would potentially need the link between old and new identity, and since there are people with the same name some other information is needed. and i am pretty sure the police can access the address of people anyways. and yes, if they have some information that they need to log about someone, they obviously need to keep the link between old and new identity. how else should they be able to identify who reported the stolen bike if they e.g. find that stolen bike and want to return it to the owner? and yes, i know that there are nazis in our police. but than the issue is the police not doing what they are supposed to do, and not the police being allowed to do things which they shouldn't be allowed to. that is something a law can't fix.

[@troll2161]

The problem is that a simple paragraph won’t stop German law enforcement, which is basically undermined by the far-right on every level (not saying everyone in German law enforcement is a nazi, just saying they are everywhere and have access to everything), I can assure you they’ll use this data to track, possibly harass and, when the far-right takes over, murder trans people. It’s a real possibility. Same thing with the German government keeping track of every single citizen with foreign ancestry.

[@zagreus5773]

There is a weird relationship between English and German. Old English is somewhat easier to understand for Germans than for modern English speakers. Maybe the Germanic elements of English were stronger in the past? You can see the germanicness of English in one of the examples Vaush tried. "doet pijn" just means "does pain" ie. "it hurts", both does and pain are Germanic in origin. Edit: Pain is actually Latin in origin, but Dutch and German also borrowed it (pijn and Pein).

[@prettyokandy230]

dutch looks a lot more like english than german does in my humble opinion as a dutch man. also makes a lot of sense historically.

[@zagreus5773]

@@prettyokandy230 No need to be humble, you are certainly right :) Especially when you read it the similarities become obvious.

[@sub-harmonik]

it's not 'weird' they're literally in the same language family bc anglo-saxons brought their language to england. Then over time it took on some elements from old french from the norman conquest

[@elalcazar7374]

The german word for pain is Schmerz btw. I literally never heard anyone say the word Pein.

[@h4724-q6j]

"Maybe the Germanic elements of English were stronger in the past" This is sort of true, in that the Germanic elements were more or less the _only_ part of English in the past.

[@ishi_gho9695]

As a linguist this hurts a little

[@WhiteScorpio2]

As a non-linguist language enjoyer, this hurts a lot.

[@HWjabber]

How far they've come.

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

English is a Germanic language. Not "both". It has a few French influences though because of loanwords. Source: I've studied Germanic languages, specifically Dutch & English

[@jurgnobs1308]

by far most linguists disagree with you. and the idea that it's just because of "loanwords" is beyond insane. source: I have studied Germanic linguistics (not languages, but the scientific study of languages) and I have a functioning brain. clearly you slept through most od your studies.

[@sebe2255]

@@jurgnobs1308 No one claims English is a Latin language. What propaganda uni did you attend lmao?

[@jurgnobs1308]

@@sebe2255 anyone with a functining brain and any idea if linguistics knows that english is a massive mix of latin and germanic languages.

[@lnplum]

Vaush should have listened to German trans people before celebrating this. The law as finalized includes the requirement that the name changes are sent to various government agencies, which effectively allows them to create lists of trans people. It also excludes anyone "at risk of deportation" and requires a waiting period and an announcement to the agency six months ahead of the change, meaning a bad faith clerk could just "misplace" your announcement and reject the change. It also includes a provision to allow businesses like sauna operators to discriminate against trans people.

[@user-xl8jm3zy1f]

Sounds like the German love for paperwork

[@KomradeKrusher]

What do you think happened so far when someone changed their name? It just magically appeared on all their documents and no government agency was made aware of that change? All traces of their former "identity" just vanished into thin air and nobody could ever trace "Diana Meier" back to "Dieter Meier"? Also, do you have the slightest idea how much the current process hinged on the good will of doctors, psychiatrists, and THEN some government agency clerk? How intrusive, humiliating and outright violating the whole psychological assessment could be, depending on the doctors involved and their inclination to help? How long waiting times have been to even get that psychological assessment to begin with? Six months is nothing in comparison. I'm genuinely curious how people who are critical of the new proposal think things have worked thus far and how that has been in any way "better".

[@trollinator4838]

sauna operators dont and didnt need that law to reject people who wouldnt pass as their prefered gender. Every business has the right to reject individuals from their service. If trans-women (in this paticular case) dont even pass remotely as "regular" women, most operators would doubt that they had bottom surgery and that would most likely be an inconvinience for their other customers on ladies day. Although i dont think such a day is necessary for various reasons, there are women who want that kind of separation in private places and that's okay.

[@swanpride]

What a bunch of nonsense. For one, government records are under data protection, you can't just request them. And two, most sauna in Germany are for both women and men who share the space anyway, and in those places which offer "women only" evenings or areas, well, they always had the right to reject or let in whoever they wanted, since they are private businesses. And considering that Sauna's in Germany are visited nude, well, there never was much to hide in the first place, was there?

[@kevinthecat9704]

4:00 okay... The Germanic languages are native to Denmark, north Germany and the lowlands. Proto-Germanic was spoken around 500 BC in this area. Germanic then split into three brances, east, west, and north. All East Germanic languages are extinct. The North Germanic languages are spoken in Scandanavia and Iceland, and include Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, and a few others. The West Germanic languages compose of the entire rest of the branch, and include German, Dutch, and English. English was developed when the Angles and Jutes invaded England and began replacing the native Celtic languages. This germanic language was called "Anglo-Saxon" or Old English. Old English gradually began to become more simplified because of loans from the North Germanic languages, which were spread by viking invasions in the late 1st millenia. Old English became Middle English after the Norman invasion in 1066 which succesfully unified England. The Norman language was a Romance language, closer to Latin than English. Because of heavy Norman influence, English actually became slightly closer to the Italic languages in terms of vocabulary, but its grammar is still almost completely Germanic. The Romance languages actually only refer to the languages that descended from Latin, which includes Romanian, French, Spanish, and several others. The Romance languages are part of the larger Italic branch, which includes several extinct bronze age languages like Faliscan (the closest language to Latin), Umbrian, and South Picene. Proto-Italic was spoken around 1000 BCE in the Po river basin. Italic, Germanic, and the Celtic languages that were displaced by Anglo-Saxon (although a few are still spoken) are all part of the larger Indo-European language family, going back to around 4000 BCE, the proto language being spoken in the Pontic steppe, north of the Black sea. The Indo-European family also includes the Balto-Slavic languages (Russian, Lithuanian, Polish, ect...), Hellenic languages (Greek, Tsakonian, ect...), the Armenian and Albanian languages, and the massive Indo-Iranian branch, which is further split into Iranian (Persian, Pashto, ect...), Indo-Aryan (Hindi, Nepali, ect...), and the small Nuristani branch. So yes, English is not only related to Spanish, but also Kurdish, Hindi, and even Rohingya, the only one native to Myanmar. Also, nearly half of the world population natively speaks an Indo-European language. NOTE that the Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are NOT Indo-European. These languages are all Uralic, which are unrelated. Proto-Uralic was spoken east of the Ural mountains around 3500 BCE, although this date is heavily disputed.

[@lovepatrolalpha511]

Damn that's crazy

[@kevinthecat9704]

@@lovepatrolalpha511 tru

[@riesenfliegefly7139]

As a german. No, I have not heard about it.

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

It was mentioned in the news on pretty much all common radio stations this week (I drive a lot and need to pay some attention to the traffic news, so I listen to the radio fairly often, with changing stations)

[@Lilkidlover69]

Germans are alot like Ukranians. They love getting their asses kicked.

[@FafliXx]

The thing with the "registry" is that police are able to look up people's names and stuff in general. And if they look up a name, it will probably show the history of name changes. But I don't know why that would be surprising. Needing a court decision to change names and legal gender is worse in every way. .

[@pancakes8670]

The basics of whether or not English is a Romantic Language or a Germanic one: It's literally both. Very very complicated, the most I understand is that it's essentially Normand, Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, and Medieval Latin all stacked on top of each other and wearing a Trench Coat.

[@sub-harmonik]

it's germanic w/ a lot of other influences.

[@angelainamarie9656]

OE was germanic. You can see what that looked like in Beowulf. In 1066, the Normans conquered England. They dumped a bunch of french words into it and the language became what you see in Chaucer's Cantebury Tales. The basic 300 words that get used by everyone are mainly OE words. There was no direct Latin influence, it was Latin through the French, which like all of the 'romance' languages is an evolved dialect of Latin. Finally the printing press helped seal the form of English around Shakespeare's time, and Shakespeare is the English you can read that is basically the same as ours, with a lot more flowery sentence structure and vocabulary. Shakespeare had a redonk vocabulary, he was very smart. I believe other languages like English are Finnish, etc.

[@Medytacjusz]

linguists are also arguing about the presence or absence of trace microscopic Celtic influences

[@Andrew-bz4yo]

English is not also romantic PLEASE. it has a lot of influence from French and Latin in its vocabulary but that doesn't make it a romance language. it is Germanic

[@sub-harmonik]

@@angelainamarie9656 Finnish is in the Uralic family it's not even indo-european

[@1draigon]

One of the first western countries to do that It’s so based

[@jointser1008]

everything but based

[@thijmstickman8349]

I was questioning why half this video is just dutch language slander, but I thought about it and now understand that this is a high level critique of how the Netherlands is falling behind germany in terms of trans rights by still having crazy costs and wait times to change ones name and gender on official documents

[@JohnDoesSports]

Not only that, but a lot of people are sleeping on Dutch colonialism. It's like they got an undeserved free pass unlike the French and English for example.

[@delt-4462]

Its super funny because literally just cross the southern border and you're in Belgium, where we do this shit in the same language but way fucking better than you guys. We've done it better for 5 years, in fact!

[@sebe2255]

@@JohnDoesSports In the Anglo world maybe, because they don’t care about the Dutch in general. But I can assure you that within the Netherlands people whine about colonialism all the time So don’t worry, the Antilians have you covered

[@queenofnowhere]

Dutch is German and English mixed together, with a dose of serious brain injury thrown into it. Also, I can't believe the editors cut out the bit where he looks at the Dutch newspaper declaring Hitler dead. That got me so good.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Not really, Dutch is the older version of German (basically). And it is an ingredient that makes up English. English is the kitchen sink language, not Dutch.

[@pinksnake8001]

Not really tho. Your think that because they have the "english r" in the Netherlands. German and Dutch are actually very close, and English was gangbanged by French and other languages so it became a mix (with still Anglo-Saxon as a base). The grammar and even the vocabulary of Dutch and German have stayed really similar, and some dialects are a perfect mix between both languages.

[@ch.k.3377]

The reason why german does not resemble english in pronunciation is because german has twice in its history changed the vowel and consunant sound. Low German is very close to English

[@jjkthebest]

As a German who grew up in the Netherlands, this was very amusing for me

[@Warflay]

First, Germany does not really have any central registries. All registries are distributed to the municipalities. So there is no direct access unless they get electronically connected, which they currently are only partly. Also the municipalities are not allowed to share this data with other public offices without the citizens consent or strong legal basis (such as police access to driving license registers). This decentralized architecture founded in the constitution and has been reinforced by the constitutional court multiple times Second, this change to the law is direly needed. The previously existing transsexuellen-Gesetz (TSG) was horrible and one of the most backwards laws in all of Europe. It even was partly ruled to be unconstitutional, e.g. that a trans women needed to be chemically sterilized to be recognized as a women. This overhaul is long due

[@KomradeKrusher]

Thank you for speaking some sense against the insane fearmongering.

[@AtPlume]

I'm going through this right now in my home country, France. And wow, Germany made it much easier then here, even though it's gotten much easier here too since 2017. *If you're curious,* in France, before 2017, you used to need to be followed by a psychiatrist and also have undergone bottom surgeries and so on. Nowadays, it's easier. If I wanted to just start with a name change at first, I could go into a town hall with some written testimonies and if the person taking charge of my case isn't a transphobe (which has been known to be a problem, people down right refusing to give you the paperwork or demanding to see some papers from a psychiatrist), I'll get a few paperwork to fill... and bam, it should be done, in one or two weeks, I'll get my new ID card with my new name on it. But now, I need to go and change my gender which is more complicated. There's also another option, which is the one that I'm going to do. Change my gender and my name at the same time. Now, for this, it's more complicated. From what I understand, I need to go to a court and sit in front of some judges, and explain, as well as demonstrate, that I am indeed the gender that I say that I am, and which name I want to use. With this, I also need to bring proof of all of this. Written testimony of family, friends or whatever, with things proving their identities. Some bills under my new name. As well as maybe, some photos proving that I dress "according to my new gender". It's much, much, much better then it used to be. But it's still not perfect. France is an administrative hell. Everything moves awfully slow here. And what scares me the most about this system, is the human element. Because you could do everything perfectly right and still get denied your changes because the judges were transphobes. Which has been known to happen... Which is why I'm going to do some research on the various courthouse and so on. Thankfully, I'm in a city with lots of Queer associations and groups, so I can ask for help. But yeah, I feel stressed out as hell at the idea of having to go in front of a bunch of people and justify myself as to why _I want to be who I am_ and maybe have that be denied. So yeah. Yay for Germany! 🇩🇪🏳‍⚧

[@chucku00]

Bon courage.

[@AtPlume]

@@chucku00 Merci ! 🩵🩷🤍

[@troll2161]

Good luck and stay safe!🏳️‍⚧️

[@WhiteScorpio2]

That's insane. The idea that you have to do anything more than simply inform the state in order to legally change your name is wild.

[@benweiss262]

"Why is German so different from the other Romantic languages?" as a linguistics major this was very funny

[@angelainamarie9656]

The 300 basic words we all use are Old English in origin, basically. Words that sound more refined or "intelligent," are glommed on by the Normans, latin by way of the French. The rules for our language are two sets of conflicting rules, that's why they make no sense. Source: BA in English. LIt. You are correct about speaking english anywhere on earth. I learned basic phrases in Mandarin and every time I tried to talk to someone in China in Mandarin, they just spoke English at me and laughed. Same in South Korea, same in Mexico.

[@Wolf-ln1ml]

No wonder Mexicans responded in English when you spoke Mandarin... 😜🤣

[@Alias_Anybody]

Tbf here in Austria 80% would understand you but everyone would ignore you if you have a bad attitude like Vaush implied. It's an unspoken rule.

[@Spongebrain97]

It's pretty neat seeing this because the other day I was watching that Netflix history thing called Eldorado: Everything The Nazis Hate which talked about how 1920s Germany was pretty progressive regarding the LGBTQ community and highlighted the lives of some individuals including transwomen from back then

[@jointser1008]

one of the reasons why weimar failed

[@h4724-q6j]

​@@jointser1008homie really just said "the Nazis had a point" 🤡

[@user-xl8jm3zy1f]

Germany was pretty progressive in the cities but that went compöetely over the head od the rural population who viewed all that as degeneracy inspired by a group of people they did not like. Hitler managed to win many rural people over by idealising the German worker/farmer

[@thunder-san1377]

I'm kinda glad Dutch became the ha ha funny meme language because I've always thought of it as the boring language that's only good for writing boring official government documents and not to write like poetry or literature or whatever and at least being thought of as English and German's funny cousin is a step up.

[@PhlegmaticAbsentee]

To me, as a German speaker, Dutch sounds hella fascinating. Most of the language feels familiar, yet many words are unexpectedly different in many ways and make you wonder where the H*ll that came from (and then you just assume it must be weird French influence). There are "old" words in the Dutch language that were used in German, centuries ago, but fell out of use, making Dutch sound randomly "antiquated" sometimes. It's interesting to see which words survived in Dutch, that in German only continue to exist in old poetry. Finding these words feels like a nerdy treasure hunt (a simple example is the word "pijn" --> "pein"). It has a somewhat different rhythm and melody to it, too and has plot twists in almost every sentence. It's endearing in a way and fun to listen to, even if I don't actually understand it all. 10/10 cool language.

[@sebe2255]

(Old) Dutch was basically the language of the Franks though, so at least it has a cool history

[@nienkehuijbens301]

​@@PhlegmaticAbsenteewe dutch speakers feel more or less the same way about german funnily enough. Sounds veery similar but just not quite the same. Funny in a way

[@ArDeeMee]

Yup, was about time our politicians got their shit together.

[@gilesclone]

Because of the Norman conquest, all the “long” words in English are Latin/French in origin, but the shorter more Common Germanic words were retained. (That’s a bit of oversimplification but you get the idea).

[@BlackReshiram]

THE STAHNDEYSAMT i love how vaush pronounces it lmfao - love, a german watcher

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

Seltener Ampel Doppel-U

[@void-creature]

Der war gut 😂

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

Based dutch slander btw. 90% of german immigration process completed with that one

[@RustyDust101]

Germanic is part of the indo-germanic language group. Romantic languages were all part of the offshoot of Latin. English is a mixture of Plattdeutsch and of the Romantic French introduced by the Normans.

[@MarkArandjus]

Vaush has to be trolling, no way is he this ignorant about languages :D German is GERMANic, shocking I know. And yes English is Germanic. Infact English and German have largely the same grammar, just the words sound different. My name is Vaush, I like horses and cats. I hate chairs. = Mein Name ist Vaush, ich mag Pferde und Katzen. Ich hasse Stühle.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

You could even make it more similar by using "Ross" instead of "Pferd". Pferd is derived from Latin paraverēdus while Ross has its origin in Middle High German "ros" and finally Old High German "hros". Which really just looks like a very drunk person tried to write horse but wasn't able to find the e. And German Stuhl is of course very similar to English stool. There are also some neat tricks to make German words more like many English words. Like you can often (obviously not always) try to swap a d for th to look if that makes it more like an English word (diese -> thiese = already quite close to 'these'; drei -> threi = already close to 'three'; Bruder -> bruther = already close to 'brother'). You can try to swap tt or t for th as well: Mutter becomes Muther, very similar to 'mother'; Monat becomes Monath = 'month'. Or b with v: geben -> geven = give; Biber -> biver = beaver Or ch with gh*: Nacht -> Naght = night; Licht -> Light = light; Sicht -> Sight = sight *but be careful: Knecht -> Kneght -> Knight? Well, obviously not, but both words have the same origin, meaning something like 'servant'. The term "Waffenknecht" (weapon-servant) was actually used during medieval time as a term refering to a mounted warrior in heavy armor regardless of social class, similar to the English Man-At-Arms. But that term then developed towards Landsknecht/Kriegsknecht (land/war servant) which was now specifically a fighter who wasn't noble and didn't fight mounted while Knecht on its own was still mostly used as servant. The master/slave dialectic of Hegel is for example actually called Herrschaft und Knechtschaft - Lordship and bondage.

[@AdriaanZwemer]

as a dutch person: we'd just say spank me daddy, but in a dutch way, not what google told you, the bread one was gramatically incorrect, but is fine, and the last one is 100% correct (sorry)

[@TheBT]

Ich wünschte, ich könnte nach Deutschland ziehen, aber mein Deutsch braucht Arbeit

[@schaebiges_schuppentier]

Dein Deutsch braucht Arbeit? Dann viel Glück bei der Job-Suche.

[@szeddezs]

@@schaebiges_schuppentier Badumm-tss

[@TheBT]

@@schaebiges_schuppentier The funny thing is, I don't need to change jobs (and do have to take German cases)

[@littlestghost]

English is not also a Romantic language. It's Germanic. The heavy influence of French came when the Normans (i.e. French) invaded. That's why a lot of French words still used in English today, are words associated with the upper classes, e.g. pork vs pig.

[@ljr1252]

Vaush Video blueprint: - 12 seconds of politics - 5-50 minutes of discussing a topic with confidence but no knowledge - Dick jokes That's why we subscribe baby!

[@jackjames7283]

with lots of insult

[@prageruwu69]

oh mein gott zis komment section is full of kuntenserven

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

No, little German boy! Don't go into the Vaush pit!

[@JH-fb3mp]

That's cool but how does Jerma have the authority to do this?

[@summerlovinxx]

he bribed Germany with Jermoney

[@phalamy9180]

Jerma has full supreme authority of laws concerning his viewers, and as we all know, all Trans People are Jerma viewers.

[@Baffies78]

Only reason I remembered English was Germanic is because we count to 12 before doing the teens, non-germanic languages count numbers after ten the same.

[@MyNameIsBlueNova]

Ah yes, Im so glad half the video was talking about how different langueges are rather than talking about hte actual topic. Exactly the content I need

[@azazel166]

Also Brazil's supreme court: Homophobia punishable by prison.

[@endaohalloran6649]

Vaush is at his best when he's ignorantly meandering through European geopolitics

[@E.Mulchi]

Not as based sadly. They include that trans women can still be discriminated against in female-only spaces like locker rooms. Since you don't have to disclose that you are trans this goes for too masculine-appearing cis women too. If you change your name a lot of places will be informed like the police if you are in any way known to them they will get the info about the name change. For example, if you ever had any contact with the police they will be informed. You are basically put under general suspicion. It would be acceptable if they get this information when they start an investigation but why do they need to connect the old to the new name by default? That is not done if you marry and change your last name... Also with how right-wing the police and other government offices are it is also not great to send this info out like that. So basically. It gets cheaper and easier to change your name but we actually lose protections we had before.

[@KomradeKrusher]

Like, do you actually, seriously believe that government agencies did not receive all this info so far yet? There's like a dozen government agencies that get informed about the "Personenstandsänderung" as it is. I have no love for German police, but this fearmongering is insane. Would you prefer trans people would need to continue making naked backflips through burning hoops without that really making their data any safer?

[@fullaregrets5015]

This is a slap in the face to the Reich-Wing parties of Germany & I'm loving it.

[@riesenfliegefly7139]

Came for the politics, stayed for dunking on the dutch xD

[@Babe-mh5gw]

fuck dunking on the dutch, when do we get debunking the dutch am i right gamers?

[@szeddezs]

Vaush making fun of the Dutch "language" gives me life force lmao

[@chrisjeaaalbertos3802]

Je kan ook te ver gaan vriend

[@commandercorl1544]

Dutch isn't even a language, it's someone who learnt German, and then drunkingly smashed their keyboard based on what they saw.

[@szeddezs]

@@chrisjeaaalbertos3802 Ich hab dein fiets :)

[@chrisjeaaalbertos3802]

​@@commandercorl1544 my guy, if you are going to try to repeat the joke Vaush make please just repeat what he said verbatim and don't try to change things because you fucked it up, also don't do that under the video in which he makes the joke. Makes you look pathetic

[@chrisjeaaalbertos3802]

​@@szeddezs Lol

[@SemiIocon]

This law is a huge step forwards and at the same time, not nearly enough and has some weird discriminatory parts that will be struck down by the German human rights court just like a lot of the current trans law has been declared discriminatory over the last 40 years (yes, the current law is from the freaking 80s).

[@orionriftclan2727]

Germany 1930s: "Kill anyone different" Germany Now: "Why would we care"

[@MCKevin289]

In France you have to say “pardon de vous deranger, je ne pas parle français, parlez vous anglais?” and they’d speak English to you and help.

[@Kickiusz]

Same in Polish, all you have to do is remember this simple phrase: "Przepraszam bardzo, panie kierowniku, królu złoty, bardzo chciałbym porozumieć się z panem w pana ojczystym języku, jednak pech chciał, że nie miałem jeszcze okazji nabyć umiejętności władania polszczyzną. Czy mógłby pan, w swojej szlachetności, pomóc mi z jednym maleńkim problemem, jeśli ma pan akurat chwilkę? Nadmienię jeszcze, że swoje braki w znajomości języka Piastów nadrabiam ponadprzeciętnym operowaniem językiem angielskim." and it works like a charm. Alternatively, just saying "Kurwa mać Wałęsa Jan Paweł Drugi" will probably get you whatever you want and a couple of drinks. Just don't repeat any phrases they try to teach you, trust me on that one.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Yeah, the grammatical error really sells the fact that you don't speak french. :P

[@MCKevin289]

@@ImaginaryMdA Ironically, my aunt is a French teacher.

[@MCKevin289]

@@Kickiusz In Brazilian Portuguese say enternamente McKevin and you’ll get a response. It’s how I met my girlfriend lol.

[@angeloskoulas3988]

English is a Germanic language by any classification, not a Romance (Latin based) one. However it has a higher share of Latin vocabulary compared to other Germanic languages. But it cannot be both, this classification is based on grammar structures and historical evolution of the language.

[@jurgnobs1308]

yes, it can absolutely be both and by far most linguiists agree it is both. especially because it shares grammar structures with both and because of the historic evolution of the language. english is a mixture of germanic and latin in essentially every single aspect.

[@Finkeren]

English is 100% a Germanic language, most closely related to Dutch and Danish/Norwegian. Old English (as spoken by the Anglo-Saxons - the actual Anglo-Saxons) was mutually itelligible with Old Norse. English just has A LOT of vocabulary borrowed from Old French langues d'oïl because of the Norman invasion, which gave birth to Middle English, but at its core, it's absolutely a West Germanic language.

[@swanpride]

It's the most obvious when it comes to animals and food...the english word "cow" is clearly related to the German "Kuh", but you eat "beaf" which is clearly based on the french word for "beouf" for the dish. The english "scheep" sounds like the German "schaf" and the "lamb" like the German "lamm", but you eat "mutton" from the french word "mouton".

[@Kman20025]

Hey, my people have more to offer than funny mustaches :D

[@fee6362]

Sometimes Germans call dutch, "Lustiges deutsch" (silly German). And I have heard dutch people calling German "serious dutch" For me, as someone who lives somewhat close to the NL border, I understand dutch quit well, even though I can't speak it. And as someone who also speaks Norwegian, Norwegian is like a mix between German and English with some funny words.

[@ImaginaryMdA]

I've never heard a single Dutch person call German 'serious Dutch'. We think you sound harsh, not "serious".

[@Lilkidlover69]

I call Germans Eternal Losers because they're always losing wars.

[@Lilkidlover69]

I don't call Norwegians anything because they're too unimportant to be addressed. The next time I need a Viking movie made I'll give you a call.

[@JohnDoesSports]

Norwegian is just silly Swedish. Swedes joke about the Norwegian word for "banana" being "guleböj" which roughly translates to "yellow bend".

[@sebe2255]

@@ImaginaryMdAWhich is ridiculous. If you actually interacted with Germans you’d know they all sound gay. Meanwhile Dutch people actually sound harsh because they have harsher sounds (mostly the g)

[@grennoin3108]

As a german born and raised near the dutch border, I agree with everything Vaush said about the dutch language. Plus, we have a saying that if you fail your drivers license three times, you get a yellow license plate instead of the german white one. Guess that's why they put so much effort in bike infrastructure. On a serious note, this law change is already taking forever. Rumors said that we would get this "next summer" when I started my legal procedings in 2021, then I heard from a rather trustworthy source in 2022 that it would likely take effect "next summer", but now we still have to wait until it's actually passed and in the text it says November 2024, I fucking hate our bureocracy.

[@syeblaize]

Vaush taking a HUUUUGE L saying that French's pronounciation make any god damn sense.

[@neezduts69420]

Aber Deutsch ist ja eine sehr romantische Sprache UwU

[@etasjo]

wie soll man überhaupt auf deutsch schmutzig reden ich lach da immer wenn dass jemand versucht

[@neezduts69420]

@@etasjo keine Ahnung 🤣

[@Hi-Im-salad]

now that’s what I call a redemption arc

[@Devin7Eleven]

There is no redemption arc here. It’s going deeper into hell. Men aren’t women. Women aren’t men. Facts are facts.

[@Hi-Im-salad]

@@Devin7Eleven and the fact of the mater is that trans people are valid and feeling that way is normal, scientists and phycologists alike say so, and when have they been wrong

[@teniente_snafu]

Rights are rights. Can't deprive anyone of their rights for no reason or because you don't like or understand them

[@swanpride]

A little history why english is "both" - it's because of its location. There were basically people from Germanic areas and french areas settling down there, influencing the language.

[@SA-mo3hq]

I think we can all agree Dutch is a meme language

[@chucku00]

Foutloos. Meme language also includes Turkish, tho.

[@dynamicworlds1]

Bram Stoker agrees. (But would say the same about Americans)

[@brandongarcia2929]

It's truly the most hinga dinga durgen of all time

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

I actually learned Dutch in school as a German and I live near the Dutch border (and now a cute Dutch furry) and yeah, it was very funny for me. Although the thing is that Dutch also sounds a lot like the local dialect (which I never learned) and my parents and grandparents only spoke that dialect when they were drunk, so that added a lot to the "drunken German" experience. I remember we read a book called "Alleen maar nette mensen" and it's basically about some rich young adult who describes himself as "a Jew, but looking like a Moroccan" who mostly just loves black women with big asses, like that's his whole character. We also watched movies in Dutch and that was always just super funny. But to be honest, I kinda like Dutch, it sounds really cute.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Dutch is like the French of the Germanic languages.

[@christiansrensen5958]

I am a North German near the Dutch border. Your assessment of Dutch is (biases and jokes aside) very very accurate.

[@SynesthesiaBoy]

English is 3 languages disguising itself as one

[@harborwolf22]

I was today years old when I learned that 'Romantic language' refers to it's relation to Rome...

[@wyverncrow8919]

While the new law is an improvement in some aspects it is heavily criticized by trans rights organisation as it has unnecessary, discriminatory parts that put trans women under general suspicion, it has a clause that trans women won't be able to change their gender if Germany is in a state of war or if they changed it shortly before that, there's a stupid waiting time, some aspects are worse than before for example intersex people have to use this law now which makes it worse for them, and the most important and scary thing in my opinion is that the police and a lot of other institutions will now be notified that you're trans and though they say this Information will be deleted right afterwards that won't stop the right wingers and outright nazis who have infected the police from making their own lists on Telegram or something. And lists don't end well.

[@halfghostcoffee8635]

omg finally. Im a german trans person, and before id literally have had to show in court to change my name, so far i havent gotten around to do it bc its literally such a long, annoying and quite honestly painful proccess. so like, thank god.