Get Good for Christmas 4 : Addons

[@badassoverlordzetta]

Ho Ho HOLLLA BALLLAAAAAS You missed the opportunity....

[@smilezor]

now i want a video of preach just comparing people on meters

[@quadrata8382]

I AM STILL WONDERING AFTER SEVERAL YEARS WHAT THE MUSIC IS IN THE BACKGROUND

[@lokoloko9494]

Im pretty sure its from final fantasy tactics advanced for the gba

[@quadrata8382]

Just looked through the soundtrack, nope, nothing.

[@quadrata8382]

Also i'm talking about the music in the beginning of the video

[@khellandroes]

May be wrong but sounds like music from banjo kazooie/banjo tooie Nintendo 64 games

[@quadrata8382]

It doesn't sound like any of the banjo games, it sounds more like some 90's fantasy game on the pc

[@brennengray2503]

These videos are great. Keep up the good work. Def helping me improve.

[@BerryDoobmie]

Thanks for challenging us (me) to adapt my UI, I didn't use yours but I made some substantial changes using the same concepts and I love it!

[@Sacco26]

Thanks for this series Preach, I found IceHud and am loving it. Spent hours making a custom set up for my rogue and after finally getting my new keybinds into my muscle memory, I'm seeing great results. I do a lot of pvp and this is helping massively

[@kloaf1131]

One thing for people using WAs. If you find one that tracks everything you want. You can download the custom weakauras and move them and resize them as you see fit. Just keep in mind if you have 3 settings for each ability(some don't) you'll have to move and resize all three and this can take some time to get just right or right enough to work. The three by the way which some may one to get rid of some is (active, on cooldown, ready)

[@adrianbozdog9702]

A good way to start using addons if you are used to your character is to hide your actionbar ( I hid mine in DPS spec too) and it's much easier on my eyes and it forces me to look at the center of my screen

[@B4K4157]

"If it won't affect a decision, don't track it" Preach, I've been saying this for years! I've seen people who track trauma, of all things (Look it up, it's an arms talent).

[@zegetable]

That meter breakdown was great, ty!

[@whiskeySe7en]

Compliments from Canada, thanks for the vids Mike.

[@truetype80]

wheres the 1 min video about zooming the camera all the way out lol

[@Flourish38]

tbh

[@Narcwow]

Next day..... zoom out for rank 1 logs

[@pldcanfly]

or you don't because sometimes is is not really important to see whats happening to person x on the other end of the room, and i'd be better to see whats happening next to you with not having the information overflow of seeing everything. I'm talking from a melee perspective here, with all the effect overload and clusterfuck it is there, where it's reasonably hard to see stuff when you are zoomed out to much.

[@cal6599]

more time during christmas..... minus people who work in retail

[@harold926]

and restaurants

[@suisiders7181]

and security

[@Konuvis]

I feel you mate.

[@watchthe1369]

Airplane pilots talk about scan patterns and instrument setup all the time. Change out an instrument and relocate it, the information availability and scan pattern changes. Plug in a new system/instrument and things will change. Primary versus Secondary information is important as well, prioritize.

[@EricJon]

Best Series ever!

[@hoenn1999]

I always keep my damage meter hidden during the fight so that i don't get distracted looking at it. Once the fight is over (or if I die) I'll look at the data, but keeping it hidden helps me focus more.

[@Snicker433]

I just use Action Cam to pan my camera up, so my character is closer to the bottom of the screen. Then I can see more of the boss, not just his feet, and my character is closer to the action bars.

[@helpmeinburning]

It doesnt make sense to me to hide cooldowns because it reduces you ability to plan ahead

[@darkinin]

I can remember when I made the switch to keybinds in TBC. Man, it was driving me crazy, and people noticed it in my DPS that night.

[@_tom_8907]

I was one of those "look at the bottom of the screen" dps. For 8 years. It took me a week to figure out your TMW setup was optimal. Which is odd, since I played TMW style in FF14 (without the addon, of course). Now all I gotta do is figure out WA to track my insanity, and I'll be good.

[@Gcrab71989]

I'm finishing off this expansion as LFR hero, so I just use details to measure my epeen

[@GamingNormaly]

The small thing on the soak.... what about immunities?

[@fraudless1846]

You dont use immunities on small soaks though do you?

[@subaveragejoe2]

no one uses immunities in lfr

[@GamingNormaly]

Plenty do as tanks has began soaking the big ones more and more.

[@GamingNormaly]

That might be true.

[@chruemmel9596]

A classic case of Crummyprick

[@Lapouchy]

The most important stuff about UI and Addons for me has alwats been: never double-down on the same information. If my debuffs show above my unit frame, I don't need to see the same debuffs in the corner. If my remaining Bloodlust duration shows off around my character, I will blacklist it on aura buff bars above my unit frames. If my skill shows up as a weakaura/tmw in combat for me, I put the keybind for it on a separate bar which dissapears the moment I get into combat. I don't need to see my filler spell, too. If I configure the UI to never show me the same data twice, I can use the saved space to track other stuff or just reduce the clutter. For a class with 30+ keybinds, I can reduce amounts of skills and items visible on my bars to 10 total. Merry Christmas everybody.

[@Azortharion]

Of course you can use your cooldowns based on Concordance procs. You generally know ahead of time how many Combustions/Trueshots/whatever you will get off during that fight. For this reason, you also know roughly how much you can potentially delay a cooldown and still not lose any casts. This window of time where you can safely delay is a grace period of sorts where you can absolutely wait for a Concordance proc or something else to happen that will amplify your cooldown. Failing that, at the very last Combustion/whatever of the fight, chances are you won't have to use it absolutely on CD to get it all done before the boss dies. That's another grace period where you can wait for a Concordance or whatever else proc. Hunters do it all the time and it's a big part of maximizing DPS, and there's no reason it should be any different for Mages or anything else that I can see.

[@Zasaramel]

Yes there will be a few times here and there where you can min-max the cooldown timings for certain abilities to potentially line up with a concordance proc. But since the number of procs per fight and the times when they do go off aren't going to line up with any level of regularity. So there are some potential god pulls you can reach if you track it and can effectively make use of it, but due to the low odds of getting it consistently its just not worth the minimal gain you'll get for those few god pulls where it lines up.

[@Azortharion]

Concordance proc uptime is pretty high, man. Like well over 30%+, so it's not like Concordance procs occur "once in a blue moon". You can't expect or predict them, but you can sit on a cooldown for 10-20 seconds in hopes of getting one. If you don't get one within your "grace period", you just pop your cooldown and thats it, you didn't get lucky, but you didn't lose anything by delaying because you did not lose a cast. The gain is substantial (10k+ mainstat plus whatever NLC traits you may have like Shocklight/Murderous Intent is a lot), and the loss is non-existent if you don't lose a cast anyway. Doesn't take a God pull at all. At worst it just takes "slightly above average luck".

[@dudebrah7791]

This is something that is dependent on spec. Fire mages in particular actually don't want to try to align procs with combustion, at least when using the Kindling talent, which decreases the CD of combustion when you get a critical strike with certain abilities. This is because of a couple of factors: * Kindling pushes the CD of combustion down to the 1:20 - 1:30 range, meaning that waiting more than 5-10 seconds for a proc per CD makes it very likely that you will munch a combustion at the end of the fight * The CD Reduction of Kindling isn't constant, meaning that it's hard to plan exactly when it will be up, especially later in the fight. By extension, an exact grace period doesn't exist on longer encounters, because the volatility in combustion timing approaches the same order of magnitude as the average CD length. Sure, on some 3-4 minute Heroic night fight you can do cute things with concordance, but the above two basically make concordance overlapping pointless on progression for fire. This leads us back to the whole point of the video: you have to decide, for your spec, what is worth tracking and what is not.

[@gentlemanroguefelz3493]

Preach, this has been killing me for a while now. WHAT is that buff you have that looks like a portal that lasts for days?

[@Solarithia]

GentlemanRogue Felz its a Vantus Rune for one of the bosses in the raid. They apply to one specific boss and give you a versatility buff for the week. So if your guild is progressing on mythic Argus for example, everyone might use a Vantus Rune on Wednesday to give them a boost on a boss they're most likely going to be trying to kill for a week :)

[@Pepperpotk]

Loving this series

[@Nimicry]

Preach wearing a Preach Gaming Shirt... Preachception!

[@shanemergy7935]

another great video!! great job here, i have played wow for over 13 years and never have really used Addons exactly what you stated at the beginning, i wasnt sure how to use. your other UI video i downloaded and have played around more and more and honestly i am not sure why i had never used custom UI's, I hate that wth the default UI i cant move my bars around.

[@SigFrid1985]

@Preach Gaming Hi there, any possibility of you making a video about TellMewhen configuration, please?? (I know I could google/youtube it, but your explanations are very good)

[@TheFirstGreenblizard]

About Keybindings. Can i keybind everything to my Naga ? I have been doing that for years and i love it ! 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9 and then Ctrl and Shift 1.2.3... Tought's

[@LordFakeGodz]

yeah sure go ahead if you're comfortable with it and help you with rotation. Keybinding is extremely personal.

[@bartoszbartosiewicz1123]

You are probably fine but from my expirience its better to put abilites you are going to spam alot on keyboard. Especialy for some faster specs like fury warrior where you are pressing you three buttons really often and quickly it gets messy after some time doing it only with thumb.

[@kloaf1131]

I would disagree. I had no issues with the fury warrior rotation on my scimitar. It's actually in my opinion preferable. What I really need to do honestly tho is key bind my main abilities to something other than 123456. That way those keys are freed up but I have had occasions that saved me because sometimes the software for my mouse decides it wants to not use my custom preset and goes to a weird one. Then I had to switch to keypad buttons to make the transition seamlessly.

[@MrMegaman1995]

whats the addon or weakaura at 4:24 above preach's healthbar?

[@steelzeppelin]

What about DKS soakingwith AMS? better to look at times hit imo

[@subaveragejoe2]

what dks? there weren't any dks. and no one is using AMS in LFR.

[@theStamax]

More preach content is always welcome :)!

[@terza3003]

what's the sword tmog?

[@pccloud9657]

I started actually using addons when your first UI vid came out and except for Elvui I am pretty happy with all of them. I just can't deal with how clinical Elvui looks. I also really like the basic WoW artsyle so I tried to keep as much of it in like Bags or Minimap.

[@Piisuke]

There's different UIs that have a more Blizzard like feel if that is something you prefer more. Wowinterface is a pretty good website to look for other UIs. The important thing to take away from this is to understand that you have options for other UIs.

[@sheamusw5139]

You can customize Elvui to your own needs. There are different fonts, artwork, and plugins you can use to make it your own. You can turn the Blizz art work back on if youd like, and add pictures to the unit frames. There are Elvui addons in the addon market that will plugin additional customization features. Most people who use and like Elvui are looking for that minimalist feel.

[@goran77ish]

Mike, why you keep information abut time warp? It is long ass CD and it is used once in a fight in most cases. If for dungeons I'm sure you can keep checking debuff while moving from pack to pack.

[@Arishmael]

Stormrage lets say he’s in a dungeon, he wont have it up every bossfight. He might want to know what fights its up for, if its ready for use when it needs to be etc

[@goran77ish]

He can glance that over as any other long cooldown. Even he says that during video for iceblock. It is fine and I get it why people use it. I guess it is what you want to track. Utility spell like ice block is not used to the max as TW is, so it is not needed to track at middle of the screen. Like when you play ret, you want wings tracking for sure but BoP you don't really need.

[@ThePwnnz]

But Preach... What is the addon in the corner?

[@YepX]

I know how to change my UI and am not overwhelmed, it's just I don't like the asthetic. And I personally have severe memory issues and the default UI helps me maintain consistency.

[@esweteswet1072]

Don't even start on healers... *healing through one shot mechanics nightmares incoming*

[@sunwalkeredaaga4154]

What do you suggest for someone who doesn’t process visual information well? I don’t find weakauras terribly useful because the icon will pop up but I have no idea what spell it is. I don’t remember the spells by their icons. All my procs have a sonic component, so I never look at my bars. But I do not feel like I play optimally. I think I forget spells that could be useful.

[@AwkwardSquirtles]

I think you may be able to add spell effects using weakauras or tell me when. I think there's also an element of just getting used to what stuff looks like, or even simply where it is on the screen. Perhaps arranging stuff spatially would help you; place your icons where that keybind is on your keyboard?

[@dagorren]

I'm getting triggered by the damage meter not all the way to the right >:(

[@Jaggedblades]

Preach, what add-on/weak aura do you use to put your DK runes on the target's name plate?

[@darktemps]

how do you do custom bookmarks on details

[@Enigmafury]

IT'S JUST A GAME BRO! CHILL OUT - ELITIST. /sarcasm

[@hoboswagginz4782]

its fine to be good at a game u pay monthly for

[@rickert7997]

(/SARCASM)

[@Henning161]

But DBM ruinds muh immersion

[@mikkobergmann8365]

Anyone know the name of the 1h he's transmogged?

[@robh316]

Preach help man how the hell do you get back in to your spell book and journal it's no where on your ui anybody?

[@facufritzler7957]

The keybinds are per user, so you will have the same keybinds you always had even with preach's ui. That said if you were used to click them the keybinds are (only if you didn't changed them): Spellbook = P Journal = Shift + J Mounts, pets, transmog, heirlooms = Shift + P Bags = B Character Info = C

[@robh316]

Facu Fritzler cheers it's all sorted now press mouse wheel on the mini map brings all the options up

[@tylergoodrich1223]

in his mouth there is no light, only darkness. 0:00

[@damo4293]

tyler goodrich edgy

[@MARK0V]

Thanks for this, this was a helpful update the previous video. Would you recommend wowanalyser to look at peoples logs?

[@Enigmafury]

serious question...is details more heavy on performance that skada? I know recount used to be

[@MrChoas966]

It is slightly, but it does still use fewer resources than DBM or weakauras for me

[@facufritzler7957]

Enigmafury it depends on the settings, you can set it up to give you info at a lower pace to use fewer resources, or if you don't care about that, you can set it to update every 0.1 seconds

[@stevekay90]

Details is heavier on performance but it's much better than skada, and more accurate.

[@pheroe5303]

Enigmafury I haven’t seen a massive difference between details and Skada, I prefer skada’s layout so I’ve just stuck with it.

[@Piisuke]

Some guy on the forums posted a while ago where he compared addons and how much they use. His conclusion was that Details uses less than Skada. I'd say they're about the same level. Skada is good, Details is just preferred these days. Don't worry about Recount. It is bad anyway.

[@RyanCogar]

In regards to what is said around 17:50 with logs I feel similar with wowprogress atm in m+ like all 7.2 i ran a +10 every week without fail easy no problem. Since 7.3 i have been yet able to even join a 15 group yet managing to complete 3 or 4 +14's with ease. Simply because I don't have time to do a 10-15+ run of every dungeon to up my score and prefer certain dungeons at higher level keys means that 15 still alludes me. My ilvl is ranging between 948-953 fire mage. Point being my score is pretty garbage even though i've probably completed well over 50 or so 10-14 M+ runs just not in many different instances but obviously these are the ones I try to join. I wish people would actually look at your runs in said dungeon and previous seasons not just "x amount k score or don't bother"

[@Zasaramel]

The only real solution is to find a group of guildies/friends that you can run them with for the weekly. Since you've reached the 950 item level range I am assuming you are at least doing relevant PvE content as it is, shouldn't be too hard to find 4 people capable/willing to do a key with you each week.

[@KeisteSnipes36]

Chaos cleave in T21 does more single target dmg than First Blood with t21. If you have t20 then you take First blood.

[@gkninjaable]

any1 know a good addon for the coldowns in the middle of the screen i have watched the video like five times and he dident recoment any so i was wondering if youtube comments can help

[@Woddell1]

gkninjaable he talks about it in his UI video I'm sure but it's TellMeWhen

[@sheamusw5139]

You can do TellMeWhen, or weakauras. If you are looking for encounter cooldowns and timers open the configuration on your boss mod (DBM or BigWigs) and move the timers to where youd prefer them for your ease of use.

[@thegrumpywarlock]

Hope the pup is ok!

[@grimmreaper9005]

I downloaded your ui from that vid u posted... it works fine, I just had to get used to using the keybinds to open like the group finder and collections menu XD

[@TheMightySpeckyNerd]

Grimmreaper114 you can enable the micro menu in the action bars section of Elvui and then use /moveui in order to move it to your preference.

[@grimmreaper9005]

good to know XD

[@zali500]

Hey Preach! First, Merry christmas, second : a question. I'm playing a druid, manely dps. I really like feral, but my guild officer told me to play balance cus there is no more space for melee dps in the raid. But i don't like bala... What should i do? Play bala even when i don't like it? Ors should i leave raiding, or leave the guild? Thank you for the answer.

[@zali500]

Thanks mate :)

[@StarCitizenIrish]

Preach you are triggering me, fix the tv on the right, ITS NOT LEVEL lol

[@hubeargreat7212]

The only thing I still don't agree on is changing from standard UI. You can move the important shit to the middle. Which you should. There's nothing wrong with raid frames. They've improved standard so much from what it used to be. I'm getting the vibe that you guys are so used to elvUI or bartender that you are now "in your comfort zone" so to speak with those UIs.

[@ae86manny]

Good info

[@arob210]

Rogue overview...

[@serge2cool]

Lol 'Durotan looks to be reasonably geared'. He's such a noob, his brother was better geared, kappa.

[@ynatanel101]

Can anyone link me to a video on how to set up preach's FIREBLAST WA as 3 triggers. It has count, once he used them all it disappears and few seconds before it comes up it shows the remaining cool down.

[@necronavenger]

Do you use tmw?

[@Zasaramel]

I think those are TellMeWhen notifications, not weakauras.

[@nicolaisb2]

You are the man

[@etforde]

I see I need to start using details over skada..

[@vladd2727]

You Lie Preach YOU ARE HERE TO LIE TO ME..I KNOW IT ....You cant fool me ...nope nope

[@FunnyDougy]

Who are you trying to reach? They like feeling like effort is optional and you can't change it.

[@Johndoe-gd4tb]

FunnyDougy he's reached me over the past year and I've improved dramatically. There's no way I'm the only one

[@Magicmano123]

RiP tracking stuff like concord for snapshots. Bring it back blizz please.......

[@heavydutymanofcabbage6915]

0161 manny on the map

[@RobzdaBlade]

Is having an ass chin considered a blessing, or a curse? EDIT: Won't lie it probably drives the ladies wild.

[@sethwilliamson]

On the topic of info overload, the best advice I've gotten was hide UI (alt-z) for a bit and go play. Make note of things you *needed* to see, but don't have. (Thanks WTBGold for that tip!) I'd argue that the least reasonable use-case for in-game meters is for a DPS role. Raid leaders might make in-combat calls based on it. Tanks might use it to get a feel for good pull size. Healers might triage with it. DPS... not like you're gonna change up your rotation mid-fight. For all of that out of combat analysis you demonstrated, I prefer warcraftlogs. (Again, like you point out, you have to learn how to use it too.) When it comes to self-analysis, rather than being limited to comparisons with people in the same raid, you can compare yourself against everyone who has submitted logs. If you have a second monitor or even a tablet or laptop or whatever, you can have near real time logging in warcraftlogs sitting right beside you if you like. I'm a bit biased though. I have a strong aversion to having non-actionable UI elements in my game window. By that I mean if it isn't telling me something I need to react to, I don't want it in my face. Signal-to-noise ratio and all that.

[@scribble101]

I do appreciate this video and what you are trying to do, but if they are aimed at people who are new and don't have these addons installed like myself, then before telling people what they do and what they should track etc.. I think it would be more helpful in teaching them how to set them up, with out relying on your UI. I tend to find you loose me after a while as you start waffling and rushing through things e.g you're going from damage done to damage taken to book marks and not once explaining what your clicking on to do this or how to get back to the original screen. Please take your time and actually explain.

[@WhiiteMexiican]

There are many other videos on how to download addons though, that's not what is important here. But, you want to download an addon provider like the curse client and download the addons from there to be exported to your game.

[@Zasaramel]

I mean, the only addon that should be somewhat challenging to figure out would be weak auras/tellmewhen considering the hundreds of things you can track and all the numerous ways you could choose to track them. That video alone could take an hour or more, not really worth the investment when there are plenty of guides out there on how to do it. DBM/Bigwigs is basically just plugging and play. When you go into the general options to find the bar placement, you can easily just move them. Nothing all that complicated. Details is plug and play as well, just going through the settings wheel to make it look the way you want, mostly self-explanatory. Anything extra ontop of those are just making it look nice, which again isn't up his alley to make a video about.

[@sheamusw5139]

That would be impossible. Addons are a personal choice so there is no one person who can tell you how to set them up. In addition to that every person uses their addons to suit them. Preach could make 100 videos on addons and still never give you the tailor set up for you. What you need to do is down load specific addons for a reason, then read through their menus and spend a few hours in the configuration to understand how they work and what you want them to do. There are videos out there for the basic set up for most addons, but you have to take the time to tailor them to you. No one can do that for you.

[@kimibimi7532]

Preach said at the beginning of the video that this was to show us how to use the addons we have installed , correctly. If you don’t have addons installed this video is not aimed at you.

[@Haxzaw]

...I just noticed you have a big scar on your chin didn't you get stitches at the time of the accident?

[@paulokas4]

can you put a coin in your chin? preferibly a euro coin since im from europe thank you

[@AwkwardSquirtles]

He's from England, we use pounds here.

[@hibiscus779]

I hate addons that are not UI related. HOW on God's green earth do you know what is going to happen? You shouldn't. It implies that SOMEONE has already killed the boss with a stopwatch in hand. This is the WoW aspect that really annoys me. Yes, I get it, that's the nature of the game, repeatable content that's supposed to be happening for the first time ever, Every Single Time. Looking forward to AI that's going to create new content every time we enter a dungeon.

[@sheamusw5139]

There are guilds out there that dont preview fights before they are released. Now if you could find one that agreed to not use boss mods for the first encounters that would be a good fit for you. You dont have to use boss mods, youll just be vastly behind someone who does.

[@windextor89]

fker ur screens are not level and its killing me inside

[@bullseye608]

I find myself staring at your chin...

[@winnietheblue3633]

but I don't use any addons and I'm a world first mythic raider stop being an elitest

[@Briansgate]

Details. turning a fun game into a chore.

[@darkdemon653]

Please don't teach people that they need boss mods.

[@hubeargreat7212]

They have timers for boss abilities, why wouldn't you want them?

[@Johndoe-gd4tb]

I'm 100% certain that boss mod haters are not currently raiding at a high level. You all act so elitist, well guess what, no matter how good your awareness is, you can't be aware of timers that don't exist without boss mods. They are something every high end guild uses, and any player worth a damn. With the state of boss mechanics in this game, your really not going to use boss mods out of sense of pride? Get the fuck out of here

[@robh316]

Downloaded your ui preach I like it but your dmg meter and bigwigs are shit changed them for recount and dbm much better

[@Piisuke]

The difference between DBM and BigWigs is that DBM tells you what you need to do, where BigWigs is telling that something has happened, or is about to. As for Recount, it is actually the worst damage meter addon. Totally inaccurate. If you do not want to use Details, then I would recommend Skada. Recount, however, it is a relic from the past. Even Skada was way better than Recount.

[@robh316]

Piisuke I disagree with you on recount easily the best dmg meter and with bigwigs it's better to know what's coming at you b4 it actually happens so that's why dbm is better just my opinion

[@Woddell1]

I don't think there's much difference between any of the addons really. I'm sure recount has similar features to Details. when it comes to BigWigs and DBM Mike has said in previous videos (his old UI video is where I heard it) that he picks BigWigs due to the fact he knows some of the developers for it. He doesn't recommend one over the other he just prefes BigWigs himself.

[@sheamusw5139]

DBM yells at you where as Bigwigs whispers at you. Its a difference of what you need. Some players need their boss mods to flash everything in front of them in an obnoxious manner so they see it and dont get tunnel vision. Others just need to see the timers and an occasional pop up without all of the flashing and sounds, and thats what Big wigs is. I prefer big wigs because I feel it taught me to pay more attention to the fight as a whole and be proactive to mechanics rather than reactive. Also Big wigs tent to be more accurately updated and tuned for brand new content. As for recount you are 100% wrong. Recount is objectively the worst damage meter addon, and has been for a few xpacs. If you compare recount to logs and other damage meters it is always off. Skada is a good lightweight alternative, but Details is easily the best damage meter.

[@Woddell1]

I prefer BigWigs. I was always a DBM user as it was the only addon my guild wanted to use at the time but now I've installed Preach's UI I've kept BigWigs. I don't know that about Recount. It's still the most popular by the looks of things and I've never been able to tell the difference. I personally use Details and have enjoyed it so far.