Gestalt Kainé and Tyrann - NieR Lore

We're back at it again with that NieR drama CD. This time we're gonna be talking about Gestalt Kaine. NOT Replicant Kaine, which is the Kaine in game. This is Kaine from before the whole... Well, y'know. Also Tyrann shows up. You didn't think we were gonna leave him out of this did you? Anyways, hope you enjoy this one. Drop a sub or let me know if you liked it!
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[@tormont101]

Babe wake up, there’s a new BrandoSP video

[@Saltytomatoe]

Okay daddy

[@rhymenoceros3303]

The more I learn about Nier's lore, the more and more I love the games and I already adore them. Great work as always.

[@AegisKHAOS]

Having heard the drama CD myself, it was funny hearing a version of Kaine that was proper and polite. Also funny that the gestalt versions of the main cast managed to meet each other somehow. And I don't know how a beserk Emil work either, so spinning Emil seems about right.

[@FatToDaCat]

Haha, I just picture Emil spinning around in circles staring at people as they turn into statues. Going off my memory, there's no beam or anything crazy looking that comes from Emils eyes when he petrifies people. So yeah, just Emil looking at people as they scream while turning to stone is a funny image

[@solracstormhunter3023]

​@@FatToDaCatI imagine him losing control like Cyclops from X-Men, or Billy Butcher getting superpowers for the first time in season 3 of The Boys: Just Magic Beam Gaze all over the place. 😅

[@WinstonHofler]

The fact there’s so much lore and other media to Nier shows how much there is to the themes and meaning of the games. The best though is how Drakengard and Nier are set in the same timeline/universe, because some of those connections and similarities is just mindmelting. Given the art style of Isle of Cards, I’m guessing it’s set around the time of Drakengard 3 or 1, but we’ll see. Also, I’m dying for Taro to do a prequel to Nier but a sequel to Drakengard 1 so we could see the beginning of WCS, the Legion war, the remains of Angelus and Caim, and the slow destruction of Japan and the world.

[@IvanLuky]

Think about this: drakengard is the sequel to nier. "this is the land of the gods?" at ending E in drakengard makes a lot of sense if they travel back in time instead to another dimension, because it is actually the land of their gods, and pacts might be an evolution of yorha black boxes 🤔

[@brotbrotsen1100]

@@IvanLuky I thinks it's kind of a Meta narrative. They traveled to what we would perceive as the real world, the people who created the game live here and are therefore their gods

[@AngraMainiiu]

@K.O.G.Fanstarks1610 Nier actually branched ever since D2 ending C as there are no more god nor dragons but it then got affected by D1 ending E.

[@beto8493]

An anime explaining all the Nier's lore and link with Drakengard will be a great idea. Great video!

[@DGP406]

it would be just a 5 hour long text dump like Xenogear's CD2.

[@dantecrailman8861]

What's interesting is that Tyrann actually came from Nero's bloodline.

[@Man-mc7ln]

I love these videos, I never knew the characters had actually met before the main story, and I had no idea that red eye was killed inside the mansion nor that it was kaine who killed him.

[@nayday_]

Brando, thank you so so sooooo much for sharing all the lore info from sources which would not be normally accessible to English speaking fans like me, and thousands of others. I hope you'll always remember that there are people out there who truly see and appreciate the effort that you put into your videos. THANK YOU.

[@KAMI__KITSUNEE]

^ this

[@_Rndom]

Stumbled upon your channel around a week ago, right after I got every ending besides E in replicant. You make amazing videos and it's a shame you only have 12K subs

[@ThBrando]

Glad you like them!

[@lightningwarrior7071]

They can make a whole new game using that audio novel's script. That plot, sometimes, is even better than Nier Replicant's main story. Right now, with the wider fanbase achieved by Automata, this can happen if Square-Enix helps.

[@elizabethallison5756]

Yeah, what this guy said ^^. Square Enix should get on the whole prequel thing. If it worked for Drakengard, it can work for Nier.

[@hm02fly75]

There is like a solid 3+ games worth of content between all of the "side" Nier/Drakenguard related content. I don't know of another series that is like this.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

Nier potentially could be one of squares bigger franchises behind Final fantasy and the like

[@omega0075]

It's really nice to hear about the things lost in translation. Already looking forward to your next video!

[@TheLyncher]

I appreciate all that you do, and believe it or not it was your lore explanation videos that made me go back and actually finish the games! I never really gave them a chance before but thanks to how you present them and let the viewer know whats happening, well you made a new fan of both the franchise as well as yourself my friend. Here's to 10,000 more!

[@NieR.Amanda]

Really love this *before they were famous/infamous* Nier backstory material. Shame that Drama CDs were never a thing over here, but at least I have my Jun Eishima/Yoko Taro books from Square Enix and Viz Media, and the two over-sized hardcover guide books from Square Enix, covering the Automata side of things. If anybody can point me towards anything similar covering Nier Gestalt/Replicant and Drakengard, I could add those to my lore library. Yes, I like books. EDIT: We know now from Nier Replicant 1.22 that replicant Kaine is a *singularity* but nothing directly indicates whether her pre-Gestaltization form had those properties... unless the fact that all the main characters from later, gathering together in this Audio CD, counts as some kind of timeline *bookmark* being placed on them.

[@rebeccadagwood3871]

It’s been 9 months my friend. I think it may be time to give birth to that new Nier content you’ve been gestating.

[@rednightmare9887]

More in love with the lore and the series awesome work as always

[@anthonyguerrero4612]

Thanks for all the great content Brando really appreciate it. This important yet incredibly inaccessible Nier lore fills my soul with light.

[@ThBrando]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@Reoooooooooooooooooooooo]

I restrained myself from watching any Nier story videos until I finished both Automata and OG Nier. I finished Replicant in a week after they lifted Denuvo and can finally watch all those videos connecting two of my most favourite games of all time; and it only gets better.

[@JackkChaos]

Absolutely love your videos. Keep doing your thing, you’re killing it!

[@mranthony_dop]

love the work you put into these videos. been enjoying them a lot. Nier has fast become one of , if not my favourite franchise, and these are so great to delve into the backstory of everything.

[@LavenderViolet00]

I love your DrakenNeir lore videos so much! I'm obsessed with the DrakenNeir series I love learning about the universe and deep diving into it.

[@Aisubun]

7:59 That... makes a lot more sense than how it was translated lmao. I never got why he wanted them to call him Grimoire Weiss and not just Weiss

[@huismands]

Would love a video about Accord: she's mentioned in both Automata and Replicant. I'm just super curious what her end goal is...

[@leonardo2096]

Bro your videos are so good, i really enjoy watching ur nier lore videos! :)

[@ThBrando]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Ancestralsword8]

Shades are human and that STILL shatters me. We got extincted guys :(

[@timbuckley321]

Thanks for making these bro

[@acyned8079]

Love your videos on NieR! I really like that you talk about all the lore. I found out about Automata a long time ago and my first dip into the franchise was back when I was 12 or so, I played NieR Gestalt on the Wii for a bit. So later on when I found Automata I watched Valkyrie Aurora's videos on the game since I couldn't buy it. All your work really helps me feel like I've experienced the game and the lore is really interesting, not to mention the great soundtrack! Thank you.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

Wait, it was on wii?

[@Honour_Knight]

Another fine video ! keep up the good work.

[@ahmedsultani3028]

Thank you for the superb content. And congratulations on the 10k mark. You deserve a hundred times more.

[@ThBrando]

Big appreciate

[@iqjump123]

Just want to mention that even though you talked a lot about nier in general… please do more haha. I love that content

[@matsukuia7140]

Always good to see your videos bro

[@ThBrando]

Glad you like them!

[@KashouWannabe]

I played Automata back in 2017 which was my first entry in the series. I was aware of this but waited 'til Ending E before looking into the history of the franchise and its lore. I have just started Route C of Replicant and the extra insight Route B gave Kaine was cool, but raised a question: Is it just her current Replicant body that had the ... erm.. "issue", or are all her Replicants sporting extra... "baggage"? Skimmed some of the stories relating to her and knew she was a sort of a clone from her Granparents even as a human, but had no idea that she had interacted with the cast back before the nukings of Honshu. Sort of like "meeting each other again in the afterlife".

[@Alexander_Grant]

She is intersex in game due to an error recreating her replicant.

[@KashouWannabe]

@@Alexander_Grant Well duh. That doesn't answer the question, does it. Is it all of the Replicant bodies, or just her current one was the question.

[@Alexander_Grant]

@@KashouWannabe Figured that's what you were asking since we don't know anything about the previous replicants for any of the other characters.

[@NoahIsNeon]

I love your content keep up the great work

[@ThBrando]

Thanks, will do!

[@souit957]

In all Honesty all of your latest videos have been bangers. Hopefully you reach 20k soon !

[@ThBrando]

Appreciate that

[@lachendesgras]

I love ur content. Didn't find something that explain this Japanese stuff, in such a easy way. Greetings from Germany 😁

[@Noti3]

Great video, keep it up!

[@Tael98]

Love this channel

[@RigalicReign]

You know I was expecting the Grandmother to kill the dog... I blame Jojo for this

[@twokharacters]

Freakin' love you Brando.

[@indinijarvu3864]

Another interesting video, thanks 🙏 On a side note, where did you find the desert theme track from Nier Automata? I've looked for it, but can only find the vocalized version.

[@boxxylegoplaymobil8906]

fuck yes dude thank you so much, i just found out about this audio drama with the remaster and couldnt find a good translation for it anywhere, godbless

[@a.b.s.anonymousbastardofso9459]

@BrandoSP I know you already covered NieR Reincarnation chapter's 1-12, but I am curious if you would consider a video talking about Fio and what she did in the first half of the story. I found out that if you do the story again on hard and very hard there's more scenarios you get.

[@JL0ndon]

I knew turning on that bell would be worth it

[@ThBrando]

Ring ring, It's Drama CD time

[@cinnamonbagel1230]

As soon as you said that, Homer popped in my head!!! 😂

[@Ultra04channel]

Haven't watched all the way through the video yet, but I guarantee this will probably answer some of the questions I have about Kaine. One of which being, why did everyone hate her? She seems normal enough to me, minus Tyrann, and that was before the shade showed up, so it doesn't really make sense to me. Hopefully I'll get some answers here. Edit: I think it answered my question? I'm guessing it's that Legion stuff in her that causes everyone in the Aerie to not trust, or despise her.

[@mountainhorse9419]

The short stories also explicitly address that Kaine is hermaphroditic / has a penis which freaks out the other villagers. That's also why the kids say she's only "pretending" to be a girl and why the grandma emphasizing that she's pretty and her granddaughter was so meaningful! Sorry if you already knew that, but it never addresses it directly in the games so I thought you might not!

[@edwardvermillion8807]

@@mountainhorse9419 i've only just finished replicant in the last couple of weeks and was wondering if that's what was alluded to in the game. it really seemed like it, but wasn't ever stated specifically what her 'differences' were. thanks for the info.

[@rolotv2727]

NEW BRANDO VIDEOOOO

[@VannTheDawn]

As much as I love Yoko Taro and his games. He’s treating Nier like Square treats Kingdom Hearts and that I don’t like. He’s dropping important bits of lore in stage plays, audiobooks, artbooks, mobile games, etc.. Then when a new game comes out, you’d be confused as to how the story turned out this way, all because you didn’t watch his stage plays.

[@voice-less]

He is dropping important lore pieces in other medias, but you're exaggerating, you don't need to know any of these lore pieces to understand what's going on in the games and to understand them and the point they're trying to get across. In Nier Replicant/Gestalt, you don't even need to play drakengars to understand it, sure you may not know what the dragon or the queen beast are, but you don't need to know that to understand everything that came after that and what they caused that was relevant to the game. Similarly in Automata, you don't need to play Replicant/Gestalt to understand, you have a summary of what caused the events in Automata to take place in the game already. These lore pieces are only important to nerds who want to know every single detail there is about the Nier/drakengard universes, but at no point will you be confused in these games even if you didn't play they're prequels.

[@nataliecameron]

You don't *need* to know any of these bits of extraneous lore, unlike kingdom hearts

[@acecujoh]

i feel like if you look hard enough you can learn something new about nier everyday

[@justanotherchannl]

The contrast of both Kaine's voices, haha.

[@F66x]

Yonah is Hebrew! It's the female version of Jonah and means dove.

[@saramations]

Mr. Taro loves his bird themes.

[@sekkuar]

Ah yes, perfectly placed insert of the Chaos guy

[@mynameisozymandias7150]

Tyrann reminds me of Clarence from Penumbra: Black Plague.

[@n0ctiz456]

Basically Kainé was the sephiroth of NieR

[@sethkarma2072]

The appeal of a drama CD is very similar to listening to a youtuber go over a plot of something, it can be nice to listen to while traveling, doing stuff around the house etc.

[@bryce7344]

ooooooo something I know (a little bit) because I saw the drama cd on youtube

[@bryce7344]

Yeah I knew all of this, neat

[@Joemama-jh5go]

Please do a video on Devola and Popola next

[@kevinabbottlane1814]

As a fan of the Drakengard, Nier series I wish the drama city was like DLC to replicate imagine it footage from "Sky of the end" to "I promise of 1,000 years" the last two chapters sure that could be caused DLC and we can see the aliens leading into automata.

[@lolrus5555]

Tyrann is such an asshole and I fucking love him XD The fact that he's a descendant of _Nero_ from the dark as hell Drakengard 3 manga makes it even better, partly because of how fitting it is, and partly because it cements the fact that the NieR and Drakengard worlds aren't separate universes, but instead the same world looping in on itself.

[@onbonable]

I wonder if that dog is the same shade you fight.

[@ghostly_number]

One of my question is where kaine shade at. We see shadowlord, yonahs in her own body but never kaines

[@Gentlemenpickleesq.]

After this context and playing the game anyone else getting Charles Lee Ray vibes from Tyrann?

[@cycloneofsouls]

oh shit, you covering the sinoalice connections?

[@SebiPoet]

when gestalt kaine started talking i did a double take

[@KAMI__KITSUNEE]

Sorry if uve mentioned this somewhere before but you said that kainé's grandmother was eaten by red eye, i thought red eye was the guy in drakengard or the disease which made people into legion. Was red eye an entity? And if yeah who or what is red eye? P.s idm spoilers, ive played both games entirely so im just filling in the gaps of stuff ive missed

[@ThBrando]

Mostly speak about it in my "Everything before NieR" video, red eye was the "leader" of the legion, but it wasn't a single entity. "Red Eye Disease" is the affliction from Drakengard, but it doesn't have much to do with "Red Eye" the being. There's a fan theory that Caim is Red Eye, but theres not much to back it up.

[@KAMI__KITSUNEE]

@@ThBrando aahhh brain juices flowing again, thank you for the reply, very much appreciated ty brandoSP! :D

[@guadaluperodriguez8365]

I hope they make a DlC Prequel. If they did I really want to play

[@straymerodach4713]

so 63 was the correct answer to Sleeping Beauty`s question all along.

[@lijew]

will you ever do a video on the Nier Raids in FFXIV?

[@NieR.Amanda]

The story arc built around those raids is also known as YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse, and has some *interesting* guest characters. I quite like the way they fit various concepts together there... I won't spoil anything, but IMHO it is one of the best collabs I have ever seen involving Yoko Taro's works.

[@lijew]

@@NieR.Amanda oh I've already played it, but I'd love more insight on things I mightve missed

[@ThBrando]

It'd definitely be a big commitment. I'd have to grind up a character then play the raids, which would definitely take a lot of time. I was sure someone had already made videos on the subject, but a lot of people saying there aren't any? IDK. I'm not saying I'll never do it, and I also don't wanna say stuff like "When XX number of people subscribe!" or "When this video gets XX likes!" because it's not about that. I've always got it in the back of my mind, I'm just saying right now I don't have concrete plans for it.

[@NieR.Amanda]

@@ThBrando You could try hungrychad's channel. FFXIV Shadowbringers Episodes 52-60, 74-78, 87-93 for a *long* version of the story arc.

[@acoruna5421]

No one talks about Nier: Replicant's music.

[@mytylest8283]

As soon as he stopped talking about Sector B24 for the first time I got a Burger King ad. Tyrann went to Burger King. What's he gonna order

[@venobladebionicles6228]

BRANDO. WE NEED YOU. WE NEED YOU TO TELL US ABOUT THE CHURCH Unless you don't want to. It really is up to you.

[@ligesora7115]

M still confused if the emil we meet in nier replicant is a replicant or a real human cuz if he was a replicant how did he have the memories of his sister of the time when he was a real human and the experiments done on him.

[@dantecrailman8861]

Emil is the only legit human in Replicant.

[@rush9800]

It it hit skins

[@minnienish]

Wait, I'm confused. When you say "Gestalt Kainé," do you mean human Kainé, or literally the ghost shade soul thing that was separated from Replicant Kainé? I'm asking because this drama CD might've just deconfirmed the theory that A2's memories were based on human Kainé's, which is kind of a bummer. IIRC A2's memories were of a human girl that lived on a farm in the countryside with her grandmother.

[@dantecrailman8861]

That's human Kaine

[@LarryVanVlack]

Please do a video on the nier automata secret door!!!

[@nataliecameron]

It was a mod

[@disturbedrebirth]

I wonder what happened to Gestalt Kaine. We know about all the others, but not her.

[@Zargabaath]

"Shitpurse" what a fucking insult.

[@Tom-sj3vn]

Where’s the next video

[@milkee7748]

The one dislike in this video is from Kainé's grandma

[@averagesoul8256]

nier is just the best . but more importantly right now .Voice of cards launches in 3 days

[@aureusnovasolis208]

WHADDAYA MEAN "THE *FIRST* REDEYE"???

[@rahvlanthal8583]

Sooooo an SCP branch.

[@disturbedrebirth]

This audio book never made sense to me. After all Gestalt Kaine and Gestalt Nier are different people than their replicants.

[@gintori5329]

are u gonna talk about the weird new nier reincarnation stuff

[@ThBrando]

Like new or new new? I have a full summary of the NieR Reincarnation story video up. Still working through the new story that came out 5 days ago.

[@gintori5329]

@@ThBrando yeaa that thanks

[@kennyquesoenjoyer9176]

Ñ

[@e-z-o-e]

i prefer gastalt kaine fight me

[@nataliecameron]

Bad taste

[@mitsuri3096]

He's annoy9ng